Not just giving respect, but proportionately recognising and elevating their contributions to Indian independence, especially because Gandhian non-violence has been proved an ineffective tool against colonialism.
There is a need to systematically downgrade the concept of ONE father of the nation by using a newer concept like "Founding fathers of Independent India" in every textbook and quiz and monuments. We need to give everyone their due recognition - Netaji, Lokmanya, Sardar Patel, Gandhiji, Dadabhai, Lalaji, Pal, Savarkar, C. Rajagopalachari, Bismil, Asfaquallah Khan, Azad, Subramania Bharati etc etc.
History textbooks in Maharashtra had a very amazing format. It could start from anywhere in the timeline with bits and pieces from any of the below: Indus Valley, Northern Invasions and Delhi Sultanate, Mughals, Marathas, Medieval Europe, European Renaissance, French Revolution, American Revolutions, World Wars, Russian Revolution - but somewhere in between it used to come down to the British in India and end ceremoniously on 15th August 1947. The only two Portuguese nationals whose names ever featured were Vasco Da Gama and Alphonso Albuquerque. 19th December 1961 has not even a passing mention. French colonies never featured. As for Gandhi, we actually learned how Gandhi struggled to starch his collar as a lawyer or his appendix operation when imprisoned in Yerawada. That was the depth one part was in focus and others even failed to feature.
@@1949S , NO. Imagine how patchy our textbooks were... Indus Valley, Aryan Invasion (disputed), Alexander, Chandragupta Maurya, Buddha, Ashoka, Ramdevaraya of Deogiri, Krishnadevaraya of Vijaynagar, Delhi Sultanate (Lodhi alone) and Mughals from Babur, Humayun, Akbar, Shahjahan and Aurangzeb - finally culminates to Shivaji, Peshwas, British, 1857 and then Congress and its way to negotiate freedom. Pandiyan was to me the name of our driver.
The agony of most of us here is this is not taught to me in school which is a lame excuse, if you haven't' read "discovery of India" don't blame syllabus for that.
The British didn't leave because of Gandhi. They have fought two world wars and they were shedding their super power status and their economy was going down. That's why they left India and not because they feared Gandhi's non violence. There were more freedom fighters who have done so much for our independence more than Gandhi but those people's struggles didn't come to limelight especially in the South.
@@avatharamveeraraghavan3001 lol. what a fallicious argument brother. if that was the case as you propagate, Britisher would have stayed for another 50 years just to settle down thier economic losses and expolit india further. India was seen as a " Golden Bird" why leave a source of income when you are volatile? speak sense brother
@@Lo.GaN007 I am not. If you speak sense, then why Gandhi made Nehru as the PM instead of Sir.CVR? Sir CVR was leading in the race and Gandhi went and pleaded with him to withdraw his candidature. We all know how womanizer nehru is.
If Gandhi was a real freedom fighter, he would have saved Bhagath Singh, He would have saved Subhash Chandra Bose, He would made Sardar Patel as PM, He wouldn't have stopped the movements in a peak stage, he wouldn't have raised the Khalifa movement instead of Jaliyanwala bagh destruction, he wouldn't have supported britishers with non violence movement against the dangerous destructors. He always said he prayed the Ram and Geetha, but they never said about non violence against Adharma. But he adopted that unsuitable system to save the lives... whose lives.... Britishers or Indians? We never understand our disguised indian history
Whatever our freedom fighters and rashtrapita did if Randeep had done iota of it then I can understand he is right. When yu aren't capable of making a change then pls. don't point fingers on others. And it's a shame to say things against dead ppl.? Most shameful politics Politics on Dead ppl"
Unfortunately the history that we read during our childhood was twisted in so many ways. ..but thanks to social awareness we now know what was missing. We were ignorant about so many things.
You only. know events but you don't know the context & the big picture & where Gandhi Ji was coming from, why he did what he did, so doesn't Dr.Sampath, who is clearly sitting in judgement & a poor one at that. Regardless Gandhi Ji was the most respected Indian - not just within India but also by the British & the world. No other freedom fighter had a seat at the table except Gandhi Ji - now that is telling something & it's sad that Dr.Sampath & his friends aren't reading anything into it & are taking that respect for granted.
@@funtioz123 certainly if you’re a negative person & a pessimist. Cup half full means they respected him. But honestly, we ourselves would invite & talk only to people with whom we can speak & connect & have a cogent conversation, not with someone whom we’re uncomfortable with, don’t you think?
Liked the balanced approach. We dont need history served straight from the kitchen sizzling with personal biases and passions but we need it to be served cold to be chewed and relished without prejudice.
@@sudeshnam1672by that logic google,youtube and microsoft CEOs should not be called as indian origin because they're living and earning from abroad
@@sudeshnam1672 mmm what? Your counter was pretty good ngl but that doesn't explain why you think gandhiji shouldn't be respected. You seem alot more educated than most andhbakts but i would like to know why you don't like gandhi. Is it because of his connections with congress(the party bjp supporters hate), because of godi media or because of whatsapp university?
@@throwingcrabs Because he dint stand for true freedom fighters and he always gave the British a decision front which is not the reason they backed off... If walking on the road with a bunch of followers would have sought freedom... Trust me we wouldn't be so proud... Anyways, between 1945 to 1951 all colonies were free... So he did basically a PR stunt for the British... And was instrumental in actioning the partition... They were a bunch of mean political individuals... who did the religion stuff... ( Currently our country is also going thru the same wave , big diary producing states , I guess have politicians who keep the cows in their house post milking age) , and make dramas on who would eat what ... While big names from same state are washing out entire bank and economy and sitting in other countries...
Subash Bose, Vallabhai Patel, Bhagat singh, Savarkar, BG thilak and many more vigorous freedom fighters were thrown in dark just to put Gandhi in light. All the baddest sufferings faced by the huge patriots were buried and all the credits were just given to some one who specifically put all our common man into intolerable sufferings n name of movement.
Post 1947, when Mr Atlee, ex- PM of British India was asked as to how much was the impact of Gandhi 's struggle on the British. Mr Atlee spelt it out, ' m I n I m a l'
There is a need to systematically downgrade the concept of ONE father of the nation by using a newer concept like "Founding fathers of Independent India" in every textbook and quiz and monuments. We need to give everyone their due recognition - Netaji, Lokmanya, Sardar Patel, Gandhiji, Dadabhai, Lalaji, Pal, Savarkar, C. Rajagopalachari, Bismil, Asfaquallah Khan, Azad, Subramania Bharati etc etc.
@@nikhilvijay6022 I had to resort an objective generated answer instead of trying to do it myself, so here you go. The Indian National Army (INA) led by Subhas Chandra Bose and the disobedience by some British Indian army units did play a significant role in weakening the British colonial grip on India. The INA's efforts and the loyalty of some Indian troops to the British Crown were wavering, which created concerns for the British. Additionally, the economic costs of maintaining the colonial empire, combined with the devastation of World War II, made it difficult for the British to sustain their rule over India. The estimated £45 trillion extracted from India during the colonial era is a staggering figure, and it's true that the British didn't leave many other colonies voluntarily. The British departure from India was likely hastened by a combination of factors, including: 1. _Rising nationalism and resistance_ 2. _Economic constraints_ 3. _International pressure_ (e.g., from the United States) 4. _Military fatigue_ (after World War II) While it's impossible to know for certain, it's possible that without the INA's efforts and the disobedience by some British Indian army units, the British might have tried to maintain their control over India for a longer period. However, the winds of change were already blowing, and the British colonial empire was likely unsustainable in the long term.
@@nikhilvijay6022 The Indian independence movement led by Mahatma Gandhi is one of the only prominent and successful examples of nonviolent resistance leading to the end of colonial extractive rule. However, it is relatively unique in its scale and success. Nonviolent movements have played important roles in various struggles for independence or civil rights, but the direct removal of a colonial power that had extracted such vast resources is rare. Most other examples of decolonization involved some level of armed resistance or geopolitical shifts 🤦♂️ Some more?? The idea that the contributions of Mahatma Gandhi to Indian independence may have been emphasized or "over-inflated" by political forces, particularly those associated with the Nehru-Gandhi family, is a perspective held by some historians and political commentators. This viewpoint suggests that the narrative of Gandhi as the central figure in India's independence struggle has been reinforced and perpetuated by the political parties and governments that have been closely linked to his legacy, particularly the Indian National Congress, which was led by members of the Gandhi-Nehru family for much of India's post-independence history.1. The Role of the Nehru-Gandhi FamilyPolitical Legacy: The Nehru-Gandhi family, beginning with Jawaharlal Nehru (India’s first Prime Minister and a close associate of Gandhi), has played a dominant role in Indian politics. Nehru, followed by his daughter Indira Gandhi, his grandson Rajiv Gandhi, and later other family members, led the Indian National Congress for many decades.Narrative Control: As leaders of the ruling party for much of India's post-independence history, they had significant influence over the national narrative and historical interpretation of the freedom struggle. It is plausible that the Gandhi-Nehru family would emphasize Gandhi’s contributions as a way of legitimizing their own political authority and linking their governance to the revered figure of Gandhi.2. Gandhi’s Influence and LegacyIconic Status: Gandhi’s philosophy of nonviolence and civil disobedience became iconic not only in India but globally. His methods inspired other movements around the world, and his image as the "Father of the Nation" in India has been deeply ingrained in the national consciousness.Educational and Cultural Reinforcement: Gandhi’s role in the independence movement is a central part of Indian education and cultural discourse. His life and philosophy are taught extensively in schools, celebrated in films, literature, and commemorated through various national symbols (like currency and national holidays).3. Underscoring Other ContributionsSubhas Chandra Bose and Others: Critics argue that the contributions of other key figures, like Subhas Chandra Bose, Bhagat Singh, and numerous other freedom fighters, have not been given the same level of recognition. Bose’s armed struggle and the fear it instilled in the British administration are seen by some as equally or even more critical to India’s eventual independence.Regional Movements: Additionally, regional movements and leaders who played significant roles in the independence struggle might not have received as much attention in the national narrative, which has often been dominated by the Gandhi-Nehru axis.4. The Rarity of Nonviolent SuccessUnique Case of India: The success of nonviolent resistance in achieving Indian independence is indeed a rare phenomenon in world history. This rarity makes it a compelling narrative, one that has been celebrated and perhaps magnified because of its unique nature. Gandhi’s nonviolent approach, contrasting with the often violent and tumultuous decolonization processes elsewhere, adds to his mythos.Post-Colonial Narrative: In the post-colonial period, many newly independent nations sought symbols of moral leadership and legitimacy. Gandhi’s philosophy provided a powerful, positive image of the anti-colonial struggle, which may have contributed to the emphasis on his role.5. Political UtilitySymbol of Unity and Moral Authority: Gandhi has been used as a symbol of unity and moral authority, particularly in times of political crisis or when seeking to appeal to broad, diverse constituencies. The Congress party and other political groups have invoked Gandhi’s legacy to align themselves with these values.Political Narrative: In a democracy, political narratives are often shaped to align with the values and symbols that resonate most with the public. Gandhi’s image as the leading figure of the independence movement is one such narrative that has been cultivated over time, possibly at the expense of other contributors to India’s freedom. Satyameva Jayatey, Jai Bharatham
@@TeluguPie GANDHI idea of non-violence was for only hindus he never said muslim to stop violence, example read comments of ambedkar on gamdhi after moplah massacre
It was India's bad luck that we had Gandhi leading the freedom movement. Where in the world people have got their freedom without bloodshed? It was never going to happen in India. The main reason behind British leaving was the revolt in Indian armed forces and Netaji Subhash Chandra Bose's INA.
