How much did it COST to own my 987.2 Cayman S for a YEAR?
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- Опубліковано 29 вер 2024
- I've owned my 2009 987.2 Porsche Cayman S for one year now, and it's been a fun year with some definite ups and downs... today we'll go over the cost of owning and upgrading my car for one year! I've had some regular and unexpected Porsche maintenance, as well as a ton of upgrades transforming the look of the car! Today we'll break it down and see if it was all worth it...
"But man, it really got away from me."
- Every car guy at least once, usually several times.
When I purchased my 06 CS 987.1 it was an agreement with my wife I did most of the maintenance. Oil changes are easy...1 screw. My daughters VW Jetta has 14 or more screws. Breaks are easy. The belts, tensioners, and pullies take some work but can be done by someone with no experience in 3-4 hours easy. Overall the maintenance is way less expensive then the BWM 325i E46 I replaced because I had the shop do all the BMW maintenance. I have had mine almost 4 years now and love it. Don't get cheap tires... you will regret it.
You can tell that the Porsche was designed by an engineer who wanted to make maintenance easy.
That does seem like a lot for maintenance. I picked up a 2011 Cayman S back in 2017. I think I’ve paid about $5k for maintenance over the past 6 years including new tires, battery, a major service, and yearly oil changes. Love it and keeping it forever. Hope you keep enjoying your car.
His problem was he bought a car from someone who thought 21" rims would look good, so it clearly was somewhat neglected.
how many miles bro
Is your Cayman a daily driver? I do oil changes more frequently on mine.
I'm looking at buying a 987.1, or 977 2...for my 16yr old daughter....I'm learning the common problems of 987.1 to 987.2...as far as motor and maintenance...
@@churchbryan35 a Porsche for a 16 year old is crazy from my point of view... Our laws in Italy are super strict regarding new drivers because of safety of course
Just go easy with the first car, rear wheel drive and 245 horse power aren't easy to control and even doing simple parking maneuvers with coupes could be tricky for a newbie
These are just my 2 cents, you do you
Sounds like the biggest lesson learned is to get a good pre purchase inspection. The other issues were options you elected,to do. Just glad the engine and driver train are solid. I do like the color of the wrap.
It really pays to be able to do your own work and maintenance. On my 987.1 , I've done water pump, OAS, coil packs and plugs, cat back exhaust and all fluid changes myself. Saves a ton of money!!
What’s the OAS? I’m looking into buying a 987.2. I know they have different engines but I’m still curious bout the .1 !
@@TooFlyNicoI think he actually meant AOS which is the air oil separator
Porsche inspection prior to purchase, would have been. Good idea. Looks great! Enjoy
It’s worth it
Dude. Watch some UA-cam videos and buy some tools.
I usually watch your Mac stuff, but I love cars far more than I love Apple. I prefer a convertible so I would get a Boxster in this generation.
I’ve owned a 2010 Cayman 987.2 for six years and apart from regular oil changes have only had a pdk service and new rotors all round. I have had apple car play installed and front and rear cameras, like you I love the car. I love the colour of the wrap and the slightly lowered suspension. Just out of interest the local Porsche dealer here in south east Queensland ( Australia) told me that due to massive production cut backs in 2009 due to the GFC the 987.2 Cayman is in short supply and accordingly is a good “keeper”.
Hey, I picked up a 987.2 a few weeks back and have been looking for a CarPlay to fit. What CarPlay do you have? And do you like it?
For a 14-year old car and out of warranty, I see no reason to give a Porsche to an official Porsche-Dealer to fix or maintenance the car. Those crazy Porsche-Taxes are just insane for doing a poor job on the car as any suspect backstreet garage can do as well but for the half the price. Or when you have some mechanic skill, do it youself and save the money! I agree, the parts are still expensive, but don't have pay the overpriced mechanic, which taxes you for 10 minutes of work about 150 bucks is just satifiying me.
The one and only reason a Porsche goes to official garage is because warranty and free service.
