Marvel doesn't respect the Hulk

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  • @RoadieDoh
    @RoadieDoh Місяць тому +307

    Bruce Banner: A man who, as a kid, was abused by his father, used as a lab rat, seen his father kill his mother, got blasted with heavy amounts of radiation, turns into a monster when he feels a slight bit of anger, the entire military wants him dead, and he tries to kill himself but he cant even do that. Thats why the mcu hates him. A guy who has tons of trauma

    • @FischerFilmStudio
      @FischerFilmStudio Місяць тому +18

      I guess you just forgot all the trauma that Tony Stark has

    • @juliocesarsajhe
      @juliocesarsajhe Місяць тому +24

      Marvel/Disney: Haha green man goes brrr

    • @romeosilversword3200
      @romeosilversword3200 Місяць тому

      ​@@FischerFilmStudio ya but hulk was dope during the first MCU movies but they left him to dry and turned him into soyboi hulk

    • @GothamsMostTrusted
      @GothamsMostTrusted Місяць тому +17

      ​@@FischerFilmStudioWe're not talking about Tony Stark, tho

    • @darkstar55087
      @darkstar55087 Місяць тому +4

      H U L K

  • @OBSDCC7
    @OBSDCC7 Місяць тому +368

    It’s actually wild that Cap, Thor and Tony get to square up against Thanos and Hulk just… isn’t fucking there.

  • @KyrieKirigiri
    @KyrieKirigiri Місяць тому +238

    I still can't believe they adapted Planet Hulk by making it a comedy movie where Thor is the main character. Genuinely what the fuck goes through someone mind who reads Planet Hulk and thinks it would make a good comedy movie?

    • @WillieHoule
      @WillieHoule Місяць тому +45

      Lol I know right ? They turned a hulk story into a Thor comedy, and now they taking one of his villain to fight Captain Falco

    • @zodd_the_mogger
      @zodd_the_mogger 29 днів тому +25

      At least we have the direct-to-video Planet Hulk animation from 2010.

    • @DavidMartinez-ce3lp
      @DavidMartinez-ce3lp 29 днів тому +12

      They could've added way more elements from Planet Hulk. Like having the gladiators rebellion be the reason the heroes are able to escape the planet.

    • @user-vi4xy1jw7e
      @user-vi4xy1jw7e 29 днів тому +8

      Universal owns the movie rights, so we'll never see a Hulk standalone movie.

    • @mydude8731
      @mydude8731 23 дні тому +3

      The comic and animated movie makes up for it

  • @HoustonIsImmortal
    @HoustonIsImmortal Місяць тому +368

    I've slowly begun to detest Marvel's ritual abuse of The Hulk-- One of it's foundational characters. The only disrespect they've handed out that rivals it is what has happened to the Fantastic Four during my lifetime. 🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️

    • @antonyperkins6705
      @antonyperkins6705 Місяць тому +5

      Marvel doesn't have the rights.To do a hulk movie

    • @blacklivesorblackvotes2985
      @blacklivesorblackvotes2985 Місяць тому

      ⁠​⁠@@antonyperkins6705 that in no way is an excuse to actively shit on him. “Oh we can’t make a hulk movie whenever we want so let’s just ruin him”
      Saddest part is, I can see the possible petty reason behind that. Lower his value in an attempt to get Universal to hand him off. That still doesn’t justify it though.

    • @rodimusmagnus5586
      @rodimusmagnus5586 Місяць тому +37

      ​@antonyperkins6705 that doesn't excuse making a bastardization of his character

    • @Acnologia-r3g
      @Acnologia-r3g Місяць тому

      Got them back in 2023​@@antonyperkins6705

    • @chilliicecream5456
      @chilliicecream5456 28 днів тому +4

      @@antonyperkins6705they do now, there no excuse

  • @richborn6700
    @richborn6700 Місяць тому +116

    Imma say it. Recasting goofy ass Mark Ruffalo was a serious mistake. I understand Ed Norton was "difficult" but he also had the intensity of a dude with a literal rage monster inside him. Even Eric Bana. NOT the friend from 13 going on 30.

    • @JonathanGaeta
      @JonathanGaeta 27 днів тому +31

      Edward Norton’s hulk is probably the best portrayal of the Hulk in live action, even though it’s considered the black sheep of the MCU.

    • @ab-gail
      @ab-gail 27 днів тому

      💯

    • @JJBInc-yd2ym
      @JJBInc-yd2ym 25 днів тому +15

      @@JonathanGaetaNorten based his portrayal on what Bill Bixby did in the tv show. The 2008 hulk movie was an attempt to bring the hulk back to what it was then. A “the fugitive” type man on the run story, and Ed Norton said he studied Bill bixby’s banner and tried to replicate it. Bixby is my GOAT

    • @JonathanGaeta
      @JonathanGaeta 18 днів тому +4

      @@JJBInc-yd2ym I guess Fiege or whoever at Marvel didn’t see Norton’s vision of Hulk being a fugitive on the run and Fiege pushed for more action than drama, but the dramatic elements are needed for Hulk as when you look deep, Hulk and Bruce Banner are tragic characters because of trauma mixed with a freak accident that basically created Hulk.

    • @Acnologia-r3g
      @Acnologia-r3g 5 годин тому

      Ruffalo was fine
      In both avengers and age of ultron he was great
      He just started dropping after ragnarok

  • @studentathlete7751
    @studentathlete7751 Місяць тому +127

    They did Hulk so wrong starting with infinity war and the fact that Hulk never got a second solo movie like Iron Man Thor and Captain America did. Now we’ve got two classic Hulk villains in the Leader and the Red Hulk and they’re not even gonna fight the Hulk.

