How Hindus & Parsis Follow The SAME Religion - Historical Truth
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there are actually 3 religious traditions that come from the same source the Hindu , the Parsis and the Kalasha of the Hindu Kush in Pakistan .Formerly the religion involved other tribes that are now Muslim . At Nuristan's wama we find the Indrakun or the ancient garden of Indra . The mountain is still named for Indra .
Im a Zoroastrian. I found the discussion very interesting and the speaker too was on spot. Only thing that i would want to point out is, Zarathushtra never claimed to be a prophet. He called himself as a erish which is protoIndo-iranian for rishi/sage and it translates to the one who risens people or one who inspires people to think.
Ironically Prophethood of Zarathustra is borrowed in later times from Abrahamic religions. Thank you.
even hinduism tempered by islamic and british rulers in spite beinglarge population . zorastrianism might be tempered by Islamic invaders after taking over Iran to either make them submit to them or portrey them as evil
the wording and modern concept maybe since prophethood was originally a hebrew concept, but by spiritual standars the words prophet and rishi are describing the same type of enlighted beings, Abrahamic faiths, specially Christianity and Islam, completly misunderstand the concept due to perceiving5 figurative texts as literal
the only connection that we have with Indians is that we Arians conquered them , created Sanskrit and now they are not completely black . it is funny what are they are talking about . we are not brothers ... we conquered you that is why the language comes from the same place.
@@user-ni5eg8iq4u well there are different perspectives to think about from but your s is definitely wrong..
Agni ( Fire ) is so important that the First Hymn of Rig Veda starts with the Praise of Agni ( Fire)
We could have a riveting debate between him and Abhijit Chavda, since they have some fundamental difference in opinions. Please invite both of them together. It'll be a great watch.
Hello are you from assam
This guy has more credibility, he is a professor spent his life on these subjects. So i would definitely believe him. Abhijit Chavda is just a youtuber.
@@mahernoz Plus the guy is heavily biased. Will do heavy mental gymnastics to prove everything everywhere originated from India.
Clowns like you aren’t interested in knowledge but entertainment which is why u want a debate. It’s just a symptom of a shallow brain. Either way, this guy is a scholar while Chavda is a conspiracy theorist.
@Harry A if you follow him on UA-cam, ie, Abhijit Chavda, almost all his videos are like, everything originated from India. And then he'll go on to make some very vague connections as proof of his theory.
Just look at his video he made on how demonetization collapsed the Pakistan economy.
What i understood from the comments:
'Aryan Invasion' = Trigger word
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Rudra is 1000 times mentioned in vedas and this man is saying shiva has came afterwards 🥲 when these religions where not made lord shiva temples where in existence and he was worshiped🔱🔱
@ARYAN MIZDHA Yes, that's right, even goddess Kali, all of these gods and goddesses were more or less worshipped by the natives and only gained prominence later,.
Shiva is mentioned many times in Vedas, try reading Shiva Sankalpa sukta from Yajurveda it all about shiva
Another mantra is Om Namah Sambhavaya Cha
Mayaobhavaya Cha
Namah Shankaraya Cha
Mayaskaraya Cha
Namah Shivaya Cha
Shivtaraya Cha, this comes as a part of Sri Rudram chants of krishna yajurveda
@ARYAN MIZDHA vead even have story of tripuranatak
@ARYAN MIZDHA Rightly said ! Hindus have no idea what they are following.
We would like to have a face off between this gentleman and abhijeet Chanda ji
He mentions Early Vedic civilization
Then he introduces elements of Indo European Aryan
Then he states Early vedic civilization didn't worship idols.
See where he is going with it?
He is telling you that Ancient Hindus That worshiped Shiva Shakti Agni Rudra are not your ancetors. Our ancestors came from Europe and gave sanskrit words.
Very choomu but very shaatir
Mosty evidences says so, you should look into evidences, Indus valley civilizations dont have any relation to current Hindusim/Bhraminism. If you can prove it it will be worth a 1M dollars.
Not from Europe, from Central Asia, then spread and influenced Europe, Middle East, Iran, India. Both Europeans and Indians have Indoeuropean ancestors, we're both mixed with autoctonous and Indoeuropean
Shiva and Shakti are actually Bactrian god and goddess called osho and omma.
Osho became Shiva, omma became Uma.
no he saying the original aryans who hand links with aryans of iran didnt build temples they used animal sacrifice they contributed to later hinduism which came with shiva, brahmma, vishnu ,durga etc
He is correct I guess
Arrival of Buddhism?? Where did Gautam come from Europe? How about "emergence" of Buddhism within India?
