Destiny 2 Lore - What Root of Nightmares tells us about the 4th Tomb of Nezarec & The Drifter...
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- Опубліковано 27 бер 2023
- Destiny 2's Lore and Story from the Root of Nightmares Raid tells us about the 4th Tomb of Nezarec and the Drifter's run in with an Acolyte of Nezarec. This moment proceeded him recovering one of the relics that we would discover in the Season of the Plunder, but it also gives us an insight into Nezarec's power and the determination of his cult followers.
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I wonder if Nezarec at this point is something rather than someone, a sort of paracausal boogyman that exist across space and time a nightmare if you will.
Would be incredible if that is true. So much build up to Nez was slightly disappointing to end with "the traveller woke him up and we slapped him immediately"
The Oogie Boogie of the Destiny-verse?
I was hoping they would take inspiration from Mortarian of WH40k, but alas :(
So, Nezarec is an eldritch lovecraftian entity?
"Does it exist in the world? Or in the mind?"
That was my theory before roots came out. I thought there must have been more paracousal beings like the traveller or the witness, but with different functions. In the unveiling lore book the witness discribes the universe before its existence as mathematics following the purpose of their formula. He and the traveller were just two of this formulas, but they weren't all of them. There must have been multiple paracousal formulas for different aspects of light and darkness. Like wishes or dreams/nightmares. When the gardener created the universe, all this formulas began to come to life and I thought Nezarec is the formula for nightmares.
I would love if they do a Whisper of the Worm style mission with Nezarec. If he loves pain and death so much, what better way to grow powerful than to take the Xol route and turn yourself into a gun.
isn’t that the helmet?
@@istvanissovits3990 no, the helmet is just an interpretation of what he would’ve looked like. whoever made it got the horns kinda right tho
Since he still has an influence on people after death, that gun would be more of a torture device than anything else
Nezarec
Literally the Delicate Tomb exotic
Always a fun time when the Drifter is involved.
What makes Drifter so good, to me, is how much fun he has doing this crazy stuff that he doesn't even want to be a part of. Like everything about him screams that he should be far more wearier than even Zavala, but he's doing his damnedest to have a hell of time.
He's like a lone-wolf version of Capt. Jack Sparrow
WELL, maybe not when you have to play a certain in game activity related to him
I’ve never seen this mans ghost
I love that the explanation for the multiple tombs of Nezarec is either that he died and was buried multiple times, or he was killