Jupiter low tuning for the tone, S.C. low tuning also sounds pretty good. Tha Dynasonic was my least favourite sounding but I like it for the hassle free snare wires. Soooo, all three?
I still don’t know how to change the door handles on my Toyota Tacoma, but congrats David, I watched your video. UA-cam suggestions for the win...again...
@@patrickstaak501 It also has a really thick shell compared to most metal drums. I've experimented with hoops on mine and it retains that same character regardless of what hoops are on it. It rings a bit more and sounds more open with triple flanged hoops but it retains that fat -somewhere between brass and wood- pop regardless of hoops. Its tone is unique to the drum in my experience.... and most of that is down the shell.
Tama just makes the best hardware, so naturally their ability to make metal snares is second to none. I got the hand hammered vintage snare and its so fuking sweet
Darn right! I'd put my 1979 Rogers X-P8 USA maple kit up against just about anything made today. BTW, I own two of the snares in the vid, Heh heh heh.......Have to find one of those Pearl's next time I allow myself a present!!
All three sounded cool in their own way. Liked the rogers best as it sounded really good in all tunings as you said, and just so well balanced. The Tama felt very snappy and had a bit more modern sound to it. The Pearl had some crazy low end and felt way to boomy tuned down. But if you wanted a fat snare tuned high the pearl is a real winner!
I would choose the"Snare if Mysterious Providence." As Stewart Copeland would quote about his diecast battered, Pearl Jupiter. Yes, all Police recordings featured one snare drum; a Pearl Jupiter with a diecast batter side rim and a triple flange snare side rim. Hence the configuration of the signature Tama.
I think the main difference is the die cast hoop. If you swap out the batter hoop on that Tama I don’t think the sound would differ much from the other two.
Yeah I tend to dislike the die cast hoops on all Tama snares cause they sound so choked. It’s like there’s a high and low pass on the drum that’s not letting it breathe
Well I liked the Rogers the best out of those three, but I love my Ludwig Black Beauty even more. Thanks for putting in the effort to make the video, I know that takes a lot of time!
S.C. signature is a BEAST. Sounded excellent in all tunings. 2nd is Pearl Jupiter, which the S.C. signature is based on, weirdly enough. Just have a clean record worthy sound.
Love the video for me the Rogers, I have a Slingerland sound king and I think it’s brilliant, if you have not already tried one, this would be a great choice
Can I add that I really love the way your room came out so far? It’s so organized and neat. Hell, it even looks bigger (but that might be the lens you’re using.) keep up the awesome content! (PS. I see you doing your thang on other channels and I dig that too haha. Keep the collars coming as well!)
That's very groovy playing, Dave! High tuning - ++++++++ for both Rogers and Tama. Medium tuning - Rogers didn't sound so good, Tama sounded godly to me. Low tuning - Rogers sounded excellent and explosive, while Tama had some weird overtones, so +1 for Rogers. Pearl Jupiter, on the other hand, sounded very strange in all three examples.
Not just because I've owned a Dynasonic (6.5x14) for about 45 years but I feel it is really hard to beat for precise articulation to good solid back beat.
Great video. I prefer the SC145 at the high and mid tuning. I couldn’t pick between the Tama and Roger’s at the low tuning. I was surprised I actually didn’t like the Pearl as I thought I preferred a dryer sound.
My first kit was Slingerland Weather King. Then an early 70's Roger's kit. Then I had a late 70's big R kit. After that came a few cheaper kits, and a really great set of Peavey RBS 1's. I would trade my house for the first three! What a dumb ass I was in my younger years!!
They all sounded great David.I don't use a metal snare anymore but when I did I used a pearl brass 6_1/2x14 free floater.should of never got rid of that one. My favorite here is the Rogers tunned hi.Beautiful sound.Thanks for the video.!!!
Watched this video and suddenly ran over to my closet dusted off an old ten lug pearl jupiter(Gladstone throw off) and found a magnet after some looking and lo and behold I got one of those. And yes it is LOUD at any tuning. Totally forgot about that drum until five minutes ago.
The Jupiter and the Tama are basically the same minus the die cast hoop on top. Copeland had Tama model his snare after the Pearl model which he had used for years.
