Tesla Model 3 vs BYD Seal vs VW ID7 vs Polestar 2 vs Ioniq 6 vs BMW i4 vs BMW i5 - best EV sedan?

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  • @ronbevins5380
    @ronbevins5380 9 місяців тому +23

    My 2019 has given not a single problem other than having to replace the 12 volt battery after 3.5 years. It gives me 300 miles of range and with the Tesla Supercharger network I have no fear of taking it on a long trip anywhere in the country and selected areas of Canada and Mexico. I love my Tesla.

  • @gregturner_awod
    @gregturner_awod 10 місяців тому +32

    Excellent comparison review. I own a Tesla Model 3 Long Range in Australia. I elected to buy one of the last Shanghai builds of the 2023 model, which were being sold as the Highland was commencing construction. Mine was built end of August 2023. Tesla software updates, Shanghai build quality, ride comfort and the Tesla charging network, which is growing rapidly in Australia, place Tesla ahead of many other companies. I considered Volvo, Kia and other EV’s before I made my choice. Range and charging facilities put the Tesla ahead of them all.

  • @coldfire30
    @coldfire30 10 місяців тому +23

    Wow.. exactly the pool of cars that are in my focus as my new daily driver in 2024 (except the I5, to big for my needs and too expensiv). If someone would have asked me for a comparison video, it would have been exactly this. Thank you soo much.

  • @onesoccer10310
    @onesoccer10310 10 місяців тому +38

    Got myself a BYD Seal AWD 3.8 last month. After cruising around for a month and hitting over 3000 km, I'm totally stoked about this car.
    But choosing the car black was a bit of a blunder. The paint job's not top-notch and needs a lot of waxing and care to keep it from looking dusty all the time.
    And the new car smell was super strong, almost made me sick at first. Took some serious airing out with the windows down, a bunch of Ozone and anti-odor sprays to finally get rid of it.
    If you're thinking about getting this for family road trips, it's a solid choice - it's got a 5-star EURO NCAP rating and fitting a baby car seat's a breeze thanks to the design of the back doors.

    • @82petergrossi
      @82petergrossi 10 місяців тому +5

      Good call on airing out the new smell this is highly recommend from many manufacturers of new cars.

    • @Fireblade-df2wj
      @Fireblade-df2wj 9 місяців тому +4

      I drove all of them and I'm Team BYD Seal too! Probably will get this soon

    • @Jeroenneman
      @Jeroenneman 9 місяців тому

      Perhaps you still smelt the sweat of modern Chinese slave labor inside the car.

    • @Ilias875
      @Ilias875 8 місяців тому +1

      I think it has to do with all the plastic seat instead of leather.

    • @jegerm6752
      @jegerm6752 Місяць тому

      I got the seal, and you’re absolutely correct about the new car smell. Super strong! I got sick on my first drive, which had never happened before. Took quite some time to air out, and some of it still lingers. I have tons of activated charcoal inside the car now 😅 baking soda didnt do anything. Hopefully I can get rid of the smell soon. It’s carcinogenic.

  • @woodypwx
    @woodypwx 10 місяців тому +57

    I was testing the new Model 3 yesterday and it's really improved. Sadly, no stalks is a deal breaker for me. Especially on smaller roundabouts its forcing you to actively looking for the right signal button. What a stupid idea.
    Looking forward to test VW ID.7 once it's available in December

    • @timogronroos4642
      @timogronroos4642 10 місяців тому +3

      Get S3XY buttons and make one button to signal right and use it when making exit from roundabout.

    • @deserialized
      @deserialized 10 місяців тому +3

      I agree. You are not supposed to have accept inferior system or have to purchase workarounds. Tesla will also make seat heating a subscribed feature in the future.

    • @p3tT4n1
      @p3tT4n1 10 місяців тому +8

      Had my Model 3 Highland for over 2 weeks now. No ISSUE whatsoever for me, and my city and daily routes are filled with round abouts.
      If you hold the steering weehl safly with your both hands, there is NO issue indicating - hey, its even easier! And this is only after some days using the car!!!

    • @autogefuehl
      @autogefuehl  10 місяців тому +2

      keep us updated!

    • @p3tT4n1
      @p3tT4n1 10 місяців тому +3

      @@timogronroos4642 replacing one button for another - are you serious?

  • @achaz_
    @achaz_ 10 місяців тому +6

    love this video ! everything is clear and very well presented

    • @autogefuehl
      @autogefuehl  10 місяців тому +1

      highly appreciated! Please recommend :-)

  • @Paul-ow9dd
    @Paul-ow9dd 10 місяців тому +40

    By far the best value in Australia of those in this review that are currently available down under at least for ordering, the Seal looks to be the best "bang for bucks", probably thanks to no local car industry in this country anymore to keep prices high. The Seal is available in 3 variants, Dynamic RWD (AUD~49k) Premium RWD - bigger battery and more power (AUD~59k) and Performance AWD (AUD~69k). Add 3-4k for on road/drive away price.
    Whilst I like the Model 3 update, it's just a bit too minimalist for me. Not providing a HUD that could be activated/deactivated for the minimalist junkies was a silly omission. I also don't see "no stalks" as a selling point.

    • @isaak4416
      @isaak4416 10 місяців тому +6

      I'm going for the premium trim on the Seal. As for the model 3, I really want to see how this car is going to be street legal down under. They are busting our balls about safe driving and the use of mobile phones and all the new model 3 is, it's actually a mobile phone on wheels!

    • @ralphzoombeenie2330
      @ralphzoombeenie2330 9 місяців тому

      Seal Performance drive away in Australia Eur 45.5 wins for me

    • @Jeroenneman
      @Jeroenneman 9 місяців тому +4

      The Seal is an instant no-go due to China's stance on Taiwan and human rights.

    • @ralphzoombeenie2330
      @ralphzoombeenie2330 9 місяців тому

      @@Jeroenneman Taiwan is recognised internationally as part of China and your knowledge of Chinese human rights is flawed. Will you reject US products because they have invaded and destroyednumerous countries and killed millions of Muslims and Asians?

    • @oendanlegtalheimurinn2054
      @oendanlegtalheimurinn2054 9 місяців тому +1

      @@Jeroenneman tesla is using Chinese battery tho

  • @ResmeN
    @ResmeN 9 місяців тому +3

    Very nice video. Seen a seal in person & fell in love. Placed an order for a rwd premium for aud 62k in Australia & can't wait. Don't like the exterior of the tesla, lack of stalks or minimalist interior.

