Rocker Box & Fluid Bed Sluice vs Fine Gold & Black Sand!
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Good video
Some good tips.
I see you did not do the clean up with the gold claw.
Could I suggest another test. Panning using the gold claw and a round pan, to see if gold is lost like it was with the crock.
Wayne Tolver-Banks I used the round pan because I like to mix it up for fun. In my last Prospecting video I do this test with the Gold Claws.
Wayne Tolver-Banks ua-cam.com/video/Pbn7e23L7T0/v-deo.html
The same issue happens for all pans. You can't put large black and small gold together and expect the gold to win. After all panning is about taking advantage of gold weight.
If its significantly out weighed it loses.
Chris, very well explained, and I can second the findings you show. I use my Rocker Box several days a week every week and the couple of times I cleaned out after running 3 large buckets (60 litres) I found gold in my Losses Pan placed at the bottom of the Rocker Box. I have it there to check for losses. But whenever I only run 1 large 20 litre bucket then clean out I don't get any gold in the losses pan 👍
That tells me I start losing Gold after 20 litres due to the mats filling up with heavies, just as you have shown. And that is why I now clean up every 20 litres.
I am out with the Rocker Box again tomorrow, and if I remember, I will video what I do and show the results 🙂
As promised, here's my Video showing how I use my Rocker Box with a pan at the bottom: ua-cam.com/video/xx1UfObuvNY/v-deo.html
It is good to have UA-camr's who know how to search for gold. Free learning.
Have the same problem with the coarse black and red sand myself in granite creek. Now use a battery and bilge pump to over pressure the crock tubes. Able to keep it laying fairly flat and fix the croc into a lightweight frame so never have to worry about re leveling. problem seems to have gone away. not much more to carry. Great stuff as always Chris.
Stephen Wright that's a pretty good solution
Mate you should be on tv doing Aussie prospecting you explain things so well and your videos are very well made not boring like most.
gold and offroad adventure gold and offroad adventure thanks man, I apprentice that.
I don't know if anyone from TV land would have this anxious bogan hillbilly
Hahaha your not Bogan mate trust me my videos are Bogan. I'm shore if swamp people get half a look in some one like you will just the way you present your videos is very good.
Enjoy your humor and happy go lucky attitude. Can't wait to get back to prospecting Colorado via Indiana. Boy White Steer.
Boy, it's hard to believe the gator lost that much. But that was some super chunky black. In the gold bearing areas where I am there are lots of garnets and black sands from granite making regular clean outs a must. Thanks for sharing your adventure.
Dirt:30 with George you have to remember that the gator has a tiny capture zone.
Its a hiking sluice box not a mining one, aimed at sampling, traveling, kids and working like a bucket at a time.
Pushing that much dirt through it was a very dumb idea lol
Agreed. I run a similar system to prospect and a large sluice for production working. But if you don't push it you don't know its limitations. Thanks again Chris.
I love the rocker box! Iv made one for myself . Iv got a video of it on my channel. The old timers worked hard , digging the pay out than rocking the box while feeding water with a ladel type tool. A far cry from our modern petrol engines
I have the bazooka sluice (same as croc) and the Angus MacKirk Recon... ABSOLUTELY wonderful systems, and easy clean outs. Love them.
Indicative and mitigating.. strooth .. thems big words pilgrim ...great vid ..😁
Way cool beans 🌭
Umm.....I hesitate to says this but......more regular cleanouts especially if you are just dumping into a bucket means you catch more black sand. Which means more Tin! And probably more gold because you won't be losing it. :)
Stuart Chignell all the tin man
Very educational. Thank you for sharing these techniques and the principles behind their usage. The 1850’s box was very interesting. I could imagine the old time prospectors using it. See you again real soon.
Jay Bales I get all nostalgic when I use it
Great video. You and some other UA-cam gold prospecting channels have motivated me to start my own UA-cam channel about gold here in beautiful Colorado. Again awesome video and find the yellow shinny stuff.
Chris Dahl good luck mate. Remember it doesn't happen over night, love the grind
Vo-Gus Prospecting Thank you. Most definitely. I will keep working hard at it. I have alot of good ideas and alot of my family members and friends have given me the support. Thank you as well for the support. Let me know what you think of my videos please if you want. I know my second video isn't the best and I will go back a redo it and make it better in the future. I'm making my next video today and should have it up to watch by Tomorrow. Also I love seeing your dog on your gold adventures. Thanks again.
I enjoy your vids... great stuff and a lot of fun... I am a beach miner in Oregon, USA. I don't get out as much as I would like but hey it's all in the fun.
I'd love to try that!
Great information for a guy from "GRANITE FALLS WA."