Gautam Buddha is also aryan
I may be one of the few but I'm a French, Scot, Irish and British American who is fascinated by this and I look to the Zoroastrians, the Indians and the Greeks to get a sense of what our very ancient anscetors were like. God bless.
I'm Indian and interested in the same!
Now it all makes sense. Moshin khan will never accept that
Hindus of Bharat are an ancient civilization that had their own language which others might have learnt.
Burnol moment when you cannot accept facts from international scholars
not just him the whole doesn't accept that. The only true Indians languages are Dravidian.
@@Deira854 Tamil is isolated language
@@starmovies4580 no fool, it is part of the dravidian group
@@stardust2045 ♥️dey Ka scholar
How they say Shiva is discover later in every religious book there is mention that tridev bramha, Vishnu, Mahesh (Shiv) was always there from beginning.
@Abhijeet More Budhha was another guru like many before him in this civilisation, actually Buddism came later post budhha era . He had no intention of a religion, religion ‘ ism ‘ was not a concept in india . We had many teachers and many school of thoughts .
@ARYAN MIZDHA who is Rudra
Shiva as we know today(the trishul and snake garland) is actually a Bactrian god. He is mentioned as osho and his wife is mentioned as ommo. So osho became Shiva and ommo became Uma.
show me vishnu, ram, krishna, brahma, shiv in vedas he came later with mahabharta, ramayana, shiv purana
@@Vicky-fl7pv
Bactrian God lived in Kailash 😁🤣😋
And all places mentioned around him are in India 🤣🤣
Request to all Hindus to wear a "Raksha Dhaga" to show unity and respect to our ancestors. Don't expect others to do something for your Dharma if you can't even do this.
This guy is a firm beleiver in that false Aryan Invasion theory. Why can't he understand that it's a fake theory created by British?
@t s Muthuraman Aryan Invasion theory was specifically created the British to divide India. One simple proof is that: Vedas describe River Saraswati as mother of all floods. The river dried up in 1900BC. As per this false theory so called Aryans came to India in 1500BC. Those historians also say that it is Aryans that invented Hinduism and Vedas. If Aryans came in 1500BC, why did they describe about a river that dried 400 years ago? Biggest thing is this false theory was created to hide Mahabharata from the world.
We have historical texts older than 5000 years. This theory was specifically created because British could not bear the fact that Sanskrit is the mother of all languages
Instead try and understand upanishds rather than doing mindless things. Be a real Hindu who understands his/her religion.
@@jame176 where did he mention aryan invasion theory?
All I can see is him going along with global consensus. It's not his fault that Indians have a different take on the topic which is in stark contrast to mainstream views.
Its nice to see there is an educated class of us who is doing a healthy criticism, and not saying bad about him whether or not they like what he is saying.
Something is up with this guy. He's floating the fake Aryan invasion theory, calling dharmic religions missionary etc. Btw Indian religions never forcefully converted anyone, they just spread the knowledge to all directions. The kings and emperors of the places, where monks went to were inspired to take up this Sanskar and embraced them.
we can see scon no one forced them they themself got attracted.
Keep quiet he belongs to a peaceful community.....
He is a musalman wat do u expect
Buddhism did
isn't that the ideal "missionary".
Yes, they were different from tue abrahamic missionaries who would go to the lengths of forcing their ideas and religion of other.
Their first Dude Zaratustra appeared 1000BCE. Lol mahabharat was 5000BCE man and Ramayan way before that. Image how old Shiva’s presence would be coz he’s seen in Ramayan depictions too. These child religions owe a lot not to Zaratustra but to religions older to them. Asura deva, black white was there way before this dude introduced it to those religions.
thats Hindu belief historians don't believe ramayana and mahabharta was that long and zarastratha religion was inspired by a earlier aryan religion
How you are saying it's 5000BCE
He’s a historian, following and studying from historic and proven facts.
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Nobody has a definitive date for the Lord Zarathustra. Some say 1500 BCE some even 6000 BCE. So it's all speculation. Lord Zarathustra probably is somewhere in between the Ramayana and the Mahabharata.
The Mitanni, who lived in modern Kurdistan, probably had a religion that was even closer to the earliest Vedic religion. Their gods were Mitra, Varuna, Indra, and Nasatya. The Iranian gods before Zoroastrianism were of course similar, but Mitanni might be even closer. Which is interesting, since Mitanni is further to the west, compared with Persia.
I'm a Hindustani Parsi & found this most interesting - Ended tooo soon!! This gentleman seems to have a wealth of knowledge to share - Quite surprised to discover that he's in fact a Muslim Scholar (Khan) not the Hindu that I guessed he was. His knowledge educated me, but it is his humility that impressed me!! Thanks for inviting him - Namaste🙏from USA!!
speak Farsi then
@@hydrocarbon13 WHY would I want to speak Farsi - NOT a chance. I want NOTHING to do with Iran, & that crazy lot!! I speak Hindi & Gujarati because I'm Hindustani, and English because I live in the US & it's the business language of most of the world. FARSI not a chance!!!!!
To all commentators on this clip "History is not studied with emotion rather than with logic and evidence."
There's a difference between connecting the dots and knowing the truth.
and what is the truth?
@@catdogmouse555Connecting the dots is the best we can get to the past
Connecting the dots is the best way to know the truth if we can not prove or disprove something empirically.
We sanatani people don't need anyone from the peaceful community to teach us about our past. We have seen what the NCERT and the modern education system has done to us already. We never invaded any country nor we questioned anyone's religious beliefs nor we destroyed any religious places and that is why we were considered as weak. FYI there are a lot of could be's and probably in his lecture which is a kind of uncertainty. You're even questioning your own religion and trying to believe a Muslim scholar because your religion gave you that freedom, isn't it? I dare you to do the same with any other religion.
if India was disconnected to rest of the world then how ....can we see swastika every where in world...will it be russia,north america,south america,cental asia, in europe like Germany,lithuvanina....how come religion of Lithuania and Yazidi people is so much similar..allmost identical to Hindu dharma....
and Swastik is also used by native American tribes...
Thats what they have migrated from Europe to India, destroying or co existing in the end age of Indus Valley civilization.
So you think just because similar symbols are found all throughout the globe you figure that MUST mean the whole world was hindu? If only the symbolic evolution of homosapiens was so simple.
@@macdog1 they are not just symbols....they have importance in religion as well.....lithuanian and Yazidi people don't have just symbols in common with Hindus but also many other things for example....
Lithuanians believe in dharma and kalpavriksha tree and many more examples......
same with Yazidis they have same importance peacock lamp as Hindus....and they also do tilak....etc...
@@mukulpal8875... That's a complete red herring, obviously they have significance; that changes nothing from what I initially said
@@macdog1 well in that case you will not consider ....Shaivism, shaktism ,veshnoism, Vedanta, Tantra as one religion.....
Sanatan Dharam allows a person to have many paths .... tantra is very different from path of yoga....actually both are poles apart to each other......
the Devta and devi we worship in India is also worshiped in Japan ....with different names.....
in upper Himalayas ...we have shamanic rituals which are totally different. to .conventional Hinduism.....almost like native American tribes kind of ritual ...like ayahuasca ......
Where every religion thinking ends waha se sanatan start ho jata 💪
please note that, volkwagen=lok wahan
parmanant=param anant
calender=kal antar
Wittwa- Vidhwa
Iron- Ayas
Permanent is formed from Per+ manent
Per has meaning of pari परि act of doing something as in Samskrita परि
manent has meaning of remaining/believing
in persian it is manand मानन्द (arabic script مانند) continuity
Related to मन्यते, मान्यता, मानति (मानता है),मान,सम्मान
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Hey ranveer you should conduct a debate between this guy and abijith chavda
That guy is islam lite mode😒.. The main problem i find in islam is that they say all else are wrong and they only are right.. That is the main problem and forms the root of all other problems.. Not explaining. All have their freedom and faith, why try to convinve others.
He's not trying to convince you. But he is kind of right. Like all of the civilization has been at one point had a common ancestor.
He believes in aryan invasion theory , why beleive theories
Aryaman god of arya,
@@Hindu9054 That is your assumptions, hence it is theory not fact , as fact needs evidence. Arya in Sanskrit means a ‘ noble person ‘ that’s all . Modern research in genetics has proved there is no separation of race like Aryan or Dravidian. It is just a imposed theory a conspiracy against india .
@@preethishetty6179 i hv not said dravidian existed. just bcs aryan worshipers existed it doesnt mean dravidian existed
@@preethishetty6179 iran's original name is aryan. its just accent changed to Iran, original name is aryan
@@Hindu9054 well it was just persia , Iran & iraq is much later formation .
Confused minds about Shiva :
They say in north, Shiva is not a Vedic God , rudra and Shiva are different.
And the probability of Shiva being of Dravidian Nature is high.
When someone ask about it Kashmiri Shaivism a Deep silence will be the Answer.
In Tamilnadu these people say Our Shiva is not the Kailasa Shiva this is a different Shiva . A Dravidian politician Thol thirumavalvan once said Shiva was Christian 😀
@ARYAN MIZDHA Why he is not can you explain ? And who is Rudra ?
@ARYAN MIZDHA
As per western historians Rudra was translated as Rude because the root word goes to rud which became rude. So he is being called as roaring crying etc . but for any local Hindu Rudram means fiercely powerful. Rig veda states he is the distroyer.
Prsini is the wife of Rudra means bag of water every religion has an evolution. Slowly it takes new imagination so there comes new name. like Akhenaten the rude pharao's thought made the foundation stone to Judaism .
Weed smoking himalayan hitchhikers found some sound through their intution and later they made up an entire language which is now called Sanskrit ....
Prithvi, Aditi, Diti, Nishtigri, Indrani, Prisni, Usha, Surya, Agnayi, Varunani, Rodasi, Raka, Sinivali, Sradha, Aramati, Apsaras were big names once . The new generation cone with new name and established their rein
If Shiva was a Dravidian legend how come he landed in Afghanistan and Kashmir ? And what is the proof he is a Dravidian legend ?
Fyi. ..... Panini was from Afghan stock not from Dravidian region
Shiva had thousand of offsprings or manifestations Rudra's maruts are senses alphabets shapes etc .
Well that's good so shiva is great because he put Varuna and Indra in a casket and made them Third class😀 and he established rule over all Indo europeans gods thats fun.
@ARYAN MIZDHA 😂 This the problem no constructive arguments no evidence ... Just slandering.
Undestanding of Vedic way ? What is Vedic way ? Havan ... Yoga is also vedic not a single element of fire in it .
Primodal arguments cannot make an outcome on debates .
@ARYAN MIZDHA Yeah how an Adivasi reached Afghan and Kashmir ... May be that's the power of an Adivasi ...
I could sense racism in your words.
@ARYAN MIZDHA Sure 😂 just because he whacked Varun and Indra out of the picture and made them third class fellows and hijacked the entire thing . You may think its the power of Adivasi but isn't it great . 😀
Fascinating!
wish it was longer very informative
Zarathustra is still an anglicization - the name is Zartosht
Zarathustra is ancient Persian. Zartosht is middle Persian. Zoroaster is the anglicised term coming from Greek.
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Lo bhai Moshin Khan ne bola deva word comes from Greek word Deis.
Greek ne bataya bhai humko devas kya hota hain fir humnay sanskrit likhi.
Khudka 1400 saal ijaad hua bina logic ke toh kuch bhi bako
Janab, Mohsin Khan said that Devas and Deus have the same meaning. Devas, Deus, Ahura, Asura. Similarly, ek dusre mazhab ke Prophet se prerit hoke kuch log 1400 sal pehle apni mangadan kahani likhi jisko abhi mazhab ka roop diya gaya hain.
Dharm is what makes you calm and move your Focus inwards rather than focusing outward.
so americans and france progressive because of dharm
@@frankfernandes718 You can be an atheist and develop.See China China is atheist country. Ideal dharm is what makes you calm and quite and not harm another human or self . A real dharmik person will focus on himself and his inner self not the world.
@@frankfernandes718 because of Islam of Afghanistan,Iraq Iran Pakistan that's how America become rich 🤣🤣
@@swarupdas2552 china and dharm what dharm they follow eating dogs, cow bats n all where is the dharm in monarchy😂
@@frankfernandes718 You didn't read my reply properly. I said china is Atheist country not dharmik country. Read my reply carefully before commenting me .
Discuss about the genoside in Kashmir
which genocide there was no genocide in kashmir like the genocide done by hindus in gujarat against muslims and delhi against sikhs where thousands were killed
Did I hear him say that Aryans arrive .. well in that case .. he is not the person to brief on Indian history! Aryans are a myth
Aryaman god of arya,
@ARYAN MIZDHA u r mixbreed. no one denying
@ARYAN MIZDHA aryan doesnt mean white. it just mean the worshipers of hindu god arya.
@ARYAN MIZDHA we are at least a human breed .. 😜
@ARYAN MIZDHA Arya meant ‘ noble person ’ in Sanskrit,it isnt representative of any race of people. It is a conspiracy to demerit indian natives of being the creators of a vast knowledge like vedas . They want to deny us and make us feel inferior . This has been debunked by modern studies. We have Saraswati civilisation which is much older then indus itself again you have recent evacuation in south india which prooves these baseless aryan invasion theory futile effort by westerners to demerit native indians . Infact today actually if is said post first migration from africa, civilisation developed in india and later a group moved west , so it is actually reverse migration of culture and traditions.
Somewhere I have read that duryodhan and 99 brothers family couldnot live in Bharath khand out of humiliation after Mahabharata war. And they moved to North West towards their mother's place. I.e Pakistan and Afghanistan. Probably later they might have moved to Iran and othe desert places.
Man why doesn't he tell you that Zorusthra is born in Afghanistan and in that time Afghanistan was all hindu
Interesting... until he started about the Aryans. And concerning the rest of his story I have the impression he is very much western educated.
most historians believe in indo aryan story
Identity politics has clouded your mind.
The Aryan migration theory has too many facts supporting it. For some reason Indians have diverged from them.
@Nozarks1 it's delusion mostly. It hurts north Indians feelings to know that Hinduism did not in fact originate entirely within the subcontinent. Because it makes them feel like outsiders
@@anonymous-hl7ez our identity is well known to us from the time immemorial. A semi literate have no right to teach us
How can he say Vishnu was a dwarf and Shiva came letter
When you interview a person see that he is knowledgeable
He keeps debu king Hindu Gods
i dont know about vishnu but it is said shiva developed later and rudra merged with shiva
Great Historian 👍👍
Without studying history most of the people just follow the religion of their fathers whether it is right or wrong
Just sharing -
As per Islam - Adam is considered as 1st ever prophet. and same with Christianity
Christians don't consider Adam as an quote and quote prophet.
@@agniswar3 Yes because of their concept of "original sin" which Muslims think is made up.
What is the name of the expert?
Ranveer , very interesting conversation…one request would be to let your audience know of the expert and his/her qualifications and perhaps what source the conversation is coming from so the people can verify and learn facts….etc…etc.
The other thing, I’d like to point out is that the story I have heard is that…there were few sisters who were married to this “Rishi” one of the name is Aditi(if I am not mistaken) who had given birth to devas(including Indra…and many more)then the other sisters’ kids….represent the asuras…then the other sisters kids were Garuda(Vishnu’s vahan aruna, also there is sesh naag(also served Vishnu) I forgot the name of the snake around Shiva’s neck.
So per the story I know…they are all cousins/step brothers….I think they were defined by their deeds(karma). Thus good deeds were the follower of Good…where as bad karma…bad deeds were based on selfish reasons and harmed others for their selfish reasons.
I quit the video when he say Aryans came from some where outside.....
He needs to be educated. He is not the right person...
@Ranveer, you shud be very significant in choosing the right speakers
This all in haphazard. I would ask you Ranveer to request Abhijit Chawda to do a podcast about jews and Jewish religion. I am very curious about similarity and maybe same origins of some Hindus and Jews.
Abhijit chavda must be crying looking at Ranveer jumping over this clowns Aryan invasion theory fantasy.. he spend a whole episode on genetics with Ranveer but nothing was brought up in this discussion
Abhijit chavda is a bakht with zero scientific knowledge, he is not a scientist, most of the things he says are with a hindu agenda. The Aryan migration is a very real thing proven be all the dna tests so far, no one can deny science. Even I have done dna testing, I show roughly 20% genes/dna from Russia and we are from UP India
@@shashankjp88 abhijeeth chavda- the great consipiacy theorist I think you are talking about him
@@ashwinvk4124 so you are a believer of "Aryan Invasion theory" as well I assume. 😂
Please study the recent (after 1980s) historians account, Aryan invasion was replaced with migration 30 years back but the vulnerable session of society still gets influenced easily by this propaganda. Please study and be in touch with latest news from different spectrums and sections, else you will just be an easy fodder for social engineering forces
I don't believe in the aryan invasion theory but Abhijeeth Chavda adds lot of masala otherwise , when he talks please take him with a pinch of salt.
@@ashwinvk4124 dude no one gets fully convinced by 1 individual. People usually listen to various view points and then come to a conclusion. Issue arises when people live in echo chambers and only hear opinions of one section of society.
Abhijit chawda is on social media, so some masala is needed to get views. But his breadth of knowledge and critical thinking needed to attain knowledge out of facts is amazing. This Madrasa chap calls himself an expert and is propagating aryan invasion theory is more dangerous then Abhijeet's masala
In whole history, Buddhism never persecuted people to become Buddhist. If you know any religion.
if shiva is not vedic god then how Yajurveda has Shiva Sankalpa Sukta where each verse ends with shiva sankalpam astu.??
