Why Red Bull’s suddenly vulnerable in F1's car development war
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- Опубліковано 1 чер 2024
- Nothing escalates F1’s development war among the top teams quite like the deluge of new car parts synonymous with the start of F1’s European season.
Red Bull, Ferrari, Mercedes and Aston Martin all introduced a significant number of upgrades at Imola and even McLaren, which brought a major package to the previous race in Miami, had some circuit-specific changes here.
Red Bull has just about kept itself on top through all that, but there are real signs of it starting to look more vulnerable - with McLaren so nearly making it two wins in a row.
00:00 Intro
00:30 Red Bull under pressure
03:02 Smallest upgrade, quickest car
04:35 Where was Ferrari?
06:56 Small steps from Mercedes
08:19 Biggest upgrade ‘not good enough’
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When Redbull needs Perez the most, he always disappears
After upgrades always same shit.
He better be learning Chinese
@@HexaSquirrelmore like Thai xD
Well to be fair, I don't think Redbull actually needed him yet with the dominance of Max still being intact.
@@apophisstr6719 Bottas and Barrichello has the same situation but as long as their 'contribution' helps to win WCC it's acceptable.
Monaco quali is going to be interesting
Definitely going to be more interesting than the race itself 😂
@@yomanb258Hasn't that always been the case?
what was the last time The race in Monaco is more interesting than the Qualifying their 😂lol
@@user-wy5xe6ht2m 2011 or smth maybe
@@user-wy5xe6ht2m 1996
Aston Martin was the disappointment of the weekend imo
Stroll did alright. Alonso was disappointing.
@@Moray2023Alonso had car issues. AM cannot provide him with a proper car. They bring massive update package and go backwards another 5 places.
@@mrRTvids Stroll had the same upgrades and was still bottom half for the top 10.
@@Moray2023 Stroll did alright but still the car's maximum was P9. They were fighting McLaren and Mercedes at the start of the season
@@mrRTvidscuz he crashed in fp3
The last time I was this early The Race actually liked Daniel Ricciardo
ha!
Dani Ric has an amazing fanbase, they dont even mind if hes been on a wild goose chase through teams, lost all confidence, and ended up back in the only team where he had been successful only in the junior team, he really just took a longer route instead of just saying he was scared of max lol
@@perfor5376despite beating max for two seasons at red bull? i’m no fan of his per se but your comment paints a wild picture of reality
@@charliehill8068he saw the writing on the wall, max wasn't gonna be the new guy on the team forever and was clearly the better driver halfway through their time together
Danny is giga washed 😂
I think the most exciting part is 2025. The cars will be almost identical in terms of the base cars as all focus will be on 2026. A clean state is what McLaren need now with this current package.
Kinda crazy to see how much Mclaren has improved under Zak's tutelage. Obviously, Norris is driving just as in-form as we though Sainz was behind Max. The driver's are making the difference.
Fat Brown
@@dsdf_fdp1858that’s the problem for Red Bull, they may not be very happy about Perez, but his driving style makes him strong on street-circuits where Max isn’t as dominant. Sure someone like Bearman may looks better than Perez, but Bearman isn’t available to them and none of their juniors have any real consistency. They need to stop fannying about with Ricardo and give Lawson some serious mileage. It was fairly obvious last season that they needed to be ruthless about that decision (Tsunoda is too good for Honda, to drop in 2025), but Horner has a soft spot for Dani Ricc and fair play he was important for Red Bull at a difficult time. However, times change, Riccardo left Red Bull and is damn lucky to be back at all. I can see Lawson in after the Summer break in a proper shoot-out with Perez for the 2025 senior drive. I don’t see any pressure on Red Bull to resolve this early as they’re using the situation to tempt Carlos to come on the cheap, when Max has no intention of leaving.
@@dsdf_fdp1858 Well in Norris and Piastri you have two very good drivers who are capable of challenging for wins if they have the machinery to rival RB. Same with Ferrari Mercedes and Aston Martin (excluding the daddies boy Stroll) realistically Perez has the machinery to be 2nd consistently instead he's sloshing around between P5 and P10 usually.
