Unus annus wouldn't have been this successful without Ethan point blank period. His unique comedic timing and personality made it the thing it was. I loved all of it and it changed my view about creating things. Nobody could have pulled off unus annus this way. Love goes out to you Ethan!
As Mark said, he could t see himself doing this with anyone eles. Mark sees so much potential in Ethan and wants him to achieve it, and go _even further beyond_. Ethan deserves so much credit just as much as Mark, you can't have Annus without Unus. ♡
true, i feel like both of them where essential to make unus anus what it was. I personally don’t watch ethan or mark but I loved unnus anus. Each of them put their grain of sand and made a project that was bigger than both of them
I’ve always liked mark but never really watched his vids but unus annus was perfection because of the two of them. Ethan quickly became one of my favorite youtubers he’s just so adorable
That hit home so hard. "It's almost protective to stop caring" Not almost, IT IS! *"I'm not stupid, I just don't care." "Yeah, I'm getting bad grades, so what?"* It's masking insecurities with apathy. I know. I live it every day.
I've learned to lower my expectations for myself, but other people I know never have and it stresses me out like I've failed 17 assignments this month come on Susan give up on me already I swear to gOD--
right? I just call myself lazy or say I don’t fuck with school like you guys do. but I try, really really hard. and it’s exhausting to get told I’m lazy either way, so I just gave up 😭
This one hurt. I've had undiagnosed inattentive type ADHD up until a year ago and my whole upbringing has been "Why can't you do this, everybody else can" - "Why can't you just be normal" - "You're not stupid, you just have to try harder and stop being lazy" and my parents had the best intentions (they thought tough love was the way to go) but their words have scarred me for life. I feel stupid, genuinely stupid, at least once a week. I try to rationalize that I'm not, but the insecurity is always there at the back of my mind.
Yeah, it's rough. I finally got diagnosed correctly about ten years ago when I was 31, and even though I understand and my quality of life has improved well with the knowledge, there's still a kid inside me who is completely convinced that I am utterly defective and lazy and morally bankrupt. It's hard to let go, but we can keep working at it and surround ourselves with good people.
I got diagnosed at 14. I got bad grades because I thought I was lazy, since I was also labeled as talented and gifted when I was younger, but retrospectively, I'm a perfectionist, and it took me until 1-2 in the morning to finish just daily math homework (forget other assignments!) because it took me like 2 hours to get started and often I'd get distracted every 10 minutes because it was boring to me so it would take forever, so I would get burned out 3 weeks into the semester and give up and the reason I was skipping class to give myself a mental break and to not have to face the judgement of my teachers on a day where I didn't have the spoons to handle criticism. After almost flunking out, I finally accepted that I needed an IEP, which I'd avoided to avoid judgment from my peers (despite being fairly popular I was so afraid of rejection), and went from getting Ds and Fs to As and Bs that year. After getting through community college (because I didn't have a high enough GPA at graduation to do anything else) I got good grades in college and then transferred to the university and got my BA, which apparently isn't very common for ADHD people (like 15% of us ever graduate college). Despite this, I feel stupid, like really, truly stupid, every single day, usually multiple times a day, because I still have never have acquired a full time job (I never make it past the interview due to problem with recall and nerves, the 2 jobs I have are due to references from acquaintances). I make LESS money between my 2 jobs than people I know who *dropped out* of high school, which on top of being stressful is demoralizing, as not only do I feel extremely stupid for multiple stupid absent minded things daily, I feel stupid in general for bothering to go to college in the first place and racking up more debt than all the money I've made in my life combined instead of monetizing my now- dead UA-cam channel in 2010 (before Pewdiepie even started... I had 1k subs) because I thought it was a scam and I'd never make money that way, so I gave it up because school was how I'd be successful. 🤦♀️
@@_lil_lil god, I relate to way too much of what you just wrote. I'm in year 5 of my 4 year bachelor and will take at least 6 years to complete it. I'm honestly terrified of working life because I can't keep a job for more than 5 months. I'm sorry you're struggling. I wish I could help you. We just have to find a way to shape life in a way that works for our brains.
@@_lil_lil yeah, I'm in the 85% I made it to tenth grade and then into roughly our equivalent to highschool where I did really poorly and ended up hospitalised in a psych ward for three months because of a breakdown. I sometimes wish they knew about ADHD in women back then. I wonder how I would have done if I had had the resources available to me then as I see young people with ADHD and ASD have today. On the other hand, I see that you are all struggling with social media and all that stuff, which I am really thankful for wasn't a thing when I grew up. I can only imagine how much it would have crushed me, tbh.
@@Finkeldinken I really only got the very beginnings of social media in high school (Myspace and early Facebook when it was still a teen/young adult site mostly) and seeing how insecure I was at that age, I can only imagine that being compounded if I had been born 10+ years later.
Agreed! Every single thing about this interview was relevant to me, and if Ethan has more he'd like to explore with Dr. K I think it'd be super helpful to a lot of people. He's genuinely so thoughtful and introspective, an amazing fit for this kind of format!
It’s insanely accurate to my life too, I almost frustratingly screamed at times and I definitely shed a few tears when he told him about the first panic attack
i relate so so much too, one thing that comes to mind i’ve learned from my insecurity around feeling stupid is that 1. i crave being perceived (by myself, too) as intelligent - Ethan mentions being criticized as kid, a good exaple of where it could originate 2. vulnerability benefits me through my relationships, people like to hear about personal feelings, and if they dont care for your opinions, are those still valuable friendships to you?remembering this makes me want to open up more 3. now, i know myself enough to not consider myself stupid; if im ignorant ive also learned how to educate myself. I can feel confidence in that, and trust myself to try without dwelling on “mistakes” ,,cause people are more fixed on themselves most of the time ya’know
Ooooh what he said about anger being the only emotion that men are conditioned to be allowed to express. Immediately made me realise the anger is the only emotion that women are conditioned that they are absolutely NOT allowed to express. 🤯
I also had to think how anger is probably the one emotion women aren't allowed to show and they get shamed for a lot. All the other emotions are allowed, but well we also get shamed for being too emotional. Who ever formed this concept of men and women, its horrifying if you think of this deeper :(
@@KarlOlofsson But if only one expression is allowed, than you'll express other emotions as anger. That's the problem. For example, a guy is sad for being dumped, but since it's not ok to cry and feel devastated (and thus process feelings of loss, loneliness and impermanence), he'll hype himself to feel angry by projecting terrible attributes on to his ex. A lot of times it even ends up as committing violence against other human being.
"There's a difference between being unhappy and depressed" !!! not many people talk about this distinction and the importance of diagnosing it correctly
The point in the conversation where they talked about Ethan being forced to pick between UA-cam and gymnastics when Ethan said "I had to kill a version of myself off." really hit close to home.
I’m the same way, I have no problems expressing how I feel or how my mind is working, but I can’t change how it works. My brain says logically I could just work on fixing something about myself I want to change, but depression tells me that I won’t ever change and I’ll always be the same. All it takes is one moment. It’s frustrating because a lot of things that make me upset don’t logically make any sense, and my brain can reason that I am not what I think I am, but I still end up breaking down.
@@lostwings183 Take it for what it's worth, as it's the advice of a random on the internet, but i think there's a limit to the control of the mind over the matter, or a limit of the conscious over the inconscious. If your inconscious isn't happy because you're not doing what it wants, then you can try to rationalize it as much as you want, there will still be dissonance. Anxiety and Depression are likely evolutionary traits that represent something that helps an individual survive. Perhaps your body is telling you that it needs change ? I know this doesn't give a solution, nor does it give you motivation. Just know that many people have beat depression, hope that inspires you to strive for better things.
I admire his ability to put what’s in his head into words lol. I suck at it and after a few moments of trying to get the words right I start to get tears-eyed and embarrassed (especially with my mom, who gets mad when I cry)
"I had to kill a version of myself off." Such a devastatingly relatable sentance. Ive been thinking so much about that process- im a trans person and i feel fractured by having made decision to transition, an effective alienation from so many people places and things. I think about it almost every day- who i would have been, if i could have pulled it off.
💙I hope you find peace soon. That sounds like a complex emotional process that might take some serious time to work through. I wish you all the best and I am glad on your behalf that you didn't force yourself to stay in a role that you had to 'pull off' for life, even if that means a coming to terms and a mourning process for you right now.
It's like mourning a person that never existed. Someone died but theres no cultural path to follow to Express the grief over who you tried to be for so long. I hope you can find self love for the real you now.
I'm trans too and yeah i relate a lot. I think what Dr K said is really relevant here though. The "you" from before you came out and the "you" now may have two different gender identities, but there is one "you" that remains throughout the whole thing, and that is the real you. Sorry if i didn't articulate that well lol
That moment when he was going to force him to choose was hilarious. "Oh god, I am so sorry!" And damn, I love Dr. K's sense of humor. I love you, Ethan. You are a wonderful human being.