    • @torkul7
      @torkul7 Місяць тому +10

      Universal gets all the revenue for a solo hulk movie but not if hes a supporting character hence why they haven’t made a second one

    • @rickygillies28
      @rickygillies28 Місяць тому

      Leader board? 😂

    • @tbone2123
      @tbone2123 Місяць тому +12

      Starting with infinity war?? More like starting with age of ultron!
      Knocked out by hulk buster
      Ragnarok completely took his story and gave it to thor not to mention they made him a child who pouts and joke in that movie and gave him yet another L to thor
      Infinity war made him a punk and coward and got no rematch with thanos

    • @studentathlete7751
      @studentathlete7751 Місяць тому

      @@rickygillies28 just some stupid autocorrect

    • @DemonicRemption
      @DemonicRemption Місяць тому +4

      @@torkul7
      I was about to bring that up. Funny how Iger and Fiegie allowed the Spider-Man films, but are too stingy to let Universal do any Hulk films because they won't earn a dime from them.

  • @thelivingtrebuchet6180
    @thelivingtrebuchet6180 Місяць тому +121

    the top three pre mcu heroes were spiderman, wolverine, and hulk.

    • @panamajack5972
      @panamajack5972 Місяць тому +7

      blade > punisher > hulk

    • @thelivingtrebuchet6180
      @thelivingtrebuchet6180 Місяць тому

      @ ?

    • @tbone2123
      @tbone2123 Місяць тому +11

      Yup hulk was a big 3 before the mcu ruined him now he’s looked at like weak punk coward

    • @BlankEmporium
      @BlankEmporium Місяць тому +12

      ​@@panamajack5972 Punisher was never that famous with the mainstream my friend. Blade, Spiderman, Hulk, Batman, Superman, and the Joker are about the only superpowered characters your average person knew by name prior to the MCU/DCEU.

    • @TraditionalArtist1
      @TraditionalArtist1 29 днів тому +1

      ​@@BlankEmporium I always liked the punisher tho

  • @peza.
    @peza. 29 днів тому +98

    The worst part is that the Russo brothers explicitly said that they hate Hulk and that they made him the weakest "strong member" of the group on purpose, unless they stop working for Marvel they are going to ruin Hulk as much as they can until the end

    • @DavidMartinez-ce3lp
      @DavidMartinez-ce3lp 29 днів тому +43

      Yup, they admitted they never knew what to do with him and just wrote Hulk out of the story. What an absolute waste. Couldn't even do the bare minimum of using him in the action scenes.

    • @JonathanCute-e4f
      @JonathanCute-e4f 29 днів тому +14

      Sooo mf disappointing and Lazy broooo

    • @ab-gail
      @ab-gail 27 днів тому +16

      That’s awful.

    • @gatorwarrior7557
      @gatorwarrior7557 13 днів тому

      And mcu shills will still meat ride the russo frauds

  • @jeremysans1463
    @jeremysans1463 Місяць тому +236

    I ain't ever seeing another MCU movie again until they give ma GOAT Hulk the RESPECT he truly deserves.

    • @torkul7
      @torkul7 Місяць тому +15

      You do realize that any revenue from a hulk solo movie goes to universal and not marvel and disney and are completely fine with him being a supporting character so they dont have to share revenue..

    • @antonyperkins6705
      @antonyperkins6705 Місяць тому

      ​@torkul7 legal they can't do a hulk movie. This dude is doesn't know what he's talking about

    • @EVGriffinJr
      @EVGriffinJr Місяць тому +18

      Marvel recently gained the rights back to the Hulk so actually they do own the character.
      That said, I don’t like the way they’ve treated the Hulk either personally. Funny how all the ones they did with universal are a much closer interpretation.

    • @donnae1899
      @donnae1899 Місяць тому

      @@EVGriffinJr But Why Didn’t They Revoke Them Earlier
      When Disney Bought Marvel?

    • @EVGriffinJr
      @EVGriffinJr Місяць тому

      @@donnae1899 contract probably wasn’t up at that point.

  • @neneshubby
    @neneshubby Місяць тому +49

    Hulk committed the unpardonable sin in Hollywood. Not making them enough money.

  • @julianpagano1659
    @julianpagano1659 Місяць тому +59

    The Hulk's been my favourite character ever since I was a kid, so you can believe me when I tell you that the past 6 years have been TORTURE....

    • @tbone2123
      @tbone2123 Місяць тому +2

      Same … but I been trying to fight for hulk’s justice ever since

    • @Kashout.kj_1
      @Kashout.kj_1 7 днів тому +1

      It hurts bro fr

  • @GreenBro11
    @GreenBro11 28 днів тому +30

    We’ve lost so much because of corporate dickery over movie rights. Never dipping into the psychological storytelling potential of the Hulk is a crime and now Red Hulk is being used as a Captain America villain. We’ll never get anything cool like World War Hulk or Immortal Hulk in the MCU.

    • @JonathanGaeta
      @JonathanGaeta 27 днів тому +1

      It’s a damn shame. All these possibilities to take Hulk and it’s all stomped into the ground because of corporate studio BS

  • @tetraxis3011
    @tetraxis3011 Місяць тому +28

    The 1st 10 minutes of infinity war should have been a 1v1 fight between Thanos and Hulk

  • @victorhernandez5013
    @victorhernandez5013 28 днів тому +15

    Fun fact: Edward Norton wanted the Hulk to have a trilogy but because he wanted the sequels to go deep into Bruce's childhood but Marvel was too scared that it might be like ang lee Hulk's movie and said no (btw the unmade sequel would have Grey Hulk and Red Hulk)

    • @Vzee8811
      @Vzee8811 22 дні тому +5

      That means Edward Norton cared more about the charecter then anyone did that's sad 😢😢

    • @gatorwarrior7557
      @gatorwarrior7557 13 днів тому +3

      ​@Vzee8811 that's exactly why they fired him

  • @torkul7
    @torkul7 Місяць тому +109

    You completely left out the part that The Incredible Hulk is owned by marvel but Universal Pictures only has the rights to distribution of a hulk movie where he is the lead character, meaning any future hulk solo movie needs universal’s permission to distribute

    • @lonewolf_a_real1
      @lonewolf_a_real1  Місяць тому +25

      @@torkul7 they didn't let that stop them from making the first one, or Spiderman ffh which Sony was very involved in.

    • @antonyperkins6705
      @antonyperkins6705 Місяць тому

      ​@@lonewolf_a_real1they cut a deal with Sony

    • @TheCuboneSwordsman
      @TheCuboneSwordsman Місяць тому +8

      They didn’t think universal was gonna keep a tight grip on the rights and doesn’t want to pay they price since they’re asking for too much.
      Also they brought back spideys movie rights that’s why they could even make Spider-Man homecoming, but also why Sony can’t make a movie that features spider man

    • @Anthonydavis65
      @Anthonydavis65 Місяць тому +13

      But why does he suck? Ok universal has the rights cool but why make him lame? Universal didn't tell em to make him a loser

    • @JinxeBlaq
      @JinxeBlaq Місяць тому +6

      @@lonewolf_a_real1Spider-Man is a MAJOR player. I can understand why they do it for him and not the Hulk, they had to shill out a shit ton of money to do it too. Also that first movie was under universal.

  • @OT4IMnumberone
    @OT4IMnumberone Місяць тому +23

    Funny thing.. They just adapted Hulk's Planet story into the Ragnarok movie where is Thor main protagonist. After this they adapted Hulk's nemesis to be main villian of Captain America new world movie, where even no HULK IN. Then in credits of this movie they announcing Hulk world war.. I'M ALREADY SCARED OF WHAT TO WAIT

  • @purplespectre
    @purplespectre Місяць тому +30

    I feel the only way they could MAYBE save this is if they reveal Bruce somehow supressed/"killed" the Hulk and is just pretending they merged. Then we can have the Hulk resurface in his mind and fight back against Bruce to regain control of his body, and with that they can show the Hulk at his full power without Bruce holding him back. After some fighting, the Hulk and Bruce can finally come to an understanding and work together.

  • @mercmenace9545
    @mercmenace9545 29 днів тому +14

    2008 Incredible Hulk was in association with Marvel but was produced by Universal Studios because they had the rights to the character, they are the only ones who can do a solo Hulk movie

  • @Loganbub
    @Loganbub 28 днів тому +16

    Top to bottom I never liked Ruffalos Hulk since day one. From the design, to how he fights, to his mannerisms etc.. all far worse than 2008. Then you have Ruffalo who to me looks nothing like Banner, is just kind of there and brings nothing to the character. Marks face on the Hulk also looks terrible.
    Norton cared about the character, he approached it with respect and depth while giving us a savage and ferocious Hulk.

  • @santalim3181
    @santalim3181 29 днів тому +9

    I'll always remember that time when She Hulk said that being catcalled is somehow worst than being abused by biological father, watched him killed your mom, literally got nuked by a gamma bomb, and being hunted down by military for the rest of his life.

  • @kaylemjoseph8727
    @kaylemjoseph8727 Місяць тому +36

    will we ever see the real hulk again.

  • @4Lwatxbmyback
    @4Lwatxbmyback Місяць тому +24

    Thanos gave hulk a life changing fade

  • @joseavenia3634
    @joseavenia3634 Місяць тому +23

    hulk healing factor surpasses wolverines and with gaunlet hulk should become stronger specially emitting gamma radiation.

  • @Blakersboy101
    @Blakersboy101 Місяць тому +18

    I feel so terrible for the hulk who doesn't get any respect from Marvel. The Hulk should get more credit because he's apart of Marvel, both hulk and Bruce banner are one of my favourite characters in Marvel alongside Deadpool and Bucky Barnes but that's besides the point. I just think the Hulk should get the respect he deserves.

  • @atari9477
    @atari9477 Місяць тому +187

    Hulk is masculine, Thor is masculine, both are the strongest of the team,theyre both clowns now… I wonder why?

    • @windandfireproductions5358
      @windandfireproductions5358 Місяць тому

      Disney is trash

    • @jthorpr9730
      @jthorpr9730 Місяць тому +11

      😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
      You serious?

    • @stevenmcburney8167
      @stevenmcburney8167 29 днів тому +27

      Cuz beefy = stupid according to hollywood apparently

    • @brittanyc.4540
      @brittanyc.4540 29 днів тому +29

      The tragedy is this, I believe, Hulk and Thor’s transformation into more comedic, less imposing figures in the MCU reflects a shift in storytelling to prioritize humor and relatability over traditional stoic heroism. That’s what modern writers and movie executives like Kevin Feige. This approach broadens their appeal but has been criticized for undermining their iconic strength and gravitas, as seen in adaptations like Thor: Ragnarok and She-Hulk, where humor sometimes overshadows their once-mythic personas. This is sad but I love how both Thor and Hulk are written beautifully in “Avengers: Earth’s Mightiest Heroes” cartoon series. I wish the show continued with another season. I love that show more than the MCU.

