2019 Mustang GT PP2 vs Camaro SS 1LE - TRACK REVIEW // DRAG RACE & LAP TIMES
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- Опубліковано 4 чер 2019
- CONTINUING OUR FULL TRACK SERIES! James and Thomas take the new 2019 Mustang GT Performance Pack 2 and pit it against the 2018 Chevrolet Camaro 1SS 1LE in a full track test: Drag race, drifting, and lap times! Can the coyote in the Mustang defeat the powerful and lighter Camaro? Let's find out!
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Finally a truly fair comparison, both are manuals, both are the track package option, and both are on the same tires.
What's the price difference?
@@thepioneer6178 They're pretty close - within a couple thousand. The mustang pp2 comes with pilot sc2 though, but they don't last very long. I switched out to ps4s.
And I would love to have either of them in my garage...
Camaro is an auto wym lol
Andrew Flores no, the 1LE comes only in a manual
This is some of the best content I've seen on UA-cam. no biased opinion, no unfairness, no bad-mouthing, just pure, rich automotive content.
And the fact that they look at more then just "what time did it do." I enjoy their comments on how the cars feel, and how they feel driving them.
These cars are not the same. Run the GT with the 10 speed auto. Much faster than the six speed
@@warrengarcia884 not around a track......and the manual is the better "driver's car", which was what they wanted to compare.
Auto is for drag racing only.
True
Dgdufbfn functionality
"Gone are the days of boaty American cars."
*Dodge* *Challenger* *has* *issued* *you* *a* *challenge*
@Ritesh Yadav the unfortunate truth people go from fwd Honda civics to cars with descent power and lose there minds 😂
@Just a Person yeah fuck safety right 😂
@Ritesh Yadav nigga tr
I own a mustang and I must admit I love the challenger. Just has that classic look to it.
Challenger has no chance against these on a track, but I have it on my purchase list over these two for a number of reasons that I won't bother with here.
Thanks for doing a proper test. 37 track days on my 1LE and zero issues
@Belgrave Wallace track Insurance is per event. An event could be one to three days but I always get it
@@Racer_Mike87 how much does it cost per session? Like an average per day.
Hi do you still have the Camaro? I’m wondering if I should buy one too for track purposes and some weekend driving
@@TUGRA14 yes ! 🙌
Mine broke after 5 sessions. AFM lifter. Not mad. Getting it fixed and looking forward to more fun.
I own a mustang but even I can’t deny that the SS 1LE is a track monster
Yeah, but a little fine tuning and I can pretty much Guarantee the Mustang will take out the Camaro. It's literally redefined to compete at multiple levels, including higher speeds smoother. The Camaro is literally all about that blow torque in your face as it should, but unfortunately won't admit to much on the highway against other greats. Like I said, take your GT and get it tuned, maybe go with Ethanol and you'll be fine on the Drag. GT has been proven to be funner and smoother, more stability in general and basically will do the same damn thing but with better end game results. I see too many people here in Cali racing on the freeway and if we are going that route, your Mustang should beat that Troque monster... I feel bad for saying that cause I love that Chevy made a true Muscle Car thats actually great on track : (.
@@shawnmacisaac5226 Agreed. Ford leaves a lot on the table for the aftermarket, both in terms of power and handling, that you can build it for whatever you want and it will perform. For example, twin turbo Mustangs running 9s and destroying modified Demons :D
@@TheLouke Lol the lt1 is ass compared to a gen3 coyote. The 18 mustang had gone 8.6's with stock motor and stock transmission. The Camaro is barely able to get into the mid 9's before the LT1 powdered rods clock out. On the highway the Camaro just gets walked even worse since it can't use it's torque at all.
@@TheLouke lol I drive a GMC but okay... I'm not delusional I know that the coyote is a better platform than the LS/LT motors.
@@rileyneufeld7001LS/LT motors are good even into 8 seconds.... you must be delusional. I have a 2012 cts v coupe with a cam and bolt ons and I run mid 9s with drag radials and the car still has plenty of room to go if I wanted to do turbos which I probably won't. If you check out justa6 his coyote got rekt at about 1000hp. I've seen other youtubers with cars like StreetSpeed717 who had a Z06 that was making over 1200whp on pump gas.
