Is that a deleted scene? I remember Jack saying that line in the cave when lowering Desmond into the area with the light. But just rewatched the series on Hulu and he didn’t say the line.
@@Nflguy4949Sorry I’m 4 months late, but there are two versions of the finale on Hulu. One of them is a two part version that doesn’t include a few scenes, and the other version is the entire finale.
Pretty epic that even in MiB's final moments, his body was left broken at the edge of the island, but he never could fulfil his lifelong mission of getting off it.
@@Viktorreznov1942 But He never had any need to fight, he was an immortal cloud of smoke. Suddenly he is imprisoned in a mortal body again and supposed to fight like a human.
@@kylepatrickhall1426 Which honestly takes all the surgency of preventing him to get off the Island. Entire idea which Widmore was afraid of that they cant leave this thing off the island because smoke monster would be unstoppable. Hell possibly world ending threat or taking over the world threat. And then he looses all his powers so you could just let him go, because killing him only matters for justice, but there is no longer any tension of him reaching the world outside.
@@mikeinglese9631 locke was a great choice to become the new jaycob. NIB loves looking like locke because he wants to show everybody loving the island is useless.
The knife that Terry used to stab Matthew was real. They mixed up the real knife and the collapsible knife. Luckily the patch used to protect from the collapsible knife held up with the real knife. Otherwise Terry would have literally stabbed Matthew on camera.
Always thought this was a missed opportunity. When Flocke is on his knees in front of Jack he should have said: Flocke: It's too late Jack... you can't stop it. Jack: .... Don't tell me what I can't do! *kicks him off the cliff*
That was the point of it though. Locke provided both a confusing friend/foe dynamic with the MIB, making it difficult to really understand his motivation. And how terrifying a concept is it to have your enemy wearing the face of your friend? And it's not Locke's body, the monster just looks like him (Locke's actual body is buried on the beach).
I remembered the first time I saw this. I was like "Let's go Jack, kick MiB in his damn it face and finished it". But when MiB stabbed the knife into Jacks chest it felt like he also stabbed into my chest. An indescribably horrible feeling...
The only thing that would've been more epic is if after Flocke said "You're too late," he said, "You can't stop it now," and Jack replied, "Don't tell me what I can't do," before kicking him off the cliff.
The death to the real Locke was just pathetic. Everything in the show pointed to the fact that he'd be resurrected, or have some higher purpose in the finale. But nope... he just died in a dirty hotel room, delusional crazy guy duped into a suicide mission by MiB, because he was gullible and thought he was hearing mystical Island voices. Really bad writing, and a terrible shame.
@@thelavinator6343 Locke was supposed to die in a pathetic way though. He died as he lived, and it served as a marker for Jack to improve on himself as he felt like he had failed Locke. I think had Locke had some grand resurrection or epic death Jack couldn't have evolved as well and the story wouldve suffered as a result. Plus not every great character gets a great death
@@northgreen21 Mr Eko was actually originally gonna be the vessel for the man in black. Tbh I could see Locke getting Jack's death, and Jack becoming the protector of the island instead of Hurley.
I called it. At the end of season 1. I watched their conversation before they blew the hatch open, and I was like, "they are going to have an epic showdown come the last episode." Granted, I was off on a couple of things, but this was about as epic as I had pictured it being.
It would've been a lot less dramatic if Locke'd just stepped to the side when Jack jumped and let him bounce off the rocks and off the cliff, but it would've been a lot funnier
One thing that irks me so bad after rewatching this now is the same thing that Irks me now. The fact that they didn't use the volcano in this episode. Three damn years or so trying to pay attention to all the shenanigans with the thought of it in the back of my head like chekovs gun over the matlepiece. Would have been great to at least see the damn thing go off right after this. Had to google after this reliving that "But what about the volcano!" moment after the finale fight here and there are actually articles. Probably blew their wad on everything else and were running on fumes by this point but that damn gun is still hanging over the mantlepiece.
I think it was a mix of “a lava-side fist fight was too expensive to pull off convincingly on a network TV show’s VFX budget at the time” and “the idea of Jack VS MiB fighting around lava fields would get compared to the climax of Revenge of the Sith too much to be taken seriously” that killed the volcano idea, IIRC.