If next year McLaren/Ferrari or by some miracle Mercedes starts challenging more consistently. Well then RB are only going to have Max able to fight at the sharp end. Unless they sign Sainz then Verstappen is going to be all by himself fighting.
"Identical"
The 2024 RB sounds like the 2018 Mercedes.
Unbelievably quick when dialled in, but takes a lot of time to get dialled in.
Without that time and car knowledge they are fighting the car for lap time.
nice comparison
So 3 more years of RB dominance then?
@@kkavaradaguru7632no probaply not.. but when we get to tracks that suit Red Bull.. they get a good practice AND the setup right that thing is the quickest by far. People straight up forgot what happened in Bahrein....
@@GPitstra37 No one forgot, but Bahrain isn't important anymore as the development race has kicked off so the cars aren't the same as they were in Bahrain, which is what this video was about mate...
@@kkavaradaguru7632nah 2026 will already be different.
Just imagine if Checo and Stroll were teammates in Red Bull and how teams like McLaren and Ferrari would pounce on them. That is the difference a driver like Max makes in this situation.
When it’s max then he makes the difference but historically when there have been team mate pace disparities in dominant cars, it’s the car. Got it, thanks.
@@vikashchandra9917 😂 hate coming your way soon....they dont like to hear that, when its a driver they like its all skill otherwise its the car
@@vikashchandra9917 it's never been this wide of a gap.
Valtteri bottas was always sold 3rd-4th through the years for example.
that's why Merc won every team standings for 7 years straight.
@@3rdGenGuy I see why you would think that but really it’s because all the develops 100% on Max. Every season Checo is competitive in the beginning and then just fades (Bottas was same). This season he is just dismal. Ultimately physics is real, no driver can go beyond the limits of the car, no matter how good the driver is.
@@vikashchandra9917 No, but its were you put that edge(with setup) and how close you can get to that edge.
Might be interesting to do the maths on "how quick the car is based on the second drivers results.
Horner told Channel 4 (after qualifying) that Seb Buemi and the engineers at MK worked on the simulator overnight, and that helped with the stability etc. I didn't even know Buemi was still with them given his WEC committments.
Anyway, Horner was determined to give credit where it was due. Without the simulator work (and, of course, the work into the small hours of those deciphering the data - and then those at the race putting it all into place in time), even Max's brilliance might not have been enough. I know that drivers and managers are often keen to thank everyone at the factory, but this time he seemed to be especially grateful!
Buemi and Jake Dennis are their simulator drivers. Both incredible at their job
Out of curiosity, how does Buemi's simulator work help Max and Redbull?
@@kennetha6594 By testing a lot of different setups that the team don't have time for on the real track. And then finding what works better for the race team to then implement.
@@AntiVaganza ok thanks
@@camillaquelladegliaggettiv4303and Rudy van Buuren is sim driver in weekends that Dennis and Buemi race in FE somewhere…
Lando vs Max battles are going to be a lot of fun to watch if this keeps happening 🤞🏼
Piastri as well remember he got the grid penalty
Yeah, let’s see how good friends they are by the end of the season
@@vikashchandra9917 guy next year could be 2007 all over again... at the same team. How will Zak judge 2026 potential legacy vs immediate glory. Is RBR raided so hard after winning just 1 title (in a run of 4) that their system can replenish functions well internally?
Pisatri too, safety car last race gave the win to Lando, the Pisatri gets a penalty despite being quicker than Lando.....
I'm so happy with current RedBull downtrend ❤. Enough with RedBull always win the races !
In Andreas Stella we trust 🙏
Max should be happy that his substandard car this weekend gave him the opportunity to remind us that he really is a good driver.
This is true but I think Max hates these types of close battles. He's perfectly happy with total dominance.
Yo the car was not good on Friday but they found their groove on Saturday and on race day verstappen was comfortably ahead of Norris until he changed to hards and he was struggling on last 10-15 laps due to his tyres as they had no enough data so frankly the car is still way ahead than we think bro
@@Carlos-ln8fdnot sure about that, this pole & win definitely made him a lot happier on the radio instead of the usual "simply lovely".