Camaro driver's wrist brace added extra 12 hp and 8 lbs of torque. 😂
increased scaphoid stiffness by 90%
Legend has it, he broke his wrist wacking off too hard to the Camaro before filming
@@rubberskilla2991 Or while fisting the exhaust
or while warming his pp in the exhaust
If the Mustang would've had racing stripes it would've won.
What I learned from this is......buy the one you think looks the best.....they’re both awesome performers.
Wow
@@nkosimoyo3936 wow
Wow
Wow
Wow
When american cars are better at that track than European ones
Boomers: Confused pikachu face.
lmaoo
Okay. American car good. But when comes to curves Japanese car's. And the reason is. Most Americans car's are FR. And long n to wide. Witch mean if come to a sharp turn. You have to slow down. Because if you don't FR car will spin out of control. Urpion car's are so much worse. Like the marcidies car omg. And the jaguar. But Japanese car's are designed differently.
Japines car's not so long n boky.
@@relaxedguy496 lmaooo arigatouuu
cat what about Mercedes Amg gtr
I think anyone that get either one of these cars is a winner, and cost less than a BMW
Mustang >
m4 costs more and is slower than both of those cars
You mean supra?
@@mistersnufflefoot6614 well there is more than the m4 just performance you wont find cheap material on an m4 and its refined
@@memorychiedzo6172 run the average person broke in shop repairs too. Lol.
thank you SO much for using the same tire and same driver. such a REAL test.
Oem tires would have been car vs car as the manufacturers intended.
@@LordDeadSpider seeing how the first thing most track rats do is get track rubber, this is the better comparison. It shows the true car vs car.
Carl Meaux I got ya, makes sense. I look at these car comparisons as you buy them. Perhaps they should compare them with 2 sets of tires?
@@LordDeadSpider if that's how you want them compared, just watch the main stream stuff. Motortrend, car and driver, and car and track all do off the floor comparisons. I don't care for those cause literally, last car I bought, I had 200 TW rubber waiting in the carport before I had left the show room. I like to see what the chasis vs chasis will do. Not see one pull ahead because of consumable that will last only a couple track days anyway.
@@LordDeadSpider I thought motortrend or someone else already pit the SS 1LE with stock tires against the mustang and the Camaro still won.
It has a superior chassis and that is why it wins. Tires are easily replaced and the easiest upgrade.
Hell when the SS came out it was slaying the GT 350 and that was the high performance mustang back in 2016. The ZL1 1LE is a super car slayer capable of putting cars twice its price to shame and is often more liked than its Z06 counterpart even though it technically isn't as fast around a track due to it being heavier and not as aerodynamic.
The GM Alpha platform is amazing and The 1le is a drivers car.
I’m addicted to your channel. Just got a 2020 Mustang GT started with watching videos about just mustangs vs other cars but I can’t stop watching all the videos! Love the format of the videos, informative and the footage is so good.
Pony Life 🤘🏾🏇🏾
I just bought a 2021 Mustang GT 5.0 it's a beast love it!
3:20 "I am lighter weight than him... the car is lighter weight than him" lmao
he said his
3:23
It looks like Top Gear did in its golden era. Great vid.
wolfhorsky 💯% agree! 😊
Don't mention top gear 💔😭
No matter how dark, wild your horse 🐴 is. We still love our #bumblebee
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@@HEATHENS5074 the camaro
Does your country have roads??
@@thefoxoropeza7906 ahhh
@@gautam2550 it does
This is incredible! The tires are the same, the same driver and people don't argue in the comments!
For Real!!! almost unheard of fantastic video and cars well done
The little one was OBVIOUSLY biased towards the Camarillo, so do I think it was fair. No! Plus I own that exact Mustang and I roast Camaros regularly. 🤣
😂😂
@@Lefty_Knox13 your car lost bro just take dat L lol
@@Lefty_Knox13 if only the people you think your beating are as willing to lose their license as you, then your races would go just like this Mustangs did everytime.
