Its obvious that we are gathering 5 pieces of Taniks The Forbidden One, however rumor has it that if we gather all 5 pieces, Taniks will gift us a Telesto Catalyst
Let it be known that, aside from actual lore, the Delicate Tomb's blurb "The danger within is repulsive to us" and the catalyst quest "The Form of The Danger" are references to nuclear waste warning messages.
Yup, we got a piece of the being in our new seasonal gun. If you look at the gun, you can see on the butt of it, it looks like a reliquary with black stains coming out of it
Should also add when you reload the Delicate Tomb and remove the mag, the bottom of the gun reveals the resonant pattern you can see on the Vow armour. Could be an aesthetic choice, but considering it moves in the exact same way I think it might be a subtle hint
I'm 100% on board the Nezarec being in the relics train. The thing that sold it for me was funny enough the ornament chestpiece that pairs with Nezarec's Sin for this season which has Darkness Resonance all over it. Really rad stuff.
Figured it was Nezerecs Body parts as soon as he we learned about eliksni taking chunks. Ps. The stand we are putting them on looks like a Syfy coffin. Wonder if we'll bring him back once we have all the pieces
@@commongivemeanicknam Spoilers The Eliskni found the pyramid on the moon and they went inside of it, there they found Nezerec (Nezerec is called the darkest hour and the hall in the pyramid is called the Chapel of the Darkest Hour). The Eliksni found within the pyramid a body, dead but brimming with energy and darkness and they took parts of it and set them into reliquaries to boost themselves up during a time of struggle. So yeah, 100% the pieces of Nezerec and we are assembling them.
I thought Nezerac too. The pyramid ship was plundered long time ago and the pyramid thieves found Nezeracs body. They made reliquaries cuz there’s darkness power and the rest is history
While I think Nezarak is in the relics, I think we'll bring him back and not the Witness. Simply because bringing someone back from the dead is the opposite of what the Witness wants to achieve
One of Savathun’s lines in 2 Lies, 2 Truths talks about how the Pyramid Blade is one of the keys to defeating the Witness. Perhaps it’s possible that we will resurrect Nezarec somehow, and Nezarec will then be one of our keys for defeating the Witness, perhaps either being the “Pyramid Blade” himself or by helping us craft one.
Reminds me of Egyptian mythology tbh. Dead parts placed in jars. Except in that case it was for preservation, not total Containment. Actually it's similar to the Ahamkara. Dead body parts that hold immense power? Pretty similar.
Was convinced since reading Delicate Tomb's blurb that the jars contained his essence lich-phylactery style, wasn't prepared to hear there's actual bits of him in 'em though. Typically resurrection isn't the Witness' style, but maybe he's still be 'alive' per the sword logic even if body-less.
Thanks for making these videos, Byf. Helping me get lore-snobs to see how vast and rich the Destiny universe really is, when they assume it's a "brainless" shooter purely because of genre.
@@HerpilOG all of the content that byf describes is lore contained in game, I watch his videos because I don't have time to get to like the raid lore, and his speculation is usually pretty good
I mean, if one of the tombs is Nazerc’s 4th one, it seems to me very believable that the Whitness may be trying to bring him back, since it seems like it wouldn’t have been his first time dying. Or it could just be the reliquaries, but my money is still on Nezarec for sure.
@My name is Byf - Look at someone when they're holding it. You can see at the back of the gun and the front it has black stains, stains that are in the direction of a barrel flash and also the kickback at the butt of the gun. If it wasn't obvious that exotic IS one of the Reliquaries turned into a gun.
that entire thing from "yet one among them understands" sounds like Eris made this weapon, and its essentially Netzeraks "Touch of Malice" with pretty much the same idea behind it that Oryx had. Just that instead of having Oxyx`s power in form of the heart, Netzeraks is split into his reliquarys. Collecting them all and melding theire power might reform Netzerak throu expression of whatever aspect he was going for. Also as for his alligence, his weapons seems a lot brighter than the other darkness weapons. Maybe he was also starting to use the light at some point and became a threat to the witness throu this. It`s weapon trait is also called "Traitor`s Vessel", so there`s that.
Reliquaries make perfect sense, that given in the context of Destiny in general, bits of powerful dead things have featured throughout the lore and game itself. Ahamkara bones spring to mind.
thank you for the video. just a few bits of my observations: - based on last week’s dialogue this reliquary contains a power similar to that of the TRAVELER! - based on the “cry mutiny” loretab, the object pulses with intermittent light! as well as it is a pure form of darkness as misraaks said, would nicely go with nezarec’s description “the purest light, the darkest hour”
Thank you for taking the time to actually care enough to say that and not try to spoil the story for people who haven't finished it yet. Says a lot about your character.
Interesting that these threads for Nezerec are coming back up in the season that a universal Legendary ornament for Nezerec's Sin is released. One of many signs
Still waiting for her to throw her rock at Drifter like she did Cayde. It would be a funny, under the radar homage that would fit in with their arguments. I love their chemistry, it always gives me a good laugh. I'm not really one for shipping characters, but they would make a great pair.
Fun fact: "The Tomb of Horrors", one of the most infamous and most reviled dungeons in all Dungeons and Dragons lore (primarily for how dickish it is at instakilling or stealing a party's equipment)...is ALSO known as "The Tomb of Nezarec". ...I think we may have a new godawfully hard Raid in the works...
I feel bad for Nezerac if he is in there. Why? Cus he's probably just taking a nap. Nobody is going to ask him if he wants to come back I'm sure. Pretty rude.
I doubt the Witness will revive Nezerac because that defies the Sword Logic, but I do believe he wants the reliquaries to enhance the Darkness powers of himself and/or his disciples.
The Witness doesn’t follow the sword logic, atleast not the same one that the hive/worm gods created/follow/interpreted(we don’t know specifically). The Witness doesn’t have a problem with giving and resurrection, and he actually basically saves Rhulk from death which itself would go against the hives sword logic. In fact it is made clear that the Witness considers the Traveler to be the one taking, not him. Not to mention Nezerac has likely been killed and revived many times before as there is lore denoting his 4th tomb, ie he has died 4 times potentially. In addition the Scorn do not follow the sword logic and are actually able to be resurrected as a result of the darkness power they possess. All of the lore post Witch Queen has pointed to an indication that oryx and the hive partially misunderstood the teachings of the witness. Rhulk doesn’t even have a throne world as he considers that power to be beneath him, a power gained through the hive sword logic. The Witness says in Beyond light “But where the light takes, the dark gives…in the dark there is only life” the witness considers himself to be the one giving, where as giving according to the sword logic is the worst thing you can do. What I think is that the Hive interpreted the Witnesses teaching as that you must prove your worth through death into order to achieve the final shape which will be you. Whereas what his actual teaching was that you should kill not for yourself but in order to *give* others the chance to prove themselves. This is even proved in the lore story we get of Rhulk where he strategically kills the Ahslid in order to try and turn Uun into another disciple. He is not mindlessly killing like Oryx in order to strengthen himself, he is very specifically killing in order to try and strengthen someone else (he says this himself), to *give* someone else the chance to ascend. He specifically fails because the Ahslid are wiped out, which to Oryx would be a triumph. This is the fatal misunderstanding of Oryx and the Hive, and why I believe Oryx was not selected as a disciple, but merely a tool the Witness used. He wasn’t worthy of the witness’s true lesson of irrelevance, in fact if anything Oryx thought the opposite, that he should become the most important, the only, thing in the universe.
@@Moobeus Throne Worlds aren’t exclusive to Sword Logic. They’re exclusive to Gods, or those of some divinity. He doesn’t have one because he thinks he’s above Sword Logic. Rhulk doesn’t have one because he thinks he’s above DIVINITY.
@@darthsonic4135 every throne world we know is achieved through the sword logic. Even Mara’s is as a result of the paracausal energy of guardians/riven being tithed to it. You can’t just be a god and have a throne world, you have to use the sword logic.
One thing I noticed when I was playing through shadowkeep again was that, at the end, when you go into the lunar pyramid. The relic you recover has a design to it that is somewhat similar to the containers we have recovered.
One thing that Drifter mentions as being in the reliquaries is "a knot of old hair," and for some reason, that got me thinking. It's definitely far from anything concrete, but do any other races have hair besides Humans? Fallen and Hive have more of an exoskeleton, Vex obviously don't, and Cabal, while usually armored, don't appear to have any from the times we see their skin. This got me further thinking: what if Nezarec was the Human disciple? Obviously it's not a solid theory yet, but it's interesting to consider. Calus being selected basically disproved the idea that you have to be the last of your kind. Going into speculation: I think it would be interesting if the reason he's dead and his Pyramid empty is because Nezarec died of old age, something the Witness did not expect, considering how it seems most other races are biologically immortal. This could tie into why It was scouting Clovis for disciplehood, because It was waiting for a human that would be able to escape that one weakness.
I mean, Fallen do have hair. The dregs have it cut into a Mohawk, and as the one guy said the hive originally had a 10 year lifespan(though it’s more like 8 year average, as the osmium king was 10 and considered older than he should be)
@@thomasfrye6335 Then could Nezarec be an Eliksni? The Myth of a treasure that could ensure their saftey and glory after the Traveler fled Riss, would perpetuate a state of violence, and would also fit the theme of a cursed Pirate Treasure that drives those who seek it to violence and grief. It is mentioned that there was a part of the Eliksni population that stayed on Ris, so as it was consumed by darkness, it wouldn't be suprising (to me) if one Eliksni was selected from those who remained to give the Eliksni something to pursue *besides* the Traveler. Even if it was just smoke and mirrors, his "death" may very well have been why it kept them from the Traveler for so long, stopping them from interfering with the Traveler, or telling of the Darknesses intentions, cause that could cause humanity to give a false positive.
Tbf people mentioning the krill only living to 10 forget that They had the worm gods on the planet as a way to extend the krill’s life and it appears a biological compatablity with them. Better than the eliksni at least which is proven by the scorn experiments mostly failing
I’ve been reading a lot of the old lore released during Forsaken, and I’ve seen several stories that I don’t believe ever had a follow up. For example, Cyrell the Ghost Hunter. I’m not sure if he is a reference to something from another franchise, but his story in particular stood out to me as something I’d like to see mentioned again. Did he ever find his answer? What was his question? Is his story one still ongoing or has it reached an unfortunate end? Are there any other mentions of him in the lore? Are there any other unconcluded and forgotten stories?
When picking up your catalyst for Delicate Tomb from Banshee, the text pop up says something about Banshee "having a bad feeling about making the weapon more powerful"
Im on board with the Nezarec train, however i believe that he would work with us if we were to bring him back. I believe that the Witness is seeking them to destroy them, not to bring them together. The delicate tomb’s intrinsic is called “traitor’s vessel” perhaps inferring that Nezarec betrayed the witness. The blurb for the delicate tomb utilizes the “us” pronoun in a similar fashion to the Witness as well, perhaps telling us that the Witness is disgusted by what is contained inside the jars. We also have to look to the idea that perhaps Nezarec worked alongside Savathun to prevent the collapse, if Savathuns worm is to be believed to tell the truth. I speculate that Nezarec betrayed the Witness not in favor of the light, but not to betray the dark. In the nezarec’s sin exotic armor it doesnt say specifically that he is aligned to specifically the dark or the light, but instead to dusk, so maybe he sees it as fighting against the Darkness to prevent light from being supressed entirely, but not for the Light, but to achieve balance instead. We also have to assume that the Witness is not the Darkness itself, but rather a counter equivalent to the guardians, If the Darkness’ logic is to be pushed to the final shape, and if savathun is to be believed that the final shape is nothing, should it be possible that that is also the true form of the darkness? Nothing? If the darkness wishes to achieve the simplest, strongest, form, then what form is simpler than nothing at all? But the Witness has a form, it isnt a blob or air or a gaseous cloud or something, its just a humanoid, so maybe the witness isnt even the Darkness itself. Back to the Nezerec argument, so if the Witness isnt the darkness, then that should give him justification to kill him, for he is more powerful than the light, and Nezarecs betrayal did predate the guardians, so it could be that he sought to destroy the witness to create balance instead of empowering the light, but also not having the light be supressed by the darkness. Im just going to leave it at that but i feel like theres so much more.
Drifter really said "damn bitch, you live like this?" To Eris, and I am even more here for the two of them being a pair than ever before. They're such a good duo. This season has surprised me with so much MoonRat content
I am seriously excited to see where pieces connect. It's turning up to be my favorite season so far (I unfortunately have been spoiled and will respectly not say anything)
hey man. regardless if I hear about a small bit here or there. I will ALWAYS come to your channel for lore. you put it all together the best way possible and I will continue supporting your channel anytime you release a video
I am suddenly reminded of a scene in Akira (The anime version) where Tetsuo finds the remaining pieces of the Akira in the underground lab that unearths. Then BOOM, when Tetsuo's power has reached the peek of its uncontrollable wrath the specimen jars shatter and Akira is reborn. So I guess the question is: Who or what are we about to bring back into existence? :EDIT: Or who, if that's the way the narrative unfolds, was powerful enough to defeat, vivisect, and store with great care (Shielding the Darkness within) this potential Disciple's various parts?
Just started the video. Just wanna say that this season has really drawn me back into Destiny. I'm loving ketchcrash and the story so far, as a player since destiny day 1, I'm glad theres something making me play every day again
Thank you for piecing this together in this way. Big respects for gathering what is available in the game and being a place I can trust not to involving data mined content.
I think the style of delicate tomb would be the style of nezarec's pirámid or the relics because the relics share colors like for example a normal pirámid is not the same as rhulk's pyramid
there once was an eliksni called taniks who was baron of his house who had fame, power, and wealth beyond your wildest dreams but before the guardians killed him (again) these where his final words "my fortune is your for the taking but you'll have to fine it first i left everything i own in ONE PIECE"
Nezerec is being setup for after The Final Shape as part of one of the new factions that we are seeing. I'm not sure if that means they will be with Darkness or not. He could be a temporary ally, or they could be an enemy that survives the death of The Witness.
@@BroadFame please read before commenting. AFTER The Final Shape. Not setup for The Final Shape. It doesn't at all mean all new enemies. Bungie isn't dumping the entire game or any of the races. They aren't dumping the majority of the main characters even. Even if we leave Sol enemies persist. They aren't going to suddenly have Light and Darkness powers removed from the game. They'll still be Light and Dark. It just won't be the focused as the saga as the current Traveller/Witness story. Basically, everything you have said is beyond stupid.
@@thechunkmaster8794 IKR? And even if we did abandon Sol we aren't dumping Light and Dark entirely. They aren't just stripping us of our power. The same enemies will still exist. They aren't just recreating all new characters. Now is the time we are seeing factions develop for after The Final Shape. Pieces are in motion to setup what is next.
I get the implication that possessing, or perhaps consuming, one of these organic Darkness-radiating pieces would imbue a person with great power (ala Yuji Itadori with Sukuna's fingers), but for what purpose does The Witness want them? Presumably they're already the pinnacle of Darkness power, so it's likely not for self exaltation. Maybe it's to enhance new Disciples like Calus?
One thing to note about Delicate Tomb is the "Traitor's Vessel" exotic perk, which implies that this "tomb" belongs to........well, a traitor. If it really is Nezarec speaking in the loretab, then it's likely that he was the part of some form of betrayal. Whether he was the traitor or the betrayed is still up in the air, but when an Exotic Perk is named in such a way it can sometimes pertain to an individual. For example, Duality's perk "On Black Wings" likely refers to Crow who was its original wielder when he worked for Spider, and the Bombardiers' exotic perk "parting gift" could be in reference to Tallulah Fairwind tossing her bow to Caliban 8 before being consumed by an Ahamkara. So, it's possible that Nezarec could've been the "traitor" in this situation, and had a "vessel" prepared for him as a result. The quote "They think me contained, but I am instead diffused, as vapor upon the wind" could be Nezarec referring to the ones who placed him in his tomb. There's not much more I can talk about without delving into leaks.
Tin foil o clock! I have not read any spoilers but I always thought it was nezerec although lately I’ve been thinking if it was Toland. It’s a bunch of body parts and Toland is “the shattered”. His body being literally shattered and spread into different containers because of the knowledge he held about the nature of the darkness or the witness.
After this week when we put the relic in helm. The insight by Eido had me think of what happened with the Necrotic grips, in both cases there were infighting over dead flesh with darkness power inside the flesh. I hope when it's opened we take safety protocols and open it.
Something interesting i wanted to bring up. In Egyptian Mythology when Set the god of Evil betrays his brother Osiris, Set cuts him up into multiple pieces and scatters his body parts all across Egypt. The reason for this is because (at least to the Egyptians) a god can not die but can at least be bound and made inactive. I wonder if something similar is happening here. And if it is i also wonder if it will end the same. At the end of the story Isis is able to find all of Osiris's parts except his heart. In a last ditch effort she brings him back to life but since he was not whole Osiris was bound to the Underworld as he was now undead.
This is interesting considering that in the Martian missives lorebook (which is admittedly a misinformation campaign by savathun), caiatl says that her scouts found osiris' remains on nessus "vivisected almost beyond recognition"
I’m just really excited about the old lore threads either wrapping up or pushing forward and all the new threads leading up to February. These last couple seasons have really been setting the proverbial chessboard for utter chaos to ensue both in lore and game.
Honestly beware as best as you can...I spoiled myself and watched the Spoiler that is out there thinking it was something we'd unlock at the end of this week's activities. Boy was I mistaken 😭. Saw more than I expected so eyes up Guardians if you don't want to be like me
I was casually scrolling my feed one day when I come across these datamined leaked cutscenes. I was like, "damn, this is so cool and well animated it looks just like a real one." Then I realized.
I would suggest some other direction to look into: the loretab of Cry Mutiny. It tells of an Eliksni that has encountered the Witness during what seems like the Long Drift. I woder if that's her body parts.
Something that genuinely confuses me & I've made the joke no wonder Nezerec disowned the Witness! The Exotic Helmet = Void, you need to use Void Weapons & Abilities to fully benefit from it. Nezerecs Glaive: a gift from the Witness is ARC! The Delicate Tomb = ARC! Perhaps it was Arc that was used to defeat Nezerec & the Glaive started it? Then Delicate Tomb being Arc potentially holding a piece of Nezerec inside, the Arc energy keeping him captive?
Byf, you probably already know but the delicate tomb also has the moving squares (on the barrels of the VotD weapons) inside the gun, you can see them turning while reloading the weapon as well if you slow the speed down
The dialogue on Delicate Tomb reminds me of how Rhulk speaks in such a broken, unnatural way, using a lot of poetic words and flow but also being short with its sentences and leaving an open conclusion on what it's referring to.
if nezerac is in these perhaps he betrayed the witness he could’ve been a rlly strong enemy and given what we know about the darkness and how the witness does not control it so to speak but uses it i think nezerac is a true wielder of darkness like how we have mastered the light and maybe those creatures drifter interacted with where the same species as him darkness could be a natural thing to them and we’ve seen before that the darkness itself isn’t inherently evil. this could also link to how it’s incredibly hard to kill these creatures if they even can die and would make sense for the witness to have to seperate a being of such power until he can find a way to destroy them completely again just a theory
It could be that instead of Nezarec's perspective, it's the Witness's perspective of Nezarec speaking in the lore tab. Edit: Forgot to mention that it sounds like the Witness describes Nezarec's protrayal of itself and/or its ideals.
It can't be a coincidence that the seasonal exotic describes becoming whole again and describing pieces being brought together to form a larger whole, and we're quite literally bringing pieces of what seems to be a larger being back together.
Low key if you’re throwing a fit about getting spoilers on the internet you are being a child. If you don’t want spoilers, consume the content. If you cant consume the content be an adult, accept your situation and dont expect the entire world to wait for you. Or even MAYBE don’t go to a bear cave and be angry when there is a bear in it.
I'm beyond excited for where this part of the story is going with ramping up the Nezarec hype and I am very much looking forward to seeing this space-lich once their remains are all brought together.
Delicate Tomb's lore tab gives me the vibe that the relics dont even need to be combined, they just have to be near each other and Nezerac will resurrect
Eido : These relics are using darkness to shield something inside… I should not open it until I am certain of the outcome Drifter : aww hell yeah these are like kinder eggs never know what toe you’re gonna get
I believe we may be heading in the direction of Nezarec coming back in the style of a Lich. Reliquaries and rotting flesh, making me think back to DnD Lichdom... Looking forward to what comes in the next few weeks!
Hey byf I appreciate the hard work you put into your lore videos keep up the great work. Don’t worry about the people spoiling lore content I can only speak for myself I only watch your lore videos and I normally wait for your videos to pop up anyway.
