The Ferrari Roma is a return to Italian elegance | Revelations with Jason Cammisa | Ep. 06
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- Опубліковано 28 кві 2021
- The Roma is a sign that things are changing at Ferrari. For the last decade or so, Ferrari's sports cars have gotten more and more aggressive in looks - that's the opposite of the cars that Enzo Ferrari loved: comfortable, drivable GTs.
In this episode, we examine the meaning behind the Gran Turismo - and how it's an obsolete term today. But also how the Roma, more so than the Ferrari California upon which it's based, is a return to the idea of an everyday Ferrari.
It has adaptive cruise control, free scheduled maintenance, and a back seat. And while it has a rear spoiler, it has no button to make it go up and down - perhaps a way of saying, "leave those showoff antics to the Lamborghini owners."
It is a modern Ferrari, after all, so it has a twin-turbocharged flat-plane-crank V-8; light and incredibly precise electric power steering; an instant-shifting 8-speed dual-clutch automatic; and suspension tuning that makes it feel as though it weighs just 2500 lb.
And it's elegant. And beautiful. It is, alas, a real Ferrari.
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Jason could make me fall in love with a mid 90s chevy fwd sedan. He makes any car seem like the greatest specimen of its time
Summed it up perfectly. I legit want a V60 polestar because of him
that's the brilliance in his approach
You're totally right! But is it me or at some angles he looks too much like Adam Sandler? LOL...
Gen 1 caravan with 2.2 turbo is where its at. Bottom end and trans can take 600/600 hp/trq at the wheels and an LSD is like $350.
Well there is one I feel in love with a 90s fwd GM car at least..
Pontiac grand prix by Mclaren. So much cool tech for the time. So cool looking. Refined by Mclaren. Shame they never sold them here in Germany
Jason I hope Hagerty is paying you enough because you are carrying this channel, lol. Not only is your content interesting, but you always talk about uncommon car topics and I always learn something. Damn entertaining as well. Take care and thanks!
Hey what about hagerty's red line rebuilds? I would say theyre carrying this channel more so
@@daviddefortier5970 honestly I haven’t heard of them, I’ll have to look into it.
@@curtr.5083 For real? The Redline Rebuild series is by far the most popular and viewed on the channel.
@@A-Town-ft8dx I think Jason appeals to the car history and engineering nerds. The wrenching shows are completely boring to me because on a free Saturday afternoon, I'd rather be behind the wheel than under the car.
@@HandsomeAlex25 that’s a solid argument!
The Roma gives me 612 Scaglietti vibes. An underappreciated gem of a car.
I was on the fence put my deposit down after a test drive it's a wonderful Ferarri
That's definitely because of the grill
The 612 and the 456. Both were smooth and elegant and both are highly underrated even today.
True. Pretty much all the front engines GTs are underappreciated.
Lies again? Ferrero Rocher Fasting Ramadan
5:30 - That's the only reason why I bought my last car.
The key smelled good.
Glen?! This was the last channel I thought I'd see in the comments 😅
What car was that?
"Depending on your point of view. Both are probably valid" LMFAOO
Cammisa’s screen presence is unmatched. Such a charismatic presenter with humor and intelligence that just draws you. Keep it up.
As an English man I can honestly say no1 comes close to Clarkson as the master of Comedy car journalism, this is also why Too gear when Clarkson Hammond and May were presenters it was the most watched TV program in the world.
Anthony Esposito, your lighting and photography work on those videos is simply outstanding!
Well written, very well executed and performed, this guy has a great sense of humour & personality.
I like how he doesn't try to be funny all the time, nor target the casual audience. He makes content for people who are into cars and then adds enough humor so t's not so dry.
One of the best car journalists.
personality, humour, why you cry that?
Except the "dolce vita" part, I was cringing so hard
@@wolfsworkshop9095 Yes Dulce and Dolce are worlds apart (culturally) especially for someone with an Italian surname. Disgrazia!!
I see a video from Jason. I click! It’s that simple!
I was about to say that. I can listen to this man ramble about basically anything. What a treasure.
@@arup02 That's why I listened to Carmuddgeon!
