I have worked at UPS for 44years. Started out as an unloaded the became a package sorter.I worked at two hubs. I started out on day sort,then had to go to the night at BEDFORD PARK. Transferred to twilight then moved to CACH in Hodgkins. Later returned to the DAY SORT for the last 16 years. I considered Package Car driver but I'm glad I didn't. My attendance was in good standings. I had started to have taken days off due to a change in my lifestyle. I hated missing days,then one morning woke up with pain in shoulders. It was then I decided maybe I should consider retiring. As of March 1st, after moving towards retirement, I finally left UPS for the last time.
Drive bro ups the best job without having to go to school it might be tough at first but be a man not a bi*ch it’s gonna pay off in the future man making 6 figures driving package or feeder you get great benefits all around you will be good .
@@TheQuintessentialMan. it’s hard hard work…. Lots of variables, that make it hard. Hours, the weather, the weekend work is a thing for awhile when new. It’s just plain ole hard work. But don’t let that scare you off…it’s the best thing I ever committed to! Driving. I’m a 30 year driver. In Redmond Washington. Happy to answer any questions.
Unloading and loading are both SEVENTY percent mental and THIRTY percent physical. If you know a thing or two about physics and energy conservation. Less movement in the power zone is definitely more. There are ways to make heavy packages travel further with 1 move than newbies often do with 3 or 4 moves. Watch for opens, leakers, HAZMATS, and Irregulars. Remember that preparation is huge no matter what shift anyone chooses to work . Handle only what your arms can reach and don't worry about everything else. Always use your HEADS Hydrate, Exercise, Alleviate stress, Diet right, and sleep/stretch daily and you'll be fine. If there's any tip I can give to new hires or temps, it's pick the brains of old school workers and get to know what it is that drives them to keep coming back to the daily grind.
As a belt tender, the supervisors do not train these unloaded right. I use to unload and learned to do DA, small sort, bagging, loading etc. Its nice know the operation within the whole wearhouse.
Working at UPS, probably has to be my second favorite job of my entire life. Met so, so , so many of my Friends/Work Colleagues/school colleagues there.
I have worked there for 2 years now and I have even done package delivery to so yes the company pays medical but if you become part of management you have to pay cuz you know longer can be in the union.
It’s about to be my third week at Ups and it’s very physical, not what I’m use to that’s for sure , I work in small sorts and even that can get crazy...when I had orientation it was only for a day and we went to training right away that next day. One thing that a manager said to us was if you’re getting frustrated or overwhelmed just remember they are just boxes...it has really stuck with me and helps me push through a stressful day.
I quit post 2 and a half weeks ago post working 6 weeks. They told us 17 a hour they paid 15 and it took a month for them to correct it. I never got a break yet they never paid for me not getn q break. They always screw u ur hours and I yet to be paid my last 2 paychecks. F ups I'm getn a attorney
Grabbed a part time for the benefits I work from 11pm-3/4am it's pretty easy & at some points your just standing in your load station w no packages coming down & times goes by pretty quick just put your air pods on & load some boxes doesn't get more simple than that. Joined to eventually get my CDL and a guy I met there is about to retire after working at ups for 15 years he joined when he was 20 & he's on his way to retire at 35 off of UPS. His kids are set as well. Definitely UPS > Amazon, FedEx & USPS
They might have something that you can retire after 15 years of service but I am sure it is not enough to live on ! They did mention his kids are set to ! So in my opinion he got Social Security Disability for some reason ! Possibly mental reasons ? Or damaged bone joints arthritis from repetitive motion ? I would call it a scam a tremendous amount of people seem to be able to pull that off now a days !
Something ain’t adding up with this story. I’ve been at UPS 12 years now almost 13 and me nor anyone else I know there can retire after 15 years and still survive let alone live comfortably
I was thinking of applying for a driver spot but here in my area and a 50 mile radius there really isnt anything available. All the package handler spots are part time but I need full time. I do see a position for a Warehouse LV which is full time and It looks like a forklift driver/warehouse worker spot. I think I might like something like that. Have you any knowledge of those type positions there at UPS? Thanks
I work as a loader in Portland, Oregon and making 27.00 since September in February it will drop back down to 21.00, they hired 27.00 to start in Sept. To then drop to 21.00. Every year the increase pay in September for the upcoming peak season. You get over time after only 5 hours of work. Even you only work that one day. I guess the pay is different all around the country where I find that Portland is #1 in pay
@Brian Hamilton, Since the union is involved, it's my understanding that the pay is the same all over the US for a certain job. That's why where I live it's great pay but you go to Dallas and it's no more than working at McDonald's.
Please if you can, tell me more details. State you live in, local union, salary, etc. I always want to hear positive regards from UPS. Theres a few negative comments here and there. Thanks!
I worked at ups for 2 years here in Missouri and its a well good job I started off as a package handler then i went to shorter then i went to drive the ups trucks the 18 wheelers and it was amazing i loved everyone there and great staff supervisors loved them but i left because i got a dream job i always wanted which is law enforcement and now im here.
I worked at ups when I was 18. 1998. I was convinced to leave my union position after a year or so for a supervisor position in the early am. I was 18 and 130 pounds. No one wanted to hear shit from me. I ended up leaving with my tail between my legs. Moved out west, did ecstasy too much got sick of myself and joined the coast guard. I learned a lot while at ups though and was able to draw on those lessons in other positions in life. It was an experience I was glad to have.
The worst thing you could do, is let them convince you to become a sup😂 they tried that with me, but I knew better. Nope, just give me that driver position😂🤣 it's not worth the stress and headaches
Both these replies sound like weak men that don’t have the fortitude to meet a challange. I’m okay with that though, you keep being weak I’ll take the promotion for you.
5+ years, actually working in the area of XR building simulations for new employees. UPS is a big company with many opportunities to go in different directions. Pilots, Drivers, Programmers, etc. One of the few companies that try to keep you if you are good at what you do.
Hi Brian, did UPS interview you when you first came in, or did they just have you fill out the application, and then did a background check on you. Did UPS also require a resume? If you could let me know. Thanks.
You must work at another company than the UPS , my daughter works a ups warehouse and she don’t don’t get any benefits for “9” months before she get any benefits. Also she only gets 18 to 23 hrs. A week
15.33 an hour now for package handler, there 3 months received the email to start driver training. Driver helper wage 19 an hour from thanksgiving to Christmas. As a part timer you are entitled to 3.5 hrs minimum per day, you can learn to move trucks in the yard if on nights for pre load the next day. Free medical kicks in after 8 months.
