Why Jinnah & Many Indians Wanted Pakistan - Untold History Explained
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In this episode of The Ranveer Show, we welcome Tilak Devasher, an author, and a retired Special Secretary, Cabinet Secretariat of the Government of India. He is currently serving as a National Security Advisory Board (NSAB) member and a consultant for Vivekanand International Foundation. He is the author of three widely known books based on Pakistan; ‘Pakistan: Courting the Abyss’ (December 2016), ‘Pakistan: At the Helm’ (July 2018), and ‘Pakistan: The Balochistan Conundrum’ (July 2019).
Today, Tilak Devasher decodes Pakistan’s current situation and also sheds light on what happened during the partition of India & Pakistan. He talks about the history of Pakistan, the real story behind the India & Pakistan Partitions, his honest opinion on present-day India, and what could have been different if the partition didn’t take place. He further dwells upon Muhammad Ali Jinnah and how he led to the partition. Along with that, Tilak sir talked about the present scenario of Pakistan and what is the situation of non-Muslims in Pakistan.
This was an in-depth conversation about the India and Pakistan partition and how it happened. We also talked about the geopolitical scenario of Pakistan. I hope you enjoy this episode as much as I did and tell us your opinions in the comments!
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I am Brahvi Speaking
There are Many Tribes in Balochistan they speak Brahvi The Old Name of Brahvi was Kurd-Gaali (Which Means Lanaguage of Kurds)
Keep up with your language. It thousands of years to develop language and culture. It takes few year to distroyed.
Protect your language ,it's a culture and emotion
Does vali means path in brahvi? It is same sound word meaning in tamizh 😂😂🤣 God as a tamilian it spins my head when I think about probability.
Roj Bas bra
Listening to him, brought tears in my eyes. I am a Pakistani and this guy has summarised the whole history in minutes. I have read history books ( not the Punjab textbook board), it never made sense to me that why people were not able to understand what's been happening. Its the brain washing of the masses and it has happened so perfectly that it starts from our homes, goes on in Schools and colleges and continues in University and media, even your spouse and family you marry into has the same idea. I moved abroad with my family so that my daughters do not get anywhere near these bastards who would use Islam to manipulate their brains. I feel sorry for the rest of my family living there. Its just beyond disgusting.
For one, I am happy that the partition happened. All the garbage, religious fanatics moved to Pakistan. If India was not partitioned, the ghost of Islam would never have let the citizens of this country, Bharat, live in somewhat of a peaceful existence. I see India is going to moon and making progress, albeit a bit slow in my view, but still a progress. While Pakistan, I don't need to say much.
@@udaydeshpande2225The only religious fanatics and radicals are the Hindus. We’ve seen the conditions of Muslims, Sikhs and Christian’s there especially with how churches were burnt down there
Why blame the messenger when you love the message?
So much nafrat. Only upon your death you will know the truth
@@zahirak5348look I dnt mind you being brain washed. It's my decision to decide for my family. I think you a fellow Pakistani as well so there is no doubt that you will listen to the right word and wish death upon others. Some people don't need to die to know the truth. Truth is out there, you just need eyes to see and brain to follow.
Gandhi did not go fast till Late Gopal Patha (Mukherjee) built an army (arms and ammunition black marketed from the bow barracks where WORLD WAR 2 US soldiers CAMP) and mass killings of Muslims happened as a reaction to the direct action day.
One of the greatest men to whom historical narrative has been unjust- Shri. Gopal Patha. 🙏🏽
I hope we rectify this.
@vijayravi56 whats more shameful is that today TMC is w0rse than AIML
This is like our childhood period listening to stories from grandpa.
Same vibe is there ❤
Your grand pa spoke in a language that you can't write in anymore though
The Anglo-American attitude towards Pakistan hasn’t really changed much since 1947. The guest is very watchable, topical, and informed.
As a Pakistani person, I thank you for bringing this gem of a Person to a social media platform. It feels like I am listening to my grandpa rather than someone sitting in a rival place. I hope you can understand my feelings.
Fantastic interview...thank you both
This is absolutely wonderful. First time you have brought a real teacher on the show. I am a student of Archeology and History. This is utterly fantastic!
