STRIFE - THE BIG SCORE

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  • @QuasarEE
    @QuasarEE 9 місяців тому +2879

    Nightdive guy here. A few comments: The configuration menu runs before the main game loop because of the Doom engine's inability to reinitialize itself meaning that multiplayer game initialization had to be handled before the main loop starts. This was the easiest way to get it done on our schedule. Bad choices ending gameplay that we couldn't work around were nerfed because our QA really didn't enjoy starting the game over entirely. The solution for not setting off the alarm in the Commons is to take an ore back to the beginning of the mines, there's another forcefield and inside it is a device mind controlling the drones in the area. Destroying that device opens the door you pushed that said it was locked. You can then go through that door and it leads directly into the Factory, behind the forcefield you'd have to blow up in the Commons.

    • @danielja1832
      @danielja1832 9 місяців тому +216

      Thanks for the insight. Always interesting to hear what makes these games tick, and why certain design choices were made.

    • @MarquisDeSang
      @MarquisDeSang 9 місяців тому +72

      The switch version will crash after the console resume from sleep.

    • @VandalVanWilder
      @VandalVanWilder 9 місяців тому +9

      Nice

    • @MithrilRoshi
      @MithrilRoshi 9 місяців тому +21

      Hello fellow dev :D
      Also nice.

    • @Aspartamebraintumor
      @Aspartamebraintumor 9 місяців тому +21

      Can you release a patch of the game to make the Inquisitor stop endlessly firing grenades at the wall when you are in a separate room

  • @TehNoobiness
    @TehNoobiness 9 місяців тому +810

    11:12 It gets better. There was a demo, and stealing the chalice was the main goal of the demo--and in the demo, the guy gives you your gold right away. So not only were players not expecting this kind of twist, the players who played the shareware version _thought they had already seen this part of the story._ It's a brilliant little bait and switch.

    • @RolandTheJabberwocky
      @RolandTheJabberwocky 9 місяців тому +90

      THATS SO EVIL HOLY SHIT

    • @ludilka
      @ludilka 9 місяців тому +5

      Which demo is that? I am pretty sure the demo version of Strife I played is the exact copy of the final game in terms of chalice shenanigans

    • @anchorlightforge
      @anchorlightforge 9 місяців тому +28

      @@ludilka I'm pretty sure this is referring to the Trust No One shareware episode, which is included in the Veteran Edition.

    • @ChibiKami
      @ChibiKami 9 місяців тому +17

      IIRC giving it to him sets off the alarm immediately but it opens the door to resistance HQ and also a secret hole in the floor near him with treasure inside

    • @lobstrosity7163
      @lobstrosity7163 9 місяців тому +2

      I loved that demo. Showed it to my friends and all. Never got hold of the full game though.

  • @MathewWalls
    @MathewWalls 9 місяців тому +849

    I love how Blackbird is so obviously fan-art of Rogue from X-Men,

    • @Bitterman5868
      @Bitterman5868 9 місяців тому +158

      The hero looks like gambit with a red hair so it is a win-win situation

    • @Aspartamebraintumor
      @Aspartamebraintumor 9 місяців тому +10

      blackbird has an adam's apple tho

    • @batarnakdekosse1312
      @batarnakdekosse1312 9 місяців тому +127

      ​@@Aspartamebraintumoreven better

    • @DONKINDONUTS
      @DONKINDONUTS 9 місяців тому +130

      ​@@Aspartamebraintumor Brotherman, men *and* women have adam's apples, if that's what you're getting at 😂

    • @FentonWenge
      @FentonWenge 9 місяців тому +252

      So she's a Rogue-like?

  • @GeneralPotatoSalad
    @GeneralPotatoSalad 9 місяців тому +432

    Blackbird's great. Some unused audio files show they clearly had plans for an entire set of situational responses that never got implemented (like one sharply telling you "Go left! OTHER LEFT!" presumably if you fail to follow directions) and a series of responses that seemed to be tied to how much you're killing things. On the low end Blackbird is clearly annoyed. On the high end, she's flirtatious, goes all-in on the double entendres and does seem to be aroused by the excessive violence. (Get a WAD viewer/editor like Slade and listen to VOC212 to VOC220 in voices.wad.) There's also a few files that seem to be loosely following the demo's plot where she seems a bit more expressive in general. (VOC1 and VOC231-VOC237, probably a few more scattered around.)
    But really, what more could an early FPS protagonist want in a girlfriend? *Feelings?* She likes seeing things die, and he likes making things die. Match made in heaven.

    • @asteroidrules
      @asteroidrules 9 місяців тому +62

      It seems like they really put a greater emphasis on acting than was common for games of that era. Heck there are plenty of modern games that put less effort into their voice acting than Strife, but it really stands out that a game from 1996 has both good voice acting and a development team who were clearly trying to make the most of it.

    • @singletona082
      @singletona082 9 місяців тому +17

      I went through wit ha WAD viewer once upon a time and just found the whole thing a treat because of all the unused content. Then i lamented nobody seemed to make USE of any of it. Like 'here let's make a wad that finds a use for all this stuff.'
      Also that 'On your left. NO YOUR OTHER LEFT' could have easily been me in the last slog of the game because that palce was a fucking maze.
      Kinda wished the sewer dwellers took up residence in the old front base after macil's takeover of the castle. Ya still out of sight but the entire front base area was... genuinely amazing as a map that had lots of areas and secrets and NONE of it is mandatory.

    • @TheD736
      @TheD736 9 місяців тому +36

      It's not often that your cortana-esque partner is just as much of a psycho as the FPS protag

    • @RdTrler
      @RdTrler 9 місяців тому +21

      I went and played the "Trust No One" demo. Turns out, that's where you can find those unused lines.
      It's pretty wild that a demo to a game from 1996 would go so far as to tease the mid-game.
      Rogue Entertainment was inspired. Too bad they petered out... and while working with Valve, of all things.

  • @theoneandonlymichaelmccormick
    @theoneandonlymichaelmccormick 9 місяців тому +817

    This game resembles a playable cult animated movie, like Heavy Metal, Starchaser, or something by Ralph Bakshi. I dig it.

    • @FredSpade
      @FredSpade 9 місяців тому +44

      Yeah. The voice acting is very satisfying as well.

    • @judgeboony2695
      @judgeboony2695 9 місяців тому +44

      I always thought it was something reminiscent of a 90s cartoon aesthetic, like Skeleton Warriors and X-Men.