Reliquaries also relate to how the Ancient Egyptians would take each organ part and place it into its own jar. I had no idea about the saints bit, which was cool to learn. I had a theory this season while inspired by piracy, is heavily leaning into Egyptian - Eurasian historical themes Destiny has too. I'm a little rusty on my Ancient Egypt, but each organ was weighed at the time of judgement (the scales). There's a slight theme this season in relation to the concept of judgement, which is what immediately set off the thought back to the Egyptian Afterlife and why that relates so much to who might be in the jars.
Little pet theory of mine, but I wonder if due to human ancient pyramids in deep human past that Nezerac or our species were the chosen of Darkness and that relationship didn't pan because Humanity is capable of using light and dark.
got my headcanon for delicate tomb from a guy on reddit, put together a solid string of lore pointing to delicate tomb being alakhul light blade ascended into a weapon
ahhh i remember when people swore Nezarec was a One off mention, myth among the lore, they built the mystery of Nezarec up nicely! The brightest light and darkest hour and he shall rise again! And so shall we
what i just renoticed was that there are fallen ships on the moon like the one you get ralniks hatched for the essence of jealousy in a room that looks exactly like the servitor room of the ketchcrash missions and there are even the rest of the rooms in there. so we have even more locations of the old crews ships and they are on the moon
The Seasonal exotic combo'd with the reliquaries, the theory about Nezarec, the various tomb iconography, and the symbol on the exotics handle/handguard thingie invoking trials of osiris with that eye icon, im thinking it's alluding to ancient egypt, funeral burying practices, etc. Considering how colourful the old tombs tend to be irl the colour choices for the exotic and its reed like patterns also fall in line owo
Damn adding the delicate tomb lore tab in it really does sound like we are unwittingly resurrecting a powerful being. The once again becoming sounds like some type of paracausal plan coming to fruition. Something like Mara did with her "sacrifice" at saturn or the hive sisters dying to empower oryx only to return with the proper rituals.
So given what we have seen so far, i think it is safe to say that given we are basically hunting their version of a saint this we have now officially began a bizzare adventure involving some steel balls
I'm so glad you made this video as I was naturally curious to hear your perspective on the contents of The Relics that Eramis is trying to obtain. Much like you, I believe that Nezarec's remains are what in the Relics or relicories as Eris more appropriately calls them and the evidence that supports this theory is truly remarkable, definitely pointing in that direction.😳👍🏼 Speaking of Eramis, as well as Mithrax and The Spider, I don't think they've read that Passage from Of Hated Nezarec from the lore tab of Nezarec's Sin cuz if they did, especially Eramis and Mithrax, they would've stumbled on this part of it that's recently come to mind: "...Fear not. All He offers is not as dark as it may seem. For Nezarec is no demon, but a fiend, arch and vile in ways unknown. He is a path and a way, one of many. And his sin-so wicked, so divine-is that he will never cower when dusk does fall, but stand vigilant as old stars die and new Light blinks its first upon this fêted eternity." I remember you theorizing way back about what could Nezerac's actually sin be and I think now with these Relicories in play, I think his sin was betraying The Witness. Think about it for sec. Why else would he be dead? This Passage from Of Hated Nezarec is a piece of Pre-Golden Age writing, meaning BEFORE The Traveler arrived in our system, which means this was written waayy before the creation of Guardians. And I don't think it could of been any of the other alien races that The Traveler left behind. Soo, then what could of killed Nezerac? I think it was The Witness or Rhulk at the command of It. Since it's been a long time after his death, maybe The Witness thinks that Nezarec learned his lesson of betraying it, but much like us with people we dislike, I think Nezarec still may have a grudge against The Witness. If this is true and he is to be resurrected by Eramis, then there's a good chance that he might be on our side, which would great for us going forward into Lightfall and The Final Shape, but this is just speculation, so I could be completely wrong on some things.🤔😁👍🏼
Its obvious that we are gathering 5 pieces of Taniks The Forbidden One, however rumor has it that if we gather all 5 pieces, Taniks will gift us a Telesto Catalyst
I don’t think so, I already have the telesto catalyst
Belly laughing at this one XD
the catalyst will crash and uninstall the game of whoever you kill in trials
Good God…it all makes sense now
DAMN this got me good lololololol. Like the most borked Exodia summon imaginable 😂😂
Let it be known that, aside from actual lore, the Delicate Tomb's blurb "The danger within is repulsive to us" and the catalyst quest "The Form of The Danger" are references to nuclear waste warning messages.
I am the danger
Oooooh, yes! That project to design a universal warning structure! Imma find a link!
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long-term_nuclear_waste_warning_messages
Yup, we got a piece of the being in our new seasonal gun.
If you look at the gun, you can see on the butt of it, it looks like a reliquary with black stains coming out of it
@@marenjones6665 replying so I get notified for this
I'm glad this season has more interactions between drifter and Eris. May their ship stay alive and well for a long time now
What If this entire season is just a plot by Drifter to create a really nice gift for Eris?
“I like to the way you talk!”
“I I like your silence.”
I swear, they’re almost like a married couple.
Should also add when you reload the Delicate Tomb and remove the mag, the bottom of the gun reveals the resonant pattern you can see on the Vow armour. Could be an aesthetic choice, but considering it moves in the exact same way I think it might be a subtle hint
Actually if you look at it frame by frame it looks really similar to the hilt on heartshadow. Or it looks like the eye of Osiris (the god)
@@haidenhaas3422 oh no way I didn’t notice!
I'm 100% on board the Nezarec being in the relics train. The thing that sold it for me was funny enough the ornament chestpiece that pairs with Nezarec's Sin for this season which has Darkness Resonance all over it. Really rad stuff.
What's the ornament chest piece ?
@@DemonReaper105 Nezarecs Robes.
And the new exotic fusion rifle lore
Have to ask, does the robes do anything special when both are equipped?
@@DemonPikachu66 the yellowish wavy glow from pyramid tech stats flowing all over the robes.
Figured it was Nezerecs Body parts as soon as he we learned about eliksni taking chunks.
Ps. The stand we are putting them on looks like a Syfy coffin. Wonder if we'll bring him back once we have all the pieces
What, like the Corpse Parts from Jojo Part 7??
How are Eliksni connected to Nezy?
@@commongivemeanicknam it gave them stands (jk)
@@commongivemeanicknam Spoilers
The Eliskni found the pyramid on the moon and they went inside of it, there they found Nezerec (Nezerec is called the darkest hour and the hall in the pyramid is called the Chapel of the Darkest Hour). The Eliksni found within the pyramid a body, dead but brimming with energy and darkness and they took parts of it and set them into reliquaries to boost themselves up during a time of struggle. So yeah, 100% the pieces of Nezerec and we are assembling them.
I thought Nezerac too. The pyramid ship was plundered long time ago and the pyramid thieves found Nezeracs body. They made reliquaries cuz there’s darkness power and the rest is history
While I think Nezarak is in the relics, I think we'll bring him back and not the Witness. Simply because bringing someone back from the dead is the opposite of what the Witness wants to achieve
> implying that they're dead to begin with.
One of Savathun’s lines in 2 Lies, 2 Truths talks about how the Pyramid Blade is one of the keys to defeating the Witness. Perhaps it’s possible that we will resurrect Nezarec somehow, and Nezarec will then be one of our keys for defeating the Witness, perhaps either being the “Pyramid Blade” himself or by helping us craft one.
