The more i research about Crops vs Full frame cameras i find these 4 main benefits with Full frame: *better dynamic range *Lower noise *Wider selection of quality lenses available to get exactly the image you want. and last but not least... *Its the standard and there are no conversions needed to know what you will get in DoF and FoV with a lens. It simplifies everything.
I wanted a really small kit so I picked up a used A6500 at a really good price along with the MC-11 adapter, small cage and third party charger with two extra batteries. I picked up several lenses and still have a very light weight kit. OTOH, I do like shooting with a pair of cameras. The price point and form factor of the A6500 have convinced me to stick with the crop sensor. I will see what Sony puts on the table with their next crop sensor camera and might pick one up to use alongside my A6500, OTOH, I would not mind at all shooting with a second A6500...
Khairul Ilman i'm still using the t3i buddy. Can't decide if i should buy the sony a6300 with the 18-105 or the a7 ii with the kit lens. Well, in both decisions i'll need a lot of money.
Thank you! Spot on. A7iii offers more for the money. A6500 should cost 2 or 300 USD/EUR less. But do not discount portability. The A6500 with the 16-50mm is as large as a MFT or little larger than a P&S and you can put it in some winter coat pocket. If you use the Sigma 18-35mm the ISO advantage disappears as there are no 1.8 zoom lenses for the A7 series. You can shoot one stop more open. The zooms for the FF Sony are large and very expensive or average (24-70 f4). The Tamron 28-75 seems promising, it can be great for events (although some reviewers mentioned AF problems). I have 2 A7, 1 A7ii, 1A6000, 1 A6300 ( i shoot most gigs with 2 primes and I do not like to swap lenses on an assignment, if possible). I am thinking of selling my 3 FF bodies. Maybe I could buy the A7iii + Tamron 28-75for some occasions (i like portraits with the 55mm + A7ii), but at the end I may get similar results with the A6300 and Sigma 18-55. For travel I prefer the smaller form factor. Some landscape / nature photographers seem to have switched to MFT
Depends on the market. Here in Europe it seems like they forgot to drop the price of A6500, but in the US, you can get is under 1 000 dollars. Sigma 18-35 does indeed compensate for the sensor size but the usability and handling with that combination is not very good and the reach is quite short as well, so you can get similar results with 18-35 but with more hustle. A7 III + Tamron 28-75 and A6300 with some prime lens could be very good combination, but it seems like they stopped selling 28-75 in the Europe until the AF is fixed.
Hi - so I received the 18-35mm. Very sharp but as you said not the best handling. I sometimes need to hold a LED panel with the left hand and it is hard to quickly put the focus point on a subject's eye (with multiple persons I can not just rely on face / eye AF). So many times I wish the A6300 and A7ii had a joystick for AF that you can also move diagonally. I noticed that the battery drains really quickly with 18-35mm and MC-11. It may be a dealbreaker. I wonder if it drains the battery even when the camera is off. I will test more, but definitely with the Sigma primes I can shoot all day, not with the 18-35
@@TheHybridShooter I ' ve started to shoot weddings and baptisms. I have a sony a6000 with sigma 30mm 1.4. I want to be upgraded and I am between A7 III and a6500. Worth the difference in money? What are the diffences ? Can I do my job well with The a6500? I capture only photos and no video. Thanks in advance!
@@tziminhio4826 I think that it is worth the price difference, if you budget allows it. Differences are explained in the video. A6500 generally can do the job if you have right lenses.
Is this combination good for prank videos? Sony a6500 sigma mc 11 Adapter with Tamron 18-400mm canon lens?? And how's the stabilization while zooming handheld in a video
Great review as always! This video was full of detailed information which I often miss on other channels. Thanks for putting in all the effort. It really makes a difference!
Thank you very much for this review. I have the A6500 and absolutely love it. I'm ready to make it my secondary camera and have the A7 III as the main camera. Thanks again. Great image and video samples.
I bought the a7iii with a Zeiss Batis 55 f1.8 and made my a6500 into a back-up or b-roll camera because: a) great IQ; (b) the ability to remove the 30 minute limit; (c) smaller size; (d) the Sony play memories app; (e) the APSC sony lenses 35 f1.8, 10-18; 18-105 and the Sigma 18-35 as well as the 16 f1.4. Having said that, I'm really itching to get a second a7iii and mount my Batis 25 f2.
One of the things that made 4K footage on the a6500 so crisp was the 6K downsampling - which i believe none of the other Sonys had at that point. Nice to see this implemented in the A7III.
Of course the a7iii is better than the a6500, that’s like comparing a BMW 325 to a BMW M6. But looking at the results from the a6500 from shooters like Jason Lanier for the money the a6500 is a huge value.
As always, I like your videos. I was hoping that you would expand on the dynamic range differences. For instance shooting an indoor scene with the same settings and then in post seeing how much each camera recovers the highlights and shadows. Shooting a room exposing for the room and seeing how much of the outside through a window can be brought back would be a good test. Thx again for a great video.
All the positive reviews of A7III tempted me to sell my A6500 and upgrade, since 2k really isn't that bad for a kickass FF body. But then I checked the prices for a few lenses... noooope, ain't happening. No way I can justify spending that much as a hobby photographer.
I know what you mean i was looking to upgrade from the point and shoot rx100 to the a7iii. The lenses killed any thought of that quickly. I just wanted a better camera for travel videos and photos. I dont make money off it so no way I could justify spending that much.
If I only need one of these camera to shoot video for UA-cam, is the A7III better enough to justify the increase in price? Also taking into account the lens selection. I'll just need 1 solid lens, like the Sigma 18-35.
I love both cameras now I own the a7 iii but been honest the a7 iii feel kinda of cheap.the A6500 feels more solid but that’s my opinion.both are great cameras
I think tapered front of viewfinder where Sony is written on a7series head looks ugly. 6500 looks refined by not having that ugly and oddly placed viewfinder. I too love 6500 just because it looks smart and straight.
Great breakdown as always. I just got my A6500 and I’m still struggling with color profile/science coming from Panasonic. Do you set your profiles differently for both still & video on the 6500?
Thank you, I currently use PP8 with gamma changed to Cine4 for video and PP OFF for stills,, since I mostly shoot and edit RAWs. For out of camera image I probably like PP4 (709) the most.
