@@CarloGrams sounds like you’re salty that you wasted 3 and a half grand on a vr-iphone when you couldve gotten a quest 3, a very high end pc, and all the accessories you need for it, for the same price. oh and you also get the freedom to do what you want with what you paid for instead of being trapped in the apple ecosystem.
@@9_1.1 My man, I’m in production. I literally am required to use all kinds of platforms, from PC to Mac. You’re living in a reality where someone can’t have products from different brands. I enjoy my quest 3 for what it is. A gaming machine. And it hooks up to my rig when it’s time for SkyRim or No Mans Sky. Can I produce media for other entities using that setup? Yes. I can, and I have tried, and unless I’m willing to shell out another $8500 just for a Varjo headset to tether to my rig instead, it’s just an absolute abysmal experience using the Quest 3 to monitor a DAW or editing software where visual fidelity and color-accuracy are paramount. The AVP offers the same spec requirements as that Varjo headset at over half the cost. That’s the only reason why I ended up with one, so I can run productions like Tony Stark. Does this mean I stopped playing my Quest? No. You don’t need to prostrate your fealty to some company, just get what you like to use and what makes sense for what you’re trying to accomplish. We get it, the Vision Pro isn’t for you. That doesn’t mean you need to mutate into some Zuck-Cuck over it.
Yeah...the price definitely needs work, but I think it's meant to be a relatively exclusive device currently and they're using the premiums to cover development costs. What the Quest does is cool, and it's definitely a capable headset, but unless the software stack changed dramatically from 2 to 3 then I don't think they're anywhere close to parity with Apple.
$3500 was the rough cost of my 486 pentium 2 processor with 12 MB of RAM in the late 80’s. People are stupid thinking bleeding edge technology should cost the same as a smartphone or videogame console
@@CarloGramsI wouldn't consider it bleeding edge technology when there are other devices that are close enough for less than a quarter of the price. There is nothing about AVP that should make it cost 4k. Unless you are very wealthy you are an absolute moron for buying something that adds minimal convenience to your life, is uncomfortable to wear, and only lasts 2 hours before you have to charge it.
@@CarloGramswhats stupid is you thinking a 3.5k device is better than the 500$ device, not a 1k device not 2k but 500, 😂 i bet you also bought the airpod max,
Watching this video on my quest 3 512gb inside a photo realistic enviornment of Bryce canyon. youtube is about 150 inches wide in front of me smiling because i paid 650 not 3500. time to play some Red Matter.
@BooredAtWork Finally, an honest reviewer, who is not a greedy ios-sheep who are competing to $üç-áp deeper into the half-chewed Apple. I feel like that you are far more practical and financially responsible than MKBHD. People pay 3,5k for an excellent vr screen which doesn't have (data) ports, controllers and you will be forced to use only the ios ecosystem, which is smooth but constantly overpriced and the customers are constantly forced to upgrade the MacBooks and iPhones due to older ios devices are blocked working. Okay, Windows and Android are also kind of rivals, but they learned to work together. More freedom less chains. Apple is like a cult, like Scientology: they try to chain you to their system and force you to pay more and more ... while trying to evade taxes every possible way and selling you overpriced products and denying warranty repairs and 3rd party repairs, too. If you, the reader, are rich, then continue supporting the greedy rich billionaire company. Their smooth and visually pretty ux is just a carrot for us, the donkeys. If you are not that rich or you don't like to spend so much money, then keep away from Apple stuff.
i drop by for the shirt, the review is cool though, my Quest 2 with dual monitors does most of those features with less clarity. i say wait for 2025 unless you have plenty of cash to play with. Badass shirt....Magneto version?
I think one thing I don't see alot in some of these reviews is the ecosystem....as someone that doesn't have any Apple products I would need to spend $3500 on a Vision pro....I need an iphone if I want to use Facetime/Messaging on there, I need a Macbook if I want to take advantage of their "look at your screen feature". That is like 10k or something. not including all the services. That is the part I just don't like about Apple they just try to wall you in so much. This thing looks freaking awesome and hope Quest can make something to compete with some of this stuff. I know quest 3 can already do alot of this and before Vision pro came out there were people going to coffee shops in the Quest. But unless you are already in the Apple ecosystem it just doesn't make real sense to get one of these.
Yeah, but I bet you are not their target audience for this device. However hopefully it brings more light to VR\AR devices and we get something like this but for android\windows ecosystem, so you can choose
americans (in this case the company because its primary target audience is americans) assume everyone uses Apple, because a big part of their population uses Apple products. but for the rest of the world its not like that, so I agree with you
The quest 3 is the better headset in my opinion, but the vision pro will help push the VR/XR industry forward and has the potential to greatly improve with software updates and more apps, we'll see what apple comes out with in the coming months.
@@fdwr I like not having controllers. To play complex games well on the Quest you need to pair a controller anyways. To play simple games, you could use your hand but the Quest tracking is so bad that they don't work well. If those games were ported to the AVP with the better hand tracking, theoretically, they would be better. Time will tell.
As someone interested in developing apps and exploring the spatial computing thing, I bought the Quest 3 and I'm very happy with it. I'm not an Apple hater, but I just think that you don't gain that much from the Vision Pro compared to Quest 3 right now. The big thing here is the mixed reality experience, the spatial computing thing, and both deliver that. I'll wait the industry evolve before spending a lot of money on a device like this.
@@weirdbutcool78 I really like it. I like to lay on my bed and watch a movie in full screen with black environment, it's really immersive and the screen is big, curved and has great resolution.
For me when it comes to comparing and "What does this headset bring to the table". The vision has to bring 7 times more to the table. 7 times the price means for me it simply has to bring 7 times more. Most videos (not this one). People keep talking about the vision like it's the only VR headset. They come out with things like "You can have a virtual desktop! You can watch TV on it!". Yeah you can do all that on the quest 3 for 7 times cheaper. So for me until vision is doing a LOT more for it's price tag. I just think the quest 3 is worth it more.
It's worse than that, considering you can't even access many apps without a compatible Apple computer to use as a base. Quest 3 might have it's own issues but at least Zuck keeps it to a self-contained product.
@@lordnikon4050 I mean my biggest issue is too many videos like i said. Keep acting like it's the only VR headset. Saying "look at all these things it can do" while listing all the things the quest 3 can also do. You got to list things the quest 3 CAN'T do in comparison.
It’s not close to the same experience though. It comes down to whether you want to use something or not. Your 7 times comparison is silly since it’s just subjective bs. How are you going to measure whether something is 7 of 6.5 times something. Again, I would rather pay more for something I will actually use vs less for something I wouldn’t want to use and just is going to go in the closet. I have no desire to be jumping around in my living room playing a silly game. I want something I can actually get work done and consume content on.
@@lordnikon4050 You also need to look from the other perspective: I can't access my iOS and macOS apps on the quest. It's browser doesn't have my safari tabs, favorites and passwords, etc.. Also I can't work on my mac with the quest with a single click
Great comparison from someone with VR experience! There are way too much "first time headset" reviews and we all know the first time you ever wear a headset is always awesome.
What experience? For the price of a vision pro, you can buy a quest 3 10 games and an amazing strap with extra battery and still save 1500$-2000$. Also you get controllers which you didn't need in the quest 2 even because hand tracking is a thing the quest 2 did. Why are reviewers stating the obvious .... a more expensive headset is better ... no shit really? It's embarrassing that the quest 3 is so close in so many cats for 1/7 th the price.
Yeah I was watching another AVP video a few minutes ago and I started thinking I don't really want to listen to anyone's opinion any more unless they make it clear they have previous experience with other current headsets.
I couldn't justify paying $3500 for Apples device when the Quest 3 is $500 and way more games and features. Maybe the next version of the Vision Pro once they get to that point but right now its not worth the money.
The quest 3 is better in my opinion. When you talked about the desktop for working I was kinda mad when you didn’t talk about the compatibility the quest 3 has as it is about to connect to both windows and the mac.
This all depends on the use. If you use a Macbook for work, then the AVP is great. If you use a PC, then yes, the AVP won't work well for now. I play games in full FPS by mirroring my Macbook and then remote connecting to my gaming PC. It is actually pretty fast and responsive. It isn't ideal though and I would love to have direct connection to my PC. If they just made it also accept direct USB-C support, I would love it even more.
@@saoirsethewanderer you say if I wanna work on my Mac with the Vision Pro then it is great. But how great is it when I can only use one window? It isn’t like I can create 3 virtual displays for my Mac. So it is kinda just as limited as one physical display
@@kevinlittletechit isn’t about how many windows you can make. I have a Q3 with Immersed and just can have 5 windows, but it doesn’t really help me more productive. It is about immersion and the ability to add iPad apps and native apps individually outside of the main window. The one screen with the resolution it is is enough to have tons of things open. Your eyes can’t focus on too many side by sides at once and eventually it is all in the sides of your eyes anyways.
@@TechnobikerIDVision pro is for people who have a complete apple ecosystem. If you're not a hard fan of Apple, you will be very limited. I'm a dev, i dev mobiles apps, not VR apps but If I had to do it I certainly wouldn't do it on the vision pro at least for the moment because the public is far too limited mainly because of the price.
@@This_is_Elzed and TechnobikerID, I don't even see how vision pro is a developer device. I'm a developer too. I want the vision pro to do development things, but I get slightly peeved when I see people say it is for developer. Just because it's an expensive first gen device doesn't mean it's for developer in my opinion. I think apple just wants to sell to whover wants and can afford it. I feel like there's not really a such thing as developer device anymore. But that's just what I think of it. I'm just one guy
@@cwash08i think he meant that it’s meant for developers to use to develop apps FOR it rather than on it. if you’re an average user and you aren’t trying to create apps for it, the Vision Pro just isn’t worth it atm. however, if you’re making apps for it or you’re deep in the Apple ecosystem, then you might get some good use out of it that no other headset has.
Was doing the dishes and watching this in the Q3 128 for 499 I have since 5 months now, in Skybox' MR view, 27" screen always in front of me while seeing all the things I need to grab, clean, store...
When I buy a headset today, I'm interested in what I can do with it NOW, what apps are available for it NOW and how much fun I can have with it NOW. With the Visison Pro, I keep hearing "It will definitely be able to do that at some point. At some point you'll get that for the Vision Pro too" Okay, then you can wait until the Vision Pro actually has it and can do it. I don't have to spend a lot of money now and then wait for what I want to come at some point or never. I'd rather buy a Quest 3 for which there is a lot of software and which has so many users that I can actually have fun with it in a community in VR and have social experiences. The Vision Pro, on the other hand, is more of a first-person headset in which you are very much alone, which socially excludes you instead of enabling new social contacts like the Quest 3 can.
I am a VR veteran who has been an enthusiast since 2016,. and I have had every Oculus headset except the way overpriced not worth your money, Pro. I have also had the HTC Vive, and for a short time the PSVR. Without even watching this video, I already know the answer for a 100% fact. The Quest 3 is a steal for $500 and you get everything you could ask for to game and run social and media apps. Apple Vision is for rich business people who want the latest and greatest in the new niche space of spatial computing or having a headset for a monitor. It is designed as a workspace to run all of your ipad apps, iphone apps or media in 2d just like on your regular devices except your 2d apps which stay 2d are in a 3d setting within the headset. It has the best quality passthrough on the market right now, but has zero software to make a purchase worth it. The Vision Pro is nice hardware but there is very little to no software that utilizes the hardware of the headset and your paying close to 4K with tax for the privilege, when the Quest 3 is 1/8 the price and can run both dedicated Quest 3 AAA Games and apps from the Oculus Meta store, but also connect to your PC to play PC VR games from the same store and also the Steam VR store. There is no contest the Quest 3 is the winner by miles.
first of all, there are already solutions for vision pro PCVR, and the creator of virtual desktop working on a vision pro version. But if you owned every oculus headset, you should know how the quest 1 launched. Very few titles, not really a solution to use with pcvr, and meta was against it at first. also you should know about the company version of the quest 1, which had no spying and user data selling unlike the consumer version, and it had twice the price. Also you should know about the terrible business tactics of meta, and how they managed to make developers being interested in the quest platform (let me help you, meta bought the developers attention with a lot of money)
@@nagyFerko First of all let me tell you, that I am fully aware of Meta/Facebook as a company and I neither like them nor trust them, but if your foolish enough to think for a moment that Apple is different when it comes to tracking and privacy issues, and that they are the good guys, then you are a fool and are going to be in for a rude awakening when all is said and done. When the Quest 1 first launched It already had a lot of games and apps most of which were ports from both the Rift CV1 and the Oculus Go which I both owned. What sucked was not lack of content but having to repurchase content I already owned on the other Oculus headsets since they each had their own separate store. But your comparison is moot as the Quest 1 was around $300 if I remember correctly which was very affordable but the 4K for the Vision Pro with next to no software at present and gaming not at all on the horizon and not something Apple is interested in pursuing, I ll stick with evil Meta for now. Your paying Apple 4K for the privilege of basically wearing an iPad on your face
@@BaritoneUkeBeast4Life no one said that Apple didn’t gather data from the user, but the difference is how they use it, and how often they could get hacked. First one of the main income for meta is the user data, while Apple uses it for its own purposes. Also I’ve heard way more about Facebook user data leaks than Apple user data leaks. Yes, the Vision Pro more expensive then the quest 3, but didn’t sell your data. Have way better screen, speaker, performance. And it even got steam vr support so you can game if you are a kid who can only uses a computer for games. And I am also a quest 2-3 user. Had a quest 1 too. But still see why is there a big price difference.
