The Appeal To Community
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- Опубліковано 29 сер 2024
- "Another mark of a tyrant is that he likes foreigners better than citizens, and lives with them and invites them to his table; for the one are enemies, but the Others enter into no rivalry with him."
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I love how people who don't even know what a good family is think they could create a utopia
maybe the dysfunctional family is what helped mould their personalities into misanthropic busybodies?
It falls directly in line with people who don't understand 9th grade economics thinking they know how to fix the economy
@@jiggycalzone8585 one of those lacking 9th grade economics unfortunately is an elected congresswoman with an econ degree
@@montgomeryfitzpatrick473 dude, tits and dirty knees took a hyena to the Vice Presidency right now 💡
@@mistahsusan2650 authoritarians are created in excessively stable families 😂
"I spoke with members of the community."
Translation: I spoke with the loudest idiots who claimed to be part of this particular group.
Same as it ever was.
😂 I like this
what they say: i have a non sexual aromantic love based relationship with a another human identifying being in which we do favors to each other and hangout in regular intervals
what they mean: I have a friend
The unlikely part: people like that have friends
Anyone speaking like that is so desperate to redefine language they make timber look emotionally available.
When they have to make everything somehow sexual even when it's explicitly not sexual
“Just be yourself!”
“NOOOOO! YOU HAVE TO BE YOURSELF THE WAY I WANT YOU TO BE YOURSELF!”
Being yourself is kinda cringe anyways. Be better than yourself.
@@nsanenbrane53
So true, there are some parts of you that you just can't accept or love, and nothing wrong with wanting to change that part of yourself.
Nothing wrong with self-improvement.
"God dammit, I didn't realize that freedom and equality don't actually mix, and this 100 year gay swindle to make liberalism into socialism is starting to dry up, and now we're doubling down on it like autism on crack! Reeee!"
@@nsanenbrane53 Yes, but you need to choose to be better than yourself, and what better way to know, than through education.
@A Jim Fan As well as exercising, engaging in healthy social interactions, not constantly engaging in indulgence, etc.
"Loving humanity is a fiction. You can love individual people."
Tolstoy (paraphrasing)
Suddenly, everything makes sense, like how they don't care about sacrificing small businesses in riots for their cause, as well as the wellbeing of people locked in their houses. This is, of course, as long as they're not the ones strapped to the altar. One must find a balance; don't ignore the big picture but don't leave behind those you know.
Of course they never cared about sacrificing small businesses, wether it was from covid or riots - the further left you go, the more hatred for capitalism there is, and what's a better representative of capitalism than a small business? Not some big faceless corporation, but a family owned buisness not just surviving, but thriving. It goes against everything terrible they say about how bad capitalism is because it's an individual succeeding and going against their narrative of communism and anti-capitalism.
Moderation is the Key.
@@Sigurther Never thought of it that way. I always assumed if you're going to destroy someone's business you attack the weakest target and the larger businesses also have the ear of politicians and ultimately the police/prosecutors. Or a combination of all three motivations.
@@feliperisseto9113 I feel like that is also an appeal to community isn't it? Since it depends pretty much on the political Overton window (which can be shifted).
Claiming to know the big picture is the height of arrogance at best and a blatant lie at worst.
This is why I embrace individualism.
hello Fren
@@freedomgoddess ah yes. A fren thread
💪🏻
Become conservative....we have casseroles and church bingo 🙏
Community is better though.
"No reverse cowgirl because you can't turn your back on family."
- Dom Toretto-nii-chan
Wait so no doggy either?
@@shapshooter7769 Naw. That's *having* your family's back.
@@kerrychristensen7204 Nice.
@@kerrychristensen7204 I love you man
18 cowboys in the showers at ram ranch
*_"Sold to us by the Media"_*
What the hell?
"Family is what you make it" has been a CONSISTENT media pushed idea for around 40 years now. I can't even stand Fast/Furious because the only related character are Dom and his sister (and they made the brother evil in the last one).
It's inherently toxic because instead of working through problems and getting along they instead just defoo and detach from anyone that gives them pushback or criticism. Leading to a bubble of constant affirmation and hugboxing.
My dad may be kind of cold, but he was right that I should let my sister cut my hair for her Beauty School final despite it being meaningful to me. Whereas my co-worker said, and I quote: "if he was my dad I would have told him to fucc off".
This is what happens when people are taught to disregard the family unit. It's a subversive tactic used by autocrats through out history.
I know what you mean, my father was always a cold man (I don't think we've ever hugged and I'm in my 30s).
But the times in my life I've been out of my depth he's the one person I never had to ask for backup.
It wasn't until I had a daughter on the autistic spectrum I realised how he is likely on there too, and saw the insane lengths he went to give us more than he ever had. He's been shat on his entire life, and I regret being too blind to see it in my teens, but he's never held it against me. The 'community' will turn on me the second I commit facecrime, so, no thanks.
The messaging surrounding family was pervasive 20 years ago but it's choking now.
@@justinbotkin
But why though? What’s their reasoning for using these subversive tactics? What’s their gain?
Kind of hard for me to agree considering I cut my dad out of my life when I was ten. Then again, my dad was a serial criminal.
@@SleepyMatt-zzz his failures didn't provide you the example you should follow. That you cut him off from what you are building in your life has enough value to pass on.
That heatmap explains why Star Wars introduced a literal rock as a character...
My eyes were playing tricks man....I read rock as cock for a minute and was like "Whoa....they done went pervy." Then I rubbed my eyes and saw rock.
Gotta love it.
@@matthewgordonpettipas6773 the rock has a scene where it "talks" about Jedi sexual relationships. Your brain was just ahead of the curve
@@allantidgwell5624 Ah....Jedi sexual relationships.....I'm sure that's a conversation starter.