Liked them all. I have the Tama and it's literally ear piercing. It cuts through. I feel like I have to be more precise when playing it because it's less forgiving, not much decay. I feel ghost notes are harder because it's so sensitive.
Little late but 200th ain't bad. Ever since I finally got a Black Beauty I can't see going back to wood for a main snare (I need like 12 snares, though). Brass really is just amazing sounding for everything! I would love to see how a ridiculously large brass snare (16x10 maybe?) would sound. Keep being awesome, David!
Ah, the irony with the Stewart Copeland Tama Signature Snare, as his #1 that was used on all of the Police records and helped give him his unique sound is actually a...Pearl. A mid 70s model. Heavily gated.
Why do so many people post this comment? First, we know this info already... but that's not the issue. The issue is that when it comes up, it's always worded in a patronizing tone, with a dash of pomposity & grandiosity mixed in... as if the person is educating all of us ignorant serfs and peasants. You're not, dude. ...and even if you were, I don't understand why so many drummers think this is such a rare piece of knowledge that every time they mention it, they act as if they've discovered the holy grail.
Timbales1979 you honestly think everyone knows? You come across as sounding all “high and mighty” with that comment. Maybe want to bring it down a notch.
Die Hard Rogers player but this particular grouping I noticed a high end ring just after the attack. The jupiter I also have in 6.5 ". Overall I like the Tama S.C, solid performer cross the board.
That Tama sounded good with all three tunings. Next, the Rogers had a nice low tuning. Finally, that Pearl sounded like garbage all around. Thanks for playing.
Ah... I love reading comments surrounding the great snare debate... a whole lot of chest pumped opinion over an extremely finite amount of audio data (for reference.. the pulse/ring of a snare hit lasts about 1/2 of a second). A snare is either wood (short attack with punchy, low mids & reduced ring) or metal (sharper attack with increased upper harmonic resonance & sustain) . The difference from one "gourmet" snare drum to another can be completely skewed (or corrected) by choice of heads and tuning. I can tell the snare purists are already fuming... but I haven't even mentioned the effects of microphone selection, placement, processing and reproduction signal path. Just saying... #trustyourearsnotthepricetag
That's a great observation, and comment. I've had some cool snares over the years. The 2 I miss the most are the early 80s ludwig coliseum solid not slotted shell. And the 1964 rogers powertone steel shell. Both screaming good drums. For this video I'd go with the tama.
chest pumped opinion? not sure there was much of that. Just a lot of friendly opinions about the question asked - which of these nine sounds do you like? Glad you took it as an opportunity for a little lecture about how we are all sheep and only real heads like you know the deal, though. Trust my ears - super useful takeaway, thanks!
Dyna-Sonic... I have an original COB 6 1/2 x 14 and a reissue wood WMP also 6 1/2.... great snares. Nice job on the compare... you could really hear a difference.
Funny how the Rogers Dynasonic drops in tuning while you are playing. I got this same thing happening on my vintage Pearl 14x8 brass. Especially on low tunings...
Rogers DynaSonic, Pearl Jupiter, Tama S.C. Signature....in that order. Funny enough, Copeland used a COB Pearl snare, not the Jupiter, the snare just below it, for many of the Police albums.
Loved the Rogers .. I have a 60's COB which is incredible. On the high tuning, the Tama had a bit of an off ring to it and the Pearl was good but a little flatter in energy than the Rogers. On the medium tuning the Tama and Pearl didn't sound very good from a ring perspective. On low tuning the Rogers was still a bit punchier but the Tama and Pearl got closer. The Pearl on low had a lovely decay. If I had to pick one .. it would be the Rogers.
I have the Tama. Almost went for the Jupiter and put a die cast hoop to do the Copeland thing but thought it would be easier to just get the Tama. Thanks for doing this demo.
Howard Evans Hey a while back a got the Pearl and I think the technical term for it is it’s the model B4514-what you’re talking about. It has the Gladstone and the hole placement identical to Stewart’s.
I have a 6.5 by 14 rogers dynasonic.have had it for years.still my favorite snare i own.it will take your head off when tuned high and playing rim shots.and very sensitive played at low volumes.