Thanks for your channel and the info you provide us all.
steve hines I bet this would be ideal for you lol
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Love watching your videos.
This is one of your best vids. Thanks heaps Chris (and Co.).
Jim Wood I feel as if I've got a few better ones but thank you 😊
Vo-Gus Prospecting no doubt you have done better ones Chtis. I pan in a high quartz area so it was a perfect topic for me. And one of your best...for me👍
I'm learning heaps from your videos, awesome job 👍
Glad to hear it mate
Awesome video and some great tips on how to deal with black sands.
What Joseph Koldziej said said : D Great video Chris I enjoyed it as usual. Thank you for sharing!
I haven't played in a creek for 30 years so of course I'm not an expert but with you trying different methods of fine gold capture I would think you should try a gold cube.
I've had the chance to use one before, I dont particularly like them. They are so slow and finiky on the creek.
Its purely a clean up machine and I feel even then unless your processing buckets and buckets of cons I'd rather pan.
Great vid and information. I got my first panning set recently and have been learning how to pan. Here we have flour gold on the beaches of Lake Superior. 7 flecks found so far. It is not easy!! Thanks for all the information!!
No matter how it comes, any gold is good gold
Awesome video. Watched it 3 times now. Cleanouts more often, definitely saves gold in the end game. Very informational. 😎
Glad you like it mate
Wow. This is one of many reasons why i love your channel. You demonstrate real solutions to real challenges in the field. Nice comparsion between the rocker and the croc. Btw... "lets get CROC'en" instead of crack'en😂😂
Joseph kolodziej oh man that's a good one! I just joined a Pun group and I feel as if I've let them down!
I feel many people look to their equipment as the issue when something doesn't work how they expect.
But the blame is often outside of our control. If you're using your gear correctly and have had previous good results it means another factor is affecting your results.
So factor in the new elements and a just accordingly.
Vo-Gus Prospecting precisely! That's why test panning is so crucial. It's not only showing you your speck count...but you need to note(as you so often have done) the type of soil conditions and adjust your approch accordingly😎 you are a wealth of knowledge. Thanks for sharing mate.
It's always nice to see Josh
What are the pros and cons of packing in a rocker box?
Are there alternatives for low water rocker boxes? That one looks heavy.
Do you save your black sands? I hear they are used in the production of iron. But also sometimes gold can be locked into it kinda like sulfides
I live in the state of Tennessee in the states. I have a bazooka gold trap, which is , just like the croc. We here also have fine gold. To combat the loss of fine gold , I have zip tied 1/16 inch hardware cloth to the grizzly bars. It does an amazing job of lifting the chunkier black sand up and over the front edge
, while allowing the gold to settle to the bottom of the fluid bed. You should try this, and give us your results , of said test.
Great video mate and nice looking gold
TAS D thanks bro
Great video and hope I can put your info into practice thanks cris
Is there any chance you can show make a video of all the gold you have? I don't know if you sell it as soon as you get it or if you hold onto it, but it would be cool to see what you have accumulated so far. Keep up the good work Chris. Cheers from Phoenix,Az
Blender 0118 I did a video a while ago showing my first ounce cleanup. I'll do another at the end of the year as I don't sell my gold.
Good morning, thank you for the tips on black sands, I ran my pay dirt twice going to run again, great show see you next video great adventure prospecting.
dad epic360 always a good idea.
Nice video, Chris. Love the bucket: "Australian Kalamata olives".
Haha, I get them from the dump
I also have one that i have found by the river. Painter's bucket.
Interesting Vid, thanks. Nice gold - great to see the different methods. x
Lyn Dixon - Australia all the methods
I have wondered how well that sluice works for fine gold. The proof is in the loss. I know you explained everything that could cause loss, but that is to much loss for my liking. Thanks for the proof of concept.
All the big rocks u pan before panning ur dirt u should throw back in those holes so if anyone is hiking or whatever they dont end up falling in the holes an cracks u have dug an break their leg or foot. Just a thought i really like ur videos an i subscribed
Leanna Shesler the law on this is pretty simple. Outside of a water way you must fill in your hole. So if I dug up in the bank I'd be required to back fill it for the reasons you stated.
In a creek however, you don't need to. Because normally when its running (not like in the drought we're currently in) no one walks there.
Just a bit of background for you.
Yella fella👍
perhaps setting the spreader bar from a toner cartridge just above the exit from a sluice/sluice section might lighten the black sand density ?
Did you just have the one size classifier?
If your gold was finer than the black sands in that instance would a two stage classifying have reduced losses?
I know some dredges have a course gold box with a fine gold box underneath it. Could a rocker box, or even a high banker, be set up in the same way?