Listening to people talk in unhealthy, cruel or abusive ways, we know affects people negatively. It seeps into our own mentalities and if it doesn’t hurt us personally, it can make us at the very least emotionally distressed. Conversely, hearing people talk in healthy, positive and emotionally intelligent ways has such a beneficial effect! Thank you for producing emotionally healthy content ❤️
I agree! It’s like the saying that you’re the 5 people you spend the most time with. I always try to watch videos and spend the most time - even though online - with people that I find inspiring or role models. Bc I feel like that can truly help one to become the version of themselves that they want to be, you know? Anyways lol, I agree I love watching his videos for the same reason ❤️
I loved Unnus Annus. It was far more emotional in the end than I expected and while I've always been a Markiplier fan, I enjoyed Ethan in the series a lot more. He has a comedic and fun energy about him that I relate to. I also love his nickname - Eef.
I talked to an adhd therapist two days ago and „feeling stupid“ is something I can relate to very well. No matter how hard I try I feel like I always need to work harder than other people to reach „normal“. And forgetting names or words ... makes me look really dumb in front of my colleagues... I am trying to get better at it, but sometimes it’s so frustrating and exhausting Update after 2 years: I still cannot talk well and I have tried to improve, but instead of being upset with myself or calling myself dumb I have started to accept myself and my quirks more. Of course I will still try to improve, but I will also be patient and kind with myself and care less about what others think of me.
Precisely. I like talking about legitimate issues with people and having that sort of heavy discourse too, but sometimes I'll be mid sentence and will just forget the word "arbitrary" for instance, and it makes me feel really dumb.
@@senecarus_whitur if you talk chat with strangers without knowin who you are that forgetting words gose away and you get way better at expresing yourself at the moment and later talking ,you an see its trauma self hate scared of judgmental extra... writing do the job too
You should meet me! I am empathetic to the point that I regret it because it hits me so hard. I cry to the point where I can barely breathe and it doesn't even have to be an extreme thing.
The mind is incredibly good at finding quick solutions for the suffering it directly faces... sadly, that sometimes leads to suppression and other problems in the long run
i have alexithymia and i don't hear many people speak about it, but hearing that ethan has it as well makes me feel so happy and so less alone holy shit
I love that we went from "I think I'm dumb" to "here's how you attain enlightenment" in 2 hours. Thanks dr.k. And Eef (also happy 10 years dude, you're dope)
Impostor syndrome ruins me all the time... especially when I'm in a position where people depend on me and my work or else everything falls apart. Can always rely on the doc to help me learn about myself
Lol. I once worked at a restaurant where I was the only server on Monday to Friday (I worked the weekends as well, but there were more there then) And it wasn’t even that fucking slow. I’d have like 25 tables at a time while dealing with a hockey party out back. It was when I had to take a day off because I caught the flue and saw that the place dead ass closed for the couple days that I started having panic attacks. It was like, “wtf. Why do I care? Why did they do this?” I eventually told em to hire more people because my shifts were slowly becoming like a performance and I was starting to exist in a constant panic attack where I couldn’t stop making jokes about how to insane the situation is and how scared I was and everybody thought it was hilarious because panic attacks sound a lot like comedy cadence apparently. Plus, I learned that comedy makes bad emotions funny, so I just became funnier the more shit the situation got. But yeah. I get ya. I think it has to do with willingness to take on responsibility vs being thrown into responsibility. Normally if you take on responsibility, it is because you are passionate about the thing and the people you are responsible for. In some instances, that becomes a reality that you can’t control and you either need to remember why you are passionate about the thing, or just pass on the responsibility and move on. It’s never for nothing either. I may have eventually switched jobs. But, I gotta say that entertaining like 300 individual people a day maxed out my speech skill tree. It also maxed out my social anxiety cuz I’m still tryna not feel like everybody is watching me expecting food Nd laughs or some shit. So Like, idk. This resonated with me and I basically just did a journal entry on your post. Srry Abbas. But thanks for reminding me of that.
@@jacksonlaframboise6257 This was really a great reply actually, thank you. You're right about remembering and finding your passion. I can sometimes forget why I am where I am which makes the negativity flood in. Bless you bro 🙏
Even as someone who doesn't have ADHD (as far as I know), a lot of these experiences were very relatable. Not speaking in group settings for fear of being regarded as stupid, impostor syndrome, having to make really hard choices and sacrifice parts of my identity, finding it difficult to identify certain emotions. I think it's all part of the human experience, so please don't feel bad if any of these things are hard for you. I think it's kind of supposed to be hard, it's like how your brain begins to decode and uncover deeper truths.
As someone who does have ADHD it's a lot worse with adhd because some of that stuff like feeling stupid is something that gets forced into you because people see your symptoms before your potential and brush you off before you have a chance to demonstrate what you can do
I completely missed Unus Annus when it was still active, and later found out about it when it ended. I'm sure I would've loved it seeing as how genuine Ethan is in this stream.
I have a clip of Ethan saved up on my phone from one of the videos. It’s a lovely reminder of how HILARIOUS Eef was on the show and he still is on his channel.
But if you can take responsibility and accountability for that and be open and honest with them you can show them how to heal and deal with hurt and communicate their feelings to resolve problems and all the things that will protect them from long term hurt
I relate immensely with Ethan's experiences, insecurities and impostor syndrome. Try to force yourself to think that you're great and talented. With enough repetition, eventually, you might end up believing it, and then in turn, you will improve on many things you normally feel negatively about.
If Dr. K taught me anything it's definitely the fact that forcing yourself to do things usually ends up with the opposite effect. It's about sitting with the thoughts/feelings and being ok with those that'll help you move forward. I can get behind that sort of 'fake it, till you make it' mentality, because it sometimes has its strengths, but building a bridge to get you across the river can only get you so far. It will help you across the river, but what'll happen if you end up in the river anyways? You will drown if you don't know how to swim in it. Take this comment how you will, I'm just interested in your thoughts and what I had to say.
Every time I watch one of these videos I think that I'm not going to be able to empathize with the person being helped but end up feeling so strongly. Thank you.
im so proud of ethan, he meditated! also i havent seen many of these before but dang the fact that dr k also got emotional and was so invested and enthusiastic just felt so much
I can definitely relate with 'having to be the stupid version of myself', as school for me, is also a place where I under perform and don't really care to put effort into... But then there's also another part of me that brings that 'stupid self' home, atleast partly, whenever I try to talk to people in school... and also that lingering anxiety which slows me down even more...
yooo this fucking comment resonated with me becuase i feel like I have to be it and I can see it through my text messages too and so on but ugh i feel your pain and I do try as well but its hard because everyone sees me as stupid so its kinda like no choice but to play the stupid person? if you know what i mean? hopefully but anywyas hope i wasnt mean i actually felt this :"")
I'm surprised you didn't bring up codependency & self care & how realizing those things can lead to huge breakthroughs in awareness & healing. I used to bend over for people, too, & often felt stupid. It wasn't until it got too much for me & I started saying no & looking out for myself that my whole world changed. Also, how many of those kids he saw go off to college, dropped out, or completely changed paths because they realized they weren't following their own dreams, but dreams others wished they would follow. Parents, society. And now they are looking at Ethan & saying, man, I wish I was THAT guy. Lastly, if his Mom never made him choose, would you have taken the same path? Would you be where you are now? That moment was already planned & chosen to send you on the "correct path" you wanted. Even though there are really no correct paths. 🙂
If something is too intense for me to emotionally process, I just don’t. I’ll legit sit in a room like trying to cry for like 6 hours because I feel like I need to...morally. It takes waaay to much time. It’ll be like 8 years later when I’m just driving to work or some shit singing in my car when I’ll just randomly do this fucking laugh cry Nd have to pull over. It’s so weird. It happens before the emotion happens. Than the actual root of the emotion hits. And the whole time my brain is all like “yeah bro. Idk how to even go about expressing this. Ur just gonna like cry so hard you start laughing maniacally, imma randomly make your whole body cover in goosebumps and when you show up to work, your pupils are gonna be so huge that people r gonna think your on drugs.” It feels fffucking sooo gooood tho. It’s like that feeling when you listen to like, idk the solo from comfortably numb, but if that feeling was something you were experiencing and not just creating to resonate with the music. I just wish it didn’t take 8 years. It’s like, most people would be pretty happy if some drug made it so they didn’t have to pee again. But, we all have to admit that taking a piss feels pretty dope....I just wish that I didn’t hold my emotional piss in until I just randomly piss my emotional pants in public. Cuz having to take a piss slows you down. You become afraid of running and stuff because, what if you embarrass yourself? I just wish that there was like a routine way to release emotions, similar to a bathroom; that everybody used and was completely normal and taught at a young age. When you’re older, you just raise ur hand in class and go,”hey teach. I need a go to the emote room” (or some shit) and it’s just some padded sound proofed room where you can spend like a few mins a day in just going all tyler1 mode. Than you come back to class and can actually focus. Why isn’t this a thing? I wish this was a thing. To many people need to just let go of emotions, but there’s no place to just do that without looking crazy. Venting in a comment section over personal problems is too logical. It doesn’t work. Talking it out works, but it needs physical confirmation to actually stick for more than 20 minutes. Emotions are illogical, messy, stupid, whatever, but the most subjectively true thing that exists. Just like shitting, pissing and eating. Even if we did nothing, we would still have to do these things. And we all have to emote. Why aren’t emotions treated the same way? We eat in public and have a time and a place to deal with the dirty. We can be happy in public and deal with our demons by emotionally...shitting? Fuck. When I grow up, I’m gonna make rooms like this. Everybody is invited to just fucking spaz out. Tea and warm towels will be provided afterwards. Who’s down?