@@nagyFerko And how do you know 100% how Apple is using our data for it’s own purposes? And just because you may have heard more reports about data leaks from FB doesn’t mean that Apple has had less, just that YOU haven’t heard as many. So that just means that Apple has had less as far as YOU know. But for $h!ts and giggles lets just say that your right and that in the past year Apple had 5 data leaks to Meta’s 10, does that change anything? A data breach is a data breach and all it takes is one. Apple which used to be small potatoes and not worth the time or effort of h@cking compared to Microsoft has now become one of the biggest companies in the world with at least half the worlds population as its user base, and are now a data base ripe for the picking, pun intended. The Bottom line is you don’t really know what Apple is doing with your data or who they may be sharing it with. You are only taking their word on it. The Vision Pro is essentially a first gen beta for rich folks who have money to burn, and anyone in the tech industry will tell you, it is a bad investment to purchase first gen tech as it is still in its infancy, it doesn’t have the support or content from devs in regards to software and will be replaced by a much improved and superior model by the time the software and apps start catching up. So by the time there is enough decent software for the Vision Pro, the Vision Pro 2 will be on the market and you will need to buy a new 4K headset. So far the Quest line of headsets have all been backwards compatible and upgrading to a $500 headset is way less painful than upgrading to a 4K headset each generation. Oh and you will notice companies like Google, UA-cam, and Netflix to name but a few have declined having any dedicated apps for the Vision Pro, as it currently isn’t worth their time or investment.
I can always tell when people haven't actually used their Quest 2/3 much. The giveaway is that they are still using the standard floppy head strap. For $30-$50 they could have vastly upgraded their experience with even the worst aftermarket head strap.
I use my quest for 1-2 hours / day almost daily and it's not bad still. Since the quest was quite an investment for me I'm not planning on getting a strap just yet, but it's not a bad experience even with the stock strap
As a Quest 3 user for 2 months, I have beat saber sessions that lasts from half an hour to even 1.5 hours per day for almost every day (2 hours and above during a cold day and I got a type-c charging cable running under my clothes to the headset so that my hands don't yank the cable), and I take it off whenever I felt the cushion is too soaked up with sweat. That stock head strap served me decently well, and I honestly still have no need to upgrade.
Bummer that the quest 3 capture looks so low res. It’s not like that in the headset, text is sharp and resolution is pretty great overall despite being lower than the APV.
That is a very important comment you made. Every time I saw comparisons, I would be thinking like "I can't with that quality". Why don't the "just get a Quest 3" crowd mention this more often!? I was planning to get the Vision Pro, but now I want both
The best review I've seen. Yes, we're waiting for the thin glasses or the not so popular choice of chip implants. But, of course we can't handle these products like we're used to from cellphones and PCs
Maybe, Apple will certainly advertise to you as soon as you walk into their store, right now they just use displays and people. But it's the 3rd party apps that will advertise the most. As soon as you install food app or clothing store or whatever those apps will advertise to you. @@bobweiram6321
@@codygarcia9296 I tried the Vp from a friend. It's definitely smaller fov than quest3. Removing the face crushing does bring it closer if not the same as Quest3. Kinda bummer.
easy: vision pro: better materials, 2024, better design, better ecosystem and 3500$ quest 3: better for gaming, better built-in battery, better functionality, unlimited things to do with it and 500$ it's obvious that the vision pro has that better things, it costs 7 times the quest 3
I did a Apple Vision Pro demo the other day and I just used the regular band and for the whole 25 or so minutes I not once noticed any discomfort. Are you maybe overtightening it a bit?
The biggest thing I'm looking for in passthrough headsets is the ability to watch movies and other streaming content on a virtual screen in a fixed location in my physical space, and can replace my physical TV. When they get there, then I can start to go all in on this technology.
@@shonubijoye9196 Well, until I see a video that shows this, I'm holding off until it happens. If you know of a video, feel free to reply with a link and a timestamp. Until then, here's waiting for virtual TVs in our physical space.
I just recently purchased the Q3 a month ago.. Then went to demo the Vision Pro... Very disappointed with the Vision Pro. The Pro is 5 times the price over the Q3, but the FOV for for that price point isn't worth it.. For the money they should have done more... Better Value for the dollar - Q3 hands down..
Based on your comments, it seems like the Q3 is like a 3 star HS football recruit who ultimately is pushing everything out of his abilities and potential and might even be re-graded as a low 4.0 star, based on what he has actually done. And the AVP is like that 5 star recruit who's just arrived on campus and the future is wide open. But he hasn't actually done anything yet at the collegiate level, apart from some workouts and practices. But what you see so far is very promising. But that's what it is: A promise. There's no telling what the future will hold. But, if trends hold, wow, he's gonna be a knockout. At some point in the future.
Apple price their products outrageously claiming its premium. The annoying part is that, Apple does not optimize their software and Apps. These occupy thorn of spaces on the devices. Especially, videos, 5 minutes video can take 2GB space
What people truly seek in VR/AR devices is the clarity of experience that matches what we're accustomed to with PC monitors or TVs. The ability to work or play with visuals that are crisp and immersive without strain is key. It's not just about being in a virtual world; it's about seamlessly integrating that world with our real-life expectations of quality and comfort. Manufacturers who nail this aspect will truly lead the next leap in VR/AR technology.
I've heard other people say the exact opposite on comfort... everyone's head is different, so best to try them out yourself to figure out what is comfortable for you.
@@JN-ft1vo There are many things in the world where something that is barely better is MUCH more expensive. That's how things work... just saying take the subjective parts and find out yourself on how it works for you.
@@JN-ft1vo by your opinion maybe... There is a lot better about the Apple, even if its very minor. But like comparing a Honda and a Mercedes... the car might be 10% nicer (and some of that and more is subjective), but does that mean it should be 300% the price? Its how things happen.
I remember people walking around with massive headsets on their head for the first time. Now it's normal. I think that this is going to be the same thing with AR/VR glasses/headsets.
the funny part is that even for non gaming the quest is doing better that the avp, i mean it has no apps, just promises quest ar or for productivity alrdy have developed tools
As simple as this: 1. Quest 3 does everything Vision Pro does but worse 2. Vision Pro doesn't do everything Quest 3 does Which means it's like comparing a Ferrari to BMW car, in other words Ferrari will never be better value than BMW (ignoring resale value)..... So winner in terms of value always will be Quest 3 by far I hope this comment didn't make anyone dizzy
No, the ONLY things the Vision Pro doesn’t do better are things that the Vision Pro was NEVER advertised for… like VR gaming. You can play traditional games but nothing more.
Is wearing the vr headset all the time effects your vision?? Is watching tv from close distance effects your eyes ? Are we having any studies to see if it’s bad for health ? So manny questions 🎉🎉
I tried an AVP and instantly started making plans to buy one, but I thought I should at least try the Quest 3 first and probably send it back. I got it and kept it, cause it really does enough of what the AVP can for 1/7th of the price. Also, more weight, less comfort, that awkward external battery and not being able to easily load my local movie files onto the AVP were all dealbreakers. Thanks for the great comparison (and the funny bloopers!)
When it comes to productivity, concept and a workflow Vision pro wins. They intentionally made it expensive or else no one will buy or upgrade their mackbook, imac.
I think to choose, you have to ask yourself which one has what you WANT MOST, available to play/use. I personally am looking for virtual reality fitness apps, and lucky for me, Meta Quest 3 for five hundred coins seems to cover this area thoroughly. I appreciate the effort and time you took to make this video friend.
On AVP u dont have haptic feedback whatever u touch, pinch or do, also a smaller vertical field of few compared to Quest 3, worse distributed weight and an external battery, come on Apple, is that the best u could do for that price?
on the quest 3, you have no haptic feedback while using handtracking, also the screen is at an angle to make the FoV that big, makes it less sharp then it should be. lower resolution and lower battery time while using Passtrough. and Meta only able to sell the quest so cheap, because they are spying on users and selling their data, quest 1 had a version without spying for companies, and it had twice the price. (and i had a quest 1, and currently owning a quest 2 and 3)
@@nagyFerko The first Quest was more expensive because it had OLED displays, a more premium headband and materials and a continius eye space slider, while Quest 2 only had LCD and only 3 eye space settings and cheap headband. Screen at an angle to achieve higher FOV wtf are u talking about? Hand tracking is an optional input method, the prinar, is with the precise VR controllers with haptic feedback. Also the batterytime is usually longer on Quest 3 as most can use the additonal headstrap with an additional battery for even better comfort and longer battery usage.
@@lightstorm6652 you can check how the quest 3’s screens are angled. What you are saying about the quest 1 is true, that’s why do quest 2 launched at a cheaper price then the consumer quest 1, but it’s still spying and stealing you data just as the quest 1 did. And saying that you can get better battery time with the quest 3 if you use an external battery is true, but then you can do the same with the Vision Pro. If you really believe that Meta can make a vr headset with a built in high end android phone cheaper then what a comparable pcvr headset cost, you are just delusional. Meta sells your data. They are doing it on Facebook, instagram, and on the quest. Only on the quest you have no option to turn it off unlike on an iPhone where you have a toggle if you don’t want those apps to track you.
I gotta agree that I think the Xreal glasses are my preferred method of AR. I didn't know how much I'd like them but they've been a GAME CHANGER. I use them practically every night in bed to play my Steamdeck or watch a movie.
I own a Quest 3 and it can do everything that Apple Vision Pro does except for eye tracking. May be the picture quality is slightly compromised but all in all, this it is well worth the money you spend for nearly 7 times cheaper than Apple headset. But i'm sure most Apple fan boys will still praise the price point.
"I own a Quest 3 and it can do everything that Apple Vision Pro does"- That's the problem doing the same things has nothing to do with how good you are doing it or the Experience of doing it. Android has done this for 10 to 15 years and Users have always complained that the user experience was poor. It's Like an Audi vs a Honda civic "they do the same thing" but the experience is night and day.
@@RogerJoseph I won't deny that. I'm sure it is much better experience on Vision Pro. The same principle can be applied to many of the tech. An average GPU can run a game in medium settings while a high end GPU can run it in incredible visuals. Both get the same gaming experience, but 1 of them has a much better visual experience at a much higher price.
If I really have the money, they is no bargain, am going for Vision Pro, even the recording shows the Vision pro is just better, but for now the Meta quest 3 is an entry level exprience
I went with the AVP, but I think this is a really great take. I’m not a big fan of Meta/Facebook, but if you don’t have a problem with the company, the Quest 3 is a great value (partially because Meta subsidies it like Facebook, which is what I don’t like) and much better for gaming. I stick with my Index for VR gaming, which isn’t as good of a headset as Quest 3 but a better company imo, but even the Index is pretty pricey.
It’s all money vs gaming right now. Now if Meta can release their next pro or quest line with near Apple Pass through then it’s more of a comparison. That being said, I’m sure the Quest 3 is still awesome. But I’m super intrigued by what they release next. Can they compete with Apple without an external battery etc. This will be entertaining either way.
My take is this: If you care about gaming, get the quest 3 or 2. if you are a fan of the apple ecosystem you can get the vision pro but it's better to wait for a version 2. If meta wants to compete with the vision pro, they should release a quest 3 pro. similar to their first pro head set(which flopped hard) , better displays and a better processor with built in features like eye tracking. the quest line was always meant to be an affordable option for people to enter vr and the "metaverse" while their pro line up was targeted at businesses and professionals.