    • @stevenmcburney8167
      @stevenmcburney8167 29 днів тому +6

      @@brittanyc.4540 avengers EMH is heat! Also yeah I agree, Hollywood movies have become too self aware to the point they look down upon older movies and can’t take themselves seriously anymore. It’s like that one obnoxious person in the group who is always cracking jokes and being self aware and can’t handle just being normal amongst everyone else. There always has to be a level of irony to everything

  • @silvertongue.242_99
    @silvertongue.242_99 Місяць тому +18

    Also miss opportunity of captain america showing his will power and persistence keeping the hulk busy. Like in the comics and until iron man suits up in hulk buster. He is about to lose when someone comes in finally to soothe him

  • @stevecavalle
    @stevecavalle Місяць тому +16

    Well... in the comics on the other hand... The Hulk is a total badass

  • @teamrocketjoe1621
    @teamrocketjoe1621 27 днів тому +10

    Say what you will about Hulk 2003. It was at least somewhat deep. The MCU Hulk went as far down as Avengers 1 and 2. Yet they didn't even finish his romance arc with Black Widow!

  • @samuelmackenzie5267
    @samuelmackenzie5267 Місяць тому +41

    “Bench warmer avengers”. I like that. Honestly sums up phase 4 for me (except no way home).

    • @anonymoustroll2432
      @anonymoustroll2432 Місяць тому +6

      No way home sucks and its all Zendaya's fault.

    • @stephaniemeza1430
      @stephaniemeza1430 Місяць тому

      ?? What does she has to do with wheater the movie is good or bad?, she doesnt have that many scenes​@@anonymoustroll2432

  • @Buckets32
    @Buckets32 Місяць тому +24

    MCU going down hill fast. Thor has a weird child now, “hulk” has a weird child now just what is going on in the writers room

    • @JonathanGaeta
      @JonathanGaeta 27 днів тому +1

      Marvel is hiring fanfiction writers that make actual fanfiction writers look like geniuses

  • @joshwolu51
    @joshwolu51 7 днів тому +1

    13:55 yk hulks healing factor is the best in Marvel, even better than wolverine and Deadpool in the comics it is one of the things that makes him so hard to kill

  • @kidkatanatv
    @kidkatanatv 28 днів тому +6

    Is my man using the LEGO Marvel Superhero free roam music? Niiiice

  • @Galaxymuffin6i98
    @Galaxymuffin6i98 10 днів тому +3

    Update news: i heard that Edward Norton is gonna come back and reprise his role as hulk in avengers secret wars movie thats coming out in may 2027

    • @BRIANBURNS-y7g
      @BRIANBURNS-y7g 9 днів тому

      I'll believe it when I see it

    • @Galaxymuffin6i98
      @Galaxymuffin6i98 9 днів тому

      @BRIANBURNS-y7g oh not it's actually real because marvel updates on Twitter said it too and UA-camrs did to and reddit

  • @thehalfricanguy
    @thehalfricanguy 27 днів тому +5

    0:42 - If Marvel could do a solo Hulk movie, they would. Unfortunately, they don't own the full rights to the character.

    • @lonewolf_a_real1
      @lonewolf_a_real1  27 днів тому

      @@thehalfricanguy they already did a solo hulk movie. They could've done incredible hulk 2, and they could've used that hulk in the mcu going forward

    • @thehalfricanguy
      @thehalfricanguy 27 днів тому +1

      @lonewolf_a_real1 Correct. However, there is a huge caveat to that. Universal owned the full film distribution rights to any Hulk focused films. Meaning Disney/Marvel can’t do that unless Universal distributed the film(s).

    • @申月営無営月無営有申
      @申月営無営月無営有申 26 днів тому

      Nah they can use hulk like spidernan 😂😂😂😂

  • @cheekyscrub9102
    @cheekyscrub9102 Місяць тому +5

    Yk the MCU did irreversible damage to the hulk when he’s not talked in a versus convo and instead is clowned on

  • @FabledHeroes3351
    @FabledHeroes3351 Місяць тому +14

    I mean yeah they refuse to make him cool and he’s nothing but a mascot in the films 🙄

    • @ineedpowers5151
      @ineedpowers5151 Місяць тому +6

      Not a Mascot! Even Mascots have respect for example Mickey of Disney & Pikachu of Pokemon.

  • @150Hello
    @150Hello Місяць тому +22

    The funny thing about the Hulkbuster koing Hulk is that in the comics, the Hulkbuster Ironman armor has an ABYSMAL track record against the Hulk. Every fight it has against Hulk, it's either unable to put him down or gets reduced to scrap metal. Heck, even a laid-back Professor Hulk can casually toy around with an Iron Man in the Hulkbuster suit who's trying to kill him. Even when Stark uses multiple Hulkbuster suits and weaponizes an entire continent, Hulk still babyshakes the suits 😅

    • @GloriousSquizoKing.
      @GloriousSquizoKing. 24 дні тому +3

      That's because the comics actually treat the suit how it's supposed to, like a glorified chew toy for the Hulk to beat on and calm down.

  • @stannisthemannis8694
    @stannisthemannis8694 21 день тому +3

    People hated Edward Norton for wanting to tell a real story with the Hulk instead of the formulaic crap that plagues us today. Ive always stood by his movie since it understands Hulk.

  • @thequeenvsslime1
    @thequeenvsslime1 12 днів тому +2

    ngl im kinda sad the CANT make a hulk movie due to copyright issues

  • @MrOrcshaman
    @MrOrcshaman Місяць тому +36

    Maybe if they got and kept an actually likeable actor to play the hulk, not someone with heavy identity politics and even defending convicted pedophiles (yes, Ruffalo did this), they wouldn't have this issue

    • @ashleypanzica2696
      @ashleypanzica2696 Місяць тому +4

      W-what? That's disgusting! 😑🤢

    • @MrOrcshaman
      @MrOrcshaman Місяць тому

      @ashleypanzica2696 yep, the Joseph Rosenbaum case, the convicted pedophile who joined in the 2020 riots and tried to attack Kyle Rittenhouse, after Kyle defended himself the woke mob saw Rosenbaum's death as 'one of their own', and even after it was made public to all he was a convicted child rap*st, Ruffalo defended him like a martyr, and never addressed the facts about what he did.