@@kristofere5160 it really is LOL. It's actually really insightful for me since I actually pissed myself in the middle of my PSAT two years ago from asking to use the restroom too late because I didn't want to lose precious time on my test; I ended up losing much more time in the process lmfaooo. It's probably one of the most embarrassing moments of my life but this analogy kinda makes me rethink the situation as a learning moment.
wow, his story hit home. I grew up as a gymnast (7-14). It really is a defining experience in my life. I spent so many hours in the gym and because of that was super tired during school/didn't really care about it to pay attention. On top of that I really struggled with paying attention in group settings. I still carry that insecurity around with me even though I have proved against it sometimes. The anxiety distracts me and diverts my attention. Its not even ADHD. Its the self talk that believes that i will always be that kid who is "stupid". It actually becomes a self fulfilling prophecy.
I had the same experiences. Though I quit going to the gym after years of time invested because of deppression and that hurt me alot because I was on a competitive level and it was my dream. I was living in a environment where everyone was trying to be perfect. There was teachers who literally told students to give up. I thought that quiting everything that I liked would improve my mental state and rather it led to way more deppression and stress and alot of crying. Everyday I woke up with panic to the point where my hands would shake. Playing video games didn't help at all. So I decided to quit school while I had my exams. I isolated myself half a year from everyone. It took about a month until I could watch youtube or play games without panic attacks. I learned a ton of programming. I convinced myself that everything would be alright. Luckly it did and it felt euphoric to know I still had a future. I am now going to another school where I have friends who care about me and teacher whom I feel I can trust.
I love seeing the cogs in ethan's mind turning and i love to see him smile. Also thank you Dr K for making each one of these sessions a unique one no matter how similar people's problems are.
I'm so happy that Eef has gotten to talk through some of his issues! Hopefully it'll do him some good cuz he's one of my favorite people and I think he deserves to not be held back by issues caused by his past. I haven't watched it yet but just by reading some of the advertising text I think I'm going to resonate with this well
it was really cool hearing the comments made around 40:50 about how ethan needs to let people see him so he can get the recognition he deserves, because it reminded me of that video near the end of Unus Annus where him and mark were in their suits sitting in the chairs (not the livestream, it was some video before that) and mark told him how he was almost disappointed because he had wanted to see ethan branch out more recently. and ethan knows this, he's probably been wanting and reminding himself for years that he should branch out, try new things, get creative, etc. but then to hear it on this show phrased in the same way as when his dad told him how proud he was of ethan, that puts it into a great perspective of how incredibly significant it really is for him.
holy sht i understood so deeply what ethan was talking about with adhd in social contexts and stuff. i was diagnosed earlier this year and im really still connecting all the dots on the different ways adhd affects me and my life. i never understood why i found conversations and stuff so hard and eventually like ethan i started to think i was just stupid. since my diagnosis it makes a lot more sense, but hearing from someone that they've gone through practically identical experiences makes it feel so much better.
Yet another extremely relatable series of topics, I think I need to learn to take my past OS systems that keep overwhelming my current master OS and convert them to read only reference files
very relatable, going through high school knowing everyones going to get through you still don't understand. My mum constantly saying i put in 10x the amount of work and get half the amount of grades...yet it never being able to stick in my brain.
Now that I think about it, having seen Ethan here, I actually would LOVE to see you talk with Markiplier. I think that the conversation with him would be so goddamn enjoyable because of his approach to life, and also helpful in many ways. Those who know Mark, they know what I'm talking about. Either way, great video and seeing you talk with Ethan made my day. Seeing any of the content creators just being themselves and genuine for a minute is really what makes us bond with them in a way they don't even realize we do. Keep up the good work sir!
I feel this, too. I was just diagnosed with Inattentive ADHD last year. For most of my life, I've felt so stupid about some things. I struggled a lot with some subjects in school, and I hid my inability to concentrate behind calling myself lazy, until I believed I was actually lazy. I even had a friend cut off a friendship with me in the 9th grade, and she listed all the things she didn't like about me- things which were my ADHD traits (and partially Autism, but mostly my ADHD). This sounds like it will be very cathartic to listen to. Thank you, Dr K! And thank you, Ethan, for willing to be vulnerable like this.
I was diagnosed with ADHD since I was like 10, my parents caught it on pretty early and always had psychological help and such, but the feelings of not being enough, feeling stupid, of guilt of not being able to do normal stuff others do almost effortlessly were always there, this is why conversations like this make such a big difference, I am 25 now and I still have to educate people that ADHD isn't just getting distracted by a fly mid conversation, there's SO many things behind it. Thank you for this Dr. K and Ethan!
Ethan deserves everything he's worked so hard for. And when he mentioned people having a shitty year while he had a great one, he shouldn't feel bad for that. The paths we take through our lives are meant to have ups and downs. It's okay to have different ones than everyone else. There's no need to compare. This episode was amazing. I love the profound questions that are given, and this gave me a lot to think about, personally. I still don't know who is am yet, either, so knowing now that I have to take the time to figure that out is going to help a lot. Also, thanks for the reminder to meditate more.
I was gonna type more things... then I hit the enter key prematurely. Didn't feel right to edit the comment nor bring up the other things on my mind. it's just perfect.
Dr. K, your knowledge and the way you teach it is so valuable and unique. I've been learning so much what I feel other psychologists couldn't explain. Keep going, never stop doing it as long as you enjoy it. You are really valuable for me and, I believe, for a lot of other people! :)
I loved seeing Ethan’s face just genuinely smiling and being comfortable while these new concepts were being introduced to him. Amazing. A lot of these ideas are very helpful for me. Wow.
I like watching these after taking a psych class. The dog and toilet analogy is a lot like, if not 100% is classical conditioning, and the Manas, Ahambara, bundi is a lot like Sigmond Frued’s Id, Ego, Super ego.
I don’t know how but every thing that are talked about in this links to my life and past and it kinda scares me and puts me in a fucking tornado of panic and I don’t know why. I’ve recently started to try to understand myself more and I did a bunch of research and I apparently have signs of ADHD myself and every time I see vids like this seeing someone with my issue talk about it, such a strong connection is made in my head I LOOSE IT. I’ve tried multiple times to get through vids like this but I never get through it. I need to learn how to take it in but I don’t know how. I hope to learn more and go deeper into myself without going crazy. But I really want to thank you and everyone who makes online content to help people like me and people in general. Even though I haven’t learned how to take it and use it properly it, I appreciate it. Thank you.
I love how Dr. K's mind works. If I were to stop someone and ask if I could think for a second, my mind would basically spin a pinwheel and take a vacation. I wish I could stop for a second and then actually spend it on the conversation at hand.
Holy crap his ADHD functions exactly like mine. I hadn’t thought of the not talking in groups as related and the mind wandering stuff helped, I have a lot of trouble with feeling like I can focus then completely losing it whenever I switch what I’m doing (like going from relaxing to doing homework)
I love how when Dr. K said a link between anxiety and muscle tension and then pointed at the shoulders.. Whenever I get stressed or worried it sits in my shoulders and my acupuncturist always says "you must have a lot on your mind" and then it brings to mind every chiropractic and massage visit I've had where the masseuse asks "have you been in a car accident?" and in my head, I just say "no I just have anxiety" LOL
1:27:18 1:33:30 - 1:33:45 holy shit, no wonder I stopped drawing for 9 months, as soon as I showed what I drew my self-esteem plummeted and when the best work happens is WHEN I don't care about other's opinions, is when I'm just myself NOW I understand why great artists are the way they are this is heavy, but i'm so very thankful that by watching this - I just in a way helped myself what surprises me is that, I came to that conclusion earlier back then, but didn't do anything about it also no wonder I don't show anyone what I've been drawing, I've been scared of judgement
1:21:53 “Why do you compare? How does it feel to be compared to these other people?” Oh my gosh exactly what Ethan said. I compare myself to others because other people do it all the time. The way Ethan put it was so perfect. It’s a conflicting feeling of both being honored to be even remotely associated with them but also wishing at the same time that people saw me as an individual and not just part of a group and constantly under their shadow. I wish I could be seen for who I am without them. I wish how people saw me wasn’t so tied to them in others’ minds.