Holy fuck you're right
@@matthewgordonpettipas6773 it's about the same as when Anakin talks to Padme about the Jedi promoting universal love. It's distilled cringe
A direct quote from Into the Dark
"... when Affie and Geode tried to explain the Jedi to him. 'How are you supposed to prove love to the galaxy at large if you don't know how to love any one individual person?' Affie shrugged as she double-checked their readings. The wavering blue light of hyperspace glinted off every bit of metal in the cockpit, making it look beautifully electrified. Even Geode sparkled slightly. She said, 'You don't have to have sex with someone to love them. You should know that if anyone does' 'Indeed I do. But other beings seem to value copulation as a form of bonding.' Leox then made a face and swore 'Not appropriate. Sorry.' He meant well, she knew, but Affie hated it when he treated her like a kid instead of as an equal. Fortunately he didn't do that much. 'It's okay. I think I heard of sex once already'"
Typing those last sentences made me feel physically ill. This book is targeted to preteens and they seem to be reenforcing the OK Groomer meme
Broke: Crimes against the State
Woke: Crimes against the Community.
I put my trust in indivduals and not groups and institutions!
Communities are good though. One of the points in this video is how right wingers support legitimate communities to their own benefit.
@@yekkub9425 yea but the video also points out that said legitimate communities are made of individuals that consentually interact with one another, and are not bound solely by ideological fiat
@@lionskrike3753 Yeah. It's also important to acknowledge that these groups are partly held together by social pressures too. There is a stigma for abandoning your family and thsts a good thing.
Put your trust in God instead.
I just had my newphews come over a couple days ago, got to see my brother, saw my parents have fun and play with their grandkids, and generally enjoying each other's time and company.
I'm only 24, but the older I get the more I realize, that's the shit that matters. I feel bad for anyone who doesn't experience that, and are only invested in politics.
True. Families make societies, which politics can't exist without. To replace family with some collectivist perversion is the ultimate devolutionary step, cause it ignores basics of human biology and psychology. It is a true evil deed, no matter how it's done and for what it is done. Some things are hard coded into the universe like the laws of physics, and humans being designed to live in families and tribes is one. We've had cohesion using those simple concepts, but every time we start with some ideological "family" the cohesion gets lost. I'd cut the shit and go full primal until people finally learn how humans work, but that's just an opinion. You can only get collectivists after you make such a stable and cohesive society, that there is no existential crisis. Cause only then do people get the time to not do anything and bitch about their feelinings and what they think is fair. Nobody bitched in the SSSR cause everyone was working to not starve or freeze to death.
Yea I actually thought everyone was like this, I always had my entire family around, we all live close to one another, grandparents, uncles, aunts, cousins, all involved in our lives.
Without such significant ties, is it any wonder how often the left end up turning on each other?
@@613harbinger316
The greatest irony is most of them do have those ties, but they severed them for their daydream causes. They could come back to their family anytime and admit they were wrong, but their rotten sense of morality doesn't let them, cause they think they will be worthless and kicked in the face. They do not know people can show mercy, cause they lack the ability themselves. Mercy, such a simple word and gesture, yet entire countries were built and razed because of it. I still believe most of them just need a good long talk with someone genuinely interested helping them find peace, one they can't run away from. Or failing that, a beatdown so severe they will remember why they got it till they die. Some people only listen to violence, cause their ears are plugged up with their own words. In the end, everyone must admit defeat against himself at least once, it is the only way we learn how to control ourselves, even when it hurts. A man with no self control is not a man, but a humanimal. Having the brain to control our urges, but not oppose them completely, is what makes humans successful. Oppose nature, you die in agony, let go of your mind, and your life is nothing but an autopilot of needs. We were made to interact, pairbond, reproduce, or failing that, adopt, and pass our own achievements and knowledge to our children, in hopes that one day we will be among the stars, spread across the universe, but still coherent, unbroken by time or infighting. Not like this. Not like what we have now. We are broken without even having to put up a fight. Just hope that we're able to piece ourselves together again. Humanity is tough, but unfortunately, we can destroy ourselves as easily as ripping paper. I've rambled on for too long. The things we could have achieved...had we not wallowed in misery and just decided to solve our problems. But no, keeping problems alive and only ever focusing on solving things that are always going to exist, that was our course of action. We could have already had enough planets under our belt so the earth never starves, we could have mined asteroids so we never run out of resources, and ultimately, we could use generational ships to escape the blast radius of our sun when it evolves. But no, we would rather roll in our own filth while crying how fucked we are on this blasted watery space rock. We need so little to be great, and yet, the ones we call leaders, rip that out of us, they rip out the cohesion family gives, just to replace it with their own artificial perversion of family, which causes incohesion, splits people away instead of giving them common ground to cooperate on. Sad things, that we repeat the same mistakes for all our history, while good people make our tech progress, we reward them with pain and suffering, for daring to point out the inefficiencies of any state. And then we wonder why everything stagnates once bureocracy takes over. They have no motivation to improve the world, they can just tax everyone more, someone with a family does have motivation, they want to see their sons and daughters enjoy life more and live longer than them, after they perish. A bureocrat has no such concerns, he has connections using which he knows his offsprings, both legitimate and not, will be taken care of after he dies, even if he kills the country he works for. Why should he care about improving the world, when he can extort people for the resouces he wants?
Those are the peaceful moments that you fight for.
I miss New Guy.
The last innocent hero we should have had.
Heroes can't be innocent. They make the decision to be good, after undergoing strife.
@@Usammityduzntafraidofanythin you know what new guy was? right?
@@Usammityduzntafraidofanythin you've clearly never heard of an Aspirational Hero. They're good just because good is who they are at their very core
@@allantidgwell5624
And his name is Jesus. Read about him instead of all these fictional "heroes" you love to whine about.
@@wakkaseta8351 "Jesus" never existed. The character is an amalgam of previous mythological figures and messianic figures around at the time such as Simon bar Kokbah, Judas of Galilee, Simon of Peraea, Theudas, Athronges... this list gets pretty long
Life of Brian is more accurate to actual history than the Bible is. Try reading actual historical texts instead of apologia for your particular brand of mythology
It's ironic, being preached to about lacking empathy for one's fellow man & being a self absorbed individualistic sociopath by people who can't bear to so much as be in the same room with their own family.