I wonder if you classified the chunkier black sands out if that would help? Like with window screen sized classifier? I do for the flour gold.
Bing's Ballyhoo it would help. The gold and the black sand would then be of the same size and gold being twice as heavy would win the battle.
However, you would then be classifying out the big bits of gold.
That's alotta fines for one day..✌✌✌✌
R Boyd its pretty common for this creek
Would the MacKirk alone be a good option? You could see when it is loading up with black sand. Have you done a side by side test with the Croc?
Infact I have. The best sluice you can buy is the one your using. Everything has its pros and cons. The Mackirk is awesome, it loads up pretty fast so regular cleanouts are a must.
I've never seen a screen pan classifier like that before. Kinda like a combo of a saruka and gold pan.
Does it have a name? Any reviews on it?
with a 12 volt bilge pump and small battery you could "power" up the rocker box with continuous water supply.
Richard Servatius its been suggested a lot mate. Maybe in the future, for now I like lading
That's how I run mine 🙂 ua-cam.com/video/5_ARAjrb_Iw/v-deo.html
and here: ua-cam.com/video/zE8MdEWt130/v-deo.html
ooh vogus video!
thanks chris!
double sluicin it up! double whaaammmmy! no loss with that haha
interesting video. some nice pans included!
JP’s Canadian Adventure thanks mate.
ha! rockabox - nice tool! thanks!
I wish I had a creek like that, here there is at least 6 - 10 feet of overburden to bedrock.
BC5391 just spend the weekend there lol
As always, Chris, really well done and very informative. I was hoping you might do a video on how to use a hand dredge pump? I just bought one here in the US (one of the more regarded brands) but it has been very challenging (doesn't seem to pull up any material regardless of how much i tighten or loosen, etc.)..Was so excited when it showed up and went to the nearby river, but it has just been a colossal headache. If you have already done such a video (or know of one by someone else), could you please point me in the right direction? All the best and may a galaxy of shinies always appear in your pan!
John Taylor the main points are that you have to make sure the vales are wet first.
Then you have to be quick. Just before the top of the stroke you should already be moving it to your container. This way it still has suction.
Thanks Chris - so I pour some water in the top end before I start using, or do I completely remove the valve/handle assembly and put in in the creek first? Appreciate the help - you are amazing!!
John Taylor just let it sit in water for 10 minutes. If that does nothing then I'm out of ideas
Thank you!!
Your informational videos are always appreciated here.You have been a great teacher of prospecting for me. Those were some big rocks to move. Do you rent out Josh? I could use his strength. Enjoyed immensely. Thaks.
joel jeffery I could rent him out for a few days
After your last video, I was thinking that would be a good spot for your rocker box, and wondering if you still used it. This answers that question, and it was fun to see your old MineLab classifier and pan in action... ...it's been a while since we've seen that style of clip on pan reveal!
Nice video!
jarod phillips I like to mix up the gear a bit.
Nice editing Chris, do you always use a drone to fly down the creek? Hard work for that gold. Great information on particule sizes and times between cleanups. Glad to see you take someone out with you.
Is it video protocol for the guest not to talk? I’ve noticed other channels don’t have the guest talk either or put it on fast forward so the conversation sounds like Chipmunks.
Gary's Sprinkler Repair I fly my drone everywhere.
The people I go out with don't really get any instruction. Often their voices are not on film because the stuff we talk about is not related to the narrative of the video.
great vdeo my friend , well done :)
Goldwaschen in Deutschland thank you
Another great video mate!! Did you buy your rocker box or make it?? I am going to try and make one but can't find any good plans any tips on where to find some
Justin O'Brien friend of mine made it. Just look up how the old timers did it and copy that.
Vo-Gus Prospecting ok awesome thanks heaps
I hear you Chris I'm workimg decomp granite bedrock with tons of gold and tons of blk sand. Blk sand from 20 mesh to 300 mesh . about a gallon per 5 gallon of pay
CALIFORNIA GOLD RUSH that's a lot of black!
Vo-Gus Prospecting lot of gold to!' Lol
shared!
Do you think you would have been able to recover more gold using a 6" sluice with a mini vortex mat compared to the sluices that were used?
Yes
Could you feed the sluices slower to allow the riffles to clear more and leave space for gold?
Yes you could. But super impatient lol
Me too, my highbanker has never worked to spec because it's always over loaded.
Yo bro just got a croc gold trap , medium size . do ya set it more level for fine gold or on a incline ? cheers bro
Danny Amos mostly level over a drop like in this video. Maybe a 1" total drop
Vo-Gus Prospecting cheers legend
Some black sands can be valuable
Why don't folks use a magnet bar (like for picking up nails) at the top of sluice to pick up black sand. I would think a 2-3 wide bar that just clips in for easy cleaning would leave more space for gold.