@frankhuurman3955 he recently started that he would prefer to be 20 seconds ahead
@@procatprocat9647ah! didn't know :) thanks for that
If in 2018 u told me McLaren would be a top team again & Mercedes would be midfield team I would've laughed in your face
Merc is in a weird spot. I think they're truly the *only* mid field team, or more a 'worst of the best' teams. RB, Ferrari, McLaren are in front and Merc is on their tail but can't compete all things being equal, but then Merc seems like everyone else isn't really a problem to beat. Aston was mid field last year and seemingly dropped back further. Alpine/Sauber/Williams are in the back for sure. Haas seems like they can keep up sometimes, but even though their tire management is MUCH improved, they still start to fall back a bit in the race. The only other weirdo team is VCARB who seemingly can match Merc but only ever one driver at a time maybe kinda, but it looks like at the end of the races Merc can pull away from them.
@@WhiteG60 I get your point. They are indeed drop dead in the middle
That hasn't happened. There is one top team right now - Red Bull. Everybody else is just second rate.
@@pmman4232 sure buddy sure..
@@pmman4232 Yes. With P6 and P18 in quali today. Definitely the only top team.
Max earned a DoTD vote from me today, it's a rare thing, but he really did have to put in a performance for that one, for a change.
Agree. Clearly mclaren was the faster car as seen on quali and race data. He was outdriving that car to its limits once again, something that checo havent done.
@@fullbass1426which quali and race data? He had pole, and not sure which race data you mean. It’s well known Red Bull had engine mode turned down for all the practice sessions.
@@fullbass1426 NO IT'S THE CAR NOT MAX wonder what is their excuse now when max keep winning
Max got a tow from Nico that was worth 0.250 sec
@@Dendyaryadi IF ITS THE CAR then why is checo not even in the fight for a podium then? He could have easily caught up with the mercedes if they had “THE CAR” all weekend long. Stop with that “redbull purposely nerfed checos car” bullshit once again.
Honestly, if Checo continues to underperform and , Mclaren and Ferrari continue at their current rate of progress, we could see a three way fight for the constructor's title.
Lol
I doubt it. Verstappen’s lead over his rivals (which won’t be much smaller by the end of the season, if at all) will be enough to win Red Bull the WCC single handedly, if Ferrari and McLaren keep taking away points from each other
That has been Horners comments since the start of last season…that’s why he NEEDS Checo to deliver…that’s why it’s a question if he will get another contract
@@PauliesWalnutsconstructors WC is points by both drivers. If Checo keeps finishing 5,6,7 and lower RBR won’t be able to beat Ferrari and McLaren in constructors. Checo needs to finish ahead of 1 Ferrari and 1 McLaren each race to win constructors.
We’re not talking abt the drivers WC…
@@Redlingstein
But he’s right. As long as Max keeps winning, it matters very little where Perez ends for the constructors title.
Red Bull is already 56 points ahead. Even if the same team would consistently finish 2nd and 3rd place (which is unlikely in the current situation) Perez would have to score 0 points for 8 races for that team to catch up with Red Bull.
Obviously, I don’t think Verstappen will win every race. But Perez is going to score points, even finish 2nd regularly. And even without that: a 1st and 5th place together counts for more than a 2nd and 3rd…
It’s a very big gap to dream about making up, certainly against the Red Bull. It’s much more for the gap to double than to disappear. Because I don’t believe for a second that Red Bull won’t have (a lot of) dominant days again this season.
We might end up with a title fight in 2025 if this keeps on 👀
Maybe even this year if McLaren keeps this up
Highly doubt it. Max has 8 straight poles, the record.
@@patrickbateman16602025 is next year
@@patrickbateman1660 But their race pace is subpar compared to the McLaren but only later in a stint
@@patrickbateman1660key people are leaving Red Bull this season, remember that
Still a masterclass by max, but the race would never admit that
UK channel. they never will
@@hmjis it they will admit it if Max end up joint Mercedes and do some great result in that car or just he is not British driver lol
Will any Dutch agree that Max wins bcoz of the car? No right?