    • @theoneandonlymichaelmccormick
      @theoneandonlymichaelmccormick 9 місяців тому +25

      @@judgeboony2695 DEFINITELY Skeleton Warriors.

    • @BlackMoonHowls
      @BlackMoonHowls 9 місяців тому +4

      @@theoneandonlymichaelmccormick That was the shit my dude.

    • @BlackMoonHowls
      @BlackMoonHowls 9 місяців тому

      Ever hear of Jim lee's Wildcats, or Cadillacs and Dinosaurs, what about Dinosaucers? Biker Mice from Mars? @@judgeboony2695

  • @Cyberphile
    @Cyberphile 9 місяців тому +305

    You can stealth your way into the factory by stabbing the explosive with your knife, as long as you manage not to damage the guards with the explosion, you can get in without alerting them.

    • @ghoulbuster1
      @ghoulbuster1 9 місяців тому +115

      Punching explosive bombs is the peak of stealth gameplay.

    • @Ickarichi
      @Ickarichi 9 місяців тому +10

      I randomly found your salt and sanctuary lore through yesterday then I randomly find you here? Funny how that happens kek.

    • @Cyberphile
      @Cyberphile 9 місяців тому +8

      @@Ickarichi Small internet, haha. Thanks for watching my stuff.

    • @Synthonym
      @Synthonym 9 місяців тому +4

      poison crossbow is also silent

    • @SpaceSkeletonDragon
      @SpaceSkeletonDragon 5 місяців тому

      @@Synthonym Right, but you don't want to waste that ammo on statics, it fucks guards up quite nicely.

  • @Crocogator
    @Crocogator 9 місяців тому +311

    I love this game. Where a big mean guard will spend a paragraph threatening you and the only dialogue option is the default 'leave'. Except in Strife? The default is "Thanks, bye!"

    • @LonelySpaceDetective
      @LonelySpaceDetective 9 місяців тому +35

      Similar thing another game did: The risible point-and-click adventure Hopkins FBI has "I have to go." as the general leave option. Only in Hopkins's case, it's actually _voiced._

    • @dragoneye6229
      @dragoneye6229 9 місяців тому +36

      Macil: "Then die in shame and dishonor!"
      MC: "Thanks bye!"
      Me: "Well we ARE a mercenary and they are cheery about getting into fights IRL so this checks out."

    • @Crocogator
      @Crocogator 9 місяців тому +7

      @@dragoneye6229 *gets gunned down* T-T-Thanks... B...Bye...

  • @brendanhinderliter6627
    @brendanhinderliter6627 9 місяців тому +507

    I always rather liked the art style behind Strife. The whole Techno-Feudal vibe really felt unique and set it apart from it's contemporaries at the time, which were mostly futuristic or fantasy.
    Also, full voice acting in a Doom engine game? I can almost imagine how impressive it seemed back in 1996.

    • @georgeoldsterd8994
      @georgeoldsterd8994 9 місяців тому +12

      Don't forget that Doom 2 technically has voice acting as well, with the Icon of Sin.

    • @brendanhinderliter6627
      @brendanhinderliter6627 9 місяців тому +49

      ​@@georgeoldsterd8994True, but it was a one-time thing in Doom 2. The rest of the game was mostly stock sound effects, grunts and screams.
      Strife however has full voice acting in its world to such a level that it oozes personality and charm. Every character has something to them that amounts to more than just "Oh, he's a zombie, and he is moaning for hunger". From the smug, rather dodgy feel of Harris, to the stern and commanding demeanor of Macil, the voice acting in Strife is IMO one of its biggest strengths.

    • @quint3ssent1a
      @quint3ssent1a 9 місяців тому +26

      Strife artstyle was incredibly good. The protag on game's cover has a GIGACHAD CHIN (GIGACHIN, if you will.)

    • @brendanhinderliter6627
      @brendanhinderliter6627 9 місяців тому +26

      ​@@quint3ssent1aOut of all of the heroes from various Boomer Shooters, Strifeguy is one of the most chaddest of them all.
      Not to mention Blackbird is literally Rogue from X-Men.

    • @singletona082
      @singletona082 9 місяців тому +11

      If this had come out even a few months before instead of literally right between Duke and Quake. But alas. The Programmer had to go and cause Strife.

  • @alexanderrahl7034
    @alexanderrahl7034 9 місяців тому +1090

    "They destroy our women and children."
    its very jarring to hear that line, and not hear Ross say "our _women_ !" lol

    • @UwBuis
      @UwBuis 9 місяців тому +68

      Weoamen!

    • @SongsandActs
      @SongsandActs 9 місяців тому +99

      I said it out loud when Civvie didn't say it.

    • @HC-qc5rp
      @HC-qc5rp 9 місяців тому +44

      Real recognize real

    • @theslamdancekid
      @theslamdancekid 9 місяців тому +48

      Lifelong STRIFE too

    • @UwBuis
      @UwBuis 9 місяців тому +36

      Animals!

  • @hoborg98
    @hoborg98 9 місяців тому +138

    So, if Macil was exploiting the rebellion to gather Sigil pieces, does that mean the Front was just a... front?

    • @BestCupid
      @BestCupid 5 місяців тому +6

      Your profile picture with this comment is so damn perfect

  • @daemonofdecay
    @daemonofdecay 9 місяців тому +1054

    First Ross and now Civvie. This game deserves all the attention.

  • @ScottHost
    @ScottHost 9 місяців тому +165

    Little known back story. ID basically paid for the development of my game called Raptor Call of the Shadows. Strife started as my game and I wound up trading the rights to Strife for the money owed on Raptor and I moved back to Chicago.
    .
    ( short version of story )

    • @youmukonpaku3168
      @youmukonpaku3168 9 місяців тому +30

      I knew I recognized the name Cygnus from somewhere. Raptor is a ton of fun even now.

    • @ScottHost
      @ScottHost 9 місяців тому +3

      @@youmukonpaku3168 I am making a new Raptor and about to Release an updated Demonstar ( game I made after Raptor )
      Dropped the Cygnus name it was too common.

    • @belowthestoneofficial1476
      @belowthestoneofficial1476 9 місяців тому +6

      there it is

    • @ScottHost
      @ScottHost 9 місяців тому +5

      @@belowthestoneofficial1476 I dont believe it

    • @Aspartamebraintumor
      @Aspartamebraintumor 9 місяців тому +2

      how much of Strife was developed when you left the project?