GHANDI MADE MUSTAKES BUT DID 100 RIGHT THINGS . YOU GAVE DISSCUSSED THIS NOW I THINK THIS CHANELL IS PAID 🟥 . NO WAY TRYING TO SAY GODSE IS BETTER THAN GHANDI . SUCH FOOLISHNESS . GHANDI DID MISTAKE BUT IF GHANDI WAS NOT THERE INDIA WOULD NEVER GET A FREEDOM 🟥🟥🟥
@@rogger972 yes someone else must have spearheaded the freedom movement. Not this man definitely. He served in South Africa in British army as a ambulancedriver, he could have been made a secret agent. The British are very good in maintaining secrecy and deceit.
The fact that Gandhi Ji was at the forefront of the fight & his values & words prevailed most with the Indians, the British & the world proves his leadership skill of bringing peace together. This leading that you mention doesn’t happen by chance but by choice & so Gandhi Ji was the first among equals. Only a good person can be at the helm & not someone who revolts or fights or screams. Let’s be honest, every Indian wanted an independent India & the others had an equal opportunity but couldn’t create a consensus either within or with the opposition. Gandhi Ji had a seat at the table only because he chose ahimsa & non violence. Now even the British would’ve shunned him had he told them that I’m going to kill generals & revolts in your army. Now what was the smartest thing to do - Gandhi Ji’s methods & his path , he was phenomenal & that can never be understood by Dr.Sampath
Gandi nahi, chucha nehru was kejriwal of that time. Kejru used anna hazare and threw him, chucha also used gandi and had made his mind to throw moulanda gandi at sone point.
@@war0nstupidity767 Gandhi did nothing apart from brushing shoulders of British with useless non violence stuff. Whereas Subhash Chandra Bose ignited the minds of Hindustan to fight for freedom. If Gandhi did not exist, we would have got the freedom long back.
@@ZaidKhan-su3ey Veer Savarkar was given capital punishment by British government. He wanted to save his life and wanted to unite Indians against the Britishers, he apologized to come out of Andaman cellular Jail. If Veer Savarkar would have been loyal to Britishers, he would have got cell with fans, beds, attached toilet and other amenities which the so called other freedom fighters got.
@@ZaidKhan-su3ey 😂😂. Akalmand. If non violent movrments like satyagraha was effective, then why was Dandi March and quit India movement unsuccessful in getting the independence.
Gandhi made all Indians look like impotent and non violent slaves through his submissivenes. He did create a much needed awareness for freedom... but his methods were useless.
Gandhi after reading the biography of the Prophet Muhammad (P.B.U.H.*): "What a wonderful life story, after finishing the second volume, I find myself wishing there was more." Explains a lot! *Police Be Upon Him
😂 Was it mentioned anywhere that Prophet M*hammed (Poop Be Upon Them) didn't know how to read or write? 😂 It's funny we are READING his biography 😂 I am sure your comment will get deleted soon, I just saw a comment on G*dse getting deleted 🤦♂️
GHANDI MADE MiSTAKES BUT DID 100 RIGHT THINGS . YOU DISSCUSSED THIS in chanell .NOW I THINK THIS CHANELL IS PAID 🟥 . NO WAY TRYING TO SAY GODSE IS BETTER THAN GHANDI . SUCH FOOLISHNESS . GHANDI DID MISTAKE BUT IF GHANDI WAS NOT THERE INDIA WOULD NEVER GET A FREEDOM 🟥🟥🟥
Ranveer.. if you liked the Legend of Shaheef Bhagat Singh, then you must watch "SHAHEED" by Shri Manoj Kumar Ji.. that level of passion towards our Respected Martyrs 🙏🙏💐💐🙏🙏🕉🕉 can be felt in depth more, in that one. Gandhi was a two edged sword for INDIA 🇮🇳
@@RAHULSEN-og6mcThe present leadership never called themselves saints… Amit Shah himself admits he is a politician.. They are not hypocrites like the liberals are
Gandhi did nothing but slowed the INDIA's war for Independence. And was responsible for the death and massacre of more than million people. And if your hate what I'm saying here, let me add more spice in it - "Amar Balidani Pandit, Shri Nathuram Godse Ji" sada amar rahe.
GHANDI MADE MiSTAKES BUT DID 100 RIGHT THINGS . YOU DISSCUSSED THIS in chanell .NOW I THINK THIS CHANELL IS PAID 🟥 . NO WAY TRYING TO SAY GODSE IS BETTER THAN GHANDI . SUCH FOOLISHNESS . GHANDI DID MISTAKE BUT IF GHANDI WAS NOT THERE INDIA WOULD NEVER GET A FREEDOM 🟥🟥🟥
It is your freedom of speech to glorify a bloody murderer and demean a man who did a lot for the country, be it good or bad. As they say, "I may not like what you say but I'll defend to death your right to say it." You're thinking you'll rile up libs but I'm sorry to say your attempt has failed.
Take out 1-2 years from Savarkar's life. Then Savarkar becomes the greatest British agent and chief architect of the partition. And Bose called Gandhi `Father of the nation'. He is fool---you or Bose?
How can you call a person Bhakt just because they are opposing or not fond of someone you worship? The kind of 'spiritual' and so called experiment he did with those girls, who were teenagers and didn't know what was going on----only a monster can do that.
@@krishnabhojne their prophet was a pedophile and the justification they give, he was told by allah to f@@k a 9 yr old and that was the only way to pass on the message. hilarious. he cud have adopted her. nupur sharma opened the pandora's box
Unlike that Chavda, this guy has actually read history, he is actually talking rationally, I wish to give him all my support on this particular topic. Though I would like to add that Gandhi only merged the Khilafat and Non-Cooperation movement because they thought that it would unite Hindus and Muslims, though it backfired a little. I thought I would never say this for someone in Ranveer's Podcast, but I would like to hear more of his thoughts as he seems like someone who would love to hear his opposition out, and someone who knows what they are talking about. Glad I stumbled upon him 😊😊😊😊😊
@@pmm6856 are you Khangress NCERT and reading books, that is your mindset. Why INDIRA gandhi was behind to kill Subhash Chandra Bose. ?? ask this question also . Read history and let me give you some gyan ead the statement given by Clement Attlee. The Governor of West Bengal Justice PB Chakraborthy in 1956, Clement Attlee had come to India and stayed in Kolkata as a guest of the then governor. And if you read History Mr. then you must be knowing that Clement Richard Attlee was the man, who as leader of the Labour Party and British Prime Minister between 1945 and 1951, signed off on the decision to grant Independence to India.And upon question asked why Britisher left in very diplomatic way, answer was the Subhash Chandra Bose and its army and revolt in British army. Gandhi have non influence though on secret dealing with Gandhi, in book he was made hero!!!
Wonderful Ranveer - not only for getting a brilliant mind like Vikram Sampat on the show but to extract such a dense historical nugget in 20 mins flat. Vikram just explained the entire hot mess of India's intellectual thought - past, present and future - as if we were eating a choco chip cookie 🙂
Excellent presentation of facts about Gandhi. Hats off to your daredevil revelations . Entire sanatanis should know the blunders commited by Nehru and Gandhi during Congress rule. Can any Congress fellow has the guts to counter him on facts? Bharat Mata ki Jai.
Very smartly vikram tries to downplay the significance of Quit India movement. Viceroy Linlithgow described the movement as "by far the most serious rebellion since 1857". FD Roosevelt noticed the movement and started to pressurize Britain to give in to Indian demands. Hence after the war, the British knew that they can't stay any longer in India
The irony of this nation lies in the imposition of one man as the "Chacha" (uncle) of the entire nation, while another is thrusted on Indians as the "Baapu" (father) of the nation.
@@whysoserious1457 No he and Nehru not even uttered a single word against it. Because at the time Bagthsingh had became one of the most popular freedom fighter at that time which made a great negative impact on Nehrus growth.
@@Tejas-ny2ud he didn't nehru insisted not to. Not only that if gandhi was a man of non violence then y he supported illegal recruitment of indian men to british army to fought ww.
@@Tejas-ny2ud tell me why he was serving the British army in the boar war in South Africa? His non violence was only for the Indians, he had nothing to do with freedom, he was just experimenting with the Indian people.
He was not Sanghi. He lshafaqullah Baghat Singh were Leftists. Patel was aCongrssi. Why r u steeling Heros. U were r always collobraters. Mukutji was against Quite India Movement.
Sardar Patel , Subhash Bose , Bhagat Singh all of them used to refer Gandhi as Mahatma, except ambedkar every major personality of Gandhi's time praised Gandhi a lot
@@raunakmalviya3175 did you know gandhi was a pedophile who used to sleep nude with small kids ? He was a racist who called blacks Africans as animals ? Did you you he was a castiest? Did you know he asked hindu women to bot rebel agnist muslim men even if they get raped ? Did you know gandhi advised Jews of germany to accept death with glory but not to rebel agnist Hitler? Defend this
When I was school, I had a lesson in history book that was on US freedom fight which they won by taking arms against invaders. I always had a question in mind, why couldn't India get the freedom the same way as it would have helped us to get freedom atleast 50 years in advance. Now I know the reason, thanks to Mr.Gandhi
British had much superior military and India not only lacked organised military but also nationalistic spirit. Gandhi wanted to awaken the nationalism among Indians by taking numerous padayatra. He went beyond caste, religion to foster unity to throw the British out. There are always good and bad about every human, Gandhi was unnecessary drawn into this, he didn't ask for position nor any other benefits post independence. His one agenda was to make the Indians to stay united. British ruled for nearly 200 years which means we failed innumerable times to send them out. Gandhi just used a strategy that worked. Don't get carried away by such shallow debates. Jai Hind!
anandmanvi1532 You have come under Sanghi trap. There is a reason Gandhi was called Mahatma and it will remain. Only for ping you can deny the truth. It will resurface again. This talk is not about vilifying Gandhi but about making sure other freedom strugglers are given their due and not forgotten
Maturity is when you realise that we have been fooled all thru our childhood in the name of Bapu got us freedom and the epitome of his so called ‘Non-Violence’ movement.
There was one more reason for Indian independence in 1947. America did press the British to let India go. Of course, USA was not totally altruist ; they expected India to form a close association with the west.
Unfortunately Gandhi and Nehru are the darkest part of the Indian freedom struggle which is overrated and over celebrated. Both Gandhi and Nehru had done more harm to India's strategic, religious, and cultural fabric instead of benefitting.
@@Tejas-ny2ud Are you serious, is this a valid argument. Just because you have a charismatic personality and big name in the politics, you don't get a right to jeopardize your national, cultural and strategic interest. If you are at some important position you should work in the national interest for the greater good of your nation.
He Was On The Mark What He Said . During Even School Time When I Used To Study Such Movements, I Used To Question Them . Also People Used To Rage Against Gandhi Back Then Too , Now It Has Increased. Here When He Said In The Last Is TRUE In My Views Too & There Are More Things Too ..
Though he has a balanced view, all the discussion leads to one conclusion, Gandhi in beds with British. Sorry unable to see how his movements are aligned in the interests of Bharath
There are some pointss here that need more support and clarity from Mr. Sampat. When exactly did Gandhi actually promise that he would restore the caliph in Turkey? He only offered to support that movement, not that he could or would restore the caliph since obviously he had no control over the Brits. It was actually a brilliant move to bring Muslims and Hindus together in the context of British politics and the islamist influence. 2. The quit India movement had some very clear demands including purna swaraj and the creation of a provisional government. It's very easy to blame and nitpick Gandhis choices in hindsight, and obviously he made mistakes, but there is zero doubt that there was no other leader who could get the support that he could from Indian people. The revolutionary movement, as bold as it was, was doomed to failure. The only hope somewhat was Bose but he didn't really provide any alternatives. The idea of aligning with the Nazis or imperial Japan was insane and God forbid if these were to have come to fruition Indias suffering would've been unthinkable. One look at what Japan did in China or with Indian pows should make this clear.