  • @autogefuehl
    @autogefuehl  9 місяців тому +2

    Note that contrary to the first info and contrary to how they sold the vehicle to customers, the BYD Seal does come with animal skin leather. Customers bought the vehicle expecting animal free leatherette while BYD did not offer consistent information.

  • @joebrito2066
    @joebrito2066 7 місяців тому +2

    The model 3 looks better than the Model S. I wouldn’t trust the BYD, the Chinese aren’t there yet. Great video Thomas!

    • @bhendrikabel
      @bhendrikabel Місяць тому

      Model 3 looking better than Model S ? The model 3 is boring and i can almost see the drivers bellybutton. It’s hideous. BMW i4 is the best looking car here, best driver position and it has stalks!!

  • @Jbrm313
    @Jbrm313 10 місяців тому +13

    I’m torn between the model 3 highland LR and the BYD seal AWD.
    I’ve drove the model 3 highland and I really enjoyed it but I can’t help thinking I’m missing out not getting the BYD seal.
    The nearest BYD garage to me is a 800 mile round trip which worries me incase the car needs to go in for repairs for anything or for a service.
    Such a difficult decision for me

    • @p3tT4n1
      @p3tT4n1 10 місяців тому +1

      Yes, both are on top of their game in this EV-segment, Sedan class, indeed performing equally well in most aspects.
      Pretty sure you will be satisfied either way.
      My choice went to the Tesla Model 3 Highland LR, mostly because of preferred styling and more established brand around where I live (felt a bit safer).
      Good luck!

    • @mogensen84
      @mogensen84 10 місяців тому +13

      @Jbrm313 I can honestly say that the BYD Seal is better in terms of build quality and overall design (imo).
      We went and tested the Seal and the M3 Highland the same day, because we couldn't decide which one to get - We ended up keeping our reservation on the BYD Seal 👌
      It's such a nice car to drive and there is absolut 0 noise inside the cabin when driving on the highway. The M3 Highland is was pretty similar, but the lack of stalks, sensors and the "touch screen only koncept" really turned us off.
      I will say this tho, that the RWD version of the Seal didn't feel much different in terms of driving experience compared to the AWD .. Except for the extra boost you get from 0-100. So we went with the RWD version (a lot cheaper in insurrance).

    • @p3tT4n1
      @p3tT4n1 10 місяців тому +1

      @@mogensen84 Great to hear!
      "the lack of stalks, sensors and the "touch screen only koncept" really turned us off." Thats the sort of things that turns me on 🤣So simple, clean and progressive, IMO.

    • @Jbrm313
      @Jbrm313 10 місяців тому +1

      I’m going to give it a bit more thought over the next few days before I place my order and decide whether the risk of BYD being so far for me is worth it.

    • @Jbrm313
      @Jbrm313 10 місяців тому +1

      @@mogensen84did you notice on your test drive whether the BYD had over aggressive safety systems? I’ve seen a lot of reviewers say it’s quite intrusive and causes issues

  • @raymondhon4661
    @raymondhon4661 3 місяці тому

    Thank you for this comparison review. I am picking up my own Model 3 Performance tomorrow (6/17), trading in my made in Austin, Texas 2023 Model Y Dual Motor. I'm super excited to get my first Tesla Performance model. My previous Tesla was a 2019 Model 3 Dual Motor and I was super happy with it. Since then, I'd purchased a Model Y and recently, took delivery of a Cyberbeast after four and a half years of waiting. I am now officially a Tesla fanboy :D

  • @rodsevler
    @rodsevler 10 місяців тому +31

    The Tesla car seat material seems to be cheap comparing with the seal. Also, Tesla doesn't have 360 camera.

    • @Berretotube
      @Berretotube 10 місяців тому +8

      The Model 3 has beautiful materials. I’ve compared it with others. No 360 camera is fine.

    • @graffitijungle2072
      @graffitijungle2072 10 місяців тому +6

      Come on, this is 2023, 360 camera should be the most basic thing

    • @G82Watts
      @G82Watts 8 місяців тому

      It doesn't even have a HUD OR gauge clusters 😂😂 terrible car.. trust me it's so plain jane and basic inside

    • @nak8327
      @nak8327 8 місяців тому

      Tesla is pure junk. The party will be over soon. I'm sick of seeing them on the street in California.

    • @nak8327
      @nak8327 8 місяців тому +2

      You're making excellent points. The Tesla is pure garbage the competitors have 100's of years of combined experience over Tesla and will soon take back their territory!

  • @thomaseriksson3182
    @thomaseriksson3182 10 місяців тому +11

    BYD Seal RWD long range is my choice! But Polestar 2 has the best infotainment,drive cluster of all👍
    Thanks for this video!🌹🙏

  • @camilstoenescu
    @camilstoenescu 10 місяців тому +14

    Pricewise it's a toss-up between BYD Seal and the Model 3.

    • @Jbrm313
      @Jbrm313 10 місяців тому +2

      I’m making this exact decision at the moment. Tough choice!

    • @camilstoenescu
      @camilstoenescu 10 місяців тому +1

      @@Jbrm313 you have to drive them both

    • @AJ-no4kw
      @AJ-no4kw 10 місяців тому +5

      Yeah, we've just booked the seal, looks even better in person. Model 3 is still a great alternative, but the Seal seems to be better value for money and the build quality is very nice.

    • @jchrisssinshs5058
      @jchrisssinshs5058 10 місяців тому +2

      @@Jbrm313it will depend on your priority. If you are passionate about driving, and care more about performance or self driving, you should go with Tesla. The Seal is more of a city car compared to M3

    • @Jbrm313
      @Jbrm313 10 місяців тому

      @@jchrisssinshs5058 is the seal not better performance wise?

  • @nicktsa9051
    @nicktsa9051 10 місяців тому +6

    Hi amazing content my favourite is the BYD premium coming soon to Australia 🇦🇺

  • @a_void
    @a_void Місяць тому

    The best car reviews from Europe hands down. Savagegeese, Throttle House and Autogefühl are the my top 3 car channels

    • @autogefuehl
      @autogefuehl  Місяць тому

      Thank you so much! Please recommend / share our channel and our videos 🙏

  • @JJ-J
    @JJ-J 3 місяці тому +2

    It’s amazing that Tesla still wins these tests. They are so far ahead in the game. Sure, other brands are coming but it will take several years to overtake Tesla.

    • @atrip3900
      @atrip3900 2 місяці тому

      Yes, all EVs are always compared to Tesla. For some reason people are triggered by Tesla. 🤷🏻‍♂️😂

    • @masisoganesyan9048
      @masisoganesyan9048 Місяць тому

      Yeah, so you’re assuming Tesla is going to stay where they are in order for the other ones to catch up. Are you nuts? That’s not how business works. By the time they catch up to Tesla, Tesla will have far more superior batteries, and even better technology.

    • @JJ-J
      @JJ-J Місяць тому +1

      @@masisoganesyan9048 Comprehensive reading is a must…

  • @jimross623
    @jimross623 2 місяці тому +1

    I would store charging cables, if possible, in a Frunk/Froot. But, having spent all my previous life not storing anything under the bonnet, if it wasn’t there I wouldn’t miss it. If you have a charger at home with a cable always attached, what would use cables for?

    • @autogefuehl
      @autogefuehl  2 місяці тому +1

      Just for charging underway indeed

  • @seanf3255
    @seanf3255 9 місяців тому +2

    Hey Thomas great content as always, Just ordered the BYD Seal Performance, and can't wait to collect my new car in 3 weeks.
    What watch are you wearing buddy ?

  • @saedalbittar1841
    @saedalbittar1841 9 місяців тому +6

    I will go with ByD seal, looks the beat and it makes you feel you are in a regular car rather than electric one

  • @UgglemannenFTW
    @UgglemannenFTW 10 місяців тому +17

    The ID7 offers way too low performance for the pricetag imo. Tesla and BYD offers alot more.

    • @haukionkannel
      @haukionkannel 10 місяців тому +3

      When max speed you can drive is 120 km/h ID7 is too powerfull and fast for that!
      So it depends. ID7 would be much more powerfull than my current car. Has good and practical space for luckages. But if you need sport car… go for something else. But among these… it is the most practical vehicle.

    • @UgglemannenFTW
      @UgglemannenFTW 10 місяців тому +1

      @@haukionkannel for the price tag the HP is way too low compared to the competition, its overpriced.
      Make it more affordable if the performance isn't there. The interior is good but not justified combined with the performance.
      Sure it might be enough for most people but considering the price you should get more than they offer.

    • @nak8327
      @nak8327 8 місяців тому +1

      Tesla is pure JUNK. We're not street racers out here trying to show off. Ride quality wins and that's what you get with the id.7

    • @UgglemannenFTW
      @UgglemannenFTW 8 місяців тому

      @@nak8327 Still overpriced for what you get even if you prefer comfort.

    • @ricarmig
      @ricarmig 11 днів тому

      @@nak8327” Tesla is junk “ do you have something to support that, or are you just throwing things at the wall to see if they stick? Sales AND many worldwide questionnaires show objectively that Tesla owners are very happy and have very little (real) issues.
      About the “120 km/h”, power means faster acceleration and I want a fast car, specially if it’s near 2000 kg of weight. VW group and the French just don’t deliver it, giving ride comfort and a little better construction quality but worse from everything else. That said, the VW id 7 is a great car, the best electric VW built, eventually the best European electric car for comfort/price but…still too limited against Tesla and Co

  • @joemartino6976
    @joemartino6976 10 місяців тому +6

    Very happy with my BMW i4 over the past year. Averaging 3.7 miles/kwh. Crisp handling, balanced chassis, fun to drive. A year later, I would have given serious consideration to the i5, if only for the increased cabin space.

  • @PaulMeier-cu3ds
    @PaulMeier-cu3ds 10 місяців тому +2

    Great detail and fascinating comparison.
    As a publishing matter, I wonder whether there is a case, perhaps for members only, for a 30 minute summary of this with perhaps a forward look on where each marque is going.
    To turn to this episode, what is clear is that Tesla in about ten years has set the benchmark against which everyone else is tested. To stick with Tesla it is clear they have not sat on their hands and have made rapid improvements to their first Tesla 3. My take is that if you consider both price and features only BYD is really keeping up on both metrics. As it happens, I would not want a Tesla or BYD and in fact this car segment is not for me.
    My cousin who is about twenty years younger than me is just shelling out for a Tesla 3 to take his children to school (a 100 mile round trip 5 days a week, don’t ask). He wants an EV to save on the petrol and will install renewable charging at home so zero marginal cost per kwh. His other car is a Range Rover which guzzles gas so not ideal for a long school run. He rather likes the mobile phone on wheels UI, though I am not yet completely sold on it. I like the minimalism but miss the buttons.
    If I were to go for external looks, I thought the Ioniq 6 looked pretty good. If I were to go for internal cabin I liked BMW, but perhaps that is a sign that I am a bit older than my cousin. What is clear is that the premium marques are still way off the new price points and I doubt that is sustainable.

    • @autogefuehl
      @autogefuehl  10 місяців тому

      Thanks for the feedback !

  • @anthonysanchez2987
    @anthonysanchez2987 2 місяці тому +1

    I love hearing the way this guy talks

  • @darksantacruz
    @darksantacruz 10 місяців тому +21

    I am quite impressed by the ID7, for me it would be between the ID7 and the I5.

    • @nak8327
      @nak8327 8 місяців тому +1

      Excellent choice but take the ID.7!

  • @pauld61
    @pauld61 2 місяці тому

    I want the ev i5 ❤- oh well my 340i ❤will have to do until, I save up!! Excellent reviews as always Thomas 😁😁

  • @paulfinder2825
    @paulfinder2825 9 місяців тому +6

    Seal AWD is the best, no doubt.

  • @wiredspeaker5658
    @wiredspeaker5658 6 місяців тому

    Great review as always. This may seem strange but I enjoy falling asleep to your voice. Do you begin learning English in school at a very early age in Germany? Also what percentage of the time do you speak English throughout the day?

    • @autogefuehl
      @autogefuehl  6 місяців тому +1

      hehe you re welcome m8 ! Yes in School plus in Gaming :)
      I speak English a lot for the reviews and in gaming, but at home German

  • @gustavoantoniocoloradoherr156
    @gustavoantoniocoloradoherr156 3 місяці тому

    que lux vamos por el millon de vistas gracias .......