When doing the IBIS comparison did you walk more roughly or softly? And did you try to hold the camera stable with two hands or loose with just one hand ? I am trying to understand if it is already the best result possible or if it could be optimized. Thanks.
I just returned my G9 to pickup the A7III. The first thing i did notice like you mentioned in a before video that the G9 is definitely better weather sealed. But the images coming out of the A7III are "wow". You mentioned something about the weather sealing on the A7III, are you talking about the battery door, or is there more. I didn't know there was a problem until this video. Also great comparison of the two lens.
The Sony a6500 isn't much cheaper but it is considerably older than the new Sony a7 III. Sony the recent years after the tremendous success of the Sony a7 series is more focused on full frame mirrorless cameras and full frame e-mount lenses. That doesn't mean that Sony doesn't update its other cameras and lens. Simply the Sony a7 series and a9 helped Sony to challenge the domination of Nikon and Canon in full frame cameras and lenses.
6500 question - Is it possible to use gamma assist for cine profiles to increase light output of dim lcd in 4k shooting, if so could you record the results? I`d like to step up and sell RX100V and get 6300/6500/GH5 and the brightness issue would be huge for me. Props from Prague. Díky
Not sure if you can answer that question, but compared to RX100V screen, is the 6500 screen much dimmer?Cant find any nits info to make a picture of it..
Are any looses in Depth of Field when using Aps-c mode? Now i'm want to decide to by tamron 28-75 or mc-11 adapter. Already have sigma 18-35, using with my second small APS-C camera
Yes, the depth of field is deeper on APS-C if you shoot at focal length multiplied by crop factor wit same aperture settings, so you will get shallower depth of field with 18-35
Your videos are full of useful information. Thank you very much posting this comparison. I currently use a6500 and mainly shoot portraits. Do you think stepping back a bit with a6500 could potentially give same depth of field and bokhe?
Thank you, a7iii is my dream camera but not sure I can justify the cost. All the photos and video on a6500 looked really good, was the dim screen a real problem? Otherwise it’s just rolling shutter I need to worry about. Is rolling shutter fix more reliable than warp stabilise?
The screen unusable for shooting 4K outdoors on bright day. The rolling shutter can be almost completely fixed in most situations, but the exporting time will be up to 10x longer.
Thank you for letting me know. That's good about the rolling shutter. Just a shame about the screen. In the video I couldn't tell too much difference on the photos just frustrating they can't make a perfect camera. I also need to try both in the hand to see whether it makes much of a difference. I find these days its easier to stuff a camera in my man bag if i'm out with my son and carrying a nappy bag around - sounds silly but no point having a camera not being used which is why a6500 looks so promising.
You probably can't tell the difference because I mostly used Sigma lenses that are optically great, but especially with 18-35mm F1.8 the whole setups is actually bigger and heavier than A7 III with Tamron 28-75mm F2.8.
I will make a review of the kit lens next week, it is generally not a bad lens, it will be OK to start with, although buying A7 III only to use it with the kit lens is probably not a good idea.
The Hybrid Shooter look forward to coming video. Perhaps you can suggest a main go to the lens if you can only get one apart from the kit lens. The kit lens is worth getting? As it's only 200 uk pounds extra with the body. Also , can a6500 lens work on this camera would be good to address in the video.
I actually don't know answer to that question yet, but I will talk about that in the review soon. If you can only get one lens for A7III I recommend Tamron 28-75mm F2.8 Di III RXD.
Get the a6500, stick with the kit lens until you learn video more, then branch out. You don't need tons of equipment to start out... you just need to START. Good luck bro!
Michael Klaser yeah I probably should, the end result doesn't any different to my untrained eye but I'm guessing the camera is a breeze to use compared to 6500. F
I think that using an original E mount lens on the A6500 the AF speed would be better, as the IBIS response with the last firm update. With APS designed native E mount tele/zoom lenses I´d prefer the A6500 because it is lighter, smaller, his corner viewfinder, integrated flash, but...
Hello Shooter I use Sony a6500 but I just bought an a7iii, I feel that the body is hot all the time, several degrees more than the a6500, is this normal?
@@TheHybridShooter OMG!! :( So my a7iii is defective, the body is very hot all time, I have 2 a6500 and both have a normal temperature, the a7iii feels like a laptop on its bottom
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Hey Hybrid, thanks for all the effort you put into your high quality videos :) What are your thoughts on a6500 nowadays? I'm looking towards buying my first IBIS camera for some run n gun videoshooting
One thing I discovered in moving up from the a6500 to the a7iii is that each of your prime is really two primes due to the ability to go into APSC or super 35 mode. For example, my 25 mm f2 Zeiss is now a 37mm f2.8 Zeiss; the 55 mm f1.8 Zeiss is now a 87 mm f2 Zeiss! So the cost of $1000 for each lens means that you're really paying for two prime lenses!
That is truth, but you also loose resolution when using Super 35, and I would personally rather crop the pictures in post. It is useful for video though.
".......... if you want excellent image quality sigma 18-35 and 50-100 art lenses are the only two zoom lenses for crop sensor that can fully utilize the sensor in A6500". That statement seems to contradict your previous sony lens reviews for A 6500 . Was on the fence about the A6500 and now you are effectively saying that to take full advantage of the sensor I need to buy an adapter and add a not so small zoom lens. For those of us that don't have the resources to " buy a couple of primes " whats the point of buying a small body ? I guess the search continues . Love to hear some APS-C alternatives
I'm not sure which reviews you mean, because the only two zoom lenses for APS-C e-mount that I have reviewed are Sigma 18-35mm F1.8 and Sony 16-50mm kit lens and I have never said that the kit lens provides excellent image quality. High pixel density on crop sensors means that those sensors are very demanding on the lens sharpness. Sony, 18-105 F4 and 18-135 F3.5-5.6 are decent lenses, but only those two Sigma lenses can fully match the sensor capabilities (out of APS-C zoom lenses). That doesn't mean that the image quality with other lenses won't be good enough.
Thank you for this excellent video! Did you notice slightly slower and unreliable AF-C in video on the A7 iii with Sigma 16 f/1.4? Sometimes my camera won't focus at all or it will take around 6 seconds for it to focus on a person in the middle of the frame. (With the back of the head facing the camera, so face AF is irrellevant) The kit lens 28-70 isn't much better either and low light AF isn't very good either. Not with the 16mm also. There are two lines at the left and right when I mount the 16mm f1.4 to my A7 iii, what does that mean? When I place the focus point outside the lines the camera cannot focus at all.
On my A7 III the 16mm F1.4 focuses as well as on A6500, I haven't noticed any slow focusing. What AF track sense and drive speed settings did you use? Those make a big difference in the A7III. Regarding those two lines, I think that those mark the AF area in wide setting.
OK - yes I believe you: A7III is better than 6500.BUT: you have to pay not only more for it´s body - the lenses you need then makes it very expensive (min. 5000 Euro). So you have to decide, whether you really need the best (A7iii) or get lucky with a little bit less perfectness (6500). And second: in my opinion I like the less weight and size of 6500+lenses - so I take it with me mostly everywhere and that`s a huge advantage for me. So in conclusion: I don`t critize - you can think so but otherwise you can think different. I would like to have an A7III - but i can`t afford it with the view of follow-up costs and formfactor. Thank you for your effort in making this very good comaparison video!
Great Video Hybrid Shooter! Please help me decide, I will only invest $3k max until i pay it off in 2 to 3 years. Which route should I go? I will use the camera for family and hiking purposes. What would be a good combo for $3k budget (cam and lens). Also,.I intend to keep it for 10years what would be the right option. Is FF lenses way more expensive than apsc by how much ratio do you think (same application or equivalent lenses) and do they have like a breakeven point let say after 2 years I can set aside another 1k for additional lenses, down the road which option can i save more. I'm considering fuji xt3 also since its new and lower in cost than a7iii. Pls help 😊
Hi to everyone. I ' ve started to shoot weddings and baptisms. I have a sony a6000 with sigma 30mm 1.4. I want to be upgraded and I am between A7 III and a6500. Worth the difference in money? What are the diffences ? Can I do my job well with The a6500? I capture only photos and no video. Thanks in advance!
Great review. I'm still attached to my a6500. FF lenses are just too expensive for me at this time. Can you do a video comparison for low light. Also you show a video comparison to a7iii regular mode vs super 35.
u missed one thing. full pixel read out(No pixel binning). a7iii 5k to 4k. but a6500 6k to 4k. I am a editior. So 6500 is better than a7iii in shooting video. sharper footages. and a7iii has warm colour profile as default. check it out. No capturing real nature color. Its a main thing.
No I didn't miss that both cameras have 24 mpix sensor so both shoot 6K downsampled to 4K. A7 III and A6500 have similar sharpness. Your results may be affected by lenses.
@@TheHybridShooter You mean you don't remember which mic you used? Can you please share the one you currently use? I'm about to upgrade my A/V setup and always enjoyed your voice over. While I'm not going to get a Slovak accent, at least I can get close :)
@@TheHybridShooter Right on. You seem to have a good budget but the new Deity D3 Pro seems good at $200 for a shotgun. But, since you mainly do voice over, you can always consider a Neumann U 87 which I think would compliment your voice nicely: current.org/2015/06/a-top-audio-engineer-explains-nprs-signature-sound/ I'm sure you're aware but adding some insulation to your room in the form of acoustic treatment will significantly focus your captured audio. If you check my recent video, you can see how an ideal recording corner is set up. For the tightest sound, face into a well-treated corner. Thanks :)
@@TheHybridShooter Hey, just checking up. Not sure if you read that article about NPR voice over workflow. Since I keep thinking about this, I thought I'd mention the RE-20 - it was mentioned in that article - which you've probably heard but I think will also match your voice well at a much more affordable price point when compared to the Neumann U87. Cheers.
How bad is the EFF of the a7 III. Ive got this camera yesterday, but Im worried I cant use the EVF to tell correct sharpness, colours etc? How bat is it?
@@TheHybridShooter I mean, I've found a deal for a6500 at 1350, and a7 3 kit for 2050, body only 1850, not sure if to buy with another good lens with a cheap price tag(not sure there is). But the Ff, battery life, extra buttons, etc definitely give it advantages
Hi, great video. But I'd like to see one with a comparison of a7/a7ii with a6400... I want to switch my canon 750d to one of those... On the one hand ff is really appealing with it's benefits, but on the other, this cameras are quite old now... Idk what to buy, please help 😅 Btw, I shoot photos almost exclusively
if you shoot fast moving subject, sports, then go for a6500 because it has waaaay faster auto focus and 11 fps still. A7 gives you better bokeh but otherwise image quality is not so different.
Ahoj, kolega fotil svatbu s tím novým tamronem 28-75mm a dvakrát mu zamrzl autofocus a musel vypnout a zapnout foťák.. ale chvíli trvalo než si toho prej všiml :D tobě se to ještě nestalo?
First reason i pick A6000 series is Price and size :D Mirrorless is about weight and its ability to shine ... If i were to pick the Mirrorless the size of DSLR , i will buy DSLR instead .
The Hybrid Shooter i do the same . and it is also my travel camera , i bring it with me everywhere with sigma 30mm f1.4 DN , it is a great kit. . and for that i should thanks you for your great review.. haha without you , i would not know anything about mirrorless world
Depends on what you mean by budget friendly. A7 III and A6500 is good combination IMO, you can remove recording limit form A6500, install timelapse app and get more reach from FF lenses, so it makes sense.
I currently use an a6300, only reason why I'd really want to upgrade to the a7iii is because of the dual card slot and just the overall more professional feel to it.
*Sony A7 III vs Nikon Z6* - bit.ly/A7IIIvsZ6
*Sony A7 III vs Fujifilm X-T3* - bit.ly/A7IIIvsXT3
*Sony A7III vs Panasonic G9* - bit.ly/A7IIIvsG9
I just switch to the a7III and I love it! I’ll be posting videos shot with that camera on my channel!
The more i research about Crops vs Full frame cameras i find these 4 main benefits with Full frame:
*better dynamic range
*Lower noise
*Wider selection of quality lenses available to get exactly the image you want.
and last but not least...
*Its the standard and there are no conversions needed to know what you will get in DoF and FoV with a lens. It simplifies everything.
Not just lower noise, but you can use higher iso with the same noise level, meaning in low light it has less chance of taking shaky picture.
@@BigBoss-gb4cx ?? Do you mean higher ISO? or higher IS image stabilization?
@@tecnolover2642 i meant iso, sorry autocorrect :)
I wanted a really small kit so I picked up a used A6500 at a really good price along with the MC-11 adapter, small cage and third party charger with two extra batteries. I picked up several lenses and still have a very light weight kit. OTOH, I do like shooting with a pair of cameras. The price point and form factor of the A6500 have convinced me to stick with the crop sensor. I will see what Sony puts on the table with their next crop sensor camera and might pick one up to use alongside my A6500, OTOH, I would not mind at all shooting with a second A6500...
I like when you call us friends in the beginning
I feel like a caveman. I'm still using an a6000.
Same here man.
No reason to feel like a caveman, it is still great camera.
Me too man. Can’t wait to upgrade!
I'm still using a t5i :D, but that don't stop me from making videos 💪
Khairul Ilman i'm still using the t3i buddy. Can't decide if i should buy the sony a6300 with the 18-105 or the a7 ii with the kit lens. Well, in both decisions i'll need a lot of money.
but its like half the price, shock. a6500 is still a ridiculous beast.
Caviar Media yup exactly why I got it. I’ll pick up the a7iii when it gets cheaper.
Yeah. And there's no reason to compare two different camera bodies with different form factors.
Great video, thank you! I would love to see how the A7 III performs with the MC11 + Sigma 18-35 vs Sony A6500 with the same MC11 + Sigma 18-35
Thank you, I will try to do that next week.
A73 is Full frame so you will get some heavy vignetting when using the sigma 18-35 wich is an aps-c lens.
There is an APS-C mode on A7iii which crops the sensor.
@@TheHybridShooter would love to see this too!
@@TheHybridShooter crazy, that is so good to know
Great review!! Thanks for the detailed info!!
You're welcome, thank you for watching!
Thanks for the awesome comparison. Keep up the great work!
You're welcome, thank you for watching!
Just picked up a 6500 and will be getting the 7III as well. I rented the 7III and it's "WORLDS" beyond the 7II.
Thank you! Spot on. A7iii offers more for the money. A6500 should cost 2 or 300 USD/EUR less. But do not discount portability. The A6500 with the 16-50mm is as large as a MFT or little larger than a P&S and you can put it in some winter coat pocket. If you use the Sigma 18-35mm the ISO advantage disappears as there are no 1.8 zoom lenses for the A7 series. You can shoot one stop more open. The zooms for the FF Sony are large and very expensive or average (24-70 f4). The Tamron 28-75 seems promising, it can be great for events (although some reviewers mentioned AF problems). I have 2 A7, 1 A7ii, 1A6000, 1 A6300 ( i shoot most gigs with 2 primes and I do not like to swap lenses on an assignment, if possible). I am thinking of selling my 3 FF bodies. Maybe I could buy the A7iii + Tamron 28-75for some occasions (i like portraits with the 55mm + A7ii), but at the end I may get similar results with the A6300 and Sigma 18-55. For travel I prefer the smaller form factor. Some landscape / nature photographers seem to have switched to MFT
Depends on the market. Here in Europe it seems like they forgot to drop the price of A6500, but in the US, you can get is under 1 000 dollars. Sigma 18-35 does indeed compensate for the sensor size but the usability and handling with that combination is not very good and the reach is quite short as well, so you can get similar results with 18-35 but with more hustle. A7 III + Tamron 28-75 and A6300 with some prime lens could be very good combination, but it seems like they stopped selling 28-75 in the Europe until the AF is fixed.
Hi - so I received the 18-35mm. Very sharp but as you said not the best handling. I sometimes need to hold a LED panel with the left hand and it is hard to quickly put the focus point on a subject's eye (with multiple persons I can not just rely on face / eye AF). So many times I wish the A6300 and A7ii had a joystick for AF that you can also move diagonally. I noticed that the battery drains really quickly with 18-35mm and MC-11. It may be a dealbreaker. I wonder if it drains the battery even when the camera is off. I will test more, but definitely with the Sigma primes I can shoot all day, not with the 18-35
@@TheHybridShooter I ' ve started to shoot weddings and baptisms. I have a sony a6000 with sigma 30mm 1.4.
I want to be upgraded and I am between A7 III and a6500. Worth the difference in money? What are the diffences ? Can I do my job well with The a6500? I capture only photos and no video.
Thanks in advance!
@@tziminhio4826 I think that it is worth the price difference, if you budget allows it. Differences are explained in the video. A6500 generally can do the job if you have right lenses.
Is this combination good for prank videos?
Sony a6500 sigma mc 11 Adapter with Tamron 18-400mm canon lens??
And how's the stabilization while zooming handheld in a video
No, the autofocus won't work in video. the stabilization also depends on the lens, IBIS is more effective at wide angles.
Great review as always! This video was full of detailed information which I often miss on other channels. Thanks for putting in all the effort. It really makes a difference!
Thank you, I am glad that this video was helpful to you.
Thank you very much for this review. I have the A6500 and absolutely love it.
I'm ready to make it my secondary camera and have the A7 III as the main camera.
Thanks again. Great image and video samples.
You're welcome and thank for watching!
On the a6500 in video mode. you can set it to S&Q mode and get full brightness in 4k video mode still :)
How can you do that? (Get full brightness in 4K on a6500)
The topics of your videos are awesome. Answering the relevant questions.
Thanks. :D
You're welcome and thank you for watching!
I bought the a7iii with a Zeiss Batis 55 f1.8 and made my a6500 into a back-up or b-roll camera because: a) great IQ; (b) the ability to remove the 30 minute limit; (c) smaller size; (d) the Sony play memories app; (e) the APSC sony lenses 35 f1.8, 10-18; 18-105 and the Sigma 18-35 as well as the 16 f1.4. Having said that, I'm really itching to get a second a7iii and mount my Batis 25 f2.
That is a good combination IMO and you can get more reach from FF lenses when mounted on APS-C camera.
One of the things that made 4K footage on the a6500 so crisp was the 6K downsampling - which i believe none of the other Sonys had at that point. Nice to see this implemented in the A7III.
A6300 does that as well.
Your balanced approach to your reviews is really appreciated.
Thank you!
Of course the a7iii is better than the a6500, that’s like comparing a BMW 325 to a BMW M6. But looking at the results from the a6500 from shooters like Jason Lanier for the money the a6500 is a huge value.
Well, it is even written in the title, if you always have perfect light conditions like Lanier, even A6000 will provide very good results.
You are my go to person for information on Sony & Sigma technology. So professional. Thanks for keeping Sony a6500 relevant throughout your journey.
Thank you, I appreciate your feedback!
Easy.
If you're enthusiast user, get a6500, if you're pro user get a7iii.
As always, I like your videos. I was hoping that you would expand on the dynamic range differences. For instance shooting an indoor scene with the same settings and then in post seeing how much each camera recovers the highlights and shadows. Shooting a room exposing for the room and seeing how much of the outside through a window can be brought back would be a good test. Thx again for a great video.
Thank you, I will look at that in FF vs APS-C vs M43 video.
The Hybrid Shooter - I like that idea! A dynamic range battle between the G9 vs a6500 vs A7iii sounds epic! Thx and looking forward to that one.
Killed it!! I'm getting the a7iii
You won't be disappointed.
The Hybrid Shooter amazing. Do you think 24-70 gmaster is enough for music and UA-cam videos or would you get another?
Depends on what kind of scenes you want to shoot. 24-70 is generally good focal range for all-round shooting.
just order mine
Alex Celaya awesome bro!
I shoot with both cameras and agree with everything you mentioned... However, I tend to like the AF on the A6400 better than AF on the A6500...
Yes, it is definitely better on A6400
We can not use the hack anymore with a7III to disable the 30mins recording limit. That is one big thing if you are shooting a lot event and wedding.
Yes, that is unfortunate, you need to use external recorder for that.
As I understood the video shooting might be longer while using the grip? I mean in terms of overheating?
Yes, if you have issues with overheating, adding battery grip will help, because it moves the biggest sourse of heat (battery) out of the camera.
Thanks a lot. I will try to use MEIKE and maybe will improve it. if it helps I'll tell you the result
Nice comparison. What camera did you use to shoot this video (when not showing footage from A6500 or the A7III)?
Thank you! Unfortunately, I don't remember, it was a very long time ago.
All the positive reviews of A7III tempted me to sell my A6500 and upgrade, since 2k really isn't that bad for a kickass FF body. But then I checked the prices for a few lenses... noooope, ain't happening. No way I can justify spending that much as a hobby photographer.
There are some 3rd party lenses that aren't more expensive than APS-C counterparts, like the Tamron 28-75mm F2.8 or Samyang AF primes.
I know what you mean i was looking to upgrade from the point and shoot rx100 to the a7iii. The lenses killed any thought of that quickly. I just wanted a better camera for travel videos and photos. I dont make money off it so no way I could justify spending that much.
I agree with you. A6500 user here and I’m happy with my sigma 16mm. Might get 18-105 and a 85 equivalent lens
Thanks so much for this !! I’m looking at getting either of these cameras !!
You're welcome!
If I only need one of these camera to shoot video for UA-cam, is the A7III better enough to justify the increase in price? Also taking into account the lens selection. I'll just need 1 solid lens, like the Sigma 18-35.
I can't really answer that, it depends on how mu do you value the upgrades that A7 III provides over A6500.
I love both cameras now I own the a7 iii but been honest the a7 iii feel kinda of cheap.the A6500 feels more solid but that’s my opinion.both are great cameras
I would personally say that the build quality is the same, but that is just my opinion.
I think tapered front of viewfinder where Sony is written on a7series head looks ugly. 6500 looks refined by not having that ugly and oddly placed viewfinder. I too love 6500 just because it looks smart and straight.
a6500 feels so dense.
Which one would you buy if you didn’t have any? I’m looking to buy one of them. Only have a Sony gs mark 5 right now but looking to upgrade. Thanks
Does any of these cameras a6500 or a7 iii has any aliasing issue? I had Canon M6 Mark ii and it had terrible issue with aliasing. Thinking to upgrade.
No, both have anti aliasing filter.
@@TheHybridShooter thank you
I like this review; to the point, covers most of the significant issues, not a word wasted.
Thank you, that was my intention.
Thnx for your informative videos!
Do u plan to compare the Tamron 28-75 lens against Sony(g) 24-105, for Sony A7iii, anytime in future?
Thank you, I am very happy with the Tamron, so I will not be getting 24-105, sorry about that.
Great breakdown as always. I just got my A6500 and I’m still struggling with color profile/science coming from Panasonic. Do you set your profiles differently for both still & video on the 6500?
Thank you, I currently use PP8 with gamma changed to Cine4 for video and PP OFF for stills,, since I mostly shoot and edit RAWs. For out of camera image I probably like PP4 (709) the most.
When doing the IBIS comparison did you walk more roughly or softly? And did you try to hold the camera stable with two hands or loose with just one hand ? I am trying to understand if it is already the best result possible or if it could be optimized. Thanks.
It is definitely not the best result, I wasn't trying to walk smooth, to really show the difference.
For video do you recommend changing a6500 to a7iii? image quality, autofocus
Generally yes, but it depends on your expectations for the A7 III.
@@TheHybridShooter a 7iii unlimited recording ?
No
can we use canon lenses on a73? specially for vlogging and b roll? what lenses could be used with a73 (canon)
You can use Canon lenses with EF to E-mount adapter, autofocus performance depends on the specific lens and adapter.
I just returned my G9 to pickup the A7III. The first thing i did notice like you mentioned in a before video that the G9 is definitely better weather sealed. But the images coming out of the A7III are "wow". You mentioned something about the weather sealing on the A7III, are you talking about the battery door, or is there more. I didn't know there was a problem until this video. Also great comparison of the two lens.
Thank you, there is a lot information about on the internet.
Hello what camera are you using to shoot these reviews? Its awesome.
This video was shot mostly on Panasonic G9, I also use Sony A7 III for other videos.
The Sony a6500 isn't much cheaper but it is considerably older than the new Sony a7 III. Sony the recent years after the tremendous success of the Sony a7 series is more focused on full frame mirrorless cameras and full frame e-mount lenses. That doesn't mean that Sony doesn't update its other cameras and lens. Simply the Sony a7 series and a9 helped Sony to challenge the domination of Nikon and Canon in full frame cameras and lenses.