They seem to care about the *idea* of people. But can't actually maintain lasting relationships. They all seem to hate their parents, never talk to their siblings, hate their boss, think themselves above their coworkers, bounce in & out of romantic and/or sexual relationships, and lament how hard it is to still have friends in your 30s.
These are the people envisioning a society where everyone cares for each other, sacrifices of themselves for each other, trusts each other with their livelihood, listens to each other, supports each other emotionally... all for total strangers.
sounds like you're describing the "dark triad" of personality traits. people who are sneaky and deceiving, but always looking for ways to get above everyone else in life.
Honestly... and this is clear from many comments... how else do you survive in a social species, when you are too weak to survive alone? You are a social pariah but can’t build your own house and hunt your own food??
You have to point to a global set of values and find other arseholes who also need to do the same.
Ultimately, it just seems like the FAR Left are shit people who are doing the only thing left to survive because they can’t succeed in the normal social hierarchies. If their politics didn’t lead to massive mental illness and genocide it would almost be amusing. It very much looks like the spaceship full of losers from Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy.
I think that too many people these days don't understand that when we talk about online communities, the term "communities" is being used as an analogy and that some message board or subreddit filled with scattered people that happen to agree with you on almost everything isn't meant to be a replacement for local involvement and building relationships in your real life community. People feel that it's acceptable to ignore their friends, families and neighbors so long as their Twitter following approves of them, but this leads to an emptiness that probably explains the general unhappiness of the online leftists more than frustration over the existence of wrongthinkers, which is where they tend to lay the blame.
As some manga put it: "Do you really know someone, when all you know is their name?"
Take it another step, the online world provides little verification for whom these folks are, unless you take that risk and introduce yourself through a call or some more real connection.
I don't use the word community unless I'm talking about my local parish. You're all random people on the internet. With no way of verifying who you are or where you live or what you do or how you really think, I take any comments with a pinch of salt. I debate, I ponder, I think upon, then I rejoin the real world and explore ideas with my real friends, then I form an opinion.
@@elias_xp95 Sensible but that seems to be in short supply.
"community" tends to lead into very bad faith arguments, as an implication to a group that may not even exist, but can be used as a weapon supposedly on their behalf.
It's leftover Baby Boomer guilt.
Their parents were sold on WW2 being about German world domination, but their kids were media fed MLK marches and concentration camp prop.
Ew. An anime pfp.
@@thhrjdh5564 Ew. A normie
@@Zal0vid sorry. I'm not a degenerate pedo.
@@thhrjdh5564 Bruh, you aren't helping your arguments by painting with that broad of a brush
they also use "community" to add a positive sounding veneer to otherwise blatantly bigoted statements. outraged shouting about "the black community" is more palatable to the general public than outraged shouting about "the black race"
It also allow them to gatekeep identities. 'You may be black but you disagree with me, so you aren't part of the community'. "If you don't vote Biden you ain't black"
@Wind Rose and I was talking about idpol
Edit: the quote is:
"If you have a problem figuring out whether you’re for me or Trump then you ain’t black"
Which he apologized for saying he shouldn't have been so aggressive and not by clarifying he meant statistics
@Wind Rose that's epic, dude. You should be his PR. Because he did get a bit of backlash about it
You literally cannot have a community without discriminating against someone, otherwise it's not a commune, it's just a collective. They don't want communities, they want Collectives.
Not exactly, they discriminate freely against wrong-thinkers and exclude them from the utopia. Something like: Step 1.) Centralize Power and/or Resources, Step 2.) Distribute Power and/or Resources to people that check my preferred boxes, Step 3.) ???, Step 4.) Utopia.
Are we surprised? These people tend to favor things like government and unions because they have this innate belief that they're always going to be in the in-group, not the outsiders.
So dev finally identifies the disease that Razor identified over 10 years ago(That being collectivism). Dev has finally caught up with the fist.
Can you link that video so I can watch it?
Mmmh, razorfist
But when will we get Dev spinning in his chair?
@@RevantheBlack give it three years tops if we keep spamming for him to get one.
@@RevantheBlack dev would probably be chanting "I'm sorry I was right" while spinning instead due to his Canadianness
Im literally the opposite. I have no friends, and my only strong relationships are my Dad and my Sister.
I am the same. Only really socialize with a couple friends and my family
Make sure you find some friends with similar hobbies.
I know it's not easy to "Just make some friends 4Head" but it's valuable for your well being to be around people with similar goals.
@@eaglebearer kinda hard when your hobbies get highjacked by people that are prone to stabbing you in the back if you say something their cult finds 'problematic' .
Lovely people exist. You just need to find them. Have a family of your own so your existence doesn't end with you. The only thing worse than dying is dying alone. I love you man. Noone deserves to go a second thinking they have none. Noone deserves that fate. I almost had it.
So you think that the only people that are forced to know you are coincidentally also the best people to be around?
“The nuclear family was a mistake” was actually a fantastic article. It is about all the things that need to be paid for now when extended families used to take care of them for free. Day cares and nursing homes are solutions to modern problems that we created.
For real, multigenerational housing has been demonised in America to the point living with parents is seen as a failure.
And all just to drive sales of houses. Sometimes people just get fooled way too easily.
Interesting.
Funny how all those anti family activists always argue that a bigger biological family unit is superior...
@@vaclavjebavy5118 What they refer to in practice means being cramped in small flats in big numbers. Just look at those living conditions in California, where there are 20 people cramped into a single flat, with no privacy whatsoever, and only one closet and a bed to call their own, the rest is shared.
From photos it doesn't look any different than Auschwitz.
Oh and living there is ironically expensive as hell.
@@buragi5441 That's communes, no? I've seen small scale extended family accommodations, most likely it would be a large suburban or rural house.
But yeah, it would be incredibly difficult and bad to stuff extended families into city flats.
"When you are asked to love everybody indiscriminately, that is to love everybody without any standard, to love them regardless of whether they have any value or virtue, you are asked to love nobody." Leftist love of everybody is meaningless. The positives of community, self-love and universal concern are all covered by individualism.
They're perpetual abusers trying to find their relationship.
They love their fellow humans so much that they'll beat them while saying "See? Why are you making me do this to you? Don't you see how much I love you? Why are you trying to make me angry and do this to you?"
Creeps.
@@eaglebearer I don't know whether to laugh or be worried. Probably both...
This sounds kinda like atheist cringe though
@@yekkub9425 It comes from an atheist but it certainly isn't cringe.
As a Catholic we are asked to love everyone, but we don’t have to like them. When we say love everyone means you treat everyone with love and kindness. For ex. If Obama was in quicksand, despite me not liking him I would make an effort to save him. We should not wish ill will nor laugh at them when something truly horrible happens to them.
everytime, its either one:
1) check the hard drives
2) ask about the relationship with mom and dad
3) both
never fails.
I love community, abed and the Dean are my favorite characters
Six seasons and a movie
*HA!*
*GEHHHHH*
Community sucks
Britta’s the worst!
@@troyounce3295 Yep, the older you get the more the show really starts to stink.
A community, in the most self centered term, is the people in your personal life. The neighbors from across the street you've known for years, the nerdy kid that helps your son with his homework, the friendly old man with the cool bush sculptures in his yard. And in the most broad sense, the community is the nation: the people that, alongside yourself, are heirs of a cultural and historical legacy that ties you together as a people.
Historically you could say that a gay community has existed. By necessity of the social standards of old they had evolved a theive's can't style of communication of sorts. But now that acceptance of Gay relations is mainstream and cases of ostracization become less common, such ties do not exist anymore. There is no gay community, it died with its integration into the national one, which for any ostracized group should always be the main goal. The family, the local community and the nation are the only legitimate collectives outside of economic associations.
I am so sick of hearing the term community
Sure the final season wasn't that good But it's a good show
I can see why I have conservative views.
I have always hated the Feminist myth that "there is no difference among females" and "all women are special", because it eliminates "Beta Females" and makes all females "Alpha Females", yet as men we are still subdivided into these categories.
I mean, just watch dev's video on femcels. Or consider what it might be like to be an ugly woman. There clearly are beta and alpha females. And Feminists are aware of them; they just cope by blaming objectification or beauty standards.
Men also cope with the beta/alpha thing by stereotyping Alpha as violent jerks or trying to justify being a cuck. I know incel is another word the left is ruining, but there are legit beta incels, like Elliot Rogers, who literally think they deserve sex and can't cope with that.
Whats alpha female?
Above average
Dostoyevsky - The more I love humanity in general the less I love man in particular.
I'm very apprehensive about the notion that any society needs the sort of universalism that's prevalent among leftists. That's the world view that sees no problem with the draconian moral calculating of Mao and Trotsky. Universalists fixate on the abstract and value it over the actual human costs of implementing their beliefs. What's a few hundred million lives weighed against the whole of life in the future? What's a few thousand cases of children being groomed if society becomes diverse and inclusive?
'Muh community' is just a rhetorical trick allowing the writer to appeal to majority when they don't actually have majority support.
why join them if you could beat them,
they play the high horse all in though, instead of looking desperate, they demand allies
certainly that would count as a power structure lol
The difference between a place and a community is what makes a place worth living in.
I think again this goes back to the Jordan Peterson argument which is to have long lasting impacts on your family friends and community you need to “set your own house in order first” I think with our culture we expect others to pick up the first wrench so to speak before we do but ultimately we should try to pick it up first. Even if you are not perfect as long as you get better then you are succeeding it seems people today can’t handle any criticism. I fuck up, we all fuck up but taking your mistakes and building upon them and learning from them is what builds communities. Not throwing off your problems onto others and getting clout from them which leftists seem so fond of. “Why am I depressed? “It’s because no one calls me by my preferred pronouns!!!” “Why can’t I succeed in life, it’s because the capitalists control everything!” What they don’t realize is they have the tools to get their house in order without forcing others to conform to their views. What bonds us is our struggles. Life sucks and we may have more differences than similarities but we all want what’s best.
I think you may have missed a factor... seems to me that leftist believe that you create a government body to tackle the problem(for example a city lot that is a garbage dump...create a board, pass edicts, collect a taxes to fund a clean up) and the right will think it is better the individual choose to do the moral thing to better their own life(the neighbors to the dump get together with the block to have a fund raiser to raise funds so the block can clean up the mess and raise the value of their property)
@@jesshorn257 yes that too leftists seem to think that a few people know what’s best for all people. Granted I think many community focused programs seem to work fairly well but the higher you get (federal level) the more detached they become and end up hurting more people than they help. This isn’t ALWAYS true but generally it is. The issue also is that when the government steps in you rely on IT to set YOUR house in order but it never works.
If you give a lefty a wrench you're going to end up with cars missing their wheels and smashed up store fronts...
The situation we're faced with is more akin to JP's talk about competencies and systems, that how if you direct a person to go fix a complicated system like a helicopter the odds are you're just going to make things significantly worse. All the left does is 'empower' people with hammers, and everything that sticks up are nails.
Farther dude... YOUR culture expects someone else to pick up the first wrench.
This is a massive massive massive issue. You are actually doing precisely what Dev was talking about. You are extrapolating your personal views and experience to the broader culture and that’s not appropriate.
The Left will often talk about lived experience, which is another way of saying ANECDOTE, which is worthless to change a society with... unless you are just cherry picking the right anecdotes to justify the acquisition of power 💡 💡 💡 💡
My experience is that no one picks up a wrench first for you. They pick up a wrench for themselves. They are interested in their interests, and if that helps you out as well then you are lucky.
But no. A lot of people don’t think they are leaders, a lot of people don’t think they are wrench users, but the culture never passes that responsibility of the first wrench, because nothing gets done. Passing the buck is what you are saying and that’s the cancer of society.
This isn’t a jab, as much as a reality check - it sounds like you’re accepting a lack of agency as common, yet the only people that accept their lot are losers. Try to move forward and things get better.
@Zealadinn I may have used a poor choice of words... to be honest I meant it as a collective vs individualist(on the right vs left scale it seems left go towards the collective side). If you take the city lot example and then expanded it to a federal level I think it is were you can see the difference. To use an example the gun crime in NYC would make it seem wise to ban all guns in the nation(left view) compared to Increase patrols and more strict law and order in the city(right view). left(collective) seem to want a universal effect that effects all citizens share in the paying and enforcing, were as the right(individualist) thinks that the needs of regions should be tailored to the area(clean up your own backyard will improve the city/nation)
the truly loveless are the ones who love everything. nothing more evil than blind empathy.
"I'm sorry my daughter but I must let the wild dogs eat you. They're so hungry, and being vegan, we don't have meat to offer them."
when you said “trans and gay individuals” I felt something, reminded me of my days as an active member of the furry fandom back when it was super individualistic while still being tight knit, it was a great time bur as time went on it became collectivist and horrible and I hate it
Good old time...
I am always incredibly skeptical when people try to force the label of "community" on any group of people with a given interest or trait, because it's almost always followed by that person trying to claim to speak for the collective they just willed into existence. Just because I have a car doesn't mean I'm part of some "automobile community" with all my fellow car-havers. Sure, we might have some interests in common, for example well-maintained roads, cheap gas and fewer traffic jams, but other than opinions that are specifically pertinent to owning and using a car we're probably as unified as any random sample of people out there.
Be wary of anyone who tries to lump you into a collective because there's almost always some nefarious intent behind it.
Right, they could say I'm part of the "Magic the Gathering Community" or the "TTRPG Community" but I know a few people who play those games that I would not only disagree with a lot of their opinions on (both in and out of the games) but would also try to actively avoid, therefore going against the basic idea of Community.
The car "community" (it does exist but it's mostly filled with car enthusiasts) have various sub groups and mini factions within it. One may call it a fandom, but it's not a community though. They all share a love for cars.
@@silverprimus321boi9 To be clear, I am not saying that there are no communities or subcultures around cars, of course there are. My point is that owning a car doesn't make you a car enthusiast; it doesn't mean you're active on forums, watch or participate in races, or even know how to fix the damn thing if something breaks.
I think it's a helpful example because it highlights how absurd it is to act like one shared interest suddenly creates some sort of hive-mind collective.
"Is that just and idea sold by the media?"
How those people think humanity worked before tv?
Low intelligence combined with poor perspective... they don’t really have the ability to think outside the box which is why they pass that responsibility to the leaders of their Community 😉
they're faux nihilists, they don't give a fuck about humanity, yet walk the line lol
basically they hate themselves and their lives, and blame the rest of the world for their mentality.
i'm a semi autistic headcase, but these people are plain retarded... they'll believe anything and learn NOTHING from observing
Shush.
We’re not allowed to make actual points.
I feel as though the effect of tap water and chicken nugget malnourishment during childhood is being under-sold.
The modern lifestyle demonstrably hurts brain development in children.
These rootless people have only 1 question to you, your family, children, and locality
Do you want to be plundered? yes or no?
*yes or yes?
is that pirate speech for getting some booty?
The appeal to community is very much like a religion, a sort of “What is best for the church” where it is assumed that everyone agrees and you can tell how popular or unpopular a policy is based on attendance with masses or other ceremonies like that. The problem with all of the other communities that are appealed to by leftists is twofold. First, there is no initiation into the group that is marked by an undertaking that upholds the principles of that group. This would be baptism in Catholicism, stuff like that. Second is that you can’t poll how much people there are in the group due to lack of ceremonies on a regular basis. Protests occur every now and then, but it happens without consistency. It means that at the end of the day, what they’re appealing towards is an ideal that cannot be quantified or measured, making it a paper tiger.
It's a very disorganized community. Imagine a tribe like that with their mindsets.
Now compare it to a family with blood connection, close friends with similar ideals, and a community that fosters love over revolution.
Many leftists have some mommy and daddy issues. They need a hug bad.
Pro tip: if you want a good relationship with your family, you actually have to reach out and try to have one.
Every relationship is a two-way street. A close-knit family isn't a right or some phenomenon that just magically appears. All those times you remembered a distant relative, realized you hadn't seen or heard from them for months or maybe even years? If you wanted a closer relationship with them, that'd have been the clue to start reaching out to them and keeping in touch.
I use my community tab to post Memes I find on discord.
Real life community is more focused on planning play dates for the kids and shieet.
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🐍 no step on Snek! 🇺🇸🇭🇰
The hordes of hell are upon us Snake Dude...but we are armed and prepared to repel boarders and embrace breeders
What did he mean by this?
@@yekkub9425 me or snake dude?
@@oldluke7653 Snake dude
@@yekkub9425
Yes.
"In Europe and in the countries beyond Europe which have been influenced by our civilization, the standards by which behavior is assessed, and, in consequence, licensed or condemned, rest eventually on the old Roman law which provided, or at least aimed at providing, justice between citizens and between the citizen and the state. By the founders of the Soviet civilization it was laid down that the standard of morality, and consequently of justice, is the welfare not of the individual, but of the community, and that by this standard, and this standard only, behavior is to be assessed and rewards and punishments are to be distributed."
-Dark side of the moon, accounts of Polish survivors of Soviet occupation and life in the USSR
Correlation vs. causation: what actually happens is, as you have a family, and care about them, you become more conservative.
That last "I love you" felt very personal for some reason...
IKR, hes the only person, from whom it feels genuine
@@Snooopy28 Dev does feel like the one of the only few political youtubers who are genuine.
Adam and Sitch being the other 2.
Cause we are a community
The great deceivers. Their detachment from other makes it very easy to follow the "the ends justify the means" motto.
"Corpo" has actually become a term that is being used in real life. Thanks Cyberpunk 2077.
Irish people used it too (althpugh we tend to just throw an o onto the end of every word)
"Corpo" was used all the way back in Deus Ex.