  • @ghp0518
    @ghp0518 7 місяців тому

    The BYD Seal looks like an upgraded Tesla Model 3 with all the things I wish Tesla would have:
    - instrument cluster
    - heads-up display
    - physical buttons for important functions
    - indicator stalk
    - door opening handles instead of buttons
    - gear selector (not touchscreen)
    - Apple Carplay/Android Auto support

  • @richarddsmarais3865
    @richarddsmarais3865 9 місяців тому

    In Canada, the 4th driving mode is actually SNOW it put the car in permanent 4wd with equal power front and back It also limit regen to level 1 and the power delivery is about equivalent to the ECO mode... BTW the car is great in the sow.... Cheers

  • @boontaoteo8636
    @boontaoteo8636 7 місяців тому

    What would be your preference between model 3 & seal

  • @jean-pierreclef9004
    @jean-pierreclef9004 7 місяців тому

    Great video ! My choice polestar 2 long range single motor because for me a car easy to drive if as a first EV with enough power, very range and nice technology package. The polestar is a sedan but with more distance to the ground which make it easier to drive on our European roads that are not flat as a formula 1 circuit. I don’t want to scratch my car at any reduce speed element

  • @cadriver2570
    @cadriver2570 11 днів тому

    i5 seemed a lot quieter in the video than the id7, and lacking the hatch it should really have a lot less road noise. Surprised id7 was found to be more luxurious.

  • @ZiFrenZie
    @ZiFrenZie 8 місяців тому +1

    Which frame do you use for your glasses? I want those glasses!

    • @autogefuehl
      @autogefuehl  8 місяців тому

      Monoqool they are called

  • @faisal-h9r
    @faisal-h9r 8 місяців тому

    Extremely helpful

  • @renej.hansen2721
    @renej.hansen2721 10 місяців тому +4

    Have an ID.7 on Order, hopefully delivery will be mid January.

    • @nak8327
      @nak8327 8 місяців тому

      That's the best vehicle on the list. Excellent choice! Tesla will fall.

  • @RobertLeBlancPhoto
    @RobertLeBlancPhoto 10 місяців тому +3

    I'm glad you brought up the poor steering response when accelerating in the BMW i4. They've released several firmware updates since the car's release but have yet to include steering adjustments with it.

  • @weizenobstmusli8232
    @weizenobstmusli8232 10 місяців тому +3

    ID7 for me, please.

  • @abdullahjafar8330
    @abdullahjafar8330 10 місяців тому

    يعطيك العافية ما قصرت ع التغطية .. للاسف محرك مازدا هذا تحديدا عليه ملاحظاا كثير في اليوتيوب فيه مهندس امريكي مشهور تكلم عليه واجد وخصوصا انه عملو القير بطريقة مختلفة الغوا محول العزم في القير (البطيخة) .. وعملوا ذراع كهربائي يحول العزم هو نفسه المحرك الكهربائي اللي يساعد المكينة في القومة عشان توفير الوقود وهو مسؤول عن نظام i-stop الخلاصة انه مازدا اضطرت تعمل تعقديات كبيييرة في المحركات بسبب فلسفة المحرك الكهربائي الكهربائي اللمساعد اللي ما فيه اي شركة في العالم عملت مثله بالشكل هذا اللي عملته مازدا .. اضافة الى ضيق مقعد الصف الثالث ما يناسب بالغين والشنطة ايضا مش ولابد (600 لتر مكعب فقط) .. وايضا فتحات التكييف مازالت عند الركبة هذي كلها سلبيات قاتلة للسيارات العائلية…
    في المقابل تويوتا جراند هايلاندر 2024 الجديدة قادمة بعد كم شهر انيقة وفخمة وعملية واعتمادية وواسعة جدا يجلسوا بالغين في الصف الثالث بكل اريحية والشنطة بحر .. وايضا الجديدة كليا ترافيرس 2024 صارت راقية وقوية جدا ونزلو منها فئة Z71 وايضا اوسع شنطة في فئة Mid-SUV مساحتها 2400 لتر مكعب عدة اضعاف المازدا (600 لتر فقط)

  • @harry-eto
    @harry-eto 9 місяців тому

    25:00 Keep a slight momentum on one side of the steering wheel, two fingers are enough.

  • @darkmatter6714
    @darkmatter6714 10 місяців тому +4

    For me there is one BIG reason why only the VW and the Polestar would be on my list - I have a dog!
    Of the two, it would have to be the VW. The Polestar’s cramped rear seats are just far too cramped.

    • @bungee7503
      @bungee7503 10 місяців тому

      Try the Ioniq 5; we can fit all 3 adult kids in.

    • @nak8327
      @nak8327 8 місяців тому +1

      Good choice but put the Polestar #2 because of the lack of experience in the automotive industry. Volkswagen has been around for decades and has the go to knowledge of how to produce a well refined vehicle with excellent performance!

  • @gustavoantoniocoloradoherr156
    @gustavoantoniocoloradoherr156 6 місяців тому

    que lux por el millon de vistas para todos gracias .......

  • @xaviart4727
    @xaviart4727 10 місяців тому +6

    BYD Seal. :) Tesla i have not even considered because service sucks, 4-6 weeks waiting and warranty, nothing is tesla´s fault! 4000 euros for repairing heating. Here in Finland. BYD Seal 50000 euros and Tesla Perf 60000 euros...

  • @deserialized
    @deserialized 10 місяців тому +15

    Order on both BYD Seal AWD and Tesla M3 AWD. Most likely will take the Seal. Volkswagen have never been an interesting brand for me. Ioniq looks strange :) Polestar is nice but to expensive for what you get - waiting for Polestar 4. BMW not that interesting and feels very old and legacy product for me.

    • @Kurre.
      @Kurre. 10 місяців тому

      Polestar 4 entered production today

    • @deserialized
      @deserialized 10 місяців тому +1

      @@Kurre. Yes, I guess we have to wait at least to summer 2024 to receive it in Europe. Best guess autumn 2024. We will see how it compares to whatever car I might have then 😊

    • @Berretotube
      @Berretotube 10 місяців тому +2

      Thing for me is that the Model 3 is the full package. Safe. Quiet. Stylish. Amazing stereo. Efficient. Phenomenal tech/software. Incredible App. Great battery management and safety. And, the after sales support from Tesla has been superb for us. It’s the most remarkable car we’ve ever owned.

  • @yome1562
    @yome1562 9 місяців тому

    Love the Seal. But the lack of "autopilot" keep me in the fence and considering other Chinese brands such as Xpeng or Avatr

  • @Hatsikidee02
    @Hatsikidee02 10 місяців тому +19

    Don't get why the no stalks is allowed in the EU.