Depends on the market, for example in the US, A7 III costs twice as much as A6500.
6500 question - Is it possible to use gamma assist for cine profiles to increase light output of dim lcd in 4k shooting, if so could you record the results? I`d like to step up and sell RX100V and get 6300/6500/GH5 and the brightness issue would be huge for me. Props from Prague. Díky
It is possible, it helps with visibility a bit, but the colors will be off and it is still not sufficient for a bright day. Pozdravujem zo Slovenska.
Not sure if you can answer that question, but compared to RX100V screen, is the 6500 screen much dimmer?Cant find any nits info to make a picture of it..
Unfortunately, I can't, I have never used RX100 V.
Are any looses in Depth of Field when using Aps-c mode? Now i'm want to decide to by tamron 28-75 or mc-11 adapter. Already have sigma 18-35, using with my second small APS-C camera
Yes, the depth of field is deeper on APS-C if you shoot at focal length multiplied by crop factor wit same aperture settings, so you will get shallower depth of field with 18-35
Great comparison of the two cameras! Thanks for sharing!
Thank you!
have you upgraded the tamron firmware or these shots were made with the original firmware?
I have updated it, but all of the shot in this video were taken before FW updated, my copy had no problems at all.
Your videos are full of useful information. Thank you very much posting this comparison.
I currently use a6500 and mainly shoot portraits. Do you think stepping back a bit with a6500 could potentially give same depth of field and bokhe?
If you use the same lens that you would use on FF, It will provide the same DoF as the FF, just the FoV will be different, so yes.
Thank you, a7iii is my dream camera but not sure I can justify the cost. All the photos and video on a6500 looked really good, was the dim screen a real problem? Otherwise it’s just rolling shutter I need to worry about.
Is rolling shutter fix more reliable than warp stabilise?
The screen unusable for shooting 4K outdoors on bright day. The rolling shutter can be almost completely fixed in most situations, but the exporting time will be up to 10x longer.
Thank you for letting me know. That's good about the rolling shutter. Just a shame about the screen. In the video I couldn't tell too much difference on the photos just frustrating they can't make a perfect camera. I also need to try both in the hand to see whether it makes much of a difference. I find these days its easier to stuff a camera in my man bag if i'm out with my son and carrying a nappy bag around - sounds silly but no point having a camera not being used which is why a6500 looks so promising.
You probably can't tell the difference because I mostly used Sigma lenses that are optically great, but especially with 18-35mm F1.8 the whole setups is actually bigger and heavier than A7 III with Tamron 28-75mm F2.8.
What camera did you used for filming this video? Thanks!
I used Panasonic G9, Sony A6500 and Sony A7 III.
At the beginning of the video what you used?
@@dan_lazar G9
Great video and comparison! may i ask if it's worth to upgrade to A6300/A6500 from A6000 nowadays? Thank you
Thank you, that depends on how you use it.
@@TheHybridShooter I'm using it for both photo and video work. Or is it better to get the a7ii since it's cheaper than a6500 for now?
I prefer A6500 over A7 II especially because of the autofocus and 4K video.
@@TheHybridShooter okay then thank you very much for your answer! Keep inspiring :)
What do you think about apsc mode in a73? I plan using some apsc lenses on it while waiting for tamron 28-75mm?
10.2 megapixels in that mode is probably not enough for stills, but it can still be used for very nice 4K video.
The Hybrid Shooter thank you so much for the reply.. Really appreciate!
The question is ..I’m new to cameras and want to use the video aspect more...what do I get ..a73 with kit lens or a6500 with 3 good lenses?
I will make a review of the kit lens next week, it is generally not a bad lens, it will be OK to start with, although buying A7 III only to use it with the kit lens is probably not a good idea.
The Hybrid Shooter look forward to coming video. Perhaps you can suggest a main go to the lens if you can only get one apart from the kit lens. The kit lens is worth getting? As it's only 200 uk pounds extra with the body. Also , can a6500 lens work on this camera would be good to address in the video.
I actually don't know answer to that question yet, but I will talk about that in the review soon. If you can only get one lens for A7III I recommend Tamron 28-75mm F2.8 Di III RXD.
Get the a6500, stick with the kit lens until you learn video more, then branch out. You don't need tons of equipment to start out... you just need to START. Good luck bro!
Michael Klaser yeah I probably should, the end result doesn't any different to my untrained eye but I'm guessing the camera is a breeze to use compared to 6500. F
I think that using an original E mount lens on the A6500 the AF speed would be better, as the IBIS response with the last firm update.
With APS designed native E mount tele/zoom lenses I´d prefer the A6500 because it is lighter, smaller, his corner viewfinder, integrated flash, but...
I used Sony native lens on A6500 for AF test at 10:19
is the 1080p less sharped, or less detailed? What do you mean by soft? Because the 1080p is so soft comparing to other brands :(
No, it is not soft compared to other brands, I have talked about that here: ua-cam.com/video/VBM18DspDuA/v-deo.html
what camera did you use to record this video!?!?!?!
Panasonic G9, A7 III and A6500.
Very good review. You point out most things every day camera folks want to know.
Also learned something new. I can now use the joystick to move around the menu. I always used the large wheel/pad.
Thank you!
Why not go with the higher resolution Fullframe sensor from Sony...like the A7R3?
Because of pixel binding in 4K video, worse AF and low light performance.
Hello Shooter I use Sony a6500 but I just bought an a7iii, I feel that the body is hot all the time, several degrees more than the a6500, is this normal?
No, that is not normal, A7 III generally has better heat management than A6500, it may be caused by different settings.
@@TheHybridShooter OMG!! :( So my a7iii is defective, the body is very hot all time, I have 2 a6500 and both have a normal temperature, the a7iii feels like a laptop on its bottom
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A7 III is better camera.
@@TheHybridShooter not flip screens a7iii
I know.
Hey Hybrid, thanks for all the effort you put into your high quality videos :)
What are your thoughts on a6500 nowadays?
I'm looking towards buying my first IBIS camera for some run n gun videoshooting
You're welcome, my thoughts are basically the same.
