I had a 2006 G35 bought it at about 30k miles. I loved that car so much. Thought it had the perfect balance between power, sport, and luxury. The exhaust sounds better than any other V6 including Porsche and BMW
Why the heck are people saying the cars on this list are going to skyrocket in value? It's not like the prices are going anywhere just because of some little Doug DeMuro video...
Insurance is as well. I was looking at a Maserati and it cost something like $600/mo just for insurance. So yeah, if you want your insurance to cost more than your car payment, grab one of these.
Yep. I have 2 Corvettes, a Silverado, and used to daily an A5. I traded the A5 for an RS5, and it more than doubled my total monthly insurance rate. Totally worth it, but definitely something to check before buying.
@@boogeyratt Then you are insuring the wrong way, I pay under $500 a year for my Aston Martin and another $500 a year combined for both of my Jags. Collector policy, all on agreed value, Grundy, 2,000 miles/yr pleasure use only. I mean no one's foolish enough to get one of these as a daily driver anyway so why would you ever need regular insurance.
@@Greyboxer I am assuming you did the work yourself? There is no WAY a DB9 maint costs $300/year at a shop. A regular service with oil, and a few other things like Fuel filter, air filter, etc. is what? $2,500+? And, no that is not the dealer.
I like that car but not at that price for what you get. The interior hasn’t changed in a decade. I had a RC350 and i definitely think the F is much better but not above 25k
That's actually a really solid option and would of been a great addition to the video. No one thinks of those things when they consider these options, they kind of go incognito. But by all counts that's an incredible amount of car for the money and no one should sleep on that option if they are shopping around that price tag. But the no option for a manual might deter some folks.
He owns none of these cars currently... Nor would the guy who owns some of the most coveted cars ever -- and has spent more than all of these vehicles on this list combined just on their recent maintenance -- need to inflate the value of a 10k car a couple thousand bucks before selling it
@@RidgeRunner4501For real lol. The joke would have worked if he just said "cars selling too cheap on cars & bids" but he completely missed the point of an auction website. Stupid joke
I bought a scruffy 996 C4 in the teens a few months ago. It’s freaking amazing. Like, 300hp is usable way more often than the very powerful later cars.
I've owned a 996 4S for 4 years now. Best car I ever had. Sure to be honest I dream of owning a 964 or 993 but I just can't afford them. But 996 is still a small, quite analog Porsche unlike the 991 and 992 which have all electronic systems and they're GIGANTIC. You'll enjoy the 996 tremendously and only the Porsche purists even know it's well.. a bit different. LOL.
@@detonator2112 How's the cost of maintenance been? I've been salivating over a 996 4S and can't help but be a little worried about its running/operational costs.
I had one for about 4 years, you pay a Porsche tax for parts, put i found it easy enough to work on myself. Plan on new rear tires every 10,000 miles, changing fluids religiously, was really not that bad!
there are no undervalued sports car on the market anymore. because of suvs and cancellation of many coupes and convertibles in companies lineups. everyone is paying insane money for used sports cars, many sports cares are quite literally selling for higher than the MSRP they sold at a few years ago. a few years ago you could get an alfa 4C for like 30K now they're like 55K.
@@Shrek_Holmesinflation is a hell of a thing. Average value of of single family residences (houses) doubled in less than 4 years. Kinda unavoidable when you print 80% of USD that’s ever been in circulation in less than 4 years.
6:40 Fun fact about the 135i: the 2011 model year and on came with the N55 motor, which had better reliability than the previous N54. It was also available with the 7 speed dual clutch from the E90 M3. You can actually get a dual clutch, relatively reliable, great to drive car for right around $10k.
lol !!DO NOT!! buy an Audi RS5 from before 2015. This coming from a mechanic. They have a massive wiring issue that cuts fuel. I've worked on 3 so far all with the same issue. HUGE MONEY SINK!
@@Djkhalid1234 I know about the issue, I’m just wondering why you think it’s something crazy. That’s a pretty simple issue to fix, you change a couple wires and that’s it. The car is super reliable otherwise, super strong engine and transmission
One more reason to get the RS5: Many people think that its 4.2 V8 is the same one as in the S4 and S5 4.2 V8, which is not. The RS5 V8 is basically downsized V10 from S8/RS6 that is why it revs so high (8200rpm) and it sounds amazing.
There is youtube channel VAGTechnic who is repairing these RS5's quite often and boy these engines are complicated and expensive to fix. The have so much problems that maintaining them is a big hassle.
Regarding the RS5, is the timing chain still on the wrong side of the engine like other Audi V8s? I ask because I’ve always like them and prefer to do my own wrenching but I’m not dropping the engine for a timing chain job.
Guys don't shy away from e82 125i/128i either. Still a 3.0 Not as fast as 135i however, reliable, sounds great and no issues that come with turbos it being an NA motor.
I thought he was going to talk about the 128i as the overlooked model. Everybody knew about the 135i and the heartbreak of owning one, which cast an unfair shadow over the naturally aspirated e82s.
I would buy the 128i as an alternative to a Toyota 86 car, a v6 mustang, Infiniti G/Q series, or etc small tossable 2-door manual. These little bmws handle great! An NA i6 is great!
I regret selling my 350z so much. Randomly looked the VIN up a year after I sold it and found it totaled in a junkyard. Was in mint condition when I sold it...
@@TonyBasuro I got it up to 145k miles and definitely drove the hell out of it. But it was still mint with a new clutch and could lasted forever if treated right.
Doug and hoovie, the types of guys who blow up my spot when I’m trying to scoop up a 996 911 or an ND Miata on the cheap in the fall/winter. Thanks Doug.
I remember Car & Driver tested an Audi TT RS, and it did 0-60 in 3.6 SECONDS. I know that's chump change nowadays, but back in like 2013, that's what 911 Turbos were running, and beat basically every rear-wheel drive car available, whether it was a ZR1 or a Ferarri 599 or whatever. Funny enough, I remember they tested the TT RS against the BMW 1 M (precursor to the M2 that they couldn't call the M1 for obvious reasons), and even then, 12-year old me couldn't help but think that these cars were punching waaaaaaaay above their weight, and that nobody was really acknowledging it.
Thanks for including the 996. I watched your video about them from 8(?) years ago and it got me thinking, “maybe I could afford a 911.” I have had mine for 5 years and I love it. My kids fit in the back and they love it.
I recommend them. Coincidentally, my 996 is actually seen in this video (it's the red one and the black interior shot), I owned that car for six or seven years before selling it on Cars & Bids. It didn't cost more than around $500 or less annually to maintain, it never broke down, and it has the perfect amount of power and performance. I wouldn't hesitate to buy another one if ever I'm in the market for another 911. Solid cars.
Oh that went out the door years ago because newer 911s are soaring out of reach. What you should do is jump on the 986 Boxter or 987 Cayman while you still can because they’re being eyeballed now. I’m surprised he didn’t mention them.
You’re still ok to find one. Just budget for the engine (cylinder) work. If you’re looking at a non-turbo model make sure it has 50k miles (or at least 40k) because the ones that have the IMS problems generally are the low-mileage garage queens. I say 50k because generally by that mileage, some previous owner has already had the IMS bearing fixed so you can just enjoy the car!😎👌🏾
I bought mine in 2015 for about 20k, and they're still about the same, maybe up a bit. I'd say get yourself a Carrera 2 and get a PPI done and enjoy it. It's been a fantastic car.
Yes and no. They don't have everything. A friend had one and because of a noise in a front brake, they had to swap some weird parts and this costed him 2k. For one brake. So careful.
The 8J TTRS is such a blast to drive. Only sold in the US for '12 & '13, absolute slot car in the twisties and the sound 🤤. Biggest downside is there's effectively only 1 tuner in the US, United Motorsports and it has to be bench tuned.
I would like to add the Lexus IS-F (2008-2013) and first gen F-150 Raptors, which are getting in the $20k range for reasonable/higher mileage. They are both offer NA V8s, and they provide a unique package. The IS is a compact, RWD, and reliable sedan, making it fun to drive around. As for the Raptor, you get performance along with capabilities of a truck (haul, tow, etc.).
My Additions: The SLK55 AMG is a bargain sports car because it delivers the thrill of a naturally aspirated V8 engine in a compact, nimble roadster at a price point far below most other V8-powered sports cars. Its blend of Mercedes-Benz luxury, AMG performance, and hardtop convertible versatility makes it stand out as an affordable yet exhilarating option. The CLK55 AMG, while more of a coupe than a pure sports car, still offers exceptional value with its potent V8 engine and stylish design, making it a solid choice for those who want a mix of performance and everyday usability.
Something to consider about the early ND Miatas: Yes, they made less power however the ND2 engine that came in 2019 really only makes it's extra power in the tippy top of the rev limit. The difference in power you'll feel in your seat isn't as great as the numbers suggest. Also don't sleep on the NC3, the last revision of the previous gen. It's a legit fun car to drive and again the difference in power isn't substantial (There was a recent youtube video of a drag race between the NC3 and the current ND3 Miata, and the difference was just a car length). Lol also not for nothin but I get A LOT of compliments on my 2020 RF.
I'd get the ND2 just for the tranny alone. Less fragile. While you're correct,that those 25 odd horses don't make a lot of difference, but the engine is more rev happy and has ~500rpm more to play with. Just like the 1.5litre. Also there's some nifty features, that later models get like carplayand adjustable steering, if that's something that's important.
@@hojnikb the ND2 motor is definitely an improvement and if given the choice it’s what I would choose, but since the theme of this video is sports cars that are good bargains I was just trying to point out that the ND1 is still a really fun car to drive even without the extra RPMS and power
@@james84754 Depends. I think europeans 2.0 have potention to hold their value well, give how ND3 is now only available with 1.5 only. And with tranny issues on ND1 and later post covid ND2s, there's only a few good years to be had.
I've owned my 996 factory aero kit, hardback paint matched seats, early single row ims barring, for over a decade now. After a few times of "stupid tax" for the Ramsey followers, (ie financing it)like me now, it's been mine free and clear a number of years. It was my daily driver in the spring through fall a number of years. Now at 113k she's a fun weekend 4th car, I tend to drive on dry Thursdays as I'm remote Fridays and car events. Without a doubt the best true driving experience one can have for the cost of entry. I also had a Fiata so basically an ND. My early build doesn't have TC (PSM in Porsche world), no stability control, and the gas peddle is connected to the TB by cable, not an electric signal. I never drive it and say hmm i wish i was in xyz. I always look back and appreciate the curves and taco wing. I'm really blessed to have made a dumb at the time (financing a car almost my income at the time 20-21 at the time car) now to enjoy without any financial risk, aside from an engine rebuild but that's already a bit budgeted. I'm not sure i can think of another car that's better. C5 zo6 is a great choice as well, but i don't think it's better than a c2. However 'm thinking of one to add to the stable as the cheaper to fix fun car. I'm so happy now, i didn't sell my 996 when i posted 3x over. Even my daughter likes it, so i don't care if it's a six figure car in the future, it's now a family heirloom that she'll inherit, barring any government intervention in old cars in the future.
Dude my 08 Solstice Rocks! I'm a car dealer and bought it at auction for $4500 back in 2015. Has 113k miles a Silver color and it's beautiful!! 5 speed rocks! Its underrated by ALL accounts. I'll never sell it
@@THEJIG-IS-UP I was driving behind one the other day and was really taken by its looks. It's a car that was sort of under my radar for a long time, it just doesn't have the sports car credentials or prestige., but maybe it should. The GXP models can have up to 290 horsepower with a tune. And they're still pretty affordable. I already have too many cars, but it got me thinking!
@@alangil40 if.. you're buying to resell nope but if... You're looking for a top notch car ya can't beat it. I've owned lots of sports cars and it's my favorite.
@@orangecayman520heard only really issues are the diff overheating, easy fix with fluid, and the water leaking into the hood. Otherwise solid. Did I miss anything?
I JUST posted about this! I have a convertible in Firesand Orange. It's one of the most unique cars on the road. Any time I bring it to a car show, it gets tons of attention bc it's always the only one. And the earlier gen ones are very affordable. I'm hoping these gems finally get recognized in the coming years and their value goes up.
Im glad to see this make the list. I had one not too long ago and it was an amazing car that deserves more respect than it gets here in the states. Pretty sure it was quicker around a track than the Cayman and R8 V8 that came out at the time.
Fun fact: the 1999-2000 C5 FRC (fixed roof coupe) was a production car that PRECEDED the Z06 which used that FRC body starting in 2001. So actually the Z06 body construction was based off of an earlier base model. It was more rigid than both the coupe (removable targa) and convertible. The FRC/Z06 had the upper halo brace from the coupe and lower tub brace from the convertible. The C6 Z06 was different. Base models could not be had in a FRC nor preceded it.
the cayman is like a vw golf R just for more money. thing is, you dont get that porsche status boost for the cayman though because everyone knows its a "lame" porsche compared to the others
I drive an E82 128i convertible, and it's a fantastic experience. Quick (naturally aspirated), tossible, open air and fairly reliable. It's the classic small BMW experience in a modern car!
@@Oishiilicious to be fair though - all 996 and 997 end up there eventually. 991 had their share of engine problems, especially the GT3 gen1. All of them are prone to end of shelf-life at around 200.000km +/- X.000 km. Though based on what I've seen on youtube and read on forums, cars that only been driven in warm climate seem to not have this problem. It seems to primarily impact those cars driven in cold climates (or where there is seasonal climate). So I wouldn't say it is a 100% correlation. I drove mine to 210.000 km and it had no bore score when I sold it. 987.1S.
I love my 135i 🥰 I bought it because of your 1M video, Doug. Did all sorts of mods to it, and it TRANSFORMED the car. It handles like a dream, probably better than a stock 1M, but it hangs with modern bmws on upgraded turbos & clutch. Runs high 11s at the 1/4 mile on 93oct. Very practical & comfortable, good backseat headroom compared to the TTRs. Looks amazing, even after 4 years of ownership. Never getting rid of this car!!
2014 Dodge Charger RT with the MERCEDES BENZ transmission.I own this car its amazing.All of the cars he mentioned will have very high mechanic bills or mechanics in America might not even want to work on them.Good luck finding parts at a junkyard with any of these cars.Chargers,Challengers,and Rams are EVERYWHERE.
Boxster / Cayman 987.2 S definitely missing on this list You get all this easily in the 30s (in Europe)! - naturally aspirated, great sounding engine in the 300 hp sweetspot - manual - Mid engine - basically 997 interior - no more ims issues in the .2 - only about 7,500 987.2 Boxster S built, likely even less Cayman S
That's my car! 😀 Okay, I should say "That's my old car!" - the Orient Red 996 seen in two stills, and its black interior seen in one still, is my old car that I sold on Cars & Bids. I agree with Doug's sentiments on the 996, I owned the car for six or seven years and absolutely loved every moment of it. It gives you a true Porsche 911 experience at a fraction of the cost of any other 911. I wouldn't hesitate to buy another one if ever I'm in the market for a 911 again.
Couldn’t agree more on the V12 Aston’s. The engines and transmissions are super reliable and you can’t get anything near as powerful or as rare for anything like the price they’re going for now.
Im not sure if this comment is meant to be snarky, but if so, thats a dumb comment. These are all pretty common vehicles, so of course they will be on Cars & Bids lol. After all, they are undervalued sports cars.
I would argue the CLK500 base deserves to be on this list, great 5.0L v8, relatively good mileage, good steering and handling and flys down the road without protest. They came from a time where Mercedes was building cars to last. All the little features like the a/c vent in the center console to keep things cool and the a/c charcoal filter are actually usable. I personally love mine and picked it up for $10,500 2 months ago with 50k miles. An absolute undervalue. In today’s money it’d be over $65k.
I did..?! HR (07-08) so revs to 7,500 RPM, 60K now 68K miles, mint. Added lightweight Kojin's wrapped in Conti ECS, replaced Brembos while adding SS brake lines, dropped in some aFe filters (plural because HR) and she's a screamer. Not a single squeak or rattle. Paid equivalent of 14K in Aug 2021, solved the rock chips myself with an OEM touch pen.
Missed a good one. Jaguar Ftype V8S or V8R. Very reliable. 495hp to 550hp stock but all models have the same engine just different tune. As a $1500 tune and you're at 600hp in a beautiful drop top. Change the supercharger pulleys and you're at 675hp. Not quite as refined as my Aston but it is quicker. Handles almost as well too. Sadly no sick shift though.
I will keep saying this even though no one will listen. The 2010 and up Jaguar XKR's are absolute bargains for the experience. You get more power (510hp) out of that than you do in all of the cars listed. For a car that started out at over 100 grand and is now in the low 20s, it's stupid that people don't talk about it.
You'll never see videos or comments about cars that are ACTUALLY underrated/undervalued, especially not from Doug. He's gotta appeal to the guys that think miata is the end all be all. Jay Leno said it best "buy what you like and theres a good chance someone else will like it in the future too". This is how I ended up with a SVT focus and Volvo C30 combo
I bought an ‘11 XKR 5.0L in 2019 for $22k and still consider it the best bang-for-buck I’ve ever gotten in a car. I flew down to Texas to buy it, then drove it on a 2,000 mile road trip back to Idaho. An amazing experience I recommend anyone to try someday when they’re able. I specifically wanted a modern-ish 400+ hp V8, RWD Coupe with heated seats (bonus points if they were cooled too) and a hatchback/liftback for $30k or less. By that weirdly-specific criteria, I could only really choose from either the XKR and the C6 Corvette. (The Aston V8 Vantage was a bit outside my price range at the time, as was the C6 Z06) I locally test drove a couple C6’s and an earlier XKR with the supercharged 4.2L. The C6 was nimble and fun with its manual, but it creaked and squeaked a lot, whereas the XKR felt much more solid and substantial while feeling equally as fast. (The hatch area was also significantly larger) In the end I decided the way-less-common XKR was the car for me and that’s when I discovered that I could afford the significantly more powerful 5.0L version and it was a done deal. (Plus it had cooled seats!) I ended up modifying and absolutely loving that car, pulley/intake/exhaust/tuned with around 650hp at the crank and it remained reliable as a daily driver with real road presence everywhere it went. I eventually replaced it with an F-Type R but actually found I preferred the XKR in the end….then I realized how much I missed having a manual and a removable roof so I sold that and got myself an ND2 RF Club Miata with the Brembo/BBS/Recaro package and am loving every second of it.
@tslexus1989 I own a 2014 XKR. After seeing the astons on the list.... figured the Jag would make it. I've owned mine since 2020. Drove to Texas from Cali and trailered it back. Put about 15k miles on it in 4 years had 65k when i bought it now at 80k. Drive it spiritedly every time I'm in her. No issues besides a coolant leak I spotted before it got big. Exhaust, tune, and pulley has me at about 650hp crank. She's a beast and sounds remarkable. Every time I drive it, I get thumbs up. Beautiful and sexy car.
I've owned a 2015 Vantage for several years already as my weekender. I just cannot imagine another supercar that would have it's maintenance/repairs any easier to handle. The local shop who handles my AM and specializes in German and Italian brands agrees.
20k for a Miata vs 20k for a c5 z06 is absolutely a no brainer. The z06 is so much more visceral of an experience, its reliable and gives you way more of an “exotic” sports car feel.
I had the choice, and took the nd Miata. Tires alone are triple the price on the Vette. Both are great cars, but unless you have a racetrack, you’ll never really be able to use the Vette. My Miata makes every commute fun.
@@stephenbacks3100Drip rails and other water intrusions are getting to be a total PITA on the C5Z if you want to daily/commute in them. The rails are NLA, 100% will fail in keeping water out. They like to crack when trying to remove them to reseal. Big road trip guy and sadly just gave up after 4 years. If weekend/track toy, C5Z easy choice.
I know Doug has no love for anything that Lexus has ever put out but I thought I would mention the Lexus IS F. The Lexus IS F was made from 2008 to 2014 and you will love the naturally aspirated 416 hp V8 that is under that hood. You can buy one for about 25k and still have almost all the modern features of most of the newer cars today minus all the stupid nanny features built into all of the newer cars today and you won't have to worry about them leaving you stranded because they are built with high-quality parts and they sound just sound incredible. Its only drawback is that it doesn't come with a manual transmission they are comfortable and reliable and they don't look bad that bad compared to many other cars out there. They only made about 5k of them worldwide during their entire 6-year run so they are definitely a rare car that you will not see many of them on the road. They do turn heads as I have owned one and have had many people come up to me whenever I was stopped somewhere just to ask me about it and ask me if I wanted to sell it which I would never do. I really like these cars a lot. I paid about 20k for mine with about 50k miles on it. It now has over 130k miles on it and I could probably sell it for more than I paid for mine right now. It hasn't cost me lots of money to maintain other than regular maintenance and it has not had any problems at all. I have no problem driving that car across the country if I wanted to because I know It will make there no problems and that I would be comfortable and that it would get me there way ahead of schedule because these cars are very fast with their 0 to 60 at 4.5 seconds which is still way faster than most newer cars made today. and there is a small aftermarket for these cars giving you the opportunity to boost that engine up to 800 hp and still be very reliable compared to other cars in that class and it won't completely break your bank account to do it. You will be happy that it is a four-door because the rear seat is fairly usable for smaller adults and those two extra doors will save you lots of money in insurance payments compared to its two-door version RC F models. Doug must have had earplugs on when he test-drove these cars because their exhaust note is nothing you would ever expect to be coming from a Lexus and it's intoxicating. Maybe one of the best stock-sounding exhaust notes I have ever heard and it changes your entire driving experience tenfold. I believe these cars are a bargain for 25k and they are starting to creep up in price for the less used lower milage ones of course which can sell for as high as 50k in that condition. I highly recommend you go test drive one before you write it off as being a car your grandfather would drive. They are anything but that and you can't beat the bang for the buck you will be getting along with the rare reliability that will come with a car that offers that much performance at that price range. They look sporty enough stock and there is an aftermarket for them that you can use to make these cars look and perform that much more sporty to fit in with other cars of this class of cars. It's a win-win no matter what you plan on doing with it. If Doug was blindfolded and given a ride in an IS F, he would be very surprised to find out that he was sitting in a Lexus when he took that blindfold off. That's because he has a negative bias on Lexus vehicles which has blinded him to believe that Lexus has ever put out a sports car at all. He is definitely wrong about the IS F and you will see that too once you go and drive one for yourself.
@@GanG914 many italian enthusiast import their cars from germany because are way cheaper there, in italy the car market (expecially jdm) is crazy, everything is overpriced
As the proud owner of a 996.1, I LOVE the car. I have a high-mileage example that needed some TLC for some of the interior and exterior trim, but I'm slowly restoring it Well worth the money, it's my daily driver and it's a blast to drive
Yeah. Like all boxers, they are squeezing so much engine between the frame rails that you have to drop the engine out to do anything bigger than an oil change.
I own a 12 year old Porsche and I recommend adding $5K to save on top of a used purchase just in case it needs repairs or for potential maintenance which could be costly.
Watching a Doug DeMuro undervalued used sports car video and seeing the car you just bought (2018 ND1 Miata) for less than what Doug says? Priceless. And no Doug, people do actually point their fingers at it and say "Oh wow, that's a really cool car!" - especially when there are 20 of them driving around Puget Sound ;)
Almost everything he named had insane reliability issues. They aren’t exactly “under valued”, the market is properly valuing them when to take the reliability into account
About half of them, the Corvette, viper, Miata, and 350z are all pretty reliable cars. Although the z car could have issues because of how previous owners treated them. They have a much higher chance of having lived a rough life.
@@AnythingEvil78 Nothing German is ok from the past 30 years. Aside from maybe Porsche. They're designed on the principle of _more complicated, more better._ And that is always bound to fail. Porsche sometimes simplifies to add lightness and speed, but I'm sure it absolutely drives their engineers insane.
@@herranton they can get annoying electrical issues but the drivetrain is solid. I track my cars and my TT RS hasn't broken anything, my previous two WRX's were constantly breaking things.
LOL C5 might have cheap interior but the LS7 is about as simple and reliable as it gets, paired with a T56 trans you can't beat that thing. 350Z other than Cam & Crank Position Sensors randomly failing is pretty stout and a Miata? Please that's as reliable as it gets, even the 996 once you fix the IMS it's another car that'll easily get to 200,000 miles.
the ND Miata with 2.0 184hp is special because this engine won't be available anymore soon. Basically the ND Miata is like a ferrari or porsche out of the 70s / 80s :) It's faster than the first 911 / carrera Sport.
The E82 1 series is the bees knees. I had a 128i and a 135i with FBO and and LSD. They were so much fun to drive. I have an F87 M2 now but I’d love to own a 1M one of these days
How the hell is a 350z undervalued? The drift tax has these things way overvalued. And not sure where you're finding a nice one for $10k. Maybe if it's an auto that no one wants. The beaten up, ragged on manuals are asking $10k. Can't find a half decent one for under $15k which is ridiculous considering you could get really clean versions for $8k 6 years ago. The C5 is overvalued too
ok then get in a time machine to 6 years ago 350z were 5k all day long back then too 12k for a 300hp rwd manual is still 'worth' it...yes boy racer-style cars from 20 years ago are harder to find in clean condition hence the price, tale as old as time
Thanks Doug, This is a pretty good list, with one glaring omission - the Lexus RCF. This car is much rarer than the LC everyone lusts over. It handles better, performs better, is more practical as a daily driver, has the bulletproof 2UR-GSE naturally aspirated V8 and is a complete bargain 😎
My first thought upon seeing the title of this video was, "Oh, like the C5 Z06, I assume?" Biggest bang for your buck, IMHO, and the best-looking Corvette since the early '60s. Not to mention, cheap to maintain and fix because it's a Chevy. If I were in the market for a weekend toy sports car, that'd be the one I'd buy.
I owned an '08 135i in my early 20s. Man I loved that car, also had an aftermarket 1 M style bumper which greatly improved the front fascia. Water pump went around 60k, which was a fairly easy plug and play job I did myself. Shortly thereafter, the notorious high pressure fuel pump started acting up. Putting the vehicle into limp mode whenever I got on it. Switched out the pump, regular pump, injectors, nothing fixed it. Wrecked it before I was able to fully resolve the issue.
Seeing that E82 135i gave be me PTSD. I had a 2011 335i with the same n55 motor for 3 years and had nothing and I repeat nothing but issues. God I hated that goddamn thing so much.
Worth it to jump up to a 370z. Or at least go for a 2007-2008 350. VQ35DE is a rejigged Maxima engine, VQ35HR was truly intended for the FM chassis & had revisions to 80% of engine parts. 370z shortened wheelbase by 4”, widened track width, + 30-70HP over 350z, and a lot of fundamental flaws fixed from the debut FM-chassis cars. The prices aren’t 350z level, but far from expensive these days, and with 09-19(?) for production you won’t have trouble finding one.
I've been thinking about a Aston Martin V8 for a daily driver. I do about 200 highway miles a week, but I'm just concerned with repairs and maintenance. I did see your video on it which was a great!
I was hoping you would mention the bargains you can get on Mercedes AMG C63S from 2016-2020. I have a 2018, and its by far the most fun I have had driving anything.
987 Cayman and Boxster. Better driving experience than a 996, more reliable, nicer looking inside and out, and less money. You are really just paying to say you have a 911.
Especially the 997.2 from 2009 - 20012. Compared to the 997.1: . Increased BHP . Eiminated the IMS bearing. . Introduced Direct Fuel Injection (DFI) for better throttle response, lower emissions, and better gas milage. . Although I prefer the 6-speed manual transmission, they replaced the Tiptronic automatic transmission with the much more responsive PDK. . Changed cylinder liners to prevent bore scoring in the "S" models.
Before this video, I actually searched the cars as mentioned missing only the Viper and tt...I ended up deciding on the 996. I got an early 98 build with a new rebuilt and upgraded big bore motor. No regret as it's true that every 911 series WILL appreciate as you drive once it tanks for a bit. Monterey Car Week was an eye opener with the amount of 911 that were present driving around. Werks Reunion, there were 2 dealership showcasing the 996 series.
The 350Z is to the 300ZX what the RX-8 is to the FD RX-7. They’re both the 2000’s follow-up of the absolute legend from the 90’s, and they’ll simply never be able to tackle that immovable 90’s nostalgia. It’s happened to all of them; the R35 vs R34, Mk5 Supra vs Mk4, New NSX vs the original… The love and pop culture surrounding those cars peaked with the 90’s generations, and nothing will ever top them.
@@rob_does_stuff They could try their absolute hardest to design something more beautiful than the 90’s ones, but it’s an impossible task. It’s not just the cars on their own, it’s the pop culture and nostalgia surrounding them that boosts them up to heights that are impossible to replicate. Lots of things in life have a “golden era”, where it peaks and is never that good again. This is what’s happened to car design. When you go up against nostalgia like that, nostalgia always wins.
one I think should also be on the list is a 2007-2014 AMG C63. They can be had for pretty cheap these says, if you can find one with the heads re-done they are keepers!
One that I'm always surprised how cheap they're selling for is the Chrysler Crossfire. I know the styling is love/hate but I think they're cool. It's basically a mercedes slk underneath. Lots have low mileage and are often in really good condition, at least in my part of Canada. I've seen them for as little as $5k cad, though the more desirable trim/drivetrain can be a fair bit more.
350z is such a car. If you are into tuning it's a monster. Even base is still really good. But if you can tune with a supercharger or turbos, it's insane.
My girlfriend's uncle had one in Toronto, we were going to miss a train to New York and for some reason he gave us a lift, ignoring all speed limits and driving on hard shoulders etc. We got there in good time.. Crazy fast car and felt so solid on the road
Your description of Vipers as big engines mounted to chassis with some body work thrown on top is perfect. Horrible panel gaps, chintzy interior, etc. But what a car!
That's a great list. A few pretty obvious cars, and a couple more obscure ones, too. The ND Miata, while not fast, feels faster than it is. But it's not exactly slow either, even the ND1. You won't win drag races vs. obviously faster cars, but it's quick and it handles very well on the road, even with the stock suspension. I daily drove one for over four years and I'll probably buy another ND someday.
The cars after this video 📈
Yeah, I’ll run out and buy a 350z, a TT, a Miata and a 135i. Said no one ever
@@tommyd3257 Each car you mentioned has a cult-like following..
I had a 2006 G35 bought it at about 30k miles. I loved that car so much. Thought it had the perfect balance between power, sport, and luxury. The exhaust sounds better than any other V6 including Porsche and BMW
Why the heck are people saying the cars on this list are going to skyrocket in value? It's not like the prices are going anywhere just because of some little Doug DeMuro video...
@@staywoke2198 while I agree that V6 sounds great, go listen to a GT4, GT3, or especially the RS versions of those. There is no comparison..
As long as you remember you might be buying a $200K car for $40K but its maintenance is still of a $200K car :)
Insurance is as well. I was looking at a Maserati and it cost something like $600/mo just for insurance. So yeah, if you want your insurance to cost more than your car payment, grab one of these.
Yep. I have 2 Corvettes, a Silverado, and used to daily an A5. I traded the A5 for an RS5, and it more than doubled my total monthly insurance rate. Totally worth it, but definitely something to check before buying.
@@boogeyratt Then you are insuring the wrong way, I pay under $500 a year for my Aston Martin and another $500 a year combined for both of my Jags. Collector policy, all on agreed value, Grundy, 2,000 miles/yr pleasure use only. I mean no one's foolish enough to get one of these as a daily driver anyway so why would you ever need regular insurance.
My 2011 DB9 cost me $300 in annual maintenance and $912/yr to insure.
@@Greyboxer I am assuming you did the work yourself? There is no WAY a DB9 maint costs $300/year at a shop. A regular service with oil, and a few other things like Fuel filter, air filter, etc. is what? $2,500+? And, no that is not the dealer.
Not undervalued anymore 😢
And it’s only been 12 minutes. Imagine in a year
Seeing the last 90's Honda left cheap getting high recently. The del sol.
Haha, Doug is the Warren Buffet of cars. When he “buys in” on undervalued cars, the market caps increases 😂
I'm tired of hearing this comment over and over.
skip to the end buy that car QUICK and make millions. the video is 30 minutes old as of this comment
Doug would never tell you this but you can get a Lexus RCF for 35-40k and they’re an absolute riot to drive and bulletproof reliable.
That or the ISF are both solid choices. Those would both be on top of my list if I was buying a car.
autotragic tho
@@kuebbyIS 200 or SC430 also are still very valuable like IS F.
I like that car but not at that price for what you get. The interior hasn’t changed in a decade. I had a RC350 and i definitely think the F is much better but not above 25k
That's actually a really solid option and would of been a great addition to the video. No one thinks of those things when they consider these options, they kind of go incognito. But by all counts that's an incredible amount of car for the money and no one should sleep on that option if they are shopping around that price tag. But the no option for a manual might deter some folks.
Doug the type of guy to say a cars undervalued to sell his car for more
Its doug he wouldnt say aomethings undervalued just for money.
@@vespionblitz8816 yeah used car dealers have a such a great reputation of honesty.
@@vespionblitz8816Hahaha yeah right! You've never heard of market manipulation clearly.
He owns none of these cars currently... Nor would the guy who owns some of the most coveted cars ever -- and has spent more than all of these vehicles on this list combined just on their recent maintenance -- need to inflate the value of a 10k car a couple thousand bucks before selling it
@@vespionblitz8816 "Its doug he wouldnt say aomethings undervalued just for money." I agree 100%!!! Ed Bolian, on the other hand . . .
I contacted a guy about a RS5 for 22k I offered 20 and he laughed. Said something about Doug demuro
35 can get you the rs7 with low miles.
Doug is the kind of guy to drop a video like this when he sees some cars being re-listed multiple times on Cars&Bids
A bit too long? Every car on cars and bids is up for the exact same amount of time
Mr fun at parties@@RidgeRunner4501
@@philm2217 it just isn’t a good joke 💀
😂😂😂
@@RidgeRunner4501For real lol. The joke would have worked if he just said "cars selling too cheap on cars & bids" but he completely missed the point of an auction website. Stupid joke
As an 8j TTRS owner Doug really nailed this car. If you view the RS on its own and judge it blindly it is criminally underrated.
TT RS has more value than Impreza WRX 1994.
Here "were" undervalued sports cars...
These comments are so dumb
@@harivalive just learn today how whales work?
I bought a scruffy 996 C4 in the teens a few months ago. It’s freaking amazing. Like, 300hp is usable way more often than the very powerful later cars.
I've owned a 996 4S for 4 years now. Best car I ever had. Sure to be honest I dream of owning a 964 or 993 but I just can't afford them. But 996 is still a small, quite analog Porsche unlike the 991 and 992 which have all electronic systems and they're GIGANTIC. You'll enjoy the 996 tremendously and only the Porsche purists even know it's well.. a bit different. LOL.
@@detonator2112 How's the cost of maintenance been? I've been salivating over a 996 4S and can't help but be a little worried about its running/operational costs.
I had one for about 4 years, you pay a Porsche tax for parts, put i found it easy enough to work on myself. Plan on new rear tires every 10,000 miles, changing fluids religiously, was really not that bad!
4S is awesome bc it comes with the wider fenders. Add an x50 front bumper conversion and it's drool worthy everyday for me.
Right now? You mean before the video right? Guess gotta travel back in time...
there are no undervalued sports car on the market anymore. because of suvs and cancellation of many coupes and convertibles in companies lineups. everyone is paying insane money for used sports cars, many sports cares are quite literally selling for higher than the MSRP they sold at a few years ago. a few years ago you could get an alfa 4C for like 30K now they're like 55K.
Only 80k ppl have watched the video so gotta hurry up n buy
dougs market manipulation
@@Shrek_Holmesinflation is a hell of a thing. Average value of of single family residences (houses) doubled in less than 4 years. Kinda unavoidable when you print 80% of USD that’s ever been in circulation in less than 4 years.
6:40 Fun fact about the 135i: the 2011 model year and on came with the N55 motor, which had better reliability than the previous N54. It was also available with the 7 speed dual clutch from the E90 M3. You can actually get a dual clutch, relatively reliable, great to drive car for right around $10k.
DONT TALK ABOUT THE ND MIATA PLEASE
welp...
yea because the miata is a real "hidden gem"
F* the ND Miata
@@G1lgamesj I mean....if you're into that sort of thing. Just make sure the exhaust is cooled off.
Yea I'm looking to get one too soon haha
lol !!DO NOT!! buy an Audi RS5 from before 2015. This coming from a mechanic. They have a massive wiring issue that cuts fuel. I've worked on 3 so far all with the same issue. HUGE MONEY SINK!
@Djkhalid1234 What about the b7 rs4 :-) hope You like them love mine ❤️
I’m also a mechanic. Buy the RS5. It’s awesome
I've been wondering why I don't see them as often anymore.
@@TheCompyshop read all the Audi forums about the wiring harness fuel issue lol
@@Djkhalid1234 I know about the issue, I’m just wondering why you think it’s something crazy. That’s a pretty simple issue to fix, you change a couple wires and that’s it. The car is super reliable otherwise, super strong engine and transmission
One more reason to get the RS5: Many people think that its 4.2 V8 is the same one as in the S4 and S5 4.2 V8, which is not. The RS5 V8 is basically downsized V10 from S8/RS6 that is why it revs so high (8200rpm) and it sounds amazing.
yes but no manual in the rs5
So many have been mistreated. Do nice ones actually go for decent prices?
There is youtube channel VAGTechnic who is repairing these RS5's quite often and boy these engines are complicated and expensive to fix. The have so much problems that maintaining them is a big hassle.
Regarding the RS5, is the timing chain still on the wrong side of the engine like other Audi V8s? I ask because I’ve always like them and prefer to do my own wrenching but I’m not dropping the engine for a timing chain job.
@@edd7397 an Audi performance engine is complicated ... Surely you jest
The Corvette C5 Z06 is without a doubt the most performance for the money at $20K to $30K nothing comes close for a total performance package.
Anyone else enjoy these sunday vids more than the actual reviews?
No
Definitely, especially the podcasts
Guys don't shy away from e82 125i/128i either. Still a 3.0 Not as fast as 135i however, reliable, sounds great and no issues that come with turbos it being an NA motor.
I thought he was going to talk about the 128i as the overlooked model. Everybody knew about the 135i and the heartbreak of owning one, which cast an unfair shadow over the naturally aspirated e82s.
can't some of these be modded with different intake and a tune for more power?
@hojnikb they can, double disa intake manifold and a tune is 270bhp.. go catless headers and you're scratching 300bhp
I would buy the 128i as an alternative to a Toyota 86 car, a v6 mustang, Infiniti G/Q series, or etc small tossable 2-door manual.
These little bmws handle great! An NA i6 is great!
Would you say that the N55 variant is still unreliable? I've seen mixed reviews but it's the 1st gen of that engine... @@6mtzhp55
I regret selling my 350z so much. Randomly looked the VIN up a year after I sold it and found it totaled in a junkyard. Was in mint condition when I sold it...
Damn lol
Not as cool but same exact thing with me, with my gti. Personally I’d rather the boys use it for parts rather than wrapped around a tree
You under drove it. Hope ypu oversold it.
@@TonyBasuro I got it up to 145k miles and definitely drove the hell out of it. But it was still mint with a new clutch and could lasted forever if treated right.
@@TonyBasuro And you know that how? lmao
Doug and hoovie, the types of guys who blow up my spot when I’m trying to scoop up a 996 911 or an ND Miata on the cheap in the fall/winter. Thanks Doug.
Doug is the type of a guy who would tell you a car is bad then buy it for himself
Yup Lamborghini countach was the best one, he did nothing but bash it for years…now he says it’s the best.
This guy has seen the Ford GT video.
@@jaredchampagne2752 buy low, sell high
@@yashthegamer4250 that’s what happens when your a follower, you get mislead
If he had feathers, he’d be a hummingbird……
I remember Car & Driver tested an Audi TT RS, and it did 0-60 in 3.6 SECONDS. I know that's chump change nowadays, but back in like 2013, that's what 911 Turbos were running, and beat basically every rear-wheel drive car available, whether it was a ZR1 or a Ferarri 599 or whatever.
Funny enough, I remember they tested the TT RS against the BMW 1 M (precursor to the M2 that they couldn't call the M1 for obvious reasons), and even then, 12-year old me couldn't help but think that these cars were punching waaaaaaaay above their weight, and that nobody was really acknowledging it.
Ah………let’s cut the fat…….HOOOOORSESHIT !!!
@@BKF0 in 2011, my pcar turbo 0 to 60 was and still is 2.9 sec
Thanks for including the 996. I watched your video about them from 8(?) years ago and it got me thinking, “maybe I could afford a 911.” I have had mine for 5 years and I love it. My kids fit in the back and they love it.
I recommend them. Coincidentally, my 996 is actually seen in this video (it's the red one and the black interior shot), I owned that car for six or seven years before selling it on Cars & Bids. It didn't cost more than around $500 or less annually to maintain, it never broke down, and it has the perfect amount of power and performance. I wouldn't hesitate to buy another one if ever I'm in the market for another 911. Solid cars.
Surprised the BMW Z4 didn't make the list, it's a great car and the E85 can be picked up at great prices now
There goes my hopes of getting a 996
Oh that went out the door years ago because newer 911s are soaring out of reach. What you should do is jump on the 986 Boxter or 987 Cayman while you still can because they’re being eyeballed now. I’m surprised he didn’t mention them.
@@80PercentAshamedOfU 987 Boxsters and Caymans are almost half the price of the 996, more practical and have the better interior of the 997.
You’re still ok to find one. Just budget for the engine (cylinder) work.
If you’re looking at a non-turbo model make sure it has 50k miles (or at least 40k) because the ones that have the IMS problems generally are the low-mileage garage queens.
I say 50k because generally by that mileage, some previous owner has already had the IMS bearing fixed so you can just enjoy the car!😎👌🏾
@@Sovereign86 thanks bro. Good to know
I bought mine in 2015 for about 20k, and they're still about the same, maybe up a bit. I'd say get yourself a Carrera 2 and get a PPI done and enjoy it. It's been a fantastic car.
The nice thing about the DB9 is that it used Ford parts so if you need to get something, buy the part yourself through Ford and not AM.
@@seraphimvalkyrin4543 true
Yes and no. They don't have everything. A friend had one and because of a noise in a front brake, they had to swap some weird parts and this costed him 2k. For one brake. So careful.
The 8J TTRS is such a blast to drive. Only sold in the US for '12 & '13, absolute slot car in the twisties and the sound 🤤. Biggest downside is there's effectively only 1 tuner in the US, United Motorsports and it has to be bench tuned.
I would like to add the Lexus IS-F (2008-2013) and first gen F-150 Raptors, which are getting in the $20k range for reasonable/higher mileage. They are both offer NA V8s, and they provide a unique package. The IS is a compact, RWD, and reliable sedan, making it fun to drive around. As for the Raptor, you get performance along with capabilities of a truck (haul, tow, etc.).
C5 Z06 is my attainable super car dream lol
super car? get real lol
The Corvette has always been the working man's super car. Make it happen.
You wont be disappointed if you find it for Doug's mentioned price
Get a Chevy camero SS, same power train (ls3 v8) , and wayyy cheaper!
@@TheDarkPacific hell yeah bro. C5’s are sick.
My Additions: The SLK55 AMG is a bargain sports car because it delivers the thrill of a naturally aspirated V8 engine in a compact, nimble roadster at a price point far below most other V8-powered sports cars. Its blend of Mercedes-Benz luxury, AMG performance, and hardtop convertible versatility makes it stand out as an affordable yet exhilarating option. The CLK55 AMG, while more of a coupe than a pure sports car, still offers exceptional value with its potent V8 engine and stylish design, making it a solid choice for those who want a mix of performance and everyday usability.
Something to consider about the early ND Miatas: Yes, they made less power however the ND2 engine that came in 2019 really only makes it's extra power in the tippy top of the rev limit. The difference in power you'll feel in your seat isn't as great as the numbers suggest. Also don't sleep on the NC3, the last revision of the previous gen. It's a legit fun car to drive and again the difference in power isn't substantial (There was a recent youtube video of a drag race between the NC3 and the current ND3 Miata, and the difference was just a car length).
Lol also not for nothin but I get A LOT of compliments on my 2020 RF.
I'd get the ND2 just for the tranny alone. Less fragile.
While you're correct,that those 25 odd horses don't make a lot of difference, but the engine is more rev happy and has ~500rpm more to play with. Just like the 1.5litre.
Also there's some nifty features, that later models get like carplayand adjustable steering, if that's something that's important.
@@hojnikb the ND2 motor is definitely an improvement and if given the choice it’s what I would choose, but since the theme of this video is sports cars that are good bargains I was just trying to point out that the ND1 is still a really fun car to drive even without the extra RPMS and power
@gwpeoples it's not undervalued tho
@@james84754 Depends. I think europeans 2.0 have potention to hold their value well, give how ND3 is now only available with 1.5 only. And with tranny issues on ND1 and later post covid ND2s, there's only a few good years to be had.
I've owned my 996 factory aero kit, hardback paint matched seats, early single row ims barring, for over a decade now. After a few times of "stupid tax" for the Ramsey followers, (ie financing it)like me now, it's been mine free and clear a number of years. It was my daily driver in the spring through fall a number of years. Now at 113k she's a fun weekend 4th car, I tend to drive on dry Thursdays as I'm remote Fridays and car events. Without a doubt the best true driving experience one can have for the cost of entry. I also had a Fiata so basically an ND. My early build doesn't have TC (PSM in Porsche world), no stability control, and the gas peddle is connected to the TB by cable, not an electric signal. I never drive it and say hmm i wish i was in xyz. I always look back and appreciate the curves and taco wing. I'm really blessed to have made a dumb at the time (financing a car almost my income at the time 20-21 at the time car) now to enjoy without any financial risk, aside from an engine rebuild but that's already a bit budgeted. I'm not sure i can think of another car that's better. C5 zo6 is a great choice as well, but i don't think it's better than a c2. However 'm thinking of one to add to the stable as the cheaper to fix fun car. I'm so happy now, i didn't sell my 996 when i posted 3x over. Even my daughter likes it, so i don't care if it's a six figure car in the future, it's now a family heirloom that she'll inherit, barring any government intervention in old cars in the future.
Dude my 08 Solstice Rocks! I'm a car dealer and bought it at auction for $4500 back in 2015. Has 113k miles a Silver color and it's beautiful!! 5 speed rocks! Its underrated by ALL accounts. I'll never sell it
@@THEJIG-IS-UP I was driving behind one the other day and was really taken by its looks. It's a car that was sort of under my radar for a long time, it just doesn't have the sports car credentials or prestige., but maybe it should. The GXP models can have up to 290 horsepower with a tune. And they're still pretty affordable. I already have too many cars, but it got me thinking!
@@alangil40 if.. you're buying to resell nope but if... You're looking for a top notch car ya can't beat it. I've owned lots of sports cars and it's my favorite.
@@THEJIG-IS-UP owned a 2008 GXP black solstice brand new for 6 years. Awesome car, fast, turned heads everywhere and ran well!
Love my Jag F Type R. Surprised how few of these I see. Even at Cars and Coffee in Houston.
Super undervalued. Had an F-Type SVR for a couple years and the F-Type R is probably 85-90% of the same experience for literally half the cost
Love my F-type R convertible....got the VelocityAP tune 650HP can't be beat
@@orangecayman520heard only really issues are the diff overheating, easy fix with fluid, and the water leaking into the hood. Otherwise solid. Did I miss anything?
I JUST posted about this! I have a convertible in Firesand Orange. It's one of the most unique cars on the road. Any time I bring it to a car show, it gets tons of attention bc it's always the only one. And the earlier gen ones are very affordable. I'm hoping these gems finally get recognized in the coming years and their value goes up.
@galazoulay8498 the coolant y tubing is a notoriously common part that goes bad. I replaced it when I bought my 2014.
Doug is spot on in almost all of his videos. He's a genuine car guy and rarely makes a bad video. Always enjoyable and great advice again.
5:40 I recommend the Audi TT RS. Had one for two years. Super fun and gooood sound.
Im glad to see this make the list. I had one not too long ago and it was an amazing car that deserves more respect than it gets here in the states. Pretty sure it was quicker around a track than the Cayman and R8 V8 that came out at the time.
I love the 300ZX from '90-'96. They move and hold the road really well.. The Twin Turbo version is just Icing on the cake..
We need more of this Doug Demuro. More of this type of videos looking for excellent value propositions
Aaaand these are all about to be overvalued, thanks Doug🙃
Fun fact: the 1999-2000 C5 FRC (fixed roof coupe) was a production car that PRECEDED the Z06 which used that FRC body starting in 2001. So actually the Z06 body construction was based off of an earlier base model. It was more rigid than both the coupe (removable targa) and convertible. The FRC/Z06 had the upper halo brace from the coupe and lower tub brace from the convertible.
The C6 Z06 was different. Base models could not be had in a FRC nor preceded it.
2004 986 Boxster S is a GREAT car!...such a steal
What about the bearing issues?
@@Platos-Den no issue on most of these cars. Cost of a new / replacement bearing isn’t that much. Do it when you need a clutch.
Glad he didn't bring up the Cayman, don't need prices going up
I need a 987 one day. Hopefully he never brings it up 😂
Shutuppp shhhh
Wow good idea I’m about to buy out all the caymans thank you if you want to rent one let me know
Bad news, the 987.2 CS already went up. Mine's up $8-10k since I bought it and you're going to need more than that to take it from me.
the cayman is like a vw golf R just for more money. thing is, you dont get that porsche status boost for the cayman though because everyone knows its a "lame" porsche compared to the others
funny how Doug really need to put a disclaimer at the start of the video, but we all know the opposite would always happen 💀
+1 for the 996! Doug has always been a champion of these great cars
+1 but Doug is under quoting the actual price by 10-15k. I think a nice condition manual one is closer to 40-45k now
@@hellobenny truth. Especially in Canada
I have a '12 TTRS and agree. I think the BMW Z4m coupe which I also own should have been included. Still cheap.
I drive an E82 128i convertible, and it's a fantastic experience. Quick (naturally aspirated), tossible, open air and fairly reliable. It's the classic small BMW experience in a modern car!
Many of the cars aren’t undervalued, they’re valued appropriately according to their reliability. Owning an older euro sports car is a nightmare.
2017 Corvette C7 with stickshift. 6.2 litres, 465 lbs of torque in 3300 lbs, 250 lbs at idle. Targa top. 4 center mounted exhausts.
Well, there goes my hope of finding a cheap TT-RS😂. Those are incredibly rare to find in the US.
I’m genuinely surprised 1st gen Vipers haven’t ballooned over $50k. I can’t recall the last time I saw one in person
2006-2008 Porsche 987 Caymam S,manual 6spd transmission. Absolutely underappreciated and underestimated.
Quite unfortunate they all get bore scoring. I always advise to stick to the 2.7 or 2.9 to be worry free
@@thorproductions1488 Or go with the 987.2, but then you're paying a lot more.
They all have bore score and you have to pay 10k for a full engine rebuild. That's why they are so cheap.
@@Oishiilicious to be fair though - all 996 and 997 end up there eventually. 991 had their share of engine problems, especially the GT3 gen1.
All of them are prone to end of shelf-life at around 200.000km +/- X.000 km.
Though based on what I've seen on youtube and read on forums, cars that only been driven in warm climate seem to not have this problem. It seems to primarily impact those cars driven in cold climates (or where there is seasonal climate).
So I wouldn't say it is a 100% correlation.
I drove mine to 210.000 km and it had no bore score when I sold it. 987.1S.
I love my 135i 🥰
I bought it because of your 1M video, Doug.
Did all sorts of mods to it, and it TRANSFORMED the car. It handles like a dream, probably better than a stock 1M, but it hangs with modern bmws on upgraded turbos & clutch. Runs high 11s at the 1/4 mile on 93oct. Very practical & comfortable, good backseat headroom compared to the TTRs. Looks amazing, even after 4 years of ownership. Never getting rid of this car!!
He should also go over the expensive cost to maintain and repair these vehicles
2014 Dodge Charger RT with the MERCEDES BENZ transmission.I own this car its amazing.All of the cars he mentioned will have very high mechanic bills or mechanics in America might not even want to work on them.Good luck finding parts at a junkyard with any of these cars.Chargers,Challengers,and Rams are EVERYWHERE.
Boxster / Cayman 987.2 S definitely missing on this list
You get all this easily in the 30s (in Europe)!
- naturally aspirated, great sounding engine in the 300 hp sweetspot
- manual
- Mid engine
- basically 997 interior
- no more ims issues in the .2
- only about 7,500 987.2 Boxster S built, likely even less Cayman S
That's my car! 😀 Okay, I should say "That's my old car!" - the Orient Red 996 seen in two stills, and its black interior seen in one still, is my old car that I sold on Cars & Bids. I agree with Doug's sentiments on the 996, I owned the car for six or seven years and absolutely loved every moment of it. It gives you a true Porsche 911 experience at a fraction of the cost of any other 911. I wouldn't hesitate to buy another one if ever I'm in the market for a 911 again.
I’m going to be sad when 350z’s are hard to find. They’re easy to find now but a lot are beaten within an inch of their life
Couldn’t agree more on the V12 Aston’s. The engines and transmissions are super reliable and you can’t get anything near as powerful or as rare for anything like the price they’re going for now.
What are the chances that all these cars are currently being listed on cars and bids right now?
100%
Im not sure if this comment is meant to be snarky, but if so, thats a dumb comment. These are all pretty common vehicles, so of course they will be on Cars & Bids lol. After all, they are undervalued sports cars.
Literally the first car isn’t currently listed.
A more appropriate title for this video would be "Here are 10 Undervalued Used Sports Cars to Buy Right Now on Cars & Bids"
You could go to cars & bids and look. We will wait for your report.
I would argue the CLK500 base deserves to be on this list, great 5.0L v8, relatively good mileage, good steering and handling and flys down the road without protest. They came from a time where Mercedes was building cars to last. All the little features like the a/c vent in the center console to keep things cool and the a/c charcoal filter are actually usable. I personally love mine and picked it up for $10,500 2 months ago with 50k miles. An absolute undervalue. In today’s money it’d be over $65k.
Yeah try finding an early 350z not completely clapped out. I wish no one would bother me in my ND it is the coolest 😂
Try having a miata, where Miata are few and far between. Even though it's just a cheap Mazda at the end of the day, still gets some attention
I did..?! HR (07-08) so revs to 7,500 RPM, 60K now 68K miles, mint. Added lightweight Kojin's wrapped in Conti ECS, replaced Brembos while adding SS brake lines, dropped in some aFe filters (plural because HR) and she's a screamer. Not a single squeak or rattle. Paid equivalent of 14K in Aug 2021, solved the rock chips myself with an OEM touch pen.
Missed a good one. Jaguar Ftype V8S or V8R. Very reliable. 495hp to 550hp stock but all models have the same engine just different tune. As a $1500 tune and you're at 600hp in a beautiful drop top. Change the supercharger pulleys and you're at 675hp. Not quite as refined as my Aston but it is quicker. Handles almost as well too. Sadly no sick shift though.
Loving the F-type love! The V6S model isn't a slouch either. Still lots of fun.
I will keep saying this even though no one will listen. The 2010 and up Jaguar XKR's are absolute bargains for the experience. You get more power (510hp) out of that than you do in all of the cars listed. For a car that started out at over 100 grand and is now in the low 20s, it's stupid that people don't talk about it.
You'll never see videos or comments about cars that are ACTUALLY underrated/undervalued, especially not from Doug. He's gotta appeal to the guys that think miata is the end all be all. Jay Leno said it best "buy what you like and theres a good chance someone else will like it in the future too". This is how I ended up with a SVT focus and Volvo C30 combo
I bought an ‘11 XKR 5.0L in 2019 for $22k and still consider it the best bang-for-buck I’ve ever gotten in a car.
I flew down to Texas to buy it, then drove it on a 2,000 mile road trip back to Idaho. An amazing experience I recommend anyone to try someday when they’re able.
I specifically wanted a modern-ish 400+ hp V8, RWD Coupe with heated seats (bonus points if they were cooled too) and a hatchback/liftback for $30k or less.
By that weirdly-specific criteria, I could only really choose from either the XKR and the C6 Corvette. (The Aston V8 Vantage was a bit outside my price range at the time, as was the C6 Z06)
I locally test drove a couple C6’s and an earlier XKR with the supercharged 4.2L. The C6 was nimble and fun with its manual, but it creaked and squeaked a lot, whereas the XKR felt much more solid and substantial while feeling equally as fast. (The hatch area was also significantly larger)
In the end I decided the way-less-common XKR was the car for me and that’s when I discovered that I could afford the significantly more powerful 5.0L version and it was a done deal. (Plus it had cooled seats!)
I ended up modifying and absolutely loving that car, pulley/intake/exhaust/tuned with around 650hp at the crank and it remained reliable as a daily driver with real road presence everywhere it went.
I eventually replaced it with an F-Type R but actually found I preferred the XKR in the end….then I realized how much I missed having a manual and a removable roof so I sold that and got myself an ND2 RF Club Miata with the Brembo/BBS/Recaro package and am loving every second of it.
@tslexus1989 I own a 2014 XKR. After seeing the astons on the list.... figured the Jag would make it. I've owned mine since 2020. Drove to Texas from Cali and trailered it back. Put about 15k miles on it in 4 years had 65k when i bought it now at 80k. Drive it spiritedly every time I'm in her. No issues besides a coolant leak I spotted before it got big. Exhaust, tune, and pulley has me at about 650hp crank. She's a beast and sounds remarkable. Every time I drive it, I get thumbs up. Beautiful and sexy car.
I've owned a 2015 Vantage for several years already as my weekender. I just cannot imagine another supercar that would have it's maintenance/repairs any easier to handle. The local shop who handles my AM and specializes in German and Italian brands agrees.
20k for a Miata vs 20k for a c5 z06 is absolutely a no brainer. The z06 is so much more visceral of an experience, its reliable and gives you way more of an “exotic” sports car feel.
I doubt those two are really cross shopped tho
I had the choice, and took the nd Miata. Tires alone are triple the price on the Vette. Both are great cars, but unless you have a racetrack, you’ll never really be able to use the Vette. My Miata makes every commute fun.
@@stephenbacks3100 great take
Agreed, 2004 C5 Z06 Commemorative Edition owner here. I owned an NA Miata Track car a few years back. Fun, but slow.
@@stephenbacks3100Drip rails and other water intrusions are getting to be a total PITA on the C5Z if you want to daily/commute in them. The rails are NLA, 100% will fail in keeping water out. They like to crack when trying to remove them to reseal. Big road trip guy and sadly just gave up after 4 years.
If weekend/track toy, C5Z easy choice.
I know Doug has no love for anything that Lexus has ever put out but I thought I would mention the Lexus IS F. The Lexus IS F was made from 2008 to 2014 and you will love the naturally aspirated 416 hp V8 that is under that hood. You can buy one for about 25k and still have almost all the modern features of most of the newer cars today minus all the stupid nanny features built into all of the newer cars today and you won't have to worry about them leaving you stranded because they are built with high-quality parts and they sound just sound incredible. Its only drawback is that it doesn't come with a manual transmission they are comfortable and reliable and they don't look bad that bad compared to many other cars out there. They only made about 5k of them worldwide during their entire 6-year run so they are definitely a rare car that you will not see many of them on the road. They do turn heads as I have owned one and have had many people come up to me whenever I was stopped somewhere just to ask me about it and ask me if I wanted to sell it which I would never do. I really like these cars a lot. I paid about 20k for mine with about 50k miles on it. It now has over 130k miles on it and I could probably sell it for more than I paid for mine right now. It hasn't cost me lots of money to maintain other than regular maintenance and it has not had any problems at all. I have no problem driving that car across the country if I wanted to because I know It will make there no problems and that I would be comfortable and that it would get me there way ahead of schedule because these cars are very fast with their 0 to 60 at 4.5 seconds which is still way faster than most newer cars made today. and there is a small aftermarket for these cars giving you the opportunity to boost that engine up to 800 hp and still be very reliable compared to other cars in that class and it won't completely break your bank account to do it. You will be happy that it is a four-door because the rear seat is fairly usable for smaller adults and those two extra doors will save you lots of money in insurance payments compared to its two-door version RC F models. Doug must have had earplugs on when he test-drove these cars because their exhaust note is nothing you would ever expect to be coming from a Lexus and it's intoxicating. Maybe one of the best stock-sounding exhaust notes I have ever heard and it changes your entire driving experience tenfold. I believe these cars are a bargain for 25k and they are starting to creep up in price for the less used lower milage ones of course which can sell for as high as 50k in that condition. I highly recommend you go test drive one before you write it off as being a car your grandfather would drive. They are anything but that and you can't beat the bang for the buck you will be getting along with the rare reliability that will come with a car that offers that much performance at that price range. They look sporty enough stock and there is an aftermarket for them that you can use to make these cars look and perform that much more sporty to fit in with other cars of this class of cars. It's a win-win no matter what you plan on doing with it. If Doug was blindfolded and given a ride in an IS F, he would be very surprised to find out that he was sitting in a Lexus when he took that blindfold off. That's because he has a negative bias on Lexus vehicles which has blinded him to believe that Lexus has ever put out a sports car at all. He is definitely wrong about the IS F and you will see that too once you go and drive one for yourself.
It's crazy to me how cheap the Audi RS5 is in the US. In Germany you don't really find any below double that.
Time to import 😂
Cars are overpriced in general in Germany.
@@GanG914the Netherlands is even more expensive.. it’s ridiculous over here.
@@GanG914 many italian enthusiast import their cars from germany because are way cheaper there, in italy the car market (expecially jdm) is crazy, everything is overpriced
As the proud owner of a 996.1, I LOVE the car.
I have a high-mileage example that needed some TLC for some of the interior and exterior trim, but I'm slowly restoring it
Well worth the money, it's my daily driver and it's a blast to drive
Perhaps the Porsche is a bargain, but the maintenance costs are insane.
Yeah. Like all boxers, they are squeezing so much engine between the frame rails that you have to drop the engine out to do anything bigger than an oil change.
Not really 996’s are pretty cheap and quite reliable
And nobody here owns one !! 😅
Maint on a Porsche is not that bad on the older ones. Known for reliability
I own a 12 year old Porsche and I recommend adding $5K to save on top of a used purchase just in case it needs repairs or for potential maintenance which could be costly.
Watching a Doug DeMuro undervalued used sports car video and seeing the car you just bought (2018 ND1 Miata) for less than what Doug says? Priceless. And no Doug, people do actually point their fingers at it and say "Oh wow, that's a really cool car!" - especially when there are 20 of them driving around Puget Sound ;)
Almost everything he named had insane reliability issues. They aren’t exactly “under valued”, the market is properly valuing them when to take the reliability into account
About half of them, the Corvette, viper, Miata, and 350z are all pretty reliable cars. Although the z car could have issues because of how previous owners treated them. They have a much higher chance of having lived a rough life.
@@herranton TT RS is ok too, for an Audi. The RS5 may have had the valve guides sorted for the 4.2 V8 by then
@@AnythingEvil78 Nothing German is ok from the past 30 years. Aside from maybe Porsche. They're designed on the principle of _more complicated, more better._ And that is always bound to fail. Porsche sometimes simplifies to add lightness and speed, but I'm sure it absolutely drives their engineers insane.
@@herranton they can get annoying electrical issues but the drivetrain is solid. I track my cars and my TT RS hasn't broken anything, my previous two WRX's were constantly breaking things.
LOL C5 might have cheap interior but the LS7 is about as simple and reliable as it gets, paired with a T56 trans you can't beat that thing. 350Z other than Cam & Crank Position Sensors randomly failing is pretty stout and a Miata? Please that's as reliable as it gets, even the 996 once you fix the IMS it's another car that'll easily get to 200,000 miles.
the ND Miata with 2.0 184hp is special because this engine won't be available anymore soon. Basically the ND Miata is like a ferrari or porsche out of the 70s / 80s :) It's faster than the first 911 / carrera Sport.
Key point about the RS5 is that it’s one of the best sounding V8s to ever exist
Is it the same as the panamera?
@@Big.W. as far as sound? I’m not sure all I know is that if you can find one with the factory titanium exhaust it WAILLLS and sounds so good
The E82 1 series is the bees knees. I had a 128i and a 135i with FBO and and LSD. They were so much fun to drive. I have an F87 M2 now but I’d love to own a 1M one of these days
How the hell is a 350z undervalued? The drift tax has these things way overvalued. And not sure where you're finding a nice one for $10k. Maybe if it's an auto that no one wants. The beaten up, ragged on manuals are asking $10k. Can't find a half decent one for under $15k which is ridiculous considering you could get really clean versions for $8k 6 years ago.
The C5 is overvalued too
This video is mostly wrong except the aston martins
ok then get in a time machine to 6 years ago
350z were 5k all day long back then too
12k for a 300hp rwd manual is still 'worth' it...yes boy racer-style cars from 20 years ago are harder to find in clean condition hence the price, tale as old as time
Thanks Doug,
This is a pretty good list, with one glaring omission - the Lexus RCF. This car is much rarer than the LC everyone lusts over. It handles better, performs better, is more practical as a daily driver, has the bulletproof 2UR-GSE naturally aspirated V8 and is a complete bargain 😎
I really like the look of the 996.
Me too. I'm not a Porsche guy, but I always thought the 996 was really clean looking.
My first thought upon seeing the title of this video was, "Oh, like the C5 Z06, I assume?" Biggest bang for your buck, IMHO, and the best-looking Corvette since the early '60s. Not to mention, cheap to maintain and fix because it's a Chevy. If I were in the market for a weekend toy sports car, that'd be the one I'd buy.
undervalued sports cars since this video 📈📈📈
wow... how original... ugh
Doesnt apply in sydney though
I owned an '08 135i in my early 20s. Man I loved that car, also had an aftermarket 1 M style bumper which greatly improved the front fascia. Water pump went around 60k, which was a fairly easy plug and play job I did myself. Shortly thereafter, the notorious high pressure fuel pump started acting up. Putting the vehicle into limp mode whenever I got on it. Switched out the pump, regular pump, injectors, nothing fixed it. Wrecked it before I was able to fully resolve the issue.
Seeing that E82 135i gave be me PTSD. I had a 2011 335i with the same n55 motor for 3 years and had nothing and I repeat nothing but issues. God I hated that goddamn thing so much.
I figured he was going to mention the 128i, not the 135i. Everyone I know who had one had your same experience.
Well said-the entire list.
Glad you listed 996-best kept secret in the performance segment!
Sort the IMS and enjoy!!!
Worth it to jump up to a 370z. Or at least go for a 2007-2008 350.
VQ35DE is a rejigged Maxima engine, VQ35HR was truly intended for the FM chassis & had revisions to 80% of engine parts.
370z shortened wheelbase by 4”, widened track width, + 30-70HP over 350z, and a lot of fundamental flaws fixed from the debut FM-chassis cars.
The prices aren’t 350z level, but far from expensive these days, and with 09-19(?) for production you won’t have trouble finding one.
This, this right here. HR & VHR in the driveway, been dailying a '13 G since Oct 2016. Had 2 DE's before this HR (07) roadster, what a difference.
Ghetto rats
I've been thinking about a Aston Martin V8 for a daily driver. I do about 200 highway miles a week, but I'm just concerned with repairs and maintenance. I did see your video on it which was a great!
1:27 for a second I thought this was a Less Doug DeMuro clip. it sure sounds like "ranked sexually alphabetical"
Literally just heard this and came straight to the comments to see if it was mentioned. Not disappointed 😂.
Cars are sexy so he's not wrong 😂
@@kevin-qc7zv LOL!! I really don't want that DD image...
@@claysmell 😂😂😂
I was hoping you would mention the bargains you can get on Mercedes AMG C63S from 2016-2020. I have a 2018, and its by far the most fun I have had driving anything.
10 undervalued cars you should've bought before this video came out
not funny, not accurate, not remotely original... you really nailed it cupcake
I owned 2009 Mk2 TT with the 3.2 VR6, and it was so fun. 250hp was plenty for daily driving in such a small and nimble car.
987 Cayman and Boxster. Better driving experience than a 996, more reliable, nicer looking inside and out, and less money. You are really just paying to say you have a 911.
Especially the 997.2 from 2009 - 20012. Compared to the 997.1:
. Increased BHP
. Eiminated the IMS bearing.
. Introduced Direct Fuel Injection (DFI) for better throttle response, lower emissions, and better gas milage.
. Although I prefer the 6-speed manual transmission, they replaced the Tiptronic automatic transmission with the much more responsive PDK.
. Changed cylinder liners to prevent bore scoring in the "S" models.
Before this video, I actually searched the cars as mentioned missing only the Viper and tt...I ended up deciding on the 996. I got an early 98 build with a new rebuilt and upgraded big bore motor. No regret as it's true that every 911 series WILL appreciate as you drive once it tanks for a bit. Monterey Car Week was an eye opener with the amount of 911 that were present driving around. Werks Reunion, there were 2 dealership showcasing the 996 series.
The 350Z is to the 300ZX what the RX-8 is to the FD RX-7. They’re both the 2000’s follow-up of the absolute legend from the 90’s, and they’ll simply never be able to tackle that immovable 90’s nostalgia. It’s happened to all of them; the R35 vs R34, Mk5 Supra vs Mk4, New NSX vs the original… The love and pop culture surrounding those cars peaked with the 90’s generations, and nothing will ever top them.
@@Travis-guy-247 It might be different if the 90's cars weren't so gorgeous and the follow-up versions so damn ugly.
@@rob_does_stuff They could try their absolute hardest to design something more beautiful than the 90’s ones, but it’s an impossible task. It’s not just the cars on their own, it’s the pop culture and nostalgia surrounding them that boosts them up to heights that are impossible to replicate. Lots of things in life have a “golden era”, where it peaks and is never that good again. This is what’s happened to car design. When you go up against nostalgia like that, nostalgia always wins.
one I think should also be on the list is a 2007-2014 AMG C63. They can be had for pretty cheap these says, if you can find one with the heads re-done they are keepers!
R56 mini cooper s is the ultimate bargain fun car. $4k all day long
My ex girlfriend had one of those. I was in it twice in 2 years. Went through 3 engines and was having more issues after that heh
@@KartKing4ever yea their motors are trash but they are cheap enough now that a 1500 dollar rebuild isn’t gonna hurt
One that I'm always surprised how cheap they're selling for is the Chrysler Crossfire. I know the styling is love/hate but I think they're cool. It's basically a mercedes slk underneath. Lots have low mileage and are often in really good condition, at least in my part of Canada. I've seen them for as little as $5k cad, though the more desirable trim/drivetrain can be a fair bit more.
I'm stretching the definition of a sports car a bit...
It was good looking car in hardtop. A quick check of USA prices show the SRT-6 trim anywhere between 10 & 20k depending on milage & condition.
350z is such a car. If you are into tuning it's a monster. Even base is still really good. But if you can tune with a supercharger or turbos, it's insane.
My girlfriend's uncle had one in Toronto, we were going to miss a train to New York and for some reason he gave us a lift, ignoring all speed limits and driving on hard shoulders etc. We got there in good time.. Crazy fast car and felt so solid on the road
@@Sakosaga I just put a corvette ls3 in my 350z, and it's wild!
Your description of Vipers as big engines mounted to chassis with some body work thrown on top is perfect. Horrible panel gaps, chintzy interior, etc. But what a car!
This vid should be called "appropriately valued affordable sports cars" because that is what these all are😂
I love the comment on the Viper. Big engine, mounted onto a chassis, with some bodywork built around it.
The Audi RS5 is glorious. That V8 is epic.
It indeed is, but unfortunately no manual makes it a deal breaker for me.
That's a great list. A few pretty obvious cars, and a couple more obscure ones, too.
The ND Miata, while not fast, feels faster than it is. But it's not exactly slow either, even the ND1. You won't win drag races vs. obviously faster cars, but it's quick and it handles very well on the road, even with the stock suspension. I daily drove one for over four years and I'll probably buy another ND someday.