How to listen like a therapist: 4 secret skills
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- Опубліковано 15 тра 2024
- Improve your relationships by learning the 4 secret skills that therapists use every day.
Timestamps:
0:00 - Introduction to active listening skills
1:22 - Reflect back what you hear
3:08 - Ask “What is this like for you?”
5:23 - Validation
8:04 - Understand ambivalence (motivational interviewing)
10:39 - When to do these skills and why they are hard
11:15 - Therapist secrets playlist: • Behind the scenes of t...
11:34 - Get comfortable being uncomfortable weekly challenge & comment of the week
13:27 - Additional video resources
- How to deal with emotions in a healthy way: • How to deal with emoti...
- How to overcome anxiety with exposure: • How To Start Overcomin...
13:35 - My Get comfortable being uncomfortable goal
14:49 - Thank you for an awesome 2019!
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I do this all the time with toddlers and little kids (in a very kind, empathic tone). This is why they adore me. I'm not special, I simply listen, validate their feelings, and sometimes I ask them if they can do something else next time, if its appropriate to the situation and they need redirection.
Especially important for children that age to be heard and validated in their feelings - so love that and it's so lovely to hear.
Kids love to be treated like that and heard and it helps them learn early too x
I'm a therapist, and I HATE the "and how does that make you feel" too. I believe it is a limiting question which doesn't actually allow the client to talk about their full experience. "What was/is that like for you?" is open to any answer when we can then work with and narrow down in whichever direction the client needs to take it. And ... I'm loving your videos! :)
100% agree!!! Thanks for taking the time to comment. Hope you are staying safe and healthy during this time.
My counselor keep asking me that. And i dont know what to say
Yes, that saying is so Cliche, ugh. I avoid it as well.
same!!!!! Absolutely cannot stand "how does that make you feel"
I'm a therapist and I agree. I rank it up there with "I understand". Not my favorite phrase lol
Not only are you an awesome psychologist, you're also very engaging and FUN to listen to. I hope to be a clinical psychologist like you!
Awww thank you!!!!
Ambivalence "talked" to my heart 🤣
Great video!!
Me too! I want to be a clinical psychologist too 💕
Some people do see validation as approval, and some people don't want to work through their experiences, but rather voice them over and over again to seek more validation
Some therapists also create this dynamic because they aren’t well trained. A good therapist will quickly get past the validations and into the healing and growth.
This right here. Had a friend who always painted herself as a victim to anyone who would listen. But the minute anyone try to dig deeper into her narrative, she would shut down the conversation and go complain to someone else who didn’t realize she was making up 80% of her stories
My counselor (therapist) doesn't seem to care ,it's a job ,employment, so to speak. Doesn't let me finish the questions he asks.
I feel like a piece of me dies every time after seeing him.
Thank God for my psychiatrist.
01:21 🎯 Therapist's secret skill #1: Reflect back what the other person is saying to show you're listening, increase empathy, and clarify understanding.
03:20 🧠 Instead of asking "How does that make you feel?" ask how the person is experiencing the situation to better understand their emotions and thoughts.
05:33 🌟 Practice validation to help the person understand that their feelings and experiences are valid, regardless of whether they make sense to you.
07:06 🤔 Understand ambivalence: Recognize when someone is torn between wanting to make a change and facing barriers. Ask what benefits they find in their current situation.
" get comfortable being uncomfortable =
"Consistent with your values.. " 😃
GREAT EXPLAINING!!
I adopted this into my sales interactions. It works for me when dealing with Lost Accounts and frustrated customers.
It works better in hospitality industry
This helped me understand my therapists intentions from their actions. When they clarify, I felt hurt that they compressed my issues into a couple of sentences as if it’s not that big. But now knowing it’s coming from a place of listening and meaning of understanding, I don’t feel angry anymore lol
Cool, love freedom from even a pain filled MISUNDERSTANDING.
This is an important thing for therapists to understand. I think I would feel this way too.