What Dr.K spoke of in the last part after the meditation, about the theater and how judgments exists inside of the mind, finally flipped a switch for me. I've been struggling with staying in that non-judgmental and accepting state and I've never been able to describe it or put it to words before. I really hope this realization can ground me the next time stress and confrontation makes me lose my way. Thank you Dr.K !
I know this isn't real therapy but watching these is helping me in my own life and each time I watch one I feel a little more comfortable with taking steps to start therapy myself. I'll get there eventually
Just tried that style of focus in my meditation. Trying to be aware of the part of one's mind that brings you back into the meditation. So powerful. Makes me feel like there is a strength and a power, that can see above the noise and chatter. Something really wise.
Your channel will infect the world in the best way possible. We need people who understand mental health. I feel so much more able to manage my mental health. I spent 5 years in a crippling depression, rarely eating and hurting people, myself included at every turn. Never knew how to handle my thoughts. Finally decided to focus on my mental health, and my entire life and perspective are different. I want to infect the world aswell with the positivity. And i truly feel like the world will be harmonious with the human race and i think it will all lead to a great understanding overall. That means we level up.
I have been watching several of these interviews and I don't know how but it never ceases to get better. This was mind blowing. So much awesome information and processes going on. Thank you
This talk makes so much sense to me, i was struggling with the idea of the void in myself, this talk opened my eyes for a new perspective on this, thank you man, really, thank you.
Such a great interview! I'm glad that I find your channel I'm having all sorts of stuff from mind fatigue and fogginess to depression and anxiety from covid that it really devastated my life. I forget things just immediately after and can't study properly which effectively reduced my grade numbers. I am trying to break this cycle of procrastination and laziness for like 2 years now and after finding your channel I'm finnally started to get my senses back. The level of details you give in your videos are very helpful for fixing the problem on the fundamental levels. I'm 16 and I have my boards exams just 3 months later and I basically studied nothing but I know I will do better this time because I feeling very motivated and learned how to control my anxiety(meditation is very effective). Not to mention about what my social status is... Thanks!
me: student - yes struggles with life purpose - yes struggles with discipline - yes struggles with lacking motivation - yes struggles with isolation - yes has 24 dollars to spend per session - no my broke ass could never
Most of the people likes more to complain a about their issues than actually doing something about it because its way easier. I know that from my own experience.( I doubt that its about money.)
Boi i can spend $24 on a meal/restaurant during the two weeks ppl usually get paid doing normal jobs, or somethinng stupid like other things or a game, also i can borrow that from a fren or some family, im sure its not money either lol
24 dollar=1920tk in our country. And you can get a good breakfast with just 35tk. I agree with that. Things can be pretty different from country to country.
Great interview, the best part for me was the "who are you" discussion. Seems like such a straightforward approach, but we are never taught to think about it this way. Now I'm going to have to think about it and notice it myself :).
FYI, tapping (EFT) is not usually done by external "tappers"; usually a person taps on their own head and body. It's interesting if now there is some evidence that it works. I've done it myself with some success (generally only when I'm feeling some strong emotion that I want to work through; it doesn't seem to be effective if I'm not currently feeling strong emotions). It may be partly placebo effect -- but then again, the placebo effect is quite real.
I feel like this helped me a lot and not just because I love Ethan, I just love learning a lot about people and what they deal with so If I become friends with them I can help and not hurt where they are insecure, and honestly I really love this set up, trying to help someone, and make them get emotional to help with everything
Idk if I knew this at the time, but when I was accepted into a selective enrollment school, I did develop this imposter like feeling when I went there. I didn't feel like I deserved to be there for a long time, especially during the last 2 years of high school. I've coped with it through a lot of therapy and self-confidence building. It is still something I feel to this day and I'm 20.
I feel like when you've been hurt in certain ways, you gain the ability to spot others that hold that same pain, and I like to think it's so you can help each other
Im not being negative but I cant believe that someone with this much wisdom & empathy+understanding, and looks like a 25 y o guy is a professor in Harvard Im like wow... Man he makes total sense(in relation to this guy 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽)
Unus annus wouldn't have been this successful without Ethan point blank period. His unique comedic timing and personality made it the thing it was. I loved all of it and it changed my view about creating things. Nobody could have pulled off unus annus this way. Love goes out to you Ethan!
As Mark said, he could t see himself doing this with anyone eles. Mark sees so much potential in Ethan and wants him to achieve it, and go _even further beyond_.
Ethan deserves so much credit just as much as Mark, you can't have Annus without Unus. ♡
true, i feel like both of them where essential to make unus anus what it was. I personally don’t watch ethan or mark but I loved unnus anus. Each of them put their grain of sand and made a project that was bigger than both of them
Right. I've loved Mark for years but their chemistry is what made me coming back every single day, and that wouldn't have happened without Ethan.
I’ve always liked mark but never really watched his vids but unus annus was perfection because of the two of them. Ethan quickly became one of my favorite youtubers he’s just so adorable
Yeah they were all fantastic, Ethan, Mark and Amy
That hit home so hard. "It's almost protective to stop caring"
Not almost, IT IS! *"I'm not stupid, I just don't care." "Yeah, I'm getting bad grades, so what?"* It's masking insecurities with apathy. I know. I live it every day.
I've learned to lower my expectations for myself, but other people I know never have and it stresses me out
like I've failed 17 assignments this month come on Susan give up on me already I swear to gOD--
@@crowsoto9612 sometimes I feel like if no one had any expectations for me maybe I’d do well... but that’s just damn near impossible 💀
right? I just call myself lazy or say I don’t fuck with school like you guys do. but I try, really really hard. and it’s exhausting to get told I’m lazy either way, so I just gave up 😭
Always say things like this but every time I even think about my grades I get anxious and feel like I’m about to breakdown crying
Yeah same here. All your life being told that youre wasted potential is just not helping either
This one hurt. I've had undiagnosed inattentive type ADHD up until a year ago and my whole upbringing has been "Why can't you do this, everybody else can" - "Why can't you just be normal" - "You're not stupid, you just have to try harder and stop being lazy" and my parents had the best intentions (they thought tough love was the way to go) but their words have scarred me for life.
I feel stupid, genuinely stupid, at least once a week. I try to rationalize that I'm not, but the insecurity is always there at the back of my mind.
Yeah, it's rough. I finally got diagnosed correctly about ten years ago when I was 31, and even though I understand and my quality of life has improved well with the knowledge, there's still a kid inside me who is completely convinced that I am utterly defective and lazy and morally bankrupt.
It's hard to let go, but we can keep working at it and surround ourselves with good people.
I got diagnosed at 14. I got bad grades because I thought I was lazy, since I was also labeled as talented and gifted when I was younger, but retrospectively, I'm a perfectionist, and it took me until 1-2 in the morning to finish just daily math homework (forget other assignments!) because it took me like 2 hours to get started and often I'd get distracted every 10 minutes because it was boring to me so it would take forever, so I would get burned out 3 weeks into the semester and give up and the reason I was skipping class to give myself a mental break and to not have to face the judgement of my teachers on a day where I didn't have the spoons to handle criticism. After almost flunking out, I finally accepted that I needed an IEP, which I'd avoided to avoid judgment from my peers (despite being fairly popular I was so afraid of rejection), and went from getting Ds and Fs to As and Bs that year. After getting through community college (because I didn't have a high enough GPA at graduation to do anything else) I got good grades in college and then transferred to the university and got my BA, which apparently isn't very common for ADHD people (like 15% of us ever graduate college). Despite this, I feel stupid, like really, truly stupid, every single day, usually multiple times a day, because I still have never have acquired a full time job (I never make it past the interview due to problem with recall and nerves, the 2 jobs I have are due to references from acquaintances). I make LESS money between my 2 jobs than people I know who *dropped out* of high school, which on top of being stressful is demoralizing, as not only do I feel extremely stupid for multiple stupid absent minded things daily, I feel stupid in general for bothering to go to college in the first place and racking up more debt than all the money I've made in my life combined instead of monetizing my now- dead UA-cam channel in 2010 (before Pewdiepie even started... I had 1k subs) because I thought it was a scam and I'd never make money that way, so I gave it up because school was how I'd be successful. 🤦♀️
@@_lil_lil god, I relate to way too much of what you just wrote. I'm in year 5 of my 4 year bachelor and will take at least 6 years to complete it. I'm honestly terrified of working life because I can't keep a job for more than 5 months.