The best version of the Camaro SS and Mustang GT out right now. Awesome time to be alive
Jozer SS hardly man. The Camaro has come a long way. Especially interior. Mustang has gotten better and better since the 5.0 came out though.
@@Mangobrain82 I agree, just bought a new 2020 1LE earlier this week. I absolutely love it! One of my buddies has a boss 302 and he loves it too! Says he wouldn't hesitate to buy one. Excellent performance for the money!
2018 camaro 2SS is a little better
@@Mangobrain82 I’ll give you visibility, interior wise the Camaro is so much nicer and feels not as cheap as the mustang
@@juanito6340 newer Camaro I agree with you. The last 2 gens were very disappointing. I wish they could fit luggage and better use of the interior. Camaros are compact by todays standard.
You guys were the First to do this with these cars head to head in the same vids, I feel like I'm not the only one who has waited for this quite a while, awesome vid guys
No joke. I've been waiting for a good PP2 vs 1LE comparo.
2aevensen same
I hate it when they do PDK vs GM auto. Next up: Manual 911 VS Manual Corvette, same price point, or Manual cayman vs manual corvette, same price point.
I love it, this and the C/D comparison confirms that GM is just a step ahead of Ford in chassis engineering. It's the synergy and brain trust that GM has developed between the V-series, Camaro, and Corvette that puts them ahead. If you are a serious enthusiast and love to drive, you have to get the Camaro.
@@taylorc2542 It's years ahead of the Mustang on a real road track with the same tireset/brakeset.
Im sold on that 1le
It looks badass and seems to back that up in performance too
Democracy_is_truth I love the matte black hood also🥰😫
I just bought a new 1LE earlier this week. I absolutely love it!
@@Tusuperbis it is worth the extra 7,000 dollars is it not my wife definitely loves our 1le over the ss we had
Yeah except when it breaks down lol
@@aidenarkham Someone wanna get this butthurt fanboi some prep H?.....
Ive noticed a tread with a lot of the youth automotive journalists where they know facts but when they actually speak about the car it doesn't make sense. Like they don't understand driving or something. I just stumbled across this channel and pleasantly surprised. You guys sound and act like legit cars guys that like to drive cars like they are supposed to be driven. Keep up the good work.
That blue looks so nice on the Camaro 😍
Qasually ford blue lol
👍👍👍👍👍👍
@@destinyjacobs8147 I'll assume you're talking about "grabber blue", and that's a bit darker than the blue on the Camaro. Js
Grabber blue will always be the best color on a mustang.
Qasually do you know the exact name of that blue ? I wanna get my camaro wrapped that color
Love both💚
Would take the Camaro personally, but both are amazing machines!
Zilla 46 I have had both, Camaro is better.
I have both mustang is definitely better
Raul Rey one of y’all lying lmao
It's all opinions. Objectively the mustang is easier to daily, the camaro is easier to track. Just from a driver perspective (visibility).
@@user-ml6hf6fp5f it is not outsourced. It's assembled in Lansing Grand River Michigan.
3:52 I could listen to those roaring engines all day!!😍😍
Really Really great review. One of the best I have seen. No BS just real experience with the carsm. Drag race was like anyone on the street would do. No lowered tire pressures, burn outs, etc
James made that drag race look so casual in that Camaro while Thomas looked like he was racing for his life. Good race guys
@@KeithSchwerin
I'd wager quite a bit, because you are not having to lose acceleration while shifting gears. I know some people can change gears fast and without losing acceleration. But for the average person that no lift shift feature will make you feel like a track star.
Both cars are just so great that you can't make a bad decision with either. It's down to looks, personal preferences really
This is a great example of healthy competition. 5th gen Mustangs did not have enough power but the 2010 Camaro gave it competition and Ford finally listened
Arnav Sinha the camaro is far superior on track
sjpro1 far superior? Actually pretty close.