I thought we read all this in history books😮
This is half baked history not talking about Islamic terror of 1921 khilafat movement, betrayal of Gandhi why he got killed by Godse. I would recommend you to read Sanjay Dixit's book with all events referenced from historic source in sequence. Ranveer can simply call it conspiracy on show.
Really great video! Knowledge that is only possible for people if they study multiple books on various subjects of history ❤
Great perk of today's gen that they don't have to go through all that effort, just sit with great minds like these who put these efforts throughout their life
Very interesting and informative. Thank you both.
Jinnah was not a freedom fighter.
Yeah...just 'fighter'.
True 💯💯💯
First terrorist sleeper cell
He was a british agent and just follow the brits' instructions. Look how many people had been killed just because of him. No less than Hitler.
And an 'urban ELITE'
Tilak Devasher is underselling himself by saying he's a historian. The man is a retired R&AW (cabinet secretariat).
May be he does not want to use R&AW as a selling point for Publicity .. so, I respect this man
@@RsandeepK7a matter 😅😅😊😊😊😊 15:38
The answer to the question is they wanted separate Pakistan because of the hatred towards Hindus and Hinduism, and the false pride that they had Arab Origin just because their forefathers were forced to accept Islam.
Also innate fear that Hindus has moved ahead through better-education. So they will remain subordinate, poor. Well they became poorer in Pakistan.
Also the people who converted were the ones who didn't want to pay Jaziya Tax....a tradition that continues in Pakistan till this day...
I meant the tradition of not paying taxes....
They still consider themselves as Arabs and Turks as well as they even stole the language urdu which was originally spoken in parts of Up Bihar mp etc
There are VERY VERY VERY important lessons for India of 2023 in this 36-minute-long video. You cannot define a country by a single religion.
Any attempt to do so will only result in spectacular failure because the human brain will always find a way to differentiate between two things which look absolutely similar.
India can only be made strong when people accept each other's differences & take advantage of those differences to reach the same goal.
We did that experiments but leftist infiltration and appeasement gave space for hardliners I still believe that RSs is not even close to Muslim league neither the Hindus in india are radical. Many Hindus vote for bjps nationalist development mindset
You still haven’t learnt the lesson. Islam in particular and Abrahamic faiths in general are fundamentally different from dharmic faiths. They believe in conquest and reject coexistence. The only way we can fix it by strong push to civilisational state where everyone knows and recognises where they come from.
Tell that to the pEacefuls. They need your sermon more than others.
The "Divide and Rule" policy is the most successful strategies that the British used against India. It worked so well, and still has an impact on us.
Thats why bjp is winning even today. What they wont tell you is that hindu mahasabha always sided with british as they wanted to secure hindu interests
@@tsawal there is nothing called divide and rule. This term is created by lebrandu historians. How can someone divide something which is not United from the beginning. Britishers divided Hindu Muslim unity is a Bullshit. Britishers just replaced Islamic invaders and continue their legacy of prosecution
Just that they never used it. They literally united and created India. If it weren't for them, the Indian subcontinent would probably look like europe
@@charananekibalijaun8837 it was sardar Vallabhbhai Patel who United India. Without Britishers marathas would have capture enter India
Hindu Muslim war began before British
Excellent analytical facts. The fact that muslims are bound by their religious ideology which must be followed without question is clear that their ghazwa e hind wet dream must come to fruition. Sanatan Dharmi's must train and arm ourselves globally as this is clearly a civilizational war. The west always sides with followers of abrahamic ideologies. Jai hind 💪
Jai hind
Every Pakistani should watch this (if they have the courage).
Don't worry, I am not holding my breath.
Wow!!! An Indian saying Pakistan's problem is that its ethnic groups were historically never part of a single state. Yeah but India with God knows how many ethnic groups has always been a single entity. The 4 major ethnic groups of Pakistan have a shared history.
Here are a few facts that you can check for yourself, there are more Balochs living in Punjab than the entire population of Balochistan. There are more Pushtuns in Karachi Sindh than in Peshawar & Kabul combined.