    • @Berretotube
      @Berretotube 10 місяців тому +2

      Because it’s even easier - just use a thumb.

    • @majordelays4909
      @majordelays4909 10 місяців тому

      @@Berretotube I imagine adapted mobility cars can cope with stalks, but no longer can.

    • @TheVorst
      @TheVorst 4 місяці тому +1

      I live in the EU, I have now the Model 3 2024 for about 2 months, with tons of roundabouts. It is hard for me to go back to stalks. I drove last week with a Polestar and I was already so adjusted, that my new muscle memory had a hard time to deal with roundabouts and left and right turns with the Polestar.

  • @rlc2978
    @rlc2978 10 місяців тому

    Love the Alpina Startimer!

  • @diunis1
    @diunis1 9 місяців тому +1

    My wish was BMW I4 but was too expensive so I bought Tesla Y

  • @sunrisejak2709
    @sunrisejak2709 10 місяців тому +4

    The feature of a front storage space "frunk" has proven invaluable for me. My wife can buy Durian, or take home some doggie bag leftovers from our favorite Indian restaurant or I can carry my sweaty smelly workout clothes, or a small can of gas for my mower all in an isolated space completely separate from the occupant cabin. I never thought this would be such a nice area to put those items. Love it.

    • @bungee7503
      @bungee7503 10 місяців тому

      Tsk! You didn’t get an electric mower? We did, to go with the Ioniq 5.

    • @sunrisejak2709
      @sunrisejak2709 10 місяців тому +1

      @@bungee7503 I would love to have an electric mower. But where I live the sellers didn't get the memo yet and thus none are (at the moment) available for sale. So until then I unfortunately use my smelly old Cub Cadet to cut my 2 acres. My ears ring for days after cutting the grass! 🤣

    • @bungee7503
      @bungee7503 10 місяців тому

      @@sunrisejak2709 Ah, my wife cuts the lawn (sometimes) just for exercise. Mind you, it’s smaller than yours.

    • @sunrisejak2709
      @sunrisejak2709 10 місяців тому

      @@bungee7503 Whats your secret? My wife avoids that chore like the plague! But to be fair riding a small ride-on mower at a whopping 5 mph is still satisfying somehow. 😊

  • @pindot787
    @pindot787 9 місяців тому +2

    I know this might be a matter of preferances, but Tesla UI is so far ahead of the competition, its not even funny, their ecosystem also the best on the market right now.

    • @G82Watts
      @G82Watts 8 місяців тому

      How is it ahead? I don't see think so.

    • @pindot787
      @pindot787 7 місяців тому +1

      @@G82Watts automatically calculated your battery percentage upon arriving in supercharger AND simultaneusly precondition your battery to get maximum charging speed is a game changer.
      not to mention the EASIEST supercharging experience, literally just plug and play without any hassle.

    • @G82Watts
      @G82Watts 7 місяців тому

      @@pindot787 tesla has no HUD, no 360 cam, no ambient lighting, no apple car play, no ventalited seats, self driving and auto park mode rated lower then BMWs.. list goes on. Also tesla only gets 75% of its stated range per independent testing by carwow and Edmunds Car reviews. Bmw 88%.. BMW has more/better tech.

    • @pindot787
      @pindot787 7 місяців тому

      @@G82Watts Depend on the tesla, model S and X has a HUD, 2024 tesla vision could made a 3D of 360 projection environment around the car. all newer model 2024 has ventilated seat, Tesla is the only self driving that could took you from highway into city road.
      Tesla is lighter and more efficient than any BMW EV.
      BMW screen is waaayyy laggier than tesla.

    • @G82Watts
      @G82Watts 7 місяців тому

      @@pindot787 u just wrote pretty much all false news. BMW user AI has never once by any reviewer said to be leggy. I have driven the new bmw m3 and m4 and it didn't even lag a little bit. So that's false. Yes tesla self driving can do self driving around town aswell but let me ask u this. Who would buy a brand like bmw or porsche etc.. spend 60k+ on a car and not wanna drive it around town.. the whole point of these brands is how engaging and fun they are too drive. Major majority of buyers would only want too use self driving on long tideous drives on the highway. Which bmw and other brands do better highway self driving then tesla. Refer to " Edmunds Car reviews self driving bmw vs tesla vs audi vs Cadillac. Tesla got last place. Also tesla makes u keep ur hands by the wheel and be looking directly ahead at all times.. unlike other brands which are completely hands free and let u look down at ur phone and do whatever. So if u have to do all that in a tesla u might as well just be driving! Lmao.
      2. None of teslas cars have a HUD. The new model 3nhighland finally got ambient lighting but still no HUD, stalks, gauge cluster screen,360 cam,etc... refer to "rysmons auto park tesla vs bmw vs audi" where tesla got last place in auto Parking for parallel spots. Tesla is suppose to be a tech car yet luxury brands have better tech 🤣🤣

  • @p3tT4n1
    @p3tT4n1 10 місяців тому +6

    Had my Model 3 Highland for over 2 weeks now. No ISSUE whatsoever for me without stalks, and my city and daily routes are filled with roundabouts.
    If you hold the steering wheel safely with your both hands, there is NO issue indicating - hey, its even easier! And this is only after some days using the car!!!
    The car is not perfect, but overall, in this segment, one of the very best!

    • @autogefuehl
      @autogefuehl  10 місяців тому

      thanks for the feedback!

    • @Berretotube
      @Berretotube 10 місяців тому +1

      ❤❤❤❤❤

    • @cafl9844
      @cafl9844 10 місяців тому +1

      That's bull !
      It's not easier and can't be used intuitively in a tight roundabout!
      You have to look away from the road to find the right button, so how is that easier than never having to look away from the road to indicate if you have steering stalks ?
      This is why Tesla drivers are hated so much, you just defend every BS Musk does, no matter if it makes sense or not !
      If Musk would suggest it's better having 3 wheels instead of 4 you would even defend that !

  • @oliveryb
    @oliveryb 10 місяців тому +4

    Byd seal

  • @Vikingdescendent
    @Vikingdescendent 7 місяців тому

    Excellent, next level video! Nice work!

  • @cuoressportivo
    @cuoressportivo 10 місяців тому

    I know it’s not a similar class to these cars but where do you think the iX3 fits? Do you guys have plans to make an LCI iX3 review?