  • @LonelySpaceDetective
    @LonelySpaceDetective 9 місяців тому +176

    41:58
    Fun fact: Getting the Berserk effect from collecting all three Talismans was inspired by a bug in the original DOS game, that allowed taking out an Inquisitor with a single punch in _very_ specific circumstances. In fact, with enough Stamina upgrades plus Berserk you can actually do that without the bug with a good enough damage roll.
    Also, the messages you get when picking up the Talismans are ripped straight from DOOM 64 when you pick up the Demon Keys.

    • @Matt-md5yt
      @Matt-md5yt 9 місяців тому +19

      Lmao one punching an Inquisitior

    • @ozrithclay6921
      @ozrithclay6921 9 місяців тому +23

      No one expects the spanish inquisition! And no inquisition ever expects a berserk punch!

    • @Veladus
      @Veladus 9 місяців тому

      OG One Punch Man

  • @arandomday3530
    @arandomday3530 9 місяців тому +168

    Incredibly based of Romero to help the Strife devs fire their terrible boss and found a new studio to make Strife

    • @singletona082
      @singletona082 9 місяців тому +42

      So would you say he made The Programmer his Bitch?

    • @atomiclemon77
      @atomiclemon77 7 місяців тому

      Man, I kind of feel sorry for Romero every time I hear this referenced. Poor guy. With him for life.@@singletona082

    • @bluebay0
      @bluebay0 3 місяці тому

      @@singletona082 Just look at that grin, who wouldn't want to be Romero's bitch?

  • @timothymckane6362
    @timothymckane6362 9 місяців тому +241

    2:13 - 2:32 We need 9 uncensored hours of Civvie explaining each of those other FPS Doom-like games.

    • @RogueSceptile
      @RogueSceptile 9 місяців тому +34

      Uncensored hours or uncensored images?

    • @Satanic_Dude
      @Satanic_Dude 9 місяців тому

      @@RogueSceptile I'll admit i'm intrigued to know which game has the barbarian banging that goblin, you know for uh, research

    • @skeletonmemelord7779
      @skeletonmemelord7779 9 місяців тому +56

      yeah, honestly. i'm not even sure what some of the games shown during that time frame are. especially the one in the left of the last part of the segment. what the fuck even is that?
      edit: oh jesus christ, i just found out what that is. it's a game called SLOOTER! i guess HDoom isn't the only hentai Doom engine related thing i know now.

    • @saloz9483
      @saloz9483 9 місяців тому +12

      @@skeletonmemelord7779 LMAO I thought that was just a fake image. I looked up the name you said and just wow.

    • @a.k.aorangepenguin5032
      @a.k.aorangepenguin5032 9 місяців тому +7

      @@saloz9483 shall i ask for the forbidden knowledge

  • @Ribbons0121R121
    @Ribbons0121R121 9 місяців тому +98

    For those who don’t know
    The bamboo room is a reference to an ancient torture method where they tie a man above bamboo and it grows so fast that it goes straight through them

    • @GmodPlusWoW
      @GmodPlusWoW 9 місяців тому +29

      I thought it involved bamboo skewers under the fingernails, but getting Dragon's Tooth'd by bamboo sounds so much worse. Even if the bamboo doesn't turn you into a plant-zombie.

    • @professordetective807
      @professordetective807 8 місяців тому +10

      @@GmodPlusWoW | Given the Department's usual methods, it could very well be BOTH...

    • @thecandlemaker1329
      @thecandlemaker1329 8 місяців тому +19

      You could say he's been bamboozled.

    • @mgg7756
      @mgg7756 8 місяців тому

      XD'nt

    • @TheMeekMingeMaster
      @TheMeekMingeMaster 7 місяців тому

      yep it was both, it didnt grow so fast, just over a few days it would shoot, so for every hour of every day once it dug into you youd slowly feel it dig deeper towards your head till you died@@professordetective807

  • @bansheebacklash3730
    @bansheebacklash3730 7 місяців тому +25

    "Don't smoke cigarettes kids!"
    (immediately lights cigarette)
    One of my favorite things about watching Civvie's videos is that little moments like that could really be him, or it could be part of the keyfabe. Its impossible to tell.

    • @Cattierhornet66
      @Cattierhornet66 11 годин тому

      There was a meme in the earlier videos where civvie chain smoked cigarettes. His voice was lower then. Like way early vids, doom movie and land of the dead. I assume dog stoped smoking since then resulting in a different tone of voice. Good callback to the oldies

  • @BroBurg445
    @BroBurg445 9 місяців тому +64

    I feel like the 6 hour list of GZdoom games not including Ashes 2063/Ashes Afterglow is a great opportunity to tell you to play that. Play that.
    For real, it's fantastic.

    • @Fredbob392
      @Fredbob392 5 місяців тому +5

      Ashes is amazing, fills the good post apocalyptic game hole in my heart that's been wanting ever since New Vegas

  • @Damienx247
    @Damienx247 9 місяців тому +196

    Strife's storyline sounds like story of Taarna from the first Heavy Metal movie converted to an fps.

    • @YTsux100pct._of-the-time.
      @YTsux100pct._of-the-time. 9 місяців тому +31

      I can't even tell you how many female RPG characters I've named either Taarna from Heavy Metal, or Aviendha from the Wheel of Time.
      Male characters are always named Dredd.

    • @markosofranic3905
      @markosofranic3905 9 місяців тому +12

      @@YTsux100pct._of-the-time. As in Judge Dredd?

    • @YTsux100pct._of-the-time.
      @YTsux100pct._of-the-time. 9 місяців тому +9

      @@markosofranic3905 of course.
      Love me some Judge Dredd.
      Comics and the movie from a few years back.

    • @viewtifuljoe4412
      @viewtifuljoe4412 9 місяців тому +8

      @@YTsux100pct._of-the-time. "Dredd, Do you need backup?" "No."

    • @TheRealNormanBates
      @TheRealNormanBates 9 місяців тому +3

      @@YTsux100pct._of-the-time. I _KNEW_ you'd say that.