@@skinnysnorlax9356 This is a good Point. I was thinking more along the lines of Jack and Kate kill MIB have a moment of respite where they emotinally reconnect and everything seems to be going as planned when Boom, the tectonic shaking of the entire island finally triggers the volcano to go off. Though even with a seperation between the inciting incident of the fight and the eruption of the volcano you still might be right on the revenge of the sith parallels being drawn by the audience. Though after looking into myself, you're absolutely right on the first point, I just don't think they had the budget to pull the trigger on that gun and sell it convincingly.
I posted here once before but I thought of one more (promise just one!) gripe in that Jack should not have called him Locke. I know its probably just for convenience's sake, the guy had no real name known to anyone, but after Jack's words in the cave, "You're not John Locke. You disrespect his memory by wearing his face but you're nothing like him.", I would have liked it if he never called him Locke after that.
Even worse, I think every time the characters call him "Locke" when they know it's not Locke, it's really shitty. It's fine when they think it's the real Locke, but when they know, they should call him something else.
One thing I still wonder if MiB genuinely offered Ben a place on his boat. Sure he had to hurry because everyone was after him and he was mortal, but would he let Ben aboard if they travelled to the shore together?
the only thing i don’t like is jack and Flocke’s last words. they should’ve done something like this - same scenario and what not but as flocke is on the ground after kate shoots him, jack should come up and be like see ya later then locke is like you can’t win jack then jack says “don’t tell me what i can’t do” so things come full circle
Thanks! Hey do have the video where MIB, BEN & DESMOND found JACK, SAWYER, HURLEY & KATE started shooting MIB when he got in Jack's face b4 they went to the heart of the island!
It is crazy how the dominant cultural influences shifted more into that pure savagery. The 2000s truly is the perfect balance of realism/violence and rewarding values. Unlike terminus or the ted wedding.
I love Jack, the best character. Stupid sawyer screwed his romance, Jack could’ve had Kate if he tried harder. And to top it all off, sawyer took Juliet too😂😂. He just wants them all. Stupid sawyer. If he hadn’t pressed that button, sayid, sun and Jin would’ve lived
God I wish they had the budget for the volcano. Instead of rain they were supposed to fight over lava engulfing the surrounding rocks like Mt. F---ing Doom.
I thought it would be cool if MIB turned back into his original form instead of staying as Locke once he became human again. Don't know why the writers didn't go with that.
Is it just me or that in the first episode of season 6 “LAX” when jack looks at himself in the mirror on the plane he has blood coming from his neck is that foreshadowing to the MIB trying to stab jack in the neck ?? Was this explained ??
I will never understand what would have happened if MiB left the island on this boat. Jacob always said his mission was to keep it on the island so to prevent the evil to spread… Now that he is no longer a black smoke but a real human being, what could be the threat for planet Earth?
Because while they were fighting, the Heart of the Island was temporarily turned off, thus making the Man in Black powerless and mortal again. Remember that the Man in Black turned into the Smoke Monster when Jacob threw him into the Heart of the Island. His powers come from its extreme electromagnetic energy. Turning off that energy, means de-powering whoever has become a Smoke Monster.
Only thing that would have made this better is if they had established earlier that the real Locke was a trapped spirit on the island like the Whisperers, and that its a manifestation of him, instead of Kate, that helps Jack beat the Man in Black, and instead of being shot the real Locke throws a knife into his back. MIB dies, the real Locke's spirit is then released.
TheCaptain008 After the stone cork was released, the heart/source of the island was gone and that meant all the powers of the island was gone too. However, that meant that the MiB was mortal too as he was one with the dark side of the source.
@@Quball87 That's what I thought. It would have been a cruel irony for MiB to be so close but the collapse paralyzed and unable to move. Jack instead of killing him just tell him...and NOW you'll never leave this place, but live out your remaining days stuck in that body, helpless and confined to this Island until you die, as he kicks away MiB's knife.
No, because his powers come from the Heart of the Island, which was turned off while they were fighting. The Man in Black became powerless and mortal again.
why did the writers choose to make Locke the man in black? Locke finally convinced Jack the island was special and now Jack wants to fight for it. And the person he is fighting IS Locke, (the guy who convinced him this.) Kinda stupid. Am I missing some symbolism or something?
I loved Locke, too. I hated to see the the smoke monster take his form. However, the smoke monster was able to take form of one of the candidates in order to 1.) Tempt and fool the other candidates. And 2.) Create the loophole. 3.) Locke's image was only just a vessel to do what he wanted to do. The monster even says how it is ironic that he has Locke's body, because Locke was the only one who believed in the island, whereas the MIB, just wanted to leave the island.
Because the Man in Black was not the monster anymore after they put out the light (heart) of the island. With the exception of MIB anyone can kill Jacob, remember that Ben killed him.
santachorry The thing is like this: Mother used the light in such a way that made it impossible for Jacob(or who might take his place) and MIB to kill each other, remember the same thing happened to Richard, he said that if he would try to kill himself it won't work... the same here: if Jacob(or who would replace him) and MIB would try to kill each other, it won't work, because it is the light that prevents that. So the logical explanation would be that since the light was turned off, there wouldn't be anything to prevent them from killing each other. It's logical, the writers didn't lost themselves up when they wrote this as some people are assuming... ;)
+TheOny013 but didnt Jacob kill his brother the MIB when he found out that he killed his mother? And they found his bones next to his mother in the caves.
jacob trowing MIB into the river and making him hit a rock and lose his consciousness doesn't mean killing him. The light killed him, I mean more than killed him.
Homer Simpson Because the smoke monster was one with the darkness/evil that the island keeps at bay. If the cork was popped and Smokey left the island, he would take all of the evil with him and the world would end. The light on the island is the same light that engulfs them in the church, so there would be no afterlife for humans any more and no more rebirths.
Daniel Gray I dont get it, based on the bottle and wine analogy, once the cork was popped the evil is free; so why did nothing happen? Also, at this point mib and smoke were sperated again so what was the point of keeping him on the island he was just human who wanted to leave
As much as I feel sorry for him being a very tragic character, there is a very good reason to why Jacob wanted him to not leave the Island... The Man in Black, when Jacob threw him into the Heart of the Island, became trapped on the Island by its electromagnetic bubble. The only way he could escape, was turning off that energy by unplugging the cork at the Heart of the Island. But if the Heart of the Island is kept off for too long, eventually every living being and the universe itself will cease to exist. As Mother points out in "Across the Sea": "The light is the essence of life, death and rebirth, (...) some of this light is inside everyone of us, (...) if the light goes out here, it goes out everywhere". From here we can understand that every electromagnetic poket, not only on the Island, but in the rest of the world too, are affected by the power of the Heart of the Island. The light inside everyone of us is our soul/consciousness. So by turning off the Heart of the Island, when the Island will be totally sunk into the ocean, every living being will die and the entire world will end. And there wouldn't be an afterworld either (what is pictured in the Flash-sideways). But the Man in Black doesn't realize how important the Island really is. He's willing to destroy it for the only purpose of leaving it. That's why he needs to be stopped. (He is not pure darkness. The wine analogy that Jacob gives to Richard, is only a way to make a man with a limited "19th centuried mentality and way of thinking" understand the importance of the Island). The real question would be, why Mother didn't let him leave when he was still a normal human?
I think the Island's area of effects extends out to the sea quite a way and Jack had to return to the Source to reignite it before the Island was destroyed. If he let MIB go and turned it back on, MIB might not have got far enough away from the Island in time to be freed, become the Monster again and return, and the whole thing would continue all over again with the Monster continuing to torment and be tormented on the Island likely without there ever being a solution as if Desmond removed the cork to turn off the Source again, he wouldn't survive and nobody else could withstand the electromagnetism in the Source that long. Thats why Desmond was brought back to the Island, as only he had that resistance to electromagnetism.
![LOST: MiB and his "mother" down in the well [6x15-Across the Sea]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/IHviMpVieDI/mqdefault.jpg)
![LOST: MiB and his "mother" down in the well [6x15-Across the Sea]](/img/tr.png)
![LOST: The Ajira plane takes off [6x17-18 - The End]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/B0bpwamuWNA/mqdefault.jpg)
lol, i love how jack's epic falcon punch before the commercial turns into just him flailing and jumping on top of locke.