He is not wrong but it is outdated. This interpretation is how early historians looked at the whole Indian civilization. They have a prejudice that Indian civilization was dormant and they chose to ignore some facts because they don't fit into the theory, where as it was a very active civilization. So many of those are debunked and updated now. More is like we need to reinterpret a lot of things, because many new things are coming up. And now they are analyzing and understanding the contents of Vedas, rather than simple objectification.
i think he cannot get rid of his Ashraf(upper caste Muslim) mindset......that Ajlaf(native Indians) are inferior to them......
@@mukulpal8875 I don't think there is any religious aspect to this. Early historians where mostly European so they wrote it from their perspective.
@@bhargavatejasallapalli2861 i said upper caste Muslim......not Muslim....there is difference between both statement i am taking about caste not religion in specific....
@@mukulpal8875 not even caste. It is the view from outsiders. In schools we are taught colonial history. This is also because they couldn't understand us much as it was a different way of living. As how we wouldn't understand how to be a Eyak in Alaska. We just don't understand the culture.
@@bhargavatejasallapalli2861 brother ..he is well educated ....and well informed person.. don't you think he knows well who DNA scientist Dr. Niraj rai (asi )and... Archeologist and prefacer Vasant Sinde are....and what is there point view on Aryan invasion theory is....
It seems so good when he says our religion is same as sanatan dharma. The problem does not lies in the similarities, the problem is in the difference. When a discussion comes to differences, that's where things get exposed and you realise there's nothing as pristine as Sanatan Dharma/ Hinduism. For Eg in all the monotheistic religions the fundamentals thinking is our God is the only true God, and if you don't believe in it you are different from us and as you are not one of us you can't marry with our people can't enter our places of worship etc etc all such rigid thoughts creep in and Parsi religion is no exception. The bottom line is Hinduism cannot be compared with any other religion because apart from positive things of a religion it does not have any negative things when compared to others
But in Hinduism you can't intermarry with different casts, and if you are a lower cast (dalit) you can't even touch or enter in place of worship of brahmin and a lot of stuff.
@@yousriouanes64Bro that was actually a social evil . It has nothing to do with sanatan dharma. Everyone is equal in front of Bhagwan
what about buddhism?
Yeah! We don't eat cow poop, so we are different
The original word was sindhu but because persians didn’t have s they pronounced it hindu and for some reason this foreign way of pronouncing the word became popular. I’m not making this up. That’s what he meant by hindu is persian word.
That is just his inference based on European theory ( theory isn’t fact ) . It is also said the geographical identity we took the himalayas in north and Indhu mahasagar ( hindu mahasagar today or indian ocean ) in south, protected us so HI + Indhu = Hindu .
Infact china is also another old civilisation since ages even today they call indians as indhuo , greeks called us indus and book ‘ indica ‘ written in india .
Hindu is an ancient word that is a sanskrit word and has been mentioned in scriptures.
Choo ti ya tak la
The original word was sindhu but because persians didn’t have s they pronounced it hindu and for some reason this foreign way of pronouncing the word became popular. I’m not making this up search it.
Ling and 100 child in the pots 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@viperopgamingyt4021 poopg gamer🤡
@@viperopgamingyt4021 terrisot spotted
He doesnt know squat. These podcasts are filled with these modern self-styled experts.
Everything he said was correct, go research and see.
History is not learned with logic and evidence not emotion.
@@Realdon1 parsis and indians DONT follow the same religion. Due to migration from Iran, the north is influenced by those ideas for sure, BUT it is not the same religion.
@@cyb-m We can see similarities between all. What he said was both of them belonged to a common Vedic civilization. Who knows.
Religiously radical people will not understand this guy
Right👍
Finally someone said it!
Shakas / sakyas are not huns..Huns are different groups totally...His informations are half baked ranveer..... His informations are not updated...You should call more scholars like srikant talageri and geneticists like neeraj rai to discuss all these...
they are said to be same people why you want to invite hindu nationalist pseudo historians
Because this talk doesn’t suits his narrative.
@@jayd4ever
you want to invite other scholars so that they say what you want to hear
Moshin Khan be like. Mera abba Mughal Iran se tha. Mera abba Mughal mahan tha. Mere abba Irani they. Iran mai zoroastrian tha.
Isiliye mere Muslim abba ne Zoroastrains ko maar k Bhaga diya Persia se aur uska Islamic desh Iran Bana diya.
Nah they came from us .Asura become Ahura because of mispronounciation of "S" to "h".You can see saptah to hafta,same in case of Sindhu to hindu and many more.
Also Zorusthra migrated from Afghanistan and born there in that time .In that time Afghanistan was following Hinduism .