I've had my 2011 987.2 S since 2017. Acquired with 55,000 miles and just crossed 90k. No major mechanical problems or quality issues. Just a couple of random things like a solenoid issue that caused a high pitched whining noise emanating through the side vents. Other than that, I've stuck with the prescribed service intervals/standard upkeep like oil, brakes etc. and have had minimal problems. By far the best and most reliable car I've ever owned.
This might have been the catalyst to finally get the wrap and refresh I've been wanting. Dark green with gunmetal wheels.
overpaid for everything, dang
I aggree. This car is gorgeous and more gorgeous the way you updated it .
What happened to the silver one?
Best from it‘s home country.
Silver Cayman was sold, i never intended on having 2 🫠
@@themiddlelanelmyou should do a video, or maybe even a UA-cam short👀 on the total cost of the car including maintenance and everything and how much you sold it for and if you think the discrepancy was worth the ownership
I have a 2012 base Cayman, coming up to 2 years ownership in October, and I feel for the price you had to pay for maintenance and cosmetics. The most expensive part for me being the wheels, the same Turbo wheels you have, except I got mine powder coated black. Got a red and black colour scheme going on with my car, and the black accents absolutely gives the car a more sport-y and serious appearance, so it's a must for me. But like you said at the end of the video, it's all worth it, and is still the best car i've ever owned and driven soo far, and look to keep mine for a long time yet ❤
That sounds like a great spec!
@@themiddlelanelm It's actually a pretty minimal spec. It's got heated seats and a manual, but nothing that really adds or changes performance, no sport button, PASM, sports exhaust etc.
In retrospect, I maybe should've waited and saved abit more money to get a Cayman with just abit more to it's spec. But that doesn't mean I regret buying the car I have now. It's still fun as hell, it's drives great, I can use it as a daily whilst still having that fun factor. And quite frankly, if I REALLY want to add those extra options i.e a sports exhaust, there's plenty of options. But even then, i'm not in a rush. It's still by far the best car i've had.
It happens with it getting away from you. I bought a nice one owner 986.2 S for 17k last year. I put about $6000 in it so far and will be having a shop bill today for almost $2000. I did exhaust, taillights, suspension, powdercoated wheels, spoiler and so on. I really like the car but will never see my money back out of it but will definitely enjoy it. I also bought a Cayman S two months ago so now I have 2 money pits. Already did taillights on it. The Porsche Slippery Slope!
Just do maintenance and improvements but keep it totally original, any mods are just a money pit and will hurt resale value rather than help it
what's been done to it?
Thanks for sharing the total cost of ownership, very insightful. In the end, if you are happy with the car that’s all that matters.
These videos are always so depressing to watch as an Australian, knowing that the same car car would cost 1.5 - 2x as much to purchase here.
They knew that leak was steering fluid.
Nice looking car though.
This guy knows nothing about cars and throws money at every problem. $700 for a washer fluid bottle! 🤦♂️
Love your video! Can you please let me know where and what brand head unit for apple carplay? I want to get the exact one. Thanks
Thanks for sharing your experience. You did a really nice job with your aesthetic improvements. I wonder how many of the maintenance issues would have been discovered with the average PPI.
Ah that's not bad for an old car.....I spent more than that doing maintenance on my 2024 G87 M2....granted it's cause I spun out on day 3 of ownership and hopped the median and destroyed 2 wheels and bent a control arm :*( Edit: Oh yea and a wheel bearing.
You bought an automatic? Ugh
At least it’s a 987.2 so it’s pdk not a 5 speed auto
I would’ve jb welded that reservoir, good saved $600
What about insurance and license fees?
Don't worry about it, car will last you a long time, other then then steering failure the rest was cosmetic really and a service. In the 10 years of owning mine I have had to replace the window motors both sides (live in a country where the windows freeze) brake pump as well as a super expensive fuse for the AC but that has been it.
get the zunsport front grills and get the 718 rear light upgrade and the car will look like its just been released from the factory as other then the rear lights the car has aged beautifully.