@@repentandfollowjesuschrist6170 15.33 now, yard switchers possibly an extra 10 cents more. Hang in there with a CDL and always check the board for openings
I was told I would get health benefits after 400 hours. After I hit my 400 my manager said oh wait it’s 9 months so I left to go to Amazon where I got my medical and paid time off on day 1 plus paid holidays. Ups can’t keep employees because it takes so long to get medical, time off and holidays! Ups could keep the good / great workers if they would offer more on day 1
I went from working on aircraft for 7 years at United airlines covid hit and times wery really uncertain so I left United and went to work on aircraft for UPS best decision I've ever made....
Yes! Not sure exactly how warehouse managers choose who is at which station, but there was 3 smaller females doing "small sort". Where they assemble 3 - 10 tiny packages into a larger zip up container. It kind of looks like an oversized pencil case. They weigh less than 5 lbs when full for sure.
Hi. Heavy packages aren't that much of a big deal. Of course, anything heavy will be on the bottom and depending on the size of the package, and how close the rollers are positioned near your wall, any heavy can be rolled to the floor then pushed to the wall. (This is what I do....unless it's a hazmat or fragile)
I worked for 14 years as a package handler. I would be interested to hear your opinions about this job if you stuck with it for more than 3 years. I regularly loaded 1400 packages in a 4 hour shift. I found some cool bosses with a lot of mean ones who were really mean. In Michigan, the buildings were heated to 40 degrees but in the winter time they opened all the doors for semis and so the building was 5-10 degrees. I was paid 22k a year for part time work with vacay and health insurance. Its a good part time job for high school education. However, I found it to be a toxic working environment. You mentioned that you get tuition reimbursement of 5K however that was only for management not union employees. In Christmas we would would 9-11 hour shifts with one 10 minute break. I quit because it wasn't a good job for someone in their 30s or 40's I also don't think its possible to make 80K a year as a part time preloader. Seems misleading.
Good luck with your job Brian, after a year RU still with UPS?? Great company to work for, yeah dirty tuff work. But the best job I ever had, second to none - worked until Dawn. Met great co-workers, friends and camaraderie. Looking to return, work in the Newark or Philadelphia HUB.
Just started working there this week, they raised the pay rate for part time package handler to 22$/hour which is great, but for me first week is really tiring, I basically load the trucks with heavy packages up to 70lb. or more, a lot of bruises on my forearms, some cuts at the back of my hand, and after the first two days everything hurts and sores, I had to take pain killer the next day in order to continue working, but that's probably because I never exercise before and just get into this job certainly, I was supposed to load at least 300 packages per hour onto the trucks, but I was really slow since most of them are too heavy for me. I learned to bring gloves and I'm thinking of long sleeves but it was too hot for that because there was no air conditioner or fans or anything because I think the building I work at was an ancient one so it's really old. Wouldn't recommend for someone who never exercise and skinny like me(I weigh only 120lb.) but since the pay is good and with a lot of benefits I'll have to endure it, maybe I'll get use to it in a couple more weeks or so, once I built up more of my stamina.
Hi sounds like your hub or preload ? If preload i was poo then became great . Did it for 1 year & a half . It’s a lot of work but being agile and knowing where your gonna place the packages is always a go too . Also try stacking some small ones together to bring in at once . STAY HYDRATED it’s definitely hot , also stretching and even try getting there a few minutes before start time so you can get some work done before it gets hectic just some tips . 💪🏾🥇
@@UchihaVengeance- Hey thanks for the tips, I've gotten used to it now after a little over a month, some of my muscles are still sores and my legs are still hurt from all the walking standing and climbing, I don't know if it's preload but they called us PCM. Question: Do you know what the exact pay rates are cuz when they let me fill in the union membership application they told me to fill in 22/hour but when I got my paychecks it was only 21/hour so idk which is the correct one, if you know please let me know.
@@sambatphu806 not sure what pcm would mean . As far as pay rate in my area stating 14 and some change. Once your there for a year you start to get a raise every august I’m pretty sure . Also not sure if I mention in my last comment but try to keep track of when you make up to a year . Should get a email but it’s always better to mark it so you get your vacation time. I had to go to my supervisor and ask ya know might be different for you.
2:55 at FedEx peak season suck because company take your weekends. So you have to forget about your dreams (Self employed), won’t be able study on your days off, parent that have kids for the weekend.
Be wary of the Teamsters pension especially from the western states that holds the Local 435 pension. It's been sending out mailers that unless they get a Congressional bailout they have a good chance of insolvency.
Driver positions are great if you want to work your life away. They get paid good and it's "relatively" easy work. I just didn't like signing my life away to be a driver for 60+ hours a week. I enjoy free time and want to continue my education. If you are fine with being worked to the maximum then its a gig for you.
If you worked 60 hours a week then that's on you. The union is there to protect you, use it. After 50 you can say absolutely not and there ain't a thing they can do about it.
I got paid 21 an hour to load and left after a month. Yes, it does get better than 21/hour at UPS lol... there are better opportunities and there is a way out. Honestly 21 isn't a lot of money especially in 2021.
UPS WHERE 60% OF THE EMPLOYEES ARE PART TIME.. THEY ARE EXHAUSTED,DISGUSTED AND BROKE..NEVER MADE MORE THAN $31K YR AFTER 12 YRS..DONT BELIEVE THE HIGH WAGE HYPE..UPS IS AWFUL
UPS management don’t care about people. They care about profits, numbers, period. They are excellent at producing revenue and built a magnificent, finely tuned machine.Unfortunately,they have no soul, no conscience in dealings with people. I know, this is my 44th year with the company. Why am I here?? For the money, baby!!$$$$$$Im a driver, I totally love and appreciate my customers, love my fellow drivers!!!💕💕💕💕I totally mistrust UPS MANAGEMENT. THEY illegally prevented me from driving for 8 years. The jokes on them. This is my 29th year as a driver. All the dishonest managers who kept me out of driving are long dead. Poetic justice. I was told to my face, I will never drive for UPS. I laugh all the way to bank every Friday!!!!🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Dude..no company ultimately cares about its employees. Thats why the unemployment office exist. Do your work, clock out, go home and collect your $$ friday. Stop looking for a pat on the back and a cookie.
You just summed it all up in a single paragraph. The first day that I ever went out to train with an on road sup doing the driving he stopped for lunch at 6pm and did paper work for about 30 minutes on the "lunch hour". However, the money was always good along with the benefits.