I'm sorry you're struggling. I wish I could help you. We just have to find a way to shape life in a way that works for our brains.
@@_lil_lil yeah, I'm in the 85%
I made it to tenth grade and then into roughly our equivalent to highschool where I did really poorly and ended up hospitalised in a psych ward for three months because of a breakdown. I sometimes wish they knew about ADHD in women back then. I wonder how I would have done if I had had the resources available to me then as I see young people with ADHD and ASD have today. On the other hand, I see that you are all struggling with social media and all that stuff, which I am really thankful for wasn't a thing when I grew up. I can only imagine how much it would have crushed me, tbh.
@@Finkeldinken I really only got the very beginnings of social media in high school (Myspace and early Facebook when it was still a teen/young adult site mostly) and seeing how insecure I was at that age, I can only imagine that being compounded if I had been born 10+ years later.
"It's hard to be invested in something that you don't believe that you can do." @38:32
Me in dentistry school
me in my school years basically
me always
@@rafauvu6196 Me too
Me in Medical school.
Please. Please. I beg you to have that 5 hour session with him. His life and emotions are SO SO SO RELATABLE. Please.
Agreed! Every single thing about this interview was relevant to me, and if Ethan has more he'd like to explore with Dr. K I think it'd be super helpful to a lot of people.
He's genuinely so thoughtful and introspective, an amazing fit for this kind of format!
It’s insanely accurate to my life too, I almost frustratingly screamed at times and I definitely shed a few tears when he told him about the first panic attack
i relate so so much too, one thing that comes to mind i’ve learned from my insecurity around feeling stupid is that 1. i crave being perceived (by myself, too) as intelligent - Ethan mentions being criticized as kid, a good exaple of where it could originate 2. vulnerability benefits me through my relationships, people like to hear about personal feelings, and if they dont care for your opinions, are those still valuable friendships to you?remembering this makes me want to open up more 3. now, i know myself enough to not consider myself stupid; if im ignorant ive also learned how to educate myself. I can feel confidence in that, and trust myself to try without dwelling on “mistakes” ,,cause people are more fixed on themselves most of the time ya’know
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Ooooh what he said about anger being the only emotion that men are conditioned to be allowed to express. Immediately made me realise the anger is the only emotion that women are conditioned that they are absolutely NOT allowed to express. 🤯
I absolutely love how Dr K actually takes a minute in real time to formulate a plan for each person instead of just assuming what to talk about.
It's wild that Dr. K said "There is one emotion men are allowed to express" and everyone just knew that was anger.
I also had to think how anger is probably the one emotion women aren't allowed to show and they get shamed for a lot. All the other emotions are allowed, but well we also get shamed for being too emotional. Who ever formed this concept of men and women, its horrifying if you think of this deeper :(
I think more people should allow themselves to feel angry though. I think we all need our full range of emotions, not just the "constructive" ones.
@@jele77 who ever? I don't think it was one person
@@jele77 disagree. Maybe a girl, but woman.. nah.
@@KarlOlofsson But if only one expression is allowed, than you'll express other emotions as anger. That's the problem. For example, a guy is sad for being dumped, but since it's not ok to cry and feel devastated (and thus process feelings of loss, loneliness and impermanence), he'll hype himself to feel angry by projecting terrible attributes on to his ex. A lot of times it even ends up as committing violence against other human being.
perfect timing for some healthy distraction
ayyy i watch your ludwig clips!
@@vanillaelf3320 ayyyy hey
Ah yes I love spending my entire days with healthy distractions ~
@@Fiscotte or not healthy... preferably healthy
damn why u exposing me like that, i watch these to feel like im fixing myself but in reality its just another distraction FeelsBadman
"There's a difference between being unhappy and depressed" !!! not many people talk about this distinction and the importance of diagnosing it correctly
The point in the conversation where they talked about Ethan being forced to pick between UA-cam and gymnastics when Ethan said "I had to kill a version of myself off." really hit close to home.
Ethan is incredibly smart, the way he's able to put his feelings into words so easily is incredible
I’m the same way, I have no problems expressing how I feel or how my mind is working, but I can’t change how it works. My brain says logically I could just work on fixing something about myself I want to change, but depression tells me that I won’t ever change and I’ll always be the same. All it takes is one moment. It’s frustrating because a lot of things that make me upset don’t logically make any sense, and my brain can reason that I am not what I think I am, but I still end up breaking down.
@@lostwings183 Take it for what it's worth, as it's the advice of a random on the internet, but i think there's a limit to the control of the mind over the matter, or a limit of the conscious over the inconscious. If your inconscious isn't happy because you're not doing what it wants, then you can try to rationalize it as much as you want, there will still be dissonance.
Anxiety and Depression are likely evolutionary traits that represent something that helps an individual survive. Perhaps your body is telling you that it needs change ?
I know this doesn't give a solution, nor does it give you motivation. Just know that many people have beat depression, hope that inspires you to strive for better things.
I admire his ability to put what’s in his head into words lol. I suck at it and after a few moments of trying to get the words right I start to get tears-eyed and embarrassed (especially with my mom, who gets mad when I cry)
@@hiffahyphae6707 Well, i think you've found the reason why you suck at it, you've got that going for you.
@@hiffahyphae6707 ooof. My mom would do the same.
"I had to kill a version of myself off." Such a devastatingly relatable sentance. Ive been thinking so much about that process- im a trans person and i feel fractured by having made decision to transition, an effective alienation from so many people places and things. I think about it almost every day- who i would have been, if i could have pulled it off.
💙I hope you find peace soon.
That sounds like a complex emotional process that might take some serious time to work through.
I wish you all the best and I am glad on your behalf that you didn't force yourself to stay in a role that you had to 'pull off' for life, even if that means a coming to terms and a mourning process for you right now.
@@Finkeldinken thank you, this is very kind! 💜
It's like mourning a person that never existed. Someone died but theres no cultural path to follow to Express the grief over who you tried to be for so long. I hope you can find self love for the real you now.
Be glad it doesn’t get pulled off Judas
I'm trans too and yeah i relate a lot. I think what Dr K said is really relevant here though. The "you" from before you came out and the "you" now may have two different gender identities, but there is one "you" that remains throughout the whole thing, and that is the real you. Sorry if i didn't articulate that well lol
Unus annus would never be unus annus without ethan. We all love and appreciate him.
So excited to see Ethan here. I have always felt that his struggles with adhd were deeply relatable to my own struggles.
Remember those times on unus annus when mark would say “you turn into a child... but ONLY when the camera is on” hmmmmm
I loved that :')
And he proved it immediately XD
Good times
That moment when he was going to force him to choose was hilarious. "Oh god, I am so sorry!" And damn, I love Dr. K's sense of humor. I love you, Ethan. You are a wonderful human being.
Listening to people talk in unhealthy, cruel or abusive ways, we know affects people negatively. It seeps into our own mentalities and if it doesn’t hurt us personally, it can make us at the very least emotionally distressed. Conversely, hearing people talk in healthy, positive and emotionally intelligent ways has such a beneficial effect! Thank you for producing emotionally healthy content ❤️
I agree! It’s like the saying that you’re the 5 people you spend the most time with. I always try to watch videos and spend the most time - even though online - with people that I find inspiring or role models. Bc I feel like that can truly help one to become the version of themselves that they want to be, you know? Anyways lol, I agree I love watching his videos for the same reason ❤️
Ethan seems super smart and kind too. Really charismatic.
I loved Unnus Annus. It was far more emotional in the end than I expected and while I've always been a Markiplier fan, I enjoyed Ethan in the series a lot more. He has a comedic and fun energy about him that I relate to. I also love his nickname - Eef.
Yes I love Mark but UA would've been nothing without Ethan.
Does anyone else understand the intense pang of regret after waking up in the morning and realizing you missed the countdown
@@galacticlavalamp6338 some people saved the livestream if you really want to see it still
@@galacticlavalamp6338 its part of the expirience and point. sometimes you miss things, and thats the end of it. u have to move forward
“grillet”
I talked to an adhd therapist two days ago and „feeling stupid“ is something I can relate to very well. No matter how hard I try I feel like I always need to work harder than other people to reach „normal“. And forgetting names or words ... makes me look really dumb in front of my colleagues... I am trying to get better at it, but sometimes it’s so frustrating and exhausting
Update after 2 years:
I still cannot talk well and I have tried to improve, but instead of being upset with myself or calling myself dumb I have started to accept myself and my quirks more. Of course I will still try to improve, but I will also be patient and kind with myself and care less about what others think of me.
Precisely. I like talking about legitimate issues with people and having that sort of heavy discourse too, but sometimes I'll be mid sentence and will just forget the word "arbitrary" for instance, and it makes me feel really dumb.