V. O. Chidambaram PILLAI had a long correspondence with Gandhi, not yet Mahatma, from 1915 to 1920. In 1915, when Gandhi visited Chennai (Madras then), both had met. Some people in South Africa of Indian origin had collected money to help Chidambaram and transmitted the amount through Gandhi. However, Chidambaram did not receive the money. He had some lengthy correspondence with Gandhi on the subject. In one instance Gandhi wrote a postcard to Chidambaram in Tamil with his own hand. Chidambaram was delighted on seeing the postcard and, for a moment, forgot about the money dispute.[11] However, on 4 February 1916, Chidamabaram wrote to a friend, "Rs. 347-12-0 has come from Sriman Gandhi."[11] In 1920, Chidambaram quit the Indian National Congress, citing ideological differences with Mahatma Gandhi.
VOC was a true patriot, born free, totally committed, without looking for adoration, but geographically confined to the south . He cannot be compared with MG who was a kind of "politico" freedom fighter, with a larger reach, full of self-importance, even undharmically supporting Khalat movement. This is not to devalue MG contribution, on his own and as a part so many freedom fighters. Honestly, with or without Gandhi, India would have achieved independence, and yet Gandhi deserves our respect for his contribution. Time and destiny favoured Gandhi.
Albert Einstein the greatest scientific genius of the millennium wrote this : “I believe that Gandhi's views were the most enlightened of all the political men of our time. We should strive to do things in his spirit: not to use violence in fighting for our cause, but by non-participation in anything you believe is evil." Romain To Roland French thinker writer and musicologist was a great admirer of Gandhi, and considered him to be worthy of the title "Prince of Peace". He believed that Gandhi's philosophy was time-tested and would not change, and that he showed great belief in bringing about economic equality through non-violence. Roland wrote "He is the One Luminous, Creator of All, Mahatma, Always in the hearts of the people enshrined, Revealed through Love, Intuition, and Thought, Whoever knows Him, Immortal becomes.."
MG was definitely not in our Nation to Unite and Fight for Nations Independence.He definitely Played His Own Games in the Midst of Fightin 4 Freedom and that's Psychologically Criminal ,Tricking and Cheating Innocent ppl at that Time.Unforgivable.He was in it for His Own GamePlayin.Some So Called Greats find Joy in that kinda Games.😏😏😏
Of course, there are many factors that contributed to the success of the freedom movement. There is no doubt that Gandhi's struggle for freedom was strengthened by them. However, the uniqueness of Gandhi's movement was 'non-violence'. For the first time in history it a great power was brought to its knees not by a violent uprising, but by non-violent resistance and with love, not hate at its heart. That is the uniqueness of India finally winning freedom, even if one argues that previous movements like the 1857 first war of independence might have sent a message to the British that they could not take their occupation for granted.
My grandfather belonged to pre-independent India; served in the Army; worshipped Bose. But his background is orthodox TN brahmin. The brahmin could no longer practice their profession; and so they went searching for alternative professions. The jobs as an army soldier or as clerks or (if affluent, then) as lawyers were enough run a family. Being a brahmin, important part of orthodoxy included procreation - which eventually meant running a household. So- once the world war was done; and independence was near- he quit army; and for as long as I remembered, I have seen him go back to traditional brahmin ways of living- performing his nitya karma-s 3 times a day.
Brahmins are not tamils don't confuse urself and dont compare us tamils with those disgusting brahmins who divided my people which we are still fighting.
Gandhi was suddenly thrust upon India that is Bharat, from where did he come, from the Boer war, where in south Africa he fought for the British, was he planted to become a hero of the freedom struggle in India, where by the support of British, he rose, totally orchestrated by the British?
He is not the great man we wanted, he was an above average leader. Not a national hero, many regional heroes of the time ignored deliberately by congress party. Made bigger concessions to the British than others would, he was trapped by his own image of peace icon. He deserves a respectability like others not above the others. Was Indian at heart, his British friends too were pro India than pro british.
One should be careful enough while choosing words to describe monumental personalities like Gandhi. Hero or a secret villain is really very derogatory remark. And one section of political class for its vested interest is targeting Gandhi. A juxtaposition of the way of life gandhi spent and leaders of this so-called political class will give us clarity. A man who spent his life wearing a 2 piece khadi attire for the whole of his life and on the other side the ones wearing an attire of lakhs of rupees each day. Every body of that period played their role for independence. The problem comes with a selective approach of redefining the roles based on one's current days affinity. And don't forget that they are representing the leaders who wrote the British pages of letter hinting how the British cab curb Quit India movement. History registers everything whether we like it or not. End of any criticism should have a constructive benefit to the society at large. These critics underestimate the memory and understanding of viewers.
While disagree with your standpoint on Vikram Sampaths work and research, I agree that we should not approach History from the lens of our personal political inclination.
did you know gandhi was a pedophile who used to sleep nude with small kids ? He was a racist who called blacks Africans as animals ? Did you you he was a castiest? Did you know he asked hindu women to bot rebel agnist muslim men even if they get raped ? Did you know gandhi advised Jews of germany to accept death with glory but not to rebel agnist Hitler? Defend this
Even being a centrist you will come to conslusion that Gandhi was a toxic politician who caused more harm than good to India. A pasifict who delayed India independance and subdued actual freedom fighters like Bose, Savarkar and Patel. 😢😢
I think we should be more forthright about Gandhi's negative role in India's independence esp., with his relationship with two great patriots - Amhedkar & Savarkar whom he diabolically opposed. I like this show of Ranveer but two requests : pl do not do Bharatanatyam with hand play & tone down your false convent accent.
No one has ever told that Gandhi is the only person behind the freedom... We all were taught that 1857 Sipahi bidraha was the 1st freedom movement. Now we are using our freedom fighters to propagate our own agendas.
@@DipakBose-bq1vv I have done a lot of reading as well Sir! I strongly agree with you.👍 Ambedkar was smart and well read person. The more you read about him, you will realize at what extent one can stoop. We all are sitting on a time b*mb of Dalit-Savarn war, skillfully orchestrated by him.🤦♂️ Imagine👉 Can India forever go on like this? Does any party has guts to remove what he created for only 10 years limit? From example of Manipur, can you imagine what can happen if that is to be removed across India? Have you ever interacted with Mulnivaasi NeoBuddhists? 😅
@@MrRaghavann All the traitor have to act centrists.. They can't go on and boast about their 👉real intentions👈 as I mentioned in above comment, Ambedkar was Columbia Graduate, very skilled and well read. He was definately more educated than any other of that era 🎯 👉 Let me give you one beautiful example: In his Book, "Who are Shudras" page 68-69 he debunked the theory of "Aryan Invasion" with presenting available studies. But not a single word on why it was brought(devide & rule), by whom it was brought(his british master), when it was brought(early 1800s after they devided us in cast), what harm it caused(just google Mulnivaasi, they still exist). No sir..! 👉He wrote countless articles in Marathi opposing freedom and asked Dalits to not participate as well.👈
Stop this conspiracy theories 1) Read ambedkars views on islam 2) Read why he chose buddhism instead of islam or christianity. Because he believed all Indians must have a common history ( buddhism is very much like hinduism) 3) Reservation was only for 10 years but it is congress and now bjp who keep it alive 4) Think is caste system really invisible from society?
Sorry to Say...can Anyone Give Me One Good Facts about Gandhi,s Contribution for the Independence of this Country ... Can Any One Explain Me the Perfect Reason...Why Annie Basant was Sidelined in the Congress Party after Her Tremendous Reaction against Gandhi,s Statement during 1920 in the Party...why every Single Individuals were Purposely sidelined in the Congress Party those who... Opposed Gandhi,s Shakehand policies with the British Govt...I am coming from a Family 2 of My family members have spent more than 10 years each in the Prison of Cellular Jail...My family members were purposely murdered during the Riots of 1946 in Kolkata...what Gandhi did to the Person...Surabhuddin...who was Solely responsible for the Riots of Kolkata...any one can counter my statement...i have plenty more to say but no use...
It is easy to interpret history from today. And also easy to comment on historical personalities out of present days perspective. I advise the critics of Gandhi to live like him just for one day.
Come out of your make belive world britain was a imperialist Empire any sane person knows such a Empire would never go by itself without violence we took independence on their behest we got partitioned into two nations
@@deepgoradia4369 i did not say only non violent movement was sole reason for the British to leave India. There were many reasons. And all those reasons need to be necessarily from Indian point of view. They have their own reasons also. But now why do we either attribute the whole credit to.our favourite section of free dom fighters by marginalising and resorting to character assassination of other freedom fighters. It is not worth doing. Britishers left us but we are still hanging around...
@@Rudravakku they are not marganilizing or demoralizing gandhis action they are just critically evaluating gandhi and when you do that you look both sides gandhis ideology was a very pacifist one due to congress ecosystem people who criticize gandhi are looked as if he is some sort of godse bhakt only after 2014 we can discuss such topics openly
Gandhi was yesterday's Arvind Kejriwal. The amount of money it cost to show gandhi as a poor fakir, is like the amount that AAP spends to show Kansiwal as something he is not, an incorruptible simple honest man.
There were thousands of Freedom Fighters who sacrificed their lives for the Freedom but were just neglected just to bring Gandhi- Nehru duo in the limelight. Gandhi entered India during the second decade of the twentieth century and Hundreds of Freedom Fighters had lost their lives for the country. According to me the work and the Sacrifice of Veer Savarkar and his Family was incomparable and Gandhi is not even one tenth of this great hero. Subhash Chandra Bose was the main hero of the Freedom. The sacrifice of the young leaders like Babu Genu, Bhagat singh, Sukhdev etc has no comparison to this man who tried to get himself focused at the dawn of his age.
Can you tell me what contribution of VD Savarkar AFTER he got out of Kala pani in 1924? What revolutionary activity he undertook? Did he get jailed thereafter?
Gandhi did the task of uniting Indians despite of different states, religions or castes. everyone stood on same platform during his movement, that's what he did for India. Created India out of various states.
If Gandhi gets rebirth in Bharath now, they must be kept in Andaman jail, for which he killed many innocent Hindus killed during partition period by cruel Muslims of East & west Pakisthan. Gandhi & cunning Nehru was responsible .
Tatas, Gandhi and Nehru all were educated in UK. And it should not surprise us why Indians were fighting from other side. Don't we see it even today - we still have more threat from inside vs outside (or our people lack national identity and eager to pick other cause for perks or money).
Hello Ranveer bro 👋, you are doing a brilliant job bringing Indian historians on the show talking about partition like we never knew!!. Watching from 🇵🇰 much love and hugs to you brother. But I request you to please bring the Pakistani perspective on partition as well.