    • @autogefuehl
      @autogefuehl  10 місяців тому

      Hey! Maybe this older vid helps? ua-cam.com/video/pmuNuSBZ6cc/v-deo.htmlsi=wDZ_4AgWV3zyHkKz

    • @autogefuehl
      @autogefuehl  10 місяців тому

      Lets see what we can do

    • @autogefuehl
      @autogefuehl  10 місяців тому

      X3 Facelift: ua-cam.com/video/XcP3W1XsZGY/v-deo.htmlsi=HXt2aAC4JFBzyXD_

  • @agusedyanto3324
    @agusedyanto3324 7 місяців тому

    I think the final thing to compare is in value for money!

  • @alanizsak
    @alanizsak 10 місяців тому +3

    Exactly how are synthetic leather interiors better the environment? Honest question. Simply would like to know...

    • @unowen-nh9ov
      @unowen-nh9ov 10 місяців тому +2

      Animal free, Thomas big proponent.

    • @autogefuehl
      @autogefuehl  10 місяців тому +8

      Thank you very much for your interest in this topic. I also bought cars with animal skin leather seats before I did my research and got to know the industry. The most important thing is: With today's modern materials, you have nothing to lose, just to gain. You achieve the same kind of luxury and comfort or even better while having the same or better durability with less impact on humans, animals and the environment.
      You can use fabric/cloth, microfibre or leatherette. The classic approach is using oil/plastic as source material. Overall, a vehicle contains about 300 kg plastic. A car seat needs about 5 kg plastic. So the overall plastic share for the seats is very low and it is at this moment the most efficient way to produce a car seat. A couple of litres of fuel equals a car seat basically. So if you want to save oil/plastic, rather look at consumption for energy, fuel and heating and to other car parts than the seat. Note that animal skin leather also always contains a plastic coating for durability. However, long-term we should of course find raw oil alternatives. So going further, seats can be made from recyclables (e.g. from PET-bottles or old fishing nets) or even increased share of plant-based materials (like pine oil, canola oil or start-up materials like Pinatex from pineapple leaves or Desertex from cactus fibre or the mixed-plant-based Mirum, so be seen at ua-cam.com/video/S1aNZeoatmE/v-deo.html). On a calculation base, by ditching animal skin leather from car interiors, the amount of emissions (CO2e) is reduced by 85 (!) % (www.press.bmwgroup.com/africa-dom-easteurope/article/detail/T0403389EN/on-the-market-from-2023:-bmw-and-mini-models-with-vegan-interiors?language=en) - and that is a very conservative calculation. So it is at this moment the most important thing you can do to make car interiors more sustainable.
      A good example for high-end luxury with ventilated animal free seats is the BMW X7 with Sensafin: ua-cam.com/video/1pRNkW9nrrw/v-deo.html
      And the Kia EV9 with plant-based oil share: ua-cam.com/video/6vXePQi_MAk/v-deo.html
      New leatherette materials can be superior in every aspect, even for cleaning: ua-cam.com/video/u94YXJ72UTA/v-deo.html
      More and more natural materials are rising: ua-cam.com/video/nRSsXEnwHDo/v-deo.html
      Also check out what the animal skin leather industry tried to with our channel: ua-cam.com/video/nP_CvLlaFlI/v-deo.html
      For seeing how the animals are being treated and transported in the global leather industry, watch this footage: ua-cam.com/video/tkjCAmq1_8E/v-deo.html
      Note that the footage is genuine and was recorded by a highly decorated investigative journalist in Germany I know myself personally.
      In a high animal skin grade, the animals are specifically raised for this matter. However even if meat is the "first" misuse case, the hide remains a profitable body part. That means: If manufacturers put animal leather in a car and you demand it as a customer, you give your money to an industry that earns money by oppressing humans, animals and harms the environment, you make them more profitable. Alternatively, you could support industries with your wallet which try to improve the sustainability of materials. Also, if you turn the argument around to "meat is the waste of the leather industry" you realize that it doesn't make sense (and is ethically doubtful) to discuss the primary use of individual body parts of mammals. Mind experiment: You are getting slain down on the street; would it matter to you if it was for your smartphone or for your purse?
      We cannot change what we have bought in the past, but with more information and compassion we can change how we decide in the future.

    • @alanizsak
      @alanizsak 10 місяців тому +2

      @@autogefuehl I love your reviews Thomas! Hands down the best automobile content on UA-cam.
      I have a GLK 350 with an "animal free" leather interior and I honestly can't tell the difference aside from some minor delamination on high wear areas.
      The argument has always been cruelty free vs synthetics which rely on the oil/chemical industry, although we see an increase in quality fabrics made from recycled materials these days...
      Thank you for taking the time to respond to me directly. You made my day! 🙂

    • @autogefuehl
      @autogefuehl  10 місяців тому +1

      thank you very much! GLK is a nice one, I really loved that one

    • @zcat1006
      @zcat1006 10 місяців тому +2

      Thomas, I have not consumed meat since 1981. Your perspective on the respect of other mammals is a very enlightened awareness that we both share. Each day I encounter other humans who have a dense sense of the slaughtering of animals. They act like I am the strange one as they fill their blank minds and greedy bellies with flesh from a form similar to theirs. Almost canibal-like from my view. Thanks for trying to enlighten and sharpening the dull ones! @@autogefuehl

  • @gregmorgan8350
    @gregmorgan8350 10 місяців тому +4

    In the market for one of these. Tesla seems to have addressed issues with quality and refinement, but not lack of rear headroom or frustrating door handles, and unnecessarily introduced new stupidities for no reason. Stalks are completely intuitive way of managing frequent functions and getting rid of them is crazy. And automatic forward/reverse gear selection is just bs, even if it did work perfectly. So I know it’s efficient, and now more refined, but it’s not for me. Still love the style Polestar, but maybe ID7 is best combo or style, quality, efficiency and space

    • @michlblacksmith
      @michlblacksmith 10 місяців тому

      I'm driving the Highland for a week now and I don't get the fuzz about setting the indicator, it really is not a big deal and easy to use. I rather have a problem with the headlight button since it takes more time to reach it. I agree with the missing parking sensors and better travel assist in the ID7 (e.g. construction sites) and the IQ Light is awesome. But I'm not be willing to spare an additional 20.000 Euros for those features, since I have to work for the money.