    • @JaredHerron-vj6rf
      @JaredHerron-vj6rf Місяць тому

      Mark defending pedopiles? Nah bring back Edward Norton .

    • @detectiveluck2899
      @detectiveluck2899 Місяць тому +2

      Wait he did what???

    • @MrOrcshaman
      @MrOrcshaman Місяць тому

      @@detectiveluck2899 yep, just Google mark ruffalo defends joseph rosenbaum

  • @LeonFray-hw8ko
    @LeonFray-hw8ko Місяць тому +29

    The reason why the hulk got nerfed so bad was because he is one of the embodiments of masculine energy and the m she u can’t allow that to happen

    • @animezilla4486
      @animezilla4486 Місяць тому +3

      Not to mention that the incredible Hulk movie for the MCU didn't do well the box office

    • @user-vi4xy1jw7e
      @user-vi4xy1jw7e 29 днів тому +3

      I can't believe you really typed this unironically. You sound like the generic antiwokie.

    • @user-vi4xy1jw7e
      @user-vi4xy1jw7e 29 днів тому +2

      There's plenty of masculine MCU characters. We're seeing it with Red Hulk too. No idea what you're going on about it. Lmao

  • @manwiththeplan4446
    @manwiththeplan4446 Місяць тому +12

    Great video. Honestly, Hulk 2008 is so different in terms of tone, characterization of Hulk/Banner, and having a different actor playing Hulk, that i don't consider it canon to the mcu( i mean that In a good way). 2008 handled the Hulk perfectly in terms of power, character, and design. Mark Ruffolo is a whiny prick( both as Bruce and in real life) and even with the audio editing, I can still hear his goofy voice. Hulk is so damaged in the MCU, that he'd be better off in a rebooted movie series.

  • @r3n3gad33
    @r3n3gad33 Місяць тому +27

    Marvel Shills: OMG Marvel is cooking I can't wait for RDJ as Dr. Doom
    Me: You seriously think that the same bafoons that disrespected their 3rd biggest pre-2008 hero behind Spidey and Wolvey for an entire decade straight will give arguably their greatest villain any justice?

    • @Mr.Starpop
      @Mr.Starpop Місяць тому

      Tbh, idk. I just want a good story bruh

    • @faeyzaihsanulfikri9975
      @faeyzaihsanulfikri9975 Місяць тому

      God please don't let those fools ruin doom

    • @JonathanGaeta
      @JonathanGaeta 27 днів тому

      @@faeyzaihsanulfikri9975 they will. I don’t have shill glasses on thinking they won’t ruin Doom, trust me they will

    • @150Hello
      @150Hello 13 днів тому +1

      ​@@JonathanGaetaYeah, I have zero hope in them not screwing up Dr Doom. He's likely just gonna be another Tony Stark clone just like Ultron was. Seeing Doom on the big screen cracking lame jokes is gonna make me sick to my stomach, and I just know that it's going to happen because the MCU is notoriously bad at writing compelling villains that aren't grey caricatures that get made a joke out of and then killed off just as fast as they appeared (There are exceptions like Killmonger and Infinity War Thanos, but most of the villains suck)

  • @ComicsForLife2023
    @ComicsForLife2023 7 днів тому +1

    Marvel (essentially Disney now) doesn’t give a fuck about Marvel characters at all! It’s not only the Hulk. 😏

  • @andycampbell3929
    @andycampbell3929 Місяць тому +5

    The hulk is neutral at best, but to be a hero he has to be good. Hulk is badly represented. Same issue with Kraven

  • @tk9406
    @tk9406 Місяць тому +4

    I think Hulk Fandom is the perfectly example of why studios will air on the side of making the same thing over and over.

  • @leejones2113
    @leejones2113 Місяць тому +8

    They say it's universal. They won't allow Disney to make a movie.

  • @steveyj3002
    @steveyj3002 12 днів тому +1

    Sony should sell the rights to Spider-Man back to Marvel and so should Universal for the Hulk because they’re not doing anything at all with the Hulk an Marvel is only doing so much without majority control and and half profit

  • @Rebelheart1985
    @Rebelheart1985 Місяць тому +4

    Putting aside that Nat would’ve made 10x more sense with Steve or Bucky, they REALLY did my boy Hulk dirty.

  • @Joe-ve9xz
    @Joe-ve9xz Місяць тому +3

    They probably view a character that gets angry as toxic

  • @nightwing1491
    @nightwing1491 24 дні тому +2

    Hulk having a kid actually happened in the comics and him having a kid out of no where after the She-Hulk showed just showed me he had a whole ass character arc off screen which is incredibly terrible to that character.

  • @redmistbluemiss
    @redmistbluemiss 29 днів тому +2

    The other thing too is Skar isn't Banner's son he's Hulk's. I don't understand how Marvel Cinema still doesn't get The Hulk IS his own person.

  • @yandereneko5523
    @yandereneko5523 Місяць тому +1

    For the solo movie thing, it is some weird legal situation where they don't have the rights to a solo movie but have the rights for everything else.

  • @cttommy73
    @cttommy73 Місяць тому +3

    I went and watched the second Hulk movie in theaters when I was a kid and loved it. Never understood why people didn't like it as much, but do agree that the story was definitely bleaker than even Spiderman, and I would argue, as dark as Batman Dark Knight, if not more so.

  • @EVGriffinJr
    @EVGriffinJr Місяць тому +9

    I feel vindicated with Incredible Hulk, 2008. I think back in the day I was one of the few defenders of this film. I thought it was a good movie. Now I see everybody’s coming around to what I’ve been saying for years. No offense to Mark Ruffalo, but I’m much prefer Edward Norton‘s version of Dr. Banner. It’s closer to who he is to me and, I’m around 50 years old so I would’ve been a child when the old TV show was on. Maybe I’m a little biased because he reminded me of Bill Bixby.

    • @doro626
      @doro626 Місяць тому +1

      I LOVED that movie. My only problem with it, is the problem I have with most marvel films. Too much third act finale CGI. Ruined the Killmonger and Black Panther battle. Ruined the final battle in Captain marvel. Ruined the final battle in Secret Invasion, I could go on. Blade taught us, that your hero's finale should be more personal. Actor, vs actor. Thanos worked because they spent like a billion dollars on CGI.

    • @TheMilhouseExperience
      @TheMilhouseExperience Місяць тому +1

      You should watch all the deleted scenes. There’s an even better/ more compelling version of that film. And it isn’t just the alternate opening, that somehow made it into the video game.

    • @EVGriffinJr
      @EVGriffinJr 29 днів тому

      @ I have seen the deleted scenes from that film. I wish they would’ve left those in.

    • @DavidMartinez-ce3lp
      @DavidMartinez-ce3lp 29 днів тому +1

      I've always thought it was a good movie, along with Ang Lee's Hulk.

    • @doro626
      @doro626 29 днів тому +1

      @@DavidMartinez-ce3lp Whoa, whoa, whoa. lets not get crazy now and bring Ang Lee into this.

  • @hezekiahthomas837
    @hezekiahthomas837 Місяць тому +2

    I honestly never thought I would see the day they would destroy the hulk over multiple years. The incredible hulk was the last time he was at his peak

  • @gerardjames4110
    @gerardjames4110 29 днів тому +1

    Deadass bruh, you're absolutely right about the way they've done Big Green after Norton portrayed him so well. Nothing but comic relief in the MCU.

  • @bensboneyard6379
    @bensboneyard6379 Місяць тому +1

    I really enjoyed the video, your video really talks about stuff I really don’t hear people talk about when it comes to the hulk and how his relationship with black widow doesn’t make sense, also I agree mark looks nothing like Bruce at all

  • @danielcastaneda4975
    @danielcastaneda4975 Місяць тому +4

    14:52 " stop tañking to her because she is mid snyway " damnn 😂😂😂

  • @johnprime1147
    @johnprime1147 15 днів тому +1

    Basically for the first Hulk movie. They made the dumbest move by putting it between those two movies. Whether it's bad or not that movie would have made much more if it hadn't had to compete with two amazing movies. The Hulk film itself? I've never found it to be bad or slow. Yes it rarely had humor but that's fine. Do think a bit more humor is fine but fo3 serious things especially for something like the Hulk's background? A more serious tone is perfect. Later on? Maybe a bit more humor but once again the movie was good with what it did.
    Sadly Marvel was blind and didn't see the good potential and threw away Nortan. Pushed the Hulk kinda back in the Avengers but overall continued from his solo film pretty good. Then age of ultron came and it went downhill from there if it hadn't started already

  • @Galaxyverse9
    @Galaxyverse9 Місяць тому +1

    Immortal hulk issue 1-50. True overseeing of hulks past and powers I'd highly suggest people check it out. Also hulk has the best healing factor confirmed .

  • @Cosmicfury100
    @Cosmicfury100 Місяць тому +2

    I feel like they don't know how to handle displaying power at the scale needed to let their characters be at full power

  • @Weaver1-s4k
    @Weaver1-s4k 29 днів тому +1

    6:26 wait so Cap could withstand Scarlet Witch's mind control because he's a supersoldier? Isn't one of Hulk's things that he's IMMUNE to all forms of mind control?

  • @noahknight4039
    @noahknight4039 Місяць тому +3

    Because Marvel doesn’t have the distribution rights they basically treat him like how they used to treat the X-Men in the comics when Fox had the film rights.
    They really could have just replaced him entirely with She-Hulk since she’s under their control.
    And have the hulk play a side character which is basically what he is in the MCU.

    • @JonathanCute-e4f
      @JonathanCute-e4f 29 днів тому

      Id prefer she hulk takes his place and he fades into the background they just keeping making hulk worse

  • @Moviemaniac174892
    @Moviemaniac174892 Місяць тому +3

    The incredible hulk 2008 is the GOAT

  • @Buckets32
    @Buckets32 Місяць тому +7

    How does hulk lose to thanos and doesn’t want to fight again. Where did his rage go? where’s he’s healing? Where’s world breaker hulk

    • @JonathanCute-e4f
      @JonathanCute-e4f 29 днів тому +2

      Its a complete character assassination of there's any avenger who'd want the smoke it'd be hulk

  • @GojiraSteve2019
    @GojiraSteve2019 Місяць тому +3

    "Look how they massacred my boy"

  • @DFGHulkOfficial
    @DFGHulkOfficial Місяць тому +2

    It never made sense why we never got at least a Hulk Show that takes place between the events of the movies so that way we can get a proper adaptation of the Hulk's Mythos done right. "Universal has the rights so Disney can't legally make one" No they had the Distribution rights to a solo Live action Hulk Movie and nothing else. Marvel/Disney could absolutely make a good Hulk Movie if they changed the title to something that isn't just Hulk or they could make a Solo Hulk Show that takes place between the events of the movies so that way we get a proper adaptation with all the good stuff from the source material. We in fact were supposed to get that year's ago back in the 2010s directed by Guillermo del Toro and was gonna be comic accurate but ultimately it was shut down several times by Kevin Feige and the other higher ups at Disney/Marvel because they wouldn't have direct control over the narrative of the show so they scrapped it in favor of other shows they did have more say in like Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D., Cloak & Dagger and even the Marvel Netflix Shows. Yeah they straight up denied Hulk fans of anything at that point and now we have barely any journey for Banner/Hulk and all we can hope for is if he shows up in a Captain Falcon America Movie as a cameo. Hulk deserves better.

  • @whosatboogie4208
    @whosatboogie4208 29 днів тому +1

    The Hulk in the comics use to put fear into my heart when I was younger because I didn’t know when Bruce transformed into the Hulk you didn’t know what was gonna happen. The only thing I knew was that all hell would break loose.
    Now the MCU just made a forgettable goofball.

  • @hulk-smash-deez-hose.7951
    @hulk-smash-deez-hose.7951 24 дні тому +2

    The only hulk we ever consider was, bill bixby as David banner, and Edward Norton , 2008 version of the hulk warehouse scene is still better than anything marvel has done with ruffalo.

  • @OdaNobunaga15
    @OdaNobunaga15 Місяць тому +4

    It’s not that Marvel hates the Hulk, the Russo brothers hate the hulk. They were the ones that neutered Hulk. The first two Avengers movie and Ragnarok did him right. And now with the Russos coming back to direct Doomsday I have even less hope they will get the Hulk right.

    • @tbone2123
      @tbone2123 Місяць тому +3

      I agree except I say hulk been ruined since age of ultron.
      Made him get knocked out by hulk buster, that should never happen
      Ragnarok made him a child who pouts and a joke of character and gave him yet another L in a fight .
      Infinity war made him a punk and coward

  • @1Grumpymonk
    @1Grumpymonk День тому

    I thought it was a legal thing. Disney isn't allowed to do a solo hulk movie without Universal's "okay". That's why he's been more of a side character in every Disney appearance and done so dirty.

  • @thomaswellerton3783
    @thomaswellerton3783 27 днів тому +1

    Hulk's healing factor is actually better than Wolverine, he can heal from worse things and faster, so fast that when he gets gutted like a fish and holds his insides for a second his hand gets healed into his stomach and he has to rip it out, so fast sometimes other people get caught in it and die via passive healing

  • @alienstar2088
    @alienstar2088 21 день тому

    In my opinion: The correct thing to do was to - at the end of Ragnorok, keep the Hulk on Sakaar. Have Thor ditch him for trying to save Asgard from Hela. This could've enabled Marvel to make three Hulk films. One that takes heavy inspiration from Planet Hulk and a two part film which takes inspiration from World War Hulk. At the end of it all, we could've had the Hulk leave Earth forever to care for his own empire on Sakaar and leave behind Skar, his son, as the Earth's new strongest Avenger.

  • @Abner-gu3ve
    @Abner-gu3ve 29 днів тому +1

    Used to love MCU Hulk, but man he hasn’t hit the same Endgame. How could such an iconic hero get shafted so hard 😭

  • @JoeChillton
    @JoeChillton День тому

    As far as i'm concerned Ford being Ross is just a star move to make people interested, like casting Clooney as Batman
    Sam Elliot is a perfect Thunderbolt Ross or was in the 03 Hulk. He has that stern voice, that hatred for the Banner family and especially could believably go after Hulk with no doubt.

  • @justinarzola4584
    @justinarzola4584 Місяць тому +1

    Hulk's been my favorite marvel character along with Spider-Man and to a small extent Wolverine since i was a kid and seeing how awfully they treat him as an almost secondary character despite being one of Marvel's flagship characters makes me just as angry as the Green Goliath himself.

  • @JonathanCute-e4f
    @JonathanCute-e4f 29 днів тому +1

    I almost turned into hulk myself seeing how they not only disgraced him but she hulk and skaar also making abomination a parody smh

  • @Punished_Luna
    @Punished_Luna Місяць тому +1

    The Hulk isn't getting fucked over because they hate him they are literally being held back because of Movie rights and licensing, which doesn't allow them to make solo films. BUT everything they've done with his character in the MCU is totally the fault of the writers

  • @angus80w
    @angus80w Місяць тому +4

    Omg I love how you use Lego Marvel Superheroes soundtrack

  • @thesilentscreamer1595
    @thesilentscreamer1595 Місяць тому +1

    As a long-time Hulk fan, I absolutely agree with you on this one. Heck, while Ang Lee's The Hulk is not very good, at least that movie has MORE RESPECT for the Hulk than the MCU after the first Avengers movie. The Incredible Hulk is the GOAT version and the most accurate version of the Hulk on the big screen. If I remember correctly, Edward Norton actually wanted to make the Hulk a more relevant character in the MCU and had some heated discussions with Marvel executives (I don't remember who) on how they should portray the Hulk. But nope, Universal thought that making the Hulk like that wasn't worth it so they let Disney take control of the character and ... Well, we all know how THAT turned out.

  • @getschwifty5537
    @getschwifty5537 Місяць тому +2

    Also I get it, they have to give Thanos a strong impression. But just evoking the Worf Effect is lazy and humiliating for whatever character gets picked out for it, let alone poor Hulk after a streak of losses.
    So okay, show him as capable of trading blows with BOTH Thor and Hulk at the same time. Show him as actually having to work for it a little but still not be super pressed by them but he quickly gets bored and just wants to continue his mission. And at that point he already has one of the six "fuck you I win" buttons in his possession so just have him decide to stop playing around and wipe Thor and Hulk with Power stone hacks they just can't deal with. That way they aren't really humiliated cause it's not like he beat them at their own game, and the audience is shown that Thanos is tough enough to throw down with the classic powerhouses but also isn't fucking around and will do whatever it takes to win, including flagrantly using the stones in combat, thus making him a terrifying and unstoppable force.
    But nope, Feige and the Russos were inclined to gargle the Iron Nuts from the very start, just because Marvel fumbled with Norton's movie. So instead only Tony is allowed to lay a meaningful smackdown on Thanos in IW.

  • @usmansubhani7482
    @usmansubhani7482 2 дні тому

    12:20 She-Hulk ruins both Hulk and herself by having the same power as him (which she didn’t originally). It makes having Anger Empowerment common.
    Ironic they ruined The Hulk and She-Hulk at the same time.

  • @dorianjones8778
    @dorianjones8778 Місяць тому

    In all fairness originally, hills was bought by Universal, which is y he doesn't get any solo films, im not sure if that's still the case, but there came a definite point (ragnarok) where they just decided hulk wasn't worth exploring character wise which I'll never forgive

  • @young5395
    @young5395 26 днів тому +1

    16:15 Omega dog shi writing right there. As a scientist bro would have immediately went to, "You don't have an alter-ego, a second half? This is completely different from my case ... Stay right there I need to contact *Doctor Samson* about this. This could be an incredible break through for me in understanding the Hulk." Or something along those lines. They made him a perpetual loser because they hate the male characters. They don't even take the time to understand the character. They just throw it to the wolves as soon as the here Hero instead of Heroine. How dumb is that?

  • @armandocruz7599
    @armandocruz7599 10 днів тому

    The fact that Universal studio actually owns the character Hulk , is why the MCU occasionally takes dumps on the character. Now if they actually get ownership, things will be different.

  • @millasboo
    @millasboo Місяць тому +3

    2:13 I disagree as that was to mimic a comic book

    • @KaraboLegwaila
      @KaraboLegwaila 10 днів тому +1

      How the hell does he not know that?

    • @millasboo
      @millasboo 10 днів тому

      @@KaraboLegwailaidk though to be fair the original audience sadly didn’t know. I remember watching it as a kid and loved the transitions but was extremely confused about the narrative/ plot until i got older as it also simulated the way Bruce repressed his abuse and how he was literally living in a comic book world but he didn’t realize it

  • @gregviews
    @gregviews Місяць тому +1

    12:54 also had to comment again... who was in that ship that shot at the hulk that got his cousin turned into she hulk? 😂 they never talked about that

  • @GonaldDlover24
    @GonaldDlover24 Місяць тому

    Correct me if I'm wrong but i thought the reason why he couldn't get a solo movie is because of the licensing issue. That's why he gets featured in movies instead of his own solo film.

  • @samuelbell9106
    @samuelbell9106 12 днів тому

    0:55
    Why would Disney let the embodiment of toxic masculinity be put on a pedestal and have any redeeming qualities? 🤷

  • @sibusisomoyo464
    @sibusisomoyo464 15 днів тому

    7:20 TBF it would be useless to create something that is called the Hulk buster. If it can't, at least knock out the Hulk.
    Like, imagine if batman built a suit to fight Superman, and that suit does absolutely nothing.

    • @lonewolf_a_real1
      @lonewolf_a_real1  15 днів тому

      @@sibusisomoyo464 lol it did do nothing, the kryptonite did the trick. But I get what you're saying. I always though hulk buster was meant to hold him at bay not defeat him

  • @redc7146
    @redc7146 Місяць тому +1

    I think Hulk and Thor are both going through a similar humiliation ritual. Neither one is allowed to be as cool or epic as their comic counterparts. Thor losing basically all of the high fantasy speech mannerisms is the biggest tell.

  • @23redcomet
    @23redcomet 5 днів тому

    Disney doesn’t own the rights to Hulk movies, Universal Studios does, so they can’t make a mcu movie unless they do a contract like with Sony. That’s why years ago they were killing off characters they didn’t have movie rights to in the comics.

  • @Jetanium
    @Jetanium 14 днів тому

    You from Baltimore? Them dew's and yew's killing me 😂

  • @professorxavier620
    @professorxavier620 21 день тому

    As much as I love Endgame, I hate the time skip from regular hulk to professor hulk. I know putting a movie in-between wouldn't work, but I wish a big production was made, at least later, focusing just on hulk and how he became professor hulk

  • @BlaxkSun
    @BlaxkSun 28 днів тому

    Hulk legally can’t have a solo movie

  • @SlayerOfTheDamned
    @SlayerOfTheDamned 28 днів тому +1

    This video is too ignorant to actually be taken seriously.
    -Edward was too difficult to deal with and constantly rewrote the script
    -Hulk rights were in limbo for distribution. Because of this why would you fight for a movie with rights issues which is barely profitable
    -Because of said issues Hulk never received another solo movie, but was at least a side character
    I can say more, but after five minutes I couldn’t watch further. I have my grievances on how the MCU handled the Hulk. But this creator is just wrong and or ignorant to the real world problems of the Hulk these past few years.

  • @mala4931
    @mala4931 23 дні тому

    I like this content, feels humble. Its my first video though but I like this

  • @stanleylee3329
    @stanleylee3329 26 днів тому

    Hulk, who had the second MCU movie ever-only ever got one movie. In nearly 20 years. Hulk who was on Marvel’s Mt. Rushmore was never made a focus of the franchise, and when everybody got their revenge on Thanos in Endgame-he didn’t.
    In fact, the one thing that should’ve been a Hulk focus and earned a movie-the World War Hulk storyline-is jjst a side story to Thor in Ragnarock. The disrespect of Hilk by the MCU is completely disgusting and genuinely disgusting.

  • @nivekleveb8872
    @nivekleveb8872 27 днів тому

    At least he didnt get nerfed in his only solo film and have his core traits given to his supporting characters and then killed offscreen in a bid to exploit an actor's death and then cant even appear in a cartoon.