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Hey, that point at about 25mins where you were saying that the brain will attempt to fabricate a reason for an unknown reason to a conclusion. I don't recall ever experiencing that, if you ask me why I got the cookies I would say, "I saw the cookies and wanted them. I didn't come here for the cookies, but like, why not?" I may be misunderstanding the whole thing, but I feel like that isn't the conclusion phenomenon.
uhh, I just got to the first doctor f-bomb and had to see if there were comments. It feels so contrived and blatant when psychs do this. I have talked to several psychs through out the years and its always the young male ones that love to do this with certain types of clients (me and apparently michael reeves) and its soooo obvious they are doing it to try and connect with you. like they wouldn't have said it in a normal casual conversation outside of work but because I swear a lot they feel like they need to as well. I have no doubt this must be taught in every psych program ever. I don't dislike them for doing it, I've just only ever talked to one shrink who did it convincingly.
@@ezaf5989 How many times are you going to write the same thing? You seem to be overly focused on his acne in several comments here already, are you trying to beat out your own insecurities by focusing on something you deem as a negative on someone else?
1:10:15 "... I don't think you don't love your parents. I don't think your parents love you." LMAO that's an unfortunate misspeak. I like that Michael catches that and laughs as well in the background.
He misspoke and said “i dont think your parents love you” he forgot to make it a double negative. And that broke the seriousness for a moment. And then he continues with the previpus topic of special needs. But because of that funny disruption it sounded very out of context making it also very funny 😂
The people saying this stream wasn’t as emotional as they liked or Micheal seems “too stable” for this seems ridiculous to me. People who have their “shit together” or have a higher sense of self awareness seek therapy all the time.
Jeff B who said he must open up with all his shit? It’s not consultation as dr said. Why people wait he will cry and tell about all insecurities he has especially if they related to people he loves? People wait for the show and don’t care how Michael will live with it after. It was interesting and deep conversation. For people who think it gave some answers. People who like drama and feeling stuff laughed in some places. Maybe this is enough?
@@SoGoodToBeReal I feel like people don't really know what happens in a real therapy session. And it's publicized and free, he can only do so much. People are just asking too much and they assume everything
@Jeff B I'm not sure about Michael not having his shit together, we don't know him enough as a person to make a judgement on that. All I'm sure is that he isn't opening up at all.
In my experience, this is a lot like a normal therapy session. Not every session is a weepy revelation. The therapist is there to guide the patient through their thoughts and make sense of them. That’s largely what happened here. Also your first session isn’t going to be a big breakthrough. It takes time. On top of that, in a regular therapy session, everything you say is confidential (unless you talk about a situation where a child or elderly person could be harmed, stuff like that). That’s a big part of being able to “open up.” If other people want to do that on this show, that’s fine, but Michael is clearly learning stuff that could benefit him in his daily life. That’s what therapy is for. It’s very clear they’re working through messy emotions and making sense of them. This is my first time watching this channel and I really enjoyed it, as someone who is actually in therapy (and struggles with their own existential dread).
Dr.K: "I assume my family is behind me in the house, even though I don't know that" Door opens... 25:50 Michael: "Oh I know that" I cried from laughter, that timing was so good LOL xD
This has been really educational, but you can't ignore the hilarious parts: 1:10:13 "I don't think your parents love you" 1:10:29 "I think you're a special needs kid" 1:31:40 "Sorry we've been using diagrams?" 1:44:34 "Am I gonna like twerk?" Dr. K: "What is that?"
It's fascinating how Michael showed his anxiety by twitching the knob on his mic and then Dr. K told him that doing physical actions helps keep him in the present at the end. It was very insightful seeing how Michael subconsciously found a coping mechanism to bring him to the present and Dr. K provided insight into why this might be the best possible option for him to remain in that state.
@@Final_RPG You make it sound like you know what he's feeling lol. Michael quite literally said he thinks psychology is interesting. Showing signs of anxiety in a conversation with a person you don't know well isn't the same as 'not giving a fuck' or 'wanting to leave'
@@Final_RPG Bruh I think Micheal willingly came to the interview, do you seriously think basing off of his character that he plays in his channel would prove Micheal didn't care?
Michael comes across as a really smart fellow. I mean the way he asks questions and leans into what's going on. "Do you go inside a lot to deal with the dissonance?"; "Do you see multiple paths?"; "You're gonna lead me somewhere?". I don't know how else to explain this but I really like it.
This is the importance of mathematics! Michael is very good at spotting derivative functions. Except he's doing it within the confounds of discrete math. Basically, it's the cornerstone of provable logic. Think about it like this, Michael is very good at spotting the equation that produces the words Dr. K said to him. Michael is very good at spotting algorithms. That's why he's very good at computer science. When he creates code, he can't just speak what he wants the computer to do. he has to think about what he wants, break down the result in a definable metric, then communicate a function to a computer that will produce the exact results he wants.
It's called mindfulness. Some acquire it later than others, while some are forced to acquire it earlier due to the nature of their upbringing. Some acquire it through drug usage, while some acquire it through meditation. Some acquire it through intense struggle and perseverance, while some acquire it through unfortunate circumstances that they find themselves trapped in. Some may acquire it with a combination of all the things I listed while some may acquire it with none of the things I listed. And then some may live their entire life on autopilot and never acquire it. The point is that, everyone's experience is different, which entails that everyone's path is different. This awakening of mindfulness is understanding how your actions and intentions (and others') affect yourself and others on an objective and fundamental level. Some call this "being woke", some call this "being enlightened", some call this "being objective", some call this "being aware", and some may even call this "being intelligent". The beautiful thing is you can digest this truth however you want to digest it. Whether that be spiritually, religiously, scientifically, etc. It doesn't actually matter, the result is the same. A mindful person may have already come to the conclusion that "being enlightened" isn't actually as good as it sounds. He might say, "Now I think I know how to understand everything, but at what cost? This newfound "enlightenment" just causes me to suffer." Yes imaginary man, you are half right, but you are also half wrong. It is a double-edged sword. You are essentially eating the apple from the Tree of Knowledge by discovering this awareness. One might think, "before this realization I didn't have to fix anything about myself, I didn't have to ponder whether or not I am surrounded by good or bad people, I didn't have to have hold myself accountable outside of social or political judgment. Life was easier." And while these thoughts may be true, they are only one side of the coin. The other side is, "before this realization, was I truly alive? Was I actually in control? Was I my most authentic self? Did I have autonomy? Was I living my own life, for myself?" Regardless of the path you were pushed to take or the journey you are currently on, you are here now. Sure, life is a lot harder now with this newfound wisdom, but you are the driver now. So you gotta learn to roll with the punches baby. Thank you for coming to my Ted Talk.
I was immediately compelled to respond to the OP here, but I laughed when I saw the comments, as I am also a person who likes to delve into things and make long hypotheses, sometimes with unsolicited advice sprinkled in - for better or worse. And as of yet, it seems apparent that these are the only types of people who feel to compelled to respond to this particular comment. Now that I can claim the shortest comment so far, I feel proud to have successfully resisted the urge to go too far on a tangent 😅 I think you guys needed it more than me. Take care guys. I hope it got you what you needed.
@@someguy1994 I believe your understanding is in many ways correct and that the way you described Micheal has lots of merit, but it doesn't encapsulate enough of it. if we imagine Micheal as an pillar your reasoning might steel cable keeping it too not swing to far ( 28:03). In truth you haven't still gotten to the foundations of that pillar.
Despite not being as emotional as some people maybe expected, I think I learned more from this session than I have during many others. Was nice seeing a sorta scientific conversation.~ Despite the boomer and zoomer dynamic.
I don't know, i got the feeling all throughout that Michael was incredibly closed off, in a "i'm going to give you the bare minimum of information about me so that this doesn't get too awkward"- kinda way. Also, by his demeanor it felt like he didn't really have much faith in therapy in general, and that he wasn't taking this talk seriously. Maybe someone pressured him into this? Another impression i got watching, is that he was overly focused on what people viewing the interview might think about it and how cringy or not the things said might look to them, which generated some reactions on his part that i think could be seen as disrespectful : lots of deflecting, laughing at the "gifted kids are special needs kids" remark, or interrupting to ask questions ->which felt more like him trying to gain some control of the conversation as opposed to just being in the vulnerable position of asking for help. It felt like he was trying very hard to seem completely unbothered, as if this was just a casual chat. I'd guess there's more there than just anxiety and poor self-esteem, he also seems very uncomfortable with expressing his feelings. Maybe i'm reading all the wrong things into this, but i think he approached this with the wrong mindset. He could've gotten A LOT more out of this talk with Dr. K.