@@ind-tamilgangsters1956 it’s quite clear that is isn’t only because of the car…
@@ajegelin Yes it is, dont be deluded.
The car may be vulnerable - but the driver still isn't...
I think no one has really talked about is the Red Bull has not been very good when the temperature is hot. They dominated Bahrain, Saudi, China, and Japan because of cooler temperatures. Australia was tough to judge because Verstappen was out after lap 2. But Perez has struggled mightily in Australia, Miami, and Imola.
Perez also struggled when Red Bull won all but one race last year so he is not a good barometer of performance.
Well funny that you say that because Redbull (Hörner and wache ) says quite the opposite . Due to issues bringing the Front tyres up to temperature the redbull loves hotter conditions but Suffers Ich in too cold conditions because they cant get the Front tyres in the right Window. Which does make sense because if you Look at the imola gp and compare surface Temperatures through the whole race you can see that arounf lap 42 -45 Temperatures dropped and thats when the mclaren came Alive and the redbull struggled
Mclaren, Ferrari, Mercedes, Aston Martin, Haas, Visa Cash App RB, Stake, Williams, Alpine dominance might start to bore fans.
maybe gen Z fans. us older fans are used to it. Dominance is a part of the sport. It is mechanically dominated, so the best cars tend to win multiple championship (usually the richest teams, since research and parts are expensive)
@@andreic8786 It's a joke don't take it seriously.
I think the issue last year was there was effectively ZERO chance of anyone but RB winning. During the Schumi years, or even the Merc years, it wasn't wall to wall dominance. Up until 2015 or so, cars weren't NEARLY as reliable as they are now. The chance of a mechanical DNF was always there. It seemed like there was a LOT more tire problems, too. Punctures all over the place. When's the last time someone got a puncture or had tire problems that didn't come from contact with another driver? We used to have tires coming apart at the end of their life and we just don't see that anymore. Basically, if you don't crash, there's an extremely high chance you'll finish the race. The V10s and V12s had a LOT more moving parts built on a LOT more primitive manufacturing processes and materials science than today.
Last year especially, as long as Max started the race, he was going to win it. There was zero chance stopping him except in Singapore unless he had an incident with another car (George in Baku '23, Lewis in Brazil '22). When Lewis or Schumi or even Seb were dominating, there was always a chance for someone else to win. That didn't seem like the case in the later 2/3 of '22 and all of '23.
@@WhiteG60 ain't reading allat
@@Wither255 ok
Aston Martin is the biggest disappointment of this season….
They are just getting back to reality. They can copy teams, but when they need to bring updates, they simply are lost and the car gets worse.
Tbf their windtunnel is not yet up
@@bison-yetistudio2296 noo..Their wind tunnel is already operational…they completed the construction in December 2023….There is no excuse right now..They are far behind in development races…
@@jafrulhaque9820 shoot I forgot
Could it be that the windtunnerl penalty RB received for overspending is catching up now? As the Champions you are already have a reduced number of windtunnel hours but that penalty came on top of this..
From my perspective, I think that Red Bull got too busy with fixing the Car's Setup Issues that They didn't work on their Quali or Race work like Tyre management and Strategy Work.
They only managed to make the car work good enough for Max who did a good Job getting the most out of it while Perez struggled. They weren't sure how the race would turn out nor they had the data. Like Brazil 2022, They didn't manage to get the Tyre data for the Race which could've showed the Hard tyres performance. They only managed to get on Mediums in FP3.
We have to say Max really made a difference out there, putting out the maximum performance while running two races in one day
We'll have to wait for a few races to see is Red Bull really struggling or not. We shouldn't be getting too much excited like we were with Ferrari Upgrade as Red Bull challenger and expected a Mclaren on Pole this weekend 😅😅
I heard about Perez having a damaged floor plate? It explains a part of it.
The other question is what/when RB will bring major upgrades. Ferrari and McLaren have both enjoyed major upgrades, while RB is still on (mostly) the same car from the start of the season.
@@Aefweard According to recent interviews, Adrian Newey is mentioning a certain part of the RB20 is not of his liking at all. He expects the team would bring the updated part later on in this season or next. We'll have to see.
@@RB-tl8cf Well that's on him, if that was due his gravel excursion at Rivazza.
@@abnfalcon3901 How much input does he still have? He's announced he's leaving, and I don't think it's on the best of terms. I imagine that they knew he was on his way out and started to involve other engineers more over the winter. There was talks over the winter of him leaving and the RB fans brushed it off as rumor, but now here we are. It just seems interesting that as soon as it's officially announced that he's leaving, the car seemingly started getting worse despite them bringing upgrades.
They state that Red Bull have been like this for two races when the only reason Max didn't win in Miami was due to the safety car. Without that safety car he would have won. This week despite not being dominant, he still won.
The point is that the dominance has disappeared.
There is still a slight advantage, and variables always exist.
Not sure which part you're missing.
@@procatprocat9647🤓
Indeed but hey, he is now vulnerable, you know.
@@Z4NL Not vulnerable at all. The garbage hard tires gave up on Max, probably a bad batch from Pirelli, as usual. When the car was working properly he was cruising at the front.
Fell asleep only to wake up to the last five laps. From what I picked up of those last five laps was McLaren were quick in the twisty bits but rb still had straight line speed
Its good to see the fight is closer to the front. Problem is the new rules of 2026. Every time we get close racing the rules change
I liked the mood in the cool down room, these guys really know each other well and like and respect each other too - sportsmanshipp at its best, fight as hard as you can and in a way you can still joke together after the race...
I wish these would be told a little slower and a little less screamed. Always sounds panicked to finish within a certain time.
Difficult to watch.
Think Mclaren had the faster car in Imola, but Max put in the better drive and clutched it in qualifying.
Perez showing that the car was anything but dominant today, and hopefully it's a one off and not Perez dropping to his old form, or lack thereof, again.
It says more about Perez than the car being slow. Even last year he had several consecutive q2 exits in the most dominant car ever built. RB is still the fastest car, I get you like max but this is just not true. If it is true then Vettel Schumi Hamilton each also get credit for driving a slower car beyond its limits, because their teammates were slower than them.
@@vikashchandra9917 Nothing indicates the RB was the fastest car today, Norris had better pace.
@@Miragexe I will say nothing indicates that Red Bull was not the fastest car today. See how that argument goes?
@@vikashchandra9917 The fact that he only got pole through a slipstream indicates that, Perez being nowhere indicates that, and Max only winning by 0.7 after repeated mistakes from Lando and having to deal with dirty air shows that.
@@Miragexe till yesterday everyone was denying that the tow had anything to do with the pole lap and it was all max, today it’s the tow in qualifying. Which one is it?
I don't know what the problem is.
First loss this season was max not finishing. 2nd time they lost this season was Norris getting a free pit stop (like literally free). And now max drove away on the mediums and kept Norris out of DRS range til the end.
Max won 2 races in 1 day. Really impressive.
Lol, still insane to realise.... Casually driving the green hell till 11:10/11:20 with smashing every damn 8+mins lap after he got P1. 24H ended just 1/2 hr before his actually GP started not? Think 30mins prior, or 1hr but the overlap is just fun to see i guess.... All humans
Imagine struggling but still wins the race....hope they don't lush the god mode😢now
So basically Red Bull don’t really have much more to squeeze from the car, and McLaren (thus far) have done the best at catching up, with Ferrari a close second, and everyone else is nowhere. Got it.
We clearly saw perez was strugled this week. But max just doing max things.
Everyone forgets how difficult racing gets for the drivers when the cars are following closely just to hype up a bad race
I think the fact that when the Red Bull is being a difficult car yet still capable or winning shows that they’re definitely still a league ahead.
It’s just nice to see a bit more competition at the front
It took a while, but technical dominance only lasts a relatively short time. Once people start to figure out what you're doing and why, things level out.