How many relics are there? 5 relics for 5 tombs of Nezarak?
@@orionpisces5875 they are in pieces, I'm pretty sure.
@@twelved4983 I was always assuming the Pyramid Blade was the piece of the first Glave we found in the Pyramid tbh
Reminds me of Egyptian mythology tbh. Dead parts placed in jars. Except in that case it was for preservation, not total Containment.
Actually it's similar to the Ahamkara. Dead body parts that hold immense power? Pretty similar.
I called it being mummified remains a week and a half ago
There called canopic jars
Reminds me of Osiris where his body parts were reassembled. Could that be the route we’re going?
Catholic tradition does something similar the body parts of saints are considered Holy relics
Makes me think of Osiris
Was convinced since reading Delicate Tomb's blurb that the jars contained his essence lich-phylactery style, wasn't prepared to hear there's actual bits of him in 'em though. Typically resurrection isn't the Witness' style, but maybe he's still be 'alive' per the sword logic even if body-less.
Well if you read the Vow if the disciple Exotic sparrow lore book , You will find that Mr. leg day himself has his own way of doing it
Like oryx?
“Once again, I am becoming.”
And once again, the Destiny 2 writers have sent a chill down my spine with a single line of text.
Thanks for making these videos, Byf. Helping me get lore-snobs to see how vast and rich the Destiny universe really is, when they assume it's a "brainless" shooter purely because of genre.
It is though, this should all be In game shouldn’t need it explained constantly
@@HerpilOG it is in game, you just have to have critical thinking skills.
@@HerpilOG u not just said that right? 🤣💀
@@HerpilOG … Are you a time traveler? Because that hasn’t been a thing since Destiny 1.
@@HerpilOG all of the content that byf describes is lore contained in game, I watch his videos because I don't have time to get to like the raid lore, and his speculation is usually pretty good
I mean, if one of the tombs is Nazerc’s 4th one, it seems to me very believable that the Whitness may be trying to bring him back, since it seems like it wouldn’t have been his first time dying. Or it could just be the reliquaries, but my money is still on Nezarec for sure.
Oh shiiiit, it's fuckin' Nezerac's bones. Gonna put that sucker back together. Wonder if he'll be next season's villain or something for Final Shape?
@My name is Byf - Look at someone when they're holding it. You can see at the back of the gun and the front it has black stains, stains that are in the direction of a barrel flash and also the kickback at the butt of the gun.
If it wasn't obvious that exotic IS one of the Reliquaries turned into a gun.
Holy shit they turned Nezarec's cock into a gun. /s
What gun?
@@johnnymcclain4100
Delicate Tomb
that entire thing from "yet one among them understands" sounds like Eris made this weapon, and its essentially Netzeraks "Touch of Malice" with pretty much the same idea behind it that Oryx had. Just that instead of having Oxyx`s power in form of the heart, Netzeraks is split into his reliquarys. Collecting them all and melding theire power might reform Netzerak throu expression of whatever aspect he was going for. Also as for his alligence, his weapons seems a lot brighter than the other darkness weapons. Maybe he was also starting to use the light at some point and became a threat to the witness throu this. It`s weapon trait is also called "Traitor`s Vessel", so there`s that.
Reliquaries make perfect sense, that given in the context of Destiny in general, bits of powerful dead things have featured throughout the lore and game itself. Ahamkara bones spring to mind.
thank you for the video. just a few bits of my observations:
- based on last week’s dialogue this reliquary contains a power similar to that of the TRAVELER!
- based on the “cry mutiny” loretab, the object pulses with intermittent light! as well as it is a pure form of darkness as misraaks said, would nicely go with nezarec’s description “the purest light, the darkest hour”
Thank you for taking the time to actually care enough to say that and not try to spoil the story for people who haven't finished it yet. Says a lot about your character.
Interesting that these threads for Nezerec are coming back up in the season that a universal Legendary ornament for Nezerec's Sin is released. One of many signs
I honestly am enjoying how much Eris' and drifter's relationship has evolved ever since season of arrival
Still waiting for her to throw her rock at Drifter like she did Cayde. It would be a funny, under the radar homage that would fit in with their arguments.
I love their chemistry, it always gives me a good laugh. I'm not really one for shipping characters, but they would make a great pair.
Fun fact: "The Tomb of Horrors", one of the most infamous and most reviled dungeons in all Dungeons and Dragons lore (primarily for how dickish it is at instakilling or stealing a party's equipment)...is ALSO known as "The Tomb of Nezarec".
...I think we may have a new godawfully hard Raid in the works...
I feel bad for Nezerac if he is in there. Why? Cus he's probably just taking a nap. Nobody is going to ask him if he wants to come back I'm sure. Pretty rude.
I doubt the Witness will revive Nezerac because that defies the Sword Logic, but I do believe he wants the reliquaries to enhance the Darkness powers of himself and/or his disciples.
The Witness doesn’t follow the sword logic, atleast not the same one that the hive/worm gods created/follow/interpreted(we don’t know specifically). The Witness doesn’t have a problem with giving and resurrection, and he actually basically saves Rhulk from death which itself would go against the hives sword logic. In fact it is made clear that the Witness considers the Traveler to be the one taking, not him. Not to mention Nezerac has likely been killed and revived many times before as there is lore denoting his 4th tomb, ie he has died 4 times potentially. In addition the Scorn do not follow the sword logic and are actually able to be resurrected as a result of the darkness power they possess. All of the lore post Witch Queen has pointed to an indication that oryx and the hive partially misunderstood the teachings of the witness. Rhulk doesn’t even have a throne world as he considers that power to be beneath him, a power gained through the hive sword logic. The Witness says in Beyond light “But where the light takes, the dark gives…in the dark there is only life” the witness considers himself to be the one giving, where as giving according to the sword logic is the worst thing you can do. What I think is that the Hive interpreted the Witnesses teaching as that you must prove your worth through death into order to achieve the final shape which will be you. Whereas what his actual teaching was that you should kill not for yourself but in order to *give* others the chance to prove themselves. This is even proved in the lore story we get of Rhulk where he strategically kills the Ahslid in order to try and turn Uun into another disciple. He is not mindlessly killing like Oryx in order to strengthen himself, he is very specifically killing in order to try and strengthen someone else (he says this himself), to *give* someone else the chance to ascend. He specifically fails because the Ahslid are wiped out, which to Oryx would be a triumph. This is the fatal misunderstanding of Oryx and the Hive, and why I believe Oryx was not selected as a disciple, but merely a tool the Witness used. He wasn’t worthy of the witness’s true lesson of irrelevance, in fact if anything Oryx thought the opposite, that he should become the most important, the only, thing in the universe.
he created the idea of the sword logic it does not apply to him
@@Moobeus Throne Worlds aren’t exclusive to Sword Logic. They’re exclusive to Gods, or those of some divinity. He doesn’t have one because he thinks he’s above Sword Logic. Rhulk doesn’t have one because he thinks he’s above DIVINITY.
@@darthsonic4135 every throne world we know is achieved through the sword logic. Even Mara’s is as a result of the paracausal energy of guardians/riven being tithed to it. You can’t just be a god and have a throne world, you have to use the sword logic.
The witness doesn't obey the sword logic
One thing I noticed when I was playing through shadowkeep again was that, at the end, when you go into the lunar pyramid. The relic you recover has a design to it that is somewhat similar to the containers we have recovered.
One thing that Drifter mentions as being in the reliquaries is "a knot of old hair," and for some reason, that got me thinking.
It's definitely far from anything concrete, but do any other races have hair besides Humans? Fallen and Hive have more of an exoskeleton, Vex obviously don't, and Cabal, while usually armored, don't appear to have any from the times we see their skin.
This got me further thinking: what if Nezarec was the Human disciple? Obviously it's not a solid theory yet, but it's interesting to consider. Calus being selected basically disproved the idea that you have to be the last of your kind.
Going into speculation: I think it would be interesting if the reason he's dead and his Pyramid empty is because Nezarec died of old age, something the Witness did not expect, considering how it seems most other races are biologically immortal. This could tie into why It was scouting Clovis for disciplehood, because It was waiting for a human that would be able to escape that one weakness.
The Krill had a lifespan of 10 years before getting the darkness powers from the worms. Why would Nezarec die of old age?
I mean, Fallen do have hair. The dregs have it cut into a Mohawk, and as the one guy said the hive originally had a 10 year lifespan(though it’s more like 8 year average, as the osmium king was 10 and considered older than he should be)
@@littlesunshine9218 apples and oranges. Maybe the Krill are 'more compatible' than humans.
@@thomasfrye6335 Then could Nezarec be an Eliksni? The Myth of a treasure that could ensure their saftey and glory after the Traveler fled Riss, would perpetuate a state of violence, and would also fit the theme of a cursed Pirate Treasure that drives those who seek it to violence and grief. It is mentioned that there was a part of the Eliksni population that stayed on Ris, so as it was consumed by darkness, it wouldn't be suprising (to me) if one Eliksni was selected from those who remained to give the Eliksni something to pursue *besides* the Traveler. Even if it was just smoke and mirrors, his "death" may very well have been why it kept them from the Traveler for so long, stopping them from interfering with the Traveler, or telling of the Darknesses intentions, cause that could cause humanity to give a false positive.
Tbf people mentioning the krill only living to 10 forget that They had the worm gods on the planet as a way to extend the krill’s life and it appears a biological compatablity with them. Better than the eliksni at least which is proven by the scorn experiments mostly failing
Drifter discovering that the artifacts are unreleased pringles flavors was the biggest twist bungo has ever put in a game ever
I’ve been reading a lot of the old lore released during Forsaken, and I’ve seen several stories that I don’t believe ever had a follow up. For example, Cyrell the Ghost Hunter. I’m not sure if he is a reference to something from another franchise, but his story in particular stood out to me as something I’d like to see mentioned again. Did he ever find his answer? What was his question? Is his story one still ongoing or has it reached an unfortunate end?
Are there any other mentions of him in the lore? Are there any other unconcluded and forgotten stories?
When picking up your catalyst for Delicate Tomb from Banshee, the text pop up says something about Banshee "having a bad feeling about making the weapon more powerful"
Im on board with the Nezarec train, however i believe that he would work with us if we were to bring him back. I believe that the Witness is seeking them to destroy them, not to bring them together. The delicate tomb’s intrinsic is called “traitor’s vessel” perhaps inferring that Nezarec betrayed the witness. The blurb for the delicate tomb utilizes the “us” pronoun in a similar fashion to the Witness as well, perhaps telling us that the Witness is disgusted by what is contained inside the jars. We also have to look to the idea that perhaps Nezarec worked alongside Savathun to prevent the collapse, if Savathuns worm is to be believed to tell the truth.
I speculate that Nezarec betrayed the Witness not in favor of the light, but not to betray the dark. In the nezarec’s sin exotic armor it doesnt say specifically that he is aligned to specifically the dark or the light, but instead to dusk, so maybe he sees it as fighting against the Darkness to prevent light from being supressed entirely, but not for the Light, but to achieve balance instead.
We also have to assume that the Witness is not the Darkness itself, but rather a counter equivalent to the guardians, If the Darkness’ logic is to be pushed to the final shape, and if savathun is to be believed that the final shape is nothing, should it be possible that that is also the true form of the darkness? Nothing? If the darkness wishes to achieve the simplest, strongest, form, then what form is simpler than nothing at all? But the Witness has a form, it isnt a blob or air or a gaseous cloud or something, its just a humanoid, so maybe the witness isnt even the Darkness itself.
Back to the Nezerec argument, so if the Witness isnt the darkness, then that should give him justification to kill him, for he is more powerful than the light, and Nezarecs betrayal did predate the guardians, so it could be that he sought to destroy the witness to create balance instead of empowering the light, but also not having the light be supressed by the darkness.
Im just going to leave it at that but i feel like theres so much more.
This is a good post
From the sounds of this, Nezarec is going to be the Grey Jedi. Dope.
Drifter really said "damn bitch, you live like this?" To Eris, and I am even more here for the two of them being a pair than ever before. They're such a good duo. This season has surprised me with so much MoonRat content
I am seriously excited to see where pieces connect. It's turning up to be my favorite season so far
(I unfortunately have been spoiled and will respectly not say anything)
We all know we are gathering the pieces of randal. Once we get all 6 parts, he will come back to life and help us against the witness and the darkness
Lets assemble Nezarec like a Transformer real quick
No like a bionicle.
Nah, Gaogaigar
Well a combiner yes but not a regular transformer
Drifter and Eris have such great chemistry together I swear, if they don't end up together by the end of Final Shape, I'll riot.
never really noticed the ellipse symbols on delicate tomb exotic! interesting
hey man. regardless if I hear about a small bit here or there. I will ALWAYS come to your channel for lore. you put it all together the best way possible and I will continue supporting your channel anytime you release a video
I am suddenly reminded of a scene in Akira (The anime version) where Tetsuo finds the remaining pieces of the Akira in the underground lab that unearths. Then BOOM, when Tetsuo's power has reached the peek of its uncontrollable wrath the specimen jars shatter and Akira is reborn.
So I guess the question is: Who or what are we about to bring back into existence?
:EDIT: Or who, if that's the way the narrative unfolds, was powerful enough to defeat, vivisect, and store with great care (Shielding the Darkness within) this potential Disciple's various parts?
Just started the video. Just wanna say that this season has really drawn me back into Destiny. I'm loving ketchcrash and the story so far, as a player since destiny day 1, I'm glad theres something making me play every day again
Perhaps It’s what’s left of Nezarec? I guess we will find out
Thank you for piecing this together in this way. Big respects for gathering what is available in the game and being a place I can trust not to involving data mined content.
I think the style of delicate tomb would be the style of nezarec's pirámid or the relics because the relics share colors like for example a normal pirámid is not the same as rhulk's pyramid
there once was an eliksni called taniks who was baron of his house who had fame, power, and wealth beyond your wildest dreams but before the guardians killed him (again) these where his final words "my fortune is your for the taking but you'll have to fine it first i left everything i own in ONE PIECE"
Nezerec is being setup for after The Final Shape as part of one of the new factions that we are seeing. I'm not sure if that means they will be with Darkness or not. He could be a temporary ally, or they could be an enemy that survives the death of The Witness.
@@BroadFame Pretty sure Bungie said awhile ago that we wouldn't be abandoning Sol.
I can see him being setup as a disciple to the witness in the shadows until he sees the witness, get rekt and decides to branch away
@@BroadFame please read before commenting. AFTER The Final Shape. Not setup for The Final Shape.
It doesn't at all mean all new enemies. Bungie isn't dumping the entire game or any of the races. They aren't dumping the majority of the main characters even. Even if we leave Sol enemies persist. They aren't going to suddenly have Light and Darkness powers removed from the game. They'll still be Light and Dark. It just won't be the focused as the saga as the current Traveller/Witness story.
Basically, everything you have said is beyond stupid.
@@thechunkmaster8794 IKR?
And even if we did abandon Sol we aren't dumping Light and Dark entirely. They aren't just stripping us of our power. The same enemies will still exist. They aren't just recreating all new characters.
Now is the time we are seeing factions develop for after The Final Shape. Pieces are in motion to setup what is next.
@@Fatikis42 Destiny 2: Beyond Stupid
The nezarec robe ornament reaction has that gold wavy reaction that we see in rhulks pyramid
I get the implication that possessing, or perhaps consuming, one of these organic Darkness-radiating pieces would imbue a person with great power (ala Yuji Itadori with Sukuna's fingers), but for what purpose does The Witness want them? Presumably they're already the pinnacle of Darkness power, so it's likely not for self exaltation. Maybe it's to enhance new Disciples like Calus?
One thing to note about Delicate Tomb is the "Traitor's Vessel" exotic perk, which implies that this "tomb" belongs to........well, a traitor. If it really is Nezarec speaking in the loretab, then it's likely that he was the part of some form of betrayal. Whether he was the traitor or the betrayed is still up in the air, but when an Exotic Perk is named in such a way it can sometimes pertain to an individual. For example, Duality's perk "On Black Wings" likely refers to Crow who was its original wielder when he worked for Spider, and the Bombardiers' exotic perk "parting gift" could be in reference to Tallulah Fairwind tossing her bow to Caliban 8 before being consumed by an Ahamkara. So, it's possible that Nezarec could've been the "traitor" in this situation, and had a "vessel" prepared for him as a result. The quote "They think me contained, but I am instead diffused, as vapor upon the wind" could be Nezarec referring to the ones who placed him in his tomb.
There's not much more I can talk about without delving into leaks.
Tin foil o clock! I have not read any spoilers but I always thought it was nezerec although lately I’ve been thinking if it was Toland. It’s a bunch of body parts and Toland is “the shattered”. His body being literally shattered and spread into different containers because of the knowledge he held about the nature of the darkness or the witness.
The cutscene tells us its nezerec
Imagine my shock when Drifter said he opened up something he shouldn’t to see what is inside.
So they hold the flesh of Nezarec? as of being 33% through this video.
Super excited to see play out, the ramifications of us gathering the fragments
Even tho It's been spoiled I am excited to see your coverage of it when the seasonal story gets to it.
What's been spoiled?
@@stevemarch1015 what's exactly in the jars and what happens with them.
@@danielleighton4161 is it different than what is said in the datamined cutscene
@@stevemarch1015 I haven't watched the cutscene but I've seem the leaks from before the season came out for the plot of the story.
@@danielleighton4161 the cutscene talks about eliksni finding nezareca body and making artifacts out of his body
After this week when we put the relic in helm. The insight by Eido had me think of what happened with the Necrotic grips, in both cases there were infighting over dead flesh with darkness power inside the flesh.
I hope when it's opened we take safety protocols and open it.
Something interesting i wanted to bring up. In Egyptian Mythology when Set the god of Evil betrays his brother Osiris, Set cuts him up into multiple pieces and scatters his body parts all across Egypt. The reason for this is because (at least to the Egyptians) a god can not die but can at least be bound and made inactive.
I wonder if something similar is happening here. And if it is i also wonder if it will end the same.
At the end of the story Isis is able to find all of Osiris's parts except his heart. In a last ditch effort she brings him back to life but since he was not whole Osiris was bound to the Underworld as he was now undead.
Holy shit
Everyone thinks it's Nezarec, but this actually makes a ton of sense.
This is interesting considering that in the Martian missives lorebook (which is admittedly a misinformation campaign by savathun), caiatl says that her scouts found osiris' remains on nessus "vivisected almost beyond recognition"
It wasn’t his heart that was missing but his male member. They made a replacement out of wood.
I’m just really excited about the old lore threads either wrapping up or pushing forward and all the new threads leading up to February. These last couple seasons have really been setting the proverbial chessboard for utter chaos to ensue both in lore and game.
Honestly beware as best as you can...I spoiled myself and watched the Spoiler that is out there thinking it was something we'd unlock at the end of this week's activities. Boy was I mistaken 😭. Saw more than I expected so eyes up Guardians if you don't want to be like me
I was casually scrolling my feed one day when I come across these datamined leaked cutscenes. I was like, "damn, this is so cool and well animated it looks just like a real one." Then I realized.
What if the relics are one part of one being. Like all of them make Nezarec, Steel Ball Run style
I would suggest some other direction to look into: the loretab of Cry Mutiny. It tells of an Eliksni that has encountered the Witness during what seems like the Long Drift.
I woder if that's her body parts.
Hold on, there are various body parts of a Saint scattered around that promise great power? Sounds like a jojo reference to me
Gold Pyramid Run
bro im not going to lie your the best one i know to catch up on destiny lore and anything
Something that genuinely confuses me & I've made the joke no wonder Nezerec disowned the Witness!
The Exotic Helmet = Void, you need to use Void Weapons & Abilities to fully benefit from it.
Nezerecs Glaive: a gift from the Witness is ARC!
The Delicate Tomb = ARC!
Perhaps it was Arc that was used to defeat Nezerec & the Glaive started it? Then Delicate Tomb being Arc potentially holding a piece of Nezerec inside, the Arc energy keeping him captive?
Anything that gives The Drifter pause is VERY DANGEROUS!
Frankenstein’s Taniks?
dont think so lot of folks are theorzigin these parts are nezarecs body
Byf, you probably already know but the delicate tomb also has the moving squares (on the barrels of the VotD weapons) inside the gun, you can see them turning while reloading the weapon as well if you slow the speed down
NEZAREC NEZAREC NEZAREC NEZAREC NEZAREC NEZAREC NEZAREC
The dialogue on Delicate Tomb reminds me of how Rhulk speaks in such a broken, unnatural way, using a lot of poetic words and flow but also being short with its sentences and leaving an open conclusion on what it's referring to.
Nezarec is to Riis as Rhulk is to Lubre. I bet you Eramis is searching for the remains of the disciple who brought about the whirlwind.