Meta just needs micro OLED. That was all I was waiting for but meta really let me down. Apple showed them how to do it, so now I don't want to see another LCD in any Quest Pro headset from now on.
@@dtz1000you and me both. I was really tempted not to upgrade when I saw they hadn't upgrade to microOLED or even just OLED in the Quest 3. In terms of color the Quest 1 beats the Quest 2/3 and that's sad.
It's coming they already have plan for it , they said will be release 2025 , and will be way cheaper that vision pro but of course maybe triple the price of quest 3. even samsung they will release there own headset
00:16 🎮 The video discusses a comparison between the Vision Pro and Quest 3 VR headsets, focusing on hardware, design, comfort, software, applications, and gaming. 01:59 🛠 Vision Pro offers premium hardware with features like M2 and R1 chips, eye tracking, and spatial audio, but its external battery design might be inconvenient for some users. 03:39 🎭 Quest 3 boasts a more gaming-centric design with a plastic build and offers a comfortable fit with its standard VR headband. 05:56 🖥 Vision Pro's software provides a smooth and intuitive experience with an iPad-like interface and advanced features like depth sensing, while Quest 3's software feels more traditional but functional. 08:20 📱 Quest 3 currently has a larger library of applications and games compared to Vision Pro, making it a more versatile option for users. 11:05 🎮 Quest 3 offers a superior gaming experience with a wide variety of games and better tactile controls, while Vision Pro's gaming capabilities are still evolving. 15:29 💰 The decision between Vision Pro and Quest 3 ultimately depends on individual preferences and budget, with both devices offering unique features and experiences.
Vision Pro will improve in posterior generations, at the moment, it's only for pro users, to start to develop applications. Quest 3 is perfect as it is as of now. But competition will improve both.
Excellent video! I have the Quest Pro, 3 and Apple Vision Pro. As a non-gamer with an Apple ecosystem, I run home to use my Apple Vision where my Quests collect dust. I’m looking forward to additional apps for productivity and more entertainment that takes advantage of it. The battery size shocked me as it looks like a giant external hard drive. But despite interesting uses we’ve seen on the go, I think this is primarily for static use so while sitting or in bed and with the holster, I’ve gotten used to it. I also prefer the original band with a slap cap on my head.
You said you run home to use the vision pro instead of the Quest. You spent $3500 on the AVP. Whay are you using it for? I mean, because you said you run home to use it.
this is another reason why Im sticking with my quest 3. The only apple product that I have is a five plus year old iphone, so I don't see the point of getting an apple vision pro. I would get this cool technology but for an ecosystem that I don't otherwise live in. I can use the quest app on my pc to interact with my computer in bigscreen. I think that quest is built to work with pcs and AVPs are built to work with apple products, and so I think that I should stick with the quest.
@@NBGUYVER "You said you run home to use the vision pro instead of the Quest." - There is no reality where you understand the AVP is a better device that consumers enjoy more. The sentiment of the writer is exactly what makes the AVP surpass the Quest. The experience is very different. Literally every person whos posted a video on this has said the same thing yet you're like "defying the ods". Good luck with that.
I play games like beat saver and drums on Q3 512 gb but my go to watching movies and 3D movies is the Vision Pro 1 tb ...... When in doubt just get both of them.... It's no different than having a car or an SUV and/or a motorcycle, they all do the same thing, get you from point A to point B.....it's just how do you want to get there...
@loitersquadx8590 you gain he same capable device what only the quest 3 + a decent laptop (for M2 performance level of dedicated GPU, since the integrated GPU is very limited in performance, and you need to connect to a PC to improve it) + 7.1 sound system (for the similar experience like spatial audio, alias for the built in 3D sounds in the Vision Pro). If you spend money on each that is not too far from the $3500, but it's much harder to carry all of them instead of the much smaller Vision Pro with all of this inside.
@@TamasKiss-yk4st I don't think 3500 is Worth it for a 2 hour device. That's stupid. This doesn't do anything. You can FaceTime which is already a thing. You can game but not very heavy. I'm just so confused what is this for. The oculus is VR. The oculus lets you do everything this does for the most part. UA-cam. Which is still confusing to me. Gaming is the main thing, exercise, maybe video calling, and sporting events like the NBA , or NFL have the cool seats. Maybe a certain movie that utilizes that tech. Again you don't need apple. Apple charges so much for tech that's not worth it
I feel like saying the quest is just for gaming is selling it short. you got tons of other productivity and media viewing apps as well, it does spatial computing for a fraction of the price of the AVP and has a massive gaming library to boot.
You completely left out the spatial video that you can create with an iPhone 15. Imagine filming your kids first birthday party in spatial video and being able to go back and immerse yourself fully in the moment, 10-15-20 years from now. It’s deeper than just 3D. It’s like you’re right there… in the mix of it. Right in the middle of it. That has such a powerful emotional impact, that feature alone is a killer app of the Vision Pro.
No just compare two totally different headsets one being a generation 7 or whatever and one being a generation one and give stupid subjective opinions on it. Nobody talks about what Apple just brought to the table has changed the game entirely
@@IEA_455Apple bring to the table a 1st generation at 3500$, don't expect the futures generations to be on lower price. iPhone prices goes up every years, this will be the same with the headset. We will end up with a vision pro 3rd gen with a price of 4500-5000$ lol
@@IEA_455 You see when the groundwork has already been fully laid out and all the technology advanced, entering a market like those new chinese EV manufacturers which are on par with any big car manufacturer on the 200th generation of cars, is quite simple and apple has not done a single thing that is new, its done the same stuff, sometimes worse and just put an expensive CPU with expensive screens and expensive cameras in a block of aluminum. theres better screens on some headsets, theres better lenses on some and theres better passthrough on some. Its just that the others know that you dont try making a master of none work. Apple can get away with it, cuz their customers sniff lead paint.
Vision pro has "tons of possibilities" you can't even use yet & it's at 3.5k, yet Quest 3 tons of possibilities you can already use for just $500. As usual, one company started out by producing some expensive frame and the other by making real productive and efficient product we were looking for at even a reasonable/ cheaper price.
The Meta Quest 3 is a VR gaming console, while the Vision Pro is a stand alone spatial COMPUTER comparable to an iPad Pro with significantly better cameras for 4K immersive capture. Plus you can see your actual environment through the lenses… If I had purchased an Studio Display with tilt and height adjustment, it would have cost over $2K, and a coupe of good quality monitors to flank it, I would have spend another five to seven hundred for each for a total of $3,000 - $3,400. Two Studio Displays would have cost over $4K, and three would have cost over $6K… The Vision Pro was well worth the price (1TB | Battery | VP Case | plus another Light Seal), and thus far having a great time exploring the possibilities. It totally feels like a whole new paradigm shift in computing. I can lay in bed or on the floor and use the entire ceiling as a workspace, and overall it would be better for me ergonomically and for my posture… 🤔
🙌🏽 Those comparing it too much to a gaming console are missing the point. I put off replacing my secondary TV in favor of waiting for the Apple Vision Pro. It didn’t disappoint.
Obviously, you haven't tried one yet. It's like a heavy iPhone Pro Max hanging off your forehead. Also, when connected to a Mac, you'll have only ONE screen.
I love how people have literally taken Apples marketing terminology for their VR headset and say it with SUCH conviction. As if we all seem to have known what "spatial computing" was our whole damn lives.
A couple of years ago I started using a Mac to work, so that made want to give it a try to an iPhone as well. I loved the integration and how things are so much easier when you have all things apple. That being said, 3500 is just too much. I hope apple comes up with a cheaper version in the future though
The biggest problem with the vision pro is the same problem PC VR had a small audience so little buyers which leads to software developers not being motivated to create.
@@BooredAtWork well we will see . I hope apple can create a need for the headset. Meta found their need through games. Apple decided to create its own needs.
That’s for big risky expensive games for fickle audiences. The AVP isn’t a gaming device. The Iphone/Ipad app developers will more than likely just add a vision pro team to their company. Probably a year before we really have any kind of idea what developers are going to do with this thing.
@@74Spyderman as a owner of the first oculus rift headset, almost everything that we are doing now was first developed on pc VR. As a VR enthusiast I truly hope Apple succeeds. I also want Apple to truly understand what the situation actually is. I don't want VR to be declared dead again because Apple got into a market it didn't understand. Meta have been putting money in VR for years without a profit. The reason Meta is doing this is because they understand that they are creating something new with limitless potential. The tech and technology is not quite at the point of mass adoption. But with every new use and new hardware break through we are getting closer and closer. The VR headset is the only device that could actually totally replace the Smart phone. Instead of phone calls holograms become real. Instead of translation apps you could have English dub added to your conversation. An Al assistant could prep a whole date night for you in another state. Giving you details as a Holo Graham you can interact with like a virtual butler. Theirs nothing that can't be simulated. Mix reality technology will get better and better as computing powers grow. Changing how we learn, shop, virtual work, even how we rest and relax. Imagine going to mars on a 30 mars mission but now you can take walks with your wife after work. You can play here in a game of chess you can even go on movie dates. I just need Apple and its supporters to be patient with this technology it's worth the Wait.
PCVR has one really big problem, Meta. Meta made a lot of deal to make games exclusive, or excluise for months. Meta literaly bought companies to control them to only release games on the quest. and also, pcvr headset makers can't sell the headset at loss to then get back the money spying and selling user data (quest 1 had a version without spying for twice the price of the consumer one)
Its not about expensive or cheap,, the technology is new for us to explore and enjoy,, if we can manage grab one at an affordable price, why not to try the Quest 3??
That's funny... because I bought the Quest 3 back in November because I kept seeing videos pop up on my feed about it. Tons of hype and comments about it. The hype in the comment sections were/are intriguing. Enough for me to go out and buy it (my first ever vr headset). It blew my mind as it was my first vr experience. My brother came over and tried it... and I ended up buying him one for Christmas. Long story short.... there were tons of people talking about the Meta Quest 3 well before the release of the Apple Vision Pro. And it is extremely popular. And because of the massive price difference alone...... there are going to be many more people using the Quest 3 than the Apple Vision Pro. The fact you can buy 7 Quest 3 headsets to 1 Apple headset is horrid.... and it will grossly hinder the success of its sales.
@@JuliusMacharia-oe1xu "Nobody talked about the IPhone until Samsung came either" - What are you smoking. Samsung phones were like a raindrop in a lake. No one notices it. Please don't play Like Samsung is a popular phone. All apples competition can be added up as one and apple will still have more devices sales than them. Out of all Android Samsung is the best I give it that credit but there's also reality.
Remember, the quest was made for the average person to get wide adoption at an affordable price, so they had to cut back on some things. Apple is at a high end price point and trying to compete with a $500 headset. They are two different types of headset for two different types of people. The vision pro should be compared to the high end VR headsets. The reason the quest sells so well is because it allows the average person to enter VR.
The Apple Vision Pro design is better looking but very very fragile as you can stracth the glass on the outside with a level 3 stratcher which makes it very fragile and yeah the screens are better but it has a lower field if view so you'll see less anyway lool plus I have the PSVR2 and that display is also incredible as it's a Sony display which is probably 1 step down from the Vision Pro as in its the 1st display to offer HDR that actually burns your eyes sometimes if your playing a game which has strong colours and sun flair effects etc and it also has eye tracking and a feature nonothwr headset has and that's the headset rumble so playing VR games is the best you can get in terms of immersion and actually feeling like your right there but for other things like watching UA-cam playing Mixed Reality games and producing music in Mixed Reality which Apple missed the mark in as they should have made Logic Pro X for this headset where you could have instruments and devices in Mixed Reality so you could have your virtual recording Studio anywhere in any environment like I can with my Quest 3 but apple decided not to put a headphone jack on the headset 😂😂😂 and I actually use my Quest 3 with my Apple products everyday and I don't have to spend $3,500 just to that
The problem is, while they may have the processing power, the Vision Pro limits itself in the input method they have chosen. Rather than using a more tactile hand tracking approach, they're essentially using your hand as a 3D mouse that's still disconnected from what you're doing in each app. I saw some videos of this being used in art and modeling software and it feels like a giant missed opportunity compared to similar apps already available on the Quest platform. Apple is going to have to reconsider how they handle their inputs for this type of device. They're already extremely limiting their options in both gaming and productivity, which kind of makes you wonder who is going to benefit from this enough to justify paying 7x the cost of devices that may be weaker and have a lower resolution, but have the capacity to offer the tactile feel that those markets benefit from. Graphics and processing power aren't going to be what drives the shift to "spacial computing", it will be the methods we use to close the gaps between the virtual and real environments. How we physically interact with the virtual is going to be one of the biggest determining factors in how practical and beneficial it will be to work in these environments. You want that to feel as natural as using physical media and tools and Apple simply doesn't deliver on that. Maybe moving forward they'll reconsider, but for now, they're still lagging behind.