@@aniyilator
I forget names and simple words such as „groceries“ or „shopping card“ etc.
It’s so frustrating... it’s like my brain just glitches out.
Same.
@@senecarus_whitur if you talk chat with strangers without knowin who you are that forgetting words gose away and you get way better at expresing yourself at the moment and later talking ,you an see its trauma self hate scared of judgmental extra... writing do the job too
As an ADHD kid with a lot if similar issues holy shit I think I cried through this whole video
i have never met a person, who would cry for another person ( in my personal life ) it blows my mind every time Dr.k does it
They exist, my friend. Those who can't often can't do it for themselves. Once they can, those tears will flow 😌
Uve never met a person that will cry for another person what? It's actually pretty common, I live in Canada though :)
You should meet me! I am empathetic to the point that I regret it because it hits me so hard. I cry to the point where I can barely breathe and it doesn't even have to be an extreme thing.
Timestamp?
Dude what the fuck are talking about? Really? Stop the Cap
man Ethan is such a genuinely nice guy I love him
The mind is incredibly good at finding quick solutions for the suffering it directly faces... sadly, that sometimes leads to suppression and other problems in the long run
Very well said.
Brain works for survival and you can't be defenceless for long in the wild. So you need quick solutions.
feelings are for fucking nerds
- comment made by oh god it's gonna catch up to me again fuck come on just another 5 years please gang
The human brain is so so so smart but also very dumb sometimes right??
@@galacticlavalamp6338 it is rather sophisticated in some aspects and absolutely terrible in others ;D
i have alexithymia and i don't hear many people speak about it, but hearing that ethan has it as well makes me feel so happy and so less alone holy shit
This is like second hand therapy for me HOLY
I love that we went from "I think I'm dumb" to "here's how you attain enlightenment" in 2 hours. Thanks dr.k. And Eef (also happy 10 years dude, you're dope)
"What do you usually go by?"
What Ethan wanted to say: ...eef...
Impostor syndrome ruins me all the time... especially when I'm in a position where people depend on me and my work or else everything falls apart. Can always rely on the doc to help me learn about myself
kinda sus
Lol. I once worked at a restaurant where I was the only server on Monday to Friday (I worked the weekends as well, but there were more there then) And it wasn’t even that fucking slow. I’d have like 25 tables at a time while dealing with a hockey party out back. It was when I had to take a day off because I caught the flue and saw that the place dead ass closed for the couple days that I started having panic attacks. It was like, “wtf. Why do I care? Why did they do this?” I eventually told em to hire more people because my shifts were slowly becoming like a performance and I was starting to exist in a constant panic attack where I couldn’t stop making jokes about how to insane the situation is and how scared I was and everybody thought it was hilarious because panic attacks sound a lot like comedy cadence apparently. Plus, I learned that comedy makes bad emotions funny, so I just became funnier the more shit the situation got. But yeah. I get ya. I think it has to do with willingness to take on responsibility vs being thrown into responsibility. Normally if you take on responsibility, it is because you are passionate about the thing and the people you are responsible for. In some instances, that becomes a reality that you can’t control and you either need to remember why you are passionate about the thing, or just pass on the responsibility and move on. It’s never for nothing either. I may have eventually switched jobs. But, I gotta say that entertaining like 300 individual people a day maxed out my speech skill tree. It also maxed out my social anxiety cuz I’m still tryna not feel like everybody is watching me expecting food Nd laughs or some shit. So Like, idk. This resonated with me and I basically just did a journal entry on your post. Srry Abbas. But thanks for reminding me of that.
@@jacksonlaframboise6257 This was really a great reply actually, thank you. You're right about remembering and finding your passion. I can sometimes forget why I am where I am which makes the negativity flood in. Bless you bro 🙏
Even as someone who doesn't have ADHD (as far as I know), a lot of these experiences were very relatable. Not speaking in group settings for fear of being regarded as stupid, impostor syndrome, having to make really hard choices and sacrifice parts of my identity, finding it difficult to identify certain emotions. I think it's all part of the human experience, so please don't feel bad if any of these things are hard for you. I think it's kind of supposed to be hard, it's like how your brain begins to decode and uncover deeper truths.
As someone who does have ADHD it's a lot worse with adhd because some of that stuff like feeling stupid is something that gets forced into you because people see your symptoms before your potential and brush you off before you have a chance to demonstrate what you can do
I completely missed Unus Annus when it was still active, and later found out about it when it ended. I'm sure I would've loved it seeing as how genuine Ethan is in this stream.
Ohhhh boy. Trust me man you missed out but it was definitely amazing to see Ethan as a genuine person.
I think Ethan is going to try and make more UnusAnnus-type videos in the future, so don't think you missed everything!
Same, I missed all of it. I've seen parts, and I'm genuinely gutted I missed out, but I'm looking forward to seeing what's next
I have a clip of Ethan saved up on my phone from one of the videos. It’s a lovely reminder of how HILARIOUS Eef was on the show and he still is on his channel.
dm me ;)
43:20 it's inevitable were going to psychologically damage our kids no matter how much we love them. Real talk
You can’t psychologically damage a cat!
Actually that’s not true you can
I hate that this is true
and that's why i won't be having kids until i'm sure i can afford therapy for them and myself...
But if you can take responsibility and accountability for that and be open and honest with them you can show them how to heal and deal with hurt and communicate their feelings to resolve problems and all the things that will protect them from long term hurt
@@butasimpleidiotwizard this. its not as grim as it seems
I relate immensely with Ethan's experiences, insecurities and impostor syndrome.
Try to force yourself to think that you're great and talented. With enough repetition, eventually, you might end up believing it, and then in turn, you will improve on many things you normally feel negatively about.
If Dr. K taught me anything it's definitely the fact that forcing yourself to do things usually ends up with the opposite effect. It's about sitting with the thoughts/feelings and being ok with those that'll help you move forward. I can get behind that sort of 'fake it, till you make it' mentality, because it sometimes has its strengths, but building a bridge to get you across the river can only get you so far. It will help you across the river, but what'll happen if you end up in the river anyways? You will drown if you don't know how to swim in it.
Take this comment how you will, I'm just interested in your thoughts and what I had to say.
That genuinely works
Every time I watch one of these videos I think that I'm not going to be able to empathize with the person being helped but end up feeling so strongly. Thank you.
Same! I empathized with even Albert!
1:05:10 God this moment was tragic. Dr. K accidentally poking Ethan’s “wound”/tragic experience that they spend so much time digging up to process.
im so proud of ethan, he meditated! also i havent seen many of these before but dang the fact that dr k also got emotional and was so invested and enthusiastic just felt so much
I can definitely relate with 'having to be the stupid version of myself', as school for me, is also a place where I under perform and don't really care to put effort into... But then there's also another part of me that brings that 'stupid self' home, atleast partly, whenever I try to talk to people in school... and also that lingering anxiety which slows me down even more...
yooo this fucking comment resonated with me becuase i feel like I have to be it and I can see it through my text messages too and so on but ugh i feel your pain and I do try as well but its hard because everyone sees me as stupid so its kinda like no choice but to play the stupid person? if you know what i mean? hopefully but anywyas hope i wasnt mean i actually felt this :"")
I'm surprised you didn't bring up codependency & self care & how realizing those things can lead to huge breakthroughs in awareness & healing. I used to bend over for people, too, & often felt stupid. It wasn't until it got too much for me & I started saying no & looking out for myself that my whole world changed. Also, how many of those kids he saw go off to college, dropped out, or completely changed paths because they realized they weren't following their own dreams, but dreams others wished they would follow. Parents, society. And now they are looking at Ethan & saying, man, I wish I was THAT guy. Lastly, if his Mom never made him choose, would you have taken the same path? Would you be where you are now? That moment was already planned & chosen to send you on the "correct path" you wanted. Even though there are really no correct paths. 🙂
If something is too intense for me to emotionally process, I just don’t. I’ll legit sit in a room like trying to cry for like 6 hours because I feel like I need to...morally. It takes waaay to much time. It’ll be like 8 years later when I’m just driving to work or some shit singing in my car when I’ll just randomly do this fucking laugh cry Nd have to pull over. It’s so weird. It happens before the emotion happens. Than the actual root of the emotion hits. And the whole time my brain is all like “yeah bro. Idk how to even go about expressing this. Ur just gonna like cry so hard you start laughing maniacally, imma randomly make your whole body cover in goosebumps and when you show up to work, your pupils are gonna be so huge that people r gonna think your on drugs.” It feels fffucking sooo gooood tho. It’s like that feeling when you listen to like, idk the solo from comfortably numb, but if that feeling was something you were experiencing and not just creating to resonate with the music. I just wish it didn’t take 8 years. It’s like, most people would be pretty happy if some drug made it so they didn’t have to pee again. But, we all have to admit that taking a piss feels pretty dope....I just wish that I didn’t hold my emotional piss in until I just randomly piss my emotional pants in public. Cuz having to take a piss slows you down. You become afraid of running and stuff because, what if you embarrass yourself? I just wish that there was like a routine way to release emotions, similar to a bathroom; that everybody used and was completely normal and taught at a young age. When you’re older, you just raise ur hand in class and go,”hey teach. I need a go to the emote room” (or some shit) and it’s just some padded sound proofed room where you can spend like a few mins a day in just going all tyler1 mode. Than you come back to class and can actually focus. Why isn’t this a thing? I wish this was a thing. To many people need to just let go of emotions, but there’s no place to just do that without looking crazy. Venting in a comment section over personal problems is too logical. It doesn’t work. Talking it out works, but it needs physical confirmation to actually stick for more than 20 minutes. Emotions are illogical, messy, stupid, whatever, but the most subjectively true thing that exists. Just like shitting, pissing and eating. Even if we did nothing, we would still have to do these things. And we all have to emote. Why aren’t emotions treated the same way? We eat in public and have a time and a place to deal with the dirty. We can be happy in public and deal with our demons by emotionally...shitting? Fuck. When I grow up, I’m gonna make rooms like this. Everybody is invited to just fucking spaz out. Tea and warm towels will be provided afterwards. Who’s down?