LMAO
Superman punch
I always noticed that and was then for a couple seconds disappointed
I remember when it was simulcasted, that was the last scene of 'the end' part 1.
_“You wear his face but you’re nothing like him. You disgrace his memory”_
Is that a deleted scene? I remember Jack saying that line in the cave when lowering Desmond into the area with the light. But just rewatched the series on Hulu and he didn’t say the line.
its there
@@Nflguy4949Sorry I’m 4 months late, but there are two versions of the finale on Hulu. One of them is a two part version that doesn’t include a few scenes, and the other version is the entire finale.
Monster: _”You’re too late. You can’t save the island.”_
Jack: _”Don’t tell me what I can’t do”_
**Kicks the body off the cliff**
How did they miss the chance to do this line.
Man that would have been such an epic line
Pretty epic that even in MiB's final moments, his body was left broken at the edge of the island, but he never could fulfil his lifelong mission of getting off it.
The man in black had 2,000 years to learn how to fight but lost to a spinal surgeon.
To be fair he was winning until he got shot in the back
@@kylepatrickhall1426 yeah, but 2,000 years, he should've been able to kill him fast.
Let alone he was weaker and lost all of his powers once the core was taken out of the island
@@Viktorreznov1942 But He never had any need to fight, he was an immortal cloud of smoke. Suddenly he is imprisoned in a mortal body again and supposed to fight like a human.
@@kylepatrickhall1426 Which honestly takes all the surgency of preventing him to get off the Island. Entire idea which Widmore was afraid of that they cant leave this thing off the island because smoke monster would be unstoppable. Hell possibly world ending threat or taking over the world threat. And then he looses all his powers so you could just let him go, because killing him only matters for justice, but there is no longer any tension of him reaching the world outside.
Locke: "You're too late. You can't stop it"
Jack: "Don't tell me what I can't do"
-Kicks him off-
How epic would that have been?
Same thought, yessssa
Oh yeah
I'm so pissed off they didn't do that. It would have been perfect.
I wish you wrote some of the characters lines.
AwesomeBXPeter it was the man in black not Locke so it wouldn’t have made sense
Locke was the best choice for the role of the MIB
Love the role revearsal between Jack and Locke
jack was kinda like the smocke monster during the first half of the show.
@@mikeinglese9631 locke was a great choice to become the new jaycob. NIB loves looking like locke because he wants to show everybody loving the island is useless.
John would’ve been proud of the man Jack became.
Mike Inglese no, Jacobs brother was the smoke monster’s actual form
Imagine going to the past and telling yourself back in season 1 that Kate will shoot the smoke monster and kill it.
@@BillyTheKidLawrence They both did.
@@BillyTheKidLawrence he died before he hit the ground he was barely breathing
@@BillyTheKidLawrence it was a team effort.
Actually, Kate just shot him. Jack killed him.
@@feiwnakausvkaxbdkebkswowbq8331 You don't know that he died before hitting the ground.
The knife that Terry used to stab Matthew was real. They mixed up the real knife and the collapsible knife. Luckily the patch used to protect from the collapsible knife held up with the real knife. Otherwise Terry would have literally stabbed Matthew on camera.
Almost had an Alec Baldwin situation.
And the way Jack says Locke: Epic! Gave me chills!
I hope Matthew Fox continues to make good tv shows and movies. I`d hate to see him drop out of the public eye.
+Omar Garad can it really be his fault? if he doesn't get any audition, theres nothing he can do about it.
+1747CT I didn't say it was his fault. I just stated that I'd hate see him drop out of the public eye.
What about Terry O'Queen ?
Never saw him in any role after Lost and he was such a great actor
Fei Li he was on wwz and a movie with forest Whitaker were he's a killer
He is a likeable guy...
"I saved you a bullet!" One of my favorite LOST quotes. :)
Well, he did tell her earlier to save her bullets.
Always thought this was a missed opportunity. When Flocke is on his knees in front of Jack he should have said:
Flocke: It's too late Jack... you can't stop it.
Jack: .... Don't tell me what I can't do!