Maybe voice your interpretations with your therapist
This is honestly in my top 3 most important videos I have seen in my life. I have watched it like 20 times now because it made me realize how bad of a listener I was and could never make other person I was talking with comfortable. Thank you so much.
what are the other 2?
@@user-zu7xk9ki6f Other one is regarding diet. Especially how bad carbs are for your body. It is from Dr Eric Berg
@@michals2351 thank you!
I'm getting my ph.d. in clinical psycology, these will be soooo useful for me in the future. Thank you so much!!!
Melissa Silenzio from which uni?? I am planning to do masters in clinical psychology and then phd in the same.
Same, currently feel like I'm struggling in first sessions technique because I'm overthinking too much.
More therapists need to watch this video than you know.
Always good to have a refresher on these topics
@@drali Dr. Ali out here jukin’ and jivin’ like you don’t know what he really meant 😂
It’s so true that what you thought was important as a therapist was not an important aspect for the patient. As a patient I’ve experienced that, so it definitely is great when they reflect back, because we all have our schemas and tend to interpret events through those. ♥️
Thanks for sharing this perspective! Good to hear it’s true on both ends 🙌🏽
I’m a listener and I love listening to people a lot of people are very smart and already know what they need to do I love to validate them and make them understand that they’re on the right path listening is so helpful a lot of us just have so much in our head but once talking it out you begin to analyze and put pieces together 😊 I’m also an empath so I think this plays a huge part in it I hate seeing people sad or down we are not here to be anxious but here to just live our life and overcome our obstacles
I've just past a pychotherapy exam at 63 years old. I feel like I'm too old, my only regret is that I wished I did this years ago because I would love to be as good and confident as you and to help so many people. Thank you for all of your great advice 👍 I'm continuing learning as much as I can because I'm loving it 😀
That's great Susan! I'm right behind you at 54 years old and getting my Master's in counseling. Your life experiences will add a TON as a therapist.
@@bryanferguson4927 congratulations for achieving your maters degree, I'm so very happy for you, and a bit jealous 😀
I think it good people like you that keeps the word going
Well done Susan, I have similar concerns about being ‘too old’. I’m a university undergrad doing a major in psychology. I have an honours year after I finish my degree before I can even begin a masters program. I’ll be 55 by the time I have finished!
@@JoBrew You're brave and you can do it. I'll be finished with my master's at 56. I placed a large sign on the wall, above my computer, when I finally decided to go back to school and follow my dream. It reads, "WHATEVER IT TAKES..."
Student loan debt after 50 is a nightmare scenario.....as is the reality you'll pay on it for the rest of your life 🙄
I’m a grad student and just found this guy. He’s a likeable UA-camr and seems like a great communicator. I just subscribed and I’ll be using his channel as an additional resource - I’m currently taking Techniques class and start my practicum in January so I’m trying to absorb and practice some of these skills he’s talking about
Timestamps:
0:10 - Introduction to active listening skills
1:22 - Reflect back what you hear
3:08 - Ask “What is this like for you?”
5:23 - Validation
8:04 - Understand ambivalence (motivational interviewing)
10:39 - When to do these skills and why they are hard
11:15 - Therapist secrets playlist: ua-cam.com/play/PLItaCgXIQkHefVtJ4xObrbLipU5dds0ae.html
11:34 - Get comfortable being uncomfortable weekly challenge & comment of the week
13:27 - Additional video resources
- How to deal with emotions in a healthy way: ua-cam.com/video/_PxY-SPGl4w/v-deo.html
- How to overcome anxiety with exposure: ua-cam.com/video/D0pxEmdHlqs/v-deo.html
13:35 - My Get comfortable being uncomfortable goal
14:49 - Thank you for an awesome 2019!
Yeah, that looks like a topic list for future videos. Each of these is worth unpacking on its own.
+Bob Cunningham that’s a great point! Each one could be a separate video.
@@drali There is so much depth here to explore, yet many of us need skills we can apply today. I have no idea how you will strike that balance, but I'm here for the duration. It's like I want the "tricks" that will help me "get by" now, while simultaneously wanting the deeper knowledge that will help me understand what's "really" going on for the long haul.