I agree with most of what you said except for the Quest 3 is 4k do the math 2,064 x 2,208 pixels per eye. = 4,557,312 pixels per eye. Thats OVER 4k plus !!! Vision Pro is 5k plus..... You can also set your backdrops to be on the moon Q3 has a moonscape built in just need to dig deeper.
My man that is not what 4k is referring to, 4k does not mean pixel count. And the quest is like 4.5 million per eye and the Vision Pro is like 12.3 million per eye, nearly 3x the pixels per eye of the quest
@@GenghisGaming 4K in computer displays mean 4096 × 2160. It's *K* meaning a thousand. That combined with the aspect ratio of the display will give you the resolution of the display. By contrast, you won't know anything about knowing the total pixel count other than the fact that it's so high or low. 4K in TV means 3840 × 2160 and the reason for this is that it's resolution is exactly 4 times of Full HD resolution which is 1920 × 1080 which was also marketed as 2K as the pixel count of the length of the display is close to 2000. The real 2K is actually 2048 × 1080. Just as the real 4K which is also the quadruple of real 2K.
@@sriramsundar8388 its almost like the phrases don’t really mean anything whatsoever, its so nebulous and its definition changes by whoever you ask. For HMDs its much better to go off PPD
you forgot to mention the pcvr if the reasons has a weight, being able to use PC-VR weighs a ton, it is a whole new platform, you play quality things with your *PC hardware* and i mean vr again you can't do that in vision pro, the moment i knew that, it was a insta drop for me, mostly for gaming uses.. u can install literally any android app, but not directly tho, u need a pc even psp or gamecube emulators, also gamepass can be installed on standalone q3 things to mention on the quest side -there is also a office apps for android that works well -bigscreen to see movies or local videos with friends or unkown ppl -gravity sketch to draw 3d maps, or models -sculp app for 3d modeling like blender etc -native netflix, youtube, whatsapp on vr -u can see 3d videos on any video player -ar experiences like the dinosaur quest have a ton, the quest demo of shooting aliens, from put monsters or enemys to kill on your house to put aquariums on your walls, window etc... vr windows in ar env and viseversa like the lego game..... coperative ar minigames with a friend close to your or not if u want table games or smthg, u can leave Widgets arround your house like the vision pro -pianovision to play your real midi piano like a rythm game and learn it meanwhile and all that is not a "promise" but something that u can do right now, and just for 500 euro i experienced that promise situation 3 times and u can be sure that those promising apps will arrive the next gen of vision pro if u are lucky, and when they finally come out u will bored realy fast about the vision pro vision pro has better quality and hardware, no one can deny that, but that hardware is just air bcuz the visor totally dont use it, the only new aside of the screen quality and ecosystem is the eye tracking, and just the way of use it bc quest pro has that too, everything else u see there is already normal on quest since years ago ppl on youtube are so boring with thier vision pro that they just walk arround putting youtube screens and open and closing the menu, i still didnt see any video of someone truly enjoying thier vision pro, like using it for real... the hype is making ppl missusing the vision pro, is not for take outside, the lenses can focus the sunlight and burn the micropixels, they are expecting something like ready player one but thats not the reality, vision pro is a consumer product to use in house too u can use for work, but it isnt more convenient that a normal plane screen, it isnt more productive just bc u have multitasking, thats more distractive in fact, even worse since is heavy for use in long periods and give pain in the eyes even if the screens are amazing, ofc its not for use 8hours everyday i had to remember u that meta was also aiming to be a visor for work, but thats just dosnt work, and it naturally slowly turns into a gaming visor.. i wonder if that will be the case with the vision pro.... but it dosnt have controllers, the vision hand tracking is a little better that the q3 one, but still not realiable, play with your eyes i see that hard.. maybe it will turn into a expensive screen to play plane games and videos avp is a 1:1 copy of the meta mirror lake prototype from 1y ago
I like your video and the way you talk about it. I bought a Quest3 and am happy with it. I use it so much more than my Quest2 and even a lot more than my Pico4. The Vision Pro seems to have a plastic front and not a glass front... so apart from smudges, maybe over time, it will be full of scratches. We'll see in a few months how it all works out. Just got the update 62 for my Quest and again a major improvement. But anyway I would love to try a Vision Pro... just to see that dinosaur popping out of the screen. Would that be possible with the Quest, now we can see those spatial 3D videos in the Quest3 as well?
As someone who's been exclusively in the apple ecosystem for a long time, and also just picked up the quest 3, I think the possibilities are good for the vision pro. However, as a gamer, I've tethered the quest 3 to my imac and am able to seamlessly play mac os games. Plus the massive catalogue meta offers and constant updates, I'm extremely happy with the quest
The success of vision pro long term depends on the price because not many people will shell out 3500. And less people using it means less incentive to develop apps. Quest while not as polished can still improve with software updates and with apple as competition I think their next generation will be killer. When it comes to value it’s obviously the quest.
For me, a VR headset is nothing but a display that I strap on my head for a specific game or such. I will not have any headset on my head for every day usages like email, documents or watching a YT video. This means that a PS4 headset or a Quest 3 on PC is the absolute max I need and what I pay for. Apple's $3500 headset might be awesome with a "it's all different" qualifier next to it. It however is completely useless for my VR needs (wants).
Honestly it's wild to me that anyone can find the Quest 3 comfortable with that head strap. I even upgraded to the Elite strap and silicone face mask and still got raging headaches and sore cheekbones from the pressure. Swapped it out for a Kiwi headstrap and an AMVR face cover and it feels like I'm wearing a pillow on my head - it's a WORLD of difference. I'd expect the Vision Pro would probably require the same treatment although at that price point it really shouldn't (and neither should the Quest if you're buying the official upgrades).
This is interesting. Still, I believe for some of us, PCVR is one of the most important uses of such a device, and the Apple Vision apparently cannot work on that scenario... so for those PC players that already have good GPUs, then it's not even a contest: one works, the other doesn't.
I'm always surprised when I hear people comment about the Vision Pro looking better, WITHOUT acknowledging that it had BETTER look better at that price point. EVERY thing should be better at that price point.
Quest pro 2 will capitalize. Most likely with higher quality cameras and screen tech that's really all they need. Then quest 4 will likely adopt the same tech later. The good thing is meta can make a quest pro 2 announcement anytime and whack apple off the market for a much cheaper headset. I had quest 3 and only thing I didn't like was the passthrough quality.
I don't know. Meta's marketing is complete trash no matter how great their products are, it will not sell well and all these hate spread against Meta ain't gonna help it neither. Quest 2 is easily far miles away better than Nintendo Switch in many ways but it still doesn't sold nearly as well. While Apple is the king when it comes to letting people know their products existed and what it does
that fact that a $3.5k headset and $500 headset are even close enough to be remotely comparable should tell you something in itself.
They aren’t comparable. Reviewers and owners of both know this. You do not. For very obvious reasons.
@@CarloGrams sounds like you’re salty that you wasted 3 and a half grand on a vr-iphone when you couldve gotten a quest 3, a very high end pc, and all the accessories you need for it, for the same price. oh and you also get the freedom to do what you want with what you paid for instead of being trapped in the apple ecosystem.
@@9_1.1 My man, I’m in production. I literally am required to use all kinds of platforms, from PC to Mac. You’re living in a reality where someone can’t have products from different brands. I enjoy my quest 3 for what it is. A gaming machine. And it hooks up to my rig when it’s time for SkyRim or No Mans Sky. Can I produce media for other entities using that setup? Yes. I can, and I have tried, and unless I’m willing to shell out another $8500 just for a Varjo headset to tether to my rig instead, it’s just an absolute abysmal experience using the Quest 3 to monitor a DAW or editing software where visual fidelity and color-accuracy are paramount. The AVP offers the same spec requirements as that Varjo headset at over half the cost. That’s the only reason why I ended up with one, so I can run productions like Tony Stark. Does this mean I stopped playing my Quest? No. You don’t need to prostrate your fealty to some company, just get what you like to use and what makes sense for what you’re trying to accomplish. We get it, the Vision Pro isn’t for you. That doesn’t mean you need to mutate into some Zuck-Cuck over it.
It's not because of closing enough..Just don't have other comparables.
you should be in the USA congress .
For $3500, each member in a family of 4 can have a personal Quest 3 device and can enjoy the VR experience together.
Yeah...the price definitely needs work, but I think it's meant to be a relatively exclusive device currently and they're using the premiums to cover development costs. What the Quest does is cool, and it's definitely a capable headset, but unless the software stack changed dramatically from 2 to 3 then I don't think they're anywhere close to parity with Apple.
$3500 was the rough cost of my 486 pentium 2 processor with 12 MB of RAM in the late 80’s. People are stupid thinking bleeding edge technology should cost the same as a smartphone or videogame console
@@CarloGramsI wouldn't consider it bleeding edge technology when there are other devices that are close enough for less than a quarter of the price. There is nothing about AVP that should make it cost 4k. Unless you are very wealthy you are an absolute moron for buying something that adds minimal convenience to your life, is uncomfortable to wear, and only lasts 2 hours before you have to charge it.
@@lumbruhjack8888for the price of one vision pro you can buy 7 quest 3's. so that's enough quest 3's for an entire family of 7
@@CarloGramswhats stupid is you thinking a 3.5k device is better than the 500$ device, not a 1k device not 2k but 500, 😂 i bet you also bought the airpod max,
Watching this video on my quest 3 512gb inside a photo realistic enviornment of Bryce canyon. youtube is about 150 inches wide in front of me smiling because i paid 650 not 3500. time to play some Red Matter.
NO WAY CONGRATS!!
more like over 4k after taxes
Me when I cope😂
Same here
like a boss
The shirt is FIRE. That's all.
Thanks. shout out to @Braintong for it
Facts
@BooredAtWork
Finally, an honest reviewer, who is not a greedy ios-sheep who are competing to $üç-áp deeper into the half-chewed Apple. I feel like that you are far more practical and financially responsible than MKBHD. People pay 3,5k for an excellent vr screen which doesn't have (data) ports, controllers and you will be forced to use only the ios ecosystem, which is smooth but constantly overpriced and the customers are constantly forced to upgrade the MacBooks and iPhones due to older ios devices are blocked working.
Okay, Windows and Android are also kind of rivals, but they learned to work together. More freedom less chains. Apple is like a cult, like Scientology: they try to chain you to their system and force you to pay more and more ... while trying to evade taxes every possible way and selling you overpriced products and denying warranty repairs and 3rd party repairs, too. If you, the reader, are rich, then continue supporting the greedy rich billionaire company. Their smooth and visually pretty ux is just a carrot for us, the donkeys.
If you are not that rich or you don't like to spend so much money, then keep away from Apple stuff.
I'm more interested in that shirt
i drop by for the shirt, the review is cool though, my Quest 2 with dual monitors does most of those features with less clarity. i say wait for 2025 unless you have plenty of cash to play with. Badass shirt....Magneto version?
I think one thing I don't see alot in some of these reviews is the ecosystem....as someone that doesn't have any Apple products I would need to spend $3500 on a Vision pro....I need an iphone if I want to use Facetime/Messaging on there, I need a Macbook if I want to take advantage of their "look at your screen feature". That is like 10k or something. not including all the services. That is the part I just don't like about Apple they just try to wall you in so much. This thing looks freaking awesome and hope Quest can make something to compete with some of this stuff. I know quest 3 can already do alot of this and before Vision pro came out there were people going to coffee shops in the Quest. But unless you are already in the Apple ecosystem it just doesn't make real sense to get one of these.
Yeah, but I bet you are not their target audience for this device. However hopefully it brings more light to VR\AR devices and we get something like this but for android\windows ecosystem, so you can choose
Hey, shut up and give us all your money. Now! 😅
americans (in this case the company because its primary target audience is americans) assume everyone uses Apple, because a big part of their population uses Apple products.
but for the rest of the world its not like that, so I agree with you
Welcome to the Apple Eco-System lol...
That's why it's called Apple Vision PRO, the buyers are PRO at wasting money
The quest 3 is the better headset in my opinion, but the vision pro will help push the VR/XR industry forward and has the potential to greatly improve with software updates and more apps, we'll see what apple comes out with in the coming months.
The controllers make it a win.