    • @gregmorgan8350
      @gregmorgan8350 10 місяців тому +1

      I’ve sure you’ve made a good decision for your situation. No doubt the Tesla is an excellent car if it’s what suits your requirements. I’ve driven Tesla, Polestar and i5 - all good in different ways. Want to try ID7 before making decision because I suspect it might be the best for my situation. Hatchback is a huge advantage for me as I often have a bike in the boot. The great news is that there is real choice of excellent EVs emerging and something to suit different preferences

    • @michlblacksmith
      @michlblacksmith 10 місяців тому

      @@gregmorgan8350 Sure, all good cars. The thing is, subsidies in many countries are running out, and I wanted to get a car now since Volvo, VW,... all have delivery times of half a year or more.

    • @nak8327
      @nak8327 8 місяців тому +2

      Good choice with the id.7. Tesla is a very boring company controlled by Elon Musk who isn't doing anything interesting here in the USA. He just watches his net worth and flexes his ego on X. Volkswagen has been around for decades and has way more information and technical support then Tesla will ever have. The ride quality alone is enough to make the right choice.

  • @cezao93
    @cezao93 10 місяців тому +4

    BYD without thinking.

  • @billywakwabi4758
    @billywakwabi4758 8 місяців тому +3

    BYD Seal does it for me. LFP battery chemistry and level of technology is at it's best.

  • @borky1987
    @borky1987 5 місяців тому +1

    No stalks on the Tesla is probably the worst idea in automotive history 🥴

  • @phillyphil1513
    @phillyphil1513 10 місяців тому

    1:24:05 - "I LOVE GOOOOLLLD...!!!" (best Mike Myers/Dutch/Goldmember voice)

  • @G-Rated
    @G-Rated 9 місяців тому +1

    UA-cam literally always picks this guys videos and when I wake up it’s always a video from this channel that’s playing. What is going on?

  • @robertodelpino4989
    @robertodelpino4989 3 місяці тому

    To be honest the nicest car by far is the BYD seal......by far

  • @ronbevins5380
    @ronbevins5380 9 місяців тому

    Teslas make better EVs than any automobile manufacturer in the world in my opinion. I have had my 2019 Tesla Model 3 for 4.5 years.

  • @birdbranch
    @birdbranch 3 місяці тому

    I have the Highland. It take a few weeks then its no peoblem without stalks. But its a taste. Now with EU ban on Chinese cars. Well that is a different thing. We will love to tell.

  •  8 місяців тому

    You get more torque instead of power cause emotors produce torque from the start, power builds up with rpm, or speed

  • @Berretotube
    @Berretotube 10 місяців тому +5

    The new Model 3 is extraordinary. Smooth. Quiet. Efficient. Safe. Amazing stereo. Beautifully appointed. An already brilliant and beautiful EV just got even better ❤❤❤

    • @G82Watts
      @G82Watts 8 місяців тому +2

      Model 3 looks like a basic ass car. Looks like a mall cop car 😂 its very ugly. Not sleek or aggresive in anyway. Looks like an AI generated car so dull and boring inside and out

    • @nak8327
      @nak8327 8 місяців тому +1

      TESLA IS PURE GARBAGE

    • @darksantacruz
      @darksantacruz 8 місяців тому +1

      Beautiful ev? 😂😂😂

    • @Evokyr
      @Evokyr 7 місяців тому

      Check the new ludicrous version (performance variant) that will be annouced quite soon, it already showed different bumpers and overal more sportier styling. I think it's a great looking car, even tho it's quite bland and empty.

  • @incognito8477
    @incognito8477 8 місяців тому +1

    Tesla 3 highland is the best period

  • @MrSinnerBOFH
    @MrSinnerBOFH 10 місяців тому

    I have a problem with the comparison: Using the BMW M versions is a mistake on this kind of comparission. The more reasonable eDrive40 version of BMW i4 is a much comfortable, more "BMW feel" when driving, much more efficient, better range, ... Give it a try.

    • @autogefuehl
      @autogefuehl  10 місяців тому +1

      Was not available for testing at that point, u re right the rwd is more price comparable

    • @MrSinnerBOFH
      @MrSinnerBOFH 10 місяців тому

      @@autogefuehl ah, that explains it! Hope you can show us your opinion on the eDrive40 soon. Thank you for all the wonderful car test videos

  • @SuranjitSingh-m1v
    @SuranjitSingh-m1v 9 місяців тому

    This car not have gear shift how to change gear bro

  • @AnkurDeka-ml8ho
    @AnkurDeka-ml8ho 9 місяців тому

    I ve drove model 3 highland

  • @torpemonguz
    @torpemonguz 4 місяці тому

    Why compair lfp fast charging to nmc?
    Why not calculate the real usage of nmc in daily cycle.. that is just 60% of nmc capacity...
    You are not understand the batteries and usage.. this is very basic info about this technology..

  • @zcat1006
    @zcat1006 10 місяців тому +1

    I love Thomas's opinion on the artificial sound and the concept of the "Mother's" heartbeat relating to a more guttural sound. Spaceship sounds are ok, but more options are better.

  • @stickygeiden
    @stickygeiden 10 місяців тому +5

    It's crazy that i will NOT buy a model 3 just because of the lacks of parking sensors. It's just a too big deal breaker. The front bonnet of the model 3 in particulary long, you can't see sh*t. And where I live, it's impossible to not bump something with a car like this.

    • @rlc2978
      @rlc2978 10 місяців тому +2

      Skip forward 10 years. Will you comment; It's crazy that I will NOT buy a particular car because I actually have to drive it..?

    • @nak8327
      @nak8327 8 місяців тому

      Tesla is pure junk anyways. It's a virus in California. Go for the ID.7 from a real automotive company who's been around for decades.

  • @inspectorseb5286
    @inspectorseb5286 10 місяців тому +2

    No Mercedes EQE?

    • @lukabosnjak3829
      @lukabosnjak3829 10 місяців тому +2

      Expensive and toyish

    • @inspectorseb5286
      @inspectorseb5286 10 місяців тому +2

      @@lukabosnjak3829 for me the EQE 350 4matic SE is cheaper per month than model 3 LR, i4 and i5, that’s why I wondered why it was not included in the comparison. (Might be cheaper than ID7 also but I haven’t seen the leasing prices on that yet). I have a model 3 LR today but keeping the options open when my lease ends in a few months. Why is EQE toyish? I haven’t tested it yet but from the reviews I’ve seen it seems very comfortable, and decent range due to the big battery. Do you own one?

    • @autogefuehl
      @autogefuehl  10 місяців тому +3

      didnt fit anymore, had to reduce the amount of cars at some point :-)
      We have it here, ofc it is the direct competitor to the BMW i5 ua-cam.com/video/_v1xHubJ-Xc/v-deo.html

    • @autogefuehl
      @autogefuehl  10 місяців тому +2

      You are right, with leasing rates, it might look very different than with list prices!