@@bobcunningham6953 same
I really enjoyed this video. Are there any awesome books you'd recommend for a beginning therapist in training stage?
I’m a therapist for a year and a half now and it comes naturally:)
💯! Once you’ve been doing it for awhile it feels as natural as walking.
The Psych Show thank you. Everyday is a learning experience. I enjoy your videos! I am currently pre-license and I enjoy learning from other therapist who have amazing information, not only for newbies but for the public in general. Keep up the good work !
Thank YOU so much for your encouragement and kind words! Any type of videos you’d like to see in the future? Good luck on your journey. Hope you get a good self care break over the next two weeks.
What kind of approach do you use ?
My specialty is anxiety and I’m trained as a cognitive behavioral therapist (emphasis on the behavioral).
I'm a licensed therapist and I really love your videos! I'm a big believer in practicing nthe fundamentals to avoid the "expert mind" and your video really helps me remember some of the most powerful basic tools we can utilize to connect with and understand our clients!
Thanks!!
the “validation” piece is interesting-i think you need to be careful with that one. you don’t want to be the one ALWAYS validating them or they won’t learn how to have confidence in their own experiences. Exceptions I can think of are people who have experienced abuse/trauma and don’t trust their own feelings, and teens/kids who don’t have an understanding of “normal” or “appropriate” reactions.
I used to volunteer at a crisis hotline, and this was the exact training I was provided while working there. It works beautifully, but I've always struggled to apply this in my personal life
I’ll help you out with in, my sister
Classic motivational interviewing! Love the way you presented it!
im in school for psychology. really love ur videos/ please never get discouraged and stop because you are helping people out here alot.
I just stumbled across your videos and they're GREAT! So helpful, engaging, detailed and thoughtfully made. As a coach (who helps camera-shy people find the courage to get on screen, actually!) I've been told I'm an empathetic, non-judgmental listener and I'm always looking to get better and more intentional with my skills. But the skills you describe are also so valuable in personal relationships. Thanks for putting yourself out there, Ali!
Absolutely incredible information, spoken slowly, while keeping a great tempo to keep my brain stimulated with wanting to hear more. As a student in Psychology finding this was exactly what I was looking for on YT. Thank you!
This is a great refresher for me and a brilliant introduction. Really hope things are going well for you back in California and that you are all set up for next year.
Awesome! Thank you so much! I REALLY needed this video to help me be a better listener! I like how you broke down each skill.🙏❤
Almost three years later and this video was still very relevant and helpful!! Thank you!
These are the important skills needed for ever lasting relationships. Very well explained.
Excellent advice for therapist i’m a practicing counsellor and it’s so easy to get lost in your patient’s storey and the want to give advice and rescue. Thanks 🙏 I needed this grounding today x
This is a deep video. I have been on and off using these skills related to counseling and it allows for real and deep conversations with peers. The difficulty I face is when people start with their advices (like try out these things...) and it confuses me about how to respond then. I've adopted being assertive and it turns out to be helpful and an easy fix, but doesn't guarantee with the same amount of rapport with people in the long term.
What could be another option to break from hearing advices.
Thank you so much for all the content you've shared till now Dr. Ali. It adds on to the textbook knowledge and broadens my understanding.
Thank you. I need to practice my listening skill.
Thank you so much! I started talking about myself lately. I don’t understand why yet but I will learn and grow.
I just recently came across your channel yesterday and already you have helped me TREMENDOUSLY. I have fibromyalgia from having extreme generalized anxiety for most of my life and didn’t know what it was. Thank you and prayerfully one day we can speak. Be blessed🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
I think another thing that's really undervalued is simply asking the other person what they're looking for.
Sometimes they won't know, but a lot of the time, people will respond with answers like "I think I just want to complain." or "It would be nice to just be listened to, you know?".
To me, it feels more eye-to-eye than what's described in the video and even if you want to do what's described in the video, it won't hurt to know that's actually what you should do.
Im a first year psychology student and these videos are not only motivational but full of useful information that we can learn from. Please don’t stop posting such amazing content.
