“I can express the happiness my soul feels when I realise Pakistan has been created, Now it is a duty of the muslims to make it a model state” - this is what jinnah said
One thing is very clear, the British had messed it up with the Indian subcontinent, both during their regime and while leaving. This led to a bloodshed(both communities got affected). Funny thing is that we people still fight with each other, but except someone like Mr.Shashi Tharoor, no one has pointed out the British, who were according to my opinion, were the real culprits
@@eden55272 Tabhi aaj tak develop nai ho paa rai. Aisa prakop tha muhajirs ka. Humara karachi aur hyderabad aaj b aapko support kar ra hai economy wise.
@Akarsh2008yeppp alongwith them you have to give back Junagarh, ahmedabad, Agra, Lucknow as well as they are part of Muslim heritage that live there. How's it sound?
Hatred this side or that side of border is even more than Israel-Palestine, and North-South Korea Other separated nations by invaders eventually United by this divide and rule trap prime example is East and West Germany, North and South Vietnam😎
What I don't understand is how Muslims still exist in the Indian continent if I found out that my religion was forced on me just a few centuries ago, I would immediately try to convert to my true native religion
@@Daniel_jackson22it was hindu majority till partition happened and moreover mostly conversion to islam was not forceful but voluntary due to casteism and discrimination of lower castes and dalits
😂partition happened because in this area Muslim was in majority. According to referendum at that Muslim were living there. Secondly why Hindus leave their religion easily but Muslims never@@mihirvijayvargiya6136
It was a hindu majority but when india get cities like Mumbai,delhi,Kolkata, banglore jinah said we also want a city and so British gave Lahore to Pakistan
Lahore was not a Hindu majority town before partition. "The 1941 census showed that city of Lahore had a population of 671,659, of which was 64.5% Muslim, with the remainder 35% being Hindu and Sikh, alongside a small Christian community."
Not in majority but were a key component of Lahore's wealthy elites. Banks, property, industry were mostly under Hindu and sikh there that's why until last moment Lahore's fate was not easy to decide
@@anurundey4722 and all that property is grabbed by muslims in Pakistan and rarely given to muslims migrated to Pakistan from India - called as Mohajirs , which was supposed to be done as per agreement during partition
No. I don't think so. Religious differences were there since ages even before British came. Cultural differences are part and parcels of Indian diversity. All of India was fighting against British. I agree with you "after damage had been done". After this division and hatred between communities have been sown, there was no going back Partition was necessary.
Complicated by British 'Divide and Rule policy' invaders between brother of same mother 👍 Clear cut policy was: Cut India into more than 100 pieces so that it couldn't United and to the result was Pak Ban and India🙏🏾
It could've been prevented if Jinnnah wished and tried for the opposite. The division only began because of the british (remember they devided bengal into hindu and muslim parts back in early 1900s) and the muslim league pushing for a separate nation. Before 1900s Hindus were living under muslim rulers and in many places muslims were living under hindu rulers. A united India could've worked but we'll never know
@@theawesomeman9821 Hindus also persecuted Hindus. Muslims also persecuted muslims in India. I'd say hindus probably killed more hindus and Buddhists than the other muslims did. Your point being ?
Capital was shifted to Islamabad in 1960's . Conflict between native sindhis and immigrants erupted immediately after partition and resulting dismissal of sindh government who were reluctant to accept immigrants on their lands .
Not that India is perfect today. But I look at the religious extremism in Pakistan. And I am glad that they were filtered out. We should prevent such kind of religious fundamentalism in India, from all communities.
Pakistan was created because of the religious nationalism building up in the majority Hindu political leaders, as a safeguard against religious extremism and nationalism.
Why was India 's Independence Preponed from 1948 to 1947 ? Why did Mountbatten suddenly declare that the Partition of India would take place with inexplicable haste on August 15, 1947, almost a year ahead of schedule? ....
I think religious and cultural differences were always there and Im glad that two very divergent communities separated who never had shared vision and common values to begin with. It has boarded well for India afterall.
I disagree completely. India can never be at full peace, nor realize its rightful potential as a world superpower, until the neighbor next door agrees to go along. With all due respect to Indians, the Germans and French were a lot more adept at empire building but never succeeded due to British control of the seas. Pakistan must be brought to heel, but, of course, cannot be by force. We are all desis and we must stop hindering each other. Peace is the door to greatness for all.
Partition was very important and I have read in a book that when Jinnah visited to Arab countries before independence there he told those countries leader about his vision and I will make a country that will protect Muslim Arab countries from south
If JINNAH didn't made Pakistan, there would be 500 million muslim minority in front of 1440 million non-muslims, instead of currently 250 million Muslims slaves. Separation was much needed.
Why do you Gujjus hate so much? I've notice the most hatred against Muslims coming from Gujarat... Probably why Jinnah who was forced to convert to Islam blamed Hinduism
Because all the rest of the groups are getting educated and the Hindus are far ahead in technology. Muslims decided to stay uneducated and have as many children as possible because it gave an edge they thought. Fornication for domination policy. What they didn't foresee was that technology would be super important and you could get locked out. So yes I also agree. Almost all groups inc scheduled tribes are doing better than the muslims. Except in crime stats. There the muslims in India do very well..
Btw, my great grandfathers came from Sindh. We were the landlords owning 2-3 villages by ourselves. Nothing was given to us when we came here. We stayed in temporary refugee barracks for decades. Nothing was given to us. These schemes which governments launch donot reach the common people in 2023, no such scheme or information reached my family members in 1947. We were robbed. We are struggling today as well. Each and everyone responsible for this partition as well as people responsible for not implementing schemes and safeguarding the interests of people like us, will always remain cursed, never at peace.
ppl in those 2-3 villages are starving. If your family had stayed in Pak, you would already be muslim or else your mothers-sisters-daughters would be raped and forcefully converted. Most sindhi hindus lost everything when they moved to India but today are some of the richest and wealthiest communities of India! So stop crying. Govt of any country does not do anything for you. You have to make your own money. Money comes in one generation and goes away in next. Look at Mukesh Ambani's ex-billionarie brother...today Anil is nothing. So people lose money in same generation as well. So stop complaining about two-three villages!