True but they figured it out fast MB held top spot for almost a decade its only been a few years this time around
@@fullweezy3553 at this point ground effects are pretty common among a lot of different racing series. For example, McLaren entered IndyCar in 2020, and their partner Schmidt-Peterson Motorsports had been running ground effect IndyCars since 2012. Coincidental that McLaren is now second most successful with their F1 design? Perhaps, perhaps not.
It's because Pirelli has been screwing with the tire compound in an effort to make the rest of the Pack closer to RedBull. It's NOT aero development that they would make you believe.
I like that Logan Sargent's icon is backwards
At some point only marginal gains are left and there is convergence. That's what we are seeing and it shouldn't be a surprise.
Max “Michael Jordan’d” this weekend, pure clutch. It’s not the car haters, the boy can drive.
The hip hip hooray hurt as an Aston Martin fan, tough qualifying but hopefully next race we can get some improvement
Just when you thought it was safe to bet on Checo for the podium, his performance graph reverts to last year's.
This was easy to predict sadly. He had a worse start to this season compared to last.
Other teams, especially McLaren, have more development budget (windtunnel/CFD) because they got P4 last year.
I swear, this year RB seems a F1 manager simulation.
Got a dominant car last year? Next year you have minimum regulation changes and everyone gets very close, if you don't perfect the weekend you will fight in the race.
The most exciting thing about this is 2025. We probably won't have a dominant RB again, and Mclaren and Ferrari will be there. But the problem (AGAIN) is the change in the regulations for 2026. Don't discard a 2010-championship battle for next year and suddenly for 2026 we have another team dominating😂😭
McLaren's new aero tunnel really paid off since last year 😁
Yeah, I feel like we all clowned on them for quite a while for saying 'JUST WAIT TILL WE GET OUR NEW WIND TUNNEL!' but I guess it turns out they weren't embelishing or just making excuses.
Even in relative equal machinery now Verstappen due to his quality will still prevail over 24 races.
The bots are out in force again I see
it is so annoying
Yup. Every video has these comments and reporting does nothing
Beep boop
Where?
Chill out. RB have dominated for nearly a full 2 years. The fact that all other teams were sooo far behind development was huge surprise to them. They have been planning for the rest to catch up for a while.....
Exactly!!!
Perez’s seat was only safe because max was dominant. A first and a fifth is more points than a second and third. The moment max isn’t winning every race, Checo is going to be under so much pressure. Qualifying 10th and finishing 5th-7th just isn’t going to fly at redbull.
P1 and pole. they sure seem vulnerable to me!
Even if Max doesn't win every race he will keep getting podiums and has a lovely nestegg of points already. The rest of the wins are split between RB/McLaren/Ferrari it won't switch to McLaren exclusively. I think RB will be fine.
Lmao Lando was not close to winning that race. Media is hyping up the fight for the win at Imola, wtf there was no fight
While some may think RedBull has hit ita ceiling thus teams are closing in fast, i believe that its got to do with a flaw in their latest upgrades. Since their latest upgrades the car has been hard on tires and has been a nightmare in finding the right balance. Something's changed those to fundamentally which affects performance and doesnt give the drivers confidence to maximize the car's potential. I dont think they have reached their peak given that this season they took a new development direction to increase their scope. They surely can't have hit the ceiling after one or just two upgrades.
Just want to highlight the insane amount of engineering that occurs on the fly over the span of just a few days at the track.
It's days/weekends like these where Perez has to be finishing closer to Max.
This race in particular has really exposed Perez' lack of confidence with the RB, consistently running wide and misjudging braking points.
Ed always presents the absolute best racing content.
Since McLaren is 2nd fastest team and can realistically challenge RedBull for the race win, next season they could eventually be on par. It's like in 2020, when RedBull was not as fast as Merc but they sure was 2nd fastest team. Then come 2021, it was pretty even. Imagine we get this again but Lando for Champion 👀
I’ve considerable doubts in Lando being able to deal with that pressure. I also doubt he has the aggression needed to take clutch wins.
But in terms of pace and tyre management. In short yes he has the skills and the talent.