Brian I am weighing my options between Walmart and UPS. 1. Does UPS's tuition assistance program pay for books? 2. Does the program pay for tuition upfront or on the backend? 3. Does program limit which degrees that can be pursued?
As far as I know, the pay depends on the school and probably hub. There’s a certain list of schools around me that UPS would pay for upfront. But the one I chose and many other are paid afterwards depending on a passing grade
Don’t ever work at Walmart bro. I worked there for the past year. Worst job I have ever been and I worked at two different Walmarts because we moved across country. Terrible both locations. They do not care about you and will work you til you die. I just got hired at UPS. Much better pay and benefits with guaranteed raises every year.
@@bingoplayer is 100k+ a year worth your life? My dad worked at UPS for 40 years. He was a package carrier driver for about 15 years and then started doing feeders division where he would drive from Secaucus NJ to bertonsville MD and back every day for the next 35 years. He died recently at the age of 61. The overtime ate away at his life cause he got no sleep and couldn’t eat healthy. Yes he made a lot of money and as his 20 year old son, I had a very fortunate childhood. I loved my dad so much and always will. I wish he knew how much it would kill him tho.
@@mrcubbedpotato3196 Stop blaming the job. First off your dad thought it was worth it because in the end he gave you a great life. Second your dad could have ate better and gotten more sleep. Its takes discipline which most don't have. I eat well, and get enough sleep and work just as much as he did. I won't let my job kill me. My doctor told me the reason I was in good physical shape at my age of 50 is because of my work, walking 7 miles a day delivering for ups.
@@mO-gy8ee it’s a generality. I’m not talking about you, but given the jobs out there, I can only see working ups as a loader to be of necessity, and nothing else. At least it was for me.
Current UPS driver 7 years in, I've worked 6 days a week for the last 7 years. I get forced in every Saturday. Yeah the money is great but you will have no life. Just a forewarning for anyone wanting to get in as a driver
My dad worked at UPS for 40 years. He was a package carrier driver for about 15 years and then started doing feeders division where he would drive from Secaucus NJ to bertonsville MD and back every day for the next 35 years. He died recently at the age of 61. I am glad you see these things. Please don’t let the money keep you in a job that has you working overtime that’s slowly eating away at your life. I am his 20 year old son.
sound like you have it ezy, my location has boxes over 70 to 150 lbs when I can't lift 30lbs but they still hired me, draged out my hireing proses and then finaly I had some training a bs training hasmat vidios that I have not even finished, said that it was ok, no problem, they don't care about your helth and try to cheat you on pay. they clock you in on a peace of paper, and no AC in the trucks peaple who work for UPS have a lot of health problems. I have been hurt before and am not the stronges right now. felt like I would have got injurd
I just did the interview & drivers test the other day... they said I'm hired I got to meet the team. I start this Monday, but they said it'll all be online until Thursday... which I have NO FUCKING CLUE how to access!! I'm emailing my HR rep & going to hound with calls tomorrow before he's gone for the weekend... little stressed, but good luck brother!
@@whitephillip6997 I got the phone interview and all that, I am trying to schedule my road test but it says no available openings. Ive been checking almost every hour for a time spot to open up.
@@MikeAffholder I'm in Canada, BC. How about you brother? That's too bad... sometimes they don't have a truck available for the road tests I was told by the supervisor I met.
HARD WORK, but.......if you only have a high school education you won't make more money anywhere else. Drivers put in a TON of overtime. Healthcare insurance is unbelievable. Pension benefits are pretty good too. All of this being said, YOU WILL WORK HARDER THAN YOU EVER HAVE.
@@lawschoolpro $250 per week doing what? Idk just seems like you trying to talk people out of it and I wonder why. UPS is a great place to work for , that's all I can say
@@TxDuallyNation well probably because everyone I ever knew quit within a month. People that have been there long term hate their life. I’m starting to hate mine. Yah 250 a week. Unless you work doubles. I challenge anyone to do that in New Orleans, doesn’t matter what time of year. Pay here for package handlers is 15.50 an hour. By no means are you a package handler alone. It’s jumping from bulk, to clearing jams, to up and down the ladder sort, to in the trailer scanning and stacking. By far the most grueling job for the pay you can possibly have. I have a day job and try to swing both. I’m gonna leave ups soon. I can’t keep up. I’m physically fit. Was a rescue swimmer in the navy, and have lifted since I was 13. Nothing, and I mean nothing prepared me for the grind at ups.
I have 3 degrees, graduated top of my class with Honors. I served in the Army and deployed 3x and received valor medals and honorably discharged. Now I’m looking at moving boxes like a dummy. Fuck the American dream
@@macwhite7257 I achieved my dream. I established a farm in Hawaii from the ground up and started to become successful, making over 70k last year. But then I had it ripped away by an unlikely person in my very own family. Dreams are just that, dreams. Now I’m about to take a passionless job that will kill my soul. I’ll never dream again.
@@luke8222 I have gone to school and already exhausted my GI Bill so anymore school will come out of my empty pockets. But I hear you, I could always go for my PhD but it will be tough no doubt. I’m at one of the lowest points in my life so I’m just full of doubt right now
@@rudyisog702 drivers get the most hours. But if you build up seniority in the building you can get more hours. Most positions get almost the same hours; unload is done first, then sort/smalls then the loaders all in the same hour. But if you really want more hours you need seniority that allows you to stay longer than others. I have 4 years seniority that allows me to start 30 minutes early and when we’re done I have the right to choose to leave first, or stay til the end. I want hours so I stay longer than anyone else in my area. We also have another area where we repack boxes and with seniority we’re able to get an extra 1+ hours after shift there. Moral of the story, I’m able to get nearly full time hours with seniority and the position doesn’t necessarily matter.
I don't think it's possible to earn that much. I mean, in Canada, there is nothing close to that as a wage with this company. However, if I'm wrong then I'd love someone who works for ups Canada to clarify that. Cheers
They hire for part time Preloader - make you drive there waste gas and tell you there is low volume . Wtf ? What a complete waste of time /money and people that want to work get sent home . I have never seen anything like this company before .
itll be worth it in the end when you can buy a damn good house and a good decent car and have things you want in life. sometimes you have to make sacrifices
It's like working at a Chinese factory, so many hours, so much work, so little organization, turmoil, over the top hard head management, and very little freedom at the job.