Hi, it's been 2 years since you commented this, but I wanted to ask (if it's okay with you) how is it going with your studies?
@@izabelarzodkiewicz2839 Hi, I’m still a second year student and its going really well because I’m passionate about it :)
Thank you Dr. you’ve helped me so much before a role play session for counselling.
Merry Christmas everyone, have a wonderful day :)
Thank you for all the work you have done this year Dr. Ali Mattu.
This is a really informative and helpful video! You are great at explaining it. I found after reflection that I thought I was a pretty good listener, but after this I realize I'm not as great at listening as I thought I was at all and that there was indeed much room for improvement. I want to be able to be better to those around me-- even though I already think I'm pretty good to them.
Thank you! As someone that has a lot of work to do on becoming a better listener for all around me, this was incredibly helpful. I will definitely be working on the four tips provided; with 'understanding the ambivalence' being perhaps the most important one to my given circumstances.
Wow I’m so glad I found this content. I appreciate your insight! ❤Thank you!! 😊
Wow, thank you for sharing so much knowledge!
I recognize this approach as a great method for self inquiry. It could push me past the pat self-recrimination into layers that could lead to self-understanding and untangling root causes. Great stuff
Thank you Doctor Ali Mattu! That is also a gold nugget at the end about the topic about when to press in to discomfort through anxiety! WOW! That was so helpful! Wow! You might consider putting that gold nugget in to a short 1-2 minute video because it is so valuable! I wish you well on your service to humanity.
I found your video to be really helpful in HOW to listen. I am completing a Master in Counselling in Australia and quite confronted by the microskills associated with active listening. You made it much clearer. Thank you so much.
thank you for all the tips! i took a non violence conversation classes about 3 years ago and i just connect everything you said to that. once you start practice and just do all that to yourself then it will become easier to communicate with others. and i really want to become a psychiatrist and im gonna watch all of your videos!
This video is much appreciated. I plan on becoming a therapist or something else that involves mental health, hence why I’m taking classes involving such topics, and this is helping quite a bit
What you didn't mention in this video is you used your voice tone beautifully and I'm sure it must help a lot when you meet with the patients. Thank you sir.
Wow, thank you for sharing these wonderful tips. Just listening to you explain these skills plus my writing them all down....I'm sure will help me the next time I find myself listening to someone and wondering how to help!
Thank you, thank you!! I work in community health and this is super helpful and applicable. Subscribed!
You’re awesome, Dr. Ali. Thanks for sharing.
I have just started my bachelor's in psychology.
I don't think i need to act like one right now but learning from now on will definitely make me better in future. I had my doubts but i am all focused now. Thank you for putting up these videos. Really appreciate it.🙏
Great video! Thank you for sharing the knowledge
Thank you Dr.
I appreciate your advice.
Thank you! This was extremely helpful
You seem like an excellent psychologist. My excellent counselor has gave excellent advice for every question I seriously was anxious for an excellent answer for. Helped so much
As always very helpful, thank you for that video.
Thank you for shating your expertise - I felt a bit tired but forceed myself to listen because you are so engaging. I am inspired. Thanks again.
I absolutely love your work!! I'm glad you're going to make more content
Thankyou very much very helpful 😀😀😀
Thank you for your outstanding videos!!! I look forward to listening to more in 2020. In the meantime, I will attempt to finish watching the rest of your videos on your channel.
Excellent explanation sir, I must appreciate the clarity of skills and motive behind that.Thanks a lot.
In this video I found answer of a lot of questions that were bothering me to learn the skill as a fresher in my course of study.
thank you so much! it really helped me with psychology
Thank you for your valuable advice, delivered in a friendly fashion!
Thank you so much for your videos! I am a teacher of English and we are having the course of basic Psychology with my advanced students now. I use your videos at my lessons and then we play out some situations based on them))! Thank you!
🙏🙏🙏thank you so much! My tutor never told me this in such an effective way.