I have been considering selling my 2008 AP2 S2000 for a while in order to try and get into a 987.2 Boxster/Cayman S... I think you've convinced me to keep my S2000 lol. I've owned it for the past 5 years, which, admittedly, I only drive it about ~2000 miles a year (it's currently at 65k miles), but even with a full season of SCCA autocross, the comparison in maintenance costs (especially when reading through the comments) is staggering. In 5 years with my AP2 S2000, including a full season of SCCA C-Street (where I trophied for the season- translation: the car wasn't exactly babied), the only "failure" I've experienced is a sticky clutch about ~4 years ago. I spent about ~$20 on fluid, bled the clutch (only takes a few minutes), and viola, it never stuck again. I also had a bad gas cap 2-3 years ago that cost me $30. Essentially, in 5 years of ownership, driving the car hard (sometimes in competition), it's literally only cost me $50 in repairs.
To be clear, I've spent a lot more than that on preventative maintenance- oil changes (changed annually), transmission fluid, diff fluid, filters, spark plugs (they weren't really needed, but I'm pretty OCD about "an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of the cure"), flushed the coolant (again, not needed, but cheap and easy), brake fluid, etc. I even did a preventative maintenance valve adjustment (only recommended once every ~100k miles or so- but only takes a couple of hours with some feeler gauges), so I had to buy a new valve cover gasket (still relatively cheap). I used only OEM Honda or high quality fluids/parts and I did all the work myself (these cars are stupid easy to work on/service). Last I checked, I've spent a total of $494 in maintenance and repairs in the past 5 years, so roughly ~$100/year.. I also spent an additional $75 in Dr ColorChip touch-up paint (damn rock chips!), so I supposed that could be added to the cost of repairs.
To be fair, I'm not counting the cost of modifications (there aren't many) or track/competition related wheels/tires. What I've learned about myself after watching this video is: I think I might be too much of a cheap bastard to own a Porsche.
Where could I get A good CarPlay system?
Nice vid and another happy Cayman owner. I've had my '11 987.2 for six year and love it. A set of tires, fluids, filters and v-belt. Any further info on the Apple Car-Play option? That might be something I'd do, although I hardly turn on the system given the engine's amazing soundtrack! I did detail and paint the engine with clear engine cover and that is a stunning upgrade.
me i own a 2009 s and do track weekends 6 times a year at mont Tremblant quebec canada and wow!!!
no issues , change the discs breakes and bought good race pads break and semi slick tires...
i never thougt this car be that quick and easy to drive
Damn it has already been a year, time goes by so quick
I know!
It’s a tough lesson. You should have left paint as is, done wheels and drove it a couple years than sold it. With $10k (upgrades)+ $33k from selling, you could have been in a newer cayman with less miles and issues. Wrapping a Porsche is the biggest waste of money ever.
You should have gotten the manual.
Hope you change your oil more than once a year from now on
I have a 2011 Boxster S, no issues since new, other than I have a power steering line which is weeping a few drops a year. I keep watching it and check the fluid level. Also, change you pads before you hit the pad sensors, they are expensive to replace. I have the steering wheel with the paddles. I changed out the coolant, supposed to be lifetime…..right. Currently 25,000 miles. Never used launch control, I wouldn’t do that to my car.
How do you do a whole video about cost to own and not include the mileage for the car?
What model Porsche could you have bought though with the purchase price and cost of ownership in one year? I suspect buying an old one is a false economy
That money you put in maintenance now will last you quite awhile. It’ll spread out over the years to come. Love the color btw.
But the mods will diminish resale value
@@PointNemo9 I doubt it. The wrap is removable. Everything is reversible. The wheels are oem now.
@@ericbauer4559 The wrap is only a small fraction of the mods
@@PointNemo9 I’d say it’s the biggest fraction of the mods. This is not a heavily modded car.
is that 3M Fiery Orange?