I’m so down
Your pissing metaphor is so good😅
@@kristofere5160 it really is LOL. It's actually really insightful for me since I actually pissed myself in the middle of my PSAT two years ago from asking to use the restroom too late because I didn't want to lose precious time on my test; I ended up losing much more time in the process lmfaooo. It's probably one of the most embarrassing moments of my life but this analogy kinda makes me rethink the situation as a learning moment.
This is SUCH a good idea what f*ck. I so want to do this.
emotionally pissing my pants is something i'd like to get as a print on a hoodie lol
wow, his story hit home. I grew up as a gymnast (7-14). It really is a defining experience in my life. I spent so many hours in the gym and because of that was super tired during school/didn't really care about it to pay attention. On top of that I really struggled with paying attention in group settings. I still carry that insecurity around with me even though I have proved against it sometimes. The anxiety distracts me and diverts my attention. Its not even ADHD. Its the self talk that believes that i will always be that kid who is "stupid". It actually becomes a self fulfilling prophecy.
I had the same experiences. Though I quit going to the gym after years of time invested because of deppression and that hurt me alot because I was on a competitive level and it was my dream. I was living in a environment where everyone was trying to be perfect. There was teachers who literally told students to give up. I thought that quiting everything that I liked would improve my mental state and rather it led to way more deppression and stress and alot of crying. Everyday I woke up with panic to the point where my hands would shake. Playing video games didn't help at all. So I decided to quit school while I had my exams. I isolated myself half a year from everyone. It took about a month until I could watch youtube or play games without panic attacks. I learned a ton of programming. I convinced myself that everything would be alright. Luckly it did and it felt euphoric to know I still had a future. I am now going to another school where I have friends who care about me and teacher whom I feel I can trust.
I love ethans content so much, i think hes so versatile and yet always manages to stay with his personality. I think hes really cool tbh
I love seeing the cogs in ethan's mind turning and i love to see him smile. Also thank you Dr K for making each one of these sessions a unique one no matter how similar people's problems are.
This is one of the most relatable interviews I have ever seen of anybody, by anybody. Both of you are amazing, thank you.
anytime dr k talks about adhd in depth it feels so cathartic and relieving for me. i never got support or help for my adhd as a child.
Hey do you remember which other videos he talked about it in? I’d love to see more of it
@@fangirl5940 he's done some with mizkif !!! :)
@@kimioops oooh thank you!!
You know it's gonna be a good one when you see Dr K bust out the napkins.
I'm so happy that Eef has gotten to talk through some of his issues! Hopefully it'll do him some good cuz he's one of my favorite people and I think he deserves to not be held back by issues caused by his past. I haven't watched it yet but just by reading some of the advertising text I think I'm going to resonate with this well
it was really cool hearing the comments made around 40:50 about how ethan needs to let people see him so he can get the recognition he deserves, because it reminded me of that video near the end of Unus Annus where him and mark were in their suits sitting in the chairs (not the livestream, it was some video before that) and mark told him how he was almost disappointed because he had wanted to see ethan branch out more recently.
and ethan knows this, he's probably been wanting and reminding himself for years that he should branch out, try new things, get creative, etc. but then to hear it on this show phrased in the same way as when his dad told him how proud he was of ethan, that puts it into a great perspective of how incredibly significant it really is for him.
I just found your channel and I think you’re filling a really important niche here on the internet! keep up the good work 💕
welcome!
holy sht i understood so deeply what ethan was talking about with adhd in social contexts and stuff. i was diagnosed earlier this year and im really still connecting all the dots on the different ways adhd affects me and my life. i never understood why i found conversations and stuff so hard and eventually like ethan i started to think i was just stupid. since my diagnosis it makes a lot more sense, but hearing from someone that they've gone through practically identical experiences makes it feel so much better.
"I'm gonna force you to choose."
"Uhhh"
"OH GOD YOU DON'T HAVE TO CHOOSE!"
"I'm gonna force you to choose"... hahaha that was so spontaneous. I love how Ethan took it... great ice breaker....
He articulates his feelings and thoughts very well 😊
Yet another extremely relatable series of topics,
I think I need to learn to take my past OS systems that keep overwhelming my current master OS and convert them to read only reference files
I fell asleep while waiting for Dr K to turn on his cam for this live and woke up when we raided someone.
you poor soul, here take this flower ✿
Damn you were really tired
@@aidaadib2937 no I'm just Australian
@@methylatedlysine yeah I got it
@@methylatedlysine twitch is cruel to us non-Americans
very relatable, going through high school knowing everyones going to get through you still don't understand. My mum constantly saying i put in 10x the amount of work and get half the amount of grades...yet it never being able to stick in my brain.
Now that I think about it, having seen Ethan here, I actually would LOVE to see you talk with Markiplier. I think that the conversation with him would be so goddamn enjoyable because of his approach to life, and also helpful in many ways. Those who know Mark, they know what I'm talking about.
Either way, great video and seeing you talk with Ethan made my day. Seeing any of the content creators just being themselves and genuine for a minute is really what makes us bond with them in a way they don't even realize we do. Keep up the good work sir!
I want to find out once and for all if he is a masochist
@@MsHermyGranger sadomasochist
I second that. I've wondered if he would consider coming on here and what we would find out that we might not have heard him talk about before
I second that, would be great to see Mark on here
Tbf i would love to see healthy Gamer talk to ant UA-camr lol
my god this one spoke to me. and i fucking LOVE how dr K tackled the meditation practices and describing self identity from meditation
I feel this, too. I was just diagnosed with Inattentive ADHD last year. For most of my life, I've felt so stupid about some things. I struggled a lot with some subjects in school, and I hid my inability to concentrate behind calling myself lazy, until I believed I was actually lazy. I even had a friend cut off a friendship with me in the 9th grade, and she listed all the things she didn't like about me- things which were my ADHD traits (and partially Autism, but mostly my ADHD). This sounds like it will be very cathartic to listen to. Thank you, Dr K! And thank you, Ethan, for willing to be vulnerable like this.
I was diagnosed with ADHD since I was like 10, my parents caught it on pretty early and always had psychological help and such, but the feelings of not being enough, feeling stupid, of guilt of not being able to do normal stuff others do almost effortlessly were always there, this is why conversations like this make such a big difference, I am 25 now and I still have to educate people that ADHD isn't just getting distracted by a fly mid conversation, there's SO many things behind it.
Thank you for this Dr. K and Ethan!
Ethan deserves everything he's worked so hard for. And when he mentioned people having a shitty year while he had a great one, he shouldn't feel bad for that. The paths we take through our lives are meant to have ups and downs. It's okay to have different ones than everyone else. There's no need to compare.
This episode was amazing. I love the profound questions that are given, and this gave me a lot to think about, personally. I still don't know who is am yet, either, so knowing now that I have to take the time to figure that out is going to help a lot. Also, thanks for the reminder to meditate more.
I just want to say THANK YOU.
I was gonna type more things... then I hit the enter key prematurely. Didn't feel right to edit the comment nor bring up the other things on my mind. it's just perfect.
Dr. K, your knowledge and the way you teach it is so valuable and unique. I've been learning so much what I feel other psychologists couldn't explain.