Respect to Vikram for telling the truth/facts without fear of being targeted by congis and in the end giving credit to Ghandhi in the end with his comment.
did you know gandhi was a pedophile who used to sleep nude with small kids ? He was a racist who called blacks Africans as animals ? Did you you he was a castiest? Did you know he asked hindu women to bot rebel agnist muslim men even if they get raped ? Did you know gandhi advised Jews of germany to accept death with glory but not to rebel agnist Hitler? Defend this
Agenda is something that holds bragging without facts and truth. For the past 70 years many Indian generations were the victims of falsified educational agenda projected with vested interests and malicious intentions. Today actually in this digital age we are realizing the blunders of education by the past ruling Governments.
we are re-examining the role of Sri M.K. Gandhi as an Indian and re-evaluating him. I entirely agree with Sampath about the Quit India movement. It was a non-starter. I was a school boy then.
Very smartly vikram tries to downplay the significance of Quit India movement. Viceroy Linlithgow described the movement as "by far the most serious rebellion since 1857". FD Roosevelt noticed the movement and started to pressurize Britain to give in to Indian demands. Hence after the war, the British knew that they can't stay any longer in India
After india getting independence, Now ranveer is demeaning Mahatma Gandhi and his contribution to India's independence...gandhi ignited the fire of freedom. And first step towards anything is always the important one
@@akshaybengaluru according to you brother, every non violent thing is ineffective?.. and impact can only be seen if someone use violence?.. I personally found this logic very bullshit😂
@@akshaybengaluru Two right and intelligent people can have different opinions on different things brother. And both can be right at the same time. We should not demean any freedom fighter that's what I am saying. After so many years, we who have hardly contributed to our society and its well being, we do not have any right to blame, demean India's freedom fighters.
@@techtemple1 we are not demeaning anyone. But Gandhi's contribution for independence was minimal on Britishers quitting India, that's what we meant to say.
if Gandhi was so great, how is it that he never got beaten up , arrested, even insulted while others where killed on sight. Why did Gandhi leave South Africa, how did Bhagat Singh (one of his greatest followers) start to hate him, why was Bhagat Singh hung a day earlier than scheduled after Gandhi visited the jail... i love Bharat, we should simply imagine why Gandhi is on all our bills, several roads around the planet, everyone knows him, his legacy is Nehru, Jinnah, Indira, Rajiv, Sonia, Rahul, Priyanka..... shame on us if we don't even have the balls to stand up for the people who died for us,
Very nice explained by Vikram Sampath ji...his summary at the end was really great. We need more people like him with rational minds.May God bless him!
Gandhi wasn't Villain he was traitor,.planted & nurtured by Britishers throughout his life. In return he minimised the harm on Empire while diverting the focus of freedom movement that too during a crucial time period when Britishers couldn't afford a violent war in India as they were already busy in Europe.
"Gandhi contributed greatly in independence" is a diplomatic lie. By saying this one will not face any criticism. The fact is he was actually a stumbling block in independence journey.
I am a proud Sanghi or Bhakt. Gandhi did more harm than good by foisting Jawaharlal against democratically elected Sardar Patel.His hate of Hindus started since his landing in Bharat fromSuth Africa.
So ye video banane ke liye kisne kisko fees diya hoga? Vikram Sampad ne TRS ko for uska dukan chalane ke liye ya Vice varsa for their youtube views.. 😂 kahan se ajate hain ye story teller historians kuchh bhi khayali pulav pelne ke liye… aur ye bacha baithke stories sunta aur sunata rehta hai and views bator raha hai….
@@SamirDas-qq7ft dimaag tez toh h hi nhi. Ye Gobar aur gaumutra k shake pine walo k liye bas Angreezi mein kuch bhi boldo..inhe chlega. Colonial metantality complex gya nhi. Gandhi failed here.
@@hacker7909 exactly. Aise agar koi bhi kuchh bhi history pelne lage to phir kya har 10yrs mein history ki kitab chng karoge. I m not saying what we studied were also 100% correct but how does it matter. Jo sabne padha hai usi ko consistent rehne do. History change karke kya ukhad lenge, ukhadna hi hai to cureent ko chang karke future ko bright karo na
MKG The Incomplete Man... was responsible for Bharat's partition on religious grounds. We would had got Independence even without MKG because after WWII the British Empire was broke and US had taken over as superpower. For UK we Bharat would had been like a White Elephant since they had already looted us of all our wealth and nothing was left back in Bharat to loot any further. I salute Godse for his actions because anti-nationals must be stopped at any cost.... Nation First. Akanda Bharat. Jai Hind 🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳
LOL, Gandhi never agreed to partition, it was Patel and Nehru who agreed to it and hence CWC voted for the proposal in june 1947. Read history, Patel was most active supporter of partition by december 1946. He gave a speech on 3 june 1947 where he said that partition is inevitable. I can share you evidences and proofs if you want.
These days no one actually likes Gandhi. Muslims never respected him that's why 90% voted for pakistan. Hindus also hate him now for siding with muslims and making hindus scapegoat. Dalits hate him because of disgreements with ambedkar. He used to do passive aggressive anshan. And now liberals are also disliking Gandhi. I am atheist too, Gandhi do not deserve this much hate but he didn't deserve this much praise to begin with. I never liked this rastrapita BS. Non violence is most low iq move I have seen in history as if non violence work 😂
Bhagat Singh my hero 🇮🇳.
I have a lot of respect for Subhash Chandra Bose, Vinayak Damodar Savarkar, Chandrasekhar Azad, and many more.
Alot of respect for modi too who gave us indipendence in 2014 right? Uneducated brainwashed indian youths
How can u put Bhagat Singh n savarkar in one platform....utter disgusting
Why??? What's your problem??? They are our freedom fighters na🙏🏼 @@titlychatterjee3378
Savarkar wrote mercy petitions to the British and did not participate in the freedom movement. Please check the history.
Who wrote this history? Why Gandhi did not go on his favourite game of satyagraha to stop hanging of Bhagat Singh?
Subhash Chandra Bose my hero 🇮🇳
Mind Begs the Question:
If an organization Governing a Nation
Against Freedom Fighters principles
Idolizing Hitler
Patriots,Fascists?
❤ Yes
supporter of imperial japan
And Hitler too
@@vishnushenoy8032 supporter of Azad Hind and went to all lengths to gain freedom!
I agree with Vikram Sampath. Its not about demeaning Mahatma Gandhi but it is to give respect to each freedom fighter.
Not just giving respect, but proportionately recognising and elevating their contributions to Indian independence, especially because Gandhian non-violence has been proved an ineffective tool against colonialism.
There is a need to systematically downgrade the concept of ONE father of the nation by using a newer concept like "Founding fathers of Independent India" in every textbook and quiz and monuments. We need to give everyone their due recognition - Netaji, Lokmanya, Sardar Patel, Gandhiji, Dadabhai, Lalaji, Pal, Savarkar, C. Rajagopalachari, Bismil, Asfaquallah Khan, Azad, Subramania Bharati etc etc.
Sorry gandhi vada. He has done less usefully but more damage. He had sons but adopted a frozen guy loved by India hey waje up
@@Sririri123neta😂😂 gandi😂😂😂 rest agree
yes..
History textbooks in Maharashtra had a very amazing format. It could start from anywhere in the timeline with bits and pieces from any of the below: Indus Valley, Northern Invasions and Delhi Sultanate, Mughals, Marathas, Medieval Europe, European Renaissance, French Revolution, American Revolutions, World Wars, Russian Revolution - but somewhere in between it used to come down to the British in India and end ceremoniously on 15th August 1947.
The only two Portuguese nationals whose names ever featured were Vasco Da Gama and Alphonso Albuquerque. 19th December 1961 has not even a passing mention. French colonies never featured.
As for Gandhi, we actually learned how Gandhi struggled to starch his collar as a lawyer or his appendix operation when imprisoned in Yerawada. That was the depth one part was in focus and others even failed to feature.
Do you mean to say that there is no mention of the Sathavahana dynasty and any of the Dakshin Bharat dynasties?
@@1949S , NO. Imagine how patchy our textbooks were... Indus Valley, Aryan Invasion (disputed), Alexander, Chandragupta Maurya, Buddha, Ashoka, Ramdevaraya of Deogiri, Krishnadevaraya of Vijaynagar, Delhi Sultanate (Lodhi alone) and Mughals from Babur, Humayun, Akbar, Shahjahan and Aurangzeb - finally culminates to Shivaji, Peshwas, British, 1857 and then Congress and its way to negotiate freedom.
Pandiyan was to me the name of our driver.
Lot of Unschooling needed for Indians .
@@christopherpaul4698, I'd say it's missing the right approach and a focus on India in a holistic perspective.
The agony of most of us here is this is not taught to me in school which is a lame excuse, if you haven't' read "discovery of India" don't blame syllabus for that.
How can people believe that the British Empire trembled and left India because they were scared of Gandhi's non-violent movement.
politics of recognition. similarly how USA being at peak of its military power with nuclear capacity had to bak down from Vietnam war.
The British didn't leave because of Gandhi. They have fought two world wars and they were shedding their super power status and their economy was going down. That's why they left India and not because they feared Gandhi's non violence. There were more freedom fighters who have done so much for our independence more than Gandhi but those people's struggles didn't come to limelight especially in the South.
@@avatharamveeraraghavan3001 lol. what a fallicious argument brother. if that was the case as you propagate, Britisher would have stayed for another 50 years just to settle down thier economic losses and expolit india further. India was seen as a " Golden Bird" why leave a source of income when you are volatile? speak sense brother
@@Lo.GaN007 I am not. If you speak sense, then why Gandhi made Nehru as the PM instead of Sir.CVR? Sir CVR was leading in the race and Gandhi went and pleaded with him to withdraw his candidature. We all know how womanizer nehru is.
@@avatharamveeraraghavan3001 good education
If Gandhi was a real freedom fighter, he would have saved Bhagath Singh, He would have saved Subhash Chandra Bose, He would made Sardar Patel as PM, He wouldn't have stopped the movements in a peak stage, he wouldn't have raised the Khalifa movement instead of Jaliyanwala bagh destruction, he wouldn't have supported britishers with non violence movement against the dangerous destructors. He always said he prayed the Ram and Geetha, but they never said about non violence against Adharma. But he adopted that unsuitable system to save the lives... whose lives.... Britishers or Indians? We never understand our disguised indian history
Well Said Sir❤🎉🎉
why all these personalities need gandhi support and what did they give in return to gandhi who lived all his life in a hut
@uditsharma743 And travel in 3rd class where 2 coaches allocated to him..too...
Whatever our freedom fighters and rashtrapita did if Randeep had done iota of it then I can understand he is right. When yu aren't capable of making a change then pls. don't point fingers on others. And it's a shame to say things against dead ppl.? Most shameful politics Politics on Dead ppl"
I am stunned. This seriously needs to be taught in schools. Kudos to Vikram sir and Ranveer Team.. ❤
In you school history only 2 people fought for Independence one was Gandhi and another was Nehru
@k.a6880 Gsndhi was human if people put him on pedestal that is not his problem.He put his whole life for betterment of India.
@@rakhimukerji7937 he put his whole life for something and also put lots of hindus' lives to sword
Only Mohan das not mahatama 🙏🏻🚩
Unfortunately the history that we read during our childhood was twisted in so many ways. ..but thanks to social awareness we now know what was missing. We were ignorant about so many things.
We should not be sure even now. Only God knows what happened at that time. We can just articulate based on some data thats it.
Mind Begs the Question:
If an organization Governing a Nation
Against Freedom Fighters principles
Idolizing Hitler
Patriots,Fascists?
You only. know events but you don't know the context & the big picture & where Gandhi Ji was coming from, why he did what he did, so doesn't Dr.Sampath, who is clearly sitting in judgement & a poor one at that. Regardless Gandhi Ji was the most respected Indian - not just within India but also by the British & the world. No other freedom fighter had a seat at the table except Gandhi Ji - now that is telling something & it's sad that Dr.Sampath & his friends aren't reading anything into it & are taking that respect for granted.
@@pmm6856😅 he had a seat at the table doesn't it justifies he might be underlying of british
@@funtioz123 certainly if you’re a negative person & a pessimist. Cup half full means they respected him. But honestly, we ourselves would invite & talk only to people with whom we can speak & connect & have a cogent conversation, not with someone whom we’re uncomfortable with, don’t you think?
Liked the balanced approach. We dont need history served straight from the kitchen sizzling with personal biases and passions but we need it to be served cold to be chewed and relished without prejudice.
That’s well put!
Mind Begs the Question:
If an organization Governing a Nation
Against Freedom Fighters principles
Idolizing Hitler
Patriots,Fascists?
Poetry in prose! ❤
Gandhi probably was the most cunning politician the world has ever seen.
He should not be labelled as the father of the nation... He spent his youth earning money abroad
@@sudeshnam1672by that logic google,youtube and microsoft CEOs should not be called as indian origin because they're living and earning from abroad
@@throwingcrabs I am not going to call them father of my nation and not will we have to bear their face on our currencies... Be rest assured...
@@sudeshnam1672 mmm what? Your counter was pretty good ngl but that doesn't explain why you think gandhiji shouldn't be respected. You seem alot more educated than most andhbakts but i would like to know why you don't like gandhi. Is it because of his connections with congress(the party bjp supporters hate), because of godi media or because of whatsapp university?
@@throwingcrabs Because he dint stand for true freedom fighters and he always gave the British a decision front which is not the reason they backed off... If walking on the road with a bunch of followers would have sought freedom... Trust me we wouldn't be so proud...
Anyways, between 1945 to 1951 all colonies were free... So he did basically a PR stunt for the British... And was instrumental in actioning the partition...
They were a bunch of mean political individuals... who did the religion stuff...
( Currently our country is also going thru the same wave , big diary producing states , I guess have politicians who keep the cows in their house post milking age) , and make dramas on who would eat what ... While big names from same state are washing out entire bank and economy and sitting in other countries...
Subash Bose, Vallabhai Patel, Bhagat singh, Savarkar, BG thilak and many more vigorous freedom fighters were thrown in dark just to put Gandhi in light. All the baddest sufferings faced by the huge patriots were buried and all the credits were just given to some one who specifically put all our common man into intolerable sufferings n name of movement.
Patel ji won the internal election of INC with 13 votes but still how the hell newla can became PM candidate with zero or 1 vote
Gandhi has popularity, way more than he deserved.
Gandhi helped Nehru So Nehru helped Gandhi to fame him after independence suppressing all other real freedom fighters.
Post 1947, when Mr Atlee, ex- PM of British India was asked as to how much was the impact of Gandhi 's struggle on the British. Mr Atlee spelt it out, ' m I n I m a l'
All our freedom fighter who doesn't follow MK Gandhi's ideology, are labeled as coward & terrorist by Gandhi.
I like the fact that Sampath has a centric POV. Crucial for a historian.
Leftists are more capitalists than any capitalist in the world only difference is they have huge amount of hidden money (black money)
There is a need to systematically downgrade the concept of ONE father of the nation by using a newer concept like "Founding fathers of Independent India" in every textbook and quiz and monuments. We need to give everyone their due recognition - Netaji, Lokmanya, Sardar Patel, Gandhiji, Dadabhai, Lalaji, Pal, Savarkar, C. Rajagopalachari, Bismil, Asfaquallah Khan, Azad, Subramania Bharati etc etc.
You nicely coined the more appropriate term, "Founding Fathers of Independent India."
Very apt!
@@Shashank_Naidu Thank you, reminding myself also that we all ought to be using "Bharat" as much as possible 😅🙏
@@Sririri123 So what's your take on this: Did gandhiji had a major role in our freedom? I genuinely want to know different opinions.
@@nikhilvijay6022 I had to resort an objective generated answer instead of trying to do it myself, so here you go. The Indian National Army (INA) led by Subhas Chandra Bose and the disobedience by some British Indian army units did play a significant role in weakening the British colonial grip on India.
The INA's efforts and the loyalty of some Indian troops to the British Crown were wavering, which created concerns for the British. Additionally, the economic costs of maintaining the colonial empire, combined with the devastation of World War II, made it difficult for the British to sustain their rule over India.
The estimated £45 trillion extracted from India during the colonial era is a staggering figure, and it's true that the British didn't leave many other colonies voluntarily. The British departure from India was likely hastened by a combination of factors, including:
1. _Rising nationalism and resistance_
2. _Economic constraints_
3. _International pressure_ (e.g., from the United States)
4. _Military fatigue_ (after World War II)
While it's impossible to know for certain, it's possible that without the INA's efforts and the disobedience by some British Indian army units, the British might have tried to maintain their control over India for a longer period. However, the winds of change were already blowing, and the British colonial empire was likely unsustainable in the long term.
@@nikhilvijay6022 The Indian independence movement led by Mahatma Gandhi is one of the only prominent and successful examples of nonviolent resistance leading to the end of colonial extractive rule. However, it is relatively unique in its scale and success. Nonviolent movements have played important roles in various struggles for independence or civil rights, but the direct removal of a colonial power that had extracted such vast resources is rare. Most other examples of decolonization involved some level of armed resistance or geopolitical shifts 🤦♂️
Some more??
The idea that the contributions of Mahatma Gandhi to Indian independence may have been emphasized or "over-inflated" by political forces, particularly those associated with the Nehru-Gandhi family, is a perspective held by some historians and political commentators. This viewpoint suggests that the narrative of Gandhi as the central figure in India's independence struggle has been reinforced and perpetuated by the political parties and governments that have been closely linked to his legacy, particularly the Indian National Congress, which was led by members of the Gandhi-Nehru family for much of India's post-independence history.1. The Role of the Nehru-Gandhi FamilyPolitical Legacy: The Nehru-Gandhi family, beginning with Jawaharlal Nehru (India’s first Prime Minister and a close associate of Gandhi), has played a dominant role in Indian politics. Nehru, followed by his daughter Indira Gandhi, his grandson Rajiv Gandhi, and later other family members, led the Indian National Congress for many decades.Narrative Control: As leaders of the ruling party for much of India's post-independence history, they had significant influence over the national narrative and historical interpretation of the freedom struggle. It is plausible that the Gandhi-Nehru family would emphasize Gandhi’s contributions as a way of legitimizing their own political authority and linking their governance to the revered figure of Gandhi.2. Gandhi’s Influence and LegacyIconic Status: Gandhi’s philosophy of nonviolence and civil disobedience became iconic not only in India but globally. His methods inspired other movements around the world, and his image as the "Father of the Nation" in India has been deeply ingrained in the national consciousness.Educational and Cultural Reinforcement: Gandhi’s role in the independence movement is a central part of Indian education and cultural discourse. His life and philosophy are taught extensively in schools, celebrated in films, literature, and commemorated through various national symbols (like currency and national holidays).3. Underscoring Other ContributionsSubhas Chandra Bose and Others: Critics argue that the contributions of other key figures, like Subhas Chandra Bose, Bhagat Singh, and numerous other freedom fighters, have not been given the same level of recognition. Bose’s armed struggle and the fear it instilled in the British administration are seen by some as equally or even more critical to India’s eventual independence.Regional Movements: Additionally, regional movements and leaders who played significant roles in the independence struggle might not have received as much attention in the national narrative, which has often been dominated by the Gandhi-Nehru axis.4. The Rarity of Nonviolent SuccessUnique Case of India: The success of nonviolent resistance in achieving Indian independence is indeed a rare phenomenon in world history. This rarity makes it a compelling narrative, one that has been celebrated and perhaps magnified because of its unique nature. Gandhi’s nonviolent approach, contrasting with the often violent and tumultuous decolonization processes elsewhere, adds to his mythos.Post-Colonial Narrative: In the post-colonial period, many newly independent nations sought symbols of moral leadership and legitimacy. Gandhi’s philosophy provided a powerful, positive image of the anti-colonial struggle, which may have contributed to the emphasis on his role.5. Political UtilitySymbol of Unity and Moral Authority: Gandhi has been used as a symbol of unity and moral authority, particularly in times of political crisis or when seeking to appeal to broad, diverse constituencies. The Congress party and other political groups have invoked Gandhi’s legacy to align themselves with these values.Political Narrative: In a democracy, political narratives are often shaped to align with the values and symbols that resonate most with the public. Gandhi’s image as the leading figure of the independence movement is one such narrative that has been cultivated over time, possibly at the expense of other contributors to India’s freedom.
Satyameva Jayatey,
Jai Bharatham
The muslim's love towards gandhi is enough proof that how gandhi was greatful for india.
They love Gandhi but not his ideology of non-violence
Ungrateful?
Stone pelters are Gandhi lover ? They are doing Al-Taqqiya
@@TeluguPie GANDHI idea of non-violence was for only hindus he never said muslim to stop violence, example read comments of ambedkar on gamdhi after moplah massacre
Gandhi a muslim lover ,so not a hindu 💯
It was India's bad luck that we had Gandhi leading the freedom movement. Where in the world people have got their freedom without bloodshed? It was never going to happen in India. The main reason behind British leaving was the revolt in Indian armed forces and Netaji Subhash Chandra Bose's INA.
Nathuram Godse should have eliminated the so-called freedom fighter before he did the damage that is still continuing to impact India.
GHANDI MADE MUSTAKES BUT DID 100 RIGHT THINGS . YOU GAVE DISSCUSSED THIS NOW I THINK THIS CHANELL IS PAID 🟥 . NO WAY TRYING TO SAY GODSE IS BETTER THAN GHANDI . SUCH FOOLISHNESS . GHANDI DID MISTAKE BUT IF GHANDI WAS NOT THERE INDIA WOULD NEVER GET A FREEDOM 🟥🟥🟥
@@rogger972 yes someone else must have spearheaded the freedom movement. Not this man definitely. He served in South Africa in British army as a ambulancedriver, he could have been made a secret agent. The British are very good in maintaining secrecy and deceit.
Uss samay tumhara dadaji angrezo ki sandaas saaf kiya karta tha.
🤣🤣 Histroy ka gyaan books se lena chahiye, whatsapp university se nahi.
The fact that Gandhi Ji was at the forefront of the fight & his values & words prevailed most with the Indians, the British & the world proves his leadership skill of bringing peace together. This leading that you mention doesn’t happen by chance but by choice & so Gandhi Ji was the first among equals. Only a good person can be at the helm & not someone who revolts or fights or screams. Let’s be honest, every Indian wanted an independent India & the others had an equal opportunity but couldn’t create a consensus either within or with the opposition. Gandhi Ji had a seat at the table only because he chose ahimsa & non violence. Now even the British would’ve shunned him had he told them that I’m going to kill generals & revolts in your army. Now what was the smartest thing to do - Gandhi Ji’s methods & his path , he was phenomenal & that can never be understood by Dr.Sampath
Gandhi was a real life Kejriwal.
This cadre like comment is very much idiotic.
Ummm kejriwal is real bro...
Gandhi is more like shakuni than anything
Gandi nahi, chucha nehru was kejriwal of that time. Kejru used anna hazare and threw him, chucha also used gandi and had made his mind to throw moulanda gandi at sone point.
What's wrong with kejriwal?
Khejriwal is worst than Gandhi
In my early days Gandhi was taught as an angel but as time passed now everybody has realised that Gandhi was pro Pakistan.