I need to talk to you I've got an old not so old Ludwig drum set I've barely ever played it and the only thing wrong with it is the symbols they are the ones that came with the kit and they have taken a pretty serious beating and I figured you could turn it into a brand new kit and use it
The tama is easily the best. The Rogers has a nice warm series of overtones while the pearl sounds cold and closed off, with more confused overtones. I'm surprised people like this sound
Wow. Can't believe you picked the Rogers! It doesn't sound that great in the video to me. Maybe I missed something. That S.C. is so evenly balanced in tone.
Which would you play?
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Tama SC sig .. really stands out to me .. makes the others sound bad
I’d choose the Tama. The high tuning especially was my cup of tea.
Jupiter low tuning for the tone, S.C. low tuning also sounds pretty good. Tha Dynasonic was my least favourite sounding but I like it for the hassle free snare wires. Soooo, all three?
Pearl Medium Tuning sounds much better for me.
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The Tama sounded the best all around, to my ears. The tama tuned high is probably my favourite sound of the group.
The tama sounded that way because of the die cast hoop. Difference in sound between triple flange and die cast is HUGE.
I liked it the best as well. But my Dad's set that I have been playing for years is a Tama so maybe I am biased. 😆
@@patrickstaak501 It also has a really thick shell compared to most metal drums. I've experimented with hoops on mine and it retains that same character regardless of what hoops are on it. It rings a bit more and sounds more open with triple flanged hoops but it retains that fat -somewhere between brass and wood- pop regardless of hoops.
Its tone is unique to the drum in my experience.... and most of that is down the shell.
Tama just makes the best hardware, so naturally their ability to make metal snares is second to none. I got the hand hammered vintage snare and its so fuking sweet
Too dry/dull sounding for me.
I know the video is about the snare drums, but i just want to highlight how good the bassdrum sounds
Wow that Rogers was pretty much built for anything wasn't it?
its super versatile!
Rogers is so underrated and I'm not just talking about the snare here I'm talking about their complete line of drums...
Darn right! I'd put my 1979 Rogers X-P8 USA maple kit up against just about anything made today. BTW, I own two of the snares in the vid, Heh heh heh.......Have to find one of those Pearl's next time I allow myself a present!!
I am a Rogers Super fan! I have about 12 Rogers kits
All three sounded cool in their own way. Liked the rogers best as it sounded really good in all tunings as you said, and just so well balanced. The Tama felt very snappy and had a bit more modern sound to it. The Pearl had some crazy low end and felt way to boomy tuned down. But if you wanted a fat snare tuned high the pearl is a real winner!
Rogers all the way!
LORD that Pearl sounds good.
I would choose the"Snare if Mysterious Providence."
As Stewart Copeland would quote about his diecast battered, Pearl Jupiter.
Yes, all Police recordings featured one snare drum; a Pearl Jupiter with a diecast batter side rim and a triple flange snare side rim.
Hence the configuration of the signature Tama.
Wow that's interesting! I know on the Sounds Like A Drum channel they done some comparisons with die cast and triple flanged which got me interested.
Problem is that his (Copeland) Pearl snare drum was not technically a "Jupiter". Was a Deluxe Custom. A.K.A "Gladstone" (Jupiter's sibling).
Yeah...
We know.
Thanks.
Copeland used a Custom model snare. Not a Jupiter. It's the one with a Gladstone strainer, not the Jupiter's parallel action strainer
Thought he also played a Tama Kingbeat
that rogers dynasonic sounds badass!!
The Rogers is amazing in High & Low Tuning
Tama SC Medium Tuning (The rogers is pretty close)
Agreed
Forget the snares... that kick sounds great man!!
Bro! Idk what you changed, but this mix sounds GREAT!! Your others didn’t sound bad at all, but this is....better!
I felt the same. I think it's because he usually records in a more open part of the room.
Thank you for presentation
Rogers is Best from my Point of View
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Thanks for doing this brother. That Rogers has some serious thud!
Love that Pearl...just has a bonk that the other 2 are missing
I think the main difference is the die cast hoop. If you swap out the batter hoop on that Tama I don’t think the sound would differ much from the other two.