Yeah for 60+ hours a week. I like the part time, good pay with time to live outside of work. And I have less regulations/responsibilities to care for than they do, it’s great
They make way more than that. Well the topped out drivers that are making 40 an hour in 2021 do. All the topped out drivers are making over six figures as long as they work at least 45 hours a week which most work more
@Great Heights im on your side. I was referring to other companies besides ups. How can you say in 2024 top will be 42 though? We start negotiating in august! Lol slow down man!
@@bradboisvert4892 im with you big brad! Can't wait for that..then we will get another bump once contract ratifies..and then the backpay cause this ones gonna be a loooooong fight!
If you don't mind working part-time for low wages first! Then you can take 5 more years until after twenty five years you finally have a fair paying job! Not worth it! Thanks for nothing Union!
I have worked at UPS for 44years. Started out as an unloaded the became a package sorter.I worked at two hubs. I started out on day sort,then had to go to the night at BEDFORD PARK. Transferred to twilight then moved to CACH in Hodgkins. Later returned to the DAY SORT for the last 16 years. I considered Package Car driver but I'm glad I didn't. My attendance was in good standings. I had started to have taken days off due to a change in my lifestyle. I hated missing days,then one morning woke up with pain in shoulders. It was then I decided maybe I should consider retiring. As of March 1st, after moving towards retirement, I finally left UPS for the last time.
Congrats man! A retirement well deserved. Good luck on your future endeavors
Mind me asking hey you didn’t want to drive.?I’m thinking of applying.
Drive bro ups the best job without having to go to school it might be tough at first but be a man not a bi*ch it’s gonna pay off in the future man making 6 figures driving package or feeder you get great benefits all around you will be good .
@@TheQuintessentialMan. no
@@TheQuintessentialMan. it’s hard hard work….
Lots of variables, that make it hard. Hours, the weather, the weekend work is a thing for awhile when new.
It’s just plain ole hard work.
But don’t let that scare you off…it’s the best thing I ever committed to!
Driving.
I’m a 30 year driver. In Redmond Washington.
Happy to answer any questions.
This guy is an undercover supervisor.
I worked at UPS for seven years as a PT package handler and utility package car driver. Retired with a Teamster pension. It was worth it.
What was top pay for package handler? Takes 4hrs
@@repentandfollowjesuschrist6170 I was making $16/hr at the end. People with at least five years full time were making twice that.
@@repentandfollowjesuschrist6170 each hub has a different pay scale
@@testingspirits7446 well done sir! 29 years in as a driver ! Two more to go. Enjoy that retirement life!
@@repentandfollowjesuschrist6170 It's different all over the place and differs around the seasons too.
Unloading and loading are both SEVENTY percent mental and THIRTY percent physical. If you know a thing or two about physics and energy conservation. Less movement in the power zone is definitely more. There are ways to make heavy packages travel further with 1 move than newbies often do with 3 or 4 moves. Watch for opens, leakers, HAZMATS, and Irregulars. Remember that preparation is huge no matter what shift anyone chooses to work . Handle only what your arms can reach and don't worry about everything else. Always use your HEADS Hydrate, Exercise, Alleviate stress, Diet right, and sleep/stretch daily and you'll be fine. If there's any tip I can give to new hires or temps, it's pick the brains of old school workers and get to know what it is that drives them to keep coming back to the daily grind.
thank sir for you advice. since im considering applying for ups
I am going to actually copy and paste this and send it to all my employees awesome opinion and advice i’m a part-time time preload Supervisor
Such a remarkable comment. I unloaded for Amazon.
im not even working rn and theyre still reminding me about hazards and lifting techniques
ffs
As a belt tender, the supervisors do not train these unloaded right. I use to unload and learned to do DA, small sort, bagging, loading etc. Its nice know the operation within the whole wearhouse.
I retired in 2015 after 40 years as a package car driver. I was making way more than that and now drawing a good pension.
Working at UPS, probably has to be my second favorite job of my entire life.
Met so, so , so many of my Friends/Work Colleagues/school colleagues there.
Well done video Brian!
Thanks man!
Enjoyed it!
I have worked there for 2 years now and I have even done package delivery to so yes the company pays medical but if you become part of management you have to pay cuz you know longer can be in the union.
It’s about to be my third week at Ups and it’s very physical, not what I’m use to that’s for sure , I work in small sorts and even that can get crazy...when I had orientation it was only for a day and we went to training right away that next day. One thing that a manager said to us was if you’re getting frustrated or overwhelmed just remember they are just boxes...it has really stuck with me and helps me push through a stressful day.
Lmao small sorts ha ha ha
I quit post 2 and a half weeks ago post working 6 weeks. They told us 17 a hour they paid 15 and it took a month for them to correct it. I never got a break yet they never paid for me not getn q break. They always screw u ur hours and I yet to be paid my last 2 paychecks. F ups I'm getn a attorney
@@daijin7126 I’m goin through that same thing right now as we speak 😂
smalls lol....thats the easiest
Grabbed a part time for the benefits I work from 11pm-3/4am it's pretty easy & at some points your just standing in your load station w no packages coming down & times goes by pretty quick just put your air pods on & load some boxes doesn't get more simple than that. Joined to eventually get my CDL and a guy I met there is about to retire after working at ups for 15 years he joined when he was 20 & he's on his way to retire at 35 off of UPS. His kids are set as well. Definitely UPS > Amazon, FedEx & USPS
Night sort! Me too! What hub are you at?
retired at 35? damn, good for him
They might have something that you can retire after 15 years of service but I am sure it is not enough to live on !
They did mention his kids are set to ! So in my opinion he got Social Security Disability for some reason ! Possibly mental reasons ? Or damaged bone joints arthritis from repetitive motion ? I would call it a scam a tremendous amount of people seem to be able to pull that off now a days !
Something ain’t adding up with this story. I’ve been at UPS 12 years now almost 13 and me nor anyone else I know there can retire after 15 years and still survive let alone live comfortably
Yea i call cap
i’m ditching my blue vest tomorrow but preloads like a paid workout fuckin love it
Lmao
I was thinking of applying for a driver spot but here in my area and a 50 mile radius there really isnt anything available. All the package handler spots are part time but I need full time. I do see a position for a Warehouse LV which is full time and It looks like a forklift driver/warehouse worker spot. I think I might like something like that. Have you any knowledge of those type positions there at UPS? Thanks
I work as a loader in Portland, Oregon and making 27.00 since September in February it will drop back down to 21.00, they hired 27.00 to start in Sept. To then drop to 21.00. Every year the increase pay in September for the upcoming peak season. You get over time after only 5 hours of work. Even you only work that one day. I guess the pay is different all around the country where I find that Portland is #1 in pay
Got word today that Portland day sort is going down to $23/hr next week
No I’m at the Seattle hub and if you stuck around peak season last year you get $27/hr. The new hires are at $22/hr. I’m still at $27/hr
@Brian Hamilton, Since the union is involved, it's my understanding that the pay is the same all over the US for a certain job. That's why where I live it's great pay but you go to Dallas and it's no more than working at McDonald's.