Keep going, never stop doing it as long as you enjoy it. You are really valuable for me and, I believe, for a lot of other people! :)
Thank you... you finally helped me understand meditation and adhd... I can't wait to start mental pushups
I loved seeing Ethan’s face just genuinely smiling and being comfortable while these new concepts were being introduced to him. Amazing. A lot of these ideas are very helpful for me. Wow.
I like watching these after taking a psych class. The dog and toilet analogy is a lot like, if not 100% is classical conditioning, and the Manas, Ahambara, bundi is a lot like Sigmond Frued’s Id, Ego, Super ego.
I don’t know how but every thing that are talked about in this links to my life and past and it kinda scares me and puts me in a fucking tornado of panic and I don’t know why. I’ve recently started to try to understand myself more and I did a bunch of research and I apparently have signs of ADHD myself and every time I see vids like this seeing someone with my issue talk about it, such a strong connection is made in my head I LOOSE IT. I’ve tried multiple times to get through vids like this but I never get through it. I need to learn how to take it in but I don’t know how. I hope to learn more and go deeper into myself without going crazy. But I really want to thank you and everyone who makes online content to help people like me and people in general. Even though I haven’t learned how to take it and use it properly it, I appreciate it. Thank you.
i'm so excited about this one... i relate to the vast majority of ethan's struggles, especially as someone with ADHD and dyslexia. thank you for this
this is so incredibly relatable like i have never related to anybody more. it's basically free therapy with less anxiety it's great.
Long live the internet
This all made me miss therapy so much. Knowing that I can get help for my issues and don’t have to figure it out myself is so comforting.
I love how Dr. K's mind works. If I were to stop someone and ask if I could think for a second, my mind would basically spin a pinwheel and take a vacation. I wish I could stop for a second and then actually spend it on the conversation at hand.
Holy crap his ADHD functions exactly like mine. I hadn’t thought of the not talking in groups as related and the mind wandering stuff helped, I have a lot of trouble with feeling like I can focus then completely losing it whenever I switch what I’m doing (like going from relaxing to doing homework)
I love how when Dr. K said a link between anxiety and muscle tension and then pointed at the shoulders.. Whenever I get stressed or worried it sits in my shoulders and my acupuncturist always says "you must have a lot on your mind" and then it brings to mind every chiropractic and massage visit I've had where the masseuse asks "have you been in a car accident?" and in my head, I just say "no I just have anxiety" LOL
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1:33:30 - 1:33:45
holy shit, no wonder I stopped drawing for 9 months, as soon as I showed what I drew my self-esteem plummeted
and when the best work happens is WHEN I don't care about other's opinions, is when I'm just myself
NOW I understand why great artists are the way they are
this is heavy, but i'm so very thankful that by watching this - I just in a way helped myself
what surprises me is that, I came to that conclusion earlier back then, but didn't do anything about it
also no wonder I don't show anyone what I've been drawing, I've been scared of judgement
1:21:53 “Why do you compare? How does it feel to be compared to these other people?” Oh my gosh exactly what Ethan said. I compare myself to others because other people do it all the time. The way Ethan put it was so perfect. It’s a conflicting feeling of both being honored to be even remotely associated with them but also wishing at the same time that people saw me as an individual and not just part of a group and constantly under their shadow. I wish I could be seen for who I am without them. I wish how people saw me wasn’t so tied to them in others’ minds.
What Dr.K spoke of in the last part after the meditation, about the theater and how judgments exists inside of the mind, finally flipped a switch for me.
I've been struggling with staying in that non-judgmental and accepting state and I've never been able to describe it or put it to words before. I really hope this realization can ground me the next time stress and confrontation makes me lose my way.
Thank you Dr.K !
I know this isn't real therapy but watching these is helping me in my own life and each time I watch one I feel a little more comfortable with taking steps to start therapy myself. I'll get there eventually
Just tried that style of focus in my meditation. Trying to be aware of the part of one's mind that brings you back into the meditation. So powerful.
Makes me feel like there is a strength and a power, that can see above the noise and chatter. Something really wise.
Watching Unus Annus from start to end... that last hour, as odd as it may sound was really emotional.
Your channel will infect the world in the best way possible. We need people who understand mental health. I feel so much more able to manage my mental health. I spent 5 years in a crippling depression, rarely eating and hurting people, myself included at every turn. Never knew how to handle my thoughts. Finally decided to focus on my mental health, and my entire life and perspective are different. I want to infect the world aswell with the positivity. And i truly feel like the world will be harmonious with the human race and i think it will all lead to a great understanding overall.
That means we level up.
I have been watching several of these interviews and I don't know how but it never ceases to get better. This was mind blowing. So much awesome information and processes going on. Thank you
Dude this was such a fulfilling watch. Those last few minutes were so wholesome too :)
This one resonates hard.
Same. Honestly I can relate so much
"I'm gonna give you a meditation practice that you're gonna be terrible at"
"Great" 😆
This talk makes so much sense to me, i was struggling with the idea of the void in myself, this talk opened my eyes for a new perspective on this, thank you man, really, thank you.
I watched this live yesterday. It was a great interview and I learned a lot! Thank you Dr. K and much love to Ethan for sharing your story.
Such a great interview! I'm glad that I find your channel I'm having all sorts of stuff from mind fatigue and fogginess to depression and anxiety from covid that it really devastated my life. I forget things just immediately after and can't study properly which effectively reduced my grade numbers. I am trying to break this cycle of procrastination and laziness for like 2 years now and after finding your channel I'm finnally started to get my senses back. The level of details you give in your videos are very helpful for fixing the problem on the fundamental levels. I'm 16 and I have my boards exams just 3 months later and I basically studied nothing but I know I will do better this time because I feeling very motivated and learned how to control my anxiety(meditation is very effective). Not to mention about what my social status is... Thanks!
me:
student - yes
struggles with life purpose - yes
struggles with discipline - yes
struggles with lacking motivation - yes
struggles with isolation - yes
has 24 dollars to spend per session - no
my broke ass could never
Most of the people likes more to complain a about their issues than actually doing something about it because its way easier. I know that from my own experience.( I doubt that its about money.)
Boi i can spend $24 on a meal/restaurant during the two weeks ppl usually get paid doing normal jobs, or somethinng stupid like other things or a game, also i can borrow that from a fren or some family, im sure its not money either lol
@@woah2woe 24 dollars in other countries might be worth a lot more
24 dollar=1920tk in our country. And you can get a good breakfast with just 35tk. I agree with that. Things can be pretty different from country to country.
When you can't afford to get therapy, so you watch others get therapy on UA-cam XD
I'm currently a psychology student and I want your job one day. You are so amazing.
Bringing us the most honest and wholesome contents in the internet. Thank you Dr. K!
Great interview, the best part for me was the "who are you" discussion. Seems like such a straightforward approach, but we are never taught to think about it this way. Now I'm going to have to think about it and notice it myself :).
FYI, tapping (EFT) is not usually done by external "tappers"; usually a person taps on their own head and body. It's interesting if now there is some evidence that it works. I've done it myself with some success (generally only when I'm feeling some strong emotion that I want to work through; it doesn't seem to be effective if I'm not currently feeling strong emotions). It may be partly placebo effect -- but then again, the placebo effect is quite real.
It works well for my panic disorder and agoraphobia.
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That was so hilarious HAHAH.
I’ve never seen Ethan’s content before but he seems pretty chill - will definitely check out his work.
Also I definitely didn’t think I was stupid when I thought “Unus Annus” meant One Asshole or something. Oopsies.
@@nyle1935 Haha, you're not the only one who made that mistakes.
And I hope you enjoy Ethan's content, he's a really nice guy :)
@@nyle1935 considering what ethan and mark did on this channel it's a valid interpretation
I feel like this helped me a lot and not just because I love Ethan, I just love learning a lot about people and what they deal with so If I become friends with them I can help and not hurt where they are insecure, and honestly I really love this set up, trying to help someone, and make them get emotional to help with everything
I can’t untangle my thoughts and emotions, let alone other’s. Which is why I’m impressed by Dr. K’s complex yet clear thought process and patience.
Idk if I knew this at the time, but when I was accepted into a selective enrollment school, I did develop this imposter like feeling when I went there. I didn't feel like I deserved to be there for a long time, especially during the last 2 years of high school. I've coped with it through a lot of therapy and self-confidence building. It is still something I feel to this day and I'm 20.
I feel like when you've been hurt in certain ways, you gain the ability to spot others that hold that same pain, and I like to think it's so you can help each other
Ethan: I feel like I'm not worth people's time.
Me: * Just finished Five Nights at Hyper for the third time * What now?
yeah I was like bruh, it´s not like someone is making us to watch you or there is nothing else to do
The definition of impostor syndrome
Im not being negative but I cant believe that someone with this much wisdom & empathy+understanding, and looks like a 25 y o guy is a professor in Harvard
Im like wow... Man he makes total sense(in relation to this guy 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽)