How does the 612HP Ferrari Roma Stack Up? - Two Takes
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- Опубліковано 31 січ 2021
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The Ferrari Roma isn't all new, as it does share a basic architecture with the Portofino, but it's new enough that as a driver, it feels like a totally new product. It's got the twin-turbo V8 mounted up front, but behind the front axle, for proper mid-engined handling. The fact that it's got long-tubes for the exhaust gives it a bass note you don't get with the F8 Trubito - most welcome. And it's got a very comfortable and all-new interior that we kinda love, and kinda hate. Ultimately, it's a very strong contender in the high-end daily driver category occupied by the Bentley Continental and Mercedes-AMG GT ranges.
Ferrari of North America provided the vehicle, insurance, and a tank of fuel for this review.
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This is the definitely best “co-review” yet. The great conversation and bouncing off each other from the podcast is finally coming through to the videos
The ratio from 2nd to 3rd is a huge difference Zack spotting out faxs
personal take, it seems like Ferrari was doing the digital interior for the sake of...making it modern and digital? It's like they're trying to make a statement "yeah we can do high tech interior stuffs as well." Sure it looks cool but if you have watched Harry's Garage review on the infotainment, it's a hot mess. Things were slow to respond and a lot of it seemed super gimmicky. I cant imagine how these will hold up in 3 years.
This is the trend in general. It is horrible. We have EV's to thank for this as that is where we are going and everything is going to be electric controlled through a touch interface. I hate it. Long-term this will depreciate and date any interior.
IMO, the biggest problem is that they use slow CPU/GPUs on the systems, its a +200k car ffs, put some nice processors in it!
I wish they pulled a Porsche and kept the analog tach in the middle
They won’t hold up. As we all know these tech gimmicks are installed for the car companies to sell cars to non-car people. There is no support for their own tech, meaning they won’t update it over time. Those companies that do update their tech for you will also charge you a hefty premium. I’d rather an analog everything car with a nice screen. Buttons over digital touch 7 out of 7 days out of the week.
Great car to rent on vacation, plug in a song and touch nothing else
I feel like there was a missed opportunity when the manettino knob was described. "In this car the manettino goes to 5, which is one more than in previous cars. Is it really better? Yes, it's one more than 4."
Those interior electronics are going to age like milk in the sun.
Indeed. I hate all the tech focus in cars. Every screen and sensor will ruin the cars for the future. Today's cars will cost a fortune to maintain in 20 years
They're already sour. Hard to believe most modern Ferrari owners don't still prefer real gauges and controls.
@Sir Feynman snowflake ❄️
Well said, that’s why I prefer portofino m - far more timeless
For real….
I love Farrahs split personality when he’s driving and when he’s a passenger,lol!!! He’ll be str8 mobbing when he’s driving and Zach doesn’t say a word,but when he’s riding and Zach is driving he gets shook sometimes.🤣🤣🤣
I noticed that too
Jon Michaels He’s gotten really jumpy in some of the past ones they’ve done together. This one wasn’t too bad,lol!!
I’ll talk smack about this car all day and yet I still want it.
You put my feeling into words
I no understand you....
as a person who designs HMIs for a living. That system is so......l.a.g.g.y. Part of creating good digital experiences is to not have ANY lag at all. A 100% digital touch interfaces are clearly not the best of solutions. There is a time and place for different types of inputs (touch, voice, gesture, button, knob, switches). Each one has its benefits and disadvantages.
Its pre-production car
Agreed; that looked painful, even on camera (which is what, something between 24 and 60 FPS?). I almost wondered if it was like a 20Hz refresh rate when I saw him scrolling through at the beginning, but I'm guessing it's CPU/GPU bottlenecked, not refresh-rate-limited. That'd be unacceptable on a $25k car IMO, to say nothing of how bad it looks on a car of this caliber. Worse still, a laggy HMI will age particularly appallingly.
That was an educated take. Thank you, very interesting
@@malleusmaleficarum4572 It’s not. A test drove a production one and it was exactly the same.
Ferrari updated it. It's not laggy now. Trimming out view max mode and streamlining the code really helped.
Zach looks like the typa guy to buy a Roma
Why not this shit looks insane and it's good to drive.
He definitely double-parks his Ferrari front of the polo clubhouse
@@ZacharyDeanWright how much does it cost to have key scrapes repaired on a Ferrari?
@@ZacharyDeanWright Lmao chill fam
I feel like this should have been a Maserati product. The successor to the GranTurismo. But obviously selling it as a Ferrari means they can sell it for a premium.
Visited the Maserati dealership in 2019, they told me the GT successor was going to be a hybrid... would much rather see the Roma in a body kit lol
I got to drive a 17 Gran Turismo the other day. Got to haul it about 400 miles. Lol
Even the front-end design looks much more like a Maserati GT than any kind of 2+2 front-engined Ferrari
Yeah, but most rich people I know aren't stupid. This car isn't worth $250K. This is probably one of those cars Ferrari dealerships make you buy before they will sell you an F8 Tributo or 812 Superfast.
What’s the point lol if it was a Maserati it would collapse to 20k$ in 1 year lol
I really like how you're able to get your opinions + thoughts across, while being incredibly polite and respectful.
Youre both just pretty damn good people to each other. Makes watching your content even more enjoyable.
Really feel like someone could talk about anything with you and have a good conversation. You could likely have a channel focused on anything you have a passion for. Glad you picked cars for now.
I love the Roma!! Perfect mix between the rear of the classic 400 Superamerica and the front of the modern Monza SP1 / SP2
All this "It should have been a Maserati" or "looks like an aston" is just gibberish. Look back at Ferrari's history, please. Its a beatiful car
"What is understood, needn't be explained"
The Roma just hits the spot for me. The order is in. I love it. I have a 3 year old and I'll be doing 6000 miles a year in it.
Question. Did you even test fit the child seat? Those seats are ridiculous.
Get a used Lusso. V12 and proper room and safety back there.
Any feedback after ...
@@AB-80XThis car easily fits a car seat. In fact due to the wheel position, and unibody structure, the rear seats are directly adjacent to the wheels instead of behind it.
Means this car is safer than the Lusso in the rear/side. The Lusso has a flatter rear end, whereas the Roma has an angled rear end, that protrudes further from the rear seats/wheels. It's also safer in the front with a smaller engine. Bigger engine doesn't mean SAFER. It's the exact opposite.
It means you now have more force/mass, that'll push into the driver compartment through the firewall.
The more you take out of the engine bay, that's not present for safety/crash structure/crumple zones, the safer the car becomes.
With the Lusso, its V12 being further back, gives it a better chance to not breech the firewall.
Anyway, there's plenty of crash photos of the Roma, and the rear occupant's would leave the cars completely unscathed. That's an incredibly safe car.
Where the Lusso is better, simply comes down to cargo space, where you can fit a stroller and other cargo. However, there are small strollers that can fit and fold up like an umbrella instead of a suitcase.
@@Dejan_23UnlimitedStill no feedback, but here's someone using the Roma as a family car hauler.
Ferrari Roma child seat.
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I kinda miss 458's screaming v8 :(
We all do 🥺
Can interest you in the c8 z06?
@@mogulme6190 yes please
The 812 and gtc4 lusso is all they have left. All the rest are turbo.
@@mikemoggerson6651 I hope the do NA V8 with electmotors like the SF90 but without the turbos
Zack: "Ferrari is a T-shirt company that sells cars.."
Me: "I don't even have the T-shirt."
Black tinted tail lights almost always look cheap, and I hope that this doesn't become a trend for cars from factory like "altezza" style tail lights were for a while.
I didn’t know there was a term for those lights. those things make me viscerally sick
Altezza lights were cool though
05 Altima.. oh geez those were bad.
🤣🤣🤣
This looks extremely clean and ties in with the other black accents.
Loving the two-take format. You and Zack having a conversation about the car is a lot like you and the modded car owner for the old One Takes.
I like that Zack's jacket.... Gimme deets, Zack.
Damn, Zach's back must really be f'ed up. He crawled in the driver's seat like an 85 year old man.
Zack's spine is where mine was in about 2011 - highly fucked.
@@TheSmokingTire from carrying the channel :)
@@GtstangLv Lmfao
@@GtstangLv definitely a group effort. Zack does a great job
2021 is the year you guys yoga up before getting down. #titaniumcoresb4youopenthedoors
I really liked this with both of you. You guys feed off of each other well.
Human Machine Interface - sounds like something from the Matrix
Pretty common industry term.
A lot of industrial machinery has a HMI for control.
Yep, it has been around a long time
I like this double take format with both Matt and Zack driving.
What a drive! Y'all are really in sync in conversation. Like two homies hanging out.
This was cool to see you both in the car.
The Hyundai Tiburon of Ferrari lineup
The tiburon was a beautiful little car honestly. It was just cheaply made
@@mogulme6190 it was not beautiful ahaha 🤣
@@lappu911 your opinion, so whatever
@@lappu911 Absolutely horrid
@@lappu911 it is beautiful to me
Way too many electronics in this car, and they all seem pretty outdated already
Seems like you are definitely not going to trade in your Chevy for one.
Normal for supercars
@@chamade166 my 2005 silverado is dependable 😎
@@gavinsorenson461 aren’t most American cars really unreliable? Especially from the 2000s?
@@mikemoggerson6651 aren't most blanket statements really unreliable? Especially from people born after the 2000s?
This is like Ferrari's version of the Aston Martin Vantage.
Hi matt, we really enjoy the two person reviews, please do more!!
Did I hallucinate the Cobra one-take going up, or are we not talking about that? 😆
I would be very happy if this were my “James Bond” Ferrari. In silver, like the DB5.
Really enjoyed this review type. Having Zach next to you is a win imo.
These two takes are dope.
It's beautiful, inside and out. I think it's the best looking Ferrari you can buy today.
I'm always a sucker for a clean looking GT car, especially in such a gorgeous blue
too clean. looks like a computer designed it in a fraction of a second. Absolutely no passion. A vending machine rental car.
Best review of this car!!
Bravi, ragazzi 👏🏼👏🏼
Has a very McLarenesque power delivery, response and sound to it. Looks like crazy fun.
Saw one in person, made my day
Lovely to see you two in the same car
Love those Stratos style wheels, overall it's a stunning car, my favourite looking Ferrari in years...
personally my favourite oem wheels ever
Great video guys, thanks. FYI the cobra video is up but isn't loading (not sure if that was by design)
Hope you guys heal well, because I'm not sure whether I'll be tuning in for your mobility scooter reviews!
"What's the retail on one of those?"
"More than you can afford pal. Ferrari."
"Smoke 'em."
yeah they should bring 2 presscars or a presscar and one of Matts' cars and make a video with two cars in the canyons but first they need to stop granny shifting and learn to double clutch in drag races.
"Like BK you can have it your way"😂
You know its amazing how departed this car is from the F12, 812, and the 488 styling wise, it almost reminds me of that maserati concept car they came out with a number of years ago, like a shurnken down and far less sharktoothy maserati alfieri
while also harkening back to like the first Gen Jaguar XK8's, R's and the DB7 with how smooth its bodywork is, like I'd sooner believe this to be a car that came out in 2001 than 2021
This thing is gorgeous. It actually looks like a clean concept sketch shouldn't really be legal!
I like that Zack is in the one takes now
matt you should make a video about all the cars youve owned
1M subs Congratulations
These videos need more views
Really nice and love that color
Podcast smodcast... but I'm with you William..... in my humble opinion you guys are the benchmark every freaking manufacturer on Earth moves a notch or two or more into credibility or the Cool Zone. Hell unless I'm mistaken just having you guys show up to get the car is a party. If I were buying any other car besides a Porsche I would need a TST stamp of approval. And I'm pretty sure Ferrari would fit in there as well.
Thank you guys there are times when I've experienced an overabundance of liquid in my eyes as I witnessed some of these cars perform.... and I did make a public comment and commitment I believe in April I would be owning a Porsche by June... couldn't pull it off but It Ain't Over Til It's Over.
Thank you again gentleman and thank you Porsche and thank you Ferrari. How fortunate are we as humans to have these engineering Marvels available to us. Think about that. Keep up the good work.
For a turno engine that does sound very nice....achingly pretty car. These will sell like crazy.
I love the reviews like this. co review for the win
I kinda like that it doesn't have a sport shifting auto mode. Forces the owners who don't care about cars to get more involved with driving.
Nope. It annoys the hell out of the owner who wants some response even in auto.
The Roma is targeted towards those who was afraid of driving a normal Ferrari, and wanted something easier to drive.
Spent four hours with it, it's a disaster.
For $250k this is actually amazing. As long as you get the right options & spec. Honestly seems like a great daily
I love this car. Flaws and all its perks outweigh it's shortcomings
I’m so glad they brought back that blue leather interior, my favorite
Brought back? I didn't know they had lost it.
Great review guys...portofino or roma ? Id lean towards the folding hardtop but love the (2+ 2 ) roma too
I was just thinkin to meself, where's me Smokin' tires?? :)
That car is absolutely stunning. SImple and beautiful like the Polestar 1.
Stunning looking but at this price (here in the UK) it's close to a used 812. I think the 812 might offer more?
For sure
812 is the only modern Ferrari I want, and I want it a lot
Hmmm, twin turbo V8 that sounds like a 4 cylinder or an 800 hp screaming V12? Tough one.
Is this Lake Hughes Rd? I absolutely love that road, one of my favorites.
Thx for talking about no “aggressive auto” mode. Sometimes I just want that
Did you guys try driving it hard in auto? Wouldn’t you think it’ll adapt up to the selected driving mode once you start driving like it?
This thing is sick
Bloody good spec that!
Too gorgeous. Finally.
Either Matt has lost weight or that compact Roma has swallowed him up whole.
Oh man that V8 sounds good and zingy.
Sounds like Golf...
Dig the jacket Zack! Lookin sharp. What brand is that?
If you want to use it at a race car you might not want magnetic ride so it's good to have the option. It seems like a vary nice car overall. Great review!
Using a GT car for racing? Why not get one of the more performance oriented cars
A very beautiful car.
Very Aston Martin.
Manscape those" Hairy Knockle's" Bahahah
as much as people hate on the interior we will all have to accept that this is how cars will be made in the future. not a big fan of that but it is what it is
Modern computing compower ahahaha
You guys produce the best videos, and other video producers should use your evaluations for the guide for their videos. Car enthusiasts should seek out your videos always. Well done❤🎉.
5:53 - 5:58 absolutely says it all about this car 😆👍🏽
i think that bass note comes from the dimensions/placement of the downpipe and not from the long exhaust pipes, but i could be wrong. just a hunch
I’m digging Zack’s jacket.
Matt you are wrong about it being the first front engined Ferrari with a 5 position Manettino.
The Lusso and FF has 5 settings.
ESC OFF, SPORT, COMFORT, WET, ICE.
The 812, F12 and TdF which are also front engined has,
ESC OFF, CT OFF, RACE, SPORT, WET.
Love it but that body color grill.... (Unless it’s an all black car, than it’s okay) Besides that it’s a beaut! Can’t wait to see it/try it
This program is rapidly becoming an account of Matt Farah’s lavish lifestyle
Thanks guys. Do you hit the 3.4 sec 0-60 in auto? ...in your example the auto shifting seemed pathetic at half-throttle.
Friggin gorgeous!!
Okay my friend. I took delivery of my new Roma last week and now I have had the chance to really test drive this magnificent car. One thing you said on this video (minute 9 about) that kept me thinking was that in "Automatic" mode, you feel no difference at all in any of the driving modes; Comfort, Sport and Race. Well, may I respectfully share new information with you and please if you get a chance to drive this car again, try it. So it happens that if you are "gentle" with both the Gas and/or the Break pedals, the computer will not engage the "Race" and/or the "Sport" mode settings.
So I purposely decided to be a little bit more "aggressive" with applying pressure to either the gas or break pedals and the car was amazing!!! It felt completely different. In Automatic/Race mode, the shifts happened at much higher RPMs even when going at 40 mph. It kept it in 2nd gear. Downshifting also occurred as expected in Race and Sport modes. So please, drive it again and you'll see what I am talking about.
Best regards!!! ;-)
Year after, still happy or ? Thx
Holy shit, matt must've hit 88mph at 4:28 into the video and traveled back into time.
the roma is so beautiful
Absolutely gorgeous Ferrari, i would pick the Roma over the rest even if money wasn’t an issue!
Love how he takes his seatbelt off before the end of the video, but the driver never even looks at removing his.
“Let’s switch back. No, I’ll just drive it back to the city.”
Looks like a concept.
The owner is mad he didn’t buy a mid engine! Lol 😂
What happened to the 289 Cobra vid that showed up today?
I didn't realize this wasn't just a concept car. If I saw it on the street, I'd probably assume it's an Aston rather than a Ferrari
Witch Aston do you compare it with?
It’s all about that computer compower in modern cars at the end of the day
3:34 The 812SF and the f12 are front engine and also have 5 position manettino.
It's interesting that Ferrari made the point about "first front-engined Ferrari with 5-point Mannetino" when it is demonstrably untrue. Maybe they snuck in a "first V8 front engined?"
@@TheSmokingTire unless they are being super technical... don't know about the 812 but for the f12 almost the entirety of the engine sits behind the front axle, which technically makes it a midengine?
When can we get a One Take on the SF90?
What an awesome car
Excited to see this!!
same here