The reason why Edward Norton left the MCU because he wanted to explore Hulk and Bruce banner's character in detail and wanted to take the character in a serious direction but MCU rejected that.
The people who said "Edward Norton was difficult to work with" are also the same people who hired people who said "Henry Cavill was difficult to work with" because these 2 love the source material and wanted it to be close to it in spirit, if not in execution. Because yes, these works were good, it's why they lasted decades and had staying power, unlike the MCU product.
Henry Cavill is loyal to Source Material and a huge fan from the beginning. Norton just wants an oscar for everything, and studied the Hulk after learning about the role. They're not the same.
I'm trying to contain myself because I tend to rant on this topic. You're 100% correct. There was so much subtle storytelling and world building with this movie, it doesn't deserve to be where it is on the MCU tier list and Norton knocked it out of the park. He knew exactly where he was going with this character. One of the MCU's biggest casualties IMO
100% agree with your take on this. Edward Nortons Hulk is so under-rated. I recently watched it again. The whole time, I was asking myself "why did they move away from this". Hulk was legit scary.
Norton was the truer version of the Hulk, an uncontrollable monster of pure rage. Ruffalo's was like a giant, dumb baby. MCU ruined the character. I wholly agree with your take here! 💯
Norton didn't give shit when it came to rage. ERIC did. You believed it when he cried or growled. Norton just did the "green eyes" and "oh no I can't stop it" face.
Ed Norton for the win all day. The Hulk is a character who is always struggling. Seeing him hassle for a pair of stretchy pants on the street and waking up dirty and lost is 100% Hulk. Having him even set foot on American soil, let alone New York to attend n after party without Ross breathing down his neck is not Hulk. In fact, the very thought of it makes me…hungry. And you wouldn’t like me when I’m hungry.
The 2003 Hulk movie was way ahead of it’s time. Hulk was not just a misunderstood guy with anger issues but a physical manifestation of his trauma. The acting, the story, the effects and transitions *chefs kiss.
2003? That one...is...just awful. It had Banner on the run from the government...and that is pretty much *everything* it has I common with the comics. Absolutely everything else is like the world's most underwhelming acid trip.
@@NoHandlzz Oh yeah. Him dealing with the turmoil caused by his destructive side? Gone. The people who are hurt by Hulk are all actively trying to wrong and harm him. Isolation? Well this version of Bruce has like...a day of that, so there isn't anything to explore. Hulk himself barely even appears. The mutated dogs. Omfg the dogs... His dad's horribly mutilated backstory. Hulk fighting a freaking cloud. Before "Old man yells at clouds", we had "Hulk smashes clouds" I guess...Betty was okay? Idk, this movie fell into obscurity for good reason, and I haven't voluntarily turned on that hot garbage in ages.
@@brendonw456it bothers me that people praise the 2008 Hulk movie as if it was actually that good if I remember correctly the 2008 movie was almost all Hulk being chased by the army anyway, plus the Hulk was much less strong than the 2003 version, plus the background of traumas and the message of fighting against them is much better than Hulk beating up a version of the abomination that came out in the last moments of the movie. plus the 2008 version was a bait in its trailers because we all thought it was a continuation of the 2003 one.
@@brendonw456 Technically you are right. However, at the end (in spite of that incomprehensible fight scene) it FELT like Hulk. Everyone was only interested in what they could get out of him. Hulk didn’t have a friend. There was purpose for Hulk’s action/destruction. There was nuance to fighting. He didn’t destroy and kill wantonly. He considered others’ lives. He shook the tank operators out of the tank. He saved the fighter pilot when he would have crashed into the bridge. Yeah the dogs were random and lame. Many of Hulk’s adversaries were born of the same “gamma” processes that Hulk was so that is a tip of the hat to the source material. I thought if they could combine aspects of the first two Hulk movies and reference the source material more directly, deeply and responsibly it would have been best. It is rather frustrating having been a fan since I was a wee lad.
Ed Nortons Hulk and the film he was in are severly slept on, its criminal. Not only is that movie pretty dang good, but Norton was actually clearly passionate about the serious nuances of Hulk as an allegory for both Prometheus and Jekyll/Hyde
the thing I loved the most about norton hulk is one small dialogue hulk said at the begening fight scene ( leave me alone ) that means he is not just a monster who wants to fight and rage, he is just protecting himself.
Norton was absolutely badass as the Hulk. And, Norton's Hulk was actually TERRIFYING in that 1st scene. The build-up to the first transformation was brilliant!!
Yeah. The first time I say Norton's Hulk rage out all I could think was "Holy crap, that's terrifying!" Watching Ruffalo's Hulk rage out, was like, "Hey, that's pretty cool, right?"