@@fdwrControllers with no Steam VR support is still a loss.
Exactly! It's just that apple has such brand strength. You can imagine what would have happened if meta released a 3.5k device instead
for real, it would've been totally ignored! haha
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@@fdwr I like not having controllers. To play complex games well on the Quest you need to pair a controller anyways. To play simple games, you could use your hand but the Quest tracking is so bad that they don't work well. If those games were ported to the AVP with the better hand tracking, theoretically, they would be better. Time will tell.
As someone interested in developing apps and exploring the spatial computing thing, I bought the Quest 3 and I'm very happy with it. I'm not an Apple hater, but I just think that you don't gain that much from the Vision Pro compared to Quest 3 right now. The big thing here is the mixed reality experience, the spatial computing thing, and both deliver that. I'll wait the industry evolve before spending a lot of money on a device like this.
How is the movie experiece on the Quest 3 for you?
Spatial
@@weirdbutcool78 I really like it. I like to lay on my bed and watch a movie in full screen with black environment, it's really immersive and the screen is big, curved and has great resolution.
@@reggierodriguez6546 thanks, everyday is a good day to improve English haha
For me when it comes to comparing and "What does this headset bring to the table". The vision has to bring 7 times more to the table. 7 times the price means for me it simply has to bring 7 times more. Most videos (not this one). People keep talking about the vision like it's the only VR headset. They come out with things like "You can have a virtual desktop! You can watch TV on it!". Yeah you can do all that on the quest 3 for 7 times cheaper. So for me until vision is doing a LOT more for it's price tag. I just think the quest 3 is worth it more.
It's worse than that, considering you can't even access many apps without a compatible Apple computer to use as a base. Quest 3 might have it's own issues but at least Zuck keeps it to a self-contained product.
@@lordnikon4050 I mean my biggest issue is too many videos like i said. Keep acting like it's the only VR headset. Saying "look at all these things it can do" while listing all the things the quest 3 can also do.
You got to list things the quest 3 CAN'T do in comparison.
It’s not close to the same experience though. It comes down to whether you want to use something or not. Your 7 times comparison is silly since it’s just subjective bs. How are you going to measure whether something is 7 of 6.5 times something. Again, I would rather pay more for something I will actually use vs less for something I wouldn’t want to use and just is going to go in the closet. I have no desire to be jumping around in my living room playing a silly game. I want something I can actually get work done and consume content on.
@@lordnikon4050 You also need to look from the other perspective: I can't access my iOS and macOS apps on the quest. It's browser doesn't have my safari tabs, favorites and passwords, etc.. Also I can't work on my mac with the quest with a single click
@@ralexand56 I don't think you use Vision Pro all day for work and doesnt give you the value from it
Great comparison from someone with VR experience!
There are way too much "first time headset" reviews and we all know the first time you ever wear a headset is always awesome.
What experience? For the price of a vision pro, you can buy a quest 3 10 games and an amazing strap with extra battery and still save 1500$-2000$. Also you get controllers which you didn't need in the quest 2 even because hand tracking is a thing the quest 2 did. Why are reviewers stating the obvious .... a more expensive headset is better ... no shit really? It's embarrassing that the quest 3 is so close in so many cats for 1/7 th the price.
Yeah I was watching another AVP video a few minutes ago and I started thinking I don't really want to listen to anyone's opinion any more unless they make it clear they have previous experience with other current headsets.
@@PhilipPetkov What experience?
I was saying "someone with VR experience" like in "someone who's been working with other headsets"
Ahhh that makes sense @@Ni5ei
The fact he thinks there's going to be a Quest 4 this year means he doesn't really know what he's talking about.
I couldn't justify paying $3500 for Apples device when the Quest 3 is $500 and way more games and features. Maybe the next version of the Vision Pro once they get to that point but right now its not worth the money.
The quest 3 is better in my opinion. When you talked about the desktop for working I was kinda mad when you didn’t talk about the compatibility the quest 3 has as it is about to connect to both windows and the mac.
This all depends on the use. If you use a Macbook for work, then the AVP is great. If you use a PC, then yes, the AVP won't work well for now. I play games in full FPS by mirroring my Macbook and then remote connecting to my gaming PC. It is actually pretty fast and responsive. It isn't ideal though and I would love to have direct connection to my PC. If they just made it also accept direct USB-C support, I would love it even more.
@@saoirsethewanderer you say if I wanna work on my Mac with the Vision Pro then it is great. But how great is it when I can only use one window? It isn’t like I can create 3 virtual displays for my Mac. So it is kinda just as limited as one physical display
@@kevinlittletechit isn’t about how many windows you can make. I have a Q3 with Immersed and just can have 5 windows, but it doesn’t really help me more productive. It is about immersion and the ability to add iPad apps and native apps individually outside of the main window. The one screen with the resolution it is is enough to have tons of things open. Your eyes can’t focus on too many side by sides at once and eventually it is all in the sides of your eyes anyways.
So, to me, if I want to experience AR/VR now, get a Quest 3. Use that until Apple Vision Air comes out.
Pretty much
yeah I think this is the best bet. vision pro is mostly for the developer
@@TechnobikerIDVision pro is for people who have a complete apple ecosystem. If you're not a hard fan of Apple, you will be very limited. I'm a dev, i dev mobiles apps, not VR apps but If I had to do it I certainly wouldn't do it on the vision pro at least for the moment because the public is far too limited mainly because of the price.
@@This_is_Elzed and TechnobikerID, I don't even see how vision pro is a developer device. I'm a developer too. I want the vision pro to do development things, but I get slightly peeved when I see people say it is for developer. Just because it's an expensive first gen device doesn't mean it's for developer in my opinion. I think apple just wants to sell to whover wants and can afford it. I feel like there's not really a such thing as developer device anymore. But that's just what I think of it. I'm just one guy
@@cwash08i think he meant that it’s meant for developers to use to develop apps FOR it rather than on it. if you’re an average user and you aren’t trying to create apps for it, the Vision Pro just isn’t worth it atm. however, if you’re making apps for it or you’re deep in the Apple ecosystem, then you might get some good use out of it that no other headset has.
Was doing the dishes and watching this in the Q3 128 for 499 I have since 5 months now, in Skybox' MR view, 27" screen always in front of me while seeing all the things I need to grab, clean, store...
How do I set up walk thru on meta 3?
Doing the fkn dishes and watching this GET A LIFE!!
When I buy a headset today, I'm interested in what I can do with it NOW, what apps are available for it NOW and how much fun I can have with it NOW. With the Visison Pro, I keep hearing "It will definitely be able to do that at some point. At some point you'll get that for the Vision Pro too" Okay, then you can wait until the Vision Pro actually has it and can do it. I don't have to spend a lot of money now and then wait for what I want to come at some point or never. I'd rather buy a Quest 3 for which there is a lot of software and which has so many users that I can actually have fun with it in a community in VR and have social experiences. The Vision Pro, on the other hand, is more of a first-person headset in which you are very much alone, which socially excludes you instead of enabling new social contacts like the Quest 3 can.
Exactly, paying 4k for an unfinished product is just crazy...
I am a VR veteran who has been an enthusiast since 2016,. and I have had every Oculus headset except the way overpriced not worth your money, Pro. I have also had the HTC Vive, and for a short time the PSVR. Without even watching this video, I already know the answer for a 100% fact. The Quest 3 is a steal for $500 and you get everything you could ask for to game and run social and media apps. Apple Vision is for rich business people who want the latest and greatest in the new niche space of spatial computing or having a headset for a monitor. It is designed as a workspace to run all of your ipad apps, iphone apps or media in 2d just like on your regular devices except your 2d apps which stay 2d are in a 3d setting within the headset. It has the best quality passthrough on the market right now, but has zero software to make a purchase worth it. The Vision Pro is nice hardware but there is very little to no software that utilizes the hardware of the headset and your paying close to 4K with tax for the privilege, when the Quest 3 is 1/8 the price and can run both dedicated Quest 3 AAA Games and apps from the Oculus Meta store, but also connect to your PC to play PC VR games from the same store and also the Steam VR store. There is no contest the Quest 3 is the winner by miles.
first of all, there are already solutions for vision pro PCVR, and the creator of virtual desktop working on a vision pro version. But if you owned every oculus headset, you should know how the quest 1 launched. Very few titles, not really a solution to use with pcvr, and meta was against it at first. also you should know about the company version of the quest 1, which had no spying and user data selling unlike the consumer version, and it had twice the price. Also you should know about the terrible business tactics of meta, and how they managed to make developers being interested in the quest platform (let me help you, meta bought the developers attention with a lot of money)
@@nagyFerko First of all let me tell you, that I am fully aware of Meta/Facebook as a company and I neither like them nor trust them, but if your foolish enough to think for a moment that Apple is different when it comes to tracking and privacy issues, and that they are the good guys, then you are a fool and are going to be in for a rude awakening when all is said and done. When the Quest 1 first launched It already had a lot of games and apps most of which were ports from both the Rift CV1 and the Oculus Go which I both owned. What sucked was not lack of content but having to repurchase content I already owned on the other Oculus headsets since they each had their own separate store. But your comparison is moot as the Quest 1 was around $300 if I remember correctly which was very affordable but the 4K for the Vision Pro with next to no software at present and gaming not at all on the horizon and not something Apple is interested in pursuing, I ll stick with evil Meta for now. Your paying Apple 4K for the privilege of basically wearing an iPad on your face
@@BaritoneUkeBeast4Life no one said that Apple didn’t gather data from the user, but the difference is how they use it, and how often they could get hacked. First one of the main income for meta is the user data, while Apple uses it for its own purposes. Also I’ve heard way more about Facebook user data leaks than Apple user data leaks. Yes, the Vision Pro more expensive then the quest 3, but didn’t sell your data. Have way better screen, speaker, performance. And it even got steam vr support so you can game if you are a kid who can only uses a computer for games. And I am also a quest 2-3 user. Had a quest 1 too. But still see why is there a big price difference.
@@nagyFerko And how do you know 100% how Apple is using our data for it’s own purposes? And just because you may have heard more reports about data leaks from FB doesn’t mean that Apple has had less, just that YOU haven’t heard as many. So that just means that Apple has had less as far as YOU know. But for $h!ts and giggles lets just say that your right and that in the past year Apple had 5 data leaks to Meta’s 10, does that change anything? A data breach is a data breach and all it takes is one. Apple which used to be small potatoes and not worth the time or effort of h@cking compared to Microsoft has now become one of the biggest companies in the world with at least half the worlds population as its user base, and are now a data base ripe for the picking, pun intended. The Bottom line is you don’t really know what Apple is doing with your data or who they may be sharing it with. You are only taking their word on it. The Vision Pro is essentially a first gen beta for rich folks who have money to burn, and anyone in the tech industry will tell you, it is a bad investment to purchase first gen tech as it is still in its infancy, it doesn’t have the support or content from devs in regards to software and will be replaced by a much improved and superior model by the time the software and apps start catching up. So by the time there is enough decent software for the Vision Pro, the Vision Pro 2 will be on the market and you will need to buy a new 4K headset. So far the Quest line of headsets have all been backwards compatible and upgrading to a $500 headset is way less painful than upgrading to a 4K headset each generation. Oh and you will notice companies like Google, UA-cam, and Netflix to name but a few have declined having any dedicated apps for the Vision Pro, as it currently isn’t worth their time or investment.
My wallet says its not an option
Vision Pro is good for people who have money
Quest is good for people who don't
Easy
@@NewSmithsonian Not that simple though, if you're a gamer for example the quest is easily the best option even if you can afford the vision pro.
@@andresvalenzuela160 true
If the cheap stock headstrap with the Quest 3 is more comfortable than the Vision Pro, then image how the Quest 3 with a BoboVR S3 would compare.
Just got the s3. Comfy but slightly heavy
@@simpl3lang Does the weight make it feel uncomfortable after a while? If you had the M3 earlier, then how does this compare?
@@aditya_on_youtube i ddnt have the m3. But i did have the m2 on my quest2 and if i recall correctly ...the m2 was lighter
Watching this in Skybox MR mode on a Q3 128 for 499 with a 3rd party BoboVR M3 copy from GOMRVR while making the dishes and having some wine.
@@simpl3lang been thinking about getting one too. does the fan on the front tank the battery?
I can always tell when people haven't actually used their Quest 2/3 much. The giveaway is that they are still using the standard floppy head strap. For $30-$50 they could have vastly upgraded their experience with even the worst aftermarket head strap.