Gandhi utna hi mahatma tha jitna islam peaceful religion hai😂
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@@saloni2244 ek rapist mahatma nahi ho sakta.
Who are “everyone”❓Any proof of Gandhi being pro-Muslim❓
Neta ji's photo should be in our currency.
I was searching for this comment. Thank you for saying it out loud.
and what about other freedom fighter's does their sacrifice doesn't matter
Yes completely agreed👍
Frankly speaking Gandhi is not Mahatma. I consider Subhash Chandra Bose as a super hero of Bharat.
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Absolutely true
Ok tell me what he did for India ?
@@war0nstupidity767 Gandhi did nothing apart from brushing shoulders of British with useless non violence stuff.
Whereas Subhash Chandra Bose ignited the minds of Hindustan to fight for freedom.
If Gandhi did not exist, we would have got the freedom long back.
Duratma and topi chacha were English Ghulams.
Mind Begs the Question:
If an organization Governing a Nation
Against Freedom Fighters principles
Idolizing Hitler
Patriots,Fascists?
And what about savarkar who promised to become loyal Ghulam of British empire?
@@ZaidKhan-su3ey Veer Savarkar was given capital punishment by British government. He wanted to save his life and wanted to unite Indians against the Britishers, he apologized to come out of Andaman cellular Jail.
If Veer Savarkar would have been loyal to Britishers, he would have got cell with fans, beds, attached toilet and other amenities which the so called other freedom fighters got.
@@akshaybengaluru 🤣🤣🤣 he apologized and kept the promise... He opposed quit India movement 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@ZaidKhan-su3ey 😂😂. Akalmand.
If non violent movrments like satyagraha was effective, then why was Dandi March and quit India movement unsuccessful in getting the independence.
Gandhi made all Indians look like impotent and non violent slaves through his submissivenes. He did create a much needed awareness for freedom... but his methods were useless.
We were all brainwashed in childhood that he was a God sent angel to Indians. The “Devil” is in the detail as they say… literally.
Gandhi after reading the biography of the Prophet Muhammad (P.B.U.H.*):
"What a wonderful life story, after finishing the second volume, I find myself wishing there was more."
Explains a lot!
*Police Be Upon Him
😂 Was it mentioned anywhere that Prophet M*hammed (Poop Be Upon Them) didn't know how to read or write? 😂 It's funny we are READING his biography 😂 I am sure your comment will get deleted soon, I just saw a comment on G*dse getting deleted 🤦♂️
You are such an insecure and jealous person 😂
GHANDI MADE MiSTAKES BUT DID 100 RIGHT THINGS . YOU DISSCUSSED THIS in chanell .NOW I THINK THIS CHANELL IS PAID 🟥 . NO WAY TRYING TO SAY GODSE IS BETTER THAN GHANDI . SUCH FOOLISHNESS . GHANDI DID MISTAKE BUT IF GHANDI WAS NOT THERE INDIA WOULD NEVER GET A FREEDOM 🟥🟥🟥
@@rogger972 You spelled Bose wrong.
Mohammed salle salla (Narak vaas be upon him)
They say because of Gandhi Ji, India's Independence was dragged by 25 years!
No doubt about it.
Because of whom, we would have got Freedom in 1922,....I again it was because of his non cooperation movement...
True.
Blood bath was dragged by 25 yrs.
Who are they?
The satwic quality of Dr. Sampath in his profession is a matter of pride time every fellow bharateeya gbh
Karan thapar's family is one of those brown sahibs
His family also converted to Christianity
Please Bring Dr.Anand Ranganathan on the show🙏
Ranveer.. if you liked the Legend of Shaheef Bhagat Singh, then you must watch "SHAHEED" by Shri Manoj Kumar Ji.. that level of passion towards our Respected Martyrs 🙏🙏💐💐🙏🙏🕉🕉 can be felt in depth more, in that one. Gandhi was a two edged sword for INDIA 🇮🇳
Quoting sai deepak," Mr gandhi is not mahatma for me. He not a hero. And remember he is not a saint he is politician".
Same goes for present leadership. at the end ALL. Are Politicians😂😂😂
@@RAHULSEN-og6mcThe present leadership never called themselves saints… Amit Shah himself admits he is a politician.. They are not hypocrites like the liberals are
@@RAHULSEN-og6mc2 log aye ek ne doosre ko Mahatma banaya badle mae 2ko chacha banaya😅
We owe him something ‼️Perhaps, you don’t know or don’t care to recognise that he didn’t enrich his family, his children 🤔
@@MathewThomasFET does that make him saint? Not enriching his family?
Gandhi did nothing but slowed the INDIA's war for Independence. And was responsible for the death and massacre of more than million people. And if your hate what I'm saying here, let me add more spice in it - "Amar Balidani Pandit, Shri Nathuram Godse Ji" sada amar rahe.
GHANDI MADE MiSTAKES BUT DID 100 RIGHT THINGS . YOU DISSCUSSED THIS in chanell .NOW I THINK THIS CHANELL IS PAID 🟥 . NO WAY TRYING TO SAY GODSE IS BETTER THAN GHANDI . SUCH FOOLISHNESS . GHANDI DID MISTAKE BUT IF GHANDI WAS NOT THERE INDIA WOULD NEVER GET A FREEDOM 🟥🟥🟥
It is your freedom of speech to glorify a bloody murderer and demean a man who did a lot for the country, be it good or bad. As they say, "I may not like what you say but I'll defend to death your right to say it."
You're thinking you'll rile up libs but I'm sorry to say your attempt has failed.
@@rogger972 bad bot
Absolutely right!! Gandi was father of pakistan and he actually broke Bharat into pieces!!
@@rogger972gandhi was once a british agent brother u knw wht once an agent will always be an agent
Savarkar & Bose were the real heroes !
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Take out 1-2 years from Savarkar's life. Then Savarkar becomes the greatest British agent and chief architect of the partition.
And Bose called Gandhi `Father of the nation'. He is fool---you or Bose?
Gandhi was the biggest villain on this planet for all times to come.
Bhakt spotted
BRAINWASHED🟥. THIS PODCAST IS GREAT . BUT WHAT UR SAYING IS 💀
How can you call a person Bhakt just because they are opposing or not fond of someone you worship? The kind of 'spiritual' and so called experiment he did with those girls, who were teenagers and didn't know what was going on----only a monster can do that.
@@ZaidKhan-su3ey just go and read his autobiography aur agar tab bhi samajh me na aaye to samajh lena ki "real muslim" ho tm😂
@@krishnabhojne their prophet was a pedophile and the justification they give, he was told by allah to f@@k a 9 yr old and that was the only way to pass on the message. hilarious. he cud have adopted her. nupur sharma opened the pandora's box
Subhash Chandra Bose 🕉🇮🇳
Unlike that Chavda, this guy has actually read history, he is actually talking rationally, I wish to give him all my support on this particular topic. Though I would like to add that Gandhi only merged the Khilafat and Non-Cooperation movement because they thought that it would unite Hindus and Muslims, though it backfired a little. I thought I would never say this for someone in Ranveer's Podcast, but I would like to hear more of his thoughts as he seems like someone who would love to hear his opposition out, and someone who knows what they are talking about. Glad I stumbled upon him 😊😊😊😊😊
Brilliant balanced podcast. My Hero is Subash Chandra Bose. Jai Hind
Not balanced one bit - it was clearly anti Gandhi Ji which is not right & not true
@@pmm6856stupid Gandhi bakth he is he molester and not a saint. He was a politician with full of hypocrisy.
@@pmm6856 are you Khangress NCERT and reading books, that is your mindset. Why INDIRA gandhi was behind to kill Subhash Chandra Bose. ?? ask this question also . Read history and let me give you some gyan ead the statement given by Clement Attlee. The Governor of West Bengal Justice PB Chakraborthy in 1956, Clement Attlee had come to India and stayed in Kolkata as a guest of the then governor. And if you read History Mr. then you must be knowing that Clement Richard Attlee was the man, who as leader of the Labour Party and British Prime Minister between 1945 and 1951, signed off on the decision to grant Independence to India.And upon question asked why Britisher left in very diplomatic way, answer was the Subhash Chandra Bose and its army and revolt in British army. Gandhi have non influence though on secret dealing with Gandhi, in book he was made hero!!!
Wonderful Ranveer - not only for getting a brilliant mind like Vikram Sampat on the show but to extract such a dense historical nugget in 20 mins flat. Vikram just explained the entire
hot mess of India's intellectual thought - past, present and future - as if we were eating a choco chip cookie 🙂
Excellent presentation of facts about Gandhi. Hats off to your daredevil revelations . Entire sanatanis should know the blunders commited by Nehru and Gandhi during Congress rule. Can any Congress fellow has the guts to counter him on facts? Bharat Mata ki Jai.
Very smartly vikram tries to downplay the significance of Quit India movement. Viceroy Linlithgow described the movement as "by far the most serious rebellion since 1857". FD Roosevelt noticed the movement and started to pressurize Britain to give in to Indian demands.
Hence after the war, the British knew that they can't stay any longer in India
The irony of this nation lies in the imposition of one man as the "Chacha" (uncle) of the entire nation, while another is thrusted on Indians as the "Baapu" (father) of the nation.
One can observe non violence and moderation, only when someone is giving you an armed protection.
Gandhi had a great chance of saving Bhagat sing and fellow freedom fighters. But he never uttered a single word. He highlighted and glorified Nehru.
He tried to save bhagat singh.
@@whysoserious1457 No he and Nehru not even uttered a single word against it. Because at the time Bagthsingh had became one of the most popular freedom fighter at that time which made a great negative impact on Nehrus growth.
@@mysticguy9191 he wrote a letter ,but british rejected the plea and executed bhagat before official execution
@@Tejas-ny2ud he didn't nehru insisted not to.
Not only that if gandhi was a man of non violence then y he supported illegal recruitment of indian men to british army to fought ww.
@@Tejas-ny2ud tell me why he was serving the British army in the boar war in South Africa? His non violence was only for the Indians, he had nothing to do with freedom, he was just experimenting with the Indian people.
Remove him from currency and add the real leader Subhash Chandra Bose
He was not Sanghi. He lshafaqullah Baghat Singh were Leftists. Patel was aCongrssi. Why r u steeling Heros. U were r always collobraters. Mukutji was against Quite India Movement.
No we need build temple for Mahathma Ghandhi and worship him.
Echoing JSDeepak... Gandhi a Mahatma is hilarious.
Sardar Patel , Subhash Bose , Bhagat Singh all of them used to refer Gandhi as Mahatma, except ambedkar every major personality of Gandhi's time praised Gandhi a lot
@@raunakmalviya3175 He was crowned ‘Mahatma’ by British only.
JSD is a joke who is only abusive.
@@raunakmalviya3175 did you know gandhi was a pedophile who used to sleep nude with small kids ?
He was a racist who called blacks Africans as animals ?
Did you you he was a castiest?
Did you know he asked hindu women to bot rebel agnist muslim men even if they get raped ?
Did you know gandhi advised Jews of germany to accept death with glory but not to rebel agnist Hitler?