  • @brain_drops
    @brain_drops 9 місяців тому +70

    Im a younger dude, 22. But I've got a great appreciation for older games and such. So i like using this channel as kind of a crash course in boomer shooters that we're beyond my time. Thanks for suffering Civvie

    • @GeorgeTsiros
      @GeorgeTsiros 8 місяців тому +2

      Check out Descent (the new one is called Overload), Terminal Velocity, Ballistics and maybe Pyrotechnica. They're not boomshoot and except for the first, they're not even particularly good, but for a short list of early 3d games that are relatively unknown, it will do.
      \m/

    • @SentinalhMC
      @SentinalhMC 8 місяців тому +1

      @@GeorgeTsiros You are literally the only person I've ever seen mention Ballistics. That game trolled the hell out of me as a kid when I bought it second hand with its installer progress going to 600%

    • @GeorgeTsiros
      @GeorgeTsiros 8 місяців тому

      @@SentinalhMCha! maybe the data was corrupt or the installer didn't like the OS verrsion? Anyway, did you manage to play it?

    • @SentinalhMC
      @SentinalhMC 8 місяців тому

      @@GeorgeTsiros Oh yeah I played it a bit, didn't really like it but I think I only paid like $5 for it.

  • @psychotripnerdstuff
    @psychotripnerdstuff 9 місяців тому +199

    I love Strife. I wish this game led to a whole generation of shooter role-playing games, with the choices of Baldur's Gate, and the action of retro shooters.
    And, as long as I'm dreaming, I'd like a pony.

    • @mistermeow527
      @mistermeow527 9 місяців тому +39

      In a way it led to Deus Ex so it helped lay that first stone.

    • @blakecasimir
      @blakecasimir 9 місяців тому +31

      There are some HUGE action RPG mods for GZDoom, including Abysm, Inquisitor 3D, and Ascension. Highly recommended!

    • @MinscFromBaldursGate92
      @MinscFromBaldursGate92 9 місяців тому +9

      Nice to see a fellow BG fan.

    • @Sorrelhas
      @Sorrelhas 9 місяців тому +12

      Don't ask for ponies on the internet

    • @lionocyborg6030
      @lionocyborg6030 9 місяців тому +11

      Something like a modern Pathways into Darkness including both a Night Dive remaster (for Windows & Linux, Mac already has one) and a full remake of that game ala System Shock Enhanced Edition & System Shock R would rock. The closest we have to those sadly is the Marathon sourceport port of PID for the former and Nightmare Reaper for the latter. Of course, PID meets the Binding of Issac Repentance would be super awesome.

  • @bloodrunsclear
    @bloodrunsclear 9 місяців тому +34

    'You gotta break a few eggs to kill everybody! Or...something.'
    - NPC from Strife

  • @lordguy5
    @lordguy5 9 місяців тому +40

    So those who want to know, 2:32 top left corner, SLOOTER is the name.

    • @JeffHikari
      @JeffHikari 9 місяців тому +7

      Unfortunately the dev behind that one gave up when they realized they couldn't make a ton of money from it. A shame, really.

    • @Mrmbag0703
      @Mrmbag0703 9 місяців тому +1

      @@JeffHikari yeah, but idk what he expected honestly. still sucks.

    • @atarijaguarfan7893
      @atarijaguarfan7893 9 місяців тому +3

      get that game to SsethTzeentach ASAP
      i need to see him have a mental breakdown and speedrun a porn game again lmfao

    • @JO-db7cm
      @JO-db7cm 9 місяців тому +3

      I was wondering why there was seemingly random porn added to the pile.

    • @skeletonmemelord7779
      @skeletonmemelord7779 9 місяців тому +1

      OH... that's what that is. jesus christ

  • @skotters
    @skotters 9 місяців тому +54

    When my family got our first pc back in 96, it came with a crap load of CDs to tinker with, one of which was called "Launch". It was like a digital internet magazine subscription that had interactive links and videos everywhere and our copy also came with a demo of Strife...
    I loved that demo so much and nobody really knew about the game then. Glad to see it get covered here!

    • @Rountree1985
      @Rountree1985 9 місяців тому +3

      Lmao I remember Launch. I’m pretty sure I had one that included a Tony Hawk Pro Skater 2 demo.

  • @HuffdrewPaint
    @HuffdrewPaint 9 місяців тому +37

    Kissinger AND a Civvie Strife video.
    Good-ass day.

  • @juliovictormanuelschaeffer8370
    @juliovictormanuelschaeffer8370 9 місяців тому +15

    Civvie, you can't run forever from Chex Quest. We've been waiting that review for years!

  • @chris92945
    @chris92945 9 місяців тому +286

    Strife: Its like Hexen meets Daggerfall but it doesn't make you wanna kill yourself.

    • @georgeoldsterd8994
      @georgeoldsterd8994 9 місяців тому +40

      I played both Hexen and Daggerfall, neither made me want to kill myself. :D

    • @AstralPhnx
      @AstralPhnx 9 місяців тому +8

      And with 100 times more sewers

    • @brendanhinderliter6627
      @brendanhinderliter6627 9 місяців тому +54

      Pro Daggerfall when Civvie?

    • @afd19850
      @afd19850 9 місяців тому +8

      Hexen wasn’t that bad lol

    • @salmon_wine
      @salmon_wine 9 місяців тому +51

      @@afd19850 Hexen + daggerfall absolutely would be though
      You'd travel into a new province, go into your first dungeon, and at the end find a switch
      "1023 switches left to find..."

  • @GuyDude-hk8uy
    @GuyDude-hk8uy 6 місяців тому +8

    "I didn't play a lot of RPGs, I still don't. I'm an instant gratification kind of gamer"
    Fuck yeah.

  • @InternetHydra
    @InternetHydra 9 місяців тому +181

    One of the true underrated old fpses, even taking into account the wonkiness and flaws. Strikingly innovative yet largely unknown by gamers at its time let alone now.
    EDIT: And uh yeah speaking of flaws, why would Nightdive take out some of the softlock options but not the really big one? If I remember, the governor is mandatory for progression at some point but that sidequest locks out the needed dialogue.

    • @awakeandwatching953
      @awakeandwatching953 9 місяців тому +2

      Ii had the demo from pc zone on cd.. played it loads but never got the full game.. might have to change that now

    • @DiceDsx
      @DiceDsx 9 місяців тому +38

      They did remove that softlock: if you take the chalice and talk to the Governor, he will have you knocked out and dragged back to the start of the game. You can then go back to him and he'll behave as nothing happened, allowing you to continue without having to start over.

    • @InternetHydra
      @InternetHydra 9 місяців тому +14

      @@DiceDsx That's a good change... as much as the curmudgeon in my brain grumbles at the softening of the game, the logical part admits they didn't really add much and would probably cause steam refunds nowadays... at least the original version is still an option.

