I will always think of the 2003 tie in video game as the unofficial Hulk 2, as the story takes place 8 years after the film. I used to play it on PS2 all the time
The hulk games were so much fun, especially the incredible hulk one. I always love the open world super hero games (incredible hulk, spiderman 2,3, and ultimate, superman returns, the whole arkham series.). I would love something similar to the ultimate alliance games, but open world where depending on the hero you’re playing as, the repeatable crimes would differ, like if you’re playing street level, you mostly take out thugs mugging people, carjackers, bank robberies ect. (Some with supervillainslike shocker or rhino aiding regular guys), and once every few random crimes a supervillain plot. If you’re playing avengers level, you’re facing terrorists, natural disasters, and supervillain plots. If you’re playing a cosmic level character (silver surfer, sentry, ect,) then it’s supervillain plots/natural disasters being as common as muggings for street level, with random event threats like galactus, kang, skrulls, or thanos being the rare ones.
@@marcusmyers4822The problem with that game while it is a great idea is that, the gameplay mechanics are so completely different for the different characters, that these games are never able to find a good medium ground with it. Like how about a semi open world Avengers game where you have Iron Man mentoring Spider Man in NY. T’Challa and Shuri in Wakanda. Captain America on a mission in London. Thor and Captain Marvel vs Skrulls somewhere in space like maybe the dead celestial head Knowhere, and for the fun part Hulk in the void. The point is that you have these 5 different maps and stories that you beat the NY portion first than you can choose the order of the other ones to play in as they all will leave off with a cliffhanger involving needing to contact Avengers HQ. At which point you can a final portion of where they are all teaming up which would eventually lead to the void for the Endgame. The scale of the open world for each would have to be scaled back of course. Gameplay wise flying mechanics between Iron Man, Thor, and Captain Marvel should be able to be similar enough to fit in same engine with tweaks to each character. Like Iron Man would be a little more mechanical and sudden in his accelerate and decelerate action, whereas Captain Marvel would be super fluid, and Thor in between. The boomerang physics for throwing Cap shield should be similar to that of Thor hammer. On the street level Spider-Man, Cap, T’Challa, and Shuri should all have similar silky smooth and fast movement abilities that are also great for stealth. Spider-Man web shooting is unique but would not need to be super in depth, and a similar mechanic can be used for other characters to shoot a grappling gun, like Black Widow would in the $DLC of course. But T’Challa and Shuri should be able to scale a wall very similar to Spidey. Hulk would be just the classic button smashing brute. And the best part is once you beat the game you unlock the greatest hero of them all, the guy who saved the Avengers and he entire universe, Look Out For The Little Guy, and you unlock Scott Lang’s Ant Man. All jokes aside I don’t know how Ant-Man abilities could fit into a team game like this but for a solo game he would make for a crazy good one being able to shrink and grow in size could be exploited for some really creative things.
My copy I borrowed from the Video Ezy was buggy, couldn't load cutscenes :( the only way I could see the whole game was if I used the maximum strength cheat to one-shot bosses 😭
It’s crazy how early they had interest in Red Hulk for the MCU because of the fact that he had only been introduced in 2008 and that they had already interest in making him a villain for a future movie
@@billtree52Killmonger is completely different from T’Challa and he only wears BP outfit a little bit at end where obviously he would look like T’Challa because he had the mantle then, same way Shuri looked like him because she now has the mantle. And Whiplash looks absolutely nothing like Iron-Man so I don’t even know what to say to that.
Hulk was/is one of the pillars of Marvel. One of the most popular and beloved characters they have. The way they've disrespected him in the MCU is absolutely wild. One single solo movie, and then Planet Hulk is turned into a Thor movie, and Red Hulk and the Leader and Sabra is in a Captain America movie. The last time we saw him actually turn from Bruce into the Hulk was in The Avengers. That's his thing, and we haven't seen it in over a decade.
Good point, everyone in the Avengers had a standalone movie post Iron Man except the Hulk. He's just been used as a side character. Even She-Hulk got her own series.
As I understand it, Marvel got with Ruffalo at one point and had a discussion, saying, “We can’t give you a solo film because of rights stuff with Universal, but we want to give Hulk an arc across three films,” and after talking to Mark about where they wanted to take the character and where he was interested in taking him, that ended up being the story across Thor: Ragnarok, Infinity War, and Endgame, which each borrowed heavily from Hulk plots in the comics. Nevermind that they really glossed over the resolution of the arc in Endgame, but otherwise I think it was a smart move on their part to retain creative control of the character while also giving him more than just cameos in team up films. And to date, I think his storyline in Thor: Ragnarok is one of the most enjoyable appearances of the Hulk in movies.
@justinarzola4584 Hulk deserves to be a top-level character like Spider-Man, but studios don't see value, and people think that Hulk is overrated. It's sad
back in the 70s and 80s Hulk was the #1 marvel character because of the tv show. People forget that even normies knew about the hulk back then. I would say the big 3 were Superman, Batman and Hulk.
It's crazy how after all these years, we are finally gonna see the Leader and Red Hulk not in a Hulk movie, but in a Captain America one. Thanks for another "Incredible" episode bro. You never cease to amaze me.
@@cable7152 Red Hulk looks like what i expected putting the actors face in the monster making it look uncanny and weird instead of separating the monster and the human like the Incredible Hulk did and idk how the Leader is practical we haven’t seen anything about his design
If Universal ever gives up the distribution rights because Disney and Marvel still can't make a Hulk movie due to Universal still owning the distribution rights
The one I wanted most was The Incredible Hulk 2 with Norton. While Leterrier said Norton’s script for the first movie was long and had less hulk, Norton was still a big fan of the character. He wanted to do the character justice and even helped with the Hulk’s fight choreography, showing he didn’t have a problem with action. I think Norton would’ve returned for the sequel if Marvel had just left a few more integral scenes in the first film. I appreciate what Norton was trying to capture with the character’s struggles, which I believe fits unlike where the MCU took Hulk. Ruffalo doesn’t seem to care what Marvel does to the character as long as he gets a paycheck.
No knock on Ruffalo, but he could be replaced by anyone and I don't think it would have made much of a difference. I'm a huge fan of Norton as an actor, he's extremely passionate about everything he does (to his own detriment in some cases).