Defend this
@@raunakmalviya3175 he used to sleep naked with his grandniece, he was a pervert
When I was school, I had a lesson in history book that was on US freedom fight which they won by taking arms against invaders. I always had a question in mind, why couldn't India get the freedom the same way as it would have helped us to get freedom atleast 50 years in advance. Now I know the reason, thanks to Mr.Gandhi
With unified bharat
but broo gandhi arrived in india in 1916🙃
@swapram3101- your understanding is wrong. Without a mass movement India would not have got freedom
British had much superior military and India not only lacked organised military but also nationalistic spirit. Gandhi wanted to awaken the nationalism among Indians by taking numerous padayatra. He went beyond caste, religion to foster unity to throw the British out. There are always good and bad about every human, Gandhi was unnecessary drawn into this, he didn't ask for position nor any other benefits post independence. His one agenda was to make the Indians to stay united. British ruled for nearly 200 years which means we failed innumerable times to send them out. Gandhi just used a strategy that worked. Don't get carried away by such shallow debates. Jai Hind!
Brilliant, balanced and brevity at it's best ❤👌🏼
Clearly MKG was the first toolkit implementor 🔥🔥🔥
anandmanvi1532 You have come under Sanghi trap. There is a reason Gandhi was called Mahatma and it will remain. Only for ping you can deny the truth. It will resurface again. This talk is not about vilifying Gandhi but about making sure other freedom strugglers are given their due and not forgotten
Absolutely correct!! Except we didn't realise what a toolkit was at that time!! 😂😂
Maturity is when you realise that we have been fooled all thru our childhood in the name of Bapu got us freedom and the epitome of his so called ‘Non-Violence’ movement.
That's not maturity, it's called brainwash !
@@rutuparndurgawadohh really?? Can u enlighten us with facts u have which will prove that he was correct?
It is a great joke that you call yourself matured.
There was one more reason for Indian independence in 1947. America did press the British to let India go. Of course, USA was not totally altruist ; they expected India to form a close association with the west.
Uk was broke after ww2 usa wanted to be the new empire. The result you see of pak when it joined cinto.
You need to thank hitler for kicking brits arse so hard they couldn't afford the slavery anymore
Unfortunately Gandhi and Nehru are the darkest part of the Indian freedom struggle which is overrated and over celebrated.
Both Gandhi and Nehru had done more harm to India's strategic, religious, and cultural fabric instead of benefitting.
Darkest?? Really!!
there was no person with a bigger support and charisma in india than gandhi and nehru , u cannot have a freedom movement without them
@@Tejas-ny2ud Are you serious, is this a valid argument. Just because you have a charismatic personality and big name in the politics, you don't get a right to jeopardize your national, cultural and strategic interest. If you are at some important position you should work in the national interest for the greater good of your nation.
There is no feeling of one india in common indians it was gandhiji who travelled extensively and brought that feeling
@@vishalbhatt4262 There is no feeling of one india in common indians it was gandhiji who travelled extensively and brought that feeling
Father of partition of nation called father of nation after 1947.
The nation was in 10 000 pieces before British.
He was called father of the nation by SC Bose in 1942. Learn history, not from whatapp university.
Superb perspective from Vikram Sampath!
He Was On The Mark What He Said .
During Even School Time When I Used To Study Such Movements, I Used To Question Them . Also People Used To Rage Against Gandhi Back Then Too , Now It Has Increased.
Here When He Said In The Last Is TRUE In My Views Too & There Are More Things Too ..
Though he has a balanced view, all the discussion leads to one conclusion, Gandhi in beds with British. Sorry unable to see how his movements are aligned in the interests of Bharath
Evidence and his own admission
Vikram Sampath, you have put facts in front of Indians ,I agree with you
There are some pointss here that need more support and clarity from Mr. Sampat. When exactly did Gandhi actually promise that he would restore the caliph in Turkey? He only offered to support that movement, not that he could or would restore the caliph since obviously he had no control over the Brits. It was actually a brilliant move to bring Muslims and Hindus together in the context of British politics and the islamist influence. 2. The quit India movement had some very clear demands including purna swaraj and the creation of a provisional government.
It's very easy to blame and nitpick Gandhis choices in hindsight, and obviously he made mistakes, but there is zero doubt that there was no other leader who could get the support that he could from Indian people. The revolutionary movement, as bold as it was, was doomed to failure. The only hope somewhat was Bose but he didn't really provide any alternatives. The idea of aligning with the Nazis or imperial Japan was insane and God forbid if these were to have come to fruition Indias suffering would've been unthinkable. One look at what Japan did in China or with Indian pows should make this clear.
V. O. Chidambaram PILLAI had a long correspondence with Gandhi, not yet Mahatma, from 1915 to 1920. In 1915, when Gandhi visited Chennai (Madras then), both had met. Some people in South Africa of Indian origin had collected money to help Chidambaram and transmitted the amount through Gandhi. However, Chidambaram did not receive the money. He had some lengthy correspondence with Gandhi on the subject. In one instance Gandhi wrote a postcard to Chidambaram in Tamil with his own hand. Chidambaram was delighted on seeing the postcard and, for a moment, forgot about the money dispute.[11] However, on 4 February 1916, Chidamabaram wrote to a friend, "Rs. 347-12-0 has come from Sriman Gandhi."[11]
In 1920, Chidambaram quit the Indian National Congress, citing ideological differences with Mahatma Gandhi.
VOC was a true patriot, born free, totally committed, without looking for adoration, but geographically confined to the south . He cannot be compared with MG who was a kind of "politico" freedom fighter, with a larger reach, full of self-importance, even undharmically supporting Khalat movement. This is not to devalue MG contribution, on his own and as a part so many freedom fighters. Honestly, with or without Gandhi, India would have achieved independence, and yet Gandhi deserves our respect for his contribution. Time and destiny favoured Gandhi.
Albert Einstein the greatest scientific genius of the millennium wrote this :
“I believe that Gandhi's views were the most enlightened of all the political men of our time. We should strive to do things in his spirit: not to use violence in fighting for our cause, but by non-participation in anything you believe is evil."
Romain To Roland French thinker writer and musicologist was a great admirer of Gandhi, and considered him to be worthy of the title "Prince of Peace". He believed that Gandhi's philosophy was time-tested and would not change, and that he showed great belief in bringing about economic equality through non-violence. Roland wrote
"He is the One Luminous, Creator of All, Mahatma, Always in the hearts of the people enshrined, Revealed through Love, Intuition, and Thought, Whoever knows Him, Immortal becomes.."
MG was definitely not in our Nation to Unite and Fight for Nations Independence.He definitely Played His Own Games in the Midst of Fightin 4 Freedom and that's Psychologically Criminal ,Tricking and Cheating Innocent ppl at that Time.Unforgivable.He was in it for His Own GamePlayin.Some So Called Greats find Joy in that kinda Games.😏😏😏
Of course, there are many factors that contributed to the success of the freedom movement. There is no doubt that Gandhi's struggle for freedom was strengthened by them. However, the uniqueness of Gandhi's movement was 'non-violence'. For the first time in history it a great power was brought to its knees not by a violent uprising, but by non-violent resistance and with love, not hate at its heart. That is the uniqueness of India finally winning freedom, even if one argues that previous movements like the 1857 first war of independence might have sent a message to the British that they could not take their occupation for granted.
Good interview and Thanks for sharing facts of Indian independence struggle, these should be included in school Textbooks
My grandfather belonged to pre-independent India; served in the Army; worshipped Bose. But his background is orthodox TN brahmin. The brahmin could no longer practice their profession; and so they went searching for alternative professions. The jobs as an army soldier or as clerks or (if affluent, then) as lawyers were enough run a family. Being a brahmin, important part of orthodoxy included procreation - which eventually meant running a household. So- once the world war was done; and independence was near- he quit army; and for as long as I remembered, I have seen him go back to traditional brahmin ways of living- performing his nitya karma-s 3 times a day.
Chakravarthy are tamils? I thought they were bengali.
Or may be you married a bengali
Brahmins are not tamils don't confuse urself and dont compare us tamils with those disgusting brahmins who divided my people which we are still fighting.
They are telegu and Tamils also
Bengali spelling is chakraborty
If shree ram can be criticised why should Gandhi not be criticised . Gandhi is not bigger tha Shree Ram
Even today its brown vs brown person. British continue to rule us after independence through these brown sahibs.
Gandhi was suddenly thrust upon India that is Bharat, from where did he come, from the Boer war, where in south Africa he fought for the British, was he planted to become a hero of the freedom struggle in India, where by the support of British, he rose, totally orchestrated by the British?
He is not the great man we wanted, he was an above average leader. Not a national hero, many regional heroes of the time ignored deliberately by congress party.
Made bigger concessions to the British than others would, he was trapped by his own image of peace icon. He deserves a respectability like others not above the others. Was Indian at heart, his British friends too were pro India than pro british.
Neither Hero nor Villian. A human, who made a huge impact on the world and of course India.
One should be careful enough while choosing words to describe monumental personalities like Gandhi. Hero or a secret villain is really very derogatory remark. And one section of political class for its vested interest is targeting Gandhi. A juxtaposition of the way of life gandhi spent and leaders of this so-called political class will give us clarity. A man who spent his life wearing a 2 piece khadi attire for the whole of his life and on the other side the ones wearing an attire of lakhs of rupees each day. Every body of that period played their role for independence. The problem comes with a selective approach of redefining the roles based on one's current days affinity. And don't forget that they are representing the leaders who wrote the British pages of letter hinting how the British cab curb Quit India movement. History registers everything whether we like it or not. End of any criticism should have a constructive benefit to the society at large. These critics underestimate the memory and understanding of viewers.
While disagree with your standpoint on Vikram Sampaths work and research, I agree that we should not approach History from the lens of our personal political inclination.
Very well said
We belittle many freedom fighters, call Gandhi a tall figure, and give gyan the above. Huh!!
@@rajeshkrish2125 in fact it is Subhash chandra bose who called Gandhi as Mahatma first
did you know gandhi was a pedophile who used to sleep nude with small kids ?
He was a racist who called blacks Africans as animals ?
Did you you he was a castiest?
Did you know he asked hindu women to bot rebel agnist muslim men even if they get raped ?
Did you know gandhi advised Jews of germany to accept death with glory but not to rebel agnist Hitler?
Defend this
Even being a centrist you will come to conslusion that Gandhi was a toxic politician who caused more harm than good to India. A pasifict who delayed India independance and subdued actual freedom fighters like Bose, Savarkar and Patel. 😢😢
I think we should be more forthright about Gandhi's negative role in India's independence esp., with his relationship with two great patriots - Amhedkar & Savarkar whom he diabolically opposed. I like this show of Ranveer but two requests : pl do not do Bharatanatyam with hand play & tone down your false convent accent.
No one has ever told that Gandhi is the only person behind the freedom... We all were taught that 1857 Sipahi bidraha was the 1st freedom movement. Now we are using our freedom fighters to propagate our own agendas.
19:51 👉Ambedkar👈 is the best example who never wanted Freedom 🎯 Can anyone prove me wrong (with references)? 👇
Ambedkar was a staunch empire loyalist, that was the reason British wanted him to be the chairman of the drafting committee of the constitution.
@@DipakBose-bq1vv I have done a lot of reading as well Sir! I strongly agree with you.👍 Ambedkar was smart and well read person. The more you read about him, you will realize at what extent one can stoop. We all are sitting on a time b*mb of Dalit-Savarn war, skillfully orchestrated by him.🤦♂️ Imagine👉 Can India forever go on like this? Does any party has guts to remove what he created for only 10 years limit? From example of Manipur, can you imagine what can happen if that is to be removed across India? Have you ever interacted with Mulnivaasi NeoBuddhists? 😅
@@deepjoshi1333 if he was such a traitor, why does he write so many books like paksitan and partition of India.