@@razvansocol1966 He was definitely closed off, but it also does seem to be because of the reasons Dr K talked about; that fear of coming across as stupid, not being used to relying on anyone else. Outside of being around Lily, this is the first time he's been spotlighted with the expectation of being open about himself so he's probably bound to have felt uncomfortable. Maybe a private session would help him more, or a second session now that he's more familiar with it.
@@razvansocol1966 idk, I don’t think he was pressured into this. On the podcast he said he was opened to talking to dr K because he find it’ll be interesting. I also don’t think anyone would pressure anyone to do this or else all of them would be doing it but for etc feels uncomfortable talking to a live audience and every time he mentions it the other OTV people respect him on that. I feel like he’s just a closed off person in general and maybe just feels uncomfortable opening up. He is also pretty closed off in general talks and podcasts. I think he is probably very anxious about this, along with his low self esteem but he’s just a guy who seems confident (like he said) even when he may be not. Then again I’m also making assumptions
43:00 That right there is probably the most beautiful thing i've ever seen in a conversation. Taking your time to actually give a really good and fitting answer, and thus showing so much care, is just heartwarming. Such a little but impactful thing to do
Some people think others are fake when they take time to actually think about how they want to respond. They believe that they’re searching for what the person wants to hear as opposed to answering from the heart. I think that’s unfair and id much rather have a person answer thoughtfully than just say the first thing that comes to mind.
Strange hearing this, I'm OBSESSED with learning, and the reason behind that for me is because of my Anxiety. Learning more allowed me to rule out more worries, by understanding physics, science, etc.
When he was telling Michael to go back and imagine a 22-year-old version of himself being there for himself, I immediately started crying as I imagined being there for little me. I think I might have some stuff to work through lol
hi James, glad you can cry about it. Men should. Yes we all do have stuff and need to work through it. find good people to talk to. but, not everyone. I got into a trap of talking to everyone but really only a few have the capacity to relate.
Perhaps you are intelligent The problem is that smart people are too anxious and awkward to go out in front of the less_smart ones and emit their superior brain power A lot of smart people are even afraid to go outside They don't see the point in going out Some don't do anything with their lives because they live in fear
25:47 When Dr. K is talking about his family being in the house and someone opens a door to which Michael replies "Oh I know that" Top tier comedy, I hope I'm not the only one who noticed that
1:39:35 was also a funny one. "Questions for me?" "Nooo, not reeally" "Ok well one question you might have is 'what do I do about it...". Michael had 95% of his attention focused on not sharing anything emotional through much of this, and it says a lot about Dr. K that he still navigated to give ideas for Michael to think about later regarding existential dread and low self confidence possibly being related to feelings that he can only rely on himself, which in turn might be deeply imbedded because they are tied to very old experiences Michael has yet to process analytically. Interesting stuff, and neat to see a professional help someone who is not all that open to being helped yet. He's only 22, no judgement here.
I was just introduced to him for the first time through Disguised Toast and the video of them together made me laugh so fucking hard. I used to watch Dr. K but something about him threw me off and NOW I FUCKING GET IT!!!! HE'S GOT THE SAME BAD QUALITIES AS J.P.!!! I thought he was an expert but he's really not, and watching Michael laugh when Dr. K called him special needs was hilarious. It's so ironic and judgemental. As if Dr. K has any right to determine what is normative human behavior.
WHO even is J P? That's not really relevant though, slips of the tongue happen and awkward phrasing will always be awkward Dr. K is a legitimate doctor qualified to work in a hospital and as a psychiatrist
He doesn't really talk much about his emotions though.. But yeah, I see your point, Dr. K is indeed impressed with Michael with how he thinks rather than he feels and how self-aware he is of himself.
@@ronaleelopiga2927 He does talk about his emotions, just not through the lens of emotions. I relate with Michael on this point; I usually try to process things logically. Understanding yourself rationally is comforting.
@@joeblow9275 Dude! It's gratifying to read someone else say this. I've always hated how people demonize rationality and intelligence like it's a straight rail-way to Anxiety and Depression. No. I've found that the ability to be open-minded and self-skeptical while reasoning through one's own issues can be therapeutic. But speaking with others who are also open-minded and intelligent can help us realize the truth more creatively- but ESPECIALLY living new experiences. Basically, it's being intelligent with TOO LITTLE DATA that can get us to build demented models of reality.
this guy is awezome, ive had many psychologists trough my life but this guy is just so......wow, the way he explains things... i want to have a 5 hour conversation with this guy, i feel like i could learn so much and it would help me so much in my current state.
All jokes aside, Michael and any other person on Dr. K's stream are so so so brave to do this live in front of thousands. As a person that has gone through therapy multiple times since the age of 12, it takes a massive fucking schlong to actually speak about what's really bothering you and try to dig up the cause. The process gets super painful and is super time consuming, and you can tell Michael went deep. Thank you so much Michael and Dr. K for showing that issues like these are not uncommon and that it is okay to seek help!!
I completely agree. Opening up to a therapist for me at least is scary af as it is. Opening up to family and friends is even scarier because I don’t want to burden them with my thoughts and problems. Opening up to thousands of people on a livestream is just, ridiculous to me…
@@stoffni True, this is probably the talk that I relate to other than Lily's! I love the dynamic between them and I also love how this is just a purely analytical talk more than emotional
> 57:32 people who worry about not being able to take care of themselves are not those who can't take care of themselves but who believe others won't take care of them This makes sense. Being incapable of taking care of yourself is only a big deal if others won't do the job. If people will be there for me I don't have to sweat it.
17:01 Dr.K: "I'm not really telling you anything, I've just been repeating back what you've said to me" Michael: Oh I see, he's fooled me with _lies_ _and_ _deceit_
Dr. K from 1:10:15 to 1:11:33 *Tells michael his parents don't love him *Tells michael he's special needs Me: Oh man why did you have to kill my man like that dude.
In case anyone takes that part of the interview out of context. Dr.K obviously miss spoke and Michael didn't correct him because he knew. I could be wrong but Michael acknowledged it himself and obviously didn't take offense.
The face michael makes when he's asked to tap into the emotional mind. I feel you man its so hard. Even when you know its a fundamental part of how people think.
You noticed it because Michael reacted when Dr K said it; but when Michael said “carnal” when he meant “primal” Dr K didn’t react at all, so barely anyone seems to have noticed it. I personally find that a much funnier slip-up, but maybe that’s just cause I’m an English major?
Michael is so intelligent and so aware. Dr. K whipped out the books because Michael has the ability to ignite the passion in a person's craft. Michael is going to be a great teacher and I'm very excited to watch him succeed.
This is so relatable. I always feel like I cannot depend on other people because every time I did in the past, things never turned out well. So I try to be self reliant, it's nice, I feel empower most of the time. But sometimes, it can be deeply lonesome.
From recent Michael streams, he seems to be very happy when he identifies the problem about something, or why something doesn't work. Like a "So that's why!" reaction.
Jerry stone yeah that’s actually understandable and relatable, realizing something about yourself can be sad but also exciting, like recently I’ve found out things that could be wrong with me and it made me happy cuz I felt like I’m finally understanding myself
Michael is actually really smart. I know we've seen it in his videos, but it's nice seeing how he uses his intelligence to think about mental health issues.
Actually INCREDIBLY useful. Just interesting how much can I relate. Sometimes you think about the weirdest things. Remember being like 6-7 y.o. lying in bed and being afraid of dying when I'm old.
I remember sobbing to my dad at age 10 about the fear of death. Now I'm stuck in the fear that there is only one path: absolute abyssal of nothingness.
@@justinebpheartss I used to think that all the time and was super worried. I think the best way to combat it is too realize that the end goal to the universe isn't necessarily for anything good to happen, it's for good things to have had happened.
Every. single. interview. It gets more and more relatable for me. Every interview so far has helped me in some way and this one is equally if not more helpful than all the others for me. Thanks Dr K
This one felt freakishly in sync with my life. Yesterday I was viewing options for furthering my education. When Michael said after High school he was at a crossroads between psychology and computer science my ears perked up. I said almost that exact sentence yesterday because I'm between going to school for psychology/counseling or continuing graphic design. I dunno just so weird! Definitely a moment I'll remember for a long time.
Perhaps that is not just because the interviews are more directly related to your life ( though they might very well be ) But also because thanks to these interviews you have been building up a stronger bond to yourself, thus it seems like things are hitting home more even though it is you who is getting closer to the self, not the interviews.