@@CaptainKirkDiggler i agree that Edward Norton's transformations into the Hulk was terrifying and exactly like the 80's TV show. I was not impressed with Rufallo's Hulk transformations and after Marvel making it worse by making this hulk a big joke. Edward Norton's Incredible Hulk is still the best Hulk on the silver screen.
THANK YOU! Finally, somebody recognizes the greatness of the 2008 Incredible Hulk was it the greatest movie? No! But to me, this one is a lot closer to the Bruce Banner/Hulk than any of Mark Ruffalo‘s appearances and I do agree his best one was in the first avengers film! In all honesty, Nortons version is enjoyable for me because I was a child when the late Bill Bixby was on TV with his Incredible Hulk along with Luke Ferrigno that’s another reason I’m biased towards Norton film because it felt like almost a tribute to that show!
Edward Norton was the perfect live action movie adaptation of Bruce Banner, in my opinion. Marvel Studios (looking directly at Kevin Feige) screwed him over. The thing about Norton is that he is not only a remarkable actor, but a damn good writer. And Marvel Studios wasn't interested in Norton's input. Mark Ruffalo is a weak sauce interpretation of Bruce Banner.
I have been saying this for years now, The Incredible Hulk would never be scared of Thanos. Yes, Thanos may have beaten him with the stones but the moment Banner senses that Its Thanos or his Minions attack, The Incredible Hulk would have forced the transformation and attacked Thanos the first chance he gets. HULK IS THE STRONGEST THERE IS. : Hulk vs Wolverine
I love that even though technically they’re the same hulk, everyone’s in agreement that Nortons hulk would have 100% forced Cull and Ebony to jump in to help thanos beat him
I liked Edward's hulk because he was a scientists always searching/looking. Always on the run from himself in search of solace in solitude rather than isolation. Norton was also a comic fiend. He loved comics
@@sagjovial7651 Ruffallo is just bland and dry... Just doesn't fit Banner at all. I've always said this since 2012 when the first avengers movie came out.
Ed was more like Bill Bixby. That's what a lot of people appreciated about him, and he did it without trashing the famous line, "You wouldn't like me when I'm angry." Instead, he played it like a regular guy still trying to learn Portuguese, and that was a brilliant subversion. Not only did it help to humanize Bruce, but it gave the audience some idea of how long it had been since he'd said the woods. Also, the pizza delivery scene. When Lou stands up from the security desk, and you see Ed's face visibly jump back in fear for that fraction of a second, that was peak MCU comedy.
Norton's 2008 Hulk was the best, he looked and behaved exactly the way the Hulk should. In the last 2 Avengers movie, disney destroyed the Hulk and turned him into a snowpuff.
Edward Norton was and always will be the best Hulk. The Incredible Hulk is so underrated and this hulk would have never get so pathetically defeated by Thanos or Iron man.
i so agree with you this Hulk would have mashed Thanos i really loved that Edward Norton Hulk that was Hulk the MCU Hulk is just a water down version of what the Hulk should be unstoppable force
@ Yeah Hulk was always my absolute favorite hero of all time and as I saw what happened to him in the MCU was really sad. Hulk is supposed to be the strongest hero, a force so strong even cosmic gods couldn’t defeat. Someone who is seen as a monster and feared by the public, despite being a force of good that defeats actual evil monsters. Someone who is seen as a villain, despite saving the world countless time and always protect the innocent people although most of them hate him. He gets hunted all the time and didn’t get much appreciation at all, but he never turned evil or backed down for anyone especially villains. And what did we get in the MCU? A pathetic, weak Hulk turned coward after loosing against Thanos. Hulk strength is based on how much rage he has and couple that with super regenerations, it didn’t make any sense why he lost against Thanos or Iron Man or Thor.
I love how in Hulk’s story he’s known to increase in size and become stronger and stronger the angrier he gets and yet it’s never been depicted this way.
Earth’s mightiest heroes nailed bruce banner. He’s a secluded weirdo who lives with a literal monster yelling at him in his head. Norton nailed that perfectly. Banner is supposed to be antisocial and if he does tell a joke, it’s supposed to be awkward. Ruffalo is good but he doesn’t act like he has a bomb strapped to his chest against his will that could go off at any second every moment of his life
I’ve been telling people this! I hated mark ruffalo, even in the avengers. He always felt cringe to me. Everytime he got serious it sounded like he was confused, and every time he wanted to hulk out it was felt forced. Look at the fear in Norton’s eyes when the he’s getting bullied by the group in the bottle factory. The tension he builds. Mark Ruffalo was just body transforming in his scene.