There is one religion called yazidi in iraq & syria similar to zoroastrianism and Hinduism.mostly kurd origin people follow yazidi religion.
Whenever there is an interesting point ..ranveer interrupts in the middle to give the context and that's where the grip of the convo is missing...dude just add the context after the guest completes his explanations... tempo is lost.....especially after your prolonged context setting attempt ..you please keep that short and sharp as well...sorry to say this..just a feed back !!
Raja Raja Chola conquered East.
Gujrati went to Trade on Silk route.
Greeks and Romans came to India.
Samudragupt Chandragupt kaun they?
Isko pakka Hinduism supersitios and backwards lagta hai. Tabhi aisi baatein bolra ye
yes they did come to india and the indus calley were trading
This guy clearly doesn't really believe wat he himself saying..he's not true to himself
Bro, go looking it up, everything he said is correct. Why are some of you getting upset?
In hinduism , yagnas are performed by rishis with utmost respect and shraddha by chanting g Vedic chants . He said, they offered sacrifices in fire to ancestors which is wrong and only on the “thithi “ or death ceremony , ancestors are offered prayers.It’s good to learn new things from podcast but one should not listen with zero knowledge of the subject .
What he was saying Hindu is a modern term comes from Persia !!
And he was making face before saying that. he don't know anything deep about us why he is making his own opinion on us .. why ranveer wasting his time on him.
Agar history kholne gaye na to iske purvajo k bhi baap niklege ham...
What do you mean, he jus talked about Persian culture, and saying its the same as Hindu, whats wrong with that?
Ranveer, please stop interrupting the story by asking questions. Ur show is no longer about your curiosity, it's for all of us viewers. Remember, no questions until the guest stops talking.
Is he explaining Star Wars movies concept?
The fact that many elements of Hinduism came from the Aryans shows how global in approach Sanatan is. Our Ancestors adopted the best practices of worship and philosophy and made them our own.
I have no problem with the Aryan invasion Theory. If at all, it added to an already awesome civilisation and train of thought.
I am more concerned with where WE take it from here......
For his information the archaeologists have found shivling and mother goddess in IVC.
Hey, Don't make similarity between Teachings of Lord Buddha and other missionaries. Propoganda Man
He didn't tell you that hawankund are also found in Indus valley civilization
Congress spokesperson.
😂😂😂Aryan hypothesis nonsense.
Ranveer must call j sai deepak..and Sanjay dixit to his podcast....not historians with outdated knowledge....
@@mukulpal8875 not even outdated but own made up theories to divide people
I love how many of you have fallen into nationalistic sophism. I bet you think Rakhigarhi served to disprove and the migration theory
I bet your claims cannot even be considered a hypothesis. And you have the audacity to talk about AMT (not AIT) which is a "theory"
@@macdog1 1) Rakhigarhi burials dated about 1900 BCE had Vedic and “Aryan” attributes. **But no Steppe DNA was found in those bodies.
2) As per the Aryan migration theory, Aryans came into India about 1500 BCE. But the Vedas talk about Sarasvati (Gaggar-Hakra) as a robust river, which geologists state dried up in 3000 BCE.
You do the math.
The people who should confront him are Praveen Mohan and Dushyant Sridhar
Abhijit Chavda Sir will smoke him raw!
@@shnya9096 So your motive is to destroy his arguments not follow the evidence wherever it leads to?
You already have a presupposition.
Also Abhijit Chavda the same guy who denies the historical existence of Jesus which is even accepted by secular sources but has no problem accepting the historical existence of Ram (not saying Ram did not exist). The same guy who claims Zoroaster is a Hindu-born Prophet, avestan came from Sanskrit, civilisation begin in India, all languages came from sanskrit?
His claims are in stark contrast to global consensus for obvious reasons. The only type of audience who cheer him are hin-du natio-nalists.
I'm Iranian, and he didn't say any lies, why some people upset? Look up what he's saying, and you will see its right.@@indianboy59
Wonderful explanation. I had picked up a copy of rig veda myself and had been studying these things he mentioned for a while. These explanations are very concise and rooted in evidences and systematic study.
9.00 shiva is vedic word / God also as form of Rudra in Yajurveda....The sri Rudram mantra came from vedas.
Sri Rudram
Namakam - Yajur Veda Chapter 16
Om Namo Bhagavate Rudraya
Namaste Rudramanyavautota Ishhave Namah
Namaste Astu Dhanvane Bahubhyamuta Te Namah
Yata Ishhuh Shivatama Shivam Babhuva Te Dhanuh
Shiva Sharavya Ya Tava Taya No Rudra Mridaya
Yaa Te Rudra Shiva Tanu...........goes on
Listen to Rudram from Rig vedha and you'll easily knew that Shiva means rudhra .