@@manuelito1233 I think Fed needs proper professional help. Not that Dr. K isn't a professional, but HealthyGamer.gg has constantly reminded us that this platform/show is not in any way a replacement for professional help. Dr. K is off the clock here and as such, can't really provide the kind of extensive deep dive help that Fed needs
intelligence meets intelligence. I loved this talk. So much depth here. You can really see how much Michael understands what you two are discussing. This talk brought tons of insight. I can relate to this sort of anxiety, or existential dread, and I. think a of it comes from the 'imposter syndrome'. This one was amazing, thank you!
And now you're smarter cause you're having anxiety of being dumb but you cant be dumb cause you know yoh got smarter because of the anxiety. Knowing not knowing is knowing you don't know
On the single player vs Multi player: Maybe for some of us life is more like Dark Souls. You are in your own isolated world. You only really see the shadows of others and what they leave behind, but don't interact much beyond brief sayings. Though every so often you do need help and summon help from another, yet it is only temporary and then you never see the person again.
i related to a lot in this conversation that we dont normally get with the people dr k talks to. i would like to hear more from dr k though about the fear of looking or feeling stupid. i know logically that im an intelligent person, and i think that because i've been praised from a very young age by my mom and my teachers i hold this high standard for myself, and when im placed in a situation where i know nothing about it, i get major anxiety and fear that everyone else is going to think im stupid. Also when people do think im stupid and express that, i take a much greater offense to it than i should, it affects my ego that i try so hard to be self aware about, and i may lash out at them in some unfair way to try to embarrass them, and redeem myself, because i felt so challenged. I'm an empath and i care a lot about how people feel so I really wish I didnt do that sometimes. just a great topic i hope dr k covers more in depth some day
The reality is, 99.999% of all people are good at some things and garbage at others. History nuts feel retarded when they can't finish a definite integral equation quickly and Math nerds feel lost when doing APUSH exams. Feeling dumb when you're discussing a niche topic is something everyone has experienced whether they remember it or not. For me, the reaction to someone who expresses my inability to respond to a niche situation is partial indifference and also calm knowing there's nothing wrong with that. Either you hit them with facts, or hit them back by exposing their own vulnerabilities, in hopes of helping them understand that just because you're dumb at one thing doesn't make you dumb as a person. Either they understand the fallacy in what they just said or they have the mind of a 14 year old. You can feel good about the latter. With the ego reactions, you just have to live long enough to accept the reality that you're not gonna be good, or even "ok" at everything. At the same time, you're probably quite good/knowledgeable at other things, even if those skills can't be pinpointed at moment's thought.
I would have never known without this show that im going through the same thing Michael did in highschool. I have a lot of social anxiety and am always very nervous about my future as I have no plans.
Michael's face is so freaking adorable too XDD Like, you can see "What" all over his face before asking the question XDD But man, the fact that he was genuinely listening and followed through that without the diagram is awesome! But him still letting Dr. K explain again with the diagram is probably a sweet/polite gesture
Michael Reeves has a ton of energy, it’s so interesting to see someone have such a personal conversation in the same way I do. This is how I talk to my own therapist when I let my mouth move before I’m totally committed to the words I’m saying, so my therapist starts to hear things that I constantly back track on.
It was interesting talk. I like how they both started conversation cautiously and went to the deep conclusions. Michael is a very smart guy, it would be interesting to see him again in this “show”
Hey, just wanted to say, you've been a very big help with living in these corona times. Thank you for dedicating yourself to this community, and offering your valuable knowledge and insight to a plethora of cases. You are the first person that I've listened a podcast of in spotify, and I'm glad for everything you've done so far, and for everything that has yet to come!
I truly believe he developed this look in hopes to gain traction subconsciously, by not stating that he wants to look like potter but for people to compare him to potter, thus making his approach easier and more smooth
When they were talking about older you talking to the younger you, all i could think of was a song from NF called "Nate". In the song he is doing the same thing "talking to your younger self". Also heard it's a common exercise you do in therapy, but i am not sure
I enjoy this episode because it discusses important topics, without having either party in a state of suffering. It shows that psychology is not just a tool to help those suffering, but also something worthwhile for people in a better place.
man okai ive always liked michael, and i always felt like "wow, i feel really drawn to him lol" but watching this made me cry- yes for michael, but holy shit for myself. im going THROUGH this, and im feeling what he felt in the past. it's just making me cry in pain and realization and man idk i juss feel so much more lost and uncertain now with what to do with myself.
I’m a class of 2020 high school graduate, and I’m at a crossroads in life rn trying to decide if I want to study computer engineering or psychology, and I’m a video editor...I never thought about the theme between them, but it does make sense that I like to know how things work. Well said
Same for me years ago. Side note: I discovered that I don't do as well if I don't have something physical to show for my work. So I couldn't really get into therapy as at the end of the day I had no real gauge of progress/production. But if I build something then at the end of the day I could step back and say. "Here's this thing that didn't exist until now. I did that". I found that helped me select my path.
do both, there are certain fields that focus on human psychology and its interaction with technology, and having a background on both fields would be really beneficial.
Might be able to help you out on this one I was a student in psychology and did coding on the side, I found out this year that there's a career named "M. I. A. S. H. S" which combines the two and isn't really hard to get into. Hope this helps you out!
1:10:10 He understood what you were trying to say but you said "I don't think your parents love you". It takes a second but you can just tell he thought that mistake was funny.
man the ''growing up'' part hit me really hard, lsitening to this and thinking about the questions made me realise I feel alone and i think felt alone since i was a kid, i have a wide variety of interest in subjects and i dont talk about them with anyone because no one cares as much about those things. I think thats also the reason why wehn im interested in something be it a game, sport or subject i dont take it to the next lvl because the things i was excited about when i was younger never reached the next lvl because i didnt connect with my ''weird'' thoughts with anyone. Before this I've been thinking of seeing a therapist to work all of this out, but watching this has made me realise it most likely isnt the simple things i boiled the reasons why i feel certain things down to. In short thanks alot Dr. K and thanks alot michael, i hope someone helping me find the root causes of the symptoms i have repressed over all these years will help develop me and make me grow.
This is a really cool interview with Michael. It's nice to go along his journey to find the root of his dread and how it helped him. Seeing how some of the psychology concepts I learned in school actually showed up really made me feel like I was learning something useful. It is also nice to compare some of my experiences and see if that applies to me.
Notes/ quotes "You knew something that was deeply important to you, but people told you that you were fucking wrong. That's how you feel alone in the world" "when the people who are supposed to help you and understand the way you feel, tell you that you fucking wrong for feeling that way" "It's have to have faith in the future, when you don't know if you count on them (the people you spend your present and future with) " We are social creatures thus = 'there is a general dread and fear for your future, (your survival) if you cannot count on others" I feel and think like when I contemplate the future, it's absolutely a single player (with npc' s) , me and maybe a cat, is that a problem jade? Knowing or being more clear on what your samskar is helps you feel better because it gives you the ability to process it, to use you 'buddhi' and understand it so that maybe you have a chance of solving the problem and consoling yourself. Conversely if you distract yourself from the a painful emotional experience this will turn into a samskar, a unresolved emotional problem. That is a problem because samskars, weither you like it or not always come back to haught you. Thus it not until you confront your pain and accept your suffering, that you can be free from them. Okay, so what do I do about it? Well first things first is to try to notice it and analyse/process it with your buddhi (conscious mind), 'be a shepards for yourself', imagine the way felt and imagine a older (wiser) version of yourself consoling you and reassuring. Lastly, keep going until you get that lighting, I'm feeling better moments, and eventually with time you'll heal and feel better. Also therapy bro?! ((You're a kid with special needs? When you're cooped up in your room, teaching yourself how to program (for me languages, finances, general life skills), fuelled by worries that other kids that are sure that they're going to be fine for the rest of their lives don't have... Honestly here it gets a little bit complex so I'm going to allow myself to make room for all the other messages to sink in by being okay with letting this point go, love you bro :'))
This really hit home for me. I feel existential dread quite often, and I never could quite conceptualize it until I watched this. Thank you so much for your work and content, it's incredibly helpful and eye-opening.
that lesson on reactions and instincts to fear was so interesting - i remember i had no issues with seagulls until one attacked me and my boyfriend on holiday last year, and ever since ive always flinched every time a seagull moves quickly or abruptly lol. i can't help that instinctual reaction, but afterwards i feel a little bit stupid for flinching haha
Yesterday I was at a crossroad (with life) and decided to test it out. I did this conversation in my head, mostly to find out my deep rooted convictions and change them and after half an hour i was strained. My respect goes to Dr. K that does that on regular basis and Micheal that "lead" this conversation..it takes a lot of mental juice. Dr. K thanks so much for all you do. You care for the generation out here, work hard for people, to be helpful and spend your energies for others. One could think once you finally get to a point of overcoming your own batteles and shaping your mind you can rest, be proud and at ease and enjoy the view that comes with climbing the high mountain. But yours is a daily choice to keep stuggeling by taking upon (it's not really taking upon someone's problems but pouring your heart out into figuring out their problems & solutions) other people's struggles too. That's beautiful, man and I see it makes you happy. I wish you to be happy, you and your beautiful family.❤ Btw i think it's hard not to get carried away while finding a solution to people's situation. It needs a lot of self control, bunch of feelings to understand and lots of care but logic not to get lost or sentimental in these intense emotions. Big respect for you, man.
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oh cool, first reply
doc you're kinda 6 months late but oh well
Hey, that point at about 25mins where you were saying that the brain will attempt to fabricate a reason for an unknown reason to a conclusion.
I don't recall ever experiencing that, if you ask me why I got the cookies I would say, "I saw the cookies and wanted them. I didn't come here for the cookies, but like, why not?"
I may be misunderstanding the whole thing, but I feel like that isn't the conclusion phenomenon.
The beginning 1/4 of this starts touching on comparing both sides of Dunning-Kruger Syndrome.
Dr. K. sounds like he is or would be a fan of Jiddu Krishnamurti and his talks.
I accidentally paused when Dr. K was thinking and I just thought he was thinking for 5 minutes straight
This definitely happened to me before lmao
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Hahahaha
LMAOOO THE BRAIN JUICE HE WAS CONJURING IN THAT TIME THO
My video froze and I was painting so I didn't realize and kept looking up to his contemplating face thinking wow, he's really deep in thought. Hahaha
Enjoyed this, sucks that Michael Reeves didn't discuss his horrid pursuit for the extinction of turtles and his crack addiction, but that's fine.
@O Z _ But he does do crack is what you're saying
@@ICantBelieveAdiWasTaken are you saying you're not doing crack? get on the trend bruv
@@sirkkusalomaa4644 AHAHAHAHA
@O Z _ Why would you think that he has tried crack cocaine?
@O Z _ He doesnt want to murder turtles, he just wants to kill them with plastic straw suffication
Michael reeves! my favorite guy right there
Sora! my favourite guy right here
Whoa Sora watches dr.k?!
Sora watches otv on the side hehe
Sora is the next “Some guy with a moustache”
Sora?
Dr K: Is this a show on twitch?
Michael: is this a show on twitch?
Dr K: 👁️_👁️
Michael: 👁️_👁️
Hahahaha we found a loophole
Ok bill Clinton.
"Define "is" "
@@Battlefox64_RL yimestamp
@@opanimu6989 my dyslexic brain read that as: Y I’m a…TIMESTAMP!?
He’s asked that to people before when they call it a show, he enthusiastically asks, “are we a show?!” I laugh every time hehe
I absolutely lost it at "I'm sorry have we been using diagrams?" after 20 minutes of doing diagrams.
Quoted incident at 1:31:30
@@sirprize5191 you are a good person
@@sirprize5191 absolute chad behavior
@@kalyasaify i have no clue what you’re going on about, or why you’re going off over a 2y old comment lol
How to communicate with Micheal: be as blunt and straight forward as possible while sprinkling a couple of swears for spice
"Abso-fucking-lutely"
So fucking true
Yup
Swear words are just _p i z z a s e_
uhh, I just got to the first doctor f-bomb and had to see if there were comments. It feels so contrived and blatant when psychs do this. I have talked to several psychs through out the years and its always the young male ones that love to do this with certain types of clients (me and apparently michael reeves) and its soooo obvious they are doing it to try and connect with you. like they wouldn't have said it in a normal casual conversation outside of work but because I swear a lot they feel like they need to as well. I have no doubt this must be taught in every psych program ever. I don't dislike them for doing it, I've just only ever talked to one shrink who did it convincingly.
Dr K talks
Michael: *Pulls out 15 different drinks*
was searching for it. 😂
same energy as wilbur soot with his bananas during his rajjchelor
LMAO
lmao RIGHT?! i was just like hmm what will be next? You know
It’s a anxiety coping mechanism I do the same when I have meetings with people I make sure I have enough water to frequently sip on
"ft. Michael Reeves" At this point is more than just a meme.
big facts
*It's the best marketing strategy ever*
It's like putting Elon Musk in front of your business
Ez Af
*Boomer Lily vs Zoomer Coomer 420 Michael*
Micheal reeves is the Gunna of the UA-cam industry? Or is gunna the Micheal reeves of the music industry
@@ezaf5989 How many times are you going to write the same thing? You seem to be overly focused on his acne in several comments here already, are you trying to beat out your own insecurities by focusing on something you deem as a negative on someone else?
1:10:15
"... I don't think you don't love your parents. I don't think your parents love you."
LMAO that's an unfortunate misspeak. I like that Michael catches that and laughs as well in the background.
I was looking for someone else to notice and then 10 seconds later he says michael is "special needs" lmao
Yeah little miss speak but it seems like he got the point
followed by "i think youre a special needs kid"
I fucking died man
No joke dr seems like the guy who actually thinks that about people so he has a Freudian slip.
“I don’t think your parents love”
“You are a special needs kid”
Dr. K does it again CURED
What do you mean ?
@@racsofischer7601 OP is just poking fun at what Dr. K says just for fun. the way he phrases things to michael can sound hilarious out of context
He misspoke and said “i dont think your parents love you” he forgot to make it a double negative. And that broke the seriousness for a moment. And then he continues with the previpus topic of special needs. But because of that funny disruption it sounded very out of context making it also very funny 😂
@@bs0023 Yeah he meant "i dont think your parents dont love you". Thats what made Michael laugh that much.
Pog comment
The people saying this stream wasn’t as emotional as they liked or Micheal seems “too stable” for this seems ridiculous to me. People who have their “shit together” or have a higher sense of self awareness seek therapy all the time.
Jeff B who said he must open up with all his shit? It’s not consultation as dr said. Why people wait he will cry and tell about all insecurities he has especially if they related to people he loves? People wait for the show and don’t care how Michael will live with it after. It was interesting and deep conversation. For people who think it gave some answers. People who like drama and feeling stuff laughed in some places. Maybe this is enough?
@@SoGoodToBeReal I feel like people don't really know what happens in a real therapy session. And it's publicized and free, he can only do so much. People are just asking too much and they assume everything
@Jeff B or maybe hes not that ''emotional'' psychology is more complex than, he is, he is not
@Jeff B I'm not sure about Michael not having his shit together, we don't know him enough as a person to make a judgement on that. All I'm sure is that he isn't opening up at all.
In my experience, this is a lot like a normal therapy session. Not every session is a weepy revelation. The therapist is there to guide the patient through their thoughts and make sense of them. That’s largely what happened here. Also your first session isn’t going to be a big breakthrough. It takes time. On top of that, in a regular therapy session, everything you say is confidential (unless you talk about a situation where a child or elderly person could be harmed, stuff like that). That’s a big part of being able to “open up.” If other people want to do that on this show, that’s fine, but Michael is clearly learning stuff that could benefit him in his daily life. That’s what therapy is for. It’s very clear they’re working through messy emotions and making sense of them. This is my first time watching this channel and I really enjoyed it, as someone who is actually in therapy (and struggles with their own existential dread).
Dr.K: "I assume my family is behind me in the house, even though I don't know that"
Door opens... 25:50
Michael: "Oh I know that"
I cried from laughter, that timing was so good LOL xD
Michael is so funny
25:48 *
yea exactly!! iwas like WHAAAT
This has been really educational,
but you can't ignore the hilarious parts:
1:10:13 "I don't think your parents love you"
1:10:29 "I think you're a special needs kid"
1:31:40 "Sorry we've been using diagrams?"
1:44:34 "Am I gonna like twerk?" Dr. K: "What is that?"
💀💀
I died when he goes "what is that" and Michael was just like nevermind.
1.10.55. "I am not saying that you are dumber than others.."
“We’ve been using diagrams??....” *anxiety intensifies*
Michael: ok... oh he can’t fucking hear me... *self-judgement intensifies*
It's fascinating how Michael showed his anxiety by twitching the knob on his mic and then Dr. K told him that doing physical actions helps keep him in the present at the end. It was very insightful seeing how Michael subconsciously found a coping mechanism to bring him to the present and Dr. K provided insight into why this might be the best possible option for him to remain in that state.