*kicks him off the cliff*
I'm I the only one who loves jacks superman puch at 0:36?
yes you are the only one, now stfu
If he actually hit him it would be dope
Everything about this, the cinematography, music and fight choreography , is just epic.
That was the point of it though. Locke provided both a confusing friend/foe dynamic with the MIB, making it difficult to really understand his motivation. And how terrifying a concept is it to have your enemy wearing the face of your friend?
And it's not Locke's body, the monster just looks like him (Locke's actual body is buried on the beach).
I remembered the first time I saw this. I was like "Let's go Jack, kick MiB in his damn it face and finished it". But when MiB stabbed the knife into Jacks chest it felt like he also stabbed into my chest. An indescribably horrible feeling...
Only just occurred to me all these years later that "Locke" was killed by a fall from a great height.
I never noticed that. I'm sure that was intentional. In locked flashback it shows Jacob reading a book called everything that rises must converge
it always rains when there are awesome scenes,
MW2Hiders The island sweats.
Amazing music score from michael giacchino in this scene.
The only thing that would've been more epic is if after Flocke said "You're too late," he said, "You can't stop it now," and Jack replied, "Don't tell me what I can't do," before kicking him off the cliff.
The MiB disliked this
Him and Whidmore.
EPIC. Both the action and how it brings a key conflict to an end.
Awesome dude! Thanks for everything
Jack should have told the Monster to get Lost.
Get it… Lost?
I’ll see myself out.
Ba dum tssss
Great fight scene when I watched this and when Jack got stabbed I brust into tears as I knew jack was going to die
Sounds like you had a crush on him.
I know, it bugs me how the writers missed such an awesome opportunity to use that line, can't help but think it every time I watch it.
Yes, he died. What a tragic life.
good lord, both of lockes deaths did a dis-service to such an epic character.
The death to the real Locke was just pathetic. Everything in the show pointed to the fact that he'd be resurrected, or have some higher purpose in the finale. But nope... he just died in a dirty hotel room, delusional crazy guy duped into a suicide mission by MiB, because he was gullible and thought he was hearing mystical Island voices. Really bad writing, and a terrible shame.
@@terracottapie i agree. They took this show in a disappointing direction
@@thelavinator6343 yes they did
@@thelavinator6343 Locke was supposed to die in a pathetic way though. He died as he lived, and it served as a marker for Jack to improve on himself as he felt like he had failed Locke. I think had Locke had some grand resurrection or epic death Jack couldn't have evolved as well and the story wouldve suffered as a result. Plus not every great character gets a great death
@@northgreen21 Mr Eko was actually originally gonna be the vessel for the man in black. Tbh I could see Locke getting Jack's death, and Jack becoming the protector of the island instead of Hurley.
I called it.
At the end of season 1.
I watched their conversation before they blew the hatch open, and I was like, "they are going to have an epic showdown come the last episode."
Granted, I was off on a couple of things, but this was about as epic as I had pictured it being.
i think this made it more interesting
Well, it wasn’t really the Locke we knew and loved from the beginning fighting Jack, but…yeah.
locke deserved so much better. in a way the island used him just like everyone else before, just because of his incredible faith.
Comrade!!! in på jka!! springtävling nästa vecka!!
It would've been a lot less dramatic if Locke'd just stepped to the side when Jack jumped and let him bounce off the rocks and off the cliff, but it would've been a lot funnier
One thing that irks me so bad after rewatching this now is the same thing that Irks me now. The fact that they didn't use the volcano in this episode. Three damn years or so trying to pay attention to all the shenanigans with the thought of it in the back of my head like chekovs gun over the matlepiece. Would have been great to at least see the damn thing go off right after this.
Had to google after this reliving that "But what about the volcano!" moment after the finale fight here and there are actually articles. Probably blew their wad on everything else and were running on fumes by this point but that damn gun is still hanging over the mantlepiece.
I think it was a mix of “a lava-side fist fight was too expensive to pull off convincingly on a network TV show’s VFX budget at the time” and “the idea of Jack VS MiB fighting around lava fields would get compared to the climax of Revenge of the Sith too much to be taken seriously” that killed the volcano idea, IIRC.