If only he had his own channel lol
Yep. We click before we watch
How many times has that line been used by how many people and still getting how many likes?
How have I missed this show for TWO years???? I can't stop watching!
Imagine if Jason was your college lecturer, how much stuff would you learn? Love the tongue-in-cheek and unapologetic approach - a true petrolhead/design aficionado. His reviews on the 924 and Saab 900 Turbo are brilliant
Pretty much every single revelation and drag race videos of Jason are work of art ..
They are true masterpiece of automotive journalism ...
Finally someone telling the truth that every other journalist can't tell❤️❤️ jason is the best
@Black Dad Clarkson and Hammond are still a bit of an ass tbh, I liked May more than those two. But Camissa here is so knowledgeable about the history, especially the buisness bits and the tiff between VW and Ferrari. Another classic example of ruining masterpieces by greedy corporates.
I still don't understand why exactly ferrari had to make a cheap move like sf90? They made the ultra exclusive la ferrari as one of the greatest things on road and pumped out a 1000 hp hybrid sport in half of the price! Didn't that just ruined the purpose of existence of a car like la ferrari? This is the same thing McLaren did with 720s where they made that car so fast by putting the P1 gasoline engine in that thing and it smashed every cars in a drag race, later people found out they are cheating on HP figures.
It was just a personal thought.
any Tesla is faster...
@@lucasrem True.
But that’s not the point. It’s much as I am in awe of their performance and accomplishments as I’ve driven and been driven in them... they are antiseptic experience that doesn’t capture my heart the way the Ferrari can or other cars special cars with even far less power. It’s not just about what you do, it’s how you do it.
@@lucasrem i'd rather own a proper car than a tech product. You can have your 0-200 and your 1/4 mile numbers all you want. When that corner comes up, you'll be dead in the water and I wont even bother talking about driver engagement. Keep your fast RC, i want a real car.
@@elwingy meanwhile I'm just here happy with my 180hp manual miata that gets passed by minivans on the highway :)
Montezemolo deserves all the praise he's been given, he is a genius and a madman in a good sense. He was maybe the only guy on the planet who could replace Enzo Ferrari, and look what cars he gave us in the last decades. He brought Schumacher, Todt and Brawn to the scuderia, he WAS Ferrari as much as Enzo himself. And now take a look what Ferrari has become without him, car after car that seam just like random Sportscars (SF90, F8 wtf?) this Roma is the only hope that they'll maybe not ruin the brand, but I guess with the SUV all hope is gone.
I cannot agree more but if SUV models can keep the Ferrari alive and fund the development of delightful cars in future, I can turn my judging eyes away from them. I won't welcome, but I will tolerate.
Or is it? I think the Purosangue is magnificent
@selkhadian Maybe if Ferrari focused more on making their version of the Bentley SUV or Range Rover
7:45 Marchionne "brilliant businessman, not a car guy and definitely not a brand guy"
PERFECT
The Ferrari Roma is what made me love Ferrari again, the elegance and beauty we expect is finally delivered, for fun I would rather drive a Porsche, however, this is what Ferrari should be, the beauty behind the madness, not the madness itself🙃
"Do Not Attempt". Don't worry, I can't afford to.
One day you will.
The GOAT of car reviews bringing the 🔥 again
11:34 Damn that tingles
I just discovered this channel and already love it! I was a teenager that had many 1:18 Ferrari models and always knew the latest gossip about future models. But over the last decade it's true that they're no longer beautiful and there are soooo many special editions. I could list off all of the Ferraris from 1980 until 2000, but I don't actually know what their current range is. It'll be interesting to see what happens over the next decade.
Cammisa does it again. Outta the park. IMO America's best Auto journalist... gee can I name another?
Love these stories. Cammisa's best work by far.
I love these videos. The presentation keeps you so interested! I have been a fan of Jason since I watched his 190E vs E30 video. Great presenter!
Link?
@@jannadrielcervo7753 it’s behind motor trends pay wall now. But I think you can get 14 days free or something like that. Worth it for that video and one on his e30 wagon vs a new m340i on track
@@ervin7178 Alright, thanks man.
Jason is on a level no other car reviewer can even comprehend
I have seen so many other channels but somehow the videos of Hagerty have that perfect combination of exceptional video, interesting in-depth topics and the most unique presentations. Im lucky to have stumbled upon this channel.
The Roma is hands down my favourite Ferrari right now, and that’s saying something considering my neighbour has a 812 SF on his driveway.
As much as J love how the Roma arouses Daytona-esque feelings of elegance and prominence in me, I’m sorry, but the 812 still takes the cake.
Completely different ends of the spectrum though considering the 812 is the V12 GT and this is the “lower” end GT.
Damn where do you live? My neighbor has needles in his driveway lol
Nice neighborhood. Mine's full of CUV's and pickup trucks.
My neighbors don’t have a driveway.
Someone must live in some absurdly fucking rich suburb of Toronto or Vancouver... -_-
We need a video like that about Pagani, please🙏
I think Horacio interviews are in depth enough that you can get a good sense of the story and the passion from the man himself. Not that Jason wouldn't do an amazing job...
Jason, you were made for this. Ridiculously enjoyable on every episode. Keep up the great work, and the passion flowing!
Jason is one of the greats. Great story telling, writing, presenting….all of it. Well done.
Thank you, as a Porsche guy I still think the Ferrari's of the last years looked wrong, but I loved the old Ferrari's for their looks.
But as The Grand Tour has shown us. Old cars looks stunning but they suck to drive.
Never seen a car journalist nail the pronunciations this well 🤝
*except the car name ferrari
Or the word coupè! (It's not coop)
Actually, it's coupé. But the point you are making about the pronunciation is spot on.
@@olivermillcarpentry It's coupe (coop) in English. Jason is also Italian. He is fluent in Italian.
@@mjor6406 Americans say it that way. The rest of the world says it as 'coupé', just as it should be said.
That ROMA exhaust sounds great.
My favorite part of the car was the indicator lights on the steering wheel. That's very useful for when having a little fun in this car. (:
These are easily some of the most informative and entertaining car docs I've seen. Kudos!
Always loved more front engined Ferraris more.... 250tr, 250 lusso, 500 superfast, 340 spider and even modern 550 Maranello, 456, f12 and of course this beauty
Totally 👍
Also, I know Jason made that noise after the Quattroporte. Those facelifted Quattroporte 5s are some of my favorite cars. They sound SO good, and they look incredible. Also, the steering is incredible in the Quattroporte.
Just love this series. Great work. Love the warning when Jason is driving the Roma at the end... keep at it please.
11:07 I love Jason, that’s all the review this thing needs. You know what it’s like already
love these, PLEASE keep them coming
This guy describes cars and how good or bad there are so well!
Absolutely adore the Roma, and Jason is always a joy to watch. But the very best part of this entire video was the photo of Enzo with Gilles Villeneuve. Brings back a lot of memories.
I just found this show today and I’m almost done with every episode 😩 Keep up the good work. Can’t wait to see more episodes.
I love this Roma! Beautiful simple design. Not overdoing it like some of their other cars. Less is more!
"The key that Jason Cammisa sniffed" is definitely gonna show up on E-bay one day for thousands.
Some of best UA-cam auto content out there. Been reading him for years, and thrilled they're doing these segments. Top notch. Oh...and the dude can drive to boot.
FYI - I'm a born & bred petrol head who grew up with 50s classics & 60s muscle. Ferrari, Porsche etc... are automotive engineering companies, I hope they get deep into electric as the potential is incredible. Love the Roma in that blue.
I love the fact that you can't put the spoiler up!! Biggest pet peeve...people who park their cars with them up. They were designed to be down and maintain the sleek lines.....otherwise they would have put fixed spoilers on!!
Counterpoint: Some people like them up and it's OK for the owners to be able to choose. It's their car and they should get to do with it what makes them happy. Gatekeeping spoiler placement, sheesh.
until it breaks in the up position.....
Best car review I've seen in years. Outstanding work all around.
Silence is the new loud... There is nothing like a deafening silence when crushing a 0-60 or quarter mile. It is so counterintuitive to what we are used to and at the same time it is such a strong statement, that the acceleration was effortless, that the car could do it over and over again, day in day out, without struggling, without burning a clutch or blowing up a transmission.
Another Well Done Video, Jason is the right balance of information and entertainment and I always look forward to the videos...
The Roma is beautiful! I guess we won’t be winning much in F1 until the street cars get shittier.
it does look like a mazda miata though
@@deadprivacy It doesn't.
@@nvrndingsmmr yep, most certainly does.
It's just another generic coupe , aston vantage, jag ftype . It's striking but bland at the same time . I'd rather buy a second late 2000s aston martin dbs .
i understood that reference...
I live for Jason's Thursday episodes
I like for him to rant like this with fellow carmudgeon Derek Tham Hyphen Scott on Issimi... But this will suffice.
Loving the whole historic aspect of your reviews!!
Ferrari knocked it out of the park with this one. Sophisticated and stylish, but still a performer. Like a GT should be.
Holy smokes one of the best car videos ever, this Roma looks amazing and the history is fascinating. Damn the professionals are coming to kill the dumb fanboy reviewers.
So good! I didn’t want the video to end.
He could have done a 30 minute deep dive, and we would have been captivated the whole time!
@@dougrobinson8602 yes!
Jason I gotta say I really appreciate your content. When you were no longer on the other channel (you know the one) I didn't enjoy their content nearly as much. I have been binge watching these reviews and have watched a couple more than once. Would love to see some motorcycle videos and some off road racing history as well. Keep up the good work
Jason does the best reviewing I have came across in General .
Serious and fun . who knew it could be possible..
Cammisa day! 😁
Anything with a screen will age quicker than ever.
But you you make GT car without a screen in 2021, then its out dated from the factory.
@@DuBstep115 That’s why you make them so you can just put an iPad or whatever in the same location but, that might be to Toyota for The prancing horse...
@@markmiller4503 Hopefully you will never design cars
How tho
@James Smith it looks nothing like an accord 😂
"Back in the day when almost all cars sucked, GT was code for a car that didn´t suck."
Loving this straightforward explanation from Jason. :D
"Over caffeinated pedestrian" ! Simply brilliant! I love your show guys, this is my new favorite auto motor sport channel.
I am once again asking you to play the driving sequence at the end without music.
I feel like Jason was channeling his inner Alton Brown in this episode
100%
The big thing with the Roma too is also how it slots and participates in the big change in Ferrari's lineup. For decades, you had the entry mid-engined V8 supercar, the high end Berlinetta with a front mid-engined V12, the luxury four seater with the front engined V12, and every now and then the hypercar with a mid-engined V12 (then add the little V8 front engined CC later). Now, the big V12 luxury four seater loses a big chunk of its GT credentials by becoming an SUV, the hypercar and the supercar lose cylinders but gain power with new electric assistance and become staples in the lineup. That would have left a big gap in the Ferrari lineup with a lot of space between a meek CC and the big bad SUV. Ferrari is bridging that gap by creating the Roma, which is just... leaner when compared with the Portofino, and fits better in its really hyperactive 2020s range.
The onboard footage really highlights how massive those mirrors are, wow!
Oh my god the production already was awesome but now somehow they managed to make it even better
Knobs and buttons are what we want, yet manufacturers keep taking them away. It's madness
the screens in the cars ! We already have enough tech around us. Definitely buttons and knobs enhance the experience of being in a super car.
Bentley continental still keeps those though
This is the 3rd episode ive seen...and I started with the older ZR1 Corvette video.
Hagerty...you have nailed it!!! Mh break times are now filled with awesome stories and knowledge.
Jason is the best choice for these. The tidbits of comedy and dark laid back atmosphere make it relaxing. The in car drives at the end...👌👌👌👌 always left wondering what a car sounds like or drives like...not anymore...Hagerty is gettin it done for ya. 👍👍 keep up the great work everyone. We love it!
Jason is the best automotive journalist (in my opinion)..
I remember the ad when it first came out. I agree this is the most beautiful Ferrari in the modern age. Hands down
And the name Roma can be a beautiful girl as beautiful as Roma the car is. Stunning
The red looks even better
That color makes it pop but I still hate the front.
haha jason that key looks like a zippo lighter xD
Could that have been a tip of the hat to all those American soldiers who saved Italy from Germany in WWII ?