Man if only you knew Micheal doesn't give a fuck and didn't retain shit from this lmao you can tell how bad he wanted to leave 😂
@@Final_RPG You make it sound like you know what he's feeling lol. Michael quite literally said he thinks psychology is interesting. Showing signs of anxiety in a conversation with a person you don't know well isn't the same as 'not giving a fuck' or 'wanting to leave'
@@veravye You can still think it's interesting but not want to be be there lol what's your point
@@Final_RPG Bruh I think Micheal willingly came to the interview, do you seriously think basing off of his character that he plays in his channel would prove Micheal didn't care?
1:00:15
Dr K: explains deep seated trauma*
Michael Reeves: whispers* "that's sick"
Dr K: ...
Michael Reeves: "that's badass"
Dr K: visible confusion*
Felt good being the 420'th like, also yeah Michael has an immense passion for learning it's actually amazing
@@oranellis or he’s just wittingly dodging the feeling of vulnerability.
I died at that part, the visible horror on Dr.K's face LMAO
@@creatineaddict por que no los dos
I can relate with Michael so much though, it’s such an interesting concept to consider
Michael: "My dad is pretty weird"
Like father like son.
You got likes thought I’d tell you
@@Nayhan123 you also got likes... Not a lot but still👍
Marvin animates so did u PogU
@@pb9405 Oh how the turns have tabled.
Time stamp?
Michael comes across as a really smart fellow. I mean the way he asks questions and leans into what's going on. "Do you go inside a lot to deal with the dissonance?"; "Do you see multiple paths?"; "You're gonna lead me somewhere?". I don't know how else to explain this but I really like it.
This is the importance of mathematics! Michael is very good at spotting derivative functions. Except he's doing it within the confounds of discrete math. Basically, it's the cornerstone of provable logic. Think about it like this, Michael is very good at spotting the equation that produces the words Dr. K said to him. Michael is very good at spotting algorithms. That's why he's very good at computer science. When he creates code, he can't just speak what he wants the computer to do. he has to think about what he wants, break down the result in a definable metric, then communicate a function to a computer that will produce the exact results he wants.
It's called mindfulness. Some acquire it later than others, while some are forced to acquire it earlier due to the nature of their upbringing. Some acquire it through drug usage, while some acquire it through meditation. Some acquire it through intense struggle and perseverance, while some acquire it through unfortunate circumstances that they find themselves trapped in. Some may acquire it with a combination of all the things I listed while some may acquire it with none of the things I listed. And then some may live their entire life on autopilot and never acquire it.
The point is that, everyone's experience is different, which entails that everyone's path is different. This awakening of mindfulness is understanding how your actions and intentions (and others') affect yourself and others on an objective and fundamental level. Some call this "being woke", some call this "being enlightened", some call this "being objective", some call this "being aware", and some may even call this "being intelligent". The beautiful thing is you can digest this truth however you want to digest it. Whether that be spiritually, religiously, scientifically, etc. It doesn't actually matter, the result is the same.
A mindful person may have already come to the conclusion that "being enlightened" isn't actually as good as it sounds. He might say, "Now I think I know how to understand everything, but at what cost? This newfound "enlightenment" just causes me to suffer." Yes imaginary man, you are half right, but you are also half wrong. It is a double-edged sword. You are essentially eating the apple from the Tree of Knowledge by discovering this awareness. One might think, "before this realization I didn't have to fix anything about myself, I didn't have to ponder whether or not I am surrounded by good or bad people, I didn't have to have hold myself accountable outside of social or political judgment. Life was easier." And while these thoughts may be true, they are only one side of the coin. The other side is, "before this realization, was I truly alive? Was I actually in control? Was I my most authentic self? Did I have autonomy? Was I living my own life, for myself?"
Regardless of the path you were pushed to take or the journey you are currently on, you are here now. Sure, life is a lot harder now with this newfound wisdom, but you are the driver now. So you gotta learn to roll with the punches baby.
Thank you for coming to my Ted Talk.
I was immediately compelled to respond to the OP here, but I laughed when I saw the comments, as I am also a person who likes to delve into things and make long hypotheses, sometimes with unsolicited advice sprinkled in - for better or worse. And as of yet, it seems apparent that these are the only types of people who feel to compelled to respond to this particular comment. Now that I can claim the shortest comment so far, I feel proud to have successfully resisted the urge to go too far on a tangent 😅 I think you guys needed it more than me. Take care guys. I hope it got you what you needed.
@@someguy1994 I believe your understanding is in many ways correct and that the way you described Micheal has lots of merit, but it doesn't encapsulate enough of it. if we imagine Micheal as an pillar your reasoning might steel cable keeping it too not swing to far ( 28:03). In truth you haven't still gotten to the foundations of that pillar.
@@skulltrick does acid once.
Despite not being as emotional as some people maybe expected, I think I learned more from this session than I have during many others. Was nice seeing a sorta scientific conversation.~
Despite the boomer and zoomer dynamic.
agree
I don't know, i got the feeling all throughout that Michael was incredibly closed off, in a "i'm going to give you the bare minimum of information about me so that this doesn't get too awkward"- kinda way. Also, by his demeanor it felt like he didn't really have much faith in therapy in general, and that he wasn't taking this talk seriously. Maybe someone pressured him into this? Another impression i got watching, is that he was overly focused on what people viewing the interview might think about it and how cringy or not the things said might look to them, which generated some reactions on his part that i think could be seen as disrespectful : lots of deflecting, laughing at the "gifted kids are special needs kids" remark, or interrupting to ask questions ->which felt more like him trying to gain some control of the conversation as opposed to just being in the vulnerable position of asking for help. It felt like he was trying very hard to seem completely unbothered, as if this was just a casual chat. I'd guess there's more there than just anxiety and poor self-esteem, he also seems very uncomfortable with expressing his feelings. Maybe i'm reading all the wrong things into this, but i think he approached this with the wrong mindset. He could've gotten A LOT more out of this talk with Dr. K.
@@razvansocol1966 He was definitely closed off, but it also does seem to be because of the reasons Dr K talked about; that fear of coming across as stupid, not being used to relying on anyone else. Outside of being around Lily, this is the first time he's been spotlighted with the expectation of being open about himself so he's probably bound to have felt uncomfortable. Maybe a private session would help him more, or a second session now that he's more familiar with it.
He not even a boomer what?
@@razvansocol1966 idk, I don’t think he was pressured into this. On the podcast he said he was opened to talking to dr K because he find it’ll be interesting. I also don’t think anyone would pressure anyone to do this or else all of them would be doing it but for etc feels uncomfortable talking to a live audience and every time he mentions it the other OTV people respect him on that. I feel like he’s just a closed off person in general and maybe just feels uncomfortable opening up. He is also pretty closed off in general talks and podcasts. I think he is probably very anxious about this, along with his low self esteem but he’s just a guy who seems confident (like he said) even when he may be not. Then again I’m also making assumptions
43:00 That right there is probably the most beautiful thing i've ever seen in a conversation. Taking your time to actually give a really good and fitting answer, and thus showing so much care, is just heartwarming. Such a little but impactful thing to do
Some people think others are fake when they take time to actually think about how they want to respond. They believe that they’re searching for what the person wants to hear as opposed to answering from the heart. I think that’s unfair and id much rather have a person answer thoughtfully than just say the first thing that comes to mind.
Strange hearing this, I'm OBSESSED with learning, and the reason behind that for me is because of my Anxiety. Learning more allowed me to rule out more worries, by understanding physics, science, etc.
I like the contrast of “existential dread” as a title and the smiling happy faces in the thumbnail
LOL you’re right
sarcasm is a major method with which people deal with it
nailing the zoomer humor
reminds me of Facebook when someone smiling bright on their profile picture commented something horrendous 😂
The depressed looking Michael behind them is trying to warn them 😂
In that house, Michael -ironically- is the most stable of all lol
Ez Af
*If acne makes a person not stable then idk what a person with a battle scar is then*
I'd say scarra and toast seem very stable too
@@ezaf5989 acne scars has nothing to do with being mentally stable or not jackass
@@omnoid toast i wouldn't have said so but recently he's getting really good, i've observed.
@@omnoid I doubt they do to the degree where Michael is just because of personality traits and "brain wiring" to call it somehow.