@@skinnysnorlax9356 This is a good Point. I was thinking more along the lines of Jack and Kate kill MIB have a moment of respite where they emotinally reconnect and everything seems to be going as planned when Boom, the tectonic shaking of the entire island finally triggers the volcano to go off. Though even with a seperation between the inciting incident of the fight and the eruption of the volcano you still might be right on the revenge of the sith parallels being drawn by the audience.
Though after looking into myself, you're absolutely right on the first point, I just don't think they had the budget to pull the trigger on that gun and sell it convincingly.
I posted here once before but I thought of one more (promise just one!) gripe in that Jack should not have called him Locke. I know its probably just for convenience's sake, the guy had no real name known to anyone, but after Jack's words in the cave, "You're not John Locke. You disrespect his memory by wearing his face but you're nothing like him.", I would have liked it if he never called him Locke after that.
Even worse, I think every time the characters call him "Locke" when they know it's not Locke, it's really shitty. It's fine when they think it's the real Locke, but when they know, they should call him something else.
I agree. In fact, it would be much cooler if Jacob had told them his real name (Barry) and Jack had named MiB that name.
That's a good observation! I read that that was the connection they were actually going for.
One thing I still wonder if MiB genuinely offered Ben a place on his boat. Sure he had to hurry because everyone was after him and he was mortal, but would he let Ben aboard if they travelled to the shore together?
Lol, the sound when Jack kicks off the MiB is so satisfying .
this scene was epic thumbs up if you agree
Team Jate ❤ Epic moment,Great score
Badass fight.
This was easily the best fight scene from lost
Should've added a Wilhelm scream when he got kicked off the cliff.
Kate just stole his XP from killing the monster
the only thing i don’t like is jack and Flocke’s last words. they should’ve done something like this - same scenario and what not but as flocke is on the ground after kate shoots him, jack should come up and be like see ya later then locke is like you can’t win jack then jack says “don’t tell me what i can’t do” so things come full circle
I like the Rising Jackface Jumping Punch of Fury xD
IT'S OVER JOHNAKIN I HAVE THE HIGH GROUND
0:40 I love how Locke slips right before Jack gets him xD
Thanks! Hey do have the video where MIB, BEN & DESMOND found JACK, SAWYER, HURLEY & KATE started shooting MIB when he got in Jack's face b4 they went to the heart of the island!
SPAAAARRRTTAAAAA
I like how the guys battle eachother
All he wanted to do was leave the island 😢
when jsck kicked locke off of the edge it kindda reminded me of when locke killed jacob
hebbsie shit never realised that
It is crazy how the dominant cultural influences shifted more into that pure savagery. The 2000s truly is the perfect balance of realism/violence and rewarding values. Unlike terminus or the ted wedding.
I love Jack, the best character. Stupid sawyer screwed his romance, Jack could’ve had Kate if he tried harder. And to top it all off, sawyer took Juliet too😂😂. He just wants them all. Stupid sawyer. If he hadn’t pressed that button, sayid, sun and Jin would’ve lived
I saved you a bullet is always a jump out my chair fist pumping moment…
Jack is no Roman Reigns with that Superman punch...lol. " I saved you a bullet " is one of my favorite lines
Still don't understand how kate could now all of a sudden shoot the monster??
He was without the powers so he now suffered pain
God I wish they had the budget for the volcano. Instead of rain they were supposed to fight over lava engulfing the surrounding rocks like Mt. F---ing Doom.
"I saved you a bullet!"
I love jacks super man punch but then In the next scene he just flails on him.
LIQUIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIID
what did they do with MIB's corpse? was it buried thrown into the sea ? or they analyzed his body? what DNA it has?
lol
I think the corpse fell into the ocean.
@hebbsie That was the symbolism behind it.
0:14 0:28 0:36 1:58 2:01 2:07 2:11 1:38 1:42
Missing sock? It was a sacrifice the dryer demanded.
I thought it would be cool if MIB turned back into his original form instead of staying as Locke once he became human again. Don't know why the writers didn't go with that.
He was blocked in Locke's body for all.
Or if during the fight against Jack he kept changing his form to the other characters in the series who are strong like Sawyer, Jin, Ethan and others
@@-GearUp That would have been cool. But he already lost his powers at that point. So it wouldn't have made sense.