I use the stock strap and I use my Quest 3 for around half an hour every other day. I’m bald though so that’s probably why it’s comfortable for me lol
It's like they are selling it with a jock strap mounted on it. Seriously! That's the stock strap 😂
The fact that he thinks there's going to be a Quest 4 this year is also a good indication that he doesn't really know what he's talking about.
I use my quest for 1-2 hours / day almost daily and it's not bad still. Since the quest was quite an investment for me I'm not planning on getting a strap just yet, but it's not a bad experience even with the stock strap
As a Quest 3 user for 2 months, I have beat saber sessions that lasts from half an hour to even 1.5 hours per day for almost every day (2 hours and above during a cold day and I got a type-c charging cable running under my clothes to the headset so that my hands don't yank the cable), and I take it off whenever I felt the cushion is too soaked up with sweat. That stock head strap served me decently well, and I honestly still have no need to upgrade.
Bummer that the quest 3 capture looks so low res. It’s not like that in the headset, text is sharp and resolution is pretty great overall despite being lower than the APV.
You can change that in the settings actually.
That is a very important comment you made. Every time I saw comparisons, I would be thinking like "I can't with that quality".
Why don't the "just get a Quest 3" crowd mention this more often!?
I was planning to get the Vision Pro, but now I want both
@TalkTechSAGA apple need to review the price!
it would look better if he used a better capture program/method than what hes using
@@derrickdmvHow?
The best review I've seen. Yes, we're waiting for the thin glasses or the not so popular choice of chip implants. But, of course we can't handle these products like we're used to from cellphones and PCs
Quest 3 anytime. Not worth $3500 , fewer features and you have to carry an external battery with you, it isn't April fools yet 😂
Oculus quest 3 is better
Yeesss
Very good video! Been living with the quest 3 and I honestly can’t wait to try vision pro
Thanks bro. It's an experience. I will say apple brings clean software and share visuals
The clarity of AVP is better to me in my opinion
First time I've come to your channel. You do a great job an explaining and visualizing your points. Love it! Subscribed.
Thank you
You know that mall scene in Minority Report? I already see walking into a mall and seeing targeted hologram ads while wearing a VisionPro 😁
Wrong. Apple has a lot less advertising than the competition.
maybe but still advertising
@@bobweiram6321
Maybe, Apple will certainly advertise to you as soon as you walk into their store, right now they just use displays and people. But it's the 3rd party apps that will advertise the most. As soon as you install food app or clothing store or whatever those apps will advertise to you. @@bobweiram6321
i see it more likely to happen with a quest ha
Don't forget about the smaller FOV on the Vision Pro
lets go baby
Slightly. Not really noticeable, I own both.
@@codygarcia9296 in fov, it's GOTTA be bigger at every upgrade. I can't go from a big fov to a smaller one. Just not happening
@@bobtruck1594it’s not a downgrade though I can assure you it looks the exact same. However it’s definitely not an upgrade.
@@codygarcia9296 I tried the Vp from a friend. It's definitely smaller fov than quest3. Removing the face crushing does bring it closer if not the same as Quest3. Kinda bummer.
Everyone should look into what meta is working on , the realistic avatars and the focusing , it's way ahead of apple .
Kodak Avatars are very exciting.
Meta’s new avatars (or atleast the one that’s been shown) was taken and scanned in a multi million dollar machine. Apples is taken from the headset.
@@codygarcia9296thank you mate
@@codygarcia9296 they've already released videos on scans taken with a phone.
@@codygarcia9296 and they look like that to
Quest 3 has 4xvr and full MVC decoding, which is a must-have since that enables blu-ray 3d playback, the best thing you can do with a vr headset!
Just be honest and say it's not worth $3,500
easy:
vision pro: better materials, 2024, better design, better ecosystem and 3500$
quest 3: better for gaming, better built-in battery, better functionality, unlimited things to do with it and 500$
it's obvious that the vision pro has that better things, it costs 7 times the quest 3
One major problem is that the Apple vision pro is quite fragile. It scratches very easily.
I did a Apple Vision Pro demo the other day and I just used the regular band and for the whole 25 or so minutes I not once noticed any discomfort. Are you maybe overtightening it a bit?
The biggest thing I'm looking for in passthrough headsets is the ability to watch movies and other streaming content on a virtual screen in a fixed location in my physical space, and can replace my physical TV. When they get there, then I can start to go all in on this technology.
I believe the Apple Vision Pro does this.
They both do
@@shonubijoye9196 Well, until I see a video that shows this, I'm holding off until it happens. If you know of a video, feel free to reply with a link and a timestamp. Until then, here's waiting for virtual TVs in our physical space.
I just recently purchased the Q3 a month ago.. Then went to demo the Vision Pro... Very disappointed with the Vision Pro. The Pro is 5 times the price over the Q3, but the FOV for for that price point isn't worth it.. For the money they should have done more... Better Value for the dollar - Q3 hands down..
Based on your comments, it seems like the Q3 is like a 3 star HS football recruit who ultimately is pushing everything out of his abilities and potential and might even be re-graded as a low 4.0 star, based on what he has actually done.
And the AVP is like that 5 star recruit who's just arrived on campus and the future is wide open. But he hasn't actually done anything yet at the collegiate level, apart from some workouts and practices. But what you see so far is very promising. But that's what it is: A promise. There's no telling what the future will hold. But, if trends hold, wow, he's gonna be a knockout. At some point in the future.
My first video on your channel, your voice is perfect for the way you film this. New subscriber earned!
Just discovered him too. He's definitely going somewhere with his voice and personality
@@SuperBayara w voice
W presenting
W knowledge
W filming
@@hex1795 he's already international. I'm in Kenya. And all my Kenyan friends are gonna know about him🤣🤣
Apple price their products outrageously claiming its premium. The annoying part is that, Apple does not optimize their software and Apps. These occupy thorn of spaces on the devices. Especially, videos, 5 minutes video can take 2GB space
Great content, thank you for your effort. I just ordered my Meta Quest 3 a few hours ago.
What people truly seek in VR/AR devices is the clarity of experience that matches what we're accustomed to with PC monitors or TVs. The ability to work or play with visuals that are crisp and immersive without strain is key. It's not just about being in a virtual world; it's about seamlessly integrating that world with our real-life expectations of quality and comfort. Manufacturers who nail this aspect will truly lead the next leap in VR/AR technology.
I've heard other people say the exact opposite on comfort... everyone's head is different, so best to try them out yourself to figure out what is comfortable for you.
Whatever.. 7 times cheaper
@@JN-ft1vo There are many things in the world where something that is barely better is MUCH more expensive. That's how things work... just saying take the subjective parts and find out yourself on how it works for you.
@@AyaWetts not on technic. It's not a Louis Vitton
@@JN-ft1vo by your opinion maybe... There is a lot better about the Apple, even if its very minor. But like comparing a Honda and a Mercedes... the car might be 10% nicer (and some of that and more is subjective), but does that mean it should be 300% the price? Its how things happen.
The Mercedes is also much less reliable and much more expensive in terms of maintenance and repairs than the Civic.
I remember people walking around with massive headsets on their head for the first time. Now it's normal. I think that this is going to be the same thing with AR/VR glasses/headsets.
people spent $4000 on a VR head set that dsnt even play vr games .....for the same price you can get an amazingly powerful pc and 3 meta quest 3's
For non-gamers, it’s irrelevant.
Not everyone cares about gaming, you know
For software engineer/developer AVP isn't that much useful rn
@@lolololo-cx4dp speak for yourself. I get tons of usage out of it.
the funny part is that even for non gaming the quest is doing better that the avp, i mean it has no apps, just promises
quest ar or for productivity alrdy have developed tools
I m stay with Zakerburg, i love him
As simple as this:
1. Quest 3 does everything Vision Pro does but worse
2. Vision Pro doesn't do everything Quest 3 does
Which means it's like comparing a Ferrari to BMW car, in other words Ferrari will never be better value than BMW (ignoring resale value)..... So winner in terms of value always will be Quest 3 by far
I hope this comment didn't make anyone dizzy
No, the ONLY things the Vision Pro doesn’t do better are things that the Vision Pro was NEVER advertised for… like VR gaming. You can play traditional games but nothing more.
@@powerhouse884that's exactly what he said. I don't know what you're disagreeing with. 🤔
That's the perfect analogy! I'm going to use it in my conversations, if you don't mind. 😉
It's worst than that, Apple Vision Pro does very few things that any other Apple product does.
the quest three doesn’t do eye tracking
First time being on your chanel, I must say you just talk and calmly explain the things is very captivating. Overall nice vibes! Subbed immediately
Small note, the quest 3 can have 3 screens of your pc with WorkRoom or other apps! Compared to 1 on the apple vision.
Nice video btw. :)
Thanks
but it's capped out at 3 always! you can get way more windows with the VP
@@nfrankiksa4596 That's a fair point!
I'm sure that VP will let you pop out window from your main PC screen in no much time too. :P (I hope)
Is wearing the vr headset all the time effects your vision??
Is watching tv from close distance effects your eyes ?
Are we having any studies to see if it’s bad for health ?
So manny questions 🎉🎉
I have half quest 3, I think the same goes for Apple vision pro, it doesn't hurt your health, it doesn't hurt your eyes, you get used to it afterward
If I had the choice between ONE apple vision pro or 7 Meta Quest 3s, I know what I'm picking
Lol I like how you did that
Yea, me2. ONE Apple Vision Pro, because who is gonna use 7 headsets??
@@mich977fA family. Friends. Lots of games to play together. And who wants to share.
@@mich977ffor all your family 😂
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I tried an AVP and instantly started making plans to buy one, but I thought I should at least try the Quest 3 first and probably send it back. I got it and kept it, cause it really does enough of what the AVP can for 1/7th of the price. Also, more weight, less comfort, that awkward external battery and not being able to easily load my local movie files onto the AVP were all dealbreakers. Thanks for the great comparison (and the funny bloopers!)
On Quest 3 u also have virtual environments/homes he dident talk about
When it comes to productivity, concept and a workflow Vision pro wins. They intentionally made it expensive or else no one will buy or upgrade their mackbook, imac.
Let’s be honest. If you buy the AVP what’s another $500 for a Quest 3 to play games?
I think to choose, you have to ask yourself which one has what you WANT MOST, available to play/use. I personally am looking for virtual reality fitness apps, and lucky for me, Meta Quest 3 for five hundred coins seems to cover this area thoroughly. I appreciate the effort and time you took to make this video friend.
On AVP u dont have haptic feedback whatever u touch, pinch or do, also a smaller vertical field of few compared to Quest 3, worse distributed weight and an external battery, come on Apple, is that the best u could do for that price?
on the quest 3, you have no haptic feedback while using handtracking, also the screen is at an angle to make the FoV that big, makes it less sharp then it should be. lower resolution and lower battery time while using Passtrough. and Meta only able to sell the quest so cheap, because they are spying on users and selling their data, quest 1 had a version without spying for companies, and it had twice the price. (and i had a quest 1, and currently owning a quest 2 and 3)
@@nagyFerko The first Quest was more expensive because it had OLED displays, a more premium headband and materials and a continius eye space slider, while Quest 2 only had LCD and only 3 eye space settings and cheap headband.
Screen at an angle to achieve higher FOV wtf are u talking about? Hand tracking is an optional input method, the prinar, is with the precise VR controllers with haptic feedback. Also the batterytime is usually longer on Quest 3 as most can use the additonal headstrap with an additional battery for even better comfort and longer battery usage.
@@lightstorm6652 you can check how the quest 3’s screens are angled. What you are saying about the quest 1 is true, that’s why do quest 2 launched at a cheaper price then the consumer quest 1, but it’s still spying and stealing you data just as the quest 1 did. And saying that you can get better battery time with the quest 3 if you use an external battery is true, but then you can do the same with the Vision Pro.
If you really believe that Meta can make a vr headset with a built in high end android phone cheaper then what a comparable pcvr headset cost, you are just delusional. Meta sells your data. They are doing it on Facebook, instagram, and on the quest. Only on the quest you have no option to turn it off unlike on an iPhone where you have a toggle if you don’t want those apps to track you.
And you cant wear glasses with the apple vision pro which you can with the quest 3
I gotta agree that I think the Xreal glasses are my preferred method of AR. I didn't know how much I'd like them but they've been a GAME CHANGER. I use them practically every night in bed to play my Steamdeck or watch a movie.