One thing I discovered in moving up from the a6500 to the a7iii is that each of your prime is really two primes due to the ability to go into APSC or super 35 mode. For example, my 25 mm f2 Zeiss is now a 37mm f2.8 Zeiss; the 55 mm f1.8 Zeiss is now a 87 mm f2 Zeiss! So the cost of $1000 for each lens means that you're really paying for two prime lenses!
That is truth, but you also loose resolution when using Super 35, and I would personally rather crop the pictures in post. It is useful for video though.
Yes, it is about 10.2 megapixels.
Are there any third party 70-200 lenses available for the A7iii?
Unfortunately no, only with adapter.
Thank you. I'm waiting for the Tamron to bring out one soon.
That would be great.
What lens do you use to take your thumbnail? This one in particular
For this one I used Leica 12-60mm F2.8-4
The Hybrid Shooter Did you use it at 12, 24 ,60 etc? Looks awesome
That was shot at 29mm.
Does the Sony a6500 have a larger viewfinder than the Sony RX100 V?
Yes.
The Hybrid Shooter yay perfect!
".......... if you want excellent image quality sigma 18-35 and 50-100 art lenses are the only two zoom lenses for crop sensor that can fully utilize the sensor in A6500". That statement seems to contradict your previous sony lens reviews for A 6500 . Was on the fence about the A6500 and now you are effectively saying that to take full advantage of the sensor I need to buy an adapter and add a not so small zoom lens. For those of us that don't have the resources to " buy a couple of primes " whats the point of buying a small body ? I guess the search continues . Love to hear some APS-C alternatives
I'm not sure which reviews you mean, because the only two zoom lenses for APS-C e-mount that I have reviewed are Sigma 18-35mm F1.8 and Sony 16-50mm kit lens and I have never said that the kit lens provides excellent image quality.
High pixel density on crop sensors means that those sensors are very demanding on the lens sharpness. Sony, 18-105 F4 and 18-135 F3.5-5.6 are decent lenses, but only those two Sigma lenses can fully match the sensor capabilities (out of APS-C zoom lenses). That doesn't mean that the image quality with other lenses won't be good enough.
Wow. Great Video. Thank you for making this!
You're welcome, thank you for watching!
Thank you for this excellent video! Did you notice slightly slower and unreliable AF-C in video on the A7 iii with Sigma 16 f/1.4? Sometimes my camera won't focus at all or it will take around 6 seconds for it to focus on a person in the middle of the frame. (With the back of the head facing the camera, so face AF is irrellevant) The kit lens 28-70 isn't much better either and low light AF isn't very good either. Not with the 16mm also. There are two lines at the left and right when I mount the 16mm f1.4 to my A7 iii, what does that mean? When I place the focus point outside the lines the camera cannot focus at all.
On my A7 III the 16mm F1.4 focuses as well as on A6500, I haven't noticed any slow focusing. What AF track sense and drive speed settings did you use? Those make a big difference in the A7III. Regarding those two lines, I think that those mark the AF area in wide setting.
I used responsive and fast settings.
That is interesting, I haven't noticed any of these problems. Even with the kit lens, I found the AF to be really good in low light.
OK - yes I believe you: A7III is better than 6500.BUT: you have to pay not only more for it´s body - the lenses you need then makes it very expensive (min. 5000 Euro). So you have to decide, whether you really need the best (A7iii) or get lucky with a little bit less perfectness (6500). And second: in my opinion I like the less weight and size of 6500+lenses - so I take it with me mostly everywhere and that`s a huge advantage for me. So in conclusion: I don`t critize - you can think so but otherwise you can think different. I would like to have an A7III - but i can`t afford it with the view of follow-up costs and formfactor. Thank you for your effort in making this very good comaparison video!
Thank you for sharing your opinion. A6500 is definitely good budget choice although I definitely haven't spent 5000€ on Sony Full Frame system.
Great video. Thanks for all of your efforts.
You're welcome, thank you for watching!
Both informative and useful. Thanks!
Great Video Hybrid Shooter! Please help me decide, I will only invest $3k max until i pay it off in 2 to 3 years. Which route should I go? I will use the camera for family and hiking purposes. What would be a good combo for $3k budget (cam and lens). Also,.I intend to keep it for 10years what would be the right option. Is FF lenses way more expensive than apsc by how much ratio do you think (same application or equivalent lenses) and do they have like a breakeven point let say after 2 years I can set aside another 1k for additional lenses, down the road which option can i save more. I'm considering fuji xt3 also since its new and lower in cost than a7iii. Pls help 😊
I am still not sure which one to get ...hmmm
Well done for creating that one! Very interesting
Thank you!
Hi to everyone. I ' ve started to shoot weddings and baptisms. I have a sony a6000 with sigma 30mm 1.4.
I want to be upgraded and I am between A7 III and a6500. Worth the difference in money? What are the diffences ? Can I do my job well with The a6500? I capture only photos and no video.
Thanks in advance!
Great review. I'm still attached to my a6500. FF lenses are just too expensive for me at this time. Can you do a video comparison for low light. Also you show a video comparison to a7iii regular mode vs super 35.
This was one excellent video review/comparison.
Thank you, I appreciate your feedback!
u missed one thing. full pixel read out(No pixel binning). a7iii 5k to 4k. but a6500 6k to 4k. I am a editior. So 6500 is better than a7iii in shooting video. sharper footages. and a7iii has warm colour profile as default. check it out. No capturing real nature color. Its a main thing.
No I didn't miss that both cameras have 24 mpix sensor so both shoot 6K downsampled to 4K. A7 III and A6500 have similar sharpness. Your results may be affected by lenses.
Thanks for video, will see what budget I will have to upgrade :D
You're welcome!
What mic for voiceover?
I don't really know to be honest.
@@TheHybridShooter You mean you don't remember which mic you used? Can you please share the one you currently use? I'm about to upgrade my A/V setup and always enjoyed your voice over. While I'm not going to get a Slovak accent, at least I can get close :)
Thank you, I used Rode Videomic Pro, but I don't recommend it, so I am currently searching for the best voiceover mic as well.