    • @ramonandrajo6348
      @ramonandrajo6348 9 місяців тому

      They are not good at their job.

    • @ramonandrajo6348
      @ramonandrajo6348 9 місяців тому

      @@InternetHydra Nightdive are not good at their job.

  • @BlazingOwnager
    @BlazingOwnager 8 місяців тому +14

    Strife is like a movie made in the 90s that was panned for feeling like it was from the early 80s on release, but after 20 years, people look at it and go 'well it was a pretty good early 80s movie made in the 90s.'

    • @EagleEye517
      @EagleEye517 7 місяців тому

      Idk why it reminds me of that low budget Mad Max-like movie from 1989 called Cyborg, featuring Van Damme and Vincent Klyne.
      Probably because of both themes being post-post apocalyptic

  • @Patton1944
    @Patton1944 9 місяців тому +72

    Holy crap, is Blackbird the first ever adjutant type, "always connected to you through coms," type character? Like Cortana or Hunnigan.

    • @anchorlightforge
      @anchorlightforge 9 місяців тому +12

      I think Walter Bascom technically beats that by about a year? In FPS games there's not many others that come to mind but I feel like if you're willing to include a few other genres there might be some other CD-ROM era games with a comms advisor character.

    • @RdTrler
      @RdTrler 9 місяців тому +22

      @@anchorlightforge TekWar's Walter Bascom doesn't exactly count. His lines weren't playing over normal gameplay, and instead they played like you got back to base and he was debriefing you. And also it was Capstone, the pinnacle of entertainment. TekWar might've been the first FPS to do a lot of things... but it also didn't give its ideas the time of day, so why should we?
      If Blackbird wasn't the first ever, she was certainly the one to inspire the likes of Cortana.

    • @jamesgrose510
      @jamesgrose510 9 місяців тому +10

      SHODAN is the antagonist, so I'm not inclined to call her a supporting character to the player

    • @Phobos_Anomaly
      @Phobos_Anomaly Місяць тому

      I'd argue the various AI in the Marathon trilogy come close, though of course that's through text terminals - but very similar.

  • @RdTrler
    @RdTrler 9 місяців тому +23

    35:57 Funny thing, when I got to that part where you have to blow up the forcefield with the explosive ore... I "stealthed" it by punching somebody and having them blow up the ore (and me) with it. It worked and I kept the town from getting violent on me.

  • @Arimmus
    @Arimmus 9 місяців тому +36

    I love this game, I bought it when it first came out in 1996-97. I played it until I broke it. then I bought another copy. I ligit squeed when i saw he finally did it. Thank you CV-11 For your work and dedication to this game's memory.

  • @PaulC-Drums
    @PaulC-Drums 9 місяців тому +22

    Hell yeah bro, one of my favorite games of all time. Knew Civvie would do a video on this eventually. I want a modern remake of this game SO badly.

  • @elijones7926
    @elijones7926 9 місяців тому +33

    So, you CAN steal the chalice. After the mission for the coupling and talking to the gov for the last time, go back and swipe the chalice but dont go to harris or near the bar. I always took to to the abandoned front base (after they left) but stashed in the entrance side room (before the front leaves).

  • @Zenlore6499
    @Zenlore6499 9 місяців тому +24

    I’m impressed with this game! It feels like something that should have been made years later, creatively speaking. Was not expecting it to be so close to Quake in age!

  • @KingAbiku
    @KingAbiku 9 місяців тому +84

    Well we all know where the “Most Replayed” portion of the video will be, what have you done Civvie! ****2:31****

    • @Kyrkby
      @Kyrkby 9 місяців тому +16

      Now if only someone would provide people with a name.

    • @georgeoldsterd8994
      @georgeoldsterd8994 9 місяців тому +9

      @@Kyrkbyyeah, for science!

    • @nathanielgeorgen2924
      @nathanielgeorgen2924 9 місяців тому +38

      Slooter

    • @nathanielgeorgen2924
      @nathanielgeorgen2924 9 місяців тому +10

      You're welcome

    • @endig4501
      @endig4501 9 місяців тому +24

      Abandoned project because the solve dev was banking on an obscure indie nsfw game to somehow be their cash cow, and barely marketed it. Wouldn't bother.

  • @raccoononymous
    @raccoononymous 9 місяців тому +28

    "But Harris promised me money!"
    After shooting your way through multiple assassination attempts, your character might still not understand that he has been betrayed. I laughed out loud at this.

  • @Jasmine__135
    @Jasmine__135 9 місяців тому +194

    VERY common misconception about the Doom Engine: It DOES have a concept of height, it tracks it constantly, sourceport or DOS, it uses all 3 dimensions. This is why you can *fall* in Doom, the infinitely tall monsters are to lower memory usage, the lack of vertical mouse-aiming was because Carmack didn't like the Y-sheering that was commonplace at the time (see Duke3D)
    not that any of this matters, but education is important and I am tired of people thinking Doom is not as 3D as it actually is :3

    • @-Zakhiel-
      @-Zakhiel- 9 місяців тому +30

      When people say it's not 3D, they refer to the fact that the rendering is not fully in 3D, not that the game doesn't have a Y axe. There are plenty of old arcade games wich have length, depth and height but you wouldn't call those games 3D. Because they weren't.
      You can for exemple have a top down 2D games with height (rooms over rooms, objects going under or above your character...), they're still 2D games (or are you sayin' that a game like Link to the past is 3D).

    • @EnjoyCocaColaLight
      @EnjoyCocaColaLight 9 місяців тому +4

      truth.

    • @Jasmine__135
      @Jasmine__135 9 місяців тому +16

      ​@@-Zakhiel- no i mean its a full 3D engine. there are values stored for X,Y, and Z axis inside the code.
      room-over-room is not what makes a game engine "3D" its whats people can use to say their engine is better than the other ones.

    • @DoomRater
      @DoomRater 9 місяців тому +5

      The problem isn't that it doesn't track it. It's just that for some intents and purposes it's completely IGNORED. Actors are commonly INFINITELY TALL for these some reasons.

    • @Claymann71
      @Claymann71 9 місяців тому +3

      You are _technically_ correct!
      *The BEST kind of Correct.*
      _That just raises more questions!_

  • @grownreserected7935
    @grownreserected7935 9 місяців тому +5

    As a kid born in the late 80s, I grew up playing DOS Apogee games on my parents' Windows computer. Getting a good look at all these games from this Era, with the witty and humorous content Civvie11 gives hits my nostalgia button that other channels don't. So I appreciate your work, Civvie11.