WAS PROPERLY ANGRY WHEN THEY REPLACED NORTON. IVE A MASSIVE SOFT SPOT FOR HIS MOVIE... BRILLIANT CAST. GREAT DYNAMICS AND CHEMISTRY... FEW EASTER EGG NODS TO THE BIXBY ERA AND COMICS
@@vmunit2931It seems that way now, but not for the first Avengers movie Ruffalo really nailed the aura of a recluse Bruce on the loose with his neck in a noose. That’s why he was able to nonchalantly deliver one of the most epic lines in the entire MCU when he turned and said, “That’s my secret, I’m always angry.”
Mark Ruffalo, David Duchovny, Dominic Purcell, Joaquin Phoenix And Liev Schreiber Were All Considered For The Role Of The Hulk Before Edward Norton Was Cast
@@Alf-gm7tf He only got the role because Norton was hard to work with though, if he is happy enough being second best, I guess he did win in the end..........
I would of loved to have seen all three of these versions, especially Ang Lee’s Hulk 2, that movie is really underrated and I love all the character work that was being explored
@bensneb360 Here's what I'd do with a potential Incredible Hulk sequel. Keep in mind, this would be in an MCU where Marvel had the rights of all their characters instead of selling them. An Incredible Hulk sequel would have Hulk on the run with the Leader as the villain, but the secondary villains would be Weapon X soldiers which are Wolverine, Sabretooth, Omega Red, Deadpool and Lady Deathstrike tasked by Thunderbolt Ross to find Hulk. Wolverine would leave the team to help Hulk in stopping the Leader's gamma mutant plans in the third act while the other Weapon X members would get brainwashed, mutated, and eventually escape after stopping the Leader (this combines the Hulk vs. Wolverine animated movie and the Gamma World two-parter from Earth's Mightiest Heroes with Wolverine taking Hawkeye's place in that film). A post-credits scene would show Wolverine being recruited by the X-Men setting up the Giant-Size X-Men roster in that movie's sequel.
@@Bulletsandblockbusters Especially since Ross was always such an interesting antagonist to me because he didn't have any powers at all. He's just a regular guy, who happens to be in a position that makes Bruce's life hell. That's interesting. Having Ross turn himself into a red Hulk is just flat out boring and generic. I didn't like it in the comics, and I probably won't like it on film either. Just feels like a waste of such a good character dynamic to dumb it down to a 'hero fights evil version of himself' trope.
Perfect topic you’re covering here!!! I’ve been wanting to ask this for a few weeks now but with Kang Dynasty scrapped and us knowing plot details about the film you should make a video about what Kang Dynasty could have been since I’d LOVE to see that!
You've become quite the replacement for Midnight's Edge, which used to make similar retrospective videos on unmade installments to franchises. Now, they hardly make, videos like this anymore. Thank you, along with Supervoid Cinema, for making videos like this.
Great video! I have always wondered what Bruce’s character could’ve been if Norton had stayed on, but the fact he’s apparently hard to work with speaks dozens about him. Fun fact though, and ironically, Mark Ruffalo, while not Marvel’s, was Louis Letterier’s first choice to play Banner in The Incredible Hulk. It’s kinda funny cause he obviously became the new Hulk actor and then the two ended up working together on Now You See Me.
@@bullymaguire3385Norton is the better actor compared to Ruffalo. No question about it. But he is quite a picky guy. He pick limited role that he feel strongly about and knew that it’s right for him, which is fine and all hence why he was amazing in birdman and many more. But maybe that wouldn’t fit right in an ensemble cast movie like The Avengers where you share the screen. Or that he has to contractually obligate to play in numerous other Marvel projects.
@@yappaplay I understand but i believe Marvel gave him some control in the Incredible Hulk they could’ve done the same in team up movies but only for his character
Ang Lee's Hulk is the best Hulk cinematographic adaptation we got. Bruce Banner and the Hulk psychodynamics with themselves and with others throughout their upbringing are very deeply explored. It is also the most comic accurate Hulk since he grows every time he gets angry. I would have loved to see a direct sequel to it, even thought I always thought The Incredible Hulk (2008) was a sequel. I believe that if superhero movies delved deeper into the characters relationship dynamics and human psych, more interest would grow and fatigue would lower.
Everything except the ending is good, but Ang Lee can never seem to help himself from getting lost up his own a$$ with heady pseudopsychology nonsense, regardless of the movie he's making. 🤷
I wished we got Incredible Hulk 2 in 2013 Edward Norton may have not returned but Mark rufflo could have even making a trilogy wrapping the 4 main mcu charchters
Mark Ruffalo Is HULK! Thee Best Hulk. They need to stop B.S.ing and make another Hulk Movie. Hulk Is MCU! Over All Of Its Other Characters! And; They Should Bring Back “The Silver Surfer”!
I always thought that the Incredible Hulk was an underrated film, as it’s kind of a shame that it didn’t resonate with the general audience at the time of its initial release as it should have in my opinion. In addition, I’ll always prefer Edward Norton over Mark Ruffalo as Bruce Banner.
Red Hulk/General Ross is one of my favorite Marvel characters, and I love MCU Emil Blonsky. Needless to say I’m a Hulk fan so I enjoyed this video. Congratulations on getting 100K subs bro! (I just realized that I wasn’t subscribed and thought I was!)
I think it's for the best that Norton stopped playing the Hulk. The homogenised assembly-line production style of the MCU seems like his worst nightmare.
you should do a video on Scott Derrickson's version of Multiverse of Madness. Theres a ton of concept art from it out there where you can get somewhat of an idea of what the film would've been like (nightmare, different visuals of an incursion, wundagore mountain looking way different, the death of strange's sister explored etc.)
The Incredible Hulk is my favorite MCU movie, and it really annoys me that not only was Ed Norton recast, but he was forced into a bad cinematic universe and got sidelined. I wish we could've just had a hulk trilogy or something that stood on its own.
I still much prefer Norton to Ruffalo. I just feel like he had better charisma and handled the underlying “rage” better. Not saying that Ruffalo is a “bad actor” but in comparison Ruffalo’s performance as banner just feels more “wooden” than Norton. I also like the way Norton’s hulk looks more.
I’ve always loved Incredible Hulk, I thought it was the second best phase one movie and still has one of the best villains and probably the best fight scenes. Just an awesome movie. I also recently read the novelization of 2003 hulk and holy cow, it’s such an amazing story.
The new Captain America movie is continuing the Edward Norton Hulk, by introducing The Leader played by the same guy Tim Blake Nelson and Liv Tyler as Betty Ross.
if there is one thing this channel has taught me as an aspiring writer, is that scripts that get made lots of times materializes premises/ideas from prior related scripts or i.p. adjacent scripts that didn't...and I feel like if Red Hulk has long been in a script, then parts of that version will be finally realized when we see him for the first time on screen
I’d love to see Eric Bana’s hulk actually be Maestro Like he was sent to the void and was able to get out and went into a universe where he eventually became maestro
They should make animatronics for characters like Hulk and other big characters so that they don't have to spend a ridiculous amount of money on overusing cgi
Here's another film sequel that sadly never came to be: *"The Holy Road",* based on the novel of the same name by Michael Blake, the creator of *"Dances With Wolves".* Taking place years after the events of the first film & its book counterpart, Dances With Wolves (formerly U.S. Union Army Lt. John J. Dunbar) is living peacefully with his native-raised wife: Stands With A Fist, and their trio of young children: a boy named Snake In Hands, and two girls named Always Walking & Stays Quiet. But after his wife & their infant daughter were captured by a group of White rangers after they attacked their village, Dances With Wolves mounts a rescue mission with his friends: Wind In His Hair & Kicking Bird. To helm the film adaptation was to be Mexican film director & professor Salvador Carrasco, though some sources stated that Simon Wincer, the director of the first *"FREE WILLY"* film was to direct. Rumors speculated that Viggo Mortensen (of Peter Jackson's *"Lord of the Rings"* film trilogy) was to star as Dances With Wolves.
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I LOVED Edward Norton’s Incredible Hulk and I hate they didn’t go that direction or keep him, but they ultimately made the right decision if he was going to be so hostile to work with. A shame all around.
Fun Fact: Mark Ruffalo was actually considered for The Role of The Hulk in The 2008 Film before Norton but after Norton was fired, Ruffalo took the role in The Avengers.
I love TIH to this day. I think its incredibly underrated and a more darker film when you really look at it. For all the complaints people had about the MCU being cookie cutter and looking the same, TIH still had a lot of that dark character work in it, even after being cut out.
this is a fantastic example of how the writers did their homework better than the directors and producers. what might have been was some potentially enjoyable films.
Even if Marvel has got back all rights related to Hulk characters, I feel that in current situation, Hulk's origin story cannot be told, though some of the ideas teased in the previous potential films can be used in upcoming films related to Hulk, and they are being used. Hulk's origin cannot be told unless entire MCU is hard rebooted once again.
What we wanted to see was an Incredible Hulk sequel(s) that feautered Hulks gallery of best-known villains, including: "The Leader", "Absorbing Man", "Zzzax", "Madman", "Half-Life", "Wendigo", "Tyrannus" and/or even "Rhino". We really wanted Edward Norton's Hulk/Dr.Banner to continue developing the depth of the Hulk "curse" and how evil forces of both military powers and criminal elites wants to use monsters as weapons. How Dr. Banner struggles with being hunted and a wanted man, how he never is allowed to live in peace and constantly challanged by people and villains to be the Hulk and the cycle keep reperating with-out ending combined with it all gets worse and more darker. Disney have done NOTHING with the Hulk. Truly NOTHING. They refused to do any sequel to 2008 film and left it all hanging. Oh, we want Hulk in the Avengers = BOOM its done with-out any fitting build-up. Mark Ruffalo have no charisma or depth as neither character and after recent Endgame and She-Hulk portray of him ruining thr character completely to a big p#$sy = WORTHLESS.
I'm one of those people who enjoyed Ang Lee's Hulk, not a mainstream movie but an art film of sorts, the MCU is great but it has a consistent tone, Ang Lee's Hulk was something different. Ed Norton is a guy who clearly oversteps his boundaries, movies are a team effort, he shouldn't be an actor he should direct if he wants that much control.
The problem is that many of the times Ed has taken writing or editorial control he's made the movie vastly better (probably more often than he's made his movies worse). His edit absolutely MADE American History X. Had Tony Kaye had full control from start to finish literally nobody would remember that movie. 🤷
Ever since your videos were on my recommendations, I instantly love your content especially using footage from other media to explain the plot of these unmade projects or early drafts.
I think 100% of People can agree that aside from Avengers 1, Marvel *Completely* dropped the Ball on the Hulk. And Edward Norton's version was *Superior* to anything that Marvel has done with the Hulk to date.
The 2008 movie was originally the sequel, they just lightly tweaked the script and it's noticeable, I'm one of the few, whom prefer the 2003 movie above the 2008 movie.
Would the 90s film have been that good? Probably not, but GOD I would have loved to see those practical effects in action. Also, I think I heard that Billy Crudup was also considered for the lead role even back then. I actually enjoy the two Hulk films we got and how they try to adapt certain aspects of the character. I appreciate how Ang Lee's film explores the more psychological aspects of the character and how his childhood trauma led to the creation of the Hulk persona. I also enjoy the 2008 film for going the 'Bruce is drifting across the world looking for a cure" that was popularized by the 70s TV series while also being a solid action blockbuster. Though I will say that I love both films soundtracks and I would go so far as to say The Incredible Hulk has the best soundtrack in the entire MCU. Being a Hulk fan is a frustrating experience I must admit. He gets a couple of moments in the spotlight, and then almost immediately gets forgotten about afterwards despite him being one of Marvel's most popular heroes. What's up with that?
This is one of my favorite lost potentials that could’ve been, not just because he’s one of my fav heroes, but because he had a lot of great material to work with & some independent story telling in between. One of the BIGGEST lost opportunities of Marvel movies history. Such a shame tht it might not happen & it was just an idea tht was canceled. 😢
All these ideas sound wild and very creative. I miss when people had an interest in the Hulk inside of just "dumb monster" or treating him as a joke. The fact we haven't had a solo Hulk film in a decade upsets me. Thanks again for pumping out these videos 👍
What If 《 The Incredible Hulk 2 : World War Hulk 》 Presents by : Marvel Studios Director by : Louis Leterrier Produced by : Kevin Feige Writer by : Edward Norton and Zak Penn Cast : Mark Ruffalo as Bruce Banner / Savage Hulk Edward Norton as Skaar / World Breaker Hulk Tatiana Maslany as Jennifer Walters / She Hulk Harrison Ford as Thaddeus Ross / Red Hulk Liv Tyler as Betty Ross / Red She Hulk Tim Roth as Emil Blonsky / Abomination Tim Blake Nelson as Samuel Sterns / The Leader Vinnie Jones as Joe Fixit / Gray Hulk Eric Bana as Maestro Lou Ferrigno as The Green Scar Jeff Goldblum as Grandmaster Benedict Wong as Master Wong Samuel L Jackson as Nick Fury Cameo : Benedict Cumberbatch as Stephen Strange / Doctor Strange Chris Hemsworth as Thor / God of Thunder Scarlett Johansson as Natasha Romanoff / Black Widow Tom Holland as Peter Parker / Spider Man Hugh Jackman as Logan / Wolverine Patrick Stewart as Charles Xavier / Professor X
Rick Jones, MIA, always... which is weird because I think saving him and becoming the Hulk as a result should be the largest part of Banner's characterization. "No, child abuse and daddy issues." Why? "Relatability?"
THANK YOU! I've never understood why Rick Jones is never included in any live Hulk adaptation. Yes, the issues with Brian Banner have become central to core Hulk storytelling since their introduction by writer Peter David, but how much more core can you get than Rick? Rick was literally there since the first Hulk story and was the catalyst for Bruce being caught in the gamma explosion. It's just as frustrating as MCU Spider-Man doing everything possible to never mention Uncle Ben by name. Even in No Way Home, Tobey Maguire and Andrew Garfield say Uncle Ben's name, but Tom Holland never does and it feels absolutely wrong.
Regarding the making of The Incredible Hulk, Norton and Leterrier actually got along well and they shared the same opinion about how they wanted the movie to be like. Both of them wanted a longer movie that was actually a character study, but Feige wanted a shorter movie that was more action driven
I will always think of the 2003 tie in video game as the unofficial Hulk 2, as the story takes place 8 years after the film. I used to play it on PS2 all the time
Same here although I never played the game
The hulk games were so much fun, especially the incredible hulk one. I always love the open world super hero games (incredible hulk, spiderman 2,3, and ultimate, superman returns, the whole arkham series.). I would love something similar to the ultimate alliance games, but open world where depending on the hero you’re playing as, the repeatable crimes would differ, like if you’re playing street level, you mostly take out thugs mugging people, carjackers, bank robberies ect. (Some with supervillainslike shocker or rhino aiding regular guys), and once every few random crimes a supervillain plot. If you’re playing avengers level, you’re facing terrorists, natural disasters, and supervillain plots. If you’re playing a cosmic level character (silver surfer, sentry, ect,) then it’s supervillain plots/natural disasters being as common as muggings for street level, with random event threats like galactus, kang, skrulls, or thanos being the rare ones.
@@marcusmyers4822The problem with that game while it is a great idea is that, the gameplay mechanics are so completely different for the different characters, that these games are never able to find a good medium ground with it. Like how about a semi open world Avengers game where you have Iron Man mentoring Spider Man in NY. T’Challa and Shuri in Wakanda. Captain America on a mission in London. Thor and Captain Marvel vs Skrulls somewhere in space like maybe the dead celestial head Knowhere, and for the fun part Hulk in the void.
The point is that you have these 5 different maps and stories that you beat the NY portion first than you can choose the order of the other ones to play in as they all will leave off with a cliffhanger involving needing to contact Avengers HQ. At which point you can a final portion of where they are all teaming up which would eventually lead to the void for the Endgame. The scale of the open world for each would have to be scaled back of course.
Gameplay wise flying mechanics between Iron Man, Thor, and Captain Marvel should be able to be similar enough to fit in same engine with tweaks to each character. Like Iron Man would be a little more mechanical and sudden in his accelerate and decelerate action, whereas Captain Marvel would be super fluid, and Thor in between. The boomerang physics for throwing Cap shield should be similar to that of Thor hammer. On the street level Spider-Man, Cap, T’Challa, and Shuri should all have similar silky smooth and fast movement abilities that are also great for stealth. Spider-Man web shooting is unique but would not need to be super in depth, and a similar mechanic can be used for other characters to shoot a grappling gun, like Black Widow would in the $DLC of course. But T’Challa and Shuri should be able to scale a wall very similar to Spidey. Hulk would be just the classic button smashing brute.
And the best part is once you beat the game you unlock the greatest hero of them all, the guy who saved the Avengers and he entire universe, Look Out For The Little Guy, and you unlock Scott Lang’s Ant Man. All jokes aside I don’t know how Ant-Man abilities could fit into a team game like this but for a solo game he would make for a crazy good one being able to shrink and grow in size could be exploited for some really creative things.
Had it on ps2, so fun to play.
My copy I borrowed from the Video Ezy was buggy, couldn't load cutscenes :( the only way I could see the whole game was if I used the maximum strength cheat to one-shot bosses 😭
It’s crazy how early they had interest in Red Hulk for the MCU because of the fact that he had only been introduced in 2008 and that they had already interest in making him a villain for a future movie
It's all too easy to just do a bad guy that's the same design but a different color as the good guy. (See Black Panther, Iron Man 2, etc)
@@billtree52Killmonger is completely different from T’Challa and he only wears BP outfit a little bit at end where obviously he would look like T’Challa because he had the mantle then, same way Shuri looked like him because she now has the mantle. And Whiplash looks absolutely nothing like Iron-Man so I don’t even know what to say to that.
I think they probably made Red Hulk in the comics to be in the MCU. They have been doing this since the Ultimates basically.
@@billtree52*iron man 1
Only took them 16 years 😂
Hulk was/is one of the pillars of Marvel. One of the most popular and beloved characters they have. The way they've disrespected him in the MCU is absolutely wild. One single solo movie, and then Planet Hulk is turned into a Thor movie, and Red Hulk and the Leader and Sabra is in a Captain America movie. The last time we saw him actually turn from Bruce into the Hulk was in The Avengers. That's his thing, and we haven't seen it in over a decade.
Oddly similar to Superman’s treatment in the dceu, minus the entire franchise being imploded
Good point, everyone in the Avengers had a standalone movie post Iron Man except the Hulk. He's just been used as a side character. Even She-Hulk got her own series.
Because dude Universal has them by the balls . I can’t make it solo. They only put him in Ruby . That’s why they put his story lines in other movies
But isn't Hulk a universal property n Marvel can't even use the name Hulk in the projects names etc
As I understand it, Marvel got with Ruffalo at one point and had a discussion, saying, “We can’t give you a solo film because of rights stuff with Universal, but we want to give Hulk an arc across three films,” and after talking to Mark about where they wanted to take the character and where he was interested in taking him, that ended up being the story across Thor: Ragnarok, Infinity War, and Endgame, which each borrowed heavily from Hulk plots in the comics. Nevermind that they really glossed over the resolution of the arc in Endgame, but otherwise I think it was a smart move on their part to retain creative control of the character while also giving him more than just cameos in team up films. And to date, I think his storyline in Thor: Ragnarok is one of the most enjoyable appearances of the Hulk in movies.
It's sad that the Hulk has not reached his pontintal like Spider-Man and X Men movies and pop culture. Hulk deserves his flowers
As a huge hulk fan since I was a kid it's very disappointing.
@justinarzola4584 Hulk deserves to be a top-level character like Spider-Man, but studios don't see value, and people think that Hulk is overrated. It's sad
He was the og trinity along with Spider-Man and Wolverine he needs to be respected
@bullymaguire3385 facts my boy also respect for 2000s/pre MCU Marvel movies sure some were sh*t but they were different.
back in the 70s and 80s Hulk was the #1 marvel character because of the tv show.
People forget that even normies knew about the hulk back then.
I would say the big 3 were Superman, Batman and Hulk.
It's crazy how after all these years, we are finally gonna see the Leader and Red Hulk not in a Hulk movie, but in a Captain America one. Thanks for another "Incredible" episode bro. You never cease to amaze me.
Ya on the one hand it’s great we get to see them finally but in the other they should be in a hulk movie. Oh well. And thank you as always!!!
I might go see it purely to see how their handeled.
They ruined Abomination I have no faith in them with Hulk characters
@bullymaguire3385 Red Hulk looks pretty great tbh, and they went practical with the Leader.
@@cable7152 Red Hulk looks like what i expected putting the actors face in the monster making it look uncanny and weird instead of separating the monster and the human like the Incredible Hulk did and idk how the Leader is practical we haven’t seen anything about his design
I always thought that Hulk had the potential of being a trilogy with great writing. Hopefully, the mcu can do him justice in the future.
Universal needs to be like Sony and let marvel make the movies
If Universal ever gives up the distribution rights because Disney and Marvel still can't make a Hulk movie due to Universal still owning the distribution rights
@@lexramstudios1386didn’t they already given up the rights?
They will
they wont
The one I wanted most was The Incredible Hulk 2 with Norton. While Leterrier said Norton’s script for the first movie was long and had less hulk, Norton was still a big fan of the character. He wanted to do the character justice and even helped with the Hulk’s fight choreography, showing he didn’t have a problem with action. I think Norton would’ve returned for the sequel if Marvel had just left a few more integral scenes in the first film. I appreciate what Norton was trying to capture with the character’s struggles, which I believe fits unlike where the MCU took Hulk. Ruffalo doesn’t seem to care what Marvel does to the character as long as he gets a paycheck.
No knock on Ruffalo, but he could be replaced by anyone and I don't think it would have made much of a difference. I'm a huge fan of Norton as an actor, he's extremely passionate about everything he does (to his own detriment in some cases).
Pretty much. Norton is probably happy he's not involved. Funny thing, the director originally wanted Ruffalo. It was Marvel that insisted on Norton.
WAS PROPERLY ANGRY WHEN THEY REPLACED NORTON. IVE A MASSIVE SOFT SPOT FOR HIS MOVIE... BRILLIANT CAST. GREAT DYNAMICS AND CHEMISTRY... FEW EASTER EGG NODS TO THE BIXBY ERA AND COMICS
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@@vmunit2931It seems that way now, but not for the first Avengers movie Ruffalo really nailed the aura of a recluse Bruce on the loose with his neck in a noose. That’s why he was able to nonchalantly deliver one of the most epic lines in the entire MCU when he turned and said, “That’s my secret, I’m always angry.”
Hulk deserves better in comic book films sad to see all of this cancelled
In a perfect world we would of had Edward Norton continue as the hulk and mark ruffalo as the MCU beast.
wow
Blame Edward Norton for all of this
Ego
Man that’s crazy cause Ruffalo WOULD BE a damn perfect casting for Beast
That would be my preferred timeline.
@@XVNRXNot his fault he cares for the character and wanted the best for Hulk
1:47: Those animatronics look amazing.
Mark Ruffalo, David Duchovny, Dominic Purcell, Joaquin Phoenix And Liev Schreiber Were All Considered For The Role Of The Hulk Before Edward Norton Was Cast
Would've been cool to see Liev Schreiher as The Hulk, or as Sabertooth in the Deadpool & Wolverine for that matter
I guess mark won in the end
@@Alf-gm7tf He only got the role because Norton was hard to work with though, if he is happy enough being second best, I guess he did win in the end..........
@@deepflare1028 yes liev did good job as saberthooth and if he was cast as hulk he will kill the role
@@nathandrake9129 From the beginning, Leterrier wanted Mark Ruffalo to play Bruce Banner, but Universal wanted Norton.
So Edward Norton is just like Tom Cruise known to take over projects. And travels with his own personal script writer and editor / cinematographer.
Ray Stevenson Was Approached For The Role Of Emil Blonsky Before Tim Roth Was Cast
Really?!! I didn't know that. R.I.P.
I would of loved to have seen all three of these versions, especially Ang Lee’s Hulk 2, that movie is really underrated and I love all the character work that was being explored
@bensneb360 Here's what I'd do with a potential Incredible Hulk sequel. Keep in mind, this would be in an MCU where Marvel had the rights of all their characters instead of selling them.
An Incredible Hulk sequel would have Hulk on the run with the Leader as the villain, but the secondary villains would be Weapon X soldiers which are Wolverine, Sabretooth, Omega Red, Deadpool and Lady Deathstrike tasked by Thunderbolt Ross to find Hulk.
Wolverine would leave the team to help Hulk in stopping the Leader's gamma mutant plans in the third act while the other Weapon X members would get brainwashed, mutated, and eventually escape after stopping the Leader (this combines the Hulk vs. Wolverine animated movie and the Gamma World two-parter from Earth's Mightiest Heroes with Wolverine taking Hawkeye's place in that film).
A post-credits scene would show Wolverine being recruited by the X-Men setting up the Giant-Size X-Men roster in that movie's sequel.
I wish the planned hulk movies would have had villains who are not different hulks.
Because sense red hulk came along, Bruce wasn’t special anymore.
Ya I hate when the villain is just a copy of the hero
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Especially since Ross was always such an interesting antagonist to me because he didn't have any powers at all. He's just a regular guy, who happens to be in a position that makes Bruce's life hell. That's interesting.
Having Ross turn himself into a red Hulk is just flat out boring and generic. I didn't like it in the comics, and I probably won't like it on film either. Just feels like a waste of such a good character dynamic to dumb it down to a 'hero fights evil version of himself' trope.
This
Well the Leader isn’t really that
@@Bulletsandblockbusters couldn’t agree more
R.I.P. Hulk-2018
Perfect topic you’re covering here!!! I’ve been wanting to ask this for a few weeks now but with Kang Dynasty scrapped and us knowing plot details about the film you should make a video about what Kang Dynasty could have been since I’d LOVE to see that!
I definitely will :)
He’ll only do that video once we know more details about that version of the movie when the actual movie comes out in May 2026
Bingo
30 seconds into the video and I can tell from the topics he will be covering in this video. This is going to be another epic video! *chef's kiss*
Enjoy!
You've become quite the replacement for Midnight's Edge, which used to make similar retrospective videos on unmade installments to franchises. Now, they hardly make, videos like this anymore. Thank you, along with Supervoid Cinema, for making videos like this.
Wow, thanks! And my pleasure
Supervoid Cinema does these in more depth
@@NitroNEXT I agree, but B&B does provide pretty good abridged versions to get people interested, then want to learn more about the topic.
Ang Lee's Hulk is art and no one can convince me otherwise
Great video! I have always wondered what Bruce’s character could’ve been if Norton had stayed on, but the fact he’s apparently hard to work with speaks dozens about him. Fun fact though, and ironically, Mark Ruffalo, while not Marvel’s, was Louis Letterier’s first choice to play Banner in The Incredible Hulk. It’s kinda funny cause he obviously became the new Hulk actor and then the two ended up working together on Now You See Me.
Norton cared for the character and wanted best for Hulk
@@bullymaguire3385Norton is the better actor compared to Ruffalo. No question about it. But he is quite a picky guy. He pick limited role that he feel strongly about and knew that it’s right for him, which is fine and all hence why he was amazing in birdman and many more. But maybe that wouldn’t fit right in an ensemble cast movie like The Avengers where you share the screen. Or that he has to contractually obligate to play in numerous other Marvel projects.
@@yappaplay I understand but i believe Marvel gave him some control in the Incredible Hulk they could’ve done the same in team up movies but only for his character
I’m actually glad that The Leader will finally appear in Captain America: Brave New World, cause the 17-year old set up will be resolved.
And the fact that anything from that 2008 hulk movie is getting attention
They completely abandon the 2008 hulk movie when it’s literally canon lol
@@XVNRX Alternate events of the movie appear in an episode of "What If" as well.
Which episode?
@@Alf-gm7tf Episode 3 of S1
@Alf-gm7tf In episode 3 Banner is murdered during the events of the 2008 movie.
Ang Lee's Hulk is the best Hulk cinematographic adaptation we got. Bruce Banner and the Hulk psychodynamics with themselves and with others throughout their upbringing are very deeply explored. It is also the most comic accurate Hulk since he grows every time he gets angry. I would have loved to see a direct sequel to it, even thought I always thought The Incredible Hulk (2008) was a sequel. I believe that if superhero movies delved deeper into the characters relationship dynamics and human psych, more interest would grow and fatigue would lower.
ngl the plot for the 90s one sounded good but the production was messy
The plot sounded terrible. Bug people… really ?
@@eudacye709 ok the bug people was bad but i mean the origin story of how he got the powers
Hulk (2003) is extremely underrated 😭
And it's the most accurate movie
It was too ahead of it's time.
Hulk smash underated stuff!! Lol
Everything except the ending is good, but Ang Lee can never seem to help himself from getting lost up his own a$$ with heady pseudopsychology nonsense, regardless of the movie he's making. 🤷
Amazing movie
I like both of the existing Hulk movies, but there’s definitely a superior solo Hulk film out there waiting to be made.
I wished we got Incredible Hulk 2 in 2013 Edward Norton may have not returned but Mark rufflo could have even making a trilogy wrapping the 4 main mcu charchters
Mark Ruffalo Is HULK! Thee Best Hulk. They need to stop B.S.ing and make another Hulk Movie. Hulk Is MCU! Over All Of Its Other Characters! And; They Should Bring Back “The Silver Surfer”!
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Congratulations on reaching 100,000 subscribers.
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@@Bulletsandblockbusters you’re welcome.
I think about the mistake Marvel made dropping Norton a lot
Not enough room for his ego
Norton understood the character
@@jasontodd1896 doesn’t matter. Movies are a collaborative effort. Be part of the team or get out.
I think Edward Norton is a better hulk then mark rufflo
@@manavkhanna6470 That is fair. But trying to separate the artist from the craft he was great. That pretrial is for sure great acting
I think we need a world war hulk movie. I feel that would cool in the MCU
I always thought that the Incredible Hulk was an underrated film, as it’s kind of a shame that it didn’t resonate with the general audience at the time of its initial release as it should have in my opinion.
In addition, I’ll always prefer Edward Norton over Mark Ruffalo as Bruce Banner.
Incredible Hulk not being a "smash" hit, good one xD
Glad someone caught that
we need another hulk film based off world war hulk
what would you think about that?
I don’t think they can bc they used that storyline for Thor Ragnarok already
I like Edward’s take on the Hulk and that movie is one of my favorites. But I wish they had kept some of the scenes they cut out.
I love these videos🙏 Literally my favorite channel
Thanks!!! Thrilled you dig em
Red Hulk/General Ross is one of my favorite Marvel characters, and I love MCU Emil Blonsky. Needless to say I’m a Hulk fan so I enjoyed this video. Congratulations on getting 100K subs bro! (I just realized that I wasn’t subscribed and thought I was!)
Thank you!!!
I think it's for the best that Norton stopped playing the Hulk. The homogenised assembly-line production style of the MCU seems like his worst nightmare.
you should do a video on Scott Derrickson's version of Multiverse of Madness. Theres a ton of concept art from it out there where you can get somewhat of an idea of what the film would've been like (nightmare, different visuals of an incursion, wundagore mountain looking way different, the death of strange's sister explored etc.)
Despised Ang Lee's Hulk as a kid, now I absolutely adore it lol
Now that the multiverse is so prominent, they should have Hulk face off against the Amazing Bulk.
The Incredible Hulk is my favorite MCU movie, and it really annoys me that not only was Ed Norton recast, but he was forced into a bad cinematic universe and got sidelined. I wish we could've just had a hulk trilogy or something that stood on its own.
Norton's Hulk and Banner were so much better than Ruffalo's that it makes the scenes Ruffalo or his Hulk are in unwatchable.
Agreed. Dude is a terrible Banner.
You should do a similar video on The Punisher. The 1989 version was supposed to get a sequel. So did the 2004 movie.
Hulk verse! Awesome Work as Always
Thanks!
I still much prefer Norton to Ruffalo. I just feel like he had better charisma and handled the underlying “rage” better. Not saying that Ruffalo is a “bad actor” but in comparison Ruffalo’s performance as banner just feels more “wooden” than Norton. I also like the way Norton’s hulk looks more.
I’ve always loved Incredible Hulk, I thought it was the second best phase one movie and still has one of the best villains and probably the best fight scenes. Just an awesome movie. I also recently read the novelization of 2003 hulk and holy cow, it’s such an amazing story.
What Could Have Been: X-Men Origins Wolverine
congrats on 100k subs very well deserved
Thank you very much!
This is what comic book movies need to do take risks by including new introduced comic characters makes these films feel fresh
And adapt other comics that aren't focused on superheroes.
I was watching some old clips of the original hulk and was wondering what the original plans were for the franchise. Great timing
The new Captain America movie is continuing the Edward Norton Hulk, by introducing The Leader played by the same guy Tim Blake Nelson and Liv Tyler as Betty Ross.
if there is one thing this channel has taught me as an aspiring writer, is that scripts that get made lots of times materializes premises/ideas from prior related scripts or i.p. adjacent scripts that didn't...and I feel like if Red Hulk has long been in a script, then parts of that version will be finally realized when we see him for the first time on screen
I’d love to see Eric Bana’s hulk actually be Maestro
Like he was sent to the void and was able to get out and went into a universe where he eventually became maestro
They should make animatronics for characters like Hulk and other big characters so that they don't have to spend a ridiculous amount of money on overusing cgi
Love the Incredible Hulk it is so underrated to bad that Edward Norton and Marvel had creative differences
I like how the head of the OSI from Venture Bros is a parody of Red Hulk
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Here's another film sequel that sadly never came to be:
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the creator of *"Dances With Wolves".*
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Dances With Wolves (formerly
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of young children: a boy named Snake
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was to be Mexican film director &
professor Salvador Carrasco,
though some sources stated that
Simon Wincer, the director of the
first *"FREE WILLY"* film was to direct.
Rumors speculated that
Viggo Mortensen (of Peter Jackson's
*"Lord of the Rings"* film trilogy)
was to star as Dances With Wolves.
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I LOVED Edward Norton’s Incredible Hulk and I hate they didn’t go that direction or keep him, but they ultimately made the right decision if he was going to be so hostile to work with. A shame all around.
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Lee’s hulk is under rated
I really liked it when I saw it in the theatre
Fun Fact: Mark Ruffalo was actually considered for The Role of The Hulk in The 2008 Film before Norton but after Norton was fired, Ruffalo took the role in The Avengers.
Liev schriber gerard butler wer cast for role too
That story never made any sense. Ruffalo wasn't ready to lead a summer blockbuster.
It was Marvel that insisted on Norton cause he was more kknown.But the director wanted Ruffalo.
Maybe Wes Anderson will make a hulk movie for Ed Norton to the character
That would be interesting.
I love TIH to this day. I think its incredibly underrated and a more darker film when you really look at it. For all the complaints people had about the MCU being cookie cutter and looking the same, TIH still had a lot of that dark character work in it, even after being cut out.
Marvel has done hulk dirty
Hell yes! Your videos are the best🔥
this is a fantastic example of how the writers did their homework better than the directors and producers. what might have been was some potentially enjoyable films.
Let’s go. I’ve been waiting for this video 😁.
Even if Marvel has got back all rights related to Hulk characters, I feel that in current situation, Hulk's origin story cannot be told, though some of the ideas teased in the previous potential films can be used in upcoming films related to Hulk, and they are being used. Hulk's origin cannot be told unless entire MCU is hard rebooted once again.
Make about the original plans for adatped the Meg before Jason stetham
What we wanted to see was an Incredible Hulk sequel(s) that feautered Hulks gallery of best-known villains, including:
"The Leader", "Absorbing Man", "Zzzax", "Madman", "Half-Life", "Wendigo", "Tyrannus" and/or even "Rhino".
We really wanted Edward Norton's Hulk/Dr.Banner to continue developing the depth of the Hulk "curse" and how evil forces of both military powers and criminal elites wants to use monsters as weapons. How Dr. Banner struggles with being hunted and a wanted man, how he never is allowed to live in peace and constantly challanged by people and villains to be the Hulk and the cycle keep reperating with-out ending combined with it all gets worse and more darker.
Disney have done NOTHING with the Hulk. Truly NOTHING. They refused to do any sequel to 2008 film and left it all hanging. Oh, we want Hulk in the Avengers = BOOM its done with-out any fitting build-up. Mark Ruffalo have no charisma or depth as neither character and after recent Endgame and She-Hulk portray of him ruining thr character completely to a big p#$sy = WORTHLESS.
I'm one of those people who enjoyed Ang Lee's Hulk, not a mainstream movie but an art film of sorts, the MCU is great but it has a consistent tone, Ang Lee's Hulk was something different. Ed Norton is a guy who clearly oversteps his boundaries, movies are a team effort, he shouldn't be an actor he should direct if he wants that much control.
The problem is that many of the times Ed has taken writing or editorial control he's made the movie vastly better (probably more often than he's made his movies worse). His edit absolutely MADE American History X. Had Tony Kaye had full control from start to finish literally nobody would remember that movie. 🤷
Nice…I voted in the poll 😂
Ever since your videos were on my recommendations, I instantly love your content especially using footage from other media to explain the plot of these unmade projects or early drafts.
Thank you!
god I don't think I have ever been this early
Love this channel
I think 100% of People can agree that aside from Avengers 1, Marvel *Completely* dropped the Ball on the Hulk. And Edward Norton's version was *Superior* to anything that Marvel has done with the Hulk to date.
The MCU should have given hulk his own show and made she hulk part of his story instead of giving her a whole show.
Thank you for doing my request!
So many fascinating plot lines
I liked the first one a lot, it wasn’t amazing but I thought it like was okay like good
The 2008 movie was originally the sequel, they just lightly tweaked the script and it's noticeable, I'm one of the few, whom prefer the 2003 movie above the 2008 movie.
Hulk used to be terrifying but now he’s a disney jolly giant for the kids to play with 😔
Man you go really deep into information about these movies so your videos end up being very informative and worthwhile. Respect!
I appreciate that! Thnx!
Would the 90s film have been that good? Probably not, but GOD I would have loved to see those practical effects in action. Also, I think I heard that Billy Crudup was also considered for the lead role even back then.
I actually enjoy the two Hulk films we got and how they try to adapt certain aspects of the character. I appreciate how Ang Lee's film explores the more psychological aspects of the character and how his childhood trauma led to the creation of the Hulk persona. I also enjoy the 2008 film for going the 'Bruce is drifting across the world looking for a cure" that was popularized by the 70s TV series while also being a solid action blockbuster.
Though I will say that I love both films soundtracks and I would go so far as to say The Incredible Hulk has the best soundtrack in the entire MCU.
Being a Hulk fan is a frustrating experience I must admit. He gets a couple of moments in the spotlight, and then almost immediately gets forgotten about afterwards despite him being one of Marvel's most popular heroes. What's up with that?
This is one of my favorite lost potentials that could’ve been, not just because he’s one of my fav heroes, but because he had a lot of great material to work with & some independent story telling in between. One of the BIGGEST lost opportunities of Marvel movies history. Such a shame tht it might not happen & it was just an idea tht was canceled. 😢
All these ideas sound wild and very creative. I miss when people had an interest in the Hulk inside of just "dumb monster" or treating him as a joke. The fact we haven't had a solo Hulk film in a decade upsets me. Thanks again for pumping out these videos 👍
The 2008 Hulk is one of my favorite Marvel movies. I never understood why it was so disliked.
Hopefully Savage Hulk will come back and get the Movies he deserves.
What If 《 The Incredible Hulk 2 : World War Hulk 》
Presents by : Marvel Studios
Director by : Louis Leterrier
Produced by : Kevin Feige
Writer by : Edward Norton and Zak Penn
Cast :
Mark Ruffalo as Bruce Banner / Savage Hulk
Edward Norton as Skaar / World Breaker Hulk
Tatiana Maslany as Jennifer Walters / She Hulk
Harrison Ford as Thaddeus Ross / Red Hulk
Liv Tyler as Betty Ross / Red She Hulk
Tim Roth as Emil Blonsky / Abomination
Tim Blake Nelson as Samuel Sterns / The Leader
Vinnie Jones as Joe Fixit / Gray Hulk
Eric Bana as Maestro
Lou Ferrigno as The Green Scar
Jeff Goldblum as Grandmaster
Benedict Wong as Master Wong
Samuel L Jackson as Nick Fury
Cameo :
Benedict Cumberbatch as Stephen Strange / Doctor Strange
Chris Hemsworth as Thor / God of Thunder
Scarlett Johansson as Natasha Romanoff / Black Widow
Tom Holland as Peter Parker / Spider Man
Hugh Jackman as Logan / Wolverine
Patrick Stewart as Charles Xavier / Professor X
You should do what could of been bill murrays Batman
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Rick Jones, MIA, always... which is weird because I think saving him and becoming the Hulk as a result should be the largest part of Banner's characterization.
"No, child abuse and daddy issues." Why? "Relatability?"
THANK YOU! I've never understood why Rick Jones is never included in any live Hulk adaptation.
Yes, the issues with Brian Banner have become central to core Hulk storytelling since their introduction by writer Peter David, but how much more core can you get than Rick?
Rick was literally there since the first Hulk story and was the catalyst for Bruce being caught in the gamma explosion.
It's just as frustrating as MCU Spider-Man doing everything possible to never mention Uncle Ben by name.
Even in No Way Home, Tobey Maguire and Andrew Garfield say Uncle Ben's name, but Tom Holland never does and it feels absolutely wrong.
“Wasn’t a smash hit” - I see what you did there! I approve!
Still sad we never got the amazing bulk 2 😔
Hulk 2003 my fav “super hero” movie
Universal needs to give up the distribution rights of Hulk so Disney and Marvel can make another Hulk movie
Regarding the making of The Incredible Hulk, Norton and Leterrier actually got along well and they shared the same opinion about how they wanted the movie to be like. Both of them wanted a longer movie that was actually a character study, but Feige wanted a shorter movie that was more action driven