Yeah I tend to dislike the die cast hoops on all Tama snares cause they sound so choked. It’s like there’s a high and low pass on the drum that’s not letting it breathe
would probably (and hopefully) sound almost identical to the Pearl since it's based on it lol
I’m late to this but I have a pearl Jupiter with a Tama die cast hoop, it sounds almost identical
The Tama is like .3mm thicker so it projects a little more
Love em all, they all sound great, I'd rather go with the Rogers or Pearl because they have those cool snare mechanisms :))
Well I liked the Rogers the best out of those three, but I love my Ludwig Black Beauty even more. Thanks for putting in the effort to make the video, I know that takes a lot of time!
The tama sounded better than I thought it would. However, that Big-R dynasonic was the best. Thanks for the review.
Agree. Much better than the others, to my ears.
I thought the Rodgers sounds best in all 3 tuning levels.
Totally agree
As he dropped the tuning the Rogers really shined.
You were correct!
dynosonic with the bridge is one of my go toos i love it
S.C. signature is a BEAST. Sounded excellent in all tunings. 2nd is Pearl Jupiter, which the S.C. signature is based on, weirdly enough. Just have a clean record worthy sound.
Didn't stew use a Gladstone? Idk how nitpicky that is but idk if he used the Jupiter
The sound of Tama's SC Signature are super sexy for me, especially in high tuning... DAMN!
Thanks for the throwback David!! I sold my Rogers in the 80's. I have the Tama now? They are both good drums, but I do prefer the Rogers..
I would use the Rodgers Dynasonic
Love the video for me the Rogers, I have a Slingerland sound king and I think it’s brilliant, if you have not already tried one, this would be a great choice
I have a Dnyasonic and love it, but all these snares are incredible! I'd happily play either
That Rogers Dynasonic is smooth. Doesn’t pinch down on the resonance like the other two. Great snares across the board.
High: Rogers
Medium: Pearl
Low: Tama
I have about 30 prized snare drums and one of my favourites is my 60s COB Dynnasonic, because it sounds amazing in any setting
Can I add that I really love the way your room came out so far? It’s so organized and neat. Hell, it even looks bigger (but that might be the lens you’re using.) keep up the awesome content! (PS. I see you doing your thang on other channels and I dig that too haha. Keep the collars coming as well!)
This is exactly what I decided to look into 2 days ago! Thanks man! 👍🏽👍🏽
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The funny thing is Stewart Copeland’s snare was apparently a Pearl Jupiter with a die cast batter hoop and a Gladstone throw off.
I personally like the Pearl. I'm a fan of the more dry sound
AmazingCheetos me too! Dry, clean and tight
The Pearl sounds a lot thicker and dry. I liked it best as well. Tama coming in 2nd.
I like the dry sound of the Pearl too!
That Pearl is shockingly good. Blows the other out of the water.
My favorite sound was the dynasonic high tuning. But my overall favorite snare was the Tama because I liked the sound in all tunings.
That pearl is sweeeet. I am buying one tomorrow for $75
That's very groovy playing, Dave!
High tuning - ++++++++ for both Rogers and Tama.
Medium tuning - Rogers didn't sound so good, Tama sounded godly to me.
Low tuning - Rogers sounded excellent and explosive, while Tama had some weird overtones, so +1 for Rogers.
Pearl Jupiter, on the other hand, sounded very strange in all three examples.
I like them all but I am a COB freak!! My bestest is Rogers Powertone believe it or not! Great video!!
Not just because I've owned a Dynasonic (6.5x14) for about 45 years but I feel it is really hard to beat for precise articulation to good solid back beat.
Gretsch COBs are definitely up to these, but on high tuning.
Rogers is my pick of these three.
Pearl overall but all 3 sounded very good.
Great video. I prefer the SC145 at the high and mid tuning. I couldn’t pick between the Tama and Roger’s at the low tuning. I was surprised I actually didn’t like the Pearl as I thought I preferred a dryer sound.
Rogers & Tama sound great. Pearl is not even in the same class. Great video!
I like the Tama and that is the one if I had to play one forever . Great video
My first kit was Slingerland Weather King. Then an early 70's Roger's kit. Then I had a late 70's big R kit. After that came a few cheaper kits, and a really great set of Peavey RBS 1's. I would trade my house for the first three! What a dumb ass I was in my younger years!!