@@TheHybridShooter Right on. You seem to have a good budget but the new Deity D3 Pro seems good at $200 for a shotgun. But, since you mainly do voice over, you can always consider a Neumann U 87 which I think would compliment your voice nicely: current.org/2015/06/a-top-audio-engineer-explains-nprs-signature-sound/ I'm sure you're aware but adding some insulation to your room in the form of acoustic treatment will significantly focus your captured audio. If you check my recent video, you can see how an ideal recording corner is set up. For the tightest sound, face into a well-treated corner. Thanks :)
@@TheHybridShooter Hey, just checking up. Not sure if you read that article about NPR voice over workflow. Since I keep thinking about this, I thought I'd mention the RE-20 - it was mentioned in that article - which you've probably heard but I think will also match your voice well at a much more affordable price point when compared to the Neumann U87. Cheers.
How bad is the EFF of the a7 III. Ive got this camera yesterday, but Im worried I cant use the EVF to tell correct sharpness, colours etc? How bat is it?
Well, I can’t really quantify how bad it is, if you already have the camera, I guess that you can see it yourself.
Should I buy A73 with 28-70 kit, or 6500 with 18 135 kit?
Probably the A7 III kit.
@@TheHybridShooter I mean, I've found a deal for a6500 at 1350, and a7 3 kit for 2050, body only 1850, not sure if to buy with another good lens with a cheap price tag(not sure there is). But the Ff, battery life, extra buttons, etc definitely give it advantages
I can't really help you whith that, it depends on you preferences and what you intend to shoot. A7 III is better long term investment though.
@@TheHybridShooter yeah, what would be the point on buying non full frame lenses for 6500 if I'm going to buy a FF later on...
Hi, great video. But I'd like to see one with a comparison of a7/a7ii with a6400... I want to switch my canon 750d to one of those... On the one hand ff is really appealing with it's benefits, but on the other, this cameras are quite old now... Idk what to buy, please help 😅 Btw, I shoot photos almost exclusively
Thank you, I unfortunately don't have A6400 at the moment, but I will try to do that in the future.
@@TheHybridShooter Well, I look forward to it)
Great review, but it would definitely help to add the specs on the screen when you talk about them.
Thank you, the specs are available on Sony's web, if anybody is interested in those.
Great review and production value awesome
Thank you!
Are you going to review the Sony a6400?
It is possible.
and I'm still using the oldest A7 :o
Why not... it't still a good camera.
For photography a a6500 camera is better than the old A7?
if you shoot fast moving subject, sports, then go for a6500 because it has waaaay faster auto focus and 11 fps still. A7 gives you better bokeh but otherwise image quality is not so different.
@@AiurMedia muito obrigado!
Lol im here sitting with an A6000 😂 and wont be upgrading in the next 2 yrs
6xxx series cameras produce similar results in images. You’re fine. It’s a good camera.
Very informative.
Thanks
You're welcome, thank you for watching!
Ahoj, kolega fotil svatbu s tím novým tamronem 28-75mm a dvakrát mu zamrzl autofocus a musel vypnout a zapnout foťák.. ale chvíli trvalo než si toho prej všiml :D tobě se to ještě nestalo?
Ahoj, môj našťastie funguje úplne bez problémov, ale o počul som o tom. Tamron by mal čoskoro vydať nový Firmware, ktorý by to mal opraviť.
oni dokonce stáhli všechny kusy z distribuce dokud nebude ten firmware, což možná chvíli potrvá
Áno, to je pravda, ja som mal asi veľké šťastie.
can the Sony A7III take 4k still at high resolution?
You can pull any frame out of the video in 4K resolution in playback menu.
The Hybrid Shooter thanks, last question will it be jpg processed or raw unprocessed?
Just a JPEG. It is basically like screenshot from the video.
The Hybrid Shooter ok understood thanks
First reason i pick A6000 series is Price and size :D Mirrorless is about weight and its ability to shine ... If i were to pick the Mirrorless the size of DSLR , i will buy DSLR instead .
Weight is far from being the only advantage of mirrorless. And many people actually prefer bigger bodies, especially professionals.
The Hybrid Shooter haha You are right though , however , A6000 series is still a good backup camera for me .
I also like using A6500 as a backup camera a lot.
The Hybrid Shooter i do the same . and it is also my travel camera , i bring it with me everywhere with sigma 30mm f1.4 DN , it is a great kit. . and for that i should thanks you for your great review.. haha without you , i would not know anything about mirrorless world
You're welcome, I'm glad that my videos were helpful to you.
One question. How do I shoot in BULB mode on the A7III. I can not find this option and fireworks are coming :)
You need to decrease shutter speed as much as possible and then you will see BULB option.
Would you say this may be the best budget friendly 4k combo for Sony at the moment?
Depends on what you mean by budget friendly. A7 III and A6500 is good combination IMO, you can remove recording limit form A6500, install timelapse app and get more reach from FF lenses, so it makes sense.
You can remove the recording limit on the A6500?
Yes, you can.
I currently use an a6300, only reason why I'd really want to upgrade to the a7iii is because of the dual card slot and just the overall more professional feel to it.
I really want that a7iii. I think I’m going to sell my a6500 soon. Although I really love the compactness of it.
I am looking to purchase the Sony A7iii.
I will upgrade if Sony will give image stabilization for handheld video shooting and 6o fps 4k .
Both A7 III and A6500 have in body image stabilization and selection of stabilized lenses.
@@TheHybridShooter ya i know that but its not great for handhelds shooting like gh5
That is truth, GH5 and G9 are better in that regard. It would be very difficult to achieve that kind of IBIS with large full frame sensor.
Do you think the A6700 could have 6k 30p?
No, it definitely won't have 6K, and we don't know whether the will make A6700.
What would they make instead of a a6700?
Nothing, or another full frame camera.
Are you sure that the amazon site can be trusted 100%, because in the other shops it cost around €400 more
If it is at least fulfilled by Amazon, it usually very safe, they have very good return policy in case that something goes wrong.
you are from Slovakia ? :)
Yes, I am.
velmi pekne zhrnute :) Aktualne sa snazim zorientovat v menu Sony A7 iii rovnako funkcionalite no moc mi to zatial nejde :D
Ďakujem, ono to chce nejaký čas, v podstate je to celkom logicky zoradené, len je toho dosť veľa a UI nie je nič moc.
here the a6500 is 965$ new and i am looking for second body for my a7R3, oh. Tough.
It is a very good B camera for A7R III.