Mangobrain82 camaro is 1+ second faster on most tracks. That’s bus lengths in real world terms
Exactly. The competition is real. Ford and Chevy have great machines on their hands.
Mangobrain82 The mustang gt pp2 is not designed for extensive track use, the camaro ss 1le is. The mustang will go into limp mode due to heat issues when the camaro is just getting warmed up.
The key thing Thomas said was the mustang is more fun so that’s why I bought one. I’ll openly admit the camaro is better on the track though. Why can’t all gear heads just get along and appreciate amazing cars though?
Depends who’s driving the car. My mustang GT frequently beats SS and 1le packages and I have a lot of experience on the track. Also they got the horsepower wrong on the mustang it’s should be 480 not 460.
Forget about Top Gear, this is my favorite car channel. That track is such a fun place to bring these classic rivals. Great job guys!
Motortrend had me looking at the Camaro 1LE, but you guys were the ones who made me buy one. Well done.
how do you like it? looking to sell my 370z for one
@Vinny Booboo Imo, the Mustang looks more sexy and sleek, while the Camaro looks more mean and aggressive. I feel like for daily driving the Mustang is a better car, but on-track performance, the 1le is better. Both are great cars though.
If you're considering a 6th gen ss 1le dont think twice. My 19 is a amazing all around car. I love it even more then the 2012 m3 I had
I have a 2018 Mustang GT and really really enjoy it. But can't stop thinking about the camaro too. It's nice as well. I feel both are good muscle cars. Comes down to preference.
Great car but better weekend car than daily driver. IMO
Great test. Love that you went to the trouble to get them on the same tires (tyres for James). The video production gets better every time and is among the best out there for car reviews. My fav YT channel for car reviews now. Glad summer is here so we can see more track shootouts. Keep up the great work guys!
You guys are killin it! Keep up the great work! ❤️
I love my ‘14 mustang GT. But damn these two cars are awesome. It’s great to see that both names are still competing. That blue looks amazing!!
I love your track videos, but please mention the price in the beginning when you're comparing specs (and also maybe put up a chart on screen with HP, torque, price, options, etc.? Thanks guys. Keep up the excellent work :)
NeutralGenericUser that would be great
Or...just dont be lazy and look up the prices on these 2 cars yourself. There is such a thing called Google. And it will easily bring you to these things called websites. Specifically Ford's website and Chevrolet. In the time it took for you to read my comment...you could have looked up the price on at least one of these cars.
Nobody should hold your hand as you walk thru life...😉😜🤣
@@_E_B_ These cars are equipped differently with different options. You can't "Google" the price of these specific cars dumbass.
@@TeflonNapkins Based on what I see in the video... GT Premium Fastback with Orange Fury paint, Performance Pack Level 2, and Active Valve Performance Exhaust: $59,775 CDN. Camaro 1SS with 1LE Package, Performance Data Recorder, 1LE Hash Mark Decal: $56,180CDN. But, the pricing can be very misleading unless you go into a lot of detail about what is actually included in that price, in order to do an apples to apples comparison. However, from my experience, most people just see the numbers and ignore all the details anyway. So, I question the value of including the price in the video. You should research the cars yourself and take the time to actually understand what you are getting for the money.
I was going to comment the exact same thing. Every video should include this.
Throttle, you know you're doing things right with a comparison like this when your comment feed has minimal excuses about why their car should have won. Kudos!
Wonderful video. I would like to see more of this SAME TIRE comparison. This is such a argument destroyer lol
Really good content. Plenty of channels have done it, but you've done it properly. Honest comparison of two track focused muscle cars. Ford and Chevrolet have come a long way with these two cars and although popular they are still highly underrated.
Sounds fair. I just bought my 2019 camaro ss standard and I love it. Both are beautiful cars but I've had a thing for camaro since forever.
That's great, If you replace the air filter with a K&N performance one you'll thank me later!
Jesus Ortiz it’s kinda got something like that already. Instead of the black box it came with a cold air intake style filter. I’ll try to track you down and send you a pic
fredrick houston same here
I'm looking into the rotofab cai. All the guys at race proven motorsports swear by them!