An shiiva scholar could elaborate more about his quality as Shiva rudra , eakapathar, sadashivam, parameswara etc
Rudra and shiva were separate deities that were merged into one later on.
This is the best factual video. Am a zarthusti.
HIS STUDY IS NOT ENOUGH ABOUT VEDAS AND PURANA.....MUST STUDY FIRSTBEFORE MAKE ANY STATEMENT ABOUT VEDAS AND PURANAS
True religion never dies ❤jai Sanatanah Dharma ❤😅
makes more sense 👍
Invite him to talk with abhijith chavada
So much hate in comments because of his name. I know , it's hard to swallow for many of you, but it's true, nobody knows the truth , he doesn't either, but I'm just talking about the hate here
he is just an islamist and leftist..............u cannot ask a peaceful about polytheism!!
Its not truth! Hinduism and Akhand Bharat Is! 😂💪🏻
It is not his religion people are hating.. it is what he saying. He is pushing false native... Don't cry Islamophobia when people disagree to his false propaganda
@@dj253 It's a theory and is currently the best explanation for the Indo-European migration to different parts of the world, assimilation and replacement, and linguistic similarities and differences between languages that are spoken or were spoken in Eurasia.
What is your theory?
Notice how this guy used the word Prophet only for Muhammad while taking his name 😂😂 All others are false. Btw Islam is just inverted Judaism.
Judaism Christianity Islam All Are Abrahamic Religion. They All Believe Prophet Ibrahim(Abraham) Is Messenger Of Creator.
The humans lived in the Gangetic plane did not know how to farm and Aryans came and set it fire to creat farmland wow what a theory.
Old school is not interested in Architectural history they still uses Similarities of sounds to fabricate of Imaginary frame work as history. Example Deos and Devas . Yes these terms ate similar that doesnt mean the entire thing will be similar.
It is time these theories by mere linguistics who have no solid evidence to base their theories must be done with . We have modern science of genetics , carbon dating etc we need proofs for what they say .
Such a a clear detailed history,
Thank you jii🙏🙏
There was enormous trade with Greco-Roman World - read Abraham Eraly : "First Spring"
Happy he used Zarathustra and not Zoroaster (Greek/ western pronunciation)
Finally someone who is an actual historian and not some radical Indian Nationalist spreading lies.
Shiva is Dravidian God not Aryan God . No wonder Sadh Guru worship Shiva.
At the end of the day I don’t understand why people are so concerned with whether the Aryans started in India or the Steppe or wherever else like you get bragging rights to be the exact spot where they started 😂. All that matters is that whether you’re Indian, Iranian, from the Steppe, European etc. they are our ancestors and we are one big giant dysfunctional family. This should be something that unites us, not the other way around. Let’s just pray that the highly flawed Academia, East or West, focuses on finding the truth and not and not playing into any political agendas to divide people more than we already are 🙏
Who is the historien ?
There was no Aryans who came to India - the original Vedic civilisation was prevalent across Persia and India
Persia was never vedic. The old Iranian religion which is not even a single religion but a set of beliefs, rituals and practices of people from Iranian ethnicity which was followed in modern day Iran was not Vedic. But it is true that Zoroatrianism began in Modern day Afghanistan and has many elements of vedic religion.
Aryan invasion is not fake. Before they came it was dravidian civilization. Mohenjodaro and harrappa.
Submerged ancient Dwaraka city is more then 10000 years old. ..
Shrimadbhagwat clearly states that King Parikshit's and his followers were banished and sent to Misra (modern day Egypt). So having same culture is only but expected.
As for this Indo European language... About time he stepped out of the left and west propoganda.
how you know misra is egypt
@@jayd4ever cos that is what it is called in Hindi till this day
@@somanibharat why misra for egypt
Egypt is Afro-asiatic not Indo-European.
Zentaavesta ....
zenta : birth , jananam genere
Vestav : agni...thermo...
Birth by agni ..or otherwise
Birth by sun...or otherwise
sun goddess worship.
this is my implication..
Zen and vestav are Saurashtrene linguistic words
in utilization day by day
Two thirds (2/3) of all stars in the night sky with names have Arabic names. and you are saying Islam was not interested in astrology?!
Parsis were part of Hinduism. Because there were sects who were believing in Sun God. "Avastha" is also connected to Sanskrit. Many kings had names connected to Sanskit which the invaders merchents changed according to their convenience.