And Kalat was one of the 4 princely states that became part of the current province of Balochistan. Kharan, Lasbela, and Makran acceded to Pakistan before 47, and Quetta, the current capital of the province, and the entire northern part of the province was part of British India's Chief Commisoners Province and its Municipality and Jirga leaders chose Pakistan. Pakistan bought Gwadar from Oman in 50's. And no Without Quetta and the 3 princely states, Kalat would not have shared a border with oil-rich Iran, rather it would have been enclosed within the territory of Pakistan from all sides, so was not feasible.
Indian has been single country since 4000 years before mohammad was born and wrote quran telling he is getting that all from allah
The speaker is wrong when he says, to which sect a Muslim in Pakistan belongs to is more important to him than Islam. Those differences may be 1% but what they agree on are 99%. They all define themselves as Muslims, they call themselves Muslims and they all say they are Pakistanis. Some people, because of ignorance or bad intentions, try to divide Muslims between Sunni, Shia, Barelvi, Daubundi. As far as sects & castes are concerned, there are much, much more in India and with wider differences.
This man is the most intellectual and unbiased person ranveer has ever baught on his channel
Starting to watch,
Me: I wouldn't be surprised if the host starts asking about Aliens and Yetis again 😆
The host seemed to be clueless about India’s freedom struggle history.
Listening to all this, we all should be happy and understand that religion into politics is a very wrong thing, hope we understand something from it
Right 👍🇵🇰
So what are the hindus doing now with the muslims
It's funny that the host did not know that Brahui and Tamil have a certain degree of similarity. In fact, this was established quite early during the British rule, when linguists realized that Brahui was an isolated case of a language having Dravidian roots but sitting amid Indo-Aryan speaking communities. There has even been some speculation that this might indicate that Dravidian speaking people once inhabited Southern Pakistan and Western India, and that they were responsible for the Indus Valley Civilization, which anyway, predates the arrival of Aryans into India.
Our Social Media superstars seem to be quite academically challenged.
Perfect explanation..kya baat hai sir...jo me likh nhi paya..aaj aapne vo bol diya 😂
And this explanation is much better than Abhijit chavada's
Great episode. Shocking ignorance shown by host on basic matters. How can one not remember the name of Jinnahs party in an episode focused on Pakistan! Immature interruptions like ‘Damnnnnn’ absolutely interrupt the flow
Don't be a hater. He made this conversation happen. This is a topic that's interwoven with many false narratives, so this podcast clip is absolutely necessary.
@@TheGodFahader what hater? I started the comment saying great episode! lol
The host should review his interview style. Cringeworthy interruptions
Great guests but unnecessary, meaning less interruptions…
Please looking forward to many more interesting guests with minimal of “what I know”s
The good thing is, he isnt just nodding his head like others(hosts)
Wow! An Eye Opener!! 😢
Great Discussion ❤🇵🇰as a Proud Pakistani i agree with what they said. Not only me but Professors in Universities of Islamabad 🇵🇰 also believe the same.
Divide and Rule.
Even though they have liberated us but they are the ones who are indirectly governing us.
Similarly for biharis who are the most hindus inside than anything else, 😂
Biharis have been called hindustani in Pakistan. My grandfather came to Pakistan in 1952 looking for jobs because India was dying with hunger, he was not religious at all the rest of the biharis in the family tried to fit in as Muslims but inside their souls they were hindus, women wearing Indian saris and bindi and following bihari culture, but after 9/11 we see a real change, nó more saris and no more bindis and the whole country gets radical Muslims like never before. When these Muslims converts during the time of mughals they didn't like it but they had no choice as a middle class then British comes and uses the same class then again they had no choice to remain hindu. I finally feel that my generation of 80s had finally sensed that I've a choice as a middle class to look into this and choose the religion or way of life.
British always wanted to take one revenge for the failure of east India company. The other interests were soviet union to stay in the region.
🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
The best conversation ever I heard on partition of Pakistan , Pakistan is surviving with the enemity of Hindus of Bharat,yet the Abdullah mullah wanted Modi should speak to Pakistan 😠
Very insightful
The only problem with the partition was that it was no a complete one. All piecefuls should've been sent to pakistan. Yes we would've lost a lot of great Indian muslims but the ratio of good and crazy is super skewed towards the latter.