Fine but that's not the thing, Mark Ruffalo plays Bruce banner AMAZINGLY well. Yes the things you don't like...are his literal charector, hers SUPPOSED to be super smart, polite, confused and a little weirdish guy.
@@The_one_that_got_away nah. Ruffalo was too loud. Constantly spitting out too much exposition about himself. Always threatening people with the Hulk. Granted, a lot of it wasn’t his fault, but he barely defined Bruce Banner.
Ruffalo in Avengers 1 was GREAT. He was smart and avoided conflict but was NOT a pushover. He stood on business when he felt called to do so, which gave this HINT to others that you do not want to push this guy. I like THAT hulk/banner dynamic the best
Yeah Black Widow pulled up on him and he was cool as a cucumber and was actually the one with the power in that situation. A cunning mfer. Then after that they made him a big dumb goofy ass character. A disgrace.
MCU HULK is the WORST HULK ... EVER! HULK is not a Kid Friendly Story or a Loveable "Supporting Character" He's a VIOLENT DESTRUCTIVE BEAST!! Intended for Adults!!
I remember in one of the Hulk games you could use a car as boxing gloves and when I saw Norton's Hulk do that I think I actually cheered in the theater
In she-hulk aterny at law Jen had the nerve to say this to Bruce “I’m better at controlling my anger infinity more than you” she didn’t experience the living hell of being a ticking time bomb and having the IBF chasing after you because of it.
Odds are this wont be seen but the reason bruce is a "parkour master" in the 2008 movie is actually another detail to his character and consequences. Not only do they show bruce doing it, they show it actually tripping up the government guys. Bruce MADE that escape route, and he PRACTICED because he knew they might find him. Every part of it was intentional.
Another thing The Incredible Hulk got right that the rest of the MCU didn’t is making Hulk and Banner visually distinct. The MCU Hulk is just Mark Ruffalo but big and green. Norton’s Hulk actually looked monstrous and far from what a normal human would look like.
This, and a few other roles, is why Edward Norton will always be one of my favorite actors. The guy knows how to act, he knows how to sell emotion and convey that through the story he is given, and it's a crime to me that his role in this movie isn't talked about more. Hell, him as an actor isn't talked about more than he should be. He was the perfect choice for Hulk then, and I'd be happy to see him in another. I doubt he will, but it'd be cool to see him return.
The Incredible Hulk is one of my favorite movies, it was really good up to the final scene and oh boy was that what truly made me respect the movie! The fight between Hulk and Abomination is one of the best CGI fights ive ever seen, you can feel the speed and power of every punch, the intent behind every move, the way they fight like wild beasts strong beyond reason is immaculate, not to mention how it all still holds up today just like Davy Jones still dones. That was peak!
I always preferred Norton’s Hulk, idc what anyone says that movie fucking rules. Not saying I don’t like Ruffalo’s, I actually loved the way he was in the first avengers movie. However they completely butchered his character starting with how he was in AOU. His character in the first movie had a level of confidence in himself, he didn’t want to hurt anyone but he let it be known that he would not be pushed around. Ruffalo played him so perfectly in the first movie but they just took the Whedon formula and ran with it like with the others. I hate the way he is now and now we may never get to see that Bruce Banner or the classic savage hulk ever again
I agree 100%, Norton is my favorite Hulk, but looking at how MCU has ruined the Hulk (and Thor!) over time, maybe it was good that Edward Norton was spared that same humiliation (instead, ruffalo will take most of it).
Isn't it funny how we hear a tale such as Norton wanted to change the script so he was hard to work with, etc... we paint him in a negative light almost but upon the last 10 years you realize that there are no writers in film... And then you realize that they and the producers were actually problem.
I love Edward Nortons Hulk. The performance of was amazing, the story told you the misery he was forced into by being a fugitive, and the hulk was treated like the threat he was meant to be.
Is Betty ever mentioned in the sequels? The isolation Bruce suffers and his separation from Betty is what made Norton Hulk/Banner compelling. Plus, I do not ship Bruce with Natasha.
I've been saying this since the beginning! Edward Nortons Hulk movie is the best! Glad to see you and all the other Marc Ruffulo fan boys finally come around to reality!
I might be in the minority here but I loved the 2003 HULK, I put that ahead of Mark Ruffalo’s hulk but no hulk tops Edward Norton’s hulk. 2003 Hulk literally felt like we were literally watching a comic book movie it was amazing and still holds up to this day.
In a way, you could say The Incredible Hulk focuses a lot more on the tragedy of what it's like to be the host of Hulk. In the Avengers Bruce is just a means to an end of an action spectacle.
Eric Bana. Seriously, the 2003 movie includes Banner's abusive childhood - something the later Hulks lack, that tragic element that precedes the advent of the Hulk. It is an important element to the character, because it is why Savage Hulk is the way he is. The main problem with that movie was the pacing - but its rendition of Hulk was pretty spot on.
Edward Norton's Incredible Hulk is the best Hulk ever to be seen on the silver screen. Everything about this movie is exactly how Bruce Banner would act if he was on the run, hiding from the US army, finding a cure for himself. The stress and the huge amount of fear that he can lose his temper and transform into the monster and put people in danger. That's what the Hulk is all about and this movie captured all of that. The Hulk looks amazing in this movie, loved those lit up green eyes when he transforms ( a nod to the Hulk tv series back in the 80's). We at least got this one movie. I hope to live to see a "sequal" or a " reboot" but that is highly unlikely to happen now Disney owns Marvel.
Yes, I loved Edward Nortons. He needed a trilogy. Hulk should've been a loner, never fitting in. Never becoming smart hulk. The best MCU hulk is hulk in the first avengers because he was just an extension of the Norton Hulk.
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The reason why Edward Norton left the MCU because he wanted to explore Hulk and Bruce banner's character in detail and wanted to take the character in a serious direction but MCU rejected that.
Disney hate strong masculine serious alpha males
@@alsimmonshellspawn6021 for nowadays, it's true.
What's your source?
@@MorrisMeynolt check it out on internet
@@alsimmonshellspawn6021 Well guess what. Number one Disney is a PG company & Elon Musk is now a thing so say goodbye to the wokeness
The people who said "Edward Norton was difficult to work with" are also the same people who hired people who said "Henry Cavill was difficult to work with" because these 2 love the source material and wanted it to be close to it in spirit, if not in execution. Because yes, these works were good, it's why they lasted decades and had staying power, unlike the MCU product.
Henry Cavill is loyal to Source Material and a huge fan from the beginning. Norton just wants an oscar for everything, and studied the Hulk after learning about the role. They're not the same.
Edward Norton hit the comic book Banner perfectly.
This current hulk, makes me angry.
I'm trying to contain myself because I tend to rant on this topic. You're 100% correct. There was so much subtle storytelling and world building with this movie, it doesn't deserve to be where it is on the MCU tier list and Norton knocked it out of the park. He knew exactly where he was going with this character.
One of the MCU's biggest casualties IMO
Edward Norton's Hulk is definitely the most underrated, my personal favourite.
100% agree with your take on this. Edward Nortons Hulk is so under-rated. I recently watched it again. The whole time, I was asking myself "why did they move away from this". Hulk was legit scary.
Ed Norton Hulk looks better in every way 😀
Agree 💯💯💯 Mark's Hulk looks like had a down syndrome and looks weak against Thanos 👎
Norton was the truer version of the Hulk, an uncontrollable monster of pure rage.
Ruffalo's was like a giant, dumb baby.
MCU ruined the character.
I wholly agree with your take here! 💯
Norton didn't give shit when it came to rage. ERIC did. You believed it when he cried or growled. Norton just did the "green eyes" and "oh no I can't stop it" face.
Just imagine Norton delivering the "I'm always angry" line. You would see that repressed anger in his eyes. Ruffalo looked bored saying that.
Ed Norton for the win all day. The Hulk is a character who is always struggling. Seeing him hassle for a pair of stretchy pants on the street and waking up dirty and lost is 100% Hulk. Having him even set foot on American soil, let alone New York to attend n after party without Ross breathing down his neck is not Hulk. In fact, the very thought of it makes me…hungry. And you wouldn’t like me when I’m hungry.
What will happen if ur hungry
@@_trafalgar Aplastaré el sabor con grande apetito!!
The 2003 Hulk movie was way ahead of it’s time. Hulk was not just a misunderstood guy with anger issues but a physical manifestation of his trauma. The acting, the story, the effects and transitions *chefs kiss.
2003? That one...is...just awful. It had Banner on the run from the government...and that is pretty much *everything* it has I common with the comics.
Absolutely everything else is like the world's most underwhelming acid trip.
@@brendonw456 thats the ONLY thing it had in common with the comics?
@@NoHandlzz Oh yeah.
Him dealing with the turmoil caused by his destructive side? Gone. The people who are hurt by Hulk are all actively trying to wrong and harm him.
Isolation? Well this version of Bruce has like...a day of that, so there isn't anything to explore.
Hulk himself barely even appears.
The mutated dogs. Omfg the dogs...
His dad's horribly mutilated backstory.
Hulk fighting a freaking cloud. Before "Old man yells at clouds", we had "Hulk smashes clouds"
I guess...Betty was okay? Idk, this movie fell into obscurity for good reason, and I haven't voluntarily turned on that hot garbage in ages.