A little shorter than what I had hoped for and Kate's line just ruins the entire mood. Great fight though, and finale as a whole.
2:38... THIS.IS.SPARTAAAA!!
Is it just me or that in the first episode of season 6 “LAX” when jack looks at himself in the mirror on the plane he has blood coming from his neck is that foreshadowing to the MIB trying to stab jack in the neck ?? Was this explained ??
yes and after this scene in the hospital Jack's neck is bleeding again
They were dead in Season 6 off the island. That was their moving on after life.
I will never understand what would have happened if MiB left the island on this boat. Jacob always said his mission was to keep it on the island so to prevent the evil to spread…
Now that he is no longer a black smoke but a real human being, what could be the threat for planet Earth?
He probably would have turned back into smoke once they returned the cork.
0:41 LOL
Imagine watchung the first season and then someone tells you that all this will end with Kate of all people killing the main villain LMFAO
One dislike? That would be the MiB, right?
I /hated/ kate for the entirety of lost. Absolutely detested her... but this one scene made me forgive everything she'd done. Good job, kate.
o ok lol thx
What's the name of the soundtrack?
Locke V. Jack
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@poneypack because he was no longer a smoke monster after the light got turned off.
Can anyone explain why MiB didn't turn into the smoke monster thing and yeeted them off the cliff?
Because while they were fighting, the Heart of the Island was temporarily turned off, thus making the Man in Black powerless and mortal again.
Remember that the Man in Black turned into the Smoke Monster when Jacob threw him into the Heart of the Island. His powers come from its extreme electromagnetic energy. Turning off that energy, means de-powering whoever has become a Smoke Monster.
Yeet them 😂😂😂
that is not locke, just mib/smokie
It's not really Locke, Locke is dead the MIB just took his form. It's not really locke.
STUNTS1516 yeah we know
Truly an epic fight. Would have been even better without Kate's crappy one liner at the end.
0:55
Why didn't MIB just climb down the ladder and escape? Ridiculous that he tries to fight a man half his age, and for what? His most stupid mistake.
Jack could have waited MIB go down the ladder and just kick him from there, instead he decided to almost die.
The Island was being destroyed, Jack had to kill Locke fast to return to the Source and turn it back on.
Why is he holding his side he got stabbed under the arm
So he killed the smoke monster?
Only thing that would have made this better is if they had established earlier that the real Locke was a trapped spirit on the island like the Whisperers, and that its a manifestation of him, instead of Kate, that helps Jack beat the Man in Black, and instead of being shot the real Locke throws a knife into his back. MIB dies, the real Locke's spirit is then released.
It's been like 3 years since I've watched Lost (for like the 4th time). Did the MiB become mortal here or...? What is it i'm not remembering?
TheCaptain008 After the stone cork was released, the heart/source of the island was gone and that meant all the powers of the island was gone too. However, that meant that the MiB was mortal too as he was one with the dark side of the source.
@@danielgray2661 Funny loop hole here: Wouldn't the body of John Locke then be paralyzed again if all the island's powers melted away?
@@Quball87 That's what I thought. It would have been a cruel irony for MiB to be so close but the collapse paralyzed and unable to move. Jack instead of killing him just tell him...and NOW you'll never leave this place, but live out your remaining days stuck in that body, helpless and confined to this Island until you die, as he kicks away MiB's knife.
@@Quball87 correct, awful show
So at this point, he couldn't transform as smoke?
No, because his powers come from the Heart of the Island, which was turned off while they were fighting. The Man in Black became powerless and mortal again.
Man in Black = Seth
Jack = Anubis
Jacob = Taweret
It was Horus who killed Seth unless I’m wrong?
why did the writers choose to make Locke the man in black? Locke finally convinced Jack the island was special and now Jack wants to fight for it. And the person he is fighting IS Locke, (the guy who convinced him this.) Kinda stupid. Am I missing some symbolism or something?
I loved Locke, too. I hated to see the the smoke monster take his form.
However, the smoke monster was able to take form of one of the candidates in order to 1.) Tempt and fool the other candidates. And 2.) Create the loophole.
3.)