@@barneyklingenberg4078 Oscar will catch and surpass Lando I believe
Would love to see a grassroots fan based effort to postpone the new regulation changes for one year and allow further convergence - expect McLaren, Ferrari, Red Bull would support and also would expect Aston Martin would prefer a new engine and Mercedes just wants to forget this regulation cycle entirely
that new ferrari package looks cool at least
Optimal tyre window. Other teams especially McLaren are doing a very good updates job.
brawn vibes coming….which is funny given who was the chasing team back in 2009
Finally we se closer racing at the top😊😊❤
Vulnerable? Verstappen was cruising throughout the whole drive. Let’s not get ridiculous here and try to make this season exciting, he is way ahead in points and he was leading this race by about 10 seconds for most of this race
4:38 - that’s not a Ferrari with new parts. That’s an image of the pre-Imola upgrade Ferrari 😹
6:00 Logan’s car being backwards 😂😂
Let there be competition
I thought McLaren would be fighting RedBull directly by the end of last year. Glad to see it’s coming together. Win in Miami, largest points tally in Imola
Thanks.
What circuit is the Aston driving at the beginning of the video?
Silverstone
@@coys600at 0:12
It’s incredible how rapidly McLaren have caught up to Red Bull. From verstappen ahead by over 20 seconds in some races to less than one and even losing Miami.
Red Bull isnt under pressure yet but as the season develops we may see more slip ups from RB. McLaren and Ferrari arent far behind now.
They where in p1 and p2 the car was bad
I'm so happy with current RedBull downtrend ❤. Enough with RedBull always win the races !
It is interesting to note that this video about how well or bad the teams are doing is more exciting to watch than the actual F1 race.
The leading cars are reaching the limits of what can be achieved with the physics of a car within the rules. Close racing indeed, when they are separated by fractions of a second.
I must say, this idea that all the cars should be very close to each other all the time because "that's racing" and "it's what the viewers want" has crept in gradually, maybe more since the Americans took over the company. I remember Mansell and Schumacher being a couple of miles ahead by the end of a race and nobody complained. if their engines or hydraulics didn't blow up...
Well said….its like they want to make a surrogate spec series out of F1…the American way…
Aston Martin installed a downgrade
Verstappen will always beat lando,chuck,perez,piastri even on equal Machine
i am so sure that any other driver than max might have chocked in those final laps..
Like Norris. Lando has the pace he has the talent. And he is a marketeers dream.
But he does not have the cut throat mentality of Max and Fernando.
@@barneyklingenberg4078 exactly . so well framed.
McLaren now have the fastest car, but Max is still the fastest driver.
Didnt look vulnerable to me
Yeah that’s what I thought going back to do work stuff 30-40 laps in.
When I rewatched the end though.
Lando had a shot if he did not overcook it the first time he got close.
Now he came just a couple of laps short.
The biggest thing is not the cars getting closer to eachother, that would allways happen once groundeffect became a better understood concept by this generations of F1 engineers and designtrends of competitors were analyzed and copied however much was benificial, RB having a ace in the hole with Adrian Newey and a very competent technical staff.
RB's problem is Sergio Perez, who simply cannot be relied on to be a solid no.2 to Max to keep the competition of Verstappen.
Red Bull would pay almost anything to get a driver in their second car to do what Bottas did for Hamilton at Mercedes for years. Take 2nd place consistently, keep up possible challengers away from Hamilton asmuch as possible and be O.k with being a dedicated second driver in the team.
Perez needs to go!
Well said…but I don’t think Carlos would want to be that role at RBR…
@@Redlingstein With the RB being the fastest car on track, if Sainz could get 2nd or 3rd consistently he would earn more trophy's in a Red Bull then the last 5 seasons put together. Just a thought =)
that McLaren is on fire , they have the best car on the grid for sure
I'm a mclaren fan but i completely disagree, there is still a lot of work needed to fully dial the car up for quali and the start of stints
When things are so marginal. It starts to the blur the lines between what’s the car and what’s the driver.
Max has always been really good in finding the limit on new tyres or changing conditions. This driver trade is what accelerated his path to F1.