@@brendonw456it bothers me that people praise the 2008 Hulk movie as if it was actually that good if I remember correctly the 2008 movie was almost all Hulk being chased by the army anyway, plus the Hulk was much less strong than the 2003 version, plus the background of traumas and the message of fighting against them is much better than Hulk beating up a version of the abomination that came out in the last moments of the movie. plus the 2008 version was a bait in its trailers because we all thought it was a continuation of the 2003 one.
@@brendonw456 Technically you are right. However, at the end (in spite of that incomprehensible fight scene) it FELT like Hulk. Everyone was only interested in what they could get out of him. Hulk didn’t have a friend. There was purpose for Hulk’s action/destruction. There was nuance to fighting. He didn’t destroy and kill wantonly. He considered others’ lives. He shook the tank operators out of the tank. He saved the fighter pilot when he would have crashed into the bridge.
Yeah the dogs were random and lame. Many of Hulk’s adversaries were born of the same “gamma” processes that Hulk was so that is a tip of the hat to the source material.
I thought if they could combine aspects of the first two Hulk movies and reference the source material more directly, deeply and responsibly it would have been best. It is rather frustrating having been a fan since I was a wee lad.
i don't really read comics, but ed norton made me fall in love with hulk
And rural made it seem like you are watching a strongman Shrek
he went from the incredible hulk to the incredible joke
The last time we saw the real Hulk was in Age of Ultron, then Disney was to blame for hiring a comedy director to kill him.
The Incredible Hulk is actually my favourite MCU movie. Glad to see more and more people appreciate it now
Edward's Hulk was always my favorite. Massive and SAVAGE.
MCU ruined the Hulk especially with making Planet Hulk into a joke movie.
Norton's version of Hulk is THE best its just pure anger savage Hulk exactly what Hulk is.
Agree bro. And the struggle he has to go through everyday just told back his anger
@@777kerokeropi4 Exactly.
The Incredible Hulk of 2008 is such a great and underrated movie.
That was probably what Norton was fighting about, the quality of the character.
Ed Nortons Hulk and the film he was in are severly slept on, its criminal. Not only is that movie pretty dang good, but Norton was actually clearly passionate about the serious nuances of Hulk as an allegory for both Prometheus and Jekyll/Hyde
the thing I loved the most about norton hulk is one small dialogue hulk said at the begening fight scene ( leave me alone ) that means he is not just a monster who wants to fight and rage, he is just protecting himself.
@@sornagedl4407 Well said. Another great point.
Norton was absolutely badass as the Hulk. And, Norton's Hulk was actually TERRIFYING in that 1st scene. The build-up to the first transformation was brilliant!!
Yeah. The first time I say Norton's Hulk rage out all I could think was "Holy crap, that's terrifying!"
Watching Ruffalo's Hulk rage out, was like, "Hey, that's pretty cool, right?"
@@CaptainKirkDiggler i agree that Edward Norton's transformations into the Hulk was terrifying and exactly like the 80's TV show. I was not impressed with Rufallo's Hulk transformations and after Marvel making it worse by making this hulk a big joke. Edward Norton's Incredible Hulk is still the best Hulk on the silver screen.
if thanos punched Norton's hulk, he'd just get more pissed off
The Incredible Hulk 2008 is very underrated
Your confused about over vs under!
@@timnoyb2431it's definitely underrated
Edward Norton is a better Bruce Banner and the incredible Hulk looks better, ripped and more monster than the Ruffalo-Hulk... In my opinion.
Nah Edward as hulk is best and mark as banner is best
Debatable. Mark Ruggalo's performance as Banner is way Banner.
THANK YOU! Finally, somebody recognizes the greatness of the 2008 Incredible Hulk was it the greatest movie? No! But to me, this one is a lot closer to the Bruce Banner/Hulk than any of Mark Ruffalo‘s appearances and I do agree his best one was in the first avengers film!
In all honesty, Nortons version is enjoyable for me because I was a child when the late Bill Bixby was on TV with his Incredible Hulk along with Luke Ferrigno that’s another reason I’m biased towards Norton film because it felt like almost a tribute to that show!
Edward norton is the best version of hulk and I never thought ruffalo’s even came close .
Agreed
I really like Edward Norton's portrayal of Bruce Banner and the Hulk. He shows his inner conflict within himself like Jekyll and Hyde.
Edward Norton was the perfect live action movie adaptation of Bruce Banner, in my opinion. Marvel Studios (looking directly at Kevin Feige) screwed him over. The thing about Norton is that he is not only a remarkable actor, but a damn good writer. And Marvel Studios wasn't interested in Norton's input. Mark Ruffalo is a weak sauce interpretation of Bruce Banner.
I agree 💯
1 Edward Norton
2 Mark Ruffalo
3 Eric Bana
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Edward norton
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Eric Bana and Edward Norton really respected the Hulk.
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I've always Been a fan of the 2008 Hulk & never changed
Amen 🙏🏼
I have been saying this for years now, The Incredible Hulk would never be scared of Thanos. Yes, Thanos may have beaten him with the stones but the moment Banner senses that Its Thanos or his Minions attack, The Incredible Hulk would have forced the transformation and attacked Thanos the first chance he gets. HULK IS THE STRONGEST THERE IS. : Hulk vs Wolverine
Exactly
The Incredible Hulk is the ideal and original concept of hulk, who he is, and he should be
I love that even though technically they’re the same hulk, everyone’s in agreement that Nortons hulk would have 100% forced Cull and Ebony to jump in to help thanos beat him
I liked Edward's hulk because he was a scientists always searching/looking. Always on the run from himself in search of solace in solitude rather than isolation.
Norton was also a comic fiend. He loved comics
Banner is a haunted man and Norton played that to the T.
He also reminded me a lot of Bill Bixby's performance.
Disney fans who have bitched about Edward Nortons Banner have clearly never read a comic.
Idk man, I read comics all the time and I don't like Norton's hulk for a multitude of reasons, comics don't have anything to do with it.
@@sagjovial7651 Ruffallo is just bland and dry... Just doesn't fit Banner at all. I've always said this since 2012 when the first avengers movie came out.
The fact that the hulk never got a sequel proves norton’s point
Ed was more like Bill Bixby. That's what a lot of people appreciated about him, and he did it without trashing the famous line, "You wouldn't like me when I'm angry." Instead, he played it like a regular guy still trying to learn Portuguese, and that was a brilliant subversion. Not only did it help to humanize Bruce, but it gave the audience some idea of how long it had been since he'd said the woods. Also, the pizza delivery scene. When Lou stands up from the security desk, and you see Ed's face visibly jump back in fear for that fraction of a second, that was peak MCU comedy.
The Norton movie I feel nailed the paranoia of Banners character and is a major part missing in the newer movies
Norton's 2008 Hulk was the best, he looked and behaved exactly the way the Hulk should. In the last 2 Avengers movie, disney destroyed the Hulk and turned him into a snowpuff.
Best comment yet! You hit it right on the head!
I AGREE 100%
I DEMAND REMATCH BETWEEN THANOS AND 2008 HULK.
id say ruffalo banner suffers from disney writing more than anything
Edward Norton was and always will be the best Hulk. The Incredible Hulk is so underrated and this hulk would have never get so pathetically defeated by Thanos or Iron man.
i so agree with you this Hulk would have mashed Thanos i really loved that Edward Norton Hulk that was Hulk the MCU Hulk is just a water down version of what the Hulk should be unstoppable force
@ Yeah Hulk was always my absolute favorite hero of all time and as I saw what happened to him in the MCU was really sad. Hulk is supposed to be the strongest hero, a force so strong even cosmic gods couldn’t defeat. Someone who is seen as a monster and feared by the public, despite being a force of good that defeats actual evil monsters. Someone who is seen as a villain, despite saving the world countless time and always protect the innocent people although most of them hate him. He gets hunted all the time and didn’t get much appreciation at all, but he never turned evil or backed down for anyone especially villains. And what did we get in the MCU? A pathetic, weak Hulk turned coward after loosing against Thanos. Hulk strength is based on how much rage he has and couple that with super regenerations, it didn’t make any sense why he lost against Thanos or Iron Man or Thor.
Honestly, every frame of ed nortons Bruce looks like he's in deep and unspoken pain, pain he can't express or he'll hurt people, perfect for the huĺk
Mark ruffalo was great in the first avengers. Every movie and series after, he gets worse and worse. Hulk from the incredible hulk is the best hulk.
I have been saying this for years!! Mark is watered down Hulk and Edward is the Hulk we deserve.
The hulk is one of marvel’s biggest fuck ups Edward nortons hulk should’ve never been touched imagine Edward Norton’s planet hulk
I love how in Hulk’s story he’s known to increase in size and become stronger and stronger the angrier he gets and yet it’s never been depicted this way.