Locke's image was only just a vessel to do what he wanted to do. The monster even says how it is ironic that he has Locke's body, because Locke was the only one who believed in the island, whereas the MIB, just wanted to leave the island.
so did he die there?? or not plz tell
Who knows.
Kaleb Goldsmith Locke died when ben strangled him, but MiB died here.
I wanted MIB to win.
Why doesn't the Man in Black just turn into Smokey, or a polar bear?
Because the Island's light got turned off, rendering him mortal.
he lost his powers
that fake falcon punch was so fking terrible.
Wait a minute, how can Locke stab Jack? I thought at this point Jack was the islands protector, so how can any harm come to him?
Because the Man in Black was not the monster anymore after they put out the light (heart) of the island. With the exception of MIB anyone can kill Jacob, remember that Ben killed him.
santachorry The thing is like this: Mother used the light in such a way that made it impossible for Jacob(or who might take his place) and MIB to kill each other, remember the same thing happened to Richard, he said that if he would try to kill himself it won't work... the same here: if Jacob(or who would replace him) and MIB would try to kill each other, it won't work, because it is the light that prevents that. So the logical explanation would be that since the light was turned off, there wouldn't be anything to prevent them from killing each other. It's logical, the writers didn't lost themselves up when they wrote this as some people are assuming... ;)
The Light is the magic of the island, when the Island light was put out so was its power.
+TheOny013 but didnt Jacob kill his brother the MIB when he found out that he killed his mother? And they found his bones next to his mother in the caves.
jacob trowing MIB into the river and making him hit a rock and lose his consciousness doesn't mean killing him. The light killed him, I mean more than killed him.
MIB just wanted to leave island, why Jacob wanted him not to leave
Homer Simpson Because the smoke monster was one with the darkness/evil that the island keeps at bay. If the cork was popped and Smokey left the island, he would take all of the evil with him and the world would end. The light on the island is the same light that engulfs them in the church, so there would be no afterlife for humans any more and no more rebirths.
Daniel Gray I dont get it, based on the bottle and wine analogy, once the cork was popped the evil is free; so why did nothing happen?
Also, at this point mib and smoke were sperated again so what was the point of keeping him on the island he was just human who wanted to leave
As much as I feel sorry for him being a very tragic character, there is a very good reason to why Jacob wanted him to not leave the Island...
The Man in Black, when Jacob threw him into the Heart of the Island, became trapped on the Island by its electromagnetic bubble. The only way he could escape, was turning off that energy by unplugging the cork at the Heart of the Island. But if the Heart of the Island is kept off for too long, eventually every living being and the universe itself will cease to exist.
As Mother points out in "Across the Sea": "The light is the essence of life, death and rebirth, (...) some of this light is inside everyone of us, (...) if the light goes out here, it goes out everywhere".
From here we can understand that every electromagnetic poket, not only on the Island, but in the rest of the world too, are affected by the power of the Heart of the Island. The light inside everyone of us is our soul/consciousness.
So by turning off the Heart of the Island, when the Island will be totally sunk into the ocean, every living being will die and the entire world will end. And there wouldn't be an afterworld either (what is pictured in the Flash-sideways).
But the Man in Black doesn't realize how important the Island really is. He's willing to destroy it for the only purpose of leaving it.
That's why he needs to be stopped.
(He is not pure darkness. The wine analogy that Jacob gives to Richard, is only a way to make a man with a limited "19th centuried mentality and way of thinking" understand the importance of the Island).
The real question would be, why Mother didn't let him leave when he was still a normal human?
So why did Jack killed him? He was already powerless and just wanted to be free...
Revenge mostly. MIB killed sayid, Sun and Jin
I think the Island's area of effects extends out to the sea quite a way and Jack had to return to the Source to reignite it before the Island was destroyed. If he let MIB go and turned it back on, MIB might not have got far enough away from the Island in time to be freed, become the Monster again and return, and the whole thing would continue all over again with the Monster continuing to torment and be tormented on the Island likely without there ever being a solution as if Desmond removed the cork to turn off the Source again, he wouldn't survive and nobody else could withstand the electromagnetism in the Source that long. Thats why Desmond was brought back to the Island, as only he had that resistance to electromagnetism.
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