"Take that off I need my husband back", I'm dying! 😂😂😂
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I own a Quest 3 and it can do everything that Apple Vision Pro does except for eye tracking. May be the picture quality is slightly compromised but all in all, this it is well worth the money you spend for nearly 7 times cheaper than Apple headset. But i'm sure most Apple fan boys will still praise the price point.
"I own a Quest 3 and it can do everything that Apple Vision Pro does"- That's the problem doing the same things has nothing to do with how good you are doing it or the Experience of doing it. Android has done this for 10 to 15 years and Users have always complained that the user experience was poor. It's Like an Audi vs a Honda civic "they do the same thing" but the experience is night and day.
@@RogerJoseph I won't deny that. I'm sure it is much better experience on Vision Pro. The same principle can be applied to many of the tech. An average GPU can run a game in medium settings while a high end GPU can run it in incredible visuals. Both get the same gaming experience, but 1 of them has a much better visual experience at a much higher price.
If I really have the money, they is no bargain, am going for Vision Pro, even the recording shows the Vision pro is just better, but for now the Meta quest 3 is an entry level exprience
I went with the AVP, but I think this is a really great take. I’m not a big fan of Meta/Facebook, but if you don’t have a problem with the company, the Quest 3 is a great value (partially because Meta subsidies it like Facebook, which is what I don’t like) and much better for gaming. I stick with my Index for VR gaming, which isn’t as good of a headset as Quest 3 but a better company imo, but even the Index is pretty pricey.
It’s all money vs gaming right now. Now if Meta can release their next pro or quest line with near Apple Pass through then it’s more of a comparison. That being said, I’m sure the Quest 3 is still awesome. But I’m super intrigued by what they release next. Can they compete with Apple without an external battery etc. This will be entertaining either way.
One has a large library of VR software, one does not.
dont compare the 2... if you want VR it costs $500... if you dont want VR it costs $3500.....
@@Ray-dl5mp but dont forget, Quest Pro 2 will be PCVR compatible and have every VR game in the Oculus library...
The difference isn't worth the $3000 difference probably a $1500 is fair
My take is this: If you care about gaming, get the quest 3 or 2. if you are a fan of the apple ecosystem you can get the vision pro but it's better to wait for a version 2.
If meta wants to compete with the vision pro, they should release a quest 3 pro. similar to their first pro head set(which flopped hard) , better displays and a better processor with built in features like eye tracking. the quest line was always meant to be an affordable option for people to enter vr and the "metaverse" while their pro line up was targeted at businesses and professionals.
Meta just needs micro OLED. That was all I was waiting for but meta really let me down. Apple showed them how to do it, so now I don't want to see another LCD in any Quest Pro headset from now on.
@@dtz1000you and me both. I was really tempted not to upgrade when I saw they hadn't upgrade to microOLED or even just OLED in the Quest 3. In terms of color the Quest 1 beats the Quest 2/3 and that's sad.
It's coming they already have plan for it , they said will be release 2025 , and will be way cheaper that vision pro but of course maybe triple the price of quest 3. even samsung they will release there own headset
Quest 3 on top
00:16 🎮 The video discusses a comparison between the Vision Pro and Quest 3 VR headsets, focusing on hardware, design, comfort, software, applications, and gaming.
01:59 🛠 Vision Pro offers premium hardware with features like M2 and R1 chips, eye tracking, and spatial audio, but its external battery design might be inconvenient for some users.
03:39 🎭 Quest 3 boasts a more gaming-centric design with a plastic build and offers a comfortable fit with its standard VR headband.
05:56 🖥 Vision Pro's software provides a smooth and intuitive experience with an iPad-like interface and advanced features like depth sensing, while Quest 3's software feels more traditional but functional.
08:20 📱 Quest 3 currently has a larger library of applications and games compared to Vision Pro, making it a more versatile option for users.
11:05 🎮 Quest 3 offers a superior gaming experience with a wide variety of games and better tactile controls, while Vision Pro's gaming capabilities are still evolving.
15:29 💰 The decision between Vision Pro and Quest 3 ultimately depends on individual preferences and budget, with both devices offering unique features and experiences.
thanks
Vision Pro will improve in posterior generations, at the moment, it's only for pro users, to start to develop applications. Quest 3 is perfect as it is as of now. But competition will improve both.
no vr headset is perfect. waiting for the implant
came here to say the same thing. Quest3 for now. But, the tune may change in the next couple of years.
You don't know if it will improve stop being an enabler
That doesn't make it any less shitty than now 😂
Excellent video! I have the Quest Pro, 3 and Apple Vision Pro. As a non-gamer with an Apple ecosystem, I run home to use my Apple Vision where my Quests collect dust. I’m looking forward to additional apps for productivity and more entertainment that takes advantage of it. The battery size shocked me as it looks like a giant external hard drive. But despite interesting uses we’ve seen on the go, I think this is primarily for static use so while sitting or in bed and with the holster, I’ve gotten used to it. I also prefer the original band with a slap cap on my head.
Now be honest... when you just got the Quest, didn't you run home to that as well? I know I did.
You said you run home to use the vision pro instead of the Quest. You spent $3500 on the AVP. Whay are you using it for? I mean, because you said you run home to use it.
this is another reason why Im sticking with my quest 3. The only apple product that I have is a five plus year old iphone, so I don't see the point of getting an apple vision pro. I would get this cool technology but for an ecosystem that I don't otherwise live in. I can use the quest app on my pc to interact with my computer in bigscreen. I think that quest is built to work with pcs and AVPs are built to work with apple products, and so I think that I should stick with the quest.
@@NBGUYVER "You said you run home to use the vision pro instead of the Quest." - There is no reality where you understand the AVP is a better device that consumers enjoy more. The sentiment of the writer is exactly what makes the AVP surpass the Quest. The experience is very different. Literally every person whos posted a video on this has said the same thing yet you're like "defying the ods". Good luck with that.
I play games like beat saver and drums on Q3 512 gb but my go to watching movies and 3D movies is the Vision Pro 1 tb ...... When in doubt just get both of them.... It's no different than having a car or an SUV and/or a motorcycle, they all do the same thing, get you from point A to point B.....it's just how do you want to get there...
Bruh.. 3500 ? What do u gain
Exactly. This same issue comes up each time there’s new, expensive tech.
@loitersquadx8590 you gain he same capable device what only the quest 3 + a decent laptop (for M2 performance level of dedicated GPU, since the integrated GPU is very limited in performance, and you need to connect to a PC to improve it) + 7.1 sound system (for the similar experience like spatial audio, alias for the built in 3D sounds in the Vision Pro).
If you spend money on each that is not too far from the $3500, but it's much harder to carry all of them instead of the much smaller Vision Pro with all of this inside.
@@TamasKiss-yk4st I don't think 3500 is Worth it for a 2 hour device. That's stupid. This doesn't do anything. You can FaceTime which is already a thing. You can game but not very heavy. I'm just so confused what is this for. The oculus is VR. The oculus lets you do everything this does for the most part. UA-cam. Which is still confusing to me. Gaming is the main thing, exercise, maybe video calling, and sporting events like the NBA , or NFL have the cool seats. Maybe a certain movie that utilizes that tech. Again you don't need apple. Apple charges so much for tech that's not worth it
I feel like saying the quest is just for gaming is selling it short. you got tons of other productivity and media viewing apps as well, it does spatial computing for a fraction of the price of the AVP and has a massive gaming library to boot.
It's all marketing babyyyy!
If you don't constantly tell people they can do that stuff on your hardware, they won't do it.
Watching this on my quest 3 😉
can we watch 3d sbs movies on quest 3 ?
@@youtubebrowser1730 sorry but no you cannot. It’s against the law
you can indeed@@youtubebrowser1730
You completely left out the spatial video that you can create with an iPhone 15. Imagine filming your kids first birthday party in spatial video and being able to go back and immerse yourself fully in the moment, 10-15-20 years from now. It’s deeper than just 3D. It’s like you’re right there… in the mix of it. Right in the middle of it. That has such a powerful emotional impact, that feature alone is a killer app of the Vision Pro.
Waiting till 2-3 versions away for Vision Pro 2-3
No just compare two totally different headsets one being a generation 7 or whatever and one being a generation one and give stupid subjective opinions on it. Nobody talks about what Apple just brought to the table has changed the game entirely
@@IEA_455Apple bring to the table a 1st generation at 3500$, don't expect the futures generations to be on lower price. iPhone prices goes up every years, this will be the same with the headset. We will end up with a vision pro 3rd gen with a price of 4500-5000$ lol
@@IEA_455 You see when the groundwork has already been fully laid out and all the technology advanced, entering a market like those new chinese EV manufacturers which are on par with any big car manufacturer on the 200th generation of cars, is quite simple and apple has not done a single thing that is new, its done the same stuff, sometimes worse and just put an expensive CPU with expensive screens and expensive cameras in a block of aluminum. theres better screens on some headsets, theres better lenses on some and theres better passthrough on some. Its just that the others know that you dont try making a master of none work. Apple can get away with it, cuz their customers sniff lead paint.
Vision pro has "tons of possibilities" you can't even use yet & it's at 3.5k, yet Quest 3 tons of possibilities you can already use for just $500.
As usual, one company started out by producing some expensive frame and the other by making real productive and efficient product we were looking for at even a reasonable/ cheaper price.
The Meta Quest 3 is a VR gaming console, while the Vision Pro is a stand alone spatial COMPUTER comparable to an iPad Pro with significantly better cameras for 4K immersive capture. Plus you can see your actual environment through the lenses…
If I had purchased an Studio Display with tilt and height adjustment, it would have cost over $2K, and a coupe of good quality monitors to flank it, I would have spend another five to seven hundred for each for a total of $3,000 - $3,400. Two Studio Displays would have cost over $4K, and three would have cost over $6K…
The Vision Pro was well worth the price (1TB | Battery | VP Case | plus another Light Seal), and thus far having a great time exploring the possibilities. It totally feels like a whole new paradigm shift in computing. I can lay in bed or on the floor and use the entire ceiling as a workspace, and overall it would be better for me ergonomically and for my posture…
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🙌🏽 Those comparing it too much to a gaming console are missing the point. I put off replacing my secondary TV in favor of waiting for the Apple Vision Pro. It didn’t disappoint.
Obviously, you haven't tried one yet. It's like a heavy iPhone Pro Max hanging off your forehead. Also, when connected to a Mac, you'll have only ONE screen.
I love how people have literally taken Apples marketing terminology for their VR headset and say it with SUCH conviction. As if we all seem to have known what "spatial computing" was our whole damn lives.
By spatial computing if you mean putting screens in the air, then every MR devices can do that.
It’s called Mixed Reality not that bullshit SC Apple likes to call it
A couple of years ago I started using a Mac to work, so that made want to give it a try to an iPhone as well. I loved the integration and how things are so much easier when you have all things apple. That being said, 3500 is just too much. I hope apple comes up with a cheaper version in the future though
The biggest problem with the vision pro is the same problem PC VR had a small audience so little buyers which leads to software developers not being motivated to create.
I don't think they will have a developer problem
@@BooredAtWork well we will see . I hope apple can create a need for the headset. Meta found their need through games. Apple decided to create its own needs.
That’s for big risky expensive games for fickle audiences. The AVP isn’t a gaming device. The Iphone/Ipad app developers will more than likely just add a vision pro team to their company. Probably a year before we really have any kind of idea what developers are going to do with this thing.
@@74Spyderman as a owner of the first oculus rift headset, almost everything that we are doing now was first developed on pc VR. As a VR enthusiast I truly hope Apple succeeds. I also want Apple to truly understand what the situation actually is. I don't want VR to be declared dead again because Apple got into a market it didn't understand. Meta have been putting money in VR for years without a profit. The reason Meta is doing this is because they understand that they are creating something new with limitless potential. The tech and technology is not quite at the point of mass adoption. But with every new use and new hardware break through we are getting closer and closer. The VR headset is the only device that could actually totally replace the Smart phone. Instead of phone calls holograms become real. Instead of translation apps you could have English dub added to your conversation. An Al assistant could prep a whole date night for you in another state. Giving you details as a Holo Graham you can interact with like a virtual butler. Theirs nothing that can't be simulated. Mix reality technology will get better and better as computing powers grow. Changing how we learn, shop, virtual work, even how we rest and relax. Imagine going to mars on a 30 mars mission but now you can take walks with your wife after work. You can play here in a game of chess you can even go on movie dates. I just need Apple and its supporters to be patient with this technology it's worth the Wait.