That’s how it was in the first hulk movie , I think 2003
Glad to see Nortons hulk getting some love! I remember being obsessed with this movie growing up
Earth’s mightiest heroes nailed bruce banner. He’s a secluded weirdo who lives with a literal monster yelling at him in his head. Norton nailed that perfectly. Banner is supposed to be antisocial and if he does tell a joke, it’s supposed to be awkward. Ruffalo is good but he doesn’t act like he has a bomb strapped to his chest against his will that could go off at any second every moment of his life
I’ve been telling people this! I hated mark ruffalo, even in the avengers. He always felt cringe to me. Everytime he got serious it sounded like he was confused, and every time he wanted to hulk out it was felt forced.
Look at the fear in Norton’s eyes when the he’s getting bullied by the group in the bottle factory. The tension he builds.
Mark Ruffalo was just body transforming in his scene.
Fine but that's not the thing, Mark Ruffalo plays Bruce banner AMAZINGLY well.
Yes the things you don't like...are his literal charector, hers SUPPOSED to be super smart, polite, confused and a little weirdish guy.
@@The_one_that_got_away nah. Ruffalo was too loud. Constantly spitting out too much exposition about himself. Always threatening people with the Hulk.
Granted, a lot of it wasn’t his fault, but he barely defined Bruce Banner.
Thank you! We finally have a mature discussion on the best Hulk adaptation.
Marvel made me hate the Hulk. Used to be my favorite superhero even above batman.
Edward Norton made hulk my 2nd favorite hero (no one can top spidey as my no.1 lol)
Avengers Hulk can both voluntarily transform but can also involuntarily transform. This was foreshadowed at the very end of The Incredible Hulk.
Norton is the best live action Bruce Banner closest to the comics, and his version of the Hulk was amazing. My favorite Hulk movie.
Ruffalo in Avengers 1 was GREAT. He was smart and avoided conflict but was NOT a pushover. He stood on business when he felt called to do so, which gave this HINT to others that you do not want to push this guy. I like THAT hulk/banner dynamic the best
Yeah Black Widow pulled up on him and he was cool as a cucumber and was actually the one with the power in that situation. A cunning mfer. Then after that they made him a big dumb goofy ass character. A disgrace.
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MCU HULK is the WORST HULK ... EVER!
HULK is not a Kid Friendly Story or a Loveable "Supporting Character"
He's a VIOLENT DESTRUCTIVE BEAST!! Intended for Adults!!
He was soo good until infinity war still my favorite hulk
SAY IT LOUDER!
I remember in one of the Hulk games you could use a car as boxing gloves and when I saw Norton's Hulk do that I think I actually cheered in the theater
I preferred Edward Norton the best, because he's the most savage Hulk of all than Mark Ruffalo.
the idea of the hulk and banner merging and banner coming to control the hulk is a fine character arc. the problem is that it happens OFF SCREEN.
To be fair, the Norton movie did end with him gaining some control so that checks out
I hope they bring back ed Norton hulk in an alternate universe type thing
I think he retired
Mark's hulk was cool but later became a joke.
I’ve always thought the Edward Norton Hulk was Underrated but after this it’s serverly underrated
In she-hulk aterny at law Jen had the nerve to say this to Bruce “I’m better at controlling my anger infinity more than you” she didn’t experience the living hell of being a ticking time bomb and having the IBF chasing after you because of it.
Odds are this wont be seen but the reason bruce is a "parkour master" in the 2008 movie is actually another detail to his character and consequences. Not only do they show bruce doing it, they show it actually tripping up the government guys. Bruce MADE that escape route, and he PRACTICED because he knew they might find him. Every part of it was intentional.
we should all write fan mail to Edward Norton, I just love how much public respect from fans he has over ruffalo it’s so funny.
Another thing The Incredible Hulk got right that the rest of the MCU didn’t is making Hulk and Banner visually distinct. The MCU Hulk is just Mark Ruffalo but big and green. Norton’s Hulk actually looked monstrous and far from what a normal human would look like.
Ed Norton is the best Hulk hands down 😊
Couldn't agree more.
They turned Hulk into a complete joke, and Norton wouldn't have wanted to have any part in that anyway.
Epic film, the artist behind the Hulk in this film deserve immense praise.
No Hulk has looked better since.
Never gonna forgive them for giving away arguably the gretaest Hulk story to Thor.
This, and a few other roles, is why Edward Norton will always be one of my favorite actors. The guy knows how to act, he knows how to sell emotion and convey that through the story he is given, and it's a crime to me that his role in this movie isn't talked about more. Hell, him as an actor isn't talked about more than he should be. He was the perfect choice for Hulk then, and I'd be happy to see him in another. I doubt he will, but it'd be cool to see him return.
They gave Hulk that disney treament.
It's sad to see it.
Just like Star Wars .
It’s torture watching new hulk
Finally someone else gets it. The Incredible Hulk was the best and helped established the MCU.