@@80sidd but you are safe in India , because of the secular government and peace loving people. Whereas it is quite opposite in Pakistan. People of other religions are terribly unsafe in Pakistan and are always under severe pressure to convert. Even the women in the families of non-muslims in Pakistan are not spared by religious fanatics there. That way , you are highly fortunate to be in a country like India. Express your gratitude for that .
@@av1421mister Ham sidhe Muslims ke liye pahle to thoda soch samajh Kar bole hamari histry kya hai aapse jyada Ham samajhte hai Ham pahle Hindu The bad mein Muslim bane chahe kaise bhi bane per ab Ham Muslim hai so please yah dharm parivartan ki baten aap apne pass hi rakhen kisi Muslims ko dekhte nahin aur dharm parivartan ki baten shuru
It is incorrect to say that Jinnah was shocked or taken aback by the violence. He had very well known that partition will lead to violence and terror. After all , he was the one to call for Direct Action day on August 16 1946, which led to mass killings in Calcutta. Stop potraying him as a paragon of peace or something. He very well knew what he was doing and he also knew its costs.
I have to agree with you. Jinnah was a diehard modernist and massively influenced by Machiavellian thought. He very readily admitted that not all Indian Muslims would be "rescued" by Pakistan. To him, a few hundred million lives sacrificed for his idiotic "vision" was worth it. Because, after all, he was an educated, modern gentleman and the backward, traditional masses had only themselves to blame for their fate.
@@mehrtanvir3478 utter nonsense. You don't get to be the source of said "civil war" and then pretend to be wise in preventing its occurrence. That is called a self-fulfilling prophecy. Indian Muslims were very much integrated in the freedom struggle but our northern Indian elites and rich Mumbai business class were terrified of losing their relevance in a new India, especially one shaping up to be a socialist one under Nehru. Their collective fears produced Pakistan, which has never been a place of peace. The partition was created on the pretext of religion, but its raison d'etre was simple power hunger.
@moazsharfuddin2697 in fact the condition of Muslims in India speaks a different story. The concept of majority and minority in the modern construct of European democracy did not fit well with the needs of the subcontinent, which was an amalgamation of several nations. Secularism is India's strength, but she too strives to uphold her principles, a fact that a greater mind foresaw as the obvious writing on the wall. The seeds of discord were planted much earlier. A sad state of affairs that perturbed the Ambassador of Hindu-Muslim unity. A man who was offered the guardianship of United India and a man who had left the politics of the subcontinent to live a very private, and peaceful life in London. He was a champion for the downtrodden, the second-class citizen, the men who would become a 'minority'. Why, Urdu had been declared a 'Muslim' language, simply because of its Persian script, and it was not even included or recognised in the census of the subcontinental languages as noted in the pamphlet issued by Chaudhry Rahmat Ali. It surprises me how much people deny the truth of history.
absolutely spot on! They were terrified of a massive brown empire controlling all world trade. How sad that Muslim elites were so blinded by fears of the "Hindu menace" they couldn't see that they were played for fools.
Hard to believe considering he was the one who gave the call of Direct Action to bring pressure for Partition. Maybe he didn't think we'd kill as many Muslims in self defense/retaliation as we did.
@@moonknight4562 so you are with deep faith that Pakistan is not failing and rather going in correct way ? So then , you also wish as I do - that Pakistan continues to move in the same path for decades to come.
Jinnah's mistake was our blessing. If not for Pakistan, east and west, today United India would have about 35% of the population as muslim, and with separate electorates, 35% of the seats in Lok Sabha would be controlled by the Muslim League. The Mayavatis and the Yadavs and DMKs would be only too happy to join them to get power and India would have been a big Lebanon. Jinnah wanted an exchange of populations, and Nehru refused. Jinnah went ahead and did nothing while ethnic cleansing took place. Jinnah got his wish. Long before 1947, GMSyed, JInnah's right hand in Sind, had already mentioned that we will get rid of all the hindus like Hitler got rid of all the jews, when we become independent. And they did.
Absolutely agree. It is a fact that , if Pakistan was not separated then , it would have been separated 10 or 20 years later due to muslims' attacks on other religions.
GM syed actually became pro hindu after partition. You should read up on him. Infact he once said "that even a muderer is convicted for a mistake for 14 years, but here he is suffering for his mistake for 20+ years". He tried to keep in touch with sindhi hindu leaders after partition, and was actually hated by pakistani generals after 1947.
Cherry picked facts to support a narrative. Can this interviewee explain how did India became so extremist? When talking about death of Jinnah and it’s circumstances, yet blaming him for Islamization, sounded a bit hypocritical when Gandhi was assassinated by extremists in his own town. I appreciate that good questions were asked.
In what way is India extremist. Of course you'll find pockets of extrimism anywhere but the country is not extremist. The cause of these pockets of extremism is the multiple extremist invasions suffered by the majority and the continuing minority appeasement politics of Congress Party.
When the partition was on religious basis why did he want muslims to remain in India and keep Hindus in pakitan as hostages . Today Hindus have been practically eliminated in pakistan and continue flourishing in the country they didn't want to live in.
All those people who r going mad on "Lahore was a Hindu Majority Town" are the ones who don't listen to the details carefully, the speaker here is not talking about "LAHORE DISTRICT" but Lahore city which was indeed a Hindu majority town, but the word "town" is conveniently missed by quarreling audience in the comment box..
3:40 wow what a joke . And what about districts of ferozepur and gurdaspur . Hyedrabad ? , people of Kashmir ? why dont india helds a plesbicite in Kashmir which she agreed to in the UN Assembly .
I searched about his origins and i found that he is a Khoja. The Khoja are a tribe originally from the western parts of the Indian subcontinent. Most of them are Nizari Ismaili Shia Muslims and the minority are Twelver Shia Muslims and Sunni Muslims. Some of them live in the Gulf countries where they are called Lawatia and some even live in Madagascar where they are called Karana.
But people like Javed Miandad harbourderd a deep hatred for Hindus and India, and, took every chance they got to insult us. Miandad was a mohajir from the border area of Gujarat.