I’m a UPS driver, I love it and make a shit load of money 👍👍
Please if you can, tell me more details. State you live in, local union, salary, etc. I always want to hear positive regards from UPS. Theres a few negative comments here and there. Thanks!
There's an old saying at UPS: Part time works full time and full time works overtime.
It’s actually part time is full time, full time is all the time
@@mikeshirer4114
That's not what I was told but it's accurate nonetheless.
@@rickj1983 I guess it all depends on what part of country you’re from.
@@mikeshirer4114 Guess so. Happy UPSing!
Great video
I worked at ups for 2 years here in Missouri and its a well good job I started off as a package handler then i went to shorter then i went to drive the ups trucks the 18 wheelers and it was amazing i loved everyone there and great staff supervisors loved them but i left because i got a dream job i always wanted which is law enforcement and now im here.
Lol you did all that to be a coo lol
I worked at ups when I was 18. 1998. I was convinced to leave my union position after a year or so for a supervisor position in the early am. I was 18 and 130 pounds. No one wanted to hear shit from me. I ended up leaving with my tail between my legs. Moved out west, did ecstasy too much got sick of myself and joined the coast guard. I learned a lot while at ups though and was able to draw on those lessons in other positions in life. It was an experience I was glad to have.
UPS sets young sups up for failure when they send them out to direct employees who’ve been doing the job for 5-10 years. A lot of them are successful.
The worst thing you could do, is let them convince you to become a sup😂 they tried that with me, but I knew better. Nope, just give me that driver position😂🤣 it's not worth the stress and headaches
Both these replies sound like weak men that don’t have the fortitude to meet a challange. I’m okay with that though, you keep being weak I’ll take the promotion for you.
Thank you, thanks your good mood
5+ years, actually working in the area of XR building simulations for new employees. UPS is a big company with many opportunities to go in different directions. Pilots, Drivers, Programmers, etc. One of the few companies that try to keep you if you are good at what you do.
I mean they have to keep you unless you're in a specialized job. It's a union work place 😂
Hi Brian, did UPS interview you when you first came in, or did they just have you fill out the application, and then did a background check on you. Did UPS also require a resume? If you could let me know. Thanks.
No interviews just a job offer n if u can pass a background check u good to go
You must work at another company than the UPS , my daughter works a ups warehouse and she don’t don’t get any benefits for “9” months before she get any benefits. Also she only gets 18 to 23 hrs. A week
15.33 an hour now for package handler, there 3 months received the email to start driver training. Driver helper wage 19 an hour from thanksgiving to Christmas. As a part timer you are entitled to 3.5 hrs minimum per day, you can learn to move trucks in the yard if on nights for pre load the next day. Free medical kicks in after 8 months.
26/27 an hour where I’m at and our driver helpers get paid at the top driver rate here
@@macwhite7257 where u at I live in oregon
@@Marquies_Terry Portland bro!
Gunna start at Evergreen Alabamer at 15hr... whats the top pay for package handler? Do yard switchers make same as drivers? I already have my CDL A
@@repentandfollowjesuschrist6170 15.33 now, yard switchers possibly an extra 10 cents more. Hang in there with a CDL and always check the board for openings
Honestly how often do ups truck positions open up for package delivery drivers!!!
I was told I would get health benefits after 400 hours. After I hit my 400 my manager said oh wait it’s 9 months so I left to go to Amazon where I got my medical and paid time off on day 1 plus paid holidays. Ups can’t keep employees because it takes so long to get medical, time off and holidays! Ups could keep the good / great workers if they would offer more on day 1
Did you not go to your union steward to try and get it resolved?
I just applied at UPS, I’ll keep trying, package handler is good for me
I went from working on aircraft for 7 years at United airlines covid hit and times wery really uncertain so I left United and went to work on aircraft for UPS best decision I've ever made....
Can you do an update video?
Cant be fired for productivity... follow the methods take care of yourself, been at ups going on 7 years
Can you share the methods
@@catherineirvine5583 list goes on, ask a veteran driver!!
I'm like 90-100 pounds soakin wet. I'm not sure I could handle extremely large and heavy packages. is Small Sorting an option?
Yes! Not sure exactly how warehouse managers choose who is at which station, but there was 3 smaller females doing "small sort". Where they assemble 3 - 10 tiny packages into a larger zip up container. It kind of looks like an oversized pencil case. They weigh less than 5 lbs when full for sure.
@@brianmahon383 seniority, you have the right to change jobs when someone junior to you is hired and they get an easier gig like scanning or smalls.
You want a Christian husband miss 100 soakin wet?
Jenn S. Great problem to have. Now stay out of UPS. You're welcome.
Hi. Heavy packages aren't that much of a big deal. Of course, anything heavy will be on the bottom and depending on the size of the package, and how close the rollers are positioned near your wall, any heavy can be rolled to the floor then pushed to the wall. (This is what I do....unless it's a hazmat or fragile)
Go with composite or aluminum boots. Much lighter.
Boxes are nasty and dusty. Some sort of mask to improve air quality nit a bad idea ( warehouse).
i am in my mid 50s..wish i was doing this when i ws in my 20s, to late for me! but is good for u
Is UPS on campaign to make everyone thing it is the greatest place in the world to work”B.S”
I work at fedex, during the corona virus, my first peak was no where near as bad as covid freight
I worked for 14 years as a package handler. I would be interested to hear your opinions about this job if you stuck with it for more than 3 years. I regularly loaded 1400 packages in a 4 hour shift. I found some cool bosses with a lot of mean ones who were really mean. In Michigan, the buildings were heated to 40 degrees but in the winter time they opened all the doors for semis and so the building was 5-10 degrees. I was paid 22k a year for part time work with vacay and health insurance. Its a good part time job for high school education. However, I found it to be a toxic working environment. You mentioned that you get tuition reimbursement of 5K however that was only for management not union employees. In Christmas we would would 9-11 hour shifts with one 10 minute break. I quit because it wasn't a good job for someone in their 30s or 40's I also don't think its possible to make 80K a year as a part time preloader. Seems misleading.
They would have to be double shifting about everyday, depending on their pay rate
No way 80k a year part time..
i am working in ups as a loader and unloaded for first time i must confers that i really love working in ups .
Does anyone know for a fact if UPS allows for out of state transfers? I'm interested in a UPS driver position.
Talk to your hr about it
They do allow that, even to other countries
You can’t get out of package handler he’ll that easy v
I'm interested about this time for ups I think you can send one message if very specially for company ups before in Haiti
Good luck with your job Brian, after a year RU still with UPS??
Great company to work for, yeah dirty tuff work. But the best job I ever had, second to none - worked until Dawn.
Met great co-workers, friends and camaraderie.
Looking to return, work in the Newark or Philadelphia HUB.
Hello how are you doing
Are you still there?
What state/city are you in getting $14.5/hr?....I'm in Chicago and the starting pay is $20/hr
Still making $20? Or did that peak bonus drop you down? 😆
Just started working there this week, they raised the pay rate for part time package handler to 22$/hour which is great, but for me first week is really tiring, I basically load the trucks with heavy packages up to 70lb. or more, a lot of bruises on my forearms, some cuts at the back of my hand, and after the first two days everything hurts and sores, I had to take pain killer the next day in order to continue working, but that's probably because I never exercise before and just get into this job certainly, I was supposed to load at least 300 packages per hour onto the trucks, but I was really slow since most of them are too heavy for me. I learned to bring gloves and I'm thinking of long sleeves but it was too hot for that because there was no air conditioner or fans or anything because I think the building I work at was an ancient one so it's really old. Wouldn't recommend for someone who never exercise and skinny like me(I weigh only 120lb.) but since the pay is good and with a lot of benefits I'll have to endure it, maybe I'll get use to it in a couple more weeks or so, once I built up more of my stamina.
Hi sounds like your hub or preload ? If preload i was poo then became great . Did it for 1 year & a half . It’s a lot of work but being agile and knowing where your gonna place the packages is always a go too . Also try stacking some small ones together to bring in at once . STAY HYDRATED it’s definitely hot , also stretching and even try getting there a few minutes before start time so you can get some work done before it gets hectic just some tips . 💪🏾🥇
@@UchihaVengeance- Hey thanks for the tips, I've gotten used to it now after a little over a month, some of my muscles are still sores and my legs are still hurt from all the walking standing and climbing, I don't know if it's preload but they called us PCM. Question: Do you know what the exact pay rates are cuz when they let me fill in the union membership application they told me to fill in 22/hour but when I got my paychecks it was only 21/hour so idk which is the correct one, if you know please let me know.
@@sambatphu806 not sure what pcm would mean . As far as pay rate in my area stating 14 and some change. Once your there for a year you start to get a raise every august I’m pretty sure . Also not sure if I mention in my last comment but try to keep track of when you make up to a year . Should get a email but it’s always better to mark it so you get your vacation time. I had to go to my supervisor and ask ya know might be different for you.
Good luck wimp 👍
@@jayc4715 calm down
2:55 at FedEx peak season suck because company take your weekends. So you have to forget about your dreams (Self employed), won’t be able study on your days off, parent that have kids for the weekend.
Be wary of the Teamsters pension especially from the western states that holds the Local 435 pension. It's been sending out mailers that unless they get a Congressional bailout they have a good chance of insolvency.
Great company especially after high school if you want to join truck driver
God loves you so much man
did you had to do a phone interview ? becuase I have one tomorrow
I think so, will probably be pre-qualifying questions like, can you work the hours, can you lift 50lbs, are you authorized to work in the USA etc.
@@brianmahon383 thank you
@@brianmahon383 I got hired there without interview why they don't hire people full-time
What state do u work in?
Driver positions are great if you want to work your life away. They get paid good and it's "relatively" easy work. I just didn't like signing my life away to be a driver for 60+ hours a week. I enjoy free time and want to continue my education. If you are fine with being worked to the maximum then its a gig for you.
If you worked 60 hours a week then that's on you. The union is there to protect you, use it. After 50 you can say absolutely not and there ain't a thing they can do about it.
@@tylerbridges1330 not true in all hubs! Different locals
And if you want to make alot of money alot of jobs require longer hours
Peak season I learn the hard way. I’m only giving FedEx one year they really don’t believe in life and work balance
@@aaronrodriguez1410 I’m a single person no kids, no wife.. I don’t need to make a lot money
Ive been preloading for 2 years were getting paid 18 an hour and we start at 3am to 9 am
I got paid 21 an hour to load and left after a month. Yes, it does get better than 21/hour at UPS lol... there are better opportunities and there is a way out. Honestly 21 isn't a lot of money especially in 2021.
@@matthewreid1175 where you at getting more than $21/hr?
What does preloaders do? I just got the job
initial 200$ payment to join union?🤔
UPS WHERE 60% OF THE EMPLOYEES ARE PART TIME.. THEY ARE EXHAUSTED,DISGUSTED AND BROKE..NEVER MADE MORE THAN $31K YR AFTER 12 YRS..DONT BELIEVE THE HIGH WAGE HYPE..UPS IS AWFUL
I need a job anybody help
they cant get rid of you for not hitting the numbers that is incorrect they can only get rid of you for stealing time /stealing or threating someone
UPS management don’t care about people. They care about profits, numbers, period. They are excellent at producing revenue and built a magnificent, finely tuned machine.Unfortunately,they have no soul, no conscience in dealings with people. I know, this is my 44th year with the company. Why am I here?? For the money, baby!!$$$$$$Im a driver, I totally love and appreciate my customers, love my fellow drivers!!!💕💕💕💕I totally mistrust UPS MANAGEMENT. THEY illegally prevented me from driving for 8 years. The jokes on them. This is my 29th year as a driver. All the dishonest managers who kept me out of driving are long dead. Poetic justice. I was told to my face, I will never drive for UPS. I laugh all the way to bank every Friday!!!!🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Dude..no company ultimately cares about its employees. Thats why the unemployment office exist. Do your work, clock out, go home and collect your $$ friday. Stop looking for a pat on the back and a cookie.
🤣🤣🤣 Congrats! 👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿
You just summed it all up in a single paragraph. The first day that I ever went out to train with an on road sup doing the driving he stopped for lunch at 6pm and did paper work for about 30 minutes on the "lunch hour". However, the money was always good along with the benefits.