Very high quality videos. You’re super engaging and have a great sense of humour. The only thing I wish is that you took these cars on a test drive.
What an absolute golden era for online car review lovers. Thank you Hagerty for everything you produce, and for free! Cheers.
Another brilliant video review from Jason Cammisa. Great job blending perspective, wit, and essential info.
Your definition and explanation of gt and the context won you a new subscriber....welcome and thank you
Jason you are a genius of engagement… You could remove the fact that this video is about a Roma and it would still be pure entertainment. Appreciate the level of effort that goes into this. Well bloody done.
Closest thing ive seen to a classic top gear review in a long time. Felt nostalgic
That drive at the end was my most favorite ever
Jason is always spot on with his reasoning and comments. He's entertaining to watch and keeps me interested in whatever video he's in. I love his snarkiness and sense of humor. Definitely one of the best automotive journalists around today.
Yep, I've been saying this ever since the 812 was premiered - Ferrari is swapping elegance and beauty with monstrous performance and hideously aggressive designs.
Good to see Roma taking a step back
Great video J. Really enjoyed the history of Ferrari. Keep up the great work.
I'm ngl, a matte dark blue Roma is probably the best looking car I've ever seen in person. Definitely my dream car.
I slowly became hooked to this channel after a few postings, I finally did that "subscribe button" youtubers can't stop talking about, and this happened after I repeatedly caught myself thinking -"yup, ya... yesss... yeah... u-huh, sure, definitely"
i love this..thnak you for the closure and info..god bless you all..the team
An exceptional story and review of Ferrari's finest design since early Pininfarina days! Cammisa is the very best when it comes to Italian cars. Just watch his review of the Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifoglio done in 2017. Terrific video here folks!
The first (and probably last) reviewer to smell a key. Bravo! Great history of Ferrari, and great description of GT vs sports car. I'll use it when talking to my non-car friends. Cheers!
Jason has an aura of multiple personalities when he speaks and doesn't need a cohost in the video to have two perspectives while reviewing.
Pronunciation game too strong!
Feels like he really cares about every named technology to preserve its originality.
Him and Jonny as co-hosts were just amazing though
Lest we forget the Hyphen dynamic, made famous during his ISSIMI stints
His Italian pronunciation is not great. Sort of spanglish. But his knowledge for cars is unparalleled.
@@the-boring-car-guy True, their dynamic was one of the things that kept bringing me back to MT, along with Randy Pobst. Can't remember the last time I checked out their content though. Great to see Jason back though! Definitely my favorite auto journalist.
@@santouchesantouche2873 was about to comment this. Thank you.
Excellent job - captivated my interest and attention, and I was sorry when it was over. Thank. you!👏🏻👍🏻
So much positive feedback! Keep uploading as much as you can
One of the best car reviews I've ever seen. Always do a first person driving thing at the end too... watched that twice
I nenver thought I'd enjoy so much a car 'review' that doesn't really talk about anything technical or even has a skidpad number. Damn this is quality.
One of the best reviews I've ever seen. Absolutely on par with the Clarkson-Hammond-May-era Top Gear, maybe even better.
Loved this ! Great history and well delivered!
Excellent insight, this story really was a revelation to me. Much thanks Jason, excellent video as always.
I love the Roma
We finally have a Ferrari in the California desert resorts and I'm seeing them more and more. Great video!
Best American presenter. And definitely top 5 world wide. IMHO. Also, I do not consider "presenter" as a slight. He presents! tells a compelling story in an entertaining way, letting his character and knowledge show through without it being the story. It's a fantastic skill.
Outstanding review, an almost documentary 👍🏼👏🏼
just the BEST auto presenter on planet earth,could listen to this man review any vehicle ,ANY VEHICLE
At 2:40 I see Greg Whitten in the Series 2 GTO that he sold - so cool a clip in motion!
Every time i watch these i think when i am actually gonna see you on my way back home.....same road....best roads in California (west Marin) that most people don't know about
It's good to see this guy doing reviews again. I haven't seen him since his split with MT & the other guy (Lieberman?).
This and the 812 Super fast are going to become highly collectable. Splendid cars