It's a cyberpunk thing in general. Or maybe it's a dystopian thing in general, seeing as how the world's going.
I am a gay furry, but I have never felt part of the gay community, the LGBT community, or the furry community, because whatever was spread as "the views of the community", did not match with what I believed. This upsets me, because I used to feel like there was an actual community, when it was all about being chill, having fun, enjoying life. It was a goal of mine to aspire to. Now its all about very divisive politics, that one would have to be very ignorant to see as universally correct, or things that everyone has to agree on.
I honestly think at least for the USA the sense of "Community" has long since passed, sure you can find small communities in small towns or in small hobbies but all it would take is someone with enough religious zeal to step in and cause things to crumble. No the sense of community in America is all but gone and forgotten
Meanwhile my area which is very religious in regards to Abrahamian faiths (Catholics, Christians, Protestants, Jews, and new age Muslims)has one of the closest communities I know
@@hiddendesire3076 this is the biggest load I've ever heard. Reminder that "judeochristian" is a hilarious fabrication.
@@shoopoop21 only my Jewish friends refer to it as Jude-Christian values
Deeply subversive
"community" has gone beyond the village square because with the digital age you can converse with someone thousands of miles away... but you can still have community that have enough of a shared culture, 2a, religion, hobbies, ect... also the small rural still have the "community" feel because the majority will share a culture close enough that extreme views will have a hard time taking root as it will go against parts of your own family structure more then likely.
The community(s) in America were definitely destroyed but not because of a couple zealous eggs within a given community.
I think the problem with the lefts conception of collectivism is that it is in essence not oriented towards people with real community or shared interest but rather an amalgamation of complete strangers with no real sense of community gearing towards some vague idealistic goal that disguises itself as community. This I think is a product of industrialized society. Collectivism is important to some extent but only when it serves the actual community of people who have a shared interest in the goals rather than individuals with no affinity for anyone else benefiting over others.
“There are no true friends or bonds, just power. People exploiting other people because they are more powerful “
Your understanding of the problem becomes clearer when combined with the Leftist power narrative.
Once you realise that their collective ideas are merely “Practical Sociopathy 101” then it makes more sense.
Only the true sociopath actually believes this. But there are enough useful idiots for this to be a real issue on a macro scale.
I spent my sophomore and Junior years in high school being so anti-social that not only did I not have any friends, but I barely had anyone who I would talk to in the hallway or in class. It led to depression in my senior year and I’m still repairing my social life and catching up in social skills.
Don’t be a sociopathic dipshit who doesn’t care about the small, non political bits in your life. It’s not fun.
The ending bit reminded me a lot of louis Rossman's thoughts on similar situations "Don't accept the premise of assholes"
Right leaning care about individuals until those individuals are homeless and present an inconvenience to them
Mmmm... are you sure about that? In my community it was the conservatives who actually came out and did something for the homeless. Liberals were more concerned staying away from them during covid.
Diversity is the death of community. Multiple studies have confirmed that the more diverse a community is, the less likely the neighbors are to interact with each other and the less likely that people go outside of their homes at all. Whether it's ethnic tensions or religious tension, there is always tension with diversity. A real close-nit community can not be diverse. It simply never works. On a smaller level you can see the transformation of cities like Baltimore from clean and hard-working in the 50s to crime ridden 3rd world hole it is today. On a larger scale we have countries like Yugoslavia and Rhodesia as examples.
Homogeneity is strength, cohesion, stability, security and prosperity.
I think it all depends on scale. I think it’s perfectly possible to have a diverse group of friends if your friendship is based on shared interests/hobbies that transcend things like race/gender/sexuality/ethnicity. But a full-blown community? That’s a different story. Oftentimes in communities people allow their characteristics to determine their views and by extension who they do and don’t hang out with.
Right wingers like overarching abstract concepts too they're just economics, individualism (as opposed to 'i just care about individuals I know'), classical liberalism, etc etc so they get ignored. These things are outside of popular culture now.
This is why I love embracing individuals.
I like you SFO! You're a good guy, with a solid heart and mind. Thanks.
"I dropped my brother off at college 18 years ago and haven't spoken to him since"
This is a broken person. This is a person whose view and frame of relationships are so skewed that community can only exist to them in the hypothetical. This person has no connections past superficial and I can promise you they've had less face to face conversations than they have twitter conversations and less twitter conversations than they've had arguments. We should not be taking advice on how to better society from people who can't fathom its existence.
Yep, and we still allow them in our society
I mean I totally get people who have terrible families... Or adversely are so terrible to their families that they are terrible back at them. Especially in today's "I'm right, you're wrong, dispute me and I hate you" Culture.
I have a ton of family. I don't hate any of them. Bar an uncle by marriage who did my aunt wrong.
While I don't have anything to talk to most of them about; I still am very fond of them and love them unconditionally and always reach out when I can. But I do have core family who I identify with on a cultural and ideological level. Family that is so close we always talk like old friends.
We are a part of each others lives.
We mourn when we lose.
We celebrate when we gain.
And I was psyched at a chance to meet my cousin's baby because he was like a brother to me.
My other side of the family is... Different. Nobody talks. Greed and lifelong grudges have torn a rift.
Factionalization in families is real.
The tribes will split into their smallest stable configuration.
And if you aren't in a tribe either your family is dead or somebody is just incompatible.
Humanity first, community and country second is the one position from the left here that makes more sense IMO. But I'm a futurist that wants to see us become a space faring civilization in my lifetime. Here's to when we're the galactic human empire.
I haven't heard of this, lockdowns made people go wholesom phenomenon. Could you do a video on it?
Obi Wan: Anakin, my allegiance is to my family, to the INDIVIDUAL!
Anikuwu (trans, bi, RadFem, lgbtiqrespect): If you're not a part of this community, then you're my enemy! REEEEEEE
Great video
Anathema is pronounced uh-NA-thuh-muh
Uuuuuuh Ronald Weasley. It is uh-Nah-tha-muuuh.
@@shoa4566 I just saw a clip of this on another video , where's it from ?
Also the name of a British doom band. Could never pronounce it. Lol.
Good to see you shilling the server now as it needs it
This is why I am an Libertarian, focus on real problems in real life, leave my hobbies (that doesn't hurt anyone) alone.
The folly of libertarians and other "leave my hobby alone" types is thinking their hobbies don't cause harm.
@@wakkaseta8351 Please define what the term "cause harm" mean?
If causing harm means getting aroused over fictional characters then I don't think you really know what REAL Harm is.
@@TBoneTony
Alright, since you'll just respond to whatever I say with some inane "not all" or "You're just fear mongering" statement, let's just go for a real world example: The rase-traitor weaboos, since they've been having a resurgence in visibility and insufferable bravado as of late.
Lazy societal parasites who care more about defending their [de]-generate hobby than they do about defending their actual rights, the backwards oriental values they've been importing and slowly normalizing into culture since at least the 80s have been priming society for marxist subversion. Just take one look at their filth and you'll see deviancy, anti-Christian "kill God" rhetoric, corporatist shilling, the demonization of masculinity in favor of effeminate pretty boys, and asian collectivism, among other things.
Now, how are the leftists subverting western culture again? Giving deviants more and more privliges while normalising their behaviors, promoting atheism and anti-theism, reshaping society under corporate structures, turning men into weak soy-boys, and good old collectivism, particularly of the Winnie the Pooh flavor.
I don't know about you, but importing backwards values that are incompatible with western society and help advance the agenda of those who would destroy it, knowingly or not, sounds like it would cause quite a lot of harm.
@@wakkaseta8351define harm.
@@MikeHunt-zy3cn I see your reading comprehension seems to be lacking, considering my comment answering that question is right above yours.
A very intelligent man once said "If you have a problem with everyone, then the common denominator in all of your problems is you."
Community is the solution for those who can not fend for themselves. Genuine community is built of strong capable individuals, not people looking for handouts.
All I can think of is the 'concentric circles' of a man suggested by C S Lewis where he suggests that if you push negative feelings towards those who you personally know while pushing positive feelings outwards, you can make a person feel like they are a good person over deeds and feelings that are largely imaginary. It's a really interesting argument that I think a lot about in the current climate.
Dev, can you put a list of books you were reading?
Community is such a blanket statement I can place anything in front of it and it's a community. LGBTQ community, brown community, sonic furry coomer community, community community, community word's lost all meaning.
Can you do a video on how diversity pushes relate back to Tokenism?
Great video. Actually thought about the concept of "community" a few years ago because I was starting to hear that word getting flung around way too often in places where I felt it just made no sense whatsoever to the point of annoyance.
Republics are based on appeals to community.
Republics are based.
The difference is that their communities actually exist and aren't nebulous overgeneralizations based on skin deep classifications. "Right" communities are actual groups of people with common ideals and goals, often connected by many things: geography, race, and the aforementioned goals and ideals. They're a community that has more or less one voice, spoken in unison together, willingly by each person within. They care about the community they willingly created themselves.
The "lefts" community is all encompassing and bloated. They misuse the term and act like superficial similarities mean the same thing as deep personal connections and homogeny like you'd get with a "right" community. In this way they're actually incredibly racist, sexist, ect. That's actually why some of the most racist people out there are not republicans who'd definitely allow someone who is a lot like them even though they have a different race in their community, because the other connections are more important than that. Rather the most racist people are usually democrats, who look at a community top down and see only the color of their skin.
The concept of community is wild in gaming right now. People's idea of community also just usually means they want to police others in some way. In recent years I've noticed that people generally put more effort into Discord nonsense, message board nonsense, political grandstanding, moderating channels, promotion and policing each other far more than the actual game they are playing. Ironically the expectation in games now is also to do everything the same way as pros/streamers and any diviation or experimentation means you misunderstand the game. The idea of experimentation or figuring things out yourself is an alien concept. Don't play until after reading an entire wiki about it.
Wow classic was like this to an extreme. Everyone knew how to do everything as efficiently as possible but very few understood the mechanics of what they were doing. Part of what made that game and so many others so great was learning mechanics and encounters with your friends.
Bedrock or Java?
Java
Only somewhat related, but the other day the Mayo Clinic had a "public forum" about you-know-what vaccines on UA-cam, and comments were turned off. I've said it before and I'll say it again, lack of irony is the source of all modern problems.
I'd disagree in saying broader communities don't exist, in that there are clearly communities where there are shared interests and most anyone in that given community can bump into anyone else in it and act like acquaintances at the very least from the very start. They're shallow, not a lot of depth to them, but they exist as a community and the depth is sub-communities within the broader community, which gets progressively closer to individuals, such as friends you identify on an individual basis.
To this end, there is a gay community of sorts, since there's at least two thing all gay people have in common: they're men, and they're attracted to men. If you don't fall under those two categories, then you can't be gay by definition. There's some overlap with other groups, such as bisexual people also like men, or many women also are attracted to men, buuuut this is an even more shallow community to the point where it doesn't much matter. At least if you get a bunch of gay people together, they have some basic fundamentals they can talk about that they'll largely agree upon. This is the foundation for a community, not just living near each other. You can have more in common with, and more to talk about, in this scenario than you may have to share with your physical neighbours, where you may have little to nothing in common at all.
There is, however, no such thing as the "trans community" by this same reasoning - there's no common ground at all, really, because it's such a large umbrella term at this point. Sexuality isn't connected to it at all, so no trans person can have any idea of what any other trans person's attracted to without some form of communication first. There is no overlap with gender, or even if there's a belief of there being more than two genders, as there's very clearly a sharp divide among trans people on that topic. There's no guarantee of collectivism or individualism, or of problems encountered, or much of anything. With many now stating they're trans but who don't suffer from gender dysphoria, which is kiiiind of the definition of being trans medically, there's not even the most basic common ground at all to work from. As such, there is truly no trans community, not even a shallow one. There are sub-communities, but not overarching one to work with.