Just stumbled onto this while wasting time. (Not meaning it is wasting time to listen and learn from you.) I learned a LOT about improving my practically nil listening skills plus about how some Others around me could also improve. Of course I know to work on MYSELF not try to judge, criticize anyone else's ways of doing anything. Thank you for your clear explanation(s) which you have so generously shared. Santa Monica, California
THANK YOU for the video & content!! 👏👏👏
Thank you so much for this! I am really getting into psychology and this rlly helps me be able to help my friends and family.
Thanks! Pure gold and so helpful.....
These are very "life coach-y" ideals -- about listening and asking questions to deepen the client's understanding of their own issue. Questions like "How do you feel?" or "Why do you think you that?" are asking the client to self-diagnose and, as you said, assume that they already have clarity about their feelings. If those things were true, they wouldn't need the therapy and/or coaching that they came to you for! As others here have said, I'm so happy you've said these things in such a clear way. Thank you! (And yes, the hardest thing for any of us to do is to ask a question and then shut up and listen to the answer!)
Great strategies even a lay person can follow. I plan to try hard to implement these as soon as my next conversation. Thanks.
Skill Number One: Reflecting Back!
- This happened to you and you experienced this you did this as a result, Does that sound right?
- When you reflect back then you realize how you missed the important details
- Everything is built upon this skill?
Skill Number Two: What is this like for you?
- People are feeling so many different things that they don’t know what they are feeling
- People have hard time putting words to emotions
- How are they experiencing this; what’s going on in your body? What was popping on in your head?
- One person really feels bummed or sad while other feels like hitting something or breaking something
- As you were describing this, how are you feeling this in your body?
Skill Number Three: Validation
- Always validate other persons emotion, if they make sense to you
- If I had been going through all of this, I would have been feeling this too!
- It makes so much sense you are upset about this x, y & z happened
- It’s not supporting or approving, you’re saying you get it and I might have done the same
Skill Number Four: Ambivalance
- Ambivelence is how much torn you are in changing your decision?
- What are the things you enjoy about this?
- How is this activity/habit helping you?
- What are the things you dislike about this?
- How willing you are to change this activity from 0 to 10
- What made you think so?
You are the first to make sense to me so far. I am a freshman in Human Services thank you. it just make a lot of sense
Very clear and positive it's very difficult when the person you are conversating with repeats their experiences over and over a long period and this video will help me to help a brother to reflect and seek a nother male to talk too as it's really surprising how grief effects males as to some females I've listened too.
This video is also helpful as I often wonder why certain deaths in my family has not effected me at all how I was able to except death from a younger age .
Much gratitude I'll keep looking at your playlist fantastic and very warming .
Excellent video, clear and concise. Thanks.
So grateful for this advice. Thank you so much!
+jonathan alcantara glad you found this helpful!
I am personally in high school but have friends who have a lot of mental stuff. I try to help and I am trying to give the best amount of help I could with my knowledge
I've come to do most of these naturally - I do also do the other things such as interripting, giving advice, leading the conversation on the basis of a misunderstanding because I didn't reflect back, or spiraling into talking about myself. But - I do most of the things you said here! And it makes me very happy because I value these things a lot.
I especially like asking extra questions, reflecting back and validating. I looove to tell people what exactly I find so understandable and what exactly I find is perfectly ok, even good, even important and healthy. And tell them what I find not ok but why I think it's understandable they did it. I do also like giving advice but in the form of questions. "Do you think doing ____ would help?" "Why not?"
I can say a lot more on the contents of the video but I'll stop here!
This is the first video of you I watch and I have a feeling this chanel will be a gem.
Also, I'm only since recently open to doing therapy. And to understand what therapists are even doing will be a huge help for me! I'm not the type of person who does well just trusting the process and following the guidelines. Because I don't understand it correctly. I see many possible options where others see one or two. So I have to understand things in more depth than regular people seem to need in order to be decently functional.
Two birds with one stone: I'll be able to be more helpful to my friends AND prepare for therapy!
Have you ever cried during a session listening to someone's situation? If so, how do you control yourself in that moment?