Brian I am weighing my options between Walmart and UPS. 1. Does UPS's tuition assistance program pay for books? 2. Does the program pay for tuition upfront or on the backend? 3. Does program limit which degrees that can be pursued?
Walmart doing what? Why not work both part time? That's what I'd do.
As far as I know, the pay depends on the school and probably hub.
There’s a certain list of schools around me that UPS would pay for upfront. But the one I chose and many other are paid afterwards depending on a passing grade
dog ups
Don’t ever work at Walmart bro. I worked there for the past year. Worst job I have ever been and I worked at two different Walmarts because we moved across country. Terrible both locations. They do not care about you and will work you til you die. I just got hired at UPS. Much better pay and benefits with guaranteed raises every year.
My hub tuition is only for management
They only good thing i got to say about UPS is their benefits A1 you wont find another better. Now thats it with the good
What aboit the $100k + a year??
@@bingoplayer I need people to stop promulgating this myth. Maybe if you’re there 50 years, and work doubles. That’s maybe.
@@bingoplayer is 100k+ a year worth your life? My dad worked at UPS for 40 years. He was a package carrier driver for about 15 years and then started doing feeders division where he would drive from Secaucus NJ to bertonsville MD and back every day for the next 35 years. He died recently at the age of 61. The overtime ate away at his life cause he got no sleep and couldn’t eat healthy. Yes he made a lot of money and as his 20 year old son, I had a very fortunate childhood. I loved my dad so much and always will. I wish he knew how much it would kill him tho.
@@mrcubbedpotato3196 Stop blaming the job. First off your dad thought it was worth it because in the end he gave you a great life. Second your dad could have ate better and gotten more sleep. Its takes discipline which most don't have. I eat well, and get enough sleep and work just as much as he did. I won't let my job kill me. My doctor told me the reason I was in good physical shape at my age of 50 is because of my work, walking 7 miles a day delivering for ups.
I worked on the inside before becoming a driver and I hated it on the inside😂😭
Everyone does. Only psychos could like that shit
@@lawschoolpro like working inside at UPS the last 23 years guess that makes me a psycho lol
@@mO-gy8ee it’s a generality. I’m not talking about you, but given the jobs out there, I can only see working ups as a loader to be of necessity, and nothing else. At least it was for me.
Current UPS driver 7 years in, I've worked 6 days a week for the last 7 years. I get forced in every Saturday. Yeah the money is great but you will have no life. Just a forewarning for anyone wanting to get in as a driver
My dad worked at UPS for 40 years. He was a package carrier driver for about 15 years and then started doing feeders division where he would drive from Secaucus NJ to bertonsville MD and back every day for the next 35 years. He died recently at the age of 61. I am glad you see these things. Please don’t let the money keep you in a job that has you working overtime that’s slowly eating away at your life. I am his 20 year old son.
UPS sucked in Toronto when I worked there.
sound like you have it ezy, my location has boxes over 70 to 150 lbs when I can't lift 30lbs but they still hired me, draged out my hireing proses and then finaly I had some training a bs training hasmat vidios that I have not even finished, said that it was ok, no problem, they don't care about your helth and try to cheat you on pay. they clock you in on a peace of paper, and no AC in the trucks peaple who work for UPS have a lot of health problems. I have been hurt before and am not the stronges right now. felt like I would have got injurd
You guys don't got day sort I work in ups la mirada in California in revenue recovery I go in at 12 pm and im out by 3:45pm
Most hubs don’t have day sort. Only the bigger ones do
@@macwhite7257 makes sense
Good Afternoon Brian I start this Monday morning as a part time package handler should I be there at 4am or at 8am
Uhhh your application should tell you that. Not a random video. You picked the day and time you started..
@@tiffanyv4205 Thanks I start in the morning, Again Thanks
how do you feel physically with 4 hours of work at ups ? is it so much hard ??
In Ohio they are hiring drivers off the street. Insaine I applied immediately. Hopefully I get in!
I just did the interview & drivers test the other day... they said I'm hired I got to meet the team. I start this Monday, but they said it'll all be online until Thursday... which I have NO FUCKING CLUE how to access!! I'm emailing my HR rep & going to hound with calls tomorrow before he's gone for the weekend... little stressed, but good luck brother!
@@whitephillip6997 hope you figure it out. Where are you from?
@@whitephillip6997 I got the phone interview and all that, I am trying to schedule my road test but it says no available openings. Ive been checking almost every hour for a time spot to open up.
@@MikeAffholder I'm in Canada, BC. How about you brother? That's too bad... sometimes they don't have a truck available for the road tests I was told by the supervisor I met.
@@whitephillip6997 I'm in Ohio, US. Oh ok I was wondering darn hopefully soon. 🙏 Good luck with everything!
Companies that have tuition remission are great.
Distinguishes them from other second rate companies. Just saying.
Where’s the 80k number come from?
Yo mommma told me
Driver positions top rate 40 an hour
Work a bunch of overtime and you'll make 80... or abouts
Full time driver top rate in 4 years is 40 per hour
@@repentandfollowjesuschrist6170 nah top rate driver is guaranteed roughly 83k
I start tomorrow I’m excited I eventually want to be a driver… package handler starts off at 27/hr
Are you dead serious !?
@Big Nii nah they do start at 27 now
@@maleekpate6770 Atleast in Cali it is
Pa starts at 19 for part time package handlers, really not bad still
$20 where I live in NY
HARD WORK, but.......if you only have a high school education you won't make more money anywhere else. Drivers put in a TON of overtime. Healthcare insurance is unbelievable. Pension benefits are pretty good too. All of this being said, YOU WILL WORK HARDER THAN YOU EVER HAVE.
You get paid to work out💪🏽
@@macwhite7257 a real man,I see
Yup I’ll be making 110k this year. No degree. Weekends off.
@@Royalewithcheesee nice, driver?
@@macwhite7257 yes sir
What is it like making 80k a yr? Pt time package handler aren’t making that I know I worked there
Truth. Me too. I want this myth dispelled. By the time you pay taxes and union dues you’re lucky to catch 250 a week.
@@lawschoolpro yeah sure... where's you HUB in Timbuktu??🤣🤣🤣
@@TxDuallyNation New Orleans
@@lawschoolpro $250 per week doing what?
Idk just seems like you trying to talk people out of it and I wonder why.