Whether they do or not, Lando is definitely feeling that Max confidence
They couldn’t drive a full Quali lap in Miami on those softs without cooking them….both McLaren had bad Quali’s in Miami… so no, not the best car on the grid actually. A competitive car yes, not the best car
Dear Lord, please let someone other than Red Bull win the drivers and contructors championships this year.
The WINDTUNNEL/CFD allocation rules are MEANT to make sure that the other teams catch up….. so OFC THATS HAPPENING!
McLaren was 4th in constructors championship last season so they had A LOT MORE WINDTUNNEL/CFD TIME than RBR and Ferrari….
THIS WAS SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN….RBR said this last season already and at the start of this season, yet ppl kept screaming that their 10% penalty on top of their already low allocation WASNT A TRUE PENALTY…… but those ppl don’t realise that you ONLY CAN see the result of less windtunnel/CFD time after a year, even 2 years. Haters wanted to hate and didn’t want to understand that less windtunnel/CFD time DOES HURT DEVELOPMENT compared to other hard working/developing teams.
I wonder what the engineers at Mercedes Benz think when they see other engineers actually getting it right
Mclaren had the faster car. Redbull just had max. He gets every little bit out of the car. People are somehow putting max and norris on the same level😂😂😂.
As a fan, I am thrilled to see Red Bull under pressure. I came into F1 at the end of the Hamilton/Mercedes dominance, but when Merc was being pressured by Ferrari and then Red Bull. The excitement of the chase is important, and watching Norris edge closer and closer to parity with Verstappen is a lot more fun than watching Verstappen and Perez run away from the field while we see who's fighting for 3rd. I would be very happy to see Merc back in the fight, but having McClaren and Ferrari there is also great and I can't wait to see how a real Verstappen/Norris rivalry plays out. 🙂
Hold up imola only theres many tracks, so calmed down just dont overhype
do you think Aston needs to return to the older spec?
I thought this year was just a scratch for the changes next year.
Thank goodness 🫠
I was a bit shocked to see Lance Stroll finishing in front of Fernando Alonso and what their actual finishing positions are in direct contrast with the car’s recent upgrade package…
Something doesn’t really add up here.
I’m guessing when Aston Martin aerodynamic development facility was enormously upgraded, they’ve decided besides of their rear-/front-suspension, gearbox and their PU to continue putting up with the use of Mercedes CFD’s and aero-software. these being responsible for holding them back on translating data into performance on track.
Besides of keeping Lance Stroll in the team now considering himself as the number 1 driver (soon he will get disposed of into one of his dad’s other teams and becomes an official WEC driver in Newey’s RB17!)
Cant help but wonder if their lack of car dominance this season has anything to do with trying to make the car more drivable for checo
lando jsut needed a chance to show off his talent. McLaren got their stuff together and now it's show time. i wish him all the best.
Leclerc looks dead inside
If you want a lesson in updates and improvements just look at where maclaren were 4yrs ago. Plum last to fighting for wins is clearly impressive.
Aston Martin needs a better second driver that can consistently score points to have a shot at the top 3.
Mercedes didn't make any gainz at all. What are you yapping about
It’s still baffling they would like to keep Checo when Sainz is still available for next year and possibly further
They don't want a challenger or friction of any kind, they want a lickspittle who stays out of Max's way because they won the constructors and theres only one drivers championship trophy.
Yuki also available
@@madLphnt
As he said, Sainz is available.
@@paarker C'mon, Sainz can be a headache to Max
because you are not really judging the performance metrics well. Perez is as good as Sainz, and the RB car advantage is overblown. Perez is as good as Alonso is, but so is Bottas, Ricciardo, Ocon, Gasly. They are really good, but it is the "go hard and see just racing", and the experience of hard racing, that made Alonso stand out some. They are all equal drivers. Baseline is, that Max is as Better than LeClerc, as LeClerc is from Sainz. There is 2 scoops worth between Verstappen and Perez, or Saint, as far as a really noticeable difference in the performance ceiling. Max is the best of all of them by a clear head, except for LeClerc, and even then he is from the upper lip up better still. Neither LeClerc or Sainz are as good as you paint them to be.