This just gave me the great idea for an indestructible snare drum
They all sounded great David.I don't use a metal snare anymore but when I did I used a pearl brass 6_1/2x14 free floater.should of never got rid of that one. My favorite here is the Rogers tunned hi.Beautiful sound.Thanks for the video.!!!
yes, finally new video,
I love all your videos, and I like all of your project!!
keep going man...😉
I love my Slinglerland chrome over brass Buddy Rich model😏
I have a gene krupa slingerland soundking swapped strainer to a trick and it sounds immense with Tama diecasts on
The Pearl Jupiter and the Rogers sounded similar, but that Rogers sings
Watched this video and suddenly ran over to my closet dusted off an old ten lug pearl jupiter(Gladstone throw off) and found a magnet after some looking and lo and behold I got one of those. And yes it is LOUD at any tuning. Totally forgot about that drum until five minutes ago.
Digging that Chrome Fibes kit in the background!
you will see more of it soon!
The Jupiter and the Tama are basically the same minus the die cast hoop on top. Copeland had Tama model his snare after the Pearl model which he had used for years.
Liked them all. I have the Tama and it's literally ear piercing. It cuts through. I feel like I have to be more precise when playing it because it's less forgiving, not much decay. I feel ghost notes are harder because it's so sensitive.
I love the snappiness of the Tama, especially on the high tuning. I think I would reach for a Jupiter, though.
The funny thing is that the Tama Stewart Copeland is based on a Pearl snaredrum! The one Copeland used for a long time! 😁
Love that kick drum tone too, nice and punchy but with some nice boom.
Little late but 200th ain't bad.
Ever since I finally got a Black Beauty I can't see going back to wood for a main snare (I need like 12 snares, though). Brass really is just amazing sounding for everything! I would love to see how a ridiculously large brass snare (16x10 maybe?) would sound. Keep being awesome, David!
Ah, the irony with the Stewart Copeland Tama Signature Snare, as his #1 that was used on all of the Police records and helped give him his unique sound is actually a...Pearl. A mid 70s model. Heavily gated.
Yes I know. I began using Tama because of Copeland who was and still is one of my favorite players and all this time he was playing a pearl.
Why do so many people post this comment?
First, we know this info already... but that's not the issue.
The issue is that when it comes up, it's always worded in a patronizing tone, with a dash of pomposity & grandiosity mixed in... as if the person is educating all of us ignorant serfs and peasants.
You're not, dude.
...and even if you were, I don't understand why so many drummers think this is such a rare piece of knowledge that every time they mention it, they act as if they've discovered the holy grail.
Timbales1979 you honestly think everyone knows? You come across as sounding all “high and mighty” with that comment. Maybe want to bring it down a notch.
Die Hard Rogers player but this particular grouping I noticed a high end ring just after the attack. The jupiter I also have in 6.5 ". Overall I like the Tama S.C, solid performer cross the board.
That Tama sounded good with all three tunings. Next, the Rogers had a nice low tuning. Finally, that Pearl sounded like garbage all around. Thanks for playing.
this
that stage amp behind you .. same exact one I've had in my house since I was a baby lol
I found it at goodwill for like $20. I wasnt going to get it until I saw it had a giant orange paiste 2002 sticker on it lol.
Ah... I love reading comments surrounding the great snare debate... a whole lot of chest pumped opinion over an extremely finite amount of audio data (for reference.. the pulse/ring of a snare hit lasts about 1/2 of a second). A snare is either wood (short attack with punchy, low mids & reduced ring) or metal (sharper attack with increased upper harmonic resonance & sustain) . The difference from one "gourmet" snare drum to another can be completely skewed (or corrected) by choice of heads and tuning. I can tell the snare purists are already fuming... but I haven't even mentioned the effects of microphone selection, placement, processing and reproduction signal path. Just saying... #trustyourearsnotthepricetag
That's a great observation, and comment. I've had some cool snares over the years. The 2 I miss the most are the early 80s ludwig coliseum solid not slotted shell. And the 1964 rogers powertone steel shell. Both screaming good drums. For this video I'd go with the tama.
chest pumped opinion? not sure there was much of that. Just a lot of friendly opinions about the question asked - which of these nine sounds do you like? Glad you took it as an opportunity for a little lecture about how we are all sheep and only real heads like you know the deal, though. Trust my ears - super useful takeaway, thanks!