UPS is a great place to work for , that's all I can say
@@TxDuallyNation well probably because everyone I ever knew quit within a month. People that have been there long term hate their life. I’m starting to hate mine. Yah 250 a week. Unless you work doubles. I challenge anyone to do that in New Orleans, doesn’t matter what time of year. Pay here for package handlers is 15.50 an hour. By no means are you a package handler alone. It’s jumping from bulk, to clearing jams, to up and down the ladder sort, to in the trailer scanning and stacking. By far the most grueling job for the pay you can possibly have. I have a day job and try to swing both. I’m gonna leave ups soon. I can’t keep up. I’m physically fit. Was a rescue swimmer in the navy, and have lifted since I was 13. Nothing, and I mean nothing prepared me for the grind at ups.
I wana drive more than anything
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Video not warehouse
Me 😐
I have 3 degrees, graduated top of my class with Honors. I served in the Army and deployed 3x and received valor medals and honorably discharged. Now I’m looking at moving boxes like a dummy. Fuck the American dream
The dream is what you make it
@@macwhite7257 I achieved my dream. I established a farm in Hawaii from the ground up and started to become successful, making over 70k last year. But then I had it ripped away by an unlikely person in my very own family. Dreams are just that, dreams. Now I’m about to take a passionless job that will kill my soul. I’ll never dream again.
@@Fit.For.A.Firefight. not with that attitude you won’t 😂
If you don’t want to do that, why don’t you go to school? Military will pay for a lot of it…
@@luke8222 I have gone to school and already exhausted my GI Bill so anymore school will come out of my empty pockets. But I hear you, I could always go for my PhD but it will be tough no doubt. I’m at one of the lowest points in my life so I’m just full of doubt right now
Philly Ups paying 15/hr n paid training
Unload is the best spot in the building
Na driving, still union and bout 100k year plus excellent benefits
@@garrettmoore5114 that’s why I said in the building lmao
Nah there is a bunch more just takes years to get to those positions
@@aaronjimenez8826 witch position gives more hours
@@rudyisog702 drivers get the most hours.
But if you build up seniority in the building you can get more hours.
Most positions get almost the same hours; unload is done first, then sort/smalls then the loaders all in the same hour.
But if you really want more hours you need seniority that allows you to stay longer than others.
I have 4 years seniority that allows me to start 30 minutes early and when we’re done I have the right to choose to leave first, or stay til the end. I want hours so I stay longer than anyone else in my area. We also have another area where we repack boxes and with seniority we’re able to get an extra 1+ hours after shift there.
Moral of the story, I’m able to get nearly full time hours with seniority and the position doesn’t necessarily matter.
I don't think it's possible to earn that much. I mean, in Canada, there is nothing close to that as a wage with this company. However, if I'm wrong then I'd love someone who works for ups Canada to clarify that. Cheers
They told me after 7 or so years I'll be making $37/hrs minimum. That's in Canada, BC
100k+ minimum
I’m making $37 in Denver
As a handler?
@@dawsg406 feeder
@@bhackl34 sweet thanks!
well give yourself a metal
@@bill-nj6fc you jealous lol 😂
$41.51
Local 449
LoL, # 800 to like this & I'm a former usps city letter carrier
Sure you can make 80k if you were a driver or a thieving supervisor.
im 46 years old so way too old to start working there unfortunately
That’s not old! It’s all about mentality
They hire for part time Preloader - make you drive there waste gas and tell you there is low volume . Wtf ? What a complete waste of time /money and people that want to work get sent home . I have never seen anything like this company before .
All of this sounds like company propaganda
80k as a driver In the first few years is possible but work will be your entire life.
itll be worth it in the end when you can buy a damn good house and a good decent car and have things you want in life. sometimes you have to make sacrifices
@@Insomnia-uu2zq not everything is about a good house & car
Many people say that job in UPS/FedEx is very hard, somebody even says that it's like a plantation slavery.
It's like working at a Chinese factory, so many hours, so much work, so little organization, turmoil, over the top hard head management, and very little freedom at the job.
Drivers should be paid 2 or 3 times what they’re making…it’s hard work!
@@testingspirits7446 What about the warehouse workers filling up them trailers and trucks and doing all the hard ass work
@@waynejeffery6995 The people loading and unloading trucks have help…the drivers have to unload their trucks by themselves, and do pickups.
@@testingspirits7446 drivers are topped out at 40 dollars an hour in 2021. That’s a very good salary
Fyi..most drivers over $100,000 easy.
Yeah for 60+ hours a week.
I like the part time, good pay with time to live outside of work. And I have less regulations/responsibilities to care for than they do, it’s great
Most drivers don't make over 100k, sure some do but they ain't working 40hrs a week
Only the most senior drivers who know how to work the overtime opportunities.
Most drivers at our center aren’t making that much.
@@macwhite7257 simple math..40 an hour- 40 hours aweek + 1.5 hours a day ot 100k.no weekends.. back to elementary school you go
@@macwhite7257 so basically you like living with no money and you dont have anything.. shooting for the stars!
You will not make 80k a year preloading or unloading
Click bait you're not going to make that cash. Please don't lead them on . I've been here from the age of 18 and now 47 relax please.
Your dues arnt spread over 8 wks. dummy. That's your iniation fee
You can make 80k driving a truck with pretty much any company
They make way more than that. Well the topped out drivers that are making 40 an hour in 2021 do. All the topped out drivers are making over six figures as long as they work at least 45 hours a week which most work more
And be home every night? Wrong..those companies pay about 30 an hour..when you top out..
@Great Heights im on your side. I was referring to other companies besides ups. How can you say in 2024 top will be 42 though? We start negotiating in august! Lol slow down man!
@@bingoplayer as a feeder driver myself this coming August we will just shy of $42 an hour
@@bradboisvert4892 im with you big brad! Can't wait for that..then we will get another bump once contract ratifies..and then the backpay cause this ones gonna be a loooooong fight!
not worth it they try to kill u lmao
Did they pay you to do this?🤣🤣🤣🤣
Very dysfunctional company. Pass
Elaborate?
they have been around for over a hundred years , so they are doing something right
@@MrBearcatjew Yes. They are VERY good at taking advantage of people.
@@jneusbaum3697 Like most of big successful companies.
@@jneusbaum3697 yup when they cut my $2000 check weekly i feel so violated..
Then don't work here. Go to work as a loffer
If you don't mind working part-time for low wages first! Then you can take 5 more years until after twenty five years you finally have a fair paying job! Not worth it! Thanks for nothing Union!
Your definitely not gonna make it