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I often think about private Edwards in Camp Searchlight and how he's not sure if more radiation will turn him feral or what the effects will be. when we usually understand That they are immune to radiation So if thays the case,at what point is it too much. I always looked at it like the human mind can only endure so much and eventually breaks causing ¿feralness? Which would explain how some can withstand more stress and radiation than others. The tv show kind of sets it in stone that eventually theyll all become feral without their medicine but im not sure if i like it being spelled out like that. Sometimes less is more.
Or at least that's what those ghouls believe can or will happen. We have to remember that most characters are as limited in their understanding of the world as we are.
So long as there are first generation (prewar) ghouls who haven't turned feral there is no proof that they all will turn in time. The show strongly suggests that ghouls in the southwest seem to all turn feral eventually without some kind of drug but it also suggests some type of drug can turn people directly into ghouls. Possibly the same drug. I question why people keep looking for one set of rules for ghouls when we have numerous origin stories for different kinds of ghouls in different places and at different times. The obvious way to make sense of it all is to assume there are a variety of types of ghouls who share some attributes that everyone just lumps into one group because they look somewhat the same. Harold looks like a ghoul but we have it first hand he's an FEV mutant. We know FEV was spread but we have conflicting strains and dispersal methods. We have people before, during and after the war using large quantities of anti-radiation drugs that don't act anything like any drugs we know of in the real world. Even the different look of the ghouls in different regions and conflicting lore (sometimes they are said to smell like they are rotting but other sources note a lack of decomposition odor) lead towards the idea that ghouls aren't just one thing.
After watching this I ponder what if ghouls live longer because the radiation in their system is so charged that there is no metabolism going on externally so no oxidation So like maybe the cells last as long as they have a supply of rads but can still be worn down hence the flesh not growing back
I would recommend using the Independent Wiki as well. Though i would like to assume that over 131 years, due to living with essentially low levels of radiation, not as low as it is today but low by their standards, via vehicles and such later generations of humans gained a mutation that likely would explain why some humans became sentient ghouls. So realistically, the folks from our world back in the 50's might have been not far off on how radiation could actually work but we lack the evidence to really back the claim up. Since it would likely be a very controversial plan.
I can't imagine all ghouls, feral or not, have been in contact with FEV. The kid in a fridge had FVE tainted cereal prior to the bombs? Unlikely. Something I think is predominantly looked over in the game series is how comparatively intelligent non-feral ghouls would be to the average wastelander. Pre-war ghouls no doubt received a formal education of some sort. My only other note would be that ghouls overall look, think, and act better than I feel any of us will even 150 years from now. Some of them dudes in FO3 are kinda ripped.
People rarely talk about the drugs. We know radiation exposure prewar was pretty pervasive. We know that mysterious drugs were commonplace for treating and resisting exposure. We know of intentional and accidental ghoulifications where drugs as well as exposure were involved (Hancock, Eddie Winter, possibly Moira, etc.) so why is the idea that usage of Rad-x, Radaway and the like rarely thought about as a contributing factor? It all fits too well.
Or Mentats? We know they were used extensively, even kids in schools were given them. What about Psycho and Buffout? How widespread was their use? We know that environmental factors can turn Gene expression on and off, could these drugs have been one of those xfactors?
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I often think about private Edwards in Camp Searchlight and how he's not sure if more radiation will turn him feral or what the effects will be. when we usually understand That they are immune to radiation So if thays the case,at what point is it too much. I always looked at it like the human mind can only endure so much and eventually breaks causing ¿feralness? Which would explain how some can withstand more stress and radiation than others. The tv show kind of sets it in stone that eventually theyll all become feral without their medicine but im not sure if i like it being spelled out like that. Sometimes less is more.
Or at least that's what those ghouls believe can or will happen. We have to remember that most characters are as limited in their understanding of the world as we are.
Problem is that we have a non-feral glowing one.
So long as there are first generation (prewar) ghouls who haven't turned feral there is no proof that they all will turn in time. The show strongly suggests that ghouls in the southwest seem to all turn feral eventually without some kind of drug but it also suggests some type of drug can turn people directly into ghouls. Possibly the same drug. I question why people keep looking for one set of rules for ghouls when we have numerous origin stories for different kinds of ghouls in different places and at different times. The obvious way to make sense of it all is to assume there are a variety of types of ghouls who share some attributes that everyone just lumps into one group because they look somewhat the same. Harold looks like a ghoul but we have it first hand he's an FEV mutant. We know FEV was spread but we have conflicting strains and dispersal methods. We have people before, during and after the war using large quantities of anti-radiation drugs that don't act anything like any drugs we know of in the real world. Even the different look of the ghouls in different regions and conflicting lore (sometimes they are said to smell like they are rotting but other sources note a lack of decomposition odor) lead towards the idea that ghouls aren't just one thing.
After watching this I ponder what if ghouls live longer because the radiation in their system is so charged that there is no metabolism going on externally so no oxidation
So like maybe the cells last as long as they have a supply of rads but can still be worn down hence the flesh not growing back
Gob doesnt want to work there he's forced to by Moriarty
Imagine getting to hear 200 years worth of stories.
Ghouls have e-shoes
You become a ghoul if you're descended from the pre-humans I reckon. Radiation and immortality...
No cause u can still get irradiated in the wasteland most from prewar tho yes but characters like Hancock and others post
I would recommend using the Independent Wiki as well. Though i would like to assume that over 131 years, due to living with essentially low levels of radiation, not as low as it is today but low by their standards, via vehicles and such later generations of humans gained a mutation that likely would explain why some humans became sentient ghouls.
So realistically, the folks from our world back in the 50's might have been not far off on how radiation could actually work but we lack the evidence to really back the claim up. Since it would likely be a very controversial plan.
The independent one is less useful for lore because it also covers mods.
I can't imagine all ghouls, feral or not, have been in contact with FEV. The kid in a fridge had FVE tainted cereal prior to the bombs? Unlikely. Something I think is predominantly looked over in the game series is how comparatively intelligent non-feral ghouls would be to the average wastelander. Pre-war ghouls no doubt received a formal education of some sort. My only other note would be that ghouls overall look, think, and act better than I feel any of us will even 150 years from now. Some of them dudes in FO3 are kinda ripped.
People rarely talk about the drugs. We know radiation exposure prewar was pretty pervasive. We know that mysterious drugs were commonplace for treating and resisting exposure. We know of intentional and accidental ghoulifications where drugs as well as exposure were involved (Hancock, Eddie Winter, possibly Moira, etc.) so why is the idea that usage of Rad-x, Radaway and the like rarely thought about as a contributing factor? It all fits too well.
Or Mentats? We know they were used extensively, even kids in schools were given them. What about Psycho and Buffout? How widespread was their use? We know that environmental factors can turn Gene expression on and off, could these drugs have been one of those xfactors?
Tactics had the best discrimination.
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You know they've already datamined a bunch of the Fallout 76 ghoul perks, right? It's happening soon.
they aren't oppressed, I gave them their own settlement out in the glowing sea because I was tired of hearing marge simpson talk about settler stuff.