2 weeks and this is what we get? Dammit David I demand more content
I have an old 6.5x14 80's Pearl Export Chrome snare drum and its sound fairly similar to the Jupiter. But it lack features that the Jupiter had.
Great video, great snares! Loving my vintage Gretsch Chrome over brass. Tuned high is an absolute delight.
I've got a Big R Dynosonic so Im biased, as the tuning got lower I thought it came into it's own. Rogers was ahead of their time.
Dyna-Sonic... I have an original COB 6 1/2 x 14 and a reissue wood WMP also 6 1/2.... great snares. Nice job on the compare... you could really hear a difference.
Where you at David? Starting to miss your videos!
Stuart Copeland used the pearl one (with a diecast hoop on top) on all the police records
The Rogers is my pick, I love mine
Rogers, Slingerland, Ludwig. Early 60's heyday for brass. That's why they are climbing in value.
I think the Tama sounded the cleanest . I favor that in this comparison
They all sound good. Kick sounds good as well. So does your playing. Nice.
I have a really nice rogers dynasonic snare . I guess I am lucky to own one.
that stewart copeland snare sounds 🔥 and so does that jupiter
Funny how the Rogers Dynasonic drops in tuning while you are playing. I got this same thing happening on my vintage Pearl 14x8 brass. Especially on low tunings...
14x8 brass Pearl? If its giving you that much trouble ill gladly take it off your hands. Is it a free floater?
Man that Jupiter really sings!!
They all sound great! What are the drum dial settings for the tuning ranges?
I'd like to know as well.
Curious minds want to know...
I own three Tama snares. They are very nice, but I would go with the Rogers because it has a slower decay and sounds great.
I like the Slingerland Gene Krupa No. 130.
Rogers was my favourite, Pearl second and Tama last, which was surprising!
Rogers DynaSonic, Pearl Jupiter, Tama S.C. Signature....in that order. Funny enough, Copeland used a COB Pearl snare, not the Jupiter, the snare just below it, for many of the Police albums.
That Dyna is fucking awesome!
Loved the Rogers .. I have a 60's COB which is incredible. On the high tuning, the Tama had a bit of an off ring to it and the Pearl was good but a little flatter in energy than the Rogers. On the medium tuning the Tama and Pearl didn't sound very good from a ring perspective. On low tuning the Rogers was still a bit punchier but the Tama and Pearl got closer. The Pearl on low had a lovely decay. If I had to pick one .. it would be the Rogers.
I have the Tama. Almost went for the Jupiter and put a die cast hoop to do the Copeland thing but thought it would be easier to just get the Tama. Thanks for doing this demo.
Copeland never used the Jupiter, he used a Custom, with the Gladstone strainer - not a parallel strainer as the Jupiter has
Howard Evans Hey a while back a got the Pearl and I think the technical term for it is it’s the model B4514-what you’re talking about. It has the Gladstone and the hole placement identical to Stewart’s.
I have a 6.5 by 14 rogers dynasonic.have had it for years.still my favorite snare i own.it will take your head off when tuned high and playing rim shots.and very sensitive played at low volumes.
I liked the Dynasonic at low tuning
I own the jupiter and lovin’it🥁🥁🥁🇨🇦🇨🇦
I’m a huge pearl fan but I like the Tama
Rogers high and low tunings win for me. Tama SC Sig. wins medium tuning. Thanks for doing this brother
Next video idea: make octobans out of pringle cans
I need to talk to you I've got an old not so old Ludwig drum set I've barely ever played it and the only thing wrong with it is the symbols they are the ones that came with the kit and they have taken a pretty serious beating and I figured you could turn it into a brand new kit and use it
The tama is easily the best. The Rogers has a nice warm series of overtones while the pearl sounds cold and closed off, with more confused overtones. I'm surprised people like this sound
Wow. Can't believe you picked the Rogers! It doesn't sound that great in the video to me. Maybe I missed something. That S.C. is so evenly balanced in tone.
You should get yourself Ludwig and slingerland COB snares too and do another video.
The Rogers for me.