It was a complete partition because India was a country open to everyone. Pakistan viewed hindus and muslims as different nationalities but India didn't use the same criteria to define nationality. So some people chose India over Pakistan. On a different note,What do you think about akhand bharat if you think all muslims shouldve gone to pakistan.
@@MostLucidWhy was Pakistan created then? Where was Pakistan before 1947 to think of Hindus n Muslims differently? How mischievous could you get? Do you think you can hoodwink people forever?
@@MostLucid Agree
@@humungous09 I don't know what you're saying but I answered this. Indian nationality= all people. Pakistan nationality= Preference to muslims.
People are being naive. India would be a better place had the partition been complete.
This is quite interesting Being a Pakistani I am getting to know about the history through an Indian
he is a pakistani historian. lol
False. And it is purely one sided and edited storyline ... it is always there on both sides
Awesome study by tailk sir the fault lines of Pakistan
this is the first guest on this channel that has acurate representation of history.
great interview..this coming from a pakistani...the points i want to add are
(1) in 1937, congress got power n it showed inclination towards hindus ...it was a glimpse of the future if hindus are in majority,,they will not spare muslims...current indian government is proving it again too.
(2) muslim was defined and agreed by all in 1970s and qadianis were declared non muslim as they dont consider prophet Muhammad peace be upon him as last prophet.
(3) grandson of nawab of qallat in an interview on geo channel( its on you youtube) said that my grand father told us that he saw prophet Muhammad peace be upon him in his dream n he asked to vote for Pakistan...
i agree to all other things that sir said in this podcast...its a learning for me as a pakistani..im a pashtun n respect abdul ghaffar khan too.
Lol 1937 pirpur report was buch of fraud papers created by jinnah. The gov general kinkithgow who was highly pro jinnah and muslim league declared it fraud . 😂😂😂
Also whatever happening in india is natural course of history where Moslem have already taken their nation , hindu have all the right to claim their religious identity and don't make compromise
If you can get Nafees Ur Rehman Durrani on your show that would be great. He is a well established Pashtun academic who can delve deeper into the Pashtun experience east of the Durand.
As a Pashtun from Chitral that guy is a nut job. He isn't anywhere are reasonable or sensible as the gentlemen in this video lol.
Excellent guest! Despite TRS’ leading set ups and sensational language, the historian delivered an objective and structured analysis based on historical record. More of this please!
Interesting how Bharat has become exactly what Muslims feared. And the idea of Pakistan failed to deliver what it promised as well.
Sorry how has Bharat become what muslims feared?
When you accuse someone of a crime which it's not for a long time at times it doesn't matter for that person to actually do the crime.
@@Prat2023 I am going assume u r being serious and not facetious. The systematic attacks on Muslim homes under the guise of illegal buildings, continued lynching for eating beef (allegedly), so call love jihad (which has yet to be proven as actual orchestrated conspiracy), the CAA, and any more. Let’s not pretend that their is a plan to eliminate Islam for Bharat and making it a homogenous nation.
Is there a mass migration of muslims from India. U ask muslims in india they will not leave india even now. Bada aaya propoganda waala
This brings back the stories of partition days my father and uncles used to narrate. How the Muslims believed Jinnah. Many Muslims new Jinnah's theory was wrong but to avoid being killed people migrated from both sides. Good neighbourly relations went up in smoke in a matter of days.
Pakistan still lives in the same delusion.
Interesting 🤔
18:10 Tamils were lived all around the world in sangam period. Tamil were good in business Tradition Trades and also good sailors.
there is a very good podcast by historysheeter channel on this subject
Unbiased lens on history.
Apart from what's right or wrong, at that time jinnah realised that Muslims will be in minority and because of that majorities will be protected and he was 100% right cuz its not about this or that but everyone's focus on majorities and their needs. And Same happened at that time it was not like Muslims were in bad situation but priority were Hindus because of majority that's why he took that decision. Even now we can see in india it's not like Muslims are being treated bad but they are not treated equally reason majorities right? Decision are made according to Hindus and even if you dont want it but at some point some extremists treat Muslims badly and say that minority and jinnah save us from that. What's happening now in pakistan is different but we've spent the golden time as well in pakistan. Insha Allah we'll rise again.