I really wanted this car until you mentioned the $426 oil change. My heart just couldn't do that and would cry all the time. It'd ruin the car for me
You can do this by yourself. If you buy the oil and filter yourself you get it mich cheaper. In my opinion a Car that is older than 10 years i'm doing oil and filters myself. I own one and a oil change costs me about 150-200 dollars with oil and filters. Depends if you change the magnets to or not🤷♂️
Gone get that 911 turbo 😅😅
Nicely done ride! Color is perfect. I've always felt these cars look better in wild colors. My 2009 Ruby Red has made a believer of me.
Your money, your car, your build.
You happy?
Thats what matters.
I've done 120k miles in my Viper. everyone was worth it!
I hope you got a new mechinic
You did good, I have spent way to much on my sports car, doubled the price the first year easy. I know what your feeling. The Cayman is great, keep it and enjoy, dont let it go, too nice with your wheels and maintained. Nice job on putting proper size wheels on it.
How much did it Cost to buy
You car looks awsome. What is the brand and the color code of this wrap?
I’ve been shopping for these so this is helpful to know. One of the only things I don’t like about them is those pdk buttons so if you do a wheel replacement for some paddle shifters it’d be very interesting to see
This is mad! I spent a little less than that across 2 years on my 987.1 base 🤯
Thank you.
What is the CarPlay unit that you bought? Have you had any issues with it?
Looks like the PCCM+. It's an original Porsche part and plug and play. They make them for all "older" Porsche's. Really cool systems, expensive, but really upgrades/modernizes the car
damn that wrap looks amazing, i thought it was a stock paint :o
People have asked me if it was paint before 😆 they did an amazing job
I'm not familiar with a car wrap, what is it?@@themiddlelanelm
Hi, please make a video from the CarPlay Android upgrade. Installation, sound quality from music streaming app, costs, compatibility to Bose Sound Systeme ❤❤❤
@themiddlelane, hey. Is it worth it to buy specifically this car for like 30 grands? Counting all could happen problems which some could be really expensive
Congratulations on your purchase for sure. It’s such a beautiful nibble and fast performing car with the perfect engine to weight ratio. The only thing I didn’t like I noticed while you were driving is the flickering lights on your dashboard. Why are the lights continuously flickering on your dashboard? Is there some underlined maintenance issue going on there?
6:46 it was way too much money :P
Yeah I know 😔
Tarts handbag?
Joking, thinking of getting one myself.
didn't include the cost of the wrap... also... the lack of good auto mechanics really makes it a hassle to own an older car these days... you see a hydraulic fluid leak.. you pay 150 freakin' dollars to make sure it's not serious... ' it's water ' ...
5:20 ugh I the reason why I distrust most mechanics from dealers, they'll do anything to make an extra buck, usually from lots of pressure from higher ups. If they replaced it to save you money, they would of lost money, from in their eyes, a wealthy Porche Owner.
? 1 lousy year? C’mon. Could’ve done nothing. 3yrs, 5 yrs, 7 yrs, now THAT is real
On one hand, 4k for one year is crazy, on the other everything you fixed save for the oil changed is the kind of fix that last years if not more. So it will definitely even out with time, you just bought the car from a shitty owner, unlucky.
I don't get the people who buy cars and first expense is wrapping it :) So the unwritten rule with used cars, when buying them, first do the big maintainance, it's a must it's not the yearly maintainance cost(brakes, filters, oil, belts,AC, etc.) and then run the car for half to an year and fix all the other mechanical issues on the go and then you probably have your peace of mind for next few years :)
it dont matter if you over spent as long as you are happy with the results. getting rid of those oversizrd ugly rims should be considered fixing an issue not cosmetic. it was equipped with wrong parts and not to sprc. im glad i found your video detailing some of the costs of maintenance. at over $400 for just an oil change, its way too much for me tp justify even if these are in my price range. back to looking for an atsv or ct6 something easier on the wallet for maintenance...
Eww you bought an automatic?
It’s a Porsche…not some clapped out Miata, or 370. Can’t offer a luxury sport vehicle without an automatic option, and Porsche does it well unlike many offering lackluster Automatics.
I have 987.2S in manual for a couple years now and it’s not about owning the car, it’s about running it as it’s designed. You will eat through tires, brakes, oil, gasoline, clutches, etc.
