Dr. Grande did not mention one of the most important aspects to bear hunting that adds weight to support a conviction . . . The hunter must always watch the bear for a long enough time period so he/she is 100% confident that the bear is not a sow with a cub or cubs following along behind her. Every bear hunter knows this and it is the law.
Oh, just this one would be enough to convict her. Add to it the life insurance aspect and his brother moving in and we have it very clear that it was murder.
I agree. The nutcase got away with it. My brother has bipolar and I would never sleep under the same roof as him. One of the most angry people I've ever known and for the smallest of things.
"I think that one could argue that very few bears wear navy blue coveralls. Usually, people who wear coveralls have physically demanding jobs, and most bears are unemployed." The deadpan, serious tone during that delivery made this one of the funniest things I've ever heard. After watching many of your videos and gaining some grasp of your sense of humor, I was still pleasantly surprised that you managed to make this so funny. You are a gem. Your success is well-deserved.
😂😂😂 Your comment made me laugh!! And so true! This story is horrific... but hilarious. Sad she got away with it. Karma will come.... oh yeah it did a bit... via the babysitter!
It's possible to be mistaken for animals, my neighbor says his wife looks like a damned wildebeest after being married since 1989, and before that she was a Gazelle, but then he says in her defense, he himself was once a strong young buck and now he is a dumpy old walrus.
I think it’s likely she killed him on purpose. I have seen a bear, in the dark and in daylight. They don’t look a bit like a person, unless you could argue it was so dark Mary Beth could only see a misshapen lump. In which case, she should never have fired, and a human sized misshapen lump looks nothing like a bear anyway. Thanks for covering this Dr. Grande.
Even a misshapen lump doesn't add up because on all fours it's short and wide as a car. When it's on 2 legs it's tall like the predator (unless it's a smaller bear).
I've never seen a bear in the wild, we don't have them in my country. But there's really nothing much in nature anywhere that looks like a human running around either and if you're hanging out with people that shoot at 'movement', its a good time to stop being anywhere near them!
I have an aversion to hunters who do it for sport and not for survival. This is a story of adultery and trading partners like musical chairs. Mark leaves his partner of 12-years for Mary. Mary's brother-in-law lags behind as Mark is mistaken for a bear. Mary shoots and kills Mark dead. The brother-in-law then moves in with Mary and Mary collects a lot of insurance money. I feel this could have been planned by both Mark's brother and Mary! I don't think she mistook him for a bear. As the grand finale Marks brother eventually dumps Mary for the babysitter. This convoluted story is almost too much to bear. lol I think Mark's murder was a set-up!
I agree. After living with Marybeth for a time, Mark's brother, Barry realized that living with a murderer wasn't a good plan and that the Babysitter was a much better option. He couldn't expose her to the authorities because she would do the same back to him. They had planned Mark's murder together.
Depends on the state & season. We have a spring bear season & I don't think you have to wear orange then. We don't have to wear orange during archery season either. During the fall hunt, when everybody is rifle hunting for deer & elk, you have to wear orange
It depends on many variables. Blaze orange is usually associated with deer and pheasant. However it would be near impossible to hunt turkey with orange
I’ll never understand why a hunter would ever discharge their firearm if they don’t have an unquestionable and clear view of their target. If you’re not absolutely sure of what you’re shooting at, don’t do it. My uncle was shot and killed while out deer hunting. He was found propped up against a tree trunk. It was awful.
Still have no idea why folks don't use high vis orange camo. Bright to humans, blends in with a breakup background to most prey. Even my hunting and tracking/detection dogs wear hunter orange and reflective body armor.
This case certainly makes us reflect on the current situation of mental health treatment and gun ownership. That’s an important conversation to have. Thank you for sharing your thoughts on this case, Dr. Grande.❤
I do not think she is guilty. Lots of hearsay evidence not admissible in court and needed for an guilty verdict. No mention of her mental state at the time of shooting. Was she taking the medication? Could have been hypomanic. Dx? Why did the husband increase his life insurance. Her behaviour after the shooting suggests prepsychosi with paranoia. The role of the brother is unclear. Is it a good idea to leave this woman alone with young children? Why on earth would a person with potentially severe mental è à illness be allowed to carry a gun, at least should be accompanied. Seems too many Americans love their guns.
That's wild! So you think someone who's been in a mental institution, is bi-polar, has anger issues.................shouldnt have free access to guns? The NRA and the GOP would hang you by the yard arms for saying that. EVERYBODY should have guns, 30 maybe 40 guns is bare minimum. More is better always. If things go bad, they have their guns.
A 30.06 is nothing like a shot gun. A 30.06 round might make a 1" hole going in you, but would leave a huge hole going out the backside. Very powerful rifle.
"Most bears are unemployed." "Most showerheads are non-lethal." These are just a couple of examples of the pearls of wisdom one may gather from Dr. Grande.
I can't believe this! This horrible woman committed a murder and not only got away with it, but got rewarded with all that money. I can only hope that the only bit of justice in this is that the hubby ( poor marks brother) ran off with the babysitter. A person as narcissistic as her would be beyond devastated from that, I hope it kills her knowing it. She needs some sort of punishment!
I've owned several Weatherby rifles in addition to dozens of others, and spent a lot of time hunting bears. It's virtually incomprehensible to me how that could have been an accident. Occasionally, hunters shoot others, but it's always in deep woods where only a nervous glance of the target is obtained. But none of that applies here. Plus she was seasoned hunter and shooter.
You'd think they would've fought the claim harder and dug deeper into the alleged "accident." Insurance companies know better than anyone when claims smell suspicious and will investigate thoroughly, to avoid paying out large sums to scammers.
@@Locutus The case was suspicious enough its surprising the insurance company couldn't find some fine print or technicality in the policy to avoid paying her. I thought their own policy/review process is independent from legal outcomes, at least partly.
@@Locutus Well before she was tried in court, I would have thought the insurance company might have dug up more incriminating evidence about her which would help the case. They have greater resources than the public police (limited manpower etc. to spend on just one case). It's a large amount for the company to just pay out, if they strongly suspect it's fraud.
@@vikramgupta2326 I guess there was nothing in the fine print that the company could use here. But I just thought the company, with their money to pay for top notch investigators who can put in way more time and effort than the police (it's only one case among many for the police) might have dug up more information.
Dr. Grande. You explained this in great detail. What I gathered is If a person handling a rifle shoots there husband than says oh I thought that was a bear. Give me a break. She was smart enough to play dumb.
Lord Jesus. I'm bipolar and that's exactly why my husband's guns are not where I could immediately access them. I've been stable for a long time, but that's just too easy a way to harm myself or others.
I have BP so I understand how blessed you are to have a supportive husband. I’ve met many husbands who divorce their wives once they find out she has any type of mental illness (I.e. depression, BP). There are many BPs, such as myself, who spend much money to take care of self & be good to the people around me. I am sick of the Kanye Wests who continually use their BP to get a pass for their atrocious behavior. And yes, Mary Beth Harshbarger should be in jail. I wish there were more Deidre Westovers in the world who are responsible enough to know what they can or cannot do as a person with BP.
My hubby won't allow his schizophrenic younger brother on our 50 foot sailboat. The sailboat books that he read warned against allowing people with psychological problems to sail. It could turn fatal if they get unstable , very unsafe to everyone on board!
"hey Mark....whats up." "im going hunting with my mentally unstable wife" "nice knowing you buddy." of course she murdered him, she didnt plan it, but she took the opportunity when it revealed itself. if it hadn't happened then it would have happened the moment she thought she could get away with it. i also somehow believe that the "relationship" with the victims brother was already in place. ps: bears are self employed.
My God man!! I laughed and laughed. 😂😂🤣🤣 It’s that droll wit, the timing and delivery I look forward to! Add your particular cadence and body language and it equals comedy gold. All the best to you and yours. And, as always, thanks for the video. 🙂❤️
I live in Newfoundland and I’m not surprised on the judge’s decision. Our criminal justice system is a joke, especially in rural areas like Grand Falls
IMO, the circumstances leading up to Mark’s death is highly suspicious. I think one of the two following things happened: 1. Beth and Mark’s brother, Barry, conspired together for Mark to be killed on the trip, then Beth would receive the money from the newly increased life insurance policy on Mark’s death, and then Beth and Barry would get together…or… 2. Beth alone decided that she would kill Mark on that trip, and then Beth would receive the money from the newly increased life insurance policy on Mark’s death. Too many things made it unlikely that it was an accident: -Beth and Mark were not getting along and Beth was mad at Mark. -Mark had made the comment to someone about how Beth could kill him and, if she did it, it would be quick. -Beth was bipolar, was quick to anger, and was disliked by many of Mike’s family. -Beth had a history of previously attacking someone physically. -Beth was angry with Mark over having to check into a mental treatment facility voluntarily. -Beth was proficient with firearms and hunting and knew when to shoot and when not to shoot at animals. -Beth had knowledge of what a bear looks like. -Beth knew not to shoot at an object not yet identified and/or at night when something could not be seen. -Mark’s life insurance policy had recently been increased.
@@vikramgupta2326 Nah. It's worked for me for years. I got a burglar once with a 9 mm pistol. And I've only killed 3 neighbors, 1 child, a sister, and a mother-in-law I didn't really much care for. Then there was the time I shot Dad with a 12 gauge high-velocity slug. Big mistake, I admit it. Dad lost his head, the wall behind him blew out, and I ended up with a walk-through bathroom.
The life insurance increase is suspicious. I think she would have “accidentally“ shot her husband at another time if she didn’t get him on this trip. It would be helpful to know whose idea was the hunting trip and I wonder if the police considered the guide might have been bribed to pretend to stop to pee in the woods, therefore letting the husband go on alone. Any way you look at it, she should have done some jail time.
Well no one needs to kill a bear or a moose just because they can. The dark shadowy figure she saw was her reflection when she looked in the mirror everyday. But judging by the pictures I looked at Mary Beth was the bear in that animal killing circus.
My BFF is horrifically bi-polar. She's the sweetest person you'll ever meet and certainly not argumentative or aggressive and when she does need to be hospitalised or go into respite, she's happy to do so as she knows they need to readjust her meds. She manages to work as well, though she's had a lot of work time off lately. Mary Beth's guilty, I think. Her character is a problem when it comes to her being difficult to get along with, not her bi-polar. And Barry is a completely awful person. Mark never looked happy in those photos either. Interesting take Dr G. I'm suss that she did it, but I see what you mean.
Definitely one bad explosive relationship! I know there's numerous arguments to the contrary, but I will never understand hunting and especially hunting bears. My experiences with bears are all positive and these have been cute and fun as it usually involves playful cubs, but I really do not get hunting bears.................
I think that hunters should be allowed to go to giant hunting parks and be allowed to hunt each other. This would get rid of a lot of violent people who like to kill things.
@@sevengramrocks2746 It would get rid of violent humans and improve wild food source for hunters. I think it's a wonderful idea. So is not wearing a mask or not getting vaccinated during a pandemic. Did you know that it appears from statistics that Republicans died of Covid at a rate of 5 to 1 during the worst parts of the pandemic. Some say that it may have even affected the mid terms. The question is: Did they die from poor medical advice or from worshipping the Beast?
I find the involuntary conversation coercive usually. I’ve had a number of people who did not qualify for inpatient care come to the facility because the doctor was going to 302 them if they didn’t sign voluntarily. I get it. We need to keep them safe, as well as the public. I don’t care for this arrangement though. If they are a 302 and have demonstrated themselves as a threat, then use the system put in place to protect them and others.
I dunno. I've seen a bear with a green hat, shirt collar and green tie before. But he was indeed unemployed. He just went around stealing picnic baskets.
Great video, Dr. Grande! I'm cracking up at your jokes about bears, especially about how most bears are unemployed. 🤣 I didn't know that the system allows folks to sidestep having their gun ownership halted (e.g., beign asked if they want to be voluntarily committed vs. involuntarily). That's so bizarre to me!
Kind of a compromise lobbyists made with legislatures. "Ok, if they are crazy, but won't admit it, we won't sell them a gun as long as some authority knows they are crazy. However, if they admit they are crazy we can sell them all the guns we can."
If I were over there, in that landmass, and I wanted to kill somebody - it's exactly what I'd do. Where, on earth, else would somebody be able to stand in court and say that they shot somebody thinking they were a bear? The odds for getting away with minimal repercussions are good. Better than they should be. Shoot a person thinking they were an animal? Judge is nodding and saying, "Well, it can happen to the best of us." It's a wonderful loophole in a country where shooting animals is enshrined and a protected right. Give them a gun. Send them off to bag some wildlife. Oopsy! You work with what you've got ;) . Over in the UK we've got car 'accidents' and cliff top misadventures. Want to get dealt with leniently for killing a person in the UK - keep driving near to where they live and keep the fingers crossed. I've got my suspicions that there is a horrible Sawny Bean type clan trying to 'get' me in such a way.
I need Dr. Grande to analyze Dr. Grande. I don’t need him to diagnose him, just speculate on what could be happening with a Licensed Counselor of Mental Health covering tragic cases publicly with such a dry sense of humor lol.
Bears in the woods don't walk or act or look or sound like people. How could she? Then bamboozle the court? In front of the kids. Was she stable ? Psychotic? Off her meds?
I have less than zero sympathy for any human who wants to kill an animal. I can't even imagine wanting to do that. The murder and all of the circumstances and details aside, the only thing I can't get past is that these people wanted to kill animals and that makes them demented and Insane as far as I'm concerned. The rest of it is their own damn karma. I will say the children didn't deserve it and hopefully have survived emotionally unscathed, though I doubt that
@@sbrooke210 Nope no death metal can't understand a word they're saying, but yeah we all have guns out here in the sticks, thought only citidots didn't have guns
😂 ..."I'm starting to question if the lodge owner has ever seen a bear" Yeah, blue coveralls and a 3 day old beard...sure screams bear to me. 😂 Every video you put out ends up making me laugh with your humor. I look forward to your videos every day!! ❤️
An example of an ability to shoot a firearm call emselves “hunters” but incapable of recognizing the target animal- she is a perfect example of a person who should not have firearms- she failed to follow the basic safety and hunting rules, a bipolar diagnosis should also prohibit firearm possession.
Liars and rifles and bears, oh my! Had to chuckle at your doubts regarding bearlike features identified by the hunting lodge owner. Thanks for the video.
They could never prove beyond a reasonable doubt unless she messaged someone about it or wrote something down about it. Unfortunately mark put himself in a bad situation with someone he didn't feel safe around
Hi.Great show. i live not far from that family, here in PA & it was all over the news here for ages. Despite the pro gun rights & obvious slaNT OH HER 'LOVE OF THE OUTDOORS'(KILLING THINGS) & cLEAR oMISSION OF HER MENTAL CONDITION...WHICH WAS nO sECRET AS SHE WAS ALWAYS IN SOMEBODY'S FACE FOR UPSETTING HER ONE WAY OR ANOTHER...opinions were polarized...they were gun & kill happy...she was exceptionally pretty, and flirtatious...& besides that guys around here are drawn to women who love guns. So...she was Always allowed any infractions she desired to commit, including having custody of children in her Known Dangerous mental state... I am Firmly convinced she was misdiagnosed....she actually displayed Psychotic characteristics not BiPolar...there is a big difference between those mental issues. But..this is Good Ole Boy territory & the Letter of the Law is viewed as more of a suggestive guideline rather than..well..The Law. Besides that lil factoid..did i mention she was very pretty & flirtatious? Another thing Wrong with the case...it Leaps out to me that she knew the Insurance phone numbers off the top of her head..Fascinating, especially considering it had just been Radically increased...& she immediately began a relationship with hubby's brother... All are screeching red flags of spousal murder. It is Not hard to co-ordinate a hunting trip...and a murder scene with such easy loopholes such as this one. They obviously chose that area knowing the case would not be handled properly & they would get away with it...the guide was probably paid or threatened to hang back... The fact the brother ran off with the nanny while she was institutionalized is hilarious poetic justice...but for one thing...i believe he was Very complicit in his brothers death...and is now in the wind...to do it again. aS IS SHE. Apologies...this keyboard has it's own mind...
Dr. Grande did not mention one of the most important aspects to bear hunting that adds weight to support a conviction . . . The hunter must always watch the bear for a long enough time period so he/she is 100% confident that the bear is not a sow with a cub or cubs following along behind her. Every bear hunter knows this and it is the law.
The judge must have not known this.
Thanks, that is the final nail.
Also: why shoot before you are sure unless the „bear“ is attacking and there is immediate danger?
Oh, just this one would be enough to convict her. Add to it the life insurance aspect and his brother moving in and we have it very clear that it was murder.
Who cares about the bear law, ain’t no fucking way in her she confused him for a bear 25 min after sunset. She planned this she should rot in jail.
Raising the life insurance so soon before the shooting and hooking up with Barry so soon after makes me think murder.
I agree that it arouses suspicion but it doesn't satisfy the threshold of beyond a reasonable doubt.
I agree. The nutcase got away with it. My brother has bipolar and I would never sleep under the same roof as him. One of the most angry people I've ever known and for the smallest of things.
Agreed
What kind of a man falls for a creature like her?
He farted it.
"I think that one could argue that very few bears wear navy blue coveralls. Usually, people who wear coveralls have physically demanding jobs, and most bears are unemployed."
The deadpan, serious tone during that delivery made this one of the funniest things I've ever heard. After watching many of your videos and gaining some grasp of your sense of humor, I was still pleasantly surprised that you managed to make this so funny. You are a gem. Your success is well-deserved.
😂😂😂 Your comment made me laugh!! And so true! This story is horrific... but hilarious. Sad she got away with it. Karma will come.... oh yeah it did a bit... via the babysitter!
So very true! I find myself getting addicted to Dr. Grande's videos😂❤❤
Because she increased the life insurance, it makes me believe she is guilty.
She wasn't a hottie, I'm surprised that everyone wanted her so bad..she must swallow
That and she knew the number off the top of her head. Not even half a year later husband is dead, she was just waiting for for perfect opportunity.
I support the right to arm bears.
It's possible to be mistaken for animals, my neighbor says his wife looks like a damned wildebeest after being married since 1989, and before that she was a Gazelle, but then he says in her defense, he himself was once a strong young buck and now he is a dumpy old walrus.
thou are so funny
Perhaps it's his wife's bush that looks like a damned wildebeest?
U describe my. sis? But last I saw she was still looking attractive has many fooled by charm
:) Brill!
Lol Funny!
This was murder. Sickening she got away with it.
Looks like murder, yes sir
AND she got paid by HIM for it afterward!
This is indeed sickening. I'm almost at a loss...
@Meka02 never open a life insurance policy under yourself while married, all assets get burned after death.
@@gsalazar8176 Agreed.
@@Monikamusic02officialidiots should have had her locked up !!
Their relationship seems to have been totally unbearable. Thanks Dr. Grande, have a great week speculating and not diagnosing.
You beat me to it, Ray!😂
Wait. Marybeth is in a camper with a pre schooler and infant hunting wild animals. They're all nuts.
Also firing a gun from a vehicle on a road. I thought this was generally illegal. Maybe not in the back woods of Newfoundland.
She was diagnosed Bi-Polar who had spent time in a mental hospital so she could continue owning guns.
@DEASAR23 They didn't drive camper vans
And don’t forget Mary use to be a man… Eddie Charles Kinter. The whole family sounds like a soap opera
@@meganmassey2017what??? She had a child
I think it’s likely she killed him on purpose. I have seen a bear, in the dark and in daylight. They don’t look a bit like a person, unless you could argue it was so dark Mary Beth could only see a misshapen lump. In which case, she should never have fired, and a human sized misshapen lump looks nothing like a bear anyway. Thanks for covering this Dr. Grande.
Even a misshapen lump doesn't add up because on all fours it's short and wide as a car. When it's on 2 legs it's tall like the predator (unless it's a smaller bear).
I've never seen a bear in the wild, we don't have them in my country. But there's really nothing much in nature anywhere that looks like a human running around either and if you're hanging out with people that shoot at 'movement', its a good time to stop being anywhere near them!
A bear ran in front of my car a few months ago, and there was definitely no question that it was a bear. They are quite round and fluffy.
Experienced and responsible shooters and hunters would never make such an error. She was likely IQ deficient or a clever murderer.
@@DeidresStuff
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Unstable person who loves guns never ends well
most emphatic and intelligent bicoastal comment
And it seems unstable people always have children!
@@shawnaweesner3759 like 5 children usually
@@jameshill3403 always a lot of them. Like last of us cordecepts. ...like they are purposely trying to spread.
@@shawnaweesner3759…and guns
I have an aversion to hunters who do it for sport and not for survival. This is a story of adultery and trading partners like musical chairs. Mark leaves his partner of 12-years for Mary. Mary's brother-in-law lags behind as Mark is mistaken for a bear. Mary shoots and kills Mark dead. The brother-in-law then moves in with Mary and Mary collects a lot of insurance money. I feel this could have been planned by both Mark's brother and Mary! I don't think she mistook him for a bear. As the grand finale Marks brother eventually dumps Mary for the babysitter. This convoluted story is almost too much to bear. lol I think Mark's murder was a set-up!
DF - I see what you did there. 🐻
I can bearly stand it!
I agree. After living with Marybeth for a time, Mark's brother, Barry realized that living with a murderer wasn't a good plan and that the Babysitter was a much better option. He couldn't expose her to the authorities because she would do the same back to him. They had planned Mark's murder together.
@@bthomson 🙂
@@captainamerica6525 Lol
Aren't you supposed to wear BRIGHT orange clothing when hunting? She was lucky not to have to wear an orange prison outfit!
Yes, you should never wear your fluffy, faux fur coat that your wife gave you for Christmas. Especially the brown one.
Wow
Canadians rarely convict anyone and if they do it's a slap on the wrist.
Depends on the state & season. We have a spring bear season & I don't think you have to wear orange then. We don't have to wear orange during archery season either. During the fall hunt, when everybody is rifle hunting for deer & elk, you have to wear orange
It depends on many variables. Blaze orange is usually associated with deer and pheasant. However it would be near impossible to hunt turkey with orange
I’ll never understand why a hunter would ever discharge their firearm if they don’t have an unquestionable and clear view of their target. If you’re not absolutely sure of what you’re shooting at, don’t do it. My uncle was shot and killed while out deer hunting. He was found propped up against a tree trunk. It was awful.
I can almost hear her saying "I'm sorry. I was scared and didn't know what to do" - while fake crying
Still have no idea why folks don't use high vis orange camo. Bright to humans, blends in with a breakup background to most prey.
Even my hunting and tracking/detection dogs wear hunter orange and reflective body armor.
I had a good friend age 20 get shot by a hunter. He died, same way. After several months the hunter came forward.
@@csc8697so sad, how does that even happen!
Unquestionable is subjective. THEY don't question it. They don't question their own opinions.
"I thought that the person that I shot was a bear".
WOW!! That is a water-tight defense for the murder trial!
This case certainly makes us reflect on the current situation of mental health treatment and gun ownership. That’s an important conversation to have.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts on this case, Dr. Grande.❤
That wld.mean no cops cld.have guns..
I do not think she is guilty. Lots of hearsay evidence not admissible in court and needed for an guilty verdict.
No mention of her mental state at the time of shooting. Was she taking the medication? Could have been hypomanic. Dx? Why did the husband increase his life insurance. Her behaviour after the shooting suggests prepsychosi
with paranoia.
The role of the brother is unclear. Is it a good idea to leave this woman alone with young children?
Why on earth would a person with potentially severe mental è
à illness be allowed to carry a gun, at least should be accompanied. Seems too many Americans love their guns.
That's wild! So you think someone who's been in a mental institution, is bi-polar, has anger issues.................shouldnt have free access to guns? The NRA and the GOP would hang you by the yard arms for saying that.
EVERYBODY should have guns, 30 maybe 40 guns is bare minimum. More is better always.
If things go bad, they have their guns.
I wonder what the judge in Canada would've said if she had claimed she thought she was shooting at a Sasquatch.
Attempted murder.
Sasquatch are fair game in BC, but they are so very very sneaky . . . I've seen many but never long enough to get a good shot off.
Frightening that a spouse thinks the best alternative to ending a marriage is a shot gun. Obviously she is a psychopath.
Best alternative if you want them gone and come into money.
Technically, rifle.
she's not a psychopath, just a woman
Damn shot gun weddings!
A 30.06 is nothing like a shot gun. A 30.06 round might make a 1" hole going in you, but would leave a huge hole going out the backside. Very powerful rifle.
"Most bears are unemployed."
"Most showerheads are non-lethal."
These are just a couple of examples of the pearls of wisdom one may gather from Dr. Grande.
Very few bears.......
I can't believe this! This horrible woman committed a murder and not only got away with it, but got rewarded with all that money. I can only hope that the only bit of justice in this is that the hubby ( poor marks brother) ran off with the babysitter. A person as narcissistic as her would be beyond devastated from that, I hope it kills her knowing it. She needs some sort of punishment!
If not in this world than surely in the next.
The twists and turns in her love life were almost more shocking than the case itself 😂
This story could be foreseen when she was shooting in her wedding dress. Crazy!! Live by the gun, die by the gun.
I've owned several Weatherby rifles in addition to dozens of others, and spent a lot of time hunting bears. It's virtually incomprehensible to me how that could have been an accident. Occasionally, hunters shoot others, but it's always in deep woods where only a nervous glance of the target is obtained. But none of that applies here. Plus she was seasoned hunter and shooter.
fair points
“I’m loading my Weatherby.” - Isbell
I can't believe the insurance company paid the claim.
You'd think they would've fought the claim harder and dug deeper into the alleged "accident." Insurance companies know better than anyone when claims smell suspicious and will investigate thoroughly, to avoid paying out large sums to scammers.
She went to court, won her case. What more can the insurance company do?
@@Locutus The case was suspicious enough its surprising the insurance company couldn't find some fine print or technicality in the policy to avoid paying her. I thought their own policy/review process is independent from legal outcomes, at least partly.
@@Locutus Well before she was tried in court, I would have thought the insurance company might have dug up more incriminating evidence about her which would help the case. They have greater resources than the public police (limited manpower etc. to spend on just one case). It's a large amount for the company to just pay out, if they strongly suspect it's fraud.
@@vikramgupta2326 I guess there was nothing in the fine print that the company could use here. But I just thought the company, with their money to pay for top notch investigators who can put in way more time and effort than the police (it's only one case among many for the police) might have dug up more information.
Dr. Grande. You explained this in great detail. What I gathered is If a person handling a rifle shoots there husband than says oh I thought that was a bear. Give me a break. She was smart enough to play dumb.
“Most bears are unemployed!” Is HILARIOUS! Thank you for the laugh Dr. Grande
Lord Jesus. I'm bipolar and that's exactly why my husband's guns are not where I could immediately access them. I've been stable for a long time, but that's just too easy a way to harm myself or others.
Man…get rid of them.
@@rubyoro0 they're in another house altogether. I don't even know where in that house.
I have BP so I understand how blessed you are to have a supportive husband. I’ve met many husbands who divorce their wives once they find out she has any type of mental illness (I.e. depression, BP). There are many BPs, such as myself, who spend much money to take care of self & be good to the people around me. I am sick of the Kanye Wests who continually use their BP to get a pass for their atrocious behavior. And yes, Mary Beth Harshbarger should be in jail. I wish there were more Deidre Westovers in the world who are responsible enough to know what they can or cannot do as a person with BP.
I FINALLY DISAGREE!!! She murdered him so that she could be with the brother. And she cashed in the life insurance
I dunno about you guys, but I wouldn't be going shooting with someone diagnosed with bipolar, seems like a serious hazard
words to live by
Lol you don't understand bipolar. As long as it's not an episode and medicated
@@TheFaro2011 Rolling my eyes.
@@TheFaro2011 And you can PREDICT the episode? And KNOW for SURE that one is not coming while she has a gun?
My hubby won't allow his schizophrenic younger brother on our 50 foot sailboat. The sailboat books that he read warned against allowing people with psychological problems to sail. It could turn fatal if they get unstable , very unsafe to everyone on board!
For someone who was an avid hunter, none of this story makes sense at all. She is guilty.
A whole new meaning to a ‘shotgun wedding’ 😮
Lol
I remember seeing two bear cross a road in broad daylight, and my first rather illogical thought was, "Oh, it's two guys in bear suits."
I heard this case on another channel. She was guilty & very cold, what a weird wedding picture 🖼 😑🐻Loved your points for us as usual. Thanks Dr G😊💌💌
"hey Mark....whats up."
"im going hunting with my mentally unstable wife"
"nice knowing you buddy."
of course she murdered him, she didnt plan it, but she took the opportunity when it revealed itself.
if it hadn't happened then it would have happened the moment she thought she could get away with it.
i also somehow believe that the "relationship" with the victims brother was already in place.
ps: bears are self employed.
I heard that Mary Beth was hired as the new Armorer for the movie Rust.
🤣🤣
The Shotgun Wedding pic was freaky. Nothing normal going on with these two.
The bear that Mark killed must be cracking up in bear heaven.
My God man!! I laughed and laughed. 😂😂🤣🤣
It’s that droll wit, the timing and delivery I look forward to! Add your particular cadence and body language and it equals comedy gold. All the best to you and yours. And, as always, thanks for the video. 🙂❤️
I already got the Intel ARC A770 already.
"...most bears are unemployed." Dr Grande, you're the best!
“If it’s a bear, great
If it’s my husband, that’s ok too” 😂😂
Her husband definitely was not 'smarter than the average bear'
He didn't know when to flee. Her anger may have burned hot. Enough to get revenge.
You’re right, BooBoo 🐻
@@minnietrout814 😂
I live in Newfoundland and I’m not surprised on the judge’s decision. Our criminal justice system is a joke, especially in rural areas like Grand Falls
“And most bears are unemployed “ 🤣🤣 I love your humor.
Thank god they had a guide with them otherwise something bad might have happened.
😂😂😂
Bear hunting in Canada often involves a bait station with stale donuts, bacon grease, bread, etc.
Very unsporting & cowardly...
This relationship was a mess since the beginning. And it ended a mess with the help of a two timing BIL. This case is messed up.
I was not expecting the "Most bears are unemployed" observation 😂
And yet...
It sounds like the guide should have something to answer for by creating this dangerous situation in the first place.
Something fishy about the fn thing...🙄
I agree. If this was truly an accident, the guide could have been the victim just as easily.
No vest and walking back in the dark...maybe she had a deal with the guide too?
IMO, the circumstances leading up to Mark’s death is highly suspicious. I think one of the two following things happened:
1. Beth and Mark’s brother, Barry, conspired together for Mark to be killed on the trip, then Beth would receive the money from the newly increased life insurance policy on Mark’s death, and then Beth and Barry would get together…or…
2. Beth alone decided that she would kill Mark on that trip, and then Beth would receive the money from the newly increased life insurance policy on Mark’s death.
Too many things made it unlikely that it was an accident:
-Beth and Mark were not getting along and Beth was mad at Mark.
-Mark had made the comment to someone about how Beth could kill him and, if she did it, it would be quick.
-Beth was bipolar, was quick to anger, and was disliked by many of Mike’s family.
-Beth had a history of previously attacking someone physically.
-Beth was angry with Mark over having to check into a mental treatment facility voluntarily.
-Beth was proficient with firearms and hunting and knew when to shoot and when not to shoot at animals.
-Beth had knowledge of what a bear looks like.
-Beth knew not to shoot at an object not yet identified and/or at night when something could not be seen.
-Mark’s life insurance policy had recently been increased.
It does sound negligent with the firearm. Shooting in the dark is reckless (in my humble opinion) unless it is self-defense. Thank you 🤔❤🇺🇸
in your correct opinion
Even in self defense it can be negligent if you haven't identified the target.
@@vikramgupta2326 Nah. It's worked for me for years. I got a burglar once with a 9 mm pistol. And I've only killed 3 neighbors, 1 child, a sister, and a mother-in-law I didn't really much care for. Then there was the time I shot Dad with a 12 gauge high-velocity slug. Big mistake, I admit it. Dad lost his head, the wall behind him blew out, and I ended up with a walk-through bathroom.
@Mooseguy1 Hey man, I'd like to invite you to my mother in-laws house. 🙂
The life insurance increase is suspicious. I think she would have “accidentally“ shot her husband at another time if she didn’t get him on this trip. It would be helpful to know whose idea was the hunting trip and I wonder if the police considered the guide might have been bribed to pretend to stop to pee in the woods, therefore letting the husband go on alone. Any way you look at it, she should have done some jail time.
Yes, I wondered too if maybe she bribed the guide with 50 to 100 grand or something. We'll never know.
Well no one needs to kill a bear or a moose just because they can. The dark shadowy figure she saw was her reflection when she looked in the mirror everyday. But judging by the pictures I looked at Mary Beth was the bear in that animal killing circus.
My BFF is horrifically bi-polar. She's the sweetest person you'll ever meet and certainly not argumentative or aggressive and when she does need to be hospitalised or go into respite, she's happy to do so as she knows they need to readjust her meds. She manages to work as well, though she's had a lot of work time off lately. Mary Beth's guilty, I think. Her character is a problem when it comes to her being difficult to get along with, not her bi-polar. And Barry is a completely awful person. Mark never looked happy in those photos either. Interesting take Dr G. I'm suss that she did it, but I see what you mean.
Definitely one bad explosive relationship! I know there's numerous arguments to the contrary, but I will never understand hunting and especially hunting bears. My experiences with bears are all positive and these have been cute and fun as it usually involves playful cubs, but I really do not get hunting bears.................
Thank you!!! I will never understand hunting at all!
I considered shaving off the entirety of my body hair while dating my psycho ex, just in case she mistook me for a wild animal.
I will never reconcile with my sis cause I know what she capable of I will forgive but never trust like a den of cobras
@@donnaparks1919 hope you find peace in that decision. I know exactly what that’s like.
Why are you men attracted to women like this? Men b¡tch about psycho women like her but they ALWAYS fall for them. Puzzling
I need the truth be out I'm just afraid to be the one to do it but this got to end.
@@alexpopowski1318 what sis D did to mom was no accident.
I saw a bear wearing blue coveralls at Build a Bear, so not that unusual.
Buying stuff is a characteristic of the bi-polar condition. It’s emotionally exhausting to deal with
Never heard of this. I totally agree with you Dr. Grande. I couldn't have summed it up any better
I really can stand this culture of killing animals for your own pleasure.
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I think that hunters should be allowed to go to giant hunting parks and be allowed to hunt each other. This would get rid of a lot of violent people who like to kill things.
Says the person with the violent idea… lmao
Most hunters do with the eat not for sport
@@sevengramrocks2746 It would get rid of violent humans and improve wild food source for hunters. I think it's a wonderful idea. So is not wearing a mask or not getting vaccinated during a pandemic. Did you know that it appears from statistics that Republicans died of Covid at a rate of 5 to 1 during the worst parts of the pandemic. Some say that it may have even affected the mid terms. The question is: Did they die from poor medical advice or from worshipping the Beast?
@@CapnWack The hunters could make their human kills a delicacy. That's the way they are. They like to hunt, hurt, kill, and devour their prey.
@@zebeart8808 🤣🤣🤣 Source?
She got away with the most obvious murder. I think she did not plan it, but saw an opportunity.
I find the involuntary conversation coercive usually. I’ve had a number of people who did not qualify for inpatient care come to the facility because the doctor was going to 302 them if they didn’t sign voluntarily. I get it. We need to keep them safe, as well as the public. I don’t care for this arrangement though. If they are a 302 and have demonstrated themselves as a threat, then use the system put in place to protect them and others.
Again, a very astute analysis! I am slowly becoming a fan.
Why slowly
Dr grande is excellent
Just when you think that the police in America are terrible.....here comes Canada 🤣🤣🤣 Horrible police work.
I dunno. I've seen a bear with a green hat, shirt collar and green tie before. But he was indeed unemployed. He just went around stealing picnic baskets.
Great video, Dr. Grande! I'm cracking up at your jokes about bears, especially about how most bears are unemployed. 🤣 I didn't know that the system allows folks to sidestep having their gun ownership halted (e.g., beign asked if they want to be voluntarily committed vs. involuntarily). That's so bizarre to me!
Kind of a compromise lobbyists made with legislatures. "Ok, if they are crazy, but won't admit it, we won't sell them a gun as long as some authority knows they are crazy. However, if they admit they are crazy we can sell them all the guns we can."
Ridiculous, imo she’s OBVIOUSLY guilty of murder and should have been put away.
Dr. Grande, your humorous analysis is just too much to bear.
What a srupid claim for murdering someone. She's evil.
If I were over there, in that landmass, and I wanted to kill somebody - it's exactly what I'd do. Where, on earth, else would somebody be able to stand in court and say that they shot somebody thinking they were a bear? The odds for getting away with minimal repercussions are good. Better than they should be. Shoot a person thinking they were an animal? Judge is nodding and saying, "Well, it can happen to the best of us." It's a wonderful loophole in a country where shooting animals is enshrined and a protected right. Give them a gun. Send them off to bag some wildlife. Oopsy! You work with what you've got ;) . Over in the UK we've got car 'accidents' and cliff top misadventures. Want to get dealt with leniently for killing a person in the UK - keep driving near to where they live and keep the fingers crossed. I've got my suspicions that there is a horrible Sawny Bean type clan trying to 'get' me in such a way.
Another stellar Canadian court ruling. Give her a daytime talk show with Karla Holmoka
I need Dr. Grande to analyze Dr. Grande.
I don’t need him to diagnose him, just speculate on what could be happening with a Licensed Counselor of Mental Health covering tragic cases publicly with such a dry sense of humor lol.
Bears in the woods don't walk or act or look or sound like people. How could she? Then bamboozle the court? In front of the kids. Was she stable ? Psychotic? Off her meds?
Thank you Dr Grande for your wonderful insight 😀
I have less than zero sympathy for any human who wants to kill an animal. I can't even imagine wanting to do that. The murder and all of the circumstances and details aside, the only thing I can't get past is that these people wanted to kill animals and that makes them demented and Insane as far as I'm concerned. The rest of it is their own damn karma. I will say the children didn't deserve it and hopefully have survived emotionally unscathed, though I doubt that
Totally agree with you!!! These poor animals don’t stand a chance!
Let me guess you were born and raised in a city
@@bitbrace totally and thoroughly inaccurate. Let me guess, you like death metal and guns🙄
@@sbrooke210 Nope no death metal can't understand a word they're saying, but yeah we all have guns out here in the sticks, thought only citidots didn't have guns
Oh man, I’m dead 😂😂😅 the part about the lodge owner not knowing what a bear looks like!! 😂😂😂
😂 ..."I'm starting to question if the lodge owner has ever seen a bear" Yeah, blue coveralls and a 3 day old beard...sure screams bear to me. 😂 Every video you put out ends up making me laugh with your humor. I look forward to your videos every day!! ❤️
An example of an ability to shoot a firearm call emselves “hunters” but incapable of recognizing the target animal- she is a perfect example of a person who should not have firearms- she failed to follow the basic safety and hunting rules, a bipolar diagnosis should also prohibit firearm possession.
Liars and rifles and bears, oh my!
Had to chuckle at your doubts regarding bearlike features identified by the hunting lodge owner. Thanks for the video.
Unbelievable how the judge not seeing all these incriminating factors. Miscarriage of justice!
Would’ve been something to see them driving back with Mark strapped to the hood of the car.
I've never understood the concept of shooting and killing animals for sport. It's not even a fair fight. For food, I get that, but not for pleasure.
I bet if it was the husband who shot his wife, he would've been convicted.
Him, Dead Bear.
She, Shooting Bear.
Brother, Naughty Bear.
Great analysis & lovely to hear your dog had fun in the background with a toy😊 Greetings from your Danish fans!
Boy you guys must have great hearing! I tried two times and heard nothing!
Unless he was dressed in a bear suit she's at least guilty of manslaughter and probably guilty of murder.
They could never prove beyond a reasonable doubt unless she messaged someone about it or wrote something down about it. Unfortunately mark put himself in a bad situation with someone he didn't feel safe around
Always here to support Dr. G
It's pretty suspicious when someone is directly linked to two deaths.
If she wanted to murder her husband, how could she know it wasn't the guide stepping out of the woods towards her?
@@char524 But how did the wife know that?
I'm starting to think the guide was in on it, no vest, walking out in the dark?
@@terryowen6759 That's an interesting angle. That would be the only way it would make sense that it was murder, actually.
Had the same thought
I love how Dr. Grande says, "Most bears are unemployed."😄
Doc got jokes.
Heck yeah, she’s guilty. Guilty as sin. She could easily tell it wasn’t a bear when looking through that scope.
I got into legal trouble with PETA one time when I mistook a bear for my wife…
We appreciate Dr Grande's dedication and hard work on this channel. God bless him.
Was she trying to emulate Dick Cheney who claims he thought his hunting partner was also a bear?
Who goes hunting with their infant/young children with them??!
All of these people deserve each other.
Hi.Great show. i live not far from that family, here in PA & it was all over the news here for ages. Despite the pro gun rights & obvious slaNT OH HER 'LOVE OF THE OUTDOORS'(KILLING THINGS) & cLEAR oMISSION OF HER MENTAL CONDITION...WHICH WAS nO sECRET AS SHE WAS ALWAYS IN SOMEBODY'S FACE FOR UPSETTING HER ONE WAY OR ANOTHER...opinions were polarized...they were gun & kill happy...she was exceptionally pretty, and flirtatious...& besides that guys around here are drawn to women who love guns. So...she was Always allowed any infractions she desired to commit, including having custody of children in her Known Dangerous mental state...
I am Firmly convinced she was misdiagnosed....she actually displayed Psychotic characteristics not BiPolar...there is a big difference between those mental issues. But..this is Good Ole Boy territory & the Letter of the Law is viewed as more of a suggestive guideline rather than..well..The Law. Besides that lil factoid..did i mention she was very pretty & flirtatious?
Another thing Wrong with the case...it Leaps out to me that she knew the Insurance phone numbers off the top of her head..Fascinating, especially considering it had just been Radically increased...& she immediately began a relationship with hubby's brother...
All are screeching red flags of spousal murder.
It is Not hard to co-ordinate a hunting trip...and a murder scene with such easy loopholes such as this one. They obviously chose that area knowing the case would not be handled properly & they would get away with it...the guide was probably paid or threatened to hang back...
The fact the brother ran off with the nanny while she was institutionalized is hilarious poetic justice...but for one thing...i believe he was Very complicit in his brothers death...and is now in the wind...to do it again.
aS IS SHE.
Apologies...this keyboard has it's own mind...
The guide was in on it
And these people are allowed to have children... very sad.