Edward Norton feels like a hulk from a Transformers movie, And Mark's from a Disney movie
I miss the lonely guy traveling town to town
Bruh there was nothing more badass to me than Hulk fighting Abomination in the old Hulk movie. Hulk is an extra at this point in the MCU.
I absolutely agree with every point in this Video we went from The Incredible Hulk to the incredible joke 😢
The Incredible Hulk is one of my favorite movies, it was really good up to the final scene and oh boy was that what truly made me respect the movie!
The fight between Hulk and Abomination is one of the best CGI fights ive ever seen, you can feel the speed and power of every punch, the intent behind every move, the way they fight like wild beasts strong beyond reason is immaculate, not to mention how it all still holds up today just like Davy Jones still dones.
That was peak!
Nortons Hulk from top to bottom we need back all the way!!
Also... lou ferrigno, the OG hulk makes a cameo.
And for a brief moment you get the 1970s lonely man music.
Nort is the GOAT hulk
I always preferred Norton’s Hulk, idc what anyone says that movie fucking rules. Not saying I don’t like Ruffalo’s, I actually loved the way he was in the first avengers movie. However they completely butchered his character starting with how he was in AOU. His character in the first movie had a level of confidence in himself, he didn’t want to hurt anyone but he let it be known that he would not be pushed around. Ruffalo played him so perfectly in the first movie but they just took the Whedon formula and ran with it like with the others. I hate the way he is now and now we may never get to see that Bruce Banner or the classic savage hulk ever again
Even the design of hulk is waaaaay better than what the mcu has done
I agree 100%, Norton is my favorite Hulk, but looking at how MCU has ruined the Hulk (and Thor!) over time, maybe it was good that Edward Norton was spared that same humiliation (instead, ruffalo will take most of it).
Isn't it funny how we hear a tale such as Norton wanted to change the script so he was hard to work with, etc... we paint him in a negative light almost but upon the last 10 years you realize that there are no writers in film... And then you realize that they and the producers were actually problem.
Ruffalo’s hulk look like a gorilla.
I love Edward Nortons Hulk. The performance of was amazing, the story told you the misery he was forced into by being a fugitive, and the hulk was treated like the threat he was meant to be.
Is Betty ever mentioned in the sequels?
The isolation Bruce suffers and his separation from Betty is what made Norton Hulk/Banner compelling.
Plus, I do not ship Bruce with Natasha.
@theashwoodfaerie Good to know she will return.
Glad to hear some more support for Incredible Hulk. I loved the strong emotional core it had - I felt so bad for him the whole time.
Edward Norton's physique also matches the physique of Bruce Banner in the comics.
You mean the human character or the Hulk character .But if the human then yeah they match
At least the animated Planet Hulk was a killer little film
I dont think world breaker hulk is possible with ruffalo's hulk.
We need Norton's version of hulk in secret war and he's gone berserk
I've been saying this since the beginning! Edward Nortons Hulk movie is the best! Glad to see you and all the other Marc Ruffulo fan boys finally come around to reality!
They made Hulk another cheap joke in the avenger series, Hulk should be frightening not a joker
I might be in the minority here but I loved the 2003 HULK, I put that ahead of Mark Ruffalo’s hulk but no hulk tops Edward Norton’s hulk. 2003 Hulk literally felt like we were literally watching a comic book movie it was amazing and still holds up to this day.
In a way, you could say The Incredible Hulk focuses a lot more on the tragedy of what it's like to be the host of Hulk. In the Avengers Bruce is just a means to an end of an action spectacle.
Eric Bana. Seriously, the 2003 movie includes Banner's abusive childhood - something the later Hulks lack, that tragic element that precedes the advent of the Hulk. It is an important element to the character, because it is why Savage Hulk is the way he is.
The main problem with that movie was the pacing - but its rendition of Hulk was pretty spot on.
Edward Norton's Incredible Hulk is the best Hulk ever to be seen on the silver screen. Everything about this movie is exactly how Bruce Banner would act if he was on the run, hiding from the US army, finding a cure for himself. The stress and the huge amount of fear that he can lose his temper and transform into the monster and put people in danger. That's what the Hulk is all about and this movie captured all of that. The Hulk looks amazing in this movie, loved those lit up green eyes when he transforms ( a nod to the Hulk tv series back in the 80's). We at least got this one movie. I hope to live to see a "sequal" or a " reboot" but that is highly unlikely to happen now Disney owns Marvel.
We didn’t deserve The Incredible Hulk movie.
Yes, I loved Edward Nortons. He needed a trilogy. Hulk should've been a loner, never fitting in. Never becoming smart hulk. The best MCU hulk is hulk in the first avengers because he was just an extension of the Norton Hulk.