I just did $5k in clutch, mass, rear main seal, slave cylinder, tranny fluid replacement and battery. Year before high-pressure fuel pump and engine mount - $2700. Tires - $1500. Easy $10k in 2 years, excluding gas and extra things. It’s always worth it though!
But... maintenance was deferred before you purchased the car, leaking washer reservoir as proof. These parts that were replaced were at or near end of life and this is normal and not something that is done more than once.
Make up your mind. You spent too much or you didn’t spend too much. Consider editing video
I don’t find the sport mode to make that much ch difference in mine. It keeps the rpm’s higher in automatic and that’s about it.
Glad you like your cayman. Most owners do.
2006 987S Boxster autom., maintenance over the last 4.2 years ownership (own oil changes w. Mobile 1): US$2665/year. Speeding tickets: $1000+. Best buy ever.
If you had spent the $14K upfront would that have gotten you a better cayman?
You meant steering pump not water pump. We know what you meant. lol
Yeah lol
What is the car play unit? Is it something that would come in a Cayman?
Hey man congrats on the beautiful car :) whats the exterior color called?
My takeaway is that you should decide how much to put into a car vs just saving up for one that has the work already done to save on any surprise bills maintenance from coming up!
How did it go from you doing a full service on the car for $1200 to this? The car parts are still the same price, did you go to a mechanic?
I bought a 2013 boxster s (w 28k miles on it) for 43k. Have had it for 2 years and put 13k miles on it. Have spent $1,600 on maintenance, one small repair and two tires. It doesn’t have to cost an arm and a leg
Are all your coolant lines original? Did you have them checked. This is the one thing holding me back. They expect yo to spend $30k and you can't see the engine or undercarriage without a lift.
Do you still plan to make these videos after your move? Or was that more of a DC thing that you won’t be able to do in LA?
Question: how tall are you bcs i want to buy one but im really tall (2m/6.56feet) and cant really testdrive one. So how tall are you and are you comfortabel?
In my opinion you did not spend too much to be happy! Furthermore, that car is beautiful.
PPI might’ve caught that power steering leak. Buying a cat with good maintenance history is key. Familiarize yourself with the scheduled maintenance and compare to the maintenance record of the prospective car you’re buying. Negotiate price accordingly. And oil changes are waaaaay too easy to pay $400 for. Mods look great tho. Well executed.
Man, it seems like you really love your car. For good reason, its an awesome car. By that measure it doesn't seem like you overspent. Enjoy your ride brother.
Button shift steering wheel is awful. The paddle shift upgrade is amazing.
What is the exact model of those wheels? They look great. And I must say that orange is truly amazing.
car looks amazing . . . what was the upgrade path you did with the headunit . . got any links?
Still got those black wheels, And would you be interested in selling them
Still, considering what it can be (former 996 owner here.. I spent damn near 40k in preventative maintenance only to have the engine grenatde itself a couple years later) - 10k is really not that bad. And, car looks sick, well spent I think.
Which head unit did you get? Can you post the link?
It is a Porsche so will be fast and fun. They race and win. Good feeling I bet driving it!
Can't find the video about CarPlay anymore, removed?
This orange
color wrap is insane. Do you know the name or a code of this color?
Luke, it's a beautiful car. How much was the wrap?
how much was the wrap?
$3800
Looks great but you’d better get a hagerty declared value policy on it now
Hahaha leaking washer fluid...... No kidding
It's a beautiful vehicle. Hopefully, no more surprise repairs.
Nice car! Love the color wrap. Can you tell me the exact shade of orange and how much? Also, the oil change seemed very expensive. Is it common to spend $400+ each time for an oil change?? Tks so,much!
You can get the oil change supplies from the OEM rather than direct from Porsche for about 1/4th the cost.
And i’m dreaming of owning a morris minor or a car from the 20s of my likeing
Damn, I remember the disaster of the first one.
Seeing this restarts my 'replace the Miata' itch.
What’s the colour of the wrap? It looks soo good!
Beautiful car, congratulations .