PCVR has one really big problem, Meta. Meta made a lot of deal to make games exclusive, or excluise for months. Meta literaly bought companies to control them to only release games on the quest. and also, pcvr headset makers can't sell the headset at loss to then get back the money spying and selling user data (quest 1 had a version without spying for twice the price of the consumer one)
Its not about expensive or cheap,, the technology is new for us to explore and enjoy,, if we can manage grab one at an affordable price, why not to try the Quest 3??
Meta Quest 3 is good 😎😎😎😎😎😎
Great comparison!
I’m sure the Vision Pro will hugely increase the sells for Quest 3 😂🎉
Most essential question 🙋♀️ is:
Can I simply use any of them on my PS5 ⁉️ If the answer is no, so NO thanks😒
nobody really talked about the quest 3 till the Vision Pro came out🤣
Nobody talked about the Iphone untile Samsung came either🙄🙄🙄
That's funny... because I bought the Quest 3 back in November because I kept seeing videos pop up on my feed about it. Tons of hype and comments about it. The hype in the comment sections were/are intriguing. Enough for me to go out and buy it (my first ever vr headset). It blew my mind as it was my first vr experience. My brother came over and tried it... and I ended up buying him one for Christmas.
Long story short.... there were tons of people talking about the Meta Quest 3 well before the release of the Apple Vision Pro. And it is extremely popular. And because of the massive price difference alone...... there are going to be many more people using the Quest 3 than the Apple Vision Pro. The fact you can buy 7 Quest 3 headsets to 1 Apple headset is horrid.... and it will grossly hinder the success of its sales.
@@JuliusMacharia-oe1xu "Nobody talked about the IPhone until Samsung came either" - What are you smoking. Samsung phones were like a raindrop in a lake. No one notices it. Please don't play Like Samsung is a popular phone. All apples competition can be added up as one and apple will still have more devices sales than them. Out of all Android Samsung is the best I give it that credit but there's also reality.
@@RogerJoseph Maybe do some research before typing paragraphs of nonsense please.
@@RogerJoseph In the US, maybe. But the US is just a small part of the world.
Remember, the quest was made for the average person to get wide adoption at an affordable price, so they had to cut back on some things. Apple is at a high end price point and trying to compete with a $500 headset. They are two different types of headset for two different types of people. The vision pro should be compared to the high end VR headsets. The reason the quest sells so well is because it allows the average person to enter VR.
The Apple Vision Pro design is better looking but very very fragile as you can stracth the glass on the outside with a level 3 stratcher which makes it very fragile and yeah the screens are better but it has a lower field if view so you'll see less anyway lool plus I have the PSVR2 and that display is also incredible as it's a Sony display which is probably 1 step down from the Vision Pro as in its the 1st display to offer HDR that actually burns your eyes sometimes if your playing a game which has strong colours and sun flair effects etc and it also has eye tracking and a feature nonothwr headset has and that's the headset rumble so playing VR games is the best you can get in terms of immersion and actually feeling like your right there but for other things like watching UA-cam playing Mixed Reality games and producing music in Mixed Reality which Apple missed the mark in as they should have made Logic Pro X for this headset where you could have instruments and devices in Mixed Reality so you could have your virtual recording Studio anywhere in any environment like I can with my Quest 3 but apple decided not to put a headphone jack on the headset 😂😂😂 and I actually use my Quest 3 with my Apple products everyday and I don't have to spend $3,500 just to that
The outside isn’t even glass. It’s glasstic, Jerryrigseverything already did the durability test. The headset is literally made out of plastic
The problem is, while they may have the processing power, the Vision Pro limits itself in the input method they have chosen. Rather than using a more tactile hand tracking approach, they're essentially using your hand as a 3D mouse that's still disconnected from what you're doing in each app. I saw some videos of this being used in art and modeling software and it feels like a giant missed opportunity compared to similar apps already available on the Quest platform. Apple is going to have to reconsider how they handle their inputs for this type of device. They're already extremely limiting their options in both gaming and productivity, which kind of makes you wonder who is going to benefit from this enough to justify paying 7x the cost of devices that may be weaker and have a lower resolution, but have the capacity to offer the tactile feel that those markets benefit from. Graphics and processing power aren't going to be what drives the shift to "spacial computing", it will be the methods we use to close the gaps between the virtual and real environments. How we physically interact with the virtual is going to be one of the biggest determining factors in how practical and beneficial it will be to work in these environments. You want that to feel as natural as using physical media and tools and Apple simply doesn't deliver on that. Maybe moving forward they'll reconsider, but for now, they're still lagging behind.
I agree with most of what you said except for the Quest 3 is 4k do the math 2,064 x 2,208 pixels per eye. = 4,557,312 pixels per eye. Thats OVER 4k plus !!! Vision Pro is 5k plus..... You can also set your backdrops to be on the moon Q3 has a moonscape built in just need to dig deeper.
4k is over 4000 pixels in length. You've totally misunderstood what 4k means.
My man that is not what 4k is referring to, 4k does not mean pixel count. And the quest is like 4.5 million per eye and the Vision Pro is like 12.3 million per eye, nearly 3x the pixels per eye of the quest
@@GenghisGaming 4K in computer displays mean 4096 × 2160. It's *K* meaning a thousand. That combined with the aspect ratio of the display will give you the resolution of the display. By contrast, you won't know anything about knowing the total pixel count other than the fact that it's so high or low.
4K in TV means 3840 × 2160 and the reason for this is that it's resolution is exactly 4 times of Full HD resolution which is 1920 × 1080 which was also marketed as 2K as the pixel count of the length of the display is close to 2000. The real 2K is actually 2048 × 1080. Just as the real 4K which is also the quadruple of real 2K.
@@sriramsundar8388 its almost like the phrases don’t really mean anything whatsoever, its so nebulous and its definition changes by whoever you ask. For HMDs its much better to go off PPD
@@GenghisGaming I can see that, but I'm 100% positive that this is what Apple meant by 4k displays for each eye.
Vision Pro owner here, enjoy what you want, spend what you’re able. Thats the beauty of the era of VR we’re in. We finally have options for everyone
you forgot to mention the pcvr
if the reasons has a weight, being able to use PC-VR weighs a ton, it is a whole new platform, you play quality things with your *PC hardware* and i mean vr again
you can't do that in vision pro, the moment i knew that, it was a insta drop for me, mostly for gaming uses..
u can install literally any android app, but not directly tho, u need a pc
even psp or gamecube emulators, also gamepass can be installed on standalone q3
things to mention on the quest side
-there is also a office apps for android that works well
-bigscreen to see movies or local videos with friends or unkown ppl
-gravity sketch to draw 3d maps, or models
-sculp app for 3d modeling like blender etc
-native netflix, youtube, whatsapp on vr
-u can see 3d videos on any video player
-ar experiences like the dinosaur quest have a ton, the quest demo of shooting aliens, from put monsters or enemys to kill on your house to put aquariums on your walls, window etc...
vr windows in ar env and viseversa like the lego game..... coperative ar minigames with a friend close to your or not if u want table games or smthg, u can leave Widgets arround your house like the vision pro
-pianovision to play your real midi piano like a rythm game and learn it meanwhile
and all that is not a "promise" but something that u can do right now, and just for 500 euro
i experienced that promise situation 3 times and u can be sure that those promising apps will arrive the next gen of vision pro if u are lucky, and when they finally come out u will bored realy fast
about the vision pro
vision pro has better quality and hardware, no one can deny that, but that hardware is just air bcuz the visor totally dont use it, the only new aside of the screen quality and ecosystem is the eye tracking, and just the way of use it bc quest pro has that too, everything else u see there is already normal on quest since years ago
ppl on youtube are so boring with thier vision pro that they just walk arround putting youtube screens and open and closing the menu, i still didnt see any video of someone truly enjoying thier vision pro, like using it for real...
the hype is making ppl missusing the vision pro, is not for take outside, the lenses can focus the sunlight and burn the micropixels,
they are expecting something like ready player one but thats not the reality, vision pro is a consumer product to use in house too
u can use for work, but it isnt more convenient that a normal plane screen, it isnt more productive just bc u have multitasking, thats more distractive in fact,
even worse since is heavy for use in long periods and give pain in the eyes even if the screens are amazing, ofc its not for use 8hours everyday
i had to remember u that meta was also aiming to be a visor for work, but thats just dosnt work, and it naturally slowly turns into a gaming visor..
i wonder if that will be the case with the vision pro.... but it dosnt have controllers, the vision hand tracking is a little better that the q3 one, but still not realiable, play with your eyes i see that hard..
maybe it will turn into a expensive screen to play plane games and videos
avp is a 1:1 copy of the meta mirror lake prototype from 1y ago
Thanks for adding the bloopers at the end. Nice work. More people should definitely be doing that 😁
AVP = Too spensive.
Aliens vs Predators
its not meant for the average consumer its meant for developers etc. thats why its so expensive
@@ahmad.yousef1 Yep, so no point in a verses with the 1/7 priced Q3.
@@ahmad.yousef1 you meant like for coding?. I don't think so lol
@@lolololo-cx4dp no its meant that devs make apps and games and so on for it using the 3d space
bro, you need accessories for your quest 3.
it becomes a completely different device.
the extended batter changes everything.
Nintendo should have created a quest like VR headset after creating the original Nintendo Wii.
The video recording in your video of the quest 3 dosnt give it justice... The 500$ headset its amazing honestly
I like your video and the way you talk about it. I bought a Quest3 and am happy with it. I use it so much more than my Quest2 and even a lot more than my Pico4. The Vision Pro seems to have a plastic front and not a glass front... so apart from smudges, maybe over time, it will be full of scratches. We'll see in a few months how it all works out.
Just got the update 62 for my Quest and again a major improvement.
But anyway I would love to try a Vision Pro... just to see that dinosaur popping out of the screen. Would that be possible with the Quest, now we can see those spatial 3D videos in the Quest3 as well?
As someone who's been exclusively in the apple ecosystem for a long time, and also just picked up the quest 3, I think the possibilities are good for the vision pro. However, as a gamer, I've tethered the quest 3 to my imac and am able to seamlessly play mac os games. Plus the massive catalogue meta offers and constant updates, I'm extremely happy with the quest
Great presentation SIr. Are you keeping both? Also, what if you wear prescription glasses?
There are companies that make magnet attached prescription lenses for quest. Only like $50. I'm sure they'll do the same with regard to Vision Pro
The success of vision pro long term depends on the price because not many people will shell out 3500. And less people using it means less incentive to develop apps. Quest while not as polished can still improve with software updates and with apple as competition I think their next generation will be killer. When it comes to value it’s obviously the quest.
his value in Brazil is 36,000. Only Brazilian salary is 17,000 per year.
For me, a VR headset is nothing but a display that I strap on my head for a specific game or such. I will not have any headset on my head for every day usages like email, documents or watching a YT video.
This means that a PS4 headset or a Quest 3 on PC is the absolute max I need and what I pay for. Apple's $3500 headset might be awesome with a "it's all different" qualifier next to it. It however is completely useless for my VR needs (wants).
You have a very reasonable point about the matter - yes, the purpose of these technical devices is not to make man their slave.
Honestly it's wild to me that anyone can find the Quest 3 comfortable with that head strap. I even upgraded to the Elite strap and silicone face mask and still got raging headaches and sore cheekbones from the pressure. Swapped it out for a Kiwi headstrap and an AMVR face cover and it feels like I'm wearing a pillow on my head - it's a WORLD of difference. I'd expect the Vision Pro would probably require the same treatment although at that price point it really shouldn't (and neither should the Quest if you're buying the official upgrades).
This is interesting. Still, I believe for some of us, PCVR is one of the most important uses of such a device, and the Apple Vision apparently cannot work on that scenario... so for those PC players that already have good GPUs, then it's not even a contest: one works, the other doesn't.
I'm always surprised when I hear people comment about the Vision Pro looking better, WITHOUT acknowledging that it had BETTER look better at that price point. EVERY thing should be better at that price point.
your sweater is my favorite part of the video, worth buying over both of these devices :)
Quest pro 2 will capitalize. Most likely with higher quality cameras and screen tech that's really all they need. Then quest 4 will likely adopt the same tech later. The good thing is meta can make a quest pro 2 announcement anytime and whack apple off the market for a much cheaper headset. I had quest 3 and only thing I didn't like was the passthrough quality.
I don't know. Meta's marketing is complete trash no matter how great their products are, it will not sell well and all these hate spread against Meta ain't gonna help it neither.
Quest 2 is easily far miles away better than Nintendo Switch in many ways but it still doesn't sold nearly as well.
While Apple is the king when it comes to letting people know their products existed and what it does