And second and most important things that it's a fact that pakistan have manipulated some history and cuz of that now we considered everything is manipulated. But that fact is that we've never take interest in history we belive on what we've studied in school after that we were like okay this happened and all that but there are many books in library in which history is written but we were not interested in library or stuff (q k ham to mahaan haina)
The failure of 1946 coalition government of Congress and Indian Muslim league frustrated prime minister nehru and home minister Patel so much that both of them decided to get rid of all India Muslim league once and for all by conceding partition of India. Patel mentions this in his 1948 speech when someone asks him if Pakistan and India could back gether again, he answered this partition has separated the bad guys from the good guys. Let them run their country and if successful India will enjoy the cool Breeze that flows from Pakistan to India.
India also stood to benefit from partition because Pakistan insulated India from the attacks from Afghanistan like a buffer State.
Sri Lanka??? Sri Lanka was never part of India. They were always a separate nation even before the time of Ashoka. Yes, the British colonized it but the people never considered themselves to be part of India.
It was part of British India.
And it was also part of Indian empires
U will wish it wasin a few years
@@anmolsrivastava9251 it was not part of British India. Modern day Myanmar was part of British India. But Sri Lanka (called Ceylon at the time) was administered seperately. From 1815-1948
No it wasn't.
Mind-boggling how underprepared the interviewer is, one needs to know or study atleast the basic of the subject you would be interviewing about, specially when you are trying to have an academic discussion about a subject most people are aware about.
well at least he is not pretending to be a know-it-all like many other youtubers
I feel this all the time 😅 but hey he is doing his show so cheers to him
His target audience is teenagers and less informed who dont readily take interest in such subjects.His interviews are in a ' I am dumb , break it down ' format...while I agree with you, I appreciate him trying to entice the non- intellectual crowd into serious subjects matters
First i used to hate the partition "now its completely good" whatever happens " is happens for good only" atleast they would have taken (some) garbage left which still exists in Great Bharat...
He is reading "Murder of Histroy" by KK Aziz pretty much on this interview. Sad that many don't know this simple story of Pak and India. Especially Pakistanis of course
Hi Buddy, i do not understand the purpose of this video. I think we all Pakistanis and Indians should get over Pakistan. Irrespective of why partition happened, me as a Pakistani, I'm really happy that it happened. I respect and appreciate India and indians its just that we wanted to live separately. Whatever anyone says about economic conditions of Pakistan, at least people here can buy houses irrespective of which relegion they practice. Why can't we just accept each other and live peacefully.
Answer is easy. You should ask your leaders and stop sending terrorists across the nation, own up 'Kasab', the mass murderer, as your own which your government hasn't done yet, stop claiming Kashmir and false propaganda. Until that happens, we are not going to take you seriously. Then step by step you want to stop hatred against Bharat, Hindus etc. If not, we are going to consider you an enemy nation.
In India also, no one asks you what your religion is when you go to buy a house, a car, open a bank account or anything else.
@sap268 I am happy to hear that. But I saw some videos of Javed Alhter and Saif Ali khan saying they can't buy a house in Mumbai due to their relegion. I am happy if that's not the case. The point is we are happy to have our own country, so we do not understand these kind of videos, which try to undermine Jinnah or the creation of Pakistan. I am sure India is happy with the creation of Bangladesh.why can Pakistan be accepted.
Simple: Stop terrorism!
@@deea1173 just get over Pakistan. The video was talking about 1947. 75 years later just get over it mate
Seriously? Ranveer dint know about Direct Action Day?
HIS BODY LANGUAGE AND ACTING SELLS THIS CHANNEL. HE ACTS AS IF HE IS AN INNOCENT.
Yes he earlier thought it was done by Yeti....
100 💯 agreed
Nice Interview
Excellent discussion, accurate and balanced. Not some foolish conspiracy theorist. You need to bring more people like him on your platform.
Please broadcast it in Hindi also. It will be a good lesson for Indians who are demanding Hindurastra. What is Hindurastra ? Is it Jai Sree Ram? If there are no Muslims in India then politicians will divide Hindus.
This men is a university himself,love from Bangladesh
This guy is ignorant about Moulana Azad too. Maulana Azad gave an interview in urdu to a kashmiri paper. His reasons are that by staying together they can convert Hindus faster
Ya bro this guy follower romila thapper..