@@MrRaghavann All the traitor have to act centrists.. They can't go on and boast about their 👉real intentions👈 as I mentioned in above comment, Ambedkar was Columbia Graduate, very skilled and well read. He was definately more educated than any other of that era 🎯
👉 Let me give you one beautiful example:
In his Book, "Who are Shudras" page 68-69 he debunked the theory of "Aryan Invasion" with presenting available studies. But not a single word on why it was brought(devide & rule), by whom it was brought(his british master), when it was brought(early 1800s after they devided us in cast), what harm it caused(just google Mulnivaasi, they still exist). No sir..! 👉He wrote countless articles in Marathi opposing freedom and asked Dalits to not participate as well.👈
Stop this conspiracy theories
1) Read ambedkars views on islam
2) Read why he chose buddhism instead of islam or christianity. Because he believed all Indians must have a common history ( buddhism is very much like hinduism)
3) Reservation was only for 10 years but it is congress and now bjp who keep it alive
4) Think is caste system really invisible from society?
Sorry to Say...can Anyone Give Me One Good Facts about Gandhi,s Contribution for the Independence of this Country ... Can Any One Explain Me the Perfect Reason...Why Annie Basant was Sidelined in the Congress Party after Her Tremendous Reaction against Gandhi,s Statement during 1920 in the Party...why every Single Individuals were Purposely sidelined in the Congress Party those who... Opposed Gandhi,s Shakehand policies with the British Govt...I am coming from a Family 2 of My family members have spent more than 10 years each in the Prison of Cellular Jail...My family members were purposely murdered during the Riots of 1946 in Kolkata...what Gandhi did to the Person...Surabhuddin...who was Solely responsible for the Riots of Kolkata...any one can counter my statement...i have plenty more to say but no use...
It is easy to interpret history from today. And also easy to comment on historical personalities out of present days perspective. I advise the critics of Gandhi to live like him just for one day.
I can try for one night..... but now it's illegal to sleep naked with young girls 😜
No one wants to live like that neurotic old fellow. No thank you.
Come out of your make belive world britain was a imperialist Empire any sane person knows such a Empire would never go by itself without violence we took independence on their behest we got partitioned into two nations
@@deepgoradia4369 i did not say only non violent movement was sole reason for the British to leave India. There were many reasons. And all those reasons need to be necessarily from Indian point of view. They have their own reasons also. But now why do we either attribute the whole credit to.our favourite section of free dom fighters by marginalising and resorting to character assassination of other freedom fighters. It is not worth doing. Britishers left us but we are still hanging around...
@@Rudravakku they are not marganilizing or demoralizing gandhis action they are just critically evaluating gandhi and when you do that you look both sides gandhis ideology was a very pacifist one due to congress ecosystem people who criticize gandhi are looked as if he is some sort of godse bhakt only after 2014 we can discuss such topics openly
Gandhi was the one who taught India how to unite. Which is something modern Day leaders have failed to do
Gandhi was yesterday's Arvind Kejriwal.
The amount of money it cost to show gandhi as a poor fakir, is like the amount that AAP spends to show Kansiwal as something he is not, an incorruptible simple honest man.
There were thousands of Freedom Fighters who sacrificed their lives for the Freedom but were just neglected just to bring Gandhi- Nehru duo in the limelight.
Gandhi entered India during the second decade of the twentieth century and Hundreds of Freedom Fighters had lost their lives for the country.
According to me the work and the Sacrifice of Veer Savarkar and his Family was incomparable and Gandhi is not even one tenth of this great hero.
Subhash Chandra Bose was the main hero of the Freedom.
The sacrifice of the young leaders like Babu Genu, Bhagat singh, Sukhdev etc has no comparison to this man who tried to get himself focused at the dawn of his age.
Can you tell me what contribution of VD Savarkar AFTER he got out of Kala pani in 1924?
What revolutionary activity he undertook? Did he get jailed thereafter?
ओन्ली सपोर्ट सुभाषबाबू 🙏
Gandhi did the task of uniting Indians despite of different states, religions or castes. everyone stood on same platform during his movement, that's what he did for India. Created India out of various states.
Hero for muslims, Villian for non muslims.
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Vikram Sampath is a man, not a historian, who lionised Lamb named Savarkar
VKS is such a poised person, the best historian🎉
If Gandhi gets rebirth in Bharath now, they must be kept in Andaman jail, for which he killed many innocent Hindus killed during partition period by cruel Muslims of East & west Pakisthan.
Gandhi & cunning Nehru was responsible .
Tatas, Gandhi and Nehru all were educated in UK. And it should not surprise us why Indians were fighting from other side. Don't we see it even today - we still have more threat from inside vs outside (or our people lack national identity and eager to pick other cause for perks or money).
Hello Ranveer bro 👋, you are doing a brilliant job bringing Indian historians on the show talking about partition like we never knew!!. Watching from 🇵🇰 much love and hugs to you brother. But I request you to please bring the Pakistani perspective on partition as well.
Bose was Boss 😎🙏🏻
Respect to Vikram for telling the truth/facts without fear of being targeted by congis and in the end giving credit to Ghandhi in the end with his comment.
After watching quite a few episodes of TRS, finally realised the man has an agenda. Not that one less viewer matters,but goodbye😒
did you know gandhi was a pedophile who used to sleep nude with small kids ?
He was a racist who called blacks Africans as animals ?
Did you you he was a castiest?
Did you know he asked hindu women to bot rebel agnist muslim men even if they get raped ?
Did you know gandhi advised Jews of germany to accept death with glory but not to rebel agnist Hitler?
Defend this
Baag idar se
Aunty Pooja paath Karo politics youngsters ko karne do.
Agenda is something that holds bragging without facts and truth. For the past 70 years many Indian generations were the victims of falsified educational agenda projected with vested interests and malicious intentions. Today actually in this digital age we are realizing the blunders of education by the past ruling Governments.
we are re-examining the role of Sri M.K. Gandhi as an Indian and re-evaluating him. I entirely agree with Sampath about the Quit India movement. It was a non-starter. I was a school boy then.
Very smartly vikram tries to downplay the significance of Quit India movement. Viceroy Linlithgow described the movement as "by far the most serious rebellion since 1857". FD Roosevelt noticed the movement and started to pressurize Britain to give in to Indian demands.
Hence after the war, the British knew that they can't stay any longer in India
We must be the only people who disparage our past and our heroes.
@@priyanshpandey5545yeah just like how people still believe in fantasy books like mahabharath,quran and bible
Not so much.. many British people disparage Rhodes, Thatcher, Churchill, as well as colonialism etc.
Our history was written by outsiders and not Indians, so it was their angle of our history,unlike other countries who wrote their own history.
You should learn what all freedom fighters had to say about Gandhi, not some random historian
After india getting independence, Now ranveer is demeaning Mahatma Gandhi and his contribution to India's independence...gandhi ignited the fire of freedom. And first step towards anything is always the important one
If non violent movrments like satyagraha was effective, then why was Dandi March and quit India movement unsuccessful in getting the independence.
@@akshaybengaluru according to you brother, every non violent thing is ineffective?.. and impact can only be seen if someone use violence?.. I personally found this logic very bullshit😂
@@techtemple1 Dr Babasaheb Ambedkar himself criticized Ghandhi's attitude and his approach for independence and called it Bull shit.
@@akshaybengaluru Two right and intelligent people can have different opinions on different things brother. And both can be right at the same time. We should not demean any freedom fighter that's what I am saying. After so many years, we who have hardly contributed to our society and its well being, we do not have any right to blame, demean India's freedom fighters.
@@techtemple1 we are not demeaning anyone. But Gandhi's contribution for independence was minimal on Britishers quitting India, that's what we meant to say.
if Gandhi was so great, how is it that he never got beaten up , arrested, even insulted while others where killed on sight. Why did Gandhi leave South Africa, how did Bhagat Singh (one of his greatest followers) start to hate him, why was Bhagat Singh hung a day earlier than scheduled after Gandhi visited the jail... i love Bharat, we should simply imagine why Gandhi is on all our bills, several roads around the planet, everyone knows him, his legacy is Nehru, Jinnah, Indira, Rajiv, Sonia, Rahul, Priyanka..... shame on us if we don't even have the balls to stand up for the people who died for us,
Very productive podcast....Thanks TRS Clip
Very nice explained by Vikram Sampath ji...his summary at the end was really great. We need more people like him with rational minds.May God bless him!
Gandhi wasn't Villain he was traitor,.planted & nurtured by Britishers throughout his life. In return he minimised the harm on Empire while diverting the focus of freedom movement that too during a crucial time period when Britishers couldn't afford a violent war in India as they were already busy in Europe.
"Gandhi contributed greatly in independence" is a diplomatic lie. By saying this one will not face any criticism. The fact is he was actually a stumbling block in independence journey.
This is nice and well said about some of Gandhi failures
I am a proud Sanghi or Bhakt. Gandhi did more harm than good by foisting Jawaharlal against democratically elected Sardar Patel.His hate of Hindus started since his landing in Bharat fromSuth Africa.
So ye video banane ke liye kisne kisko fees diya hoga? Vikram Sampad ne TRS ko for uska dukan chalane ke liye ya Vice varsa for their youtube views.. 😂 kahan se ajate hain ye story teller historians kuchh bhi khayali pulav pelne ke liye… aur ye bacha baithke stories sunta aur sunata rehta hai and views bator raha hai….
Btech MBA banker log bhi historian ban rhe h aaj kal. Chal rha h aur log chala rhe h 😂
@@sohitsharma803 sahi dhanda hai. Bus dimag thoda tez honi chahiye and achhi baat karne ki skills… phir kuchh bhi pelte raho
@@SamirDas-qq7ft dimaag tez toh h hi nhi. Ye Gobar aur gaumutra k shake pine walo k liye bas Angreezi mein kuch bhi boldo..inhe chlega. Colonial metantality complex gya nhi.
Gandhi failed here.
Are ye ranveer ka show ab meme material bn gya hai. It's more than a comedy show😂
@@hacker7909 exactly. Aise agar koi bhi kuchh bhi history pelne lage to phir kya har 10yrs mein history ki kitab chng karoge. I m not saying what we studied were also 100% correct but how does it matter. Jo sabne padha hai usi ko consistent rehne do. History change karke kya ukhad lenge, ukhadna hi hai to cureent ko chang karke future ko bright karo na
MKG The Incomplete Man... was responsible for Bharat's partition on religious grounds. We would had got Independence even without MKG because after WWII the British Empire was broke and US had taken over as superpower. For UK we Bharat would had been like a White Elephant since they had already looted us of all our wealth and nothing was left back in Bharat to loot any further. I salute Godse for his actions because anti-nationals must be stopped at any cost.... Nation First. Akanda Bharat.
Jai Hind 🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳
LOL, Gandhi never agreed to partition, it was Patel and Nehru who agreed to it and hence CWC voted for the proposal in june 1947.
Read history, Patel was most active supporter of partition by december 1946. He gave a speech on 3 june 1947 where he said that partition is inevitable. I can share you evidences and proofs if you want.
Gandhi was soft toward british call him agent or what. He was more loyal to them. I am not some sanghi i usually critize modi and his government.
These days no one actually likes Gandhi.
Muslims never respected him that's why 90% voted for pakistan.
Hindus also hate him now for siding with muslims and making hindus scapegoat.
Dalits hate him because of disgreements with ambedkar. He used to do passive aggressive anshan.
And now liberals are also disliking Gandhi. I am atheist too, Gandhi do not deserve this much hate but he didn't deserve this much praise to begin with. I never liked this rastrapita BS.
Non violence is most low iq move I have seen in history as if non violence work 😂
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