    • @rmg9544
      @rmg9544 10 місяців тому

      @@autogefuehl could take out i4 or i5 and included EQE. It's a very competitive car in terms of range and comfort. Looks are subjective, I like but.

  • @AKA001
    @AKA001 10 місяців тому

    5:08 why?

  • @darwinsutanto
    @darwinsutanto 7 місяців тому

    In my country, Seal is almost half the price of Model 3. No brainer.

  • @paulcallahan7672
    @paulcallahan7672 2 місяці тому

    People who buy a Tesla car , .. are a very" smart " ,.. this is the kind of experience they deserve

  • @LitHomie-yw3qj
    @LitHomie-yw3qj 7 місяців тому +1

    Sorry team byd wins here hands down

  • @kordaxmint533
    @kordaxmint533 10 місяців тому +5

    I can't believe Chinese cars now put a real competition to European cars lol
    What a time to live...

    • @hermesliteratus882
      @hermesliteratus882 10 місяців тому +3

      In the world of EVs, Chinese companies such as BYD definitely give European legacy auto makers a run for their money. And let's not forget BYD is currently the second largest EV battery manufacturer in the world, only next to CATL, which is also a Chinese company.

    • @nak8327
      @nak8327 8 місяців тому +2

      The Chinese will never take the cake. The ID.7 is the clear choice.

  • @boandersen3061
    @boandersen3061 10 місяців тому +1

    Crazy that you would consider ID7, it may have improved from a VW perspective, but it still falls way behind on the most important parameters, slow charging 175kw max, it´s crazy heavy, 2,25T when weighed IRL, options that needed adding, to compare to BYD/TESLA is another €6K, and the software, yes better, but still terrible.and VW quality is also terrible.

    • @autogefuehl
      @autogefuehl  10 місяців тому +2

      Defo aspects, yeah. Ride was very good though, first leasing prices however are disappointing expensive indeed!

    • @boandersen3061
      @boandersen3061 10 місяців тому +1

      In Denmark the price with 2 options, making it comparable is €72K, A tesla model 3 is €46K, BYD Seal is €47K just not in same category@@autogefuehl

    • @autogefuehl
      @autogefuehl  10 місяців тому +1

      VW might do better leasing rates later. But at this moment they re pretty crazy indeed

    • @nak8327
      @nak8327 8 місяців тому

      Tesla is pure garbage.

    • @nak8327
      @nak8327 8 місяців тому

      Tesla is pure garbage are you simply one of those people that needs to fit in and have what everyone else has????

  • @mounishbalaji
    @mounishbalaji 10 місяців тому

    Its bigger than a movie dude😅

  • @AWIraq
    @AWIraq 10 місяців тому +3

    ok . give me the i5 dude

  • @franktongzi1430
    @franktongzi1430 4 місяці тому

    Polestar is luxary car.

  • @richarddsmarais3865
    @richarddsmarais3865 9 місяців тому

    sorry, that was for the IONIC6...

  • @1Cypher
    @1Cypher 9 місяців тому

    Best interior was Ioniq's... best exterior Bmw, Best engineering Tesla

  • @nak8327
    @nak8327 8 місяців тому +1

    There all trash except the ID.7 which also looks the best. BMW would be the next best option. Tesla absolutely being hands down the worst.

  • @abrakadabra190
    @abrakadabra190 7 місяців тому

    I have purchased seal but features are less compared to Tesla

  • @eliopapadia2537
    @eliopapadia2537 10 місяців тому +1

    New Tesla with no stalks for the indicators is tailor made for us Italian drivers : we never use indicators 😂

    • @autogefuehl
      @autogefuehl  10 місяців тому +1

      hehe =)

    • @nak8327
      @nak8327 8 місяців тому +1

      Your mistake is you bought a tesla very bad decision. The ID.7 is the clear winner here and actually looks like a real car. BMW comes in #2 then Polestar.

  • @siamparagon9250
    @siamparagon9250 10 місяців тому

    Next time talk about the financials. Who makes money with every cars, and who does not.

  • @tooltalk
    @tooltalk 10 місяців тому +1

    @38:38 LOL

  • @KentBuchla
    @KentBuchla 10 місяців тому +3

    I do wish that all car reviewers would find a larger vocabulary and stop using the word “premium” when “quality” or “high quality” would be accurate. The word “premium” has lost all meaning and value. This has happened to many words since the widespread use of social media.

    • @unowen-nh9ov
      @unowen-nh9ov 10 місяців тому

      BMW have been describing themselves as premium since last century, when German cars were called spartan, their notion of luxury was so different from U.S., it was about engineering.

  • @gustavoantoniocoloradoherr156
    @gustavoantoniocoloradoherr156 10 місяців тому

    que lux por las vistas a mis canciones gracias ......

  • @charlesduran8700
    @charlesduran8700 10 місяців тому +2

    Still not sold on electric cars

    • @haukionkannel
      @haukionkannel 10 місяців тому

      EV needs… home charger, and relative big starting investement. For me gasolin at 2.50 euros/l would be just fine. When it gets to 3.50 euros or more… imhave to think again. No home charger (living in the flatj, expensive commercial chargin stations… and 20000 euros for a car would be a lot!
      But if you. An affort the starting price and have home charging. You will save a lot of money in longer run! So it really depends…

  • @kelvinteo6104
    @kelvinteo6104 6 місяців тому

    I bought Seal and not M3. When u need to open the glove box using the screen this is how tesla had gone way too far with technology.

  • @SirWilliamOlsen
    @SirWilliamOlsen 3 місяці тому

    I buy ID 7

  • @AKA001
    @AKA001 10 місяців тому

    Anyone complaining about missing stalks clearly doesn't understand automation. My current M3 auto indicates and switches off when necessary without touching the stalk.

    • @haukionkannel
      @haukionkannel 10 місяців тому +1

      If it turns on idicator when you start turning… it is badly late… or does the car know where you are going and put indicator on 3s to 5s before you make the turn?

  • @rw80
    @rw80 10 місяців тому

    I don’t agree with the lease price argument. I ordered a Tesla 3 because it was cheaper to lease than a Id.3.

    • @nak8327
      @nak8327 8 місяців тому

      Bad decision. TESLA IS PURE GARBAGE LOW CLASS VEHICLE.