I love not commenting spoilers on your vids Byf, been doing it for years 😉
if nezerac is in these perhaps he betrayed the witness he could’ve been a rlly strong enemy and given what we know about the darkness and how the witness does not control it so to speak but uses it i think nezerac is a true wielder of darkness like how we have mastered the light and maybe those creatures drifter interacted with where the same species as him darkness could be a natural thing to them and we’ve seen before that the darkness itself isn’t inherently evil. this could also link to how it’s incredibly hard to kill these creatures if they even can die and would make sense for the witness to have to seperate a being of such power until he can find a way to destroy them completely again just a theory
Thumbs up if you knew it on day-one because of that damn datamined cutscene in recommendations
Well, I'm early...
It could be that instead of Nezarec's perspective, it's the Witness's perspective of Nezarec speaking in the lore tab.
Edit: Forgot to mention that it sounds like the Witness describes Nezarec's protrayal of itself and/or its ideals.
First comment!
It can't be a coincidence that the seasonal exotic describes becoming whole again and describing pieces being brought together to form a larger whole, and we're quite literally bringing pieces of what seems to be a larger being back together.
Low key if you’re throwing a fit about getting spoilers on the internet you are being a child. If you don’t want spoilers, consume the content. If you cant consume the content be an adult, accept your situation and dont expect the entire world to wait for you. Or even MAYBE don’t go to a bear cave and be angry when there is a bear in it.
I'm beyond excited for where this part of the story is going with ramping up the Nezarec hype and I am very much looking forward to seeing this space-lich once their remains are all brought together.
Love the lines, "I love to hear you talk!". Eris "I like to hear your silence"
Delicate Tomb's lore tab gives me the vibe that the relics dont even need to be combined, they just have to be near each other and Nezerac will resurrect
The gambit coin “OOHHH” in the thumbnail 🤣
Eido : These relics are using darkness to shield something inside… I should not open it until I am certain of the outcome
Drifter : aww hell yeah these are like kinder eggs never know what toe you’re gonna get
I believe we may be heading in the direction of Nezarec coming back in the style of a Lich. Reliquaries and rotting flesh, making me think back to DnD Lichdom...
Looking forward to what comes in the next few weeks!
Hey byf I appreciate the hard work you put into your lore videos keep up the great work. Don’t worry about the people spoiling lore content I can only speak for myself I only watch your lore videos and I normally wait for your videos to pop up anyway.
Apart from the lore, I must show appreciation for Eris's character. Just an amazing voice !
You know a TV show of destiny would be freaking awesome.
Reliquaries also relate to how the Ancient Egyptians would take each organ part and place it into its own jar. I had no idea about the saints bit, which was cool to learn. I had a theory this season while inspired by piracy, is heavily leaning into Egyptian - Eurasian historical themes Destiny has too.
I'm a little rusty on my Ancient Egypt, but each organ was weighed at the time of judgement (the scales). There's a slight theme this season in relation to the concept of judgement, which is what immediately set off the thought back to the Egyptian Afterlife and why that relates so much to who might be in the jars.
Little pet theory of mine, but I wonder if due to human ancient pyramids in deep human past that Nezerac or our species were the chosen of Darkness and that relationship didn't pan because Humanity is capable of using light and dark.
And here I thought we were collecting the Holy Hand Grenades of Antioch.
Drifter and Eris are definitely hooking up.
Wow I can’t believe that destiny 2: season of plunder is actually one big jojo reference
A certain AWOL-giant-moth-lady that may be connected to the middle paragraph of Delicate Tomb learned necromancy from Nokris.
got my headcanon for delicate tomb from a guy on reddit, put together a solid string of lore pointing to delicate tomb being alakhul light blade ascended into a weapon
ahhh i remember when people swore Nezarec was a One off mention, myth among the lore, they built the mystery of Nezarec up nicely! The brightest light and darkest hour and he shall rise again!
And so shall we
what i just renoticed was that there are fallen ships on the moon like the one you get ralniks hatched for the essence of jealousy in a room that looks exactly like the servitor room of the ketchcrash missions and there are even the rest of the rooms in there. so we have even more locations of the old crews ships and they are on the moon
The Seasonal exotic combo'd with the reliquaries, the theory about Nezarec, the various tomb iconography, and the symbol on the exotics handle/handguard thingie invoking trials of osiris with that eye icon, im thinking it's alluding to ancient egypt, funeral burying practices, etc. Considering how colourful the old tombs tend to be irl the colour choices for the exotic and its reed like patterns also fall in line owo
Damn adding the delicate tomb lore tab in it really does sound like we are unwittingly resurrecting a powerful being. The once again becoming sounds like some type of paracausal plan coming to fruition. Something like Mara did with her "sacrifice" at saturn or the hive sisters dying to empower oryx only to return with the proper rituals.
Thanks for not spoiling, Byf.
So given what we have seen so far, i think it is safe to say that given we are basically hunting their version of a saint this we have now officially began a bizzare adventure involving some steel balls
How dare you
D4C!
Eris and Drifter's spicy talk is fantastic.
I don't see that coming. When the drifter talks to eris I was thinking about arrancara bones, but this stuff about the thumbs it's AWESOME
I'm so glad you made this video as I was naturally curious to hear your perspective on the contents of The Relics that Eramis is trying to obtain. Much like you, I believe that Nezarec's remains are what in the Relics or relicories as Eris more appropriately calls them and the evidence that supports this theory is truly remarkable, definitely pointing in that direction.😳👍🏼 Speaking of Eramis, as well as Mithrax and The Spider, I don't think they've read that Passage from Of Hated Nezarec from the lore tab of Nezarec's Sin cuz if they did, especially Eramis and Mithrax, they would've stumbled on this part of it that's recently come to mind:
"...Fear not. All He offers is not as dark as it may seem. For Nezarec is no demon, but a fiend, arch and vile in ways unknown. He is a path and a way, one of many. And his sin-so wicked, so divine-is that he will never cower when dusk does fall, but stand vigilant as old stars die and new Light blinks its first upon this fêted eternity."
I remember you theorizing way back about what could Nezerac's actually sin be and I think now with these Relicories in play, I think his sin was betraying The Witness. Think about it for sec. Why else would he be dead? This Passage from Of Hated Nezarec is a piece of Pre-Golden Age writing, meaning BEFORE The Traveler arrived in our system, which means this was written waayy before the creation of Guardians. And I don't think it could of been any of the other alien races that The Traveler left behind. Soo, then what could of killed Nezerac? I think it was The Witness or Rhulk at the command of It. Since it's been a long time after his death, maybe The Witness thinks that Nezarec learned his lesson of betraying it, but much like us with people we dislike, I think Nezarec still may have a grudge against The Witness. If this is true and he is to be resurrected by Eramis, then there's a good chance that he might be on our side, which would great for us going forward into Lightfall and The Final Shape, but this is just speculation, so I could be completely wrong on some things.🤔😁👍🏼
Reminds me of the K1 artifact and the Unknown Artifact at the end of the Shadowkeep campaign!