Good narration
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Excellent podcast guest.. knowledgeable historian without drama. Can’t say that for Ranveer, All of his intelligence is based on hindi movies 😅. He always gives the movie analogy to all his podcast guests.
Do you even prepare before asking a question? Almost every question ends with I don’t remember! You have great prospect in Bollywood and Indian politics from Bihar.
Why not give the title 'Some (Muslims who stayed back in India and are currently) Indians wanted Pakistan.'
75 years later. I just one thing to say, anglo saxons bred snakes, got 9 11, london bombings, terrorism, and what not. And on the most fertile soils of Bharat, where the richest and the elite n pure punjabis sindhis lived with muslims, aatankwadis are bred. All those innocent souls lost to 9 11 n other terror attacks, blame it on the windsor family, churchill, nixon, jinnah, and hope such pious lands are not turn graveyards.
Partion is classic example of all religions in India every Bharath Varsha should learn from it
Owasi is the new Jinah 😂
I am sure he will kill more Muslims than what Jinnah did.
I get perplexed that a senior interviewer like you keep saying I don’t temper may be.
I would recommend that you talk to some Pakistani about that as well until you have your own agenda to promote. There are a lot of videos on UA-cam, which says the Indian narrative , but people would be interested in watching your videos if you interview some Pakistanis as well, like I said, if you are promoting your own agenda, then you do not need to interview any Pakistani and continue to promote your own agenda.
Ranvir Bhaiya.. 'Momin Saqib' ko bhi invite Karo kabhi .!
Waoo !! Did he just say Gandhi started fasting till death made muslim leaders stop the killing of Hindus in Calcutta. Gandhi did squats when direct action day happened. Direct action day happened for capturing Kolkata and most of the fertile lands of the eastern side of WB. The man who saved us Hindus was Gopal Mukherjee (gopal patha). When he gathered masses and started beheading muslims Gandhi came to their rescue and urged Mukherjee to stop the killings which he didn't and as a result we got back what was ours " The city of Kolkata" and he calls himself a student of history.
Ranveer you should know that we as viewer are not as ignorant. There is absolutely no need for breaking the flow of conversation for explaining the context.
Neglects the British interest in creating Pakistan to retain interest in the region to counteract the risk of Russia invading.
He mentioned it.
Even country divided two parts population exchange not happened on full fledge mode. Every intellectual raise this point. Other issues on Pakistan is useless.
This guy couldn't even remember Muslim League! Where did he have his schooling? 😂
You should invite former ambassador to Pakistan G Parthasarthy
Can the host stop interrupting when there is a guest who speaks without prompting. These interruptions are irritating.
Ranvir is asking what is lashkar difficult to believe he does not have basic knowledge or he is pretending playing safe
You have to think from audience point of view. These are complex subjects that need a layman’s approach to produce simple answers.
Tilak Devasher is an educated, communal Indian. When Ranveer pointed out that when he meets the cosmopolitan elite of Pakistan, he gets on with them -Devasher dismissed that.
Cosmopolitan elite on both side are communal. Yours are a bit extreme.
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As far as Former NWFP or now KPK province is concerned 65 percent population belongs to Hazara Divisions.
While most, not all, facts seem to be correct, the interpretation is flawed. Lets start with Jinnah.
Jinnah was an ardent Indian nationalist till 1930, when Mr Gandhi began to saffronize Congress and Muslim League was divided, Jinnah left politics and india and settled in England, bought a house and started his practice. This is not ambition for leadership, it’s actually a proof of his sincerity. Gokhele called Jinnah ambassador of Hindu Muslim unity. As did Sarojini Naidu. Many prominent Hindus and Sikhs admired Jinnah.
The idea of separate state for Muslims was first articulated by Iqbal. Google Allahabad address. Yes, same Iqbal who penned “sarae jahan se acha Hindustan hamara”. Iqbal was compelled to change his mind when he saw congress was controlled by Hindus who had no interest in Muslim welfare. Shuddi Sangatthan movement was in ascendency.
It took Iqbal three years to convince Jinnah of two nation policy for Muslim league. In 1935 Jinnah accepted to return on condition five prominent leaders of ML must invite him.