When he was telling Michael to go back and imagine a 22-year-old version of himself being there for himself, I immediately started crying as I imagined being there for little me. I think I might have some stuff to work through lol
ua-cam.com/video/3hWMaqJnJO4/v-deo.html
Check out this video :) makes me cry everytime, it's about this thought too.
@@violetnhz I cried.
timestamp?
hi James, glad you can cry about it. Men should. Yes we all do have stuff and need to work through it. find good people to talk to. but, not everyone. I got into a trap of talking to everyone but really only a few have the capacity to relate.
I know this is unrelated but I love how your name is just James. No last name or anything. Just James lmao.
The fact that they went through the parts of the mind and Michael didn't know about the diagram is very impressive
21:40 I love this part when Michael turns it into a therapy session for Dr. K instead
28:08 "I have observed that the smarter you are, the worse your anxiety is"
holy crap, I must be a genius!
But I’m a fucking idiot
@@drownedcactus5618 I don’t think you are. I think that you just believe that because you’ve been told that.
@@winterquinnhawkings dman ok doctor k... youre right tho
Perhaps you are intelligent
The problem is that smart people are too anxious and awkward to go out in front of the less_smart ones and emit their superior brain power
A lot of smart people are even afraid to go outside
They don't see the point in going out
Some don't do anything with their lives because they live in fear
Child genius, grew up into an idiot
25:47 When Dr. K is talking about his family being in the house and someone opens a door to which Michael replies "Oh I know that"
Top tier comedy, I hope I'm not the only one who noticed that
Funny as hell
like what are the chances!
I missed it completely, thanks for the comment!
Paused to scroll down to find somebody commenting about it xD
This whole conversation was like my math teacher leading me to solve a hard problem
Even the mandatory 'We were taking notes?' included
1:39:35 was also a funny one. "Questions for me?" "Nooo, not reeally" "Ok well one question you might have is 'what do I do about it...". Michael had 95% of his attention focused on not sharing anything emotional through much of this, and it says a lot about Dr. K that he still navigated to give ideas for Michael to think about later regarding existential dread and low self confidence possibly being related to feelings that he can only rely on himself, which in turn might be deeply imbedded because they are tied to very old experiences Michael has yet to process analytically. Interesting stuff, and neat to see a professional help someone who is not all that open to being helped yet. He's only 22, no judgement here.
This comment made me chuckle. Thanks for that
Michael is like suddenly the most relatable person in the world to me
I was just introduced to him for the first time through Disguised Toast and the video of them together made me laugh so fucking hard. I used to watch Dr. K but something about him threw me off and NOW I FUCKING GET IT!!!! HE'S GOT THE SAME BAD QUALITIES AS J.P.!!! I thought he was an expert but he's really not, and watching Michael laugh when Dr. K called him special needs was hilarious. It's so ironic and judgemental. As if Dr. K has any right to determine what is normative human behavior.
@@stone_pilot do you mean like jordan peterson? Because if so I highly disagree
WHO even is J P? That's not really relevant though, slips of the tongue happen and awkward phrasing will always be awkward
Dr. K is a legitimate doctor qualified to work in a hospital and as a psychiatrist
1:10:15
K: "I don't think your parents love you"
Michael: *thinks*
*laughs*
I think it was a missing word. I think they meant to say "I don't think your parents don't love you"
@@Michael-dj6pd that's exactly what he meant, which is why it's so funny haha
I feel like Michael impressed Dr. K with how in-tune to his emotions he was
He doesn't really talk much about his emotions though..
But yeah, I see your point, Dr. K is indeed impressed with Michael with how he thinks rather than he feels and how self-aware he is of himself.
@@ronaleelopiga2927 He does talk about his emotions, just not through the lens of emotions. I relate with Michael on this point; I usually try to process things logically. Understanding yourself rationally is comforting.
@@joeblow9275 Dude! It's gratifying to read someone else say this. I've always hated how people demonize rationality and intelligence like it's a straight rail-way to Anxiety and Depression. No. I've found that the ability to be open-minded and self-skeptical while reasoning through one's own issues can be therapeutic. But speaking with others who are also open-minded and intelligent can help us realize the truth more creatively- but ESPECIALLY living new experiences.
Basically, it's being intelligent with TOO LITTLE DATA that can get us to build demented models of reality.
These are so interesting to listen to, especially this one lol
Hmmm...
Sure
I know right. Which are you a fan of? Michael or Dr. K?
ACrazy Cooki I’m a fan of your mom
@@tofunari3359 Probably because she makes the best jokes, huh. 😂😂 (Pun intended)
Michael is so stupid smart its crazy. I could listen to him talk seriously about anything for a long time lol
Just radiates with that energy you would like to see in a tutor or teacher.
Dr K does such a good job of talking to people in their own language.
this guy is awezome, ive had many psychologists trough my life but this guy is just so......wow, the way he explains things... i want to have a 5 hour conversation with this guy, i feel like i could learn so much and it would help me so much in my current state.
All jokes aside, Michael and any other person on Dr. K's stream are so so so brave to do this live in front of thousands. As a person that has gone through therapy multiple times since the age of 12, it takes a massive fucking schlong to actually speak about what's really bothering you and try to dig up the cause. The process gets super painful and is super time consuming, and you can tell Michael went deep. Thank you so much Michael and Dr. K for showing that issues like these are not uncommon and that it is okay to seek help!!
I completely agree. Opening up to a therapist for me at least is scary af as it is. Opening up to family and friends is even scarier because I don’t want to burden them with my thoughts and problems. Opening up to thousands of people on a livestream is just, ridiculous to me…
i would’ve flipped the script, given this dr. k guy some clearly needed therapy
by far the most enjoyable episode to watch for me. the way michael asked questions to dr. K about neuroscience was really interesting to listen to.
It felt like a conversation rather than more of a monolog that the others can end up as.
@@stoffni True, this is probably the talk that I relate to other than Lily's! I love the dynamic between them and I also love how this is just a purely analytical talk more than emotional
This mans got a water bottle, a solo cup, and a monster can that he just cycles lol
Crack does that to you smh
It really do be like that
Relatable
I feel like that just leads to all the drinks getting to room-temp and going flat before you're halfway through any of them.
Christian Svendsen how tf does water go flat
> 57:32 people who worry about not being able to take care of themselves are not those who can't take care of themselves but who believe others won't take care of them
This makes sense. Being incapable of taking care of yourself is only a big deal if others won't do the job. If people will be there for me I don't have to sweat it.
17:01
Dr.K: "I'm not really telling you anything, I've just been repeating back what you've said to me"
Michael: Oh I see, he's fooled me with _lies_ _and_ _deceit_
lies and deceit to get more test subjects
Dr. K from 1:10:15 to 1:11:33
*Tells michael his parents don't love him
*Tells michael he's special needs
Me: Oh man why did you have to kill my man like that dude.
Look how they massacred my boy
having special needs isn't necessarily a bad thing
@@shantaeforsmash8287 i think the joke was about Dr k dropping a lot at once not so much about both of those things being bad lol
was he serious about that or did he misspeak? im not at that part yet
In case anyone takes that part of the interview out of context. Dr.K obviously miss spoke and Michael didn't correct him because he knew. I could be wrong but Michael acknowledged it himself and obviously didn't take offense.
The face michael makes when he's asked to tap into the emotional mind. I feel you man its so hard. Even when you know its a fundamental part of how people think.
1:10:07 I don't think your parents love you hahaha. Accident but still funny.
im dying frm laughter
definitely will be clipped and taken out of context lmao
@@jpaspaspas It already has been.
1:10:15 I like how Michael picks up on that xD. Its like "wait wat? xDDDD"
You noticed it because Michael reacted when Dr K said it; but when Michael said “carnal” when he meant “primal” Dr K didn’t react at all, so barely anyone seems to have noticed it.
I personally find that a much funnier slip-up, but maybe that’s just cause I’m an English major?
Michael is so intelligent and so aware. Dr. K whipped out the books because Michael has the ability to ignite the passion in a person's craft. Michael is going to be a great teacher and I'm very excited to watch him succeed.
This is so relatable. I always feel like I cannot depend on other people because every time I did in the past, things never turned out well. So I try to be self reliant, it's nice, I feel empower most of the time. But sometimes, it can be deeply lonesome.
dr.k expecting him to have a moment of realization of the problems within himself
micheal: thats badass!
LOL
@@oSawmurai Here you go: 1:00:07
Then Dr K asks him why he said badass at 1:00:56
I used to do this during therapy a lot. I'd fight to keep the smile off my face because it was usually paired with a sad realization.
From recent Michael streams, he seems to be very happy when he identifies the problem about something, or why something doesn't work.
Like a "So that's why!" reaction.
Jerry stone yeah that’s actually understandable and relatable, realizing something about yourself can be sad but also exciting, like recently I’ve found out things that could be wrong with me and it made me happy cuz I felt like I’m finally understanding myself
@@48DeathNinja That reaction sounds familiar. There's another person who does that, too
..No wonder he got along with Lily very well! XD
Michael is actually really smart. I know we've seen it in his videos, but it's nice seeing how he uses his intelligence to think about mental health issues.
A psychiatrist and a computer scientist psychoanalyze each other.
A human scientist and a computer scientist
@@devagr Subtract scientist from both sides and we're left with a "A human and a computer"
@ziger subtract and from that and we are left with "a a"
Subtract a from that and we're left with
@@adronius147 Subtract
1:31:52 damn I'm impressed that segment actually took 20 minutes. Michael has a great sense of time or he just perfectly guessed that.
"Sorry, have we been using diagrams?" That look on Dr.K's face always gets me.
I dare to say it reminds me of the tucker Carlson bewildered look
Actually INCREDIBLY useful. Just interesting how much can I relate. Sometimes you think about the weirdest things. Remember being like 6-7 y.o. lying in bed and being afraid of dying when I'm old.
Why do that at 6-7 when you can just do it now?
I remember sobbing to my dad at age 10 about the fear of death.
Now I'm stuck in the fear that there is only one path: absolute abyssal of nothingness.
@@justinebpheartss I used to think that all the time and was super worried. I think the best way to combat it is too realize that the end goal to the universe isn't necessarily for anything good to happen, it's for good things to have had happened.
@@justinebpheartss I remember being afraid of everending nothingless but now I adore it and see it as a relief
same, ive never thought that anxiety had so many levels, and actually the thing that "smarter you are, more anxiety" makes a lot of sense.
Every. single. interview. It gets more and more relatable for me.
Every interview so far has helped me in some way and this one is equally if not more helpful than all the others for me.
Thanks Dr K
This one felt freakishly in sync with my life. Yesterday I was viewing options for furthering my education. When Michael said after High school he was at a crossroads between psychology and computer science my ears perked up. I said almost that exact sentence yesterday because I'm between going to school for psychology/counseling or continuing graphic design. I dunno just so weird! Definitely a moment I'll remember for a long time.
Perhaps that is not just because the interviews are more directly related to your life ( though they might very well be ) But also because thanks to these interviews you have been building up a stronger bond to yourself, thus it seems like things are hitting home more even though it is you who is getting closer to the self, not the interviews.
so we've got Poki, Lily, Yvonne, and now Michael. All we need now is Scarra and Toast and we'd have a full house :))))
ya'll think Fed would have needed this? Or might he have been a bit more... Self aware of his behaviors to be able navigate this?
@@manuelito1233 I think Fed needs proper professional help. Not that Dr. K isn't a professional, but HealthyGamer.gg has constantly reminded us that this platform/show is not in any way a replacement for professional help. Dr. K is off the clock here and as such, can't really provide the kind of extensive deep dive help that Fed needs
manuelito1233
*Fed needs some SERIOUS help*
@@manuelito1233 no that jester needs buddha and exorcism
Everywhere you look
Dr.K: *gives some insight into the way Michael thinks*
Michael: "Sick. That's so fucking badass"
"If I get paralyzed by the lack of knowledge I won't act"
lol my life
24:20 "you won't think you're wrong, you'll just go a different way" introspection is a learned behavior, demonstrated on the fly
3:33
Dr k: hey Michael, let’s talk emotions
Michael: uno reverse
" 0:00 Intro
3:30 Applied Neuroscience"
*visible confusion*
that's a fast learning course
Hi Alex
@@coolestkidontheblock111 hi Lomfort.
@@xatoor how are you, Alex?
@@coolestkidontheblock111 im doing fine Lomfort
Michael everytime dr. K talks about
something about what he feels about things: uno reverse card
intelligence meets intelligence. I loved this talk. So much depth here. You can really see how much Michael understands what you two are discussing. This talk brought tons of insight. I can relate to this sort of anxiety, or existential dread, and I. think a of it comes from the 'imposter syndrome'. This one was amazing, thank you!
“I find the smarter you are, the higher your anxiety “. Me , feeling little to no anxiety:” holy shit I’m dumb”
And now you're smarter cause you're having anxiety of being dumb but you cant be dumb cause you know yoh got smarter because of the anxiety. Knowing not knowing is knowing you don't know
*Elon Musk : Thinks so fast that he can't even talk properly sometimes*
@@matthewgarcia7376 as a person that learned english as a third language, that last sentence broke my brain.
@@bintang9661 lmaoooo
@@bintang9661 hahaha
Although it's not really a counseling session, it's refreshing for someone going into neuroscience to see two people dialoguing like real scientists.
On the single player vs Multi player: Maybe for some of us life is more like Dark Souls. You are in your own isolated world. You only really see the shadows of others and what they leave behind, but don't interact much beyond brief sayings. Though every so often you do need help and summon help from another, yet it is only temporary and then you never see the person again.
Man this hit me in da resonator pipe
Doesnt sound healthy to think of life as being eternally shut out of human connection.
yeah... i used to think thats fine but now i see thats not healthy at all for your mind
i had the exact same thoughts, i was thinking about ds too, not this deep tho
but really interesting.
Underrated comment
Michael laughing at the "I think you have special needs" shows he is internet cultured
What a surprise
The comedy comes from "holy shit I'm just getting lower." Like imagine going to a harvard therapist and suddenly you're a special needs.
I have never heard of Michael. But he is my type of person. Everything he says is hilarious on some level and he’s not even trying
i related to a lot in this conversation that we dont normally get with the people dr k talks to. i would like to hear more from dr k though about the fear of looking or feeling stupid. i know logically that im an intelligent person, and i think that because i've been praised from a very young age by my mom and my teachers i hold this high standard for myself, and when im placed in a situation where i know nothing about it, i get major anxiety and fear that everyone else is going to think im stupid. Also when people do think im stupid and express that, i take a much greater offense to it than i should, it affects my ego that i try so hard to be self aware about, and i may lash out at them in some unfair way to try to embarrass them, and redeem myself, because i felt so challenged. I'm an empath and i care a lot about how people feel so I really wish I didnt do that sometimes. just a great topic i hope dr k covers more in depth some day
The reality is, 99.999% of all people are good at some things and garbage at others. History nuts feel retarded when they can't finish a definite integral equation quickly and Math nerds feel lost when doing APUSH exams. Feeling dumb when you're discussing a niche topic is something everyone has experienced whether they remember it or not. For me, the reaction to someone who expresses my inability to respond to a niche situation is partial indifference and also calm knowing there's nothing wrong with that. Either you hit them with facts, or hit them back by exposing their own vulnerabilities, in hopes of helping them understand that just because you're dumb at one thing doesn't make you dumb as a person. Either they understand the fallacy in what they just said or they have the mind of a 14 year old. You can feel good about the latter.
With the ego reactions, you just have to live long enough to accept the reality that you're not gonna be good, or even "ok" at everything. At the same time, you're probably quite good/knowledgeable at other things, even if those skills can't be pinpointed at moment's thought.
how would you like to be comforted if those things ever happen?
@@stevenmao6766 Dam this reply is so deep. I guess I should've expected that when reading the replies to a deep comment.
@@Housecat333 ah, i see is there somehting that we could do maybe? to make you feel better. maybe give you sometime and do soemthing after that?
Really glad hes done one with Michael, love the nerdy talk about Neuroscience and stuff!
"Michael you're good with words" 20 sec later "hmm dog bad" XD
Time stamp?
Timestamp is somewhere close to 1:20:00 for future
Also Michael: _Caveman Noises_
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R O C K
I think ot is just bias towards Reeves as K sees alot of himself in Reeves.
I would have never known without this show that im going through the same thing Michael did in highschool. I have a lot of social anxiety and am always very nervous about my future as I have no plans.
"Twerk" "What is that?" "nevermind"
I dont think Michael was up for demonstrating haha ^^
1:31:40 best moment
That was so good, I love Dr. K
Michael's face is so freaking adorable too XDD Like, you can see "What" all over his face before asking the question XDD
But man, the fact that he was genuinely listening and followed through that without the diagram is awesome! But him still letting Dr. K explain again with the diagram is probably a sweet/polite gesture
I thought there would be more comments about this.