@@redbaron9029with your religion nothing needs to be done, no? Who do you not hate?? Even amongst yourselves you are constantly killing each other. Thats the ideology you follow
The violence of partition in which everyone suffered was just poor management. British who had the authority, didn’t plan properly; Congress and Muslim league officers who in spite of differences had a cordial relationships never anticipated the raw emotions. Also, Congress and ML didn’t have governance experience. There is enough blame to go around. I don’t believe it was planned or desired. The hate and animosity came much later.
Already Pakistan was undone in 1971. A new country Bangladesh was born. Brother, seeing Pakistan from india, i feel that the country should focus more on improving itself rather than comparing itself with neighbouring countries like India. I am from Chennai, wher Hindus and Muslims have a cordial relationship but i dont think a Hindu in Pakistan will feel secure.
This can't be considered a mistake, especially when Modi's refusal to accede to reserved seats highlights Jinnah's forward-looking vision. Even if Jinnah's statements were not entirely serious, they were made in the context of addressing the plight of migration and mass transfer. He was right in envisioning Pakistan, although there have been issues with assimilation.
Absolutely. It was the best move ever. And we thank Jinnah every day. The mistake was from Nehru's side (of course) to not listen to Ambedkar and push for full population transfer because we have left ourselves a giant headache of a community that still follows some ideology developed by a camel herder.
Yes Jinnah was right. He saved India from Landlords and Civil War. Jinnah is one of the reason why India survived as a Secular democracy. He took 50% Anti-Secular and Anti-Democratic eements along with him.
We thank Jinnah for india ' s partition..he saved us from the muslim dominance ....u don't know what is India's politics ...it's only bjp who is hindu party ..otherwise all the parties of india east south west are secular party...
It would be good idea to let Jinnah Become First PM of United India and he could be on post for few months and we would not see those communal riots anytime in history.
Chittagong (bangla desh)was also Hindu majority. But what good in that? Even in hindu majority India they are being treated as third class people thanks to our secularism, democracy, minority mania and all.
There would be no Afghanistan and Soviet Union war, there would be no activity of the cold war imposed by the west in the Indian continent. Arabs would be stronger because of the Soviet Union's grip over the oil market. The Asian continent would be a much better place than today. Now the food for thought who took the benefit of creating Pakistan and cut the Indian continent from the western neighbors and created a new western neighbor ??
Creating Pakistan was the greatest respectable achievement of his life. In any case, the roots of partition are 2,300 years old, going back to Alexander's invasion or possibly the Persian invasion before him. The two Punjabs have been split along the Ravi river since back then.
Jina was Hindu before,For his own benefits,he demand a country for Muslim,He was willing to PM India,But congress not interested, it's the main reason of India divided & also British also support Jina to broke a big country
‘Creating Pakistan Was The Biggest Mistake Of My Life’ - Muhammad Ali Jinnah ?!? Which Bollywood's film dialogue is that that again? huh Strang to see Bollywood diverging into area of Parallel/multiverse topics in their film. I always thought they made shitty love stories with random ass dance numbers.
We are always thankfull to Almighty Allah for the partition irrespect there is economic crises in pakistan & political instability as well but still we have got religious freedom and we never regret for any thing so keep your bullshit with your ownself and stop making false claims
Ayub Khan Urdus and Punjabis were working as good obedient agents of Western capitalist world. Bhutto tried to shatter that many good Urdus supported him but West would not let him do so and created Urdu Sindhi riots
every body scolded Quaid and his companions when they dreamed about a separate country as Pakistan...But they did it...Only they people had the stamina to do that and endure every unpleasant talk or things happened to them during independence. I wonder how many stories are hidden and just the least is known to us. May Allah bless their souls..True patriots ❤
As a Pakistani, M Ali Jinnah never said this!!! His speech was about protection of those minorities who want to live in Pakistan when large migration happened on b/s.!!!!!!!!!
@@myounas4456 I knew that. But this person is putting his words in Jinnah's mouth, so I asked. I have done my research work on Jinnah....and never found any such document mentioning the same....so I was curious to know about
please do your research before making incorrect and illiterate comments and misguiding people. Pakistan was Jinnah's biggest dream and he fought for it till his last breath. Where do u even get these people from.crazy
১৯৪৭ এর ১৪ আগস্ট পূর্ব পাকিস্তান যে মানচিত্র পেয়েছিল , ওই মানচিত্র টাই বর্তমান বাংলাদেশ। বাংলাদেশ ভোগলিক সীমারেখার জন্য, ১৯৪৭ এবং জিন্নাহর অবদান স্বীকার করতে হবে। জিন্নাহ্ না হলে, কাশ্মীরের মুসলমানের অবস্থা হতো আমাদের। দ্বিজাতি তত্ত ' না মানলে বাংলাদেশের মুসলমানের কোনো স্বতন্ত্র অধিকার থাকে না, বাংলাদেশকে কলকাতার সাথে একীভূত হয়ে যেতে হবে। ১৯৭১ সালে পাকিস্তান ভাগ হয়েছে - এতে পাকিস্তান বা দ্বিজাতি তত্ত্ব মিথ্যা প্রমাণিত হয় না। বরং তা ১৯৪০ সালের শেরে বাংলা প্রস্তাবিত 'লাহোর প্রস্তাবের ' প্রতিফলন।
We Hindus are mainly responsible for the creation of Pakistan. Nehru and Gandhi were architects. Who told nehru to talk too much before independence not required.🙏
I don't think people from below the Vindhyas migrated as they would have been unaffected by the horrors of partition......we don't hear of any families moving from Kerala or Tamilnadu.
He very confidently said Jinnah regretted creating Pakistan, and claimed it is documented, but doesn't give any reference, which is quite confusing. Again when he claims Lahore being Hindu majority City he should quote the reference.
If you knew history and geography you would definitely have not put this question. Shame in present world where geography and history is a click away in general sense you are asking for a reference. It’s like asking “he says earth is oval but he doesn’t give a reference”.
Also u never talk about the minoriry in ur country infact theres no minority left in pakistan bcz of the forceful conversion and killing of the minority.
Partition was a huge political blunder . There is perhaps no documentary evidence which reveals that Jinah admitted his fault regarding creation of pskistan. However he was disappointed about partition of Punjab and Bengal. He further got dejected after his failure to occupy kashmir by force and his very weak position regarding state of Hyd. Specifically kashmir was as per his words a bearer cheque and a felling ripe fruit in his lap. This is the interesting discourse but requires a suitable person with a wit and wisdom to seek substantive information related to this Hyper sensitive issue from the worthy expert.