Personally, I actually allow myself to cry along with the other person -- I find that mirroring their feelings and validating their experience is an INCREDIBLY powerful tool if used properly. I never force tears, though -- they have to come genuinely -- and with practice have become able to remain present and grounded enough not to let my own emotions run away with me and steal the other person's thunder. Crying is incredibly cathartic and I wish there wasn't so much shame around it! Some of my own favorite therapists have allowed themselves to shed tears in the room with me. I'm an executive/business coach myself, not a therapist, so am curious what Dr Mattu has to say on this subject.
@@the.punkmonk love this, I've had my therapist cry while I was speaking and honestly made me feel like they were really listening, empathetic, and like I shouldn't continue to suppress emotions.
I'm also curious about this response. Personally, I remember being in session with a new therapist who started crying while I worked through the grief of losing my father. Seeing her cry was the most distracting thing for me and instead of being able to remain fully in emotions and process, I found myself trying to console her and deal with her response. Long story short, I thought it was best to find a different therapist.
@@naturallyours21 so, there are different levels of crying. I will allow myself to empathize with my clients and let my eyes get moist or a year or two to fall. But I *always* hold the stronger frame and keep the spotlight squarely on them. My function is to help them co-regulate, and not steal their thunder. If your therapist was taking over the room with their feelings, sounds totally right that you went looking for someone else. (It took me a long while to find a therapist that meet my high standards too, and it's been totally worth it!)
@@the.punkmonk I hear you and agree that it can be a useful approach to supporting some people. This example was my first experience working with a therapist. I am an empath and I'm very sensitive when it comes to the emotions of other people. Knowing the kind of support I needed, this particular person wasn't the best fit for me, but I was able to find a different therapist who was able to hold space for me in the way that I needed.
The best video I've ever seen so far.
This video was so helpful! Thank you
This is fantastic! I learned a lot. I will need to practice.
Thank you for sharing.
Thank you for watching and taking the time to comment!
Thank you Doctor. This is good ~clear~ instructions.
Excellent stuff, thanks for sharing.
Thank you for making this video!
Hello doctor Mattu,
I enjoy listening to your UA-cam presentations. It very educational and realistic. Thank you.
Super insightful and very helpful.
I’m trying to be a therapist myself but I recently been diagnosed with schizophrenia and lost confidence in myself in every meaning of the phrase . Which makes sense when you realize your whole life has been hallucination you would loose confidence . I haven’t really found a therapist to really talk to but as kid I always talked to myself as if I was my own therapist said things out loud talk to myself ( which is ironic cuz now I have voices in my head ) and your video help me realize that I haven’t been seeking help but validation. That these stories and hallucinations that I’ve been living in does mean something to me and should be treated seriously so thank you
I want to be a clinical psychologist in the future and you inspire me so much :)
loved this beautiful vid. so glad to have found you :)
Really a great skill when learning Dialectical Behavioral Therapy thanks for the information.
Oh my gosh. Dr. Ali Mattu, I've been in online theraphy since May 2020 and have consistently had confusing feelings about the effectiveness of the theraphy I've been getting... watching this video gave me the words, concepts I've been trying to find to help me explain what feels "off" in my many therapy sessions. If you have a video on how to "exit" a theraphy session, I would greatly benefit from it. Looking forward to the watching the other videos in your playlist.
Super helpful and insightful!
I love your channel. Thank you for sharing.
I will practice. I will reflect back to the other person. Reflect what they said. No interruptions. Empathy and understanding. Am I hearing you right? To know what you are experiencing. You have to care to become a shared understanding - notes I took from your video. What's life like for you?
Is this the general norm for everyone. Probably. we all suffer like this - wow - that's great to understand that now.
thank you for sharing your knowledge :)
This is an amazingly titled upload
I am training to become a Guidance Counsellor and I love your videos. So Glad I found your channel! Awesome content! New SUB!!!!!!!!
Thanks for your teaching
Love your videos! Thanks for being in the MH field and fighting the good fight! We are two brand new UA-camrs talking and educating on mental health! Love your content! Keep em coming!