Michael's face when he said it XD. I related lmao
Michael Reeves has a ton of energy, it’s so interesting to see someone have such a personal conversation in the same way I do. This is how I talk to my own therapist when I let my mouth move before I’m totally committed to the words I’m saying, so my therapist starts to hear things that I constantly back track on.
It was interesting talk. I like how they both started conversation cautiously and went to the deep conclusions. Michael is a very smart guy, it would be interesting to see him again in this “show”
Michael Reeves can be in a room full of the worlds smartest genuises and still have the guts to say "Fire, Run, Hot Bad." and still be understood.
Hey, just wanted to say, you've been a very big help with living in these corona times. Thank you for dedicating yourself to this community, and offering your valuable knowledge and insight to a plethora of cases. You are the first person that I've listened a podcast of in spotify, and I'm glad for everything you've done so far, and for everything that has yet to come!
Harry Potter has definitely fit back into the muggle world
I truly believe he developed this look in hopes to gain traction subconsciously, by not stating that he wants to look like potter but for people to compare him to potter, thus making his approach easier and more smooth
*3 foot Elon Musk Harry Potter that tases people while making robots*
"fit"
harry potter has singlehandedly ruined round glasses for males
@@commenter30 lol
When they were talking about older you talking to the younger you, all i could think of was a song from NF called "Nate". In the song he is doing the same thing "talking to your younger self".
Also heard it's a common exercise you do in therapy, but i am not sure
I enjoy this episode because it discusses important topics, without having either party in a state of suffering. It shows that psychology is not just a tool to help those suffering, but also something worthwhile for people in a better place.
Man I identified so much with this conversation and the feelings expressed, I almost cried twice
man okai ive always liked michael, and i always felt like "wow, i feel really drawn to him lol" but watching this made me cry- yes for michael, but holy shit for myself. im going THROUGH this, and im feeling what he felt in the past. it's just making me cry in pain and realization and man idk i juss feel so much more lost and uncertain now with what to do with myself.
I’m a class of 2020 high school graduate, and I’m at a crossroads in life rn trying to decide if I want to study computer engineering or psychology, and I’m a video editor...I never thought about the theme between them, but it does make sense that I like to know how things work. Well said
Same for me years ago. Side note: I discovered that I don't do as well if I don't have something physical to show for my work. So I couldn't really get into therapy as at the end of the day I had no real gauge of progress/production. But if I build something then at the end of the day I could step back and say. "Here's this thing that didn't exist until now. I did that". I found that helped me select my path.
do both, there are certain fields that focus on human psychology and its interaction with technology, and having a background on both fields would be really beneficial.
shane wow that’s so interesting, I’m the exact same way. Having something physical to show for my work drives me
Might be able to help you out on this one I was a student in psychology and did coding on the side, I found out this year that there's a career named "M. I. A. S. H. S" which combines the two and isn't really hard to get into. Hope this helps you out!
You can study both if you double major. I picked two seemingly disparate things, math and Spanish, when I did undergrad. I'm glad I did.
1:10:10
He understood what you were trying to say but you said "I don't think your parents love you". It takes a second but you can just tell he thought that mistake was funny.
man the ''growing up'' part hit me really hard, lsitening to this and thinking about the questions made me realise I feel alone and i think felt alone since i was a kid, i have a wide variety of interest in subjects and i dont talk about them with anyone because no one cares as much about those things. I think thats also the reason why wehn im interested in something be it a game, sport or subject i dont take it to the next lvl because the things i was excited about when i was younger never reached the next lvl because i didnt connect with my ''weird'' thoughts with anyone.
Before this I've been thinking of seeing a therapist to work all of this out, but watching this has made me realise it most likely isnt the simple things i boiled the reasons why i feel certain things down to.
In short thanks alot Dr. K and thanks alot michael, i hope someone helping me find the root causes of the symptoms i have repressed over all these years will help develop me and make me grow.
By far, i think this is my favorite Dr. K interview. It has michael reeves, overthinking, and yoga
1:10:13
"I don't think you don't love your parents, and I don't think your parents love you"
ouch that slipup hurts lmao
This is a really cool interview with Michael. It's nice to go along his journey to find the root of his dread and how it helped him. Seeing how some of the psychology concepts I learned in school actually showed up really made me feel like I was learning something useful. It is also nice to compare some of my experiences and see if that applies to me.
25:46 Michael's response was so good lmao
He was looking at the door, but how was he so quick witted!?
Two years later and I still find that part hilarious
@@BusWhipper I also came back here to watch this again after 2 years lol
Notes/ quotes
"You knew something that was deeply important to you, but people told you that you were fucking wrong. That's how you feel alone in the world"
"when the people who are supposed to help you and understand the way you feel, tell you that you fucking wrong for feeling that way"
"It's have to have faith in the future, when you don't know if you count on them (the people you spend your present and future with) "
We are social creatures thus = 'there is a general dread and fear for your future, (your survival) if you cannot count on others"
I feel and think like when I contemplate the future, it's absolutely a single player (with npc' s) , me and maybe a cat, is that a problem jade?
Knowing or being more clear on what your samskar is helps you feel better because it gives you the ability to process it, to use you 'buddhi' and understand it so that maybe you have a chance of solving the problem and consoling yourself. Conversely if you distract yourself from the a painful emotional experience this will turn into a samskar, a unresolved emotional problem. That is a problem because samskars, weither you like it or not always come back to haught you. Thus it not until you confront your pain and accept your suffering, that you can be free from them.
Okay, so what do I do about it? Well first things first is to try to notice it and analyse/process it with your buddhi (conscious mind), 'be a shepards for yourself', imagine the way felt and imagine a older (wiser) version of yourself consoling you and reassuring. Lastly, keep going until you get that lighting, I'm feeling better moments, and eventually with time you'll heal and feel better. Also therapy bro?!
((You're a kid with special needs? When you're cooped up in your room, teaching yourself how to program (for me languages, finances, general life skills), fuelled by worries that other kids that are sure that they're going to be fine for the rest of their lives don't have... Honestly here it gets a little bit complex so I'm going to allow myself to make room for all the other messages to sink in by being okay with letting this point go, love you bro :'))
Thx
I’ve never watched Dr. K before this. I am a longtime fan of Michael Reeves. And damn this was an amazing video
This really hit home for me. I feel existential dread quite often, and I never could quite conceptualize it until I watched this. Thank you so much for your work and content, it's incredibly helpful and eye-opening.
this has got to be my favourite dr k stream (so far) i love how he breaks down some of the theory for certain things its super interesting!
I don't know what you guys mean by unemotional. This session was emotional af especially at around midway of the video onward.
"We were using diagrams?" Had me dying of laughter.
that lesson on reactions and instincts to fear was so interesting - i remember i had no issues with seagulls until one attacked me and my boyfriend on holiday last year, and ever since ive always flinched every time a seagull moves quickly or abruptly lol. i can't help that instinctual reaction, but afterwards i feel a little bit stupid for flinching haha
Yesterday I was at a crossroad (with life) and decided to test it out. I did this conversation in my head, mostly to find out my deep rooted convictions and change them and after half an hour i was strained. My respect goes to Dr. K that does that on regular basis and Micheal that "lead" this conversation..it takes a lot of mental juice.
Dr. K thanks so much for all you do. You care for the generation out here, work hard for people, to be helpful and spend your energies for others. One could think once you finally get to a point of overcoming your own batteles and shaping your mind you can rest, be proud and at ease and enjoy the view that comes with climbing the high mountain. But yours is a daily choice to keep stuggeling by taking upon (it's not really taking upon someone's problems but pouring your heart out into figuring out their problems & solutions) other people's struggles too. That's beautiful, man and I see it makes you happy. I wish you to be happy, you and your beautiful family.❤
Btw i think it's hard not to get carried away while finding a solution to people's situation. It needs a lot of self control, bunch of feelings to understand and lots of care but logic not to get lost or sentimental in these intense emotions. Big respect for you, man.
Michael asks all the questions I'm curious about, you should have him on again
This should have more likes
Michael drinking timestamps
Red cup 4:49 7:50 9:40 27:40 43:00 44:33
Monster 43:12
i am at 1:10:00 and dont have time to care thanks
I shall praise you for making these time stamps
thank god for this knowledge
thank you for your service
Nice
how does he not need to pee •_•
Was so excited to be able to catch this particular episode live! Love Michael and really enjoy the way he thinks and articulates his thoughts
This is the best channel I’ve ever watched. Genuinely opened my eyes to many things I’ve been dreading for the last few years.