  • @MrSoopSA
    @MrSoopSA 9 місяців тому +32

    Thank you so much for this review, Norton.

    • @kropela
      @kropela 9 місяців тому +8

      Why Norton?

    • @Matt-md5yt
      @Matt-md5yt 9 місяців тому +2

      The antiVirus?

    • @TrinSpin
      @TrinSpin 9 місяців тому +7

      @@kropela I presume it's referring to Norton Mapes, the guy from FEAR

    • @kropela
      @kropela 9 місяців тому

      @@TrinSpin Thanks!

    • @MrSoopSA
      @MrSoopSA 7 місяців тому +2

      @@TrinSpin Norton Mapes is also the guy from this review. (Please don’t kill me Civvie I’m just foolin’.)

  • @Legather
    @Legather 9 місяців тому +15

    I was there, I was there the day Civvie finally did Strife.
    Had a demo of Strife from some PC magazine and I played it over and over and over again, waiting for the full game. Easily one of my favourites, Quake didn't even get a glance. To this day I take the sewers and catacombs happily knowing I get the Castle battle, forgotten human sacrifice temple and underground alien space ship in return.

    • @Rountree1985
      @Rountree1985 9 місяців тому

      Was the CD called Launch?

    • @Legather
      @Legather 9 місяців тому

      @@Rountree1985 I don't think so but there's nearly 30 years of dust on that memory. It was probably from a magazine like PC Gamer UK or a contemporary.

    • @tomcruiiseship9461
      @tomcruiiseship9461 9 місяців тому

      Pc demos kicked ass back in the day.

  • @cruelangel_94
    @cruelangel_94 9 місяців тому +28

    I was waiting for this review! It was one of the first FPS I played along with Doom II.

  • @skaruts
    @skaruts 9 місяців тому +2

    From the perspective of a teenager playing this in the 90's, this game was a complete blast. It was all very new and fresh, and mostly unprecedented. The RPG elements, the dialogues, the missions, the scenery, the stealth-ish, the choices you could make, everything was so engaging. And then that battle in the castle. It was epic. No other game had ever placed me inside a whole big ass battle with lots of NPCs shooting at each other, while I was just one among them. It really made me feel part of something much bigger. It gave life to the whole revolution thing: it wasn't just me doing missions, there were many other people doing their parts.
    I decided to kill Macil at some point, and played the rest of the game that way. Kept a save game there, and later played without killing Macil. The game has quite some replayability, I think.

  • @jeffreytripoli
    @jeffreytripoli 9 місяців тому +8

    Every two weeks for the last five years i check back here to see if this will be the week you cover Strife. This game has meant a lot to me over the past 25+ years and it's so gratifying to see my favorite UA-camr cover it -- even if you've been dogged for years about it. Thanks Civvie!

  • @KarlStolls
    @KarlStolls 8 місяців тому +2

    I find it highly amusing that they narrated and drew proper ending slides for both the bad and less bad endings, and the good ending is literally "and then they fucked, the end."
    Anyway, excellent spotlight on a classic. Was late to the party on Strife myself, but I'm still impressed by how much new ground it broke for what the Doom engine could do. You can see where the team's reach exceeded their grasp or they fell back on standard FPS design, but as a complete package it really shines, and there's just not a lot like it for the time period. And hats off to the Nightdive people for the work that went into the re-release; 'push button, play game' launchers are extremely helpful for giving old titles a second chance at an audience.

  • @Tall_Order
    @Tall_Order 9 місяців тому +19

    Back when this game first came out, I expected it to be a doom clone and I just ran around unaliving everyone and getting swarmed by soldiers and having merchants close down their stores because a psychopath was on the loose.

  • @ThommyofThenn
    @ThommyofThenn 9 місяців тому +15

    This game is legendary. Im glad you did a 50 minute film on this because i will savour it like cancer mouse relishes uranium-rind welsh cheddar. And yes civvie episodes are film.
    Edit: as a film nerd, i've seen a ton of Bogart's movies and a lot of them are really entertaining. If you like noir type movies with rapid fire witty dialogue I recommend you try some of his stuff. "The Maltese Falcon," "Treasure of Sierra Madre" and "To Have And Have Not," which many would rate his finest work, if not some of the greatest works in American 20th century cinema

    • @Sorain1
      @Sorain1 7 місяців тому

      I'm pretty sure at least the first two of those are in the top 100 films list. (A lot of them.)

  • @LordOfCrabz
    @LordOfCrabz 9 місяців тому +18

    STRIFE?!?! SO THIS IS THE BIG REVEAL BEFORE PRO PAINKILLER?! I cant wait :)

  • @rcblazer
    @rcblazer 9 місяців тому +8

    Can't wait to get my copy of Sewers, Rats, and Robots.

  • @Ezergil
    @Ezergil 9 місяців тому +50

    YES! Finally Strife! This game deserves some recognition

  • @Bluezure
    @Bluezure 9 місяців тому +2

    Boy I sure do love engaging with the algorithm. Especially with my favorite Correction Facility assigned entertainment man, CV-11

  • @ThePsychoRenegade
    @ThePsychoRenegade 9 місяців тому +4

    Have been waiting for this for years since the Game Dungeon.

  • @BalmoraBabe
    @BalmoraBabe 9 місяців тому +9

    Wow, the bots guarding you have really gone soft, that beating at the beginning was rather forgiving

  • @kungfuskull
    @kungfuskull 9 місяців тому +6

    I was gifted this game as a kid... before i had a CD drive. So it was just this tantilizing mystery for years.

  • @adiadiadifere
    @adiadiadifere 9 місяців тому +3

    I absolutely love this channel, a fellow 90's PC owner and this format works really well, I'm grateful to have found this channel and am grateful you post this content. Thank you

  • @boilerhousegarage
    @boilerhousegarage 9 місяців тому +23

    I remember an ending where Blackbird/Shana goes silent and the One God thing talks to you in her scrambled AI voice which made it seem like she was the baddie all along, but that doesn't make sense with the good ending. I assume that happened when you kill Macil before the Oracle?