The point is here, that yes, there are broader communities which may be fairly shallow in terms of similarities among their members, but those similarities do provide a basic starting point for relationships to form. Just living in close physical proximity to someone means absolutely nothing in and of itself in a city, but it can in a rural community where your neighbour may be the only thing between life and death for you, but the thing is, in that rural community there's going to be a lot of similarities and shared experiences, while in a city there's not a whole lot of overlap between people living in a large apartment building. The "community" of neighbours in rural areas isn't that they're neighbours, but that they're under very similar living conditions, that the closest store is an hour long drive away so you may literally need to ask to borrow a cup of sugar if you run out mid-recipe, so you form bonds that way.
This also means that you do get some very broad things like the "furry community" as such, or "gamers" and stuff like that. It's a shallow community at the top level still, but it is a community that has at least some shared values and opinions, things that they like, common ground to base further development of the relationship with others within such upon.
I just disagree that a shallow community is not a community. It's still a valid starting point to build upon, even if there's not a whole lot to it. You just have to have something to work with for commonality. It just doesn't get you far in and of itself is all, you have to build those relationships further from that starting point. If all you ever have is broad, vague concepts that never run any deeper on any individual basis, if you never progress past simply being part of the same group, then yeah, it's not much of a community, but this is the shallow depth I'd mentioned prior which is coming into play.
It may not relate entirely, but the misunderstood phrase "blood is thicker than water" came to mind several times. For anyone who isn't aware, it originally meant the opposite of how it's commonly used. Most of the time, it's taken to mean your family is closer than your friends or strangers, but initially, the full phrase was "the blood of the covenant is thicker than the water of the womb". This means the relationships and obligations you willingly opt into and build for yourself, founded on a shared set of values or interests, are stronger than the relationships you are placed into by happenstance at birth.
I have no community; just hobby enjoyers. ;)
Look up the 1981 made for TV movie 'The Wave' to know how 'for the sake of the community' can go horribly wrong.
"The community is great! Long live the community! Just let me consult my hat and sacred discs on what the community wants! Oh, you want to speak? Why would you oppose the community so selfishly?"
They can’t have friends because friends disagree and with disagreement comes wrong think and then they cancel their “friends”
I like Haidt
Excellent, one of your best video essays and I can totally relate
I like community that value personal freedom. Basically leave me alone, and of you can't do that then one of us need to not breathe anymore.
Dev, so glad you are trying to be more frequent with your vids! Really enjoy your content and it is always a pleasant surprise when you upload.
THE COMMUNITY WOULD LIKE TO APPEAL TO YOU ASKING YOU TO MAKE BETTER VIDEOS
no you're not real
@@ShortFatOtaku I exist only in your worst nightmares.
Man I fucking love this channel, genuinely good takes and new critiques
as a centrist I disavow your pandering centrism
Man, that thumbnail tweet, how pitiful. Tragic, that someone could be in such a broken life situation to even ask that question.
I think this is so hilariously detached from what the left actually thinks
this tbh
Translation: "OMG this is 100% accurate, but as I am a subversive and know my rhetoric is intended to make poor people suffer I will lie."
Their beliefs spread beyond what their own eyes see. The world is infinitely complex, and they see it in black & white.
long winded Devian way of saying "Arch is right! you should gatekeep!"
I know the heatmap study you're referring to. It is not necessarily saying that left wingers care more about community than family. The most it shows is a mindset difference. The leftist thinks "Oh, I'll put more points into broader circles because they INCLUDE the family circle so I can care about everything all at once." whereas the right winger seems to assume more mutual exclusivity. I'm not sure about the other studies but I'd imagine it's similar.
I love my family, and have a really good relationship with my sister. I refuse to buy into any ideology that argues that the ties that bind don't matter.
Excellent video, as usual. Keep up the good work :)
Thank you very much!
@@ShortFatOtaku No prob, I think I’ll be on this channel for along time
Those statistics you showed hint at the root of the difference. Think of the deep level, why would egos (remember Ego feels, Reason justifies it) choose to place their social centers on one end in immediate relationships and on the other on humanity or even inanimate entities? I think it's because one end, generally speaking, is comfortable with exposing themselves to the scrutiny of close, *sentient* individuals and the other feels the need to isolate themselves from people who can peer inside them as only a face to face, close relationship can do. One can be in a "relationship" with humanity and feel safe that humanity will not take a good look at them.
The collectivist urge is one of dissolving oneself in an idea, the ego that fears exposure hides among the many, like a fish inside a fish bank. It's an issue of self esteem, if one has low self esteem 1) one can hide it by becoming part of a larger mass and 2) one can artificially inflating it by adopting a Big Ideology as substitute for genuine self esteem.
The analysis, I think, should be moved deeper than Collectivism vs. Individualism, to the undercurrents bellow.
For example that cartoon you showed about preferring shallow relationships, the goal there. I infer, is to avoid judgement. If you get too close to people they can judge your character, I think it likely that a person doing that has a judgemental ego which doesn't like to be judged because the ego always wants to feel good about itself and being judgemental is generally viewed as being a negative trait. So the ego will create an environment were it can thrive, where it can both isolate itself from push back against its negative traits while feeling safe to exercise those traits against others. Thus the hypocrisy you may be so familiar with.
"Does anyone love their family? because ermm... No one i talk to does lol. Also we're all wildly communist and extremely perverted."
I love my family. I don't have to like them to care about them. I know they care about me. Blood means something, and to see these people disregard and discredit its value sickens me.
One side of my family is big and loving, regularly hosting family events and holidays. The other side is small, riddled with divorce, and all the children are basically estranged. Which side is happier? Which side do I enjoy spending time with more? Can you also guess which side is more traditional/conservative? (Genuinely curious btw)
I think everyone’s family is like this to an extent. Mine doesn’t have many gatherings, they are few and far between because everyone works but we keep in touch and visit often. The other side is my da’s, where I lost an uncle because that granddad bullied his own son into it. As for which is happier, I think we can all guess