@@Tusuperbis I run a Roto Fab in my 19 SS 1LE. Loads better.
Great review! I’m glad you did the tire upgrade on the Camaro to keep things even. You guys look like you had a ton of fun making this video! Great job!
I absolutely love this channel!! You guys are awesome from the skits to the actual reviews!!
Finally! A fair comparison. Couldn’t find any vids like this on youtube.
Great job guys. Love your content and presentation.
Awesome review, really wanted to see this battle. Thank you!
Two phenomenal cars...amazing time to be alive!
I like how youtube interrupts this video with an ad thinking I'd be interested in a CR-V.
Loving this channel!
Great content!
SUBSCRIBED.
Good job 😁👍
Great video and editing guys!
One tip. For windows down driving at speed, take at least one camera, and get an external mic, and stick the mic in the glove box. You'll get great engine noise, without any of the wind noise.
underrated comment
Keep growing the channel! Honestly, one of the best car review channel I have come across!! Canadian 🇨🇦 eh??
i'd buy the camaro for the simple fact that it looks more aggressive
khyoon14 you sound like a woman... as long as it comes in pink too eh
@bodarya OMG yeah and the 6.2 has 455hp not 460hp like the 5.0
@bodarya OMG yeah and it’s pretty easy to make a mustang have 600hp too. They’re both good cars man, just pointing out that the 5.0’s displacement doesn’t hold it back
I'm deciding between the two and the Camaro is an ugly car that you cant see out of. Dont care if it's faster than the Mustang
Zach it is easy to get 600hp with forced induction, otherwise you will not get 600hp at least from a 5.0 mustang which I own, I’m almost sure that it is the same story with the camaro.
Those Mustang GT PP2’s are unreal !!
Great video. Good to see drag race and track times. Keep up the good work.
This is a awesome series, thank you guys for the great content.
You guys make fun videos to live vicariously through.
the track speeds were interesting cuz the mustang definitely carried more speed through corners which is really impressive but the fact that the camaro was able to make up for that in the straights is also impressive
I would have expected the opposite to be true, that the camaro would carry more speed through the corners.
Sorry your right. Camaro
Love them both. Im glad to see the US producing great sports cars.
This is a great video comparing. MotorTrend has also done this and came out with the same result.
The Camaro is unstoppable lol
Awesome vid, loved it!
Awesome series...rock on!
This was a great review! Really enjoyed it.
Really enjoyed the video. I’ve always admired you guys and your auto comparison choices. I thought it was brilliant that you avoided upsetting dealers/manufacturers by doing unorthodox (to say the least) comparisons. That way you avoid upsetting half your audience and auto suppliers. Yet you guys always come-off as completely authentic in your final judgment. Brilliant.
You always highlight the strengths off each car. Brilliant.
Any criticism you do share is always constructive. Brilliant.
I’m not sure if anyone else has figured out your formula to making informative and entertaining car review videos, but I think you have something magical going here. I have no doubt that you will eventually be picked up by a network for broadcasting on TV/cable if you decide to head that direction.
Keep up the great work guys and let me know if I can help out in any way. (Besides liking/subscribing).
Thanks mate! Really kind words. Liking and subscribing will do for now :) We are going to keep at it in the meantime
James Engelsman dude, are u gonna buy a camaro, looks like you really like driving it every time your in one, seen every camaro vid with you in it, u should go for it
The nls feature is awesome and sounds great, but it pulls so much timing in order to achieve that feature that it is actually faster to shift normally (as long as you are a fast shifter). I have tested this on mine and had faster times every time
I watched this video a year ago DEADSET that I was going to get the Mustang GT PP. Now it’s one year later and I’m the proud of a Chevy Camaro SS and I don’t regret it.💪🏼
Made the right decision going for the SS, and this is coming from a former GT350 owner
On a other note big props to this channel for doing this! U rock guys
Awesome runs guys and great comparison!
Watching your Krown commercial from L.A. where my 1995 Chevy is still mint af underneath lol
Keep making these amazing videos
Thomas = Canadian Stig
Great driving and great review as always! It’s great to see the cars with the same tire and driver.
Just an FYI if you are running full assists off in track mode, you could have overriden the suspension from track to sport to slightly soften it up if it felt too harsh on the track. Under vehicle settings in the infotainment screen.
Love seeing enthusiasts coming together without bashing each other's different tastes in manufacturers. I'm currently saving for the mustang, but the Camaro is beautiful in that color! Both are such great cars and you just can't beat the value that either one offers. You're getting alot of car and power per dollar vs their European counterparts.
Amazing review guys
Loving the track series guys. Would love to see any potential builds too(E46 maybe eh??) in the future. Keep it up!
Awesome guys! Now keep a time board and update it as you keep doing track comparisons. It would give a nice perspective for the future track tests.
Yep! We have enough times now to start doing a board
This!! 🤙🏼Definitely a review comparison chart would be a great touch to the channel...but something unique. Not copying the “Doug Score” 💤💤
Love your videos, if you guys could put together a video for a track test gt350 vs gt pp2 vs the eco boost hi performance just to see how they stack up...
Love this channel. Great comparison. I’m a Mustang junkie, I’m still taking the original Pony!
I think they are close enough you should just buy which ever one you think looks/sounds better
Sinoops 1.2 seconds is a lot at the track . Pretty close besides that though.
You should do that from the start lol, the average person isn't going to track their car that they need to buy the faster one on track.
Ginjabredman that’s what this episode is all about though lol.
@@motionelco ya but I wasn't talking about the video I was talking the persons comment about which one to buy realistically.
I think they both look and sound good
Finally an actual real comparison. No bullshit, no having to subscrbibe to a trial offer. Quality content of the best muscle cars.
I would love to see a track test between the shelby mustang gt500 carbon fibre track pack and camaro zl1 le.
Awesome! Great Video guys :-) So cool :-)
The shots in this video were sooooo goooooood 🔥
The blue on the camaro looks so good😍
Idk which to choose man. They both look so damn good and they’re both damn great in performance.
That camaro is gorgeous as hell love it
Need more than 159k subs. Deserve many times more.
I just rolled down to comments to say that exact same thing 😂
You guys make some of the best contact pur there. Great video.
Excellent job guys.
This is a top 5 auto review channel for sure!
These cars are beautiful. Great machines. These cars have come a long way.
Brilliant channel, deserves millions of subscribers
You guys have to make more content like this I love it
In 20 years we are going to miss the sound of this amazing cars on the streets. Im glad they exits, and existed.
Kudos for a BS-free comparison!
Definitely earned my sub lol 👌🤘
You guys did a awesome job
Great show! You can't go wrong with either of these. Just buy the one that has your favorite color.
Great video like always did u hurt your wrist in the alley fight with the chic 😂😂😂
Great vid and two great cars. A privilege to own either, I'm sure - but I prefer the overall aesthetics of the Mustang and the comparatively panoramic view out of the sides and rear. The lap times are cool to know, but the fact that the Mustang felt more fun to drive (and the reasons why) was of greater informational importance to me.
I have test driven the base GT and SS both in the last two weeks and hands down for me the driving experience in the Mustang has been much more to my liking. Also the visibility in the mustang is like 500% better. The front end of the 2019 SS (not the 2018 in this video) is a mistake over the 18. I'm leaning more to the Mustang but I will try them both again before I make my decision before buying.
I don’t know what it is but I can’t stop myself from watching throttle house review and race mustangs
GREAT VIDEO!!!!!
awesome that you put the same tires on. Hopefully you can keep testing cars on the same tire.
Great video! The noise these cars make is breathtaking! Love it! - Personally going off looks alone, it has to be the Mustang; but I can't deny how good that Camaro is. You could see that he could get the power down much earlier in the corners
Camaro looks better, mustang needs a face lift
I'm late to the TH party but what a treat to binge watch all the episodes!!!
Haha welcome!!
OMG that blue is so beautiful love it!!