    • @Synthonym
      @Synthonym 9 місяців тому +20

      It's what happens if you miss the spectre in the Ruins, it gets loose and infects her

    • @QuasarEE
      @QuasarEE 9 місяців тому +21

      Implies either one of two things. The first would be that on the bad ending path she gets compromised at some point in your quest. The other possibility means you're actually Frenching with the One God at the end of the game. Since they never made the planned sequel, I guess we won't know. Unless we do one ourselves sometime at Nightdive I guess, but that'll be our take on it and not whatever was planned originally (maybe I could ask the original devs sometime if I get the chance).

    • @Aspartamebraintumor
      @Aspartamebraintumor 9 місяців тому +2

      ​@@QuasarEEyou should make a patch to remove Blackbird's adam's apple at the end of the game

    • @kingalphawerewolf
      @kingalphawerewolf 9 місяців тому +3

      Absolutely make it turn out your new significant other is the one god. Build upon the foundations of sucker for love! @@QuasarEE

    • @Africa893
      @Africa893 9 місяців тому

      ​@@QuasarEEyou should make a patch that gives you a hammer with a camera inside!

  • @meekaboo_
    @meekaboo_ 9 місяців тому +6

    the way the oracle's mask slips off and reveals the skull is pretty rad

  • @arkgaharandan5881
    @arkgaharandan5881 9 місяців тому +23

    did you also knew you can talk to the starting enemy at your celli in the beginning of the game?

  • @jeromyschulz-arnold2632
    @jeromyschulz-arnold2632 9 місяців тому +6

    Thank you Civvie! I love this one too. And yeah, miss me with the sewers, catacombs, and endless metal mazes of the end game. The first third of this one is far and away the best part. Spaceship makes up for it in terms of ambience. 😊 again thank you for the early Christmas gift!

  • @axelprino
    @axelprino 9 місяців тому +4

    I kinda wanna read that "autobiography" now, specially if it's mostly just a massive lore-dump with Civvie's iconic sense of humor.

  • @singletona082
    @singletona082 9 місяців тому +1

    Civvie. As someone who found this game on some random forum after poking about old doom based games in the mid 2000'sout of sheer boredom? Thank you for getting around to covering this.
    Now to bug mandalore gaming til he covers it. :)
    FUnny thing is? You can just run up to the warden and shank him in full view of everyone and alarms won't raise. Unfortunatley even if yo udo ther'es one of those alarm sector tripwires that you have to pass through on the way in so... stealth is SADLY worthless here. Over the years i have considered seeing what it would take to just remove those and see what happens.
    There is a back way to the crystal that is simi-stealth in that you can walk up to the thing and start shooting at it. and there's an alarm til you get to the loading zone. There is no alarm after the laoding zone if you didn't trip one.
    The run up to the programmer has a lot of these thigns. IT's where they put the most care into little details like that. This first hub area, and the hub area near the end, though I find it less interesting even though there is way more detail.
    You can avoidthe backtracking by finding the guy you have to shank first. It's only really doable on a second playthrough or blind luck, but it's possible.

  • @dard2240
    @dard2240 9 місяців тому +6

    2:30 this is as close as we can get for Civvie to talk about Touhou.

  • @Niskirin
    @Niskirin 9 місяців тому +2

    YESSSS, I have been waiting 3+ years for you to make this video after you teased it. Finally it is time. Time for LIFELONG STRIFE!

  • @Spootprime
    @Spootprime 9 місяців тому +14

    Hell yeah! i still remember beating this game back in the day. what an interesting piece of tech, too.

  • @stefano-sellone82
    @stefano-sellone82 9 місяців тому +2

    Whenever I come to watch one of your videos, I put a like and THEN I start watching it. I already know I'll laugh for the entire duration. 🤣

  • @KeiNova
    @KeiNova 9 місяців тому +6

    I don't think I'll ever get bored of these videos.

  • @seethe639
    @seethe639 4 місяці тому +2

    This is one of my favorite games, i played the demo to death as a kid, then i played the original, then i played the vet edition. And this is really the most honest review, i remember that excitement when going for the castle, i also thought it was the end and that's part of the charm of this game - you think "damn, that was a good game... fun times" and THEN it actually opens up for you. I still remember how awed i was.

  • @theytkjaper9668
    @theytkjaper9668 9 місяців тому +6

    civie being happy is the gift i needed today

  • @ProfessorAragorn
    @ProfessorAragorn 9 місяців тому +2

    I've been waiting for Strife.
    Thank you Civvie. I appreciate the blueballing in the leadup.
    Also - can't get enough Peter Lorre references.

  • @Taldaris
    @Taldaris 9 місяців тому +21

    Strife is a pretty underrated gem, glad it gets some attention finally!

  • @robotorch
    @robotorch 5 місяців тому

    Jeez, I was an FPS hound back in the 90s, subscribed to all the magazines, and read all the popular gaming sites but I don't remember this one at all. What a revelation! Thanks for the retrospective!

  • @galaxycamerata
    @galaxycamerata 9 місяців тому +5

    I don't know how you manage to time out the EXACT time it takes for people to consider skipping forward a little bit when a joke runs its course and then make a joke with Ax3 and H4mmer about it, but you are very good at anticipating what people are gonna say or do in response to a gag and it always takes me off guard.
    I think for Strife, what I adore is the little set dressing that goes into the character design and how worn down everyone and everything is.
    Like, the main character's left glove has a seam coming loose. Helps the entire thing feel more lively.

  • @salmon_wine
    @salmon_wine 9 місяців тому +2

    YES FINALLY I'VE WAITED FOR THIS VIDEO FOR SO LONG

  • @ArkVogel
    @ArkVogel 9 місяців тому +7

    On a side note, the Guncaster mod is fully compatible, including the ending scene.

    • @garuelx8627
      @garuelx8627 9 місяців тому +1

      Welp time to PAAAAAARRRRTYYYYY!

  • @Drayg0
    @Drayg0 9 місяців тому +1

    I bought this, been sitting on a shelf.. I think I actually have to play it, sorry but I gotta dip out on this video for now.. thanks for the content!!

  • @TheFlowersOfNaivety
    @TheFlowersOfNaivety 9 місяців тому +3

    Dude imagine if you had played this as a kid! It was so tough but so innovative! Nothing like this would come out for quite a while!

  • @FightingForceSoulless
    @FightingForceSoulless 9 місяців тому +2

    THE BEST game on the Doom engine.
    Hexen is impressive, sure, but Strife is Hexen on steroids, and much much more impressive. I would love to see a remake or a sequel. This and Blood man...

  • @KamiJoJo
    @KamiJoJo 9 місяців тому +10

    This is still one of my favorite id Tech games, it feels just right to have this mixture of RPG elements in an FPS as early as 1996, surprisingly good voice acting for what games like Resident Evil were already a joke in this department during the time, only limited by the sample rate that most DOS games could handle but still keeping the charm. While the sprite work of this game can have some recycling from already existing Doom assets, the cartoon-ish art style and smooth animations mixed with a serious tone of the narrative is a perfect fit for the typical world dominating oppression, we wouldn't see something like this until Half-Life 2 released with the similar storytelling of a rebellion's struggle against an alien assault that also transformed citizens into troops.

    • @CoralCopperHead
      @CoralCopperHead 9 місяців тому

      Except unlike HL2, Strife is good.

    • @Kyller3030
      @Kyller3030 8 місяців тому

      @@CoralCopperHead is examined life(of gaming) still making game videos?

  • @mrxlvcrft
    @mrxlvcrft 9 місяців тому +1

    I've been waiting for civvie to cover this game since the first time I discovered this channel. I had forgotten all about it... So many memories.

  • @erykrejner2528
    @erykrejner2528 9 місяців тому +14

    It's fun to watch a Civvie video and watch the live likes count go up. Started to watch 1 hour after the upload - 800 likes. At the end of the watch time 1,8k likes. Simply magical.

    • @Matt-md5yt
      @Matt-md5yt 9 місяців тому +3

      That update thing is cool

  • @Umqualquerporra
    @Umqualquerporra 9 місяців тому +1

    12:55 Look at Civvie throwing shade about the sound of someone's first GAME when his first TWENTY VIDEOS sound so good.

  • @SnapJack42
    @SnapJack42 9 місяців тому +4

    Re: Avoiding setting the alarm in the Commons: I always just skipped going through the front door by taking the detour. In the mines, there's a door that leads to a back entrance in the factory. A bit tedious to head through, but beats trying to fight through the Commons, which I never felt was worth it.

  • @JonasPlanck
    @JonasPlanck 9 місяців тому +17

    If you kill Macil before the Oracle in the original version, then Blackbird turns out to be the final boss. The "twist" ending.
    Also, the original cheat for gold is "donnytrump" a cheat code that aged really well, didn't it?

    • @michaelandreipalon359
      @michaelandreipalon359 9 місяців тому +5

      Same goes for that Home Alone 2 scene.

    • @pentatronic
      @pentatronic 9 місяців тому +1

      Came here to say this. I think that was the first ending I ever got, and I was so disappointed. I mean, I appreciated the "trust no one" twist ending aspect of it, but thought they went too far in making both Macil AND Blackbird villains. Blackbird was loyal to me, even after I iced Macil! But then I found out there was another ending and all was right.

  • @darthcinema4262
    @darthcinema4262 9 місяців тому +6

    Probably one of the best games on the Doom engine and very innovative. Thanks Civvie

  • @IronnMan35
    @IronnMan35 9 місяців тому +1

    One of the gems i played through several times back in the day. It was so novel and fun, mixing a little bit of rpg with first person shooting.
    I liked the art style, the voices, the music.
    Shame you didn't let us hear the creepy ambient sounds of the alien spaceship and he final boss's comment at you when it sees you. All in all, fun review though, and well deserved for this game.

  • @rorysimpson8716
    @rorysimpson8716 9 місяців тому +7

    It's my least played Doom engine game, too. It played more like a Choose Your Own Adventure novel where you could get softlocked very easily.

  • @jeremyabrahamson2872
    @jeremyabrahamson2872 9 місяців тому +2

    The voice acting in this game is actually really good. Cheesy, cartoony, but very competent.

  • @RyanMclain
    @RyanMclain 9 місяців тому +73

    Strife is freakin great.

  • @benroxknox
    @benroxknox 9 місяців тому +1

    Hats off for the use of the Army Song at the end. Hilarious

  • @Thyrork
    @Thyrork 9 місяців тому +3

    I was on holiday at the seaside as a wee teenager, as the wee teenagers of england often do, dragged to iron grey skies and miserable weather alongside the shitty awful experience of a seaside town.
    In that town was a blessed highlight, a little gameshop, I ask to go in and people are fine with it, hey I brought money to this holiday, maybe ill get something nice. I found a boxed copy of strife for £1. I bought it on an idle whim.
    Best £1 I ever spent once I got home from that holiday and discovered my new best setting that has stuck with me forever.
    Anyway the lesson of this tale is fuck the English coastline.

  • @Brogboolius_Maximus
    @Brogboolius_Maximus 9 місяців тому +1

    I haven't watched yet, but you did it, you beautiful bastard! YOU FINALLY DID IT!!!

  • @BaurRavenblack
    @BaurRavenblack 9 місяців тому +3

    I remember having a great first impression of this game. Its complexity for the Doom engine captured me immediately, the gimmick of the super weapon's ammo being the Player's health pool is at the very least interesting, and the voice acting (like all of it) is easily one of the best put into an FPS. However, Strife does have a sub-par arsenal and a basically stand-in inventory, which probably caused the game to be largely lost across time and memory. Not to mention it came out in between the Duke and Quake.

  • @yankee1921
    @yankee1921 9 місяців тому

    Haven’t watched a Civvie video in awhile, looked through my recommended and saw this, yelled STRIFE! And clicked

  • @Shocklift
    @Shocklift 9 місяців тому +5

    Those enemy death animations are sick as hell

  • @redavatar
    @redavatar 9 місяців тому +2

    I played a demo of this way back and quite loved it. For years I tried to hunt down the game but it's pretty rare and goes for a pretty penny. I snapped up the Nightdive version when it was released and had a blast playing it back then around Christmas. It was the perfect retro game for me to play during Christmas holidays. I can't believe it's been 9 years judging by my Steam review from 2014 ...

  • @dopey473
    @dopey473 9 місяців тому +10

    Last time I heard of this game was on Ross' Game Dungeon, completely forgot it existed until now which is a shame since it's really a unique game.

  • @rashadnagi7531
    @rashadnagi7531 9 місяців тому +1

    New Civvie on my lunch break! Hell yeah.

  • @maroonstarsface
    @maroonstarsface 9 місяців тому +5

    Feels like many years of waiting

  • @chaosvolt
    @chaosvolt 9 місяців тому +2

    Aw yes. Now the cycle is complete (unless you count Hacx and Chex Quest).