The black.sand is non magnetic
Gee... not around here@@VoGusProspecting
Do you know where I can get a blueprint for a rocker box on the cheap or free thank you
Google bro. We made this looking at 1800s picture of rockers.
Can’t wait to watch this video!
Jack's Gems did you like it?
Vo-Gus Prospecting Of course! I knew when you went back to that spot with good gold you would get some, and you definitely did. You should do a test comparing the croc and a normal sluice on how much gold they can recover in a certain amount of time. You might lose some with the croc but more than likely you will recover a lot more because of how much material you processed
On granite have you considered it may be Thorium?
Steve Treloar the geological survey on the area say Tin. But I don't know enough to understand it all fully
It was just a thought, granites can test so high for Uranium and Thorium (up to an ounce a ton) but the Uranium gets leached away leaving Thorium. I don't know anything about Tin much except the very basics.
Steve Treloar I know the background radiation in the area is 3.5 times hirer than that national average so its probably.
great video .one day ill get you to come to my factory so you can see how i extract gold out of e waiste .i have a tip for you in your grading and classifying .ok i get a white bucket cut the bottom out of it .i glue rear earth magnets on the out side of the bucket .i put the material through the white cylinder and any magnetic stone sticks to the bucket. you can use a water PvC pipe also .these rear earth magnets are so powerfull they pick up dust from the air that magnetic they will pick a screw of the ground 1 foot of the ground .the company is in Bayswater vic .the magnets are dear but i swear if you have them one in each hand and you don't hold on they will jump put of your hand hit together and explode to fragments .they come with danger stickers .these would help you remove all black sand before you process .i use them on my copper granulator machine to purify tons of copper a day .cheers Tim COCONUT COPPER & E WAISTE GOLD RECOVERY .cheers hope it helps
Tim Vivoda that actually a pretty good idea
i have to process copper if I get 1 .1gram of iron .metal in 1 tone of copper its sent back and I have to run it through the machine again .i use the rear earth magnets when I detect i put the magnets inside the pvc pipe put 2 weels on it and I pull all the iron bits of tini steel fragments .and detect and it works incredibly .these magnets will pick up every spec of black sand iron stone fishing hooks swivels you name it .the magnets come in every shape and size. but i advise you put a plastic bag over them as its a big job getting the iron off .look i had one jump off my pick and jump onto the bonnet of my 4x4 it took me 3 days to get it of the hilux .if you stuck them on a classifying pan youl get everything magnetic i mean even thing .i had one magnet the size of a 20c coin it looked like a furry tennis ball from 1 bucket of pay dirt .
another great video. I've been meaning to do the same with my croc. I came across some weird stuff in a old gold mine today. I posted a video. was wondering if you have ever seen anything like it
East Gippsland gold adventure post a link.
ua-cam.com/video/GcU0MqGk758/v-deo.html
I hoped that worked I'm shit on phones and computers
East Gippsland gold adventure it did. I've no idea what it is. You should lick it.
lol that could make for a good utube clip
Dont pour water into the sluice out of the buckets?
Is it enough with the little CGTG? I do not much crevicing yet. Or big cracks.I like easy packing. So I have room for more gold when I go home ;)
Kenneth.
MrInsaint enough what?
I personally love the CGT Gator, its so good for hiking or traveling because of its size. The main limitation is its small capture zone.
Sorry, Chris. I meant what size is enough. 18 ", 30" or 36 "? I have a pretty big backpack, so I get room for 36 ", Salty Gold Trap Sluice. But is it necessary?
MrInsaint the mid size is the best for most situations
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Use a hoist to pull,those rocks, not your back.
Youre not wrong
Aceeed😊
204 nice result.
Hydraulic riffles
Your box is pretty dirty too (as I was saying in reply on the last video.)
Stuart Chignell its filthy
I've got a bunch of materials that I was going to experiment with in my sluice. Might have to give the rocker another go.
It is neither a micro dot nor a nano dot as it is a milli dot.
Noice
I wanted to hear all those dirt and stones sounds but instead I get techo music.
i don't like your classifying pan. there is a commercially made one that fits down into buckets, almost sealing the edges so you can use water on smaller sizes. i'll see if i can find the manufacturer for you.
Richard Servatius I like my classifying pan lol
If u need to lift big rock with ease even a ton rock with ease if u get back to this message I'll tell u how your job would be so much easier and quicker and it's simple let's c if u get back to this message good luck
Not so nice intro beat
Daniel Rangel Yer its not nice, its awesome.
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