I don't agree with the title of this video. In my opinion, if it wasn't for the creation of Pakistan and present day Bangladesh, India would have been a Muslim majority country by now and instead of Modi there would have been a Bhuto or a Sharif as prime minister.
It is very frustrating to watch that a person who is running the podcast, has little knowledge of history, but with many challenges and obstacles, Pakistan was created, but strong hindu mentality was the reason, where muslims were not allowed to celebrate their religious events, and I watch many chef cooking mutton, but why not beef, and even muslims have to face discrimination for eating beef, and broken ambulance and many broken things were sent to Pakistan, and all the valuables were kept in India,
Shikhandi Gandhi -jinah & neharu all re equal responsible for broken of akhand bharat.who are they to deside to broke our country two parts only on religious basis.... Jai godse ji really u did a great work. You are true nationalist nationalist. You should be our father of the nation.
Yes we are happy of what ever we have thanks to our JB tak hae ye Dunia Baki ya atleast m alive I want Pakistan to be a separate nation.. and to be honest i really liked ur podcast but now ur always why created Pakistan what is ur issue apnay ghar may khush raho we are happy as well... We love our father of nation ... He ignore everything for it his health also personal life also and he didn't long also why there must b a reason so please stop assuming and pleasing some one... End of the topic
Discrimination has become a normal and a way if earning undue privileges for Urdu and Imi Punjabis they called themselves Mahagjir in their own to play Victim and gain power Sindhis were completely sidelined, and dwarfed
“I can express the happiness my soul feels when I realise Pakistan has been created, Now it is a duty of the muslims to make it a model state” - this is what jinnah said
😂😂model state
One thing is very clear, the British had messed it up with the Indian subcontinent, both during their regime and while leaving. This led to a bloodshed(both communities got affected). Funny thing is that we people still fight with each other, but except someone like Mr.Shashi Tharoor, no one has pointed out the British, who were according to my opinion, were the real culprits
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Lahore was not a Hindu majority city even then but had a sizeable Hindu polpulation. Like 60 - 40
All uttr Pradesh cities were Muslims majority... kapurthala, rampur was Muslim majority state
@@eden55272 Tabhi aaj tak develop nai ho paa rai. Aisa prakop tha muhajirs ka. Humara karachi aur hyderabad aaj b aapko support kar ra hai economy wise.
Lol Lahore was Hindu majority. Another day of securing content trom Whatsapp university.
No it was always Muslim majority. Telling you this as a Hindu historian
Assam Karimganj was Muslim majority
@@sharpxs5715murshidabad west bengal was Muslim majority
@@truthseeker-nv6ny hmm
@@truthseeker-nv6ny nadia had more Muslims 61% than murshidabad
Good that we separated from them but some who were left behind are a thorn for us
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@Akarsh2008yeppp alongwith them you have to give back Junagarh, ahmedabad, Agra, Lucknow as well as they are part of Muslim heritage that live there. How's it sound?
Hatred this side or that side of border is even more than Israel-Palestine, and North-South Korea
Other separated nations by invaders eventually United by this divide and rule trap prime example is East and West Germany, North and South Vietnam😎
What I don't understand is how Muslims still exist in the Indian continent
if I found out that my religion was forced on me just a few centuries ago, I would immediately try to convert to my true native religion
This is exactly the kind of ignorance which led to creation of Pakistan. Hindus could not even protect Gandhi from extremists within themselves.
"Lahore was Hindu majority" tells you a lot about this historian.
It was once Hindu majority. But due to muslim invaders like Ghori,Ghazni,mughal etc - it got converted to Muslim majority, later,
@@Daniel_jackson22it was hindu majority till partition happened and moreover mostly conversion to islam was not forceful but voluntary due to casteism and discrimination of lower castes and dalits
😂partition happened because in this area Muslim was in majority.
According to referendum at that Muslim were living there.
Secondly why Hindus leave their religion easily but Muslims never@@mihirvijayvargiya6136
@@mihirvijayvargiya6136nobody can change anybody faith and thoughts forcefully 😂
It was a hindu majority but when india get cities like Mumbai,delhi,Kolkata, banglore jinah said we also want a city and so British gave Lahore to Pakistan
Lahore was not a Hindu majority town before partition.
"The 1941 census showed that city of Lahore had a population of 671,659, of which was 64.5% Muslim, with the remainder 35% being Hindu and Sikh, alongside a small Christian community."
Yes but all musalman did not leave from India
Not in majority but were a key component of Lahore's wealthy elites.
Banks, property, industry were mostly under Hindu and sikh there that's why until last moment Lahore's fate was not easy to decide
That does not mean muslims have right to torture people of other religions.
Most property in lahore was owned by hindus and sikhs
@@anurundey4722 and all that property is grabbed by muslims in Pakistan and rarely given to muslims migrated to Pakistan from India - called as Mohajirs , which was supposed to be done as per agreement during partition
I still think partition was necessary. The religious and cultural differences were too complicated.
No. I don't think so. Religious differences were there since ages even before British came. Cultural differences are part and parcels of Indian diversity. All of India was fighting against British.
I agree with you "after damage had been done". After this division and hatred between communities have been sown, there was no going back Partition was necessary.
Complicated by British 'Divide and Rule policy' invaders between brother of same mother 👍
Clear cut policy was:
Cut India into more than 100 pieces so that it couldn't United and to the result was Pak Ban and India🙏🏾
It could've been prevented if Jinnnah wished and tried for the opposite. The division only began because of the british (remember they devided bengal into hindu and muslim parts back in early 1900s) and the muslim league pushing for a separate nation. Before 1900s Hindus were living under muslim rulers and in many places muslims were living under hindu rulers. A united India could've worked but we'll never know
@@anurundey4722 if you look at history, the Hindus and the Muslims persecuted each other for centuries, dividing India and Pakistan was the right call
@@theawesomeman9821 Hindus also persecuted Hindus. Muslims also persecuted muslims in India. I'd say hindus probably killed more hindus and Buddhists than the other muslims did. Your point being ?
Why the f are you people so obsessed with Pakistan?
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10 to 20 lakh people died, it's important part of recent history of this geography.
the subcontinent went through a bitter bloodbath, why not talk about it? Pakistan and India belonged to same administration back then
Capital was shifted to Islamabad in 1960's .
Conflict between native sindhis and immigrants erupted immediately after partition and resulting dismissal of sindh government who were reluctant to accept immigrants on their lands .
Not that India is perfect today. But I look at the religious extremism in Pakistan. And I am glad that they were filtered out. We should prevent such kind of religious fundamentalism in India, from all communities.
Pakistan was created because of the religious nationalism building up in the majority Hindu political leaders, as a safeguard against religious extremism and nationalism.
Why was India 's Independence Preponed from 1948 to 1947 ?
Why did Mountbatten suddenly declare that the Partition of India would take place with inexplicable haste on August 15, 1947, almost a year ahead of schedule? ....
Britishers had a doubt about Jinnah surviving till independence.
A small query. If Mr.Jinnah was against voilence, then what was "The Direct Action Day" in 1946 at Calcutta(as per history, initiated by him)
I think religious and cultural differences were always there and Im glad that two very divergent communities separated who never had shared vision and common values to begin with.
It has boarded well for India afterall.
I disagree completely. India can never be at full peace, nor realize its rightful potential as a world superpower, until the neighbor next door agrees to go along. With all due respect to Indians, the Germans and French were a lot more adept at empire building but never succeeded due to British control of the seas. Pakistan must be brought to heel, but, of course, cannot be by force. We are all desis and we must stop hindering each other. Peace is the door to greatness for all.
He remembers Lahore which was not in fact Hindu Majority at all but fails to mention Gurdaspur district which was Muslim Majority
Partition was very important and I have read in a book that when Jinnah visited to Arab countries before independence there he told those countries leader about his vision and I will make a country that will protect Muslim Arab countries from south
Jinnah realized his biggest mistake he had started seeing the future of "Pakistan" we have seen in front of our eyes since many decades
thank you
Being a Pakistani, I confess that he knows Pakistan better than most of Pakistani.
And he said Lahore was hindu majority before partion. You being a Pakistani surely know nothing. DELHI was MUSLIM majority
@@danielkazmi2180 Lahore was actually Hindu Majority City if you Don't know, Research and Come again to admit your mistake 😊
@@Ali-mc9lx according to 1941 census lahore was 64.5% muslim. Go and research. Apologize to me later 🙂
No.. I knew all this years ago
Jinnah was apologizing himself after making so called pakistan😂😢@@danielkazmi2180
If JINNAH didn't made Pakistan, there would be 500 million muslim minority in front of 1440 million non-muslims, instead of currently 250 million Muslims slaves. Separation was much needed.
Why do you Gujjus hate so much? I've notice the most hatred against Muslims coming from Gujarat... Probably why Jinnah who was forced to convert to Islam blamed Hinduism
@@CW-rx2js I'm not Gujrati but a Pakistani
Indian muslims are not slavesChina muslims are saves first know that.
@@KanuniSuleyman4857well at the rate their levels of education are going, thanks to the madrasas they will be
Because all the rest of the groups are getting educated and the Hindus are far ahead in technology. Muslims decided to stay uneducated and have as many children as possible because it gave an edge they thought. Fornication for domination policy. What they didn't foresee was that technology would be super important and you could get locked out. So yes I also agree. Almost all groups inc scheduled tribes are doing better than the muslims. Except in crime stats. There the muslims in India do very well..
Btw, my great grandfathers came from Sindh. We were the landlords owning 2-3 villages by ourselves. Nothing was given to us when we came here. We stayed in temporary refugee barracks for decades. Nothing was given to us. These schemes which governments launch donot reach the common people in 2023, no such scheme or information reached my family members in 1947. We were robbed. We are struggling today as well. Each and everyone responsible for this partition as well as people responsible for not implementing schemes and safeguarding the interests of people like us, will always remain cursed, never at peace.
ppl in those 2-3 villages are starving. If your family had stayed in Pak, you would already be muslim or else your mothers-sisters-daughters would be raped and forcefully converted. Most sindhi hindus lost everything when they moved to India but today are some of the richest and wealthiest communities of India! So stop crying. Govt of any country does not do anything for you. You have to make your own money. Money comes in one generation and goes away in next. Look at Mukesh Ambani's ex-billionarie brother...today Anil is nothing. So people lose money in same generation as well. So stop complaining about two-three villages!
I too was a King 😅 but Indian republic took my kingdom 😅
@@80sidd but you are safe in India , because of the secular government and peace loving people. Whereas it is quite opposite in Pakistan. People of other religions are terribly unsafe in Pakistan and are always under severe pressure to convert. Even the women in the families of non-muslims in Pakistan are not spared by religious fanatics there. That way , you are highly fortunate to be in a country like India. Express your gratitude for that .
@@av1421mister Ham sidhe Muslims ke liye pahle to thoda soch samajh Kar bole hamari histry kya hai aapse jyada Ham samajhte hai Ham pahle Hindu The bad mein Muslim bane chahe kaise bhi bane per ab Ham Muslim hai so please yah dharm parivartan ki baten aap apne pass hi rakhen kisi Muslims ko dekhte nahin aur dharm parivartan ki baten shuru
where in Sindh you belongs to? people from sindh still Love and miss our migrated Sindhi brothers
2:50 Quad e azam Muhammad Ali Jinnah never classified himself to any sect . He emphasized a universal Muslim identity .
It is incorrect to say that Jinnah was shocked or taken aback by the violence. He had very well known that partition will lead to violence and terror. After all , he was the one to call for Direct Action day on August 16 1946, which led to mass killings in Calcutta. Stop potraying him as a paragon of peace or something. He very well knew what he was doing and he also knew its costs.
He basically thought that only hindus and sikhs will be killed. Once he saw muslims getting killed , he had a meltdown
I have to agree with you. Jinnah was a diehard modernist and massively influenced by Machiavellian thought. He very readily admitted that not all Indian Muslims would be "rescued" by Pakistan. To him, a few hundred million lives sacrificed for his idiotic "vision" was worth it. Because, after all, he was an educated, modern gentleman and the backward, traditional masses had only themselves to blame for their fate.
He prevented the subcontinent falling into a very bloody civil war, a taste of which everybody saw during Partition.
@@mehrtanvir3478 utter nonsense. You don't get to be the source of said "civil war" and then pretend to be wise in preventing its occurrence. That is called a self-fulfilling prophecy. Indian Muslims were very much integrated in the freedom struggle but our northern Indian elites and rich Mumbai business class were terrified of losing their relevance in a new India, especially one shaping up to be a socialist one under Nehru. Their collective fears produced Pakistan, which has never been a place of peace. The partition was created on the pretext of religion, but its raison d'etre was simple power hunger.
@moazsharfuddin2697 in fact the condition of Muslims in India speaks a different story. The concept of majority and minority in the modern construct of European democracy did not fit well with the needs of the subcontinent, which was an amalgamation of several nations. Secularism is India's strength, but she too strives to uphold her principles, a fact that a greater mind foresaw as the obvious writing on the wall. The seeds of discord were planted much earlier. A sad state of affairs that perturbed the Ambassador of Hindu-Muslim unity. A man who was offered the guardianship of United India and a man who had left the politics of the subcontinent to live a very private, and peaceful life in London. He was a champion for the downtrodden, the second-class citizen, the men who would become a 'minority'. Why, Urdu had been declared a 'Muslim' language, simply because of its Persian script, and it was not even included or recognised in the census of the subcontinental languages as noted in the pamphlet issued by Chaudhry Rahmat Ali. It surprises me how much people deny the truth of history.
The partition was important to the Western Govt and their future political policies, not for Indian people.
Choudhry Rahmat Ali was working on behalf of the West?
absolutely spot on! They were terrified of a massive brown empire controlling all world trade. How sad that Muslim elites were so blinded by fears of the "Hindu menace" they couldn't see that they were played for fools.
@@thepolishpen why is he a certified waliullah that he can't have been blindsided by irrational fears and prejudice?
Lahore was never hindu majority, You can disagree with Jinnah stance, but to twist history like this is absolute bonkers
How far back did you go in the history for this statement, "Lahore was never hindu majority"? When did history of Lahore or Pakistan start for you?
@@SugarCoatedPillsDon't tell me now that because all were Hindus before, Lahore was Hindu majority 'once upon a time'. That's a stupid statement.
Jinnah said it was a big mistake.
Source: trust me bro 😅
Hard to believe considering he was the one who gave the call of Direct Action to bring pressure for Partition. Maybe he didn't think we'd kill as many Muslims in self defense/retaliation as we did.
After failure of Pakistan as a nation , he might have felt like that
@@mahendrakvuppala3047failure of Pakistan? Stop watching and believing everything godi media feeds you. 😂😂
@@moonknight4562 so you are with deep faith that Pakistan is not failing and rather going in correct way ?
So then , you also wish as I do - that Pakistan continues to move in the same path for decades to come.
That's not Self-Defense dude.
@@moonknight4562Pakistan is failing without Imran Khan
can you clip this series in order or just merge this all series into one video .. then it would help a lot
Jinnah's mistake was our blessing. If not for Pakistan, east and west, today United India would have about 35% of the population as muslim, and with separate electorates, 35% of the seats in Lok Sabha would be controlled by the Muslim League. The Mayavatis and the Yadavs and DMKs would be only too happy to join them to get power and India would have been a big Lebanon. Jinnah wanted an exchange of populations, and Nehru refused. Jinnah went ahead and did nothing while ethnic cleansing took place. Jinnah got his wish. Long before 1947, GMSyed, JInnah's right hand in Sind, had already mentioned that we will get rid of all the hindus like Hitler got rid of all the jews, when we become independent. And they did.
Wth a hoax and nothing else this statement
Very true
Absolutely agree. It is a fact that , if Pakistan was not separated then , it would have been separated 10 or 20 years later due to muslims' attacks on other religions.
Lmao, as if no muslims were killed during the partition.
GM syed actually became pro hindu after partition. You should read up on him. Infact he once said "that even a muderer is convicted for a mistake for 14 years, but here he is suffering for his mistake for 20+ years". He tried to keep in touch with sindhi hindu leaders after partition, and was actually hated by pakistani generals after 1947.
Cherry picked facts to support a narrative. Can this interviewee explain how did India became so extremist? When talking about death of Jinnah and it’s circumstances, yet blaming him for Islamization, sounded a bit hypocritical when Gandhi was assassinated by extremists in his own town.
I appreciate that good questions were asked.
In what way is India extremist. Of course you'll find pockets of extrimism anywhere but the country is not extremist. The cause of these pockets of extremism is the multiple extremist invasions suffered by the majority and the continuing minority appeasement politics of Congress Party.
Absolutely correct question.
''Quaid-i-Azam Jinnah said Hindus and Muslims cannot coexist as one nation ...''
Quaid e Azam never said that creating Pakistan was his mistake i think u are graduated from Whatsapp university 😅
Read his personal assistant book at end of life he regretted
@@nikhilhembrom8952 all lies
@@sohaibrazzaq2160 so according to you
Jinnahs PERSONAL ASSISTANT BOOK is wrong?
@@sohaibrazzaq2160when you don't want to hear others why are u here??
I see some madarsa university graduates trying to debate 😂
When the partition was on religious basis why did he want muslims to remain in India and keep Hindus in pakitan as hostages . Today Hindus have been practically eliminated in pakistan and continue flourishing in the country they didn't want to live in.
All those people who r going mad on "Lahore was a Hindu Majority Town" are the ones who don't listen to the details carefully, the speaker here is not talking about "LAHORE DISTRICT" but Lahore city which was indeed a Hindu majority town, but the word "town" is conveniently missed by quarreling audience in the comment box..
3:40 wow what a joke . And what about districts of ferozepur and gurdaspur . Hyedrabad ? , people of Kashmir ? why dont india helds a plesbicite in Kashmir which she agreed to in the UN Assembly .
Please do a PODCAST on HINDU SINDHIS who fled Pakistan to India and now spread across the world.
Millions of innocent people lost their lives.
For no reason.
Jinnah also doesn't look like an Indian/Pakistani.
He looks like an Englishman with a muslim name.
Or might be balochi😂
I searched about his origins and i found that he is a Khoja. The Khoja are a tribe originally from the western parts of the Indian subcontinent. Most of them are Nizari Ismaili Shia Muslims and the minority are Twelver Shia Muslims and Sunni Muslims. Some of them live in the Gulf countries where they are called Lawatia and some even live in Madagascar where they are called Karana.
But people like Javed Miandad harbourderd a deep hatred for Hindus and India, and, took every chance they got to insult us. Miandad was a mohajir from the border area of Gujarat.
Ever thought what you did wrong with others that generated hatred?
@@redbaron9029with your religion nothing needs to be done, no? Who do you not hate?? Even amongst yourselves you are constantly killing each other. Thats the ideology you follow
Yup, loved it when balasaheb showed him his aukaat. He frantically pleaded to bala saheb for india pak cricket match, and was promptly shown the door.
If lahore is hindu mijority .then gujrat .fazlika.. zera and especially kashmir all are muslim majority... What about all of these?
The violence of partition in which everyone suffered was just poor management. British who had the authority, didn’t plan properly; Congress and Muslim league officers who in spite of differences had a cordial relationships never anticipated the raw emotions. Also, Congress and ML didn’t have governance experience. There is enough blame to go around. I don’t believe it was planned or desired. The hate and animosity came much later.
Mahajir means immigrant. Most Muhajir's mother tongue was Urdu speaking. I am one of them but my family settled in Lahore (thank God)
"No power on earth can undo pakistan" - Quaid e azam
Already Pakistan was undone in 1971. A new country Bangladesh was born. Brother, seeing Pakistan from india, i feel that the country should focus more on improving itself rather than comparing itself with neighbouring countries like India. I am from Chennai, wher Hindus and Muslims have a cordial relationship but i dont think a Hindu in Pakistan will feel secure.
This can't be considered a mistake, especially when Modi's refusal to accede to reserved seats highlights Jinnah's forward-looking vision. Even if Jinnah's statements were not entirely serious, they were made in the context of addressing the plight of migration and mass transfer. He was right in envisioning Pakistan, although there have been issues with assimilation.
Absolutely. It was the best move ever. And we thank Jinnah every day. The mistake was from Nehru's side (of course) to not listen to Ambedkar and push for full population transfer because we have left ourselves a giant headache of a community that still follows some ideology developed by a camel herder.
Yes Jinnah was right. He saved India from Landlords and Civil War. Jinnah is one of the reason why India survived as a Secular democracy. He took 50% Anti-Secular and Anti-Democratic eements along with him.
Your chronological order is inconvenient sir
This is not right.
You need to read the complete and right history and then explain.
Who's the guest?
Pakistan zindabaad. Thanks to Jinnah for pakistan
We thank Jinnah for india ' s partition..he saved us from the muslim dominance ....u don't know what is India's politics ...it's only bjp who is hindu party ..otherwise all the parties of india east south west are secular party...
It would be good idea to let Jinnah Become First PM of United India and he could be on post for few months and we would not see those communal riots anytime in history.
Chittagong (bangla desh)was also Hindu majority. But what good in that? Even in hindu majority India they are being treated as third class people thanks to our secularism, democracy, minority mania and all.
There would be no Afghanistan and Soviet Union war, there would be no activity of the cold war imposed by the west in the Indian continent. Arabs would be stronger because of the Soviet Union's grip over the oil market. The Asian continent would be a much better place than today. Now the food for thought who took the benefit of creating Pakistan and cut the Indian continent from the western neighbors and created a new western neighbor ??
I agree. ... Pak was created by US & UK nexus to keep their hold on Indian subcontinent
Pakistan should never have been made
Creating Pakistan was the greatest respectable achievement of his life.
In any case, the roots of partition are 2,300 years old, going back to Alexander's invasion or possibly the Persian invasion before him. The two Punjabs have been split along the Ravi river since back then.
Jinah ; sub se bari mistake pakistan banana aggar na banata to india he pakistan hota...... or hoga
Jina was Hindu before,For his own benefits,he demand a country for Muslim,He was willing to PM India,But congress not interested, it's the main reason of India divided & also British also support Jina to broke a big country
Brig.Noor Husain the ADC on duty has refuted the story of Jinnah ' s this statement
As I was listening to the last sentence.....3000 people were butured by Pakistan army.....Ranveer said enjoyed the video
Chill it was an editing mistake
@@Proud_banda hope so
‘Creating Pakistan Was The Biggest Mistake Of My Life’ - Muhammad Ali Jinnah ?!? Which Bollywood's film dialogue is that that again? huh Strang to see Bollywood diverging into area of Parallel/multiverse topics in their film. I always thought they made shitty love stories with random ass dance numbers.
I think Bhutto"s family was fromJunagadh
We are always thankfull to Almighty Allah for the partition irrespect there is economic crises in pakistan & political instability as well but still we have got religious freedom and we never regret for any thing so keep your bullshit with your ownself and stop making false claims
Ayub Khan Urdus and Punjabis were working as good obedient agents of Western capitalist world. Bhutto tried to shatter that many good Urdus supported him but West would not let him do so and created Urdu Sindhi riots
every body scolded Quaid and his companions when they dreamed about a separate country as Pakistan...But they did it...Only they people had the stamina to do that and endure every unpleasant talk or things happened to them during independence. I wonder how many stories are hidden and just the least is known to us. May Allah bless their souls..True patriots ❤
Partition was the best thing to happen but why did so many Indian muslims stay back. They must have left.
All the Indian subcontinent leaders during the Freedom Movement were not the Statesmen except Netaji.
Where is it documented that Jinnah admitted that creating Pakistan was his biggest mistake?
As a Pakistani, M Ali Jinnah never said this!!! His speech was about protection of those minorities who want to live in Pakistan when large migration happened on b/s.!!!!!!!!!
@@myounas4456 I knew that. But this person is putting his words in Jinnah's mouth, so I asked. I have done my research work on Jinnah....and never found any such document mentioning the same....so I was curious to know about
please do your research before making incorrect and illiterate comments and misguiding people. Pakistan was Jinnah's biggest dream and he fought for it till his last breath. Where do u even get these people from.crazy
১৯৪৭ এর ১৪ আগস্ট পূর্ব পাকিস্তান যে মানচিত্র পেয়েছিল , ওই মানচিত্র টাই বর্তমান বাংলাদেশ। বাংলাদেশ ভোগলিক সীমারেখার জন্য, ১৯৪৭ এবং জিন্নাহর অবদান স্বীকার করতে হবে।
জিন্নাহ্ না হলে, কাশ্মীরের মুসলমানের অবস্থা হতো আমাদের।
দ্বিজাতি তত্ত ' না মানলে বাংলাদেশের
মুসলমানের কোনো স্বতন্ত্র অধিকার থাকে না, বাংলাদেশকে কলকাতার সাথে একীভূত হয়ে যেতে হবে।
১৯৭১ সালে পাকিস্তান ভাগ হয়েছে - এতে পাকিস্তান বা দ্বিজাতি তত্ত্ব মিথ্যা প্রমাণিত হয় না। বরং তা ১৯৪০ সালের শেরে বাংলা প্রস্তাবিত 'লাহোর প্রস্তাবের ' প্রতিফলন।
To know the facets one has to be on the ground which probably you were not or don't
Have the first hand knowledge
We Hindus are mainly responsible for the creation of Pakistan. Nehru and Gandhi were architects. Who told nehru to talk too much before independence not required.🙏
This gentleman is giving his own version, mostly to promote the Indian perspective.
Some basic facts, however, are correct.
So it was Jinnah and not Nehru or Gandhi.
I don't think people from below the Vindhyas migrated as they would have been unaffected by the horrors of partition......we don't hear of any families moving from Kerala or Tamilnadu.
Don't worry. They will face the same problem reasonably soon. The muslim menace is increasing in the south. They never learnt the lessons.of partition
He very confidently said Jinnah regretted creating Pakistan, and claimed it is documented, but doesn't give any reference, which is quite confusing.
Again when he claims Lahore being Hindu majority City he should quote the reference.
If you knew history and geography you would definitely have not put this question. Shame in present world where geography and history is a click away in general sense you are asking for a reference. It’s like asking “he says earth is oval but he doesn’t give a reference”.
The way Pakistani PM have been killed or put in jail, the ambulance fiasco with Jinnah could have been a conspiracy.
Clown to clown conversations 🤡🤡🤡🤡
Ranveer's reactions are always quite unique 😂
After all
Britisher hum ko bebkoof Bana dia
Against Britisher❌️ Against pok/ind✅️
I am blessing Jinnah for creating Pakistan, as I see the treatment of Muslims in India
How about the treatment of Muslims in Pakistan? Or perhaps you don't consider Baluchis and Mohajirs "proper" Muslims?
@@moazsharfuddin2697 the whole Pakistanis are beating by establishment but comparative to Indian Muslim it's still better
Lmao bro muslims population has increased by 10% since 1947 if thwre would have been any mistreatment why the muslim population increased in india?
Also u never talk about the minoriry in ur country infact theres no minority left in pakistan bcz of the forceful conversion and killing of the minority.
@@user1ejej not even a single case of forceful conversion
पापों की सजा हर किसी को भुगतनी ही पडती है 😂 खुद तो पापिस्तान बनाकर मर गया और ७५ साल बाद और हजारों को आपस में लढवाकर मार रहा है माचो 😮😢
MQM did not won seats in Karachi and Hyderabad not whole of Pakistan
If the anchor represents young people in India and their level of knowledge, I feel sorry for us.
India did not give Pakistan its assets at the time of partition.
Partition was a huge political blunder . There is perhaps no documentary evidence which reveals that Jinah admitted his fault regarding creation of pskistan. However he was disappointed about partition of Punjab and Bengal. He further got dejected after his failure to occupy kashmir by force and his very weak position regarding state of Hyd. Specifically kashmir was as per his words a bearer cheque and a felling ripe fruit in his lap.
This is the interesting discourse but requires a suitable person with a wit and wisdom to seek substantive information related to this Hyper sensitive issue from the worthy expert.
100/ true
Direct Action day was order if Jinnah to Bengali so he should have known the riots would erupt and Ayub Khan defied JINNAH and did not stop riots
9:51
Hijarat simply means migration or exiodus at large scale and the oerson who shifts from one olace to another is called muhajir .
I don't agree with the title of this video. In my opinion, if it wasn't for the creation of Pakistan and present day Bangladesh, India would have been a Muslim majority country by now and instead of Modi there would have been a Bhuto or a Sharif as prime minister.
The amount money being poured to by congress party into india right now is increasing the countrys gdp😂
It is very frustrating to watch that a person who is running the podcast, has little knowledge of history, but with many challenges and obstacles, Pakistan was created, but strong hindu mentality was the reason, where muslims were not allowed to celebrate their religious events, and I watch many chef cooking mutton, but why not beef, and even muslims have to face discrimination for eating beef, and broken ambulance and many broken things were sent to Pakistan, and all the valuables were kept in India,
Shikhandi Gandhi -jinah & neharu all re equal responsible for broken of akhand bharat.who are they to deside to broke our country two parts only on religious basis....
Jai godse ji really u did a great work. You are true nationalist nationalist. You should be our father of the nation.
Where did mr Jinnah said that creating Pakistan was the biggest mistake??? No documented, he declared I'm Muslim not shia or sunni
Yes we are happy of what ever we have thanks to our JB tak hae ye Dunia Baki ya atleast m alive I want Pakistan to be a separate nation.. and to be honest i really liked ur podcast but now ur always why created Pakistan what is ur issue apnay ghar may khush raho we are happy as well... We love our father of nation ... He ignore everything for it his health also personal life also and he didn't long also why there must b a reason so please stop assuming and pleasing some one... End of the topic
we are more happy, this happiness has only started shortly and will go on for a long time
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I am muhajir and i live Pakistan
Lahore was not Hindu majority but 40 % were hindus
This guy really making shit up 😂😂
Why did sikhs n hindus leave pakistan. They had been there for millions of years
Even bhutto himself muhazir
Tell your politicians to read what was documented. Stop spreading lies to hide their failures.
Pls TRS reads history before doing this type of episode
Discrimination has become a normal and a way if earning undue privileges for Urdu and Imi Punjabis they called themselves Mahagjir in their own to play Victim and gain power Sindhis were completely sidelined, and dwarfed