The true colors of Congress came to light after winning 1937 provincial elections when Muslims were treated as third class citizens. This cemented the idea of Pakistan.
Muslims don’t believe in nationalism or ethnicity, the only uniting force is Islam. This was the basis and the binding glue of Pakistan. Nations rise and fall in history. So the current challenge Muslims face is something which all nations have faced in history. Mankind is a work in progress. Muslims ruled over subcontinent for centuries when binding force was Islam.
Why ML leaders didn’t go to jail? Jinnah was not an agitator, his world was victory in court rooms based on jurisprudence, not on the streets by mob action. The direct action day was a peaceful show of force Bcos British refused to follow their own law. It was an exception. Forces opposed to ML caused the chaos and violence.
BTW, this writer was born, raised and educated in India. So don’t go blaming Pakistan or Mullah or religion. Facts are stubborn thing.
I don’t agree with the speaker at all. He is twisting all facts to suit his preconceived ideas. But it’s his show, he can say whatever he wants.
Hello
I am a Pakistani origine. I really appreciate this amazing talk. Thank you so much for this enlightening show. Sharing my point of view, Muslims were taught/told that Hindu people don't have moral / ethical values and they follow Chankiya's Machiavellian ideology. I still have to clear my mind on this as the Hindu politicians in Hindustan don't seem to stand on high moral ground (unfortunately, it's the same in Pakistan as the whole political elite is hyper corrupt except Imran Khan.
Chanakyaniti itself is a moral code for leaders. Pata nehi kya chuna khilaya hain tum logo ko. Arthsastra internet se download karke padh lena.
Every politician doesn't have any moral value and all of them follow machiavelli's approach whether the politician is a hindu , Muslims, Sikhs, Christian, atheist, buddhists, etc it doesn't matter the religion of politician . Imran khan did same dirty deals will pakistan army to come to power . Politician get in power bcoz they have to deliver on promise and if a politician doesn't lie he or she is a Saint not a politician. Stop living in 1500s , everyone lies even normal people .
Pakistan ka MATLAB Kia "la Ilaha illalla " itself defines that all the event happening and actions taken should be in accordance to Islam and not the culture , ethnicity, language driven motive . ISLAM order asks the Muslims to respect all the people despite of the class colour or creed . THIS is us humans who want to make discrimination against other peaple so that he/she is considered as superior. There are alot of problems when peaple with different backgrounds come into one unit . BUT that is another case if someone is doing the fire work in the matter of the country being independent . This person is right in some places but he is terribly wrong in other point which is the church attackes being said that Tehreek - labeek party did the name of Islam . If they really did this in the sacred name that is against the teachings of Islam but they did because they r being tought wrong which what so ever does not justify there wrong doings . If v see in the all over the world there are massive killings also but terrorists and terrorism have no religion and v have to acknowledge this fact . The mentality they have is due to reason that the Madrasas they go to are formed by a findings from the other ways .
The point of forming PAKISTAN is to create a place where everyone from everywhere May come and live and practice there religions . And Muslim facing other challenges should be overcome and should have a separate state so that no body is ruling them over there religion and other values . Now we are at this stage that if there is a mughal , Kashmiri, baloch , Punjabi, afghani , etc what so ever ethnicity you belong to now it's time we must come under the flag of PAKISTAN which is for the people of Pakistan which does not discriminate under different sects but brings together the idea of following unity and togetherness
1-Why Jinnah was never went to or thrown to jail for asking a separate country Pakistan because at that time independence from British was almost certain,
2-the Lashkers/tribal army we used later in Kashmir you have issue with that how about India used their Army/gangs to attack Hyderabad,junagad, Kashmir?
1. Jinnah wasn't thrown into jail because he was never a politician. He was a lawyer and he treated Pakistan like a case that he has to win. There is ample evidence, as pointed out by Dr. Ishtiaq Ahmed (prof. GC Lahore) in his biography of Jinnah, that Jinnah never much cared about Pakistan itself. If he did, he would have been actively involved in constitution making as he was the biggest legal mind they had but he didn't. He even said to the Indian ambassador "tell Jawaharlal I want to return to Bombay". Just like a lawyer, once the case is closed he is out of it.
2. The difference is courage. The Pakistanis never had the courage to do military action and resorted to proxies and all those Afridi hooligans did was plunder and rape.
Indian army didn't worry about any trouble and they went into Junagadh and Hyderabad with blowing the bugle.
Always knew Muslims in Indian Subcontinent have identity crises, 😂
Because they are following sexulla...
says in the indian in english, while watching an interview by indians in english regarding subcontinent. yeah we have an identity crisis lmao
@@npb1748 yeah you do... you guys don't accept your roots because you so desperately want to associate with the Saudis ... I asked a Muslim girl from Port Blair where her ancestors are from... she said Saudi.... hahahahha.... yeah sure... a converted tribal with vedic roots thinks she came from Saudi
@@gal_targareayn6721Tribal and Vedic roots is an oxymoron!
@@henryviii8808 sorry, indic....
I am from Pakistan and I observe both India and Pakistan neutrally. The guest is somewhat biased. Some of the things he has said are true but some things are overly exaggerated about Pakistan.
Can u point which is biased or not truth
it will always be like that , indians point of view and pakistanis point of view will differ
WHY THE DISHONESTY? Secular Quaid e Azam warned Mohandas Karamchand of mixing religion with politics to which Mohandas Karamchand said "Those who believe religion and politics are seperate knows neither one" 😒
No where in Pakistan do you see thousands of minority die in riots like you see in India nor has Pakistan occupied a Hindu majority state. So kindly be careful of throwing stones.
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Organized laskhas
Can't comprehend the name of the AFGAN guy he's mentioning
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Pushed by British to annex Baluchistan
I don’t believe the India Pakistan division was the wish of the people but only of the Muslim Elite of Bengal and Pakistan. Look at Pakistan of today; poor Pakistani people’s plight, their elite and the rulers treat them like Ahmad Shah Abdali or Nadir Shah and nothing more.
The problem is, the Pakistani Muslims are actually Hindi Muslims have Hindu Traditions and life style / culture, generally speaking but the Indian Hindus consider Or believe that all these Indian / Pakistani Muslims came as invaders of Hindustan. In reality 99.9% of all Muslims in the region have a Hindu lineage. But, I would state that this division of India has thrown the average Pakistani to the wolves; just look at how it works. In short, I agree with you. I am now a Pakistani Americans who sincerely wish this ugly and unfortunate division of India had not happened.
HISTORY MUST BE LEARNED OR HOW WILL YOU PLAN YOUR FUTURE! HISTORY ROCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
such interesting, impartial and new interpretation of history by a Pakistani historian , it was amazing to listen without knowing time is passing.
Very articulate and biased narration of history. I wish the history books in Pakistan were based on actual facts and events, today the situation could have been very different.
You mean unbiased?
Please invite this person to talk about use of religion in India as professed by Modi and its affiliates, Late Fehmida riaz had said. "tum bhi ham jaisey nikley" is India on same path as Pakistan has been, or probably now Pakistan is trying to get back and Indian is moving forward on same religious path which has brought Pakistan to current situation.
So what part of history is distorted in india, all that was told here sounded pretty much similar to what i think is taught in our school textbooks!
whitewashed...
Only history of Muslim invasion and two nation theory musli Islam direct action day all were tone down in the name of nation building muhhabat ki dukan.
An india who cares about Pakistan history and yearns for unified india is a meek indian.
That's an uneducated opinion.
how can we solve our problems now sir?
Out of ignorance the British and jinnah created Pakistan. This was the best move as a large number of non Hindus moved out. I hate to think what Bharat would be with the current number of Muslims that exist in Pakistan and Bangladesh. Most of the problem people moved out..
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Pushed by British to annex Baluchistan
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Per commission
None could define who's a Muslim
Ranveer you are too good by calling the good opinion person but somewhere you are not prioritising the Hindi language so that most viewers can understand the topic even so easy
Not only Hindi speakers need to understand, but the world. It is great that is is in English. So everyone all over the world will know.
Those who remained after partition are the worse than the rubbish who went away to Pakistan......👉😎✅
Balouch were the royal guards of the caliphate at Baghdad. The accession of kalat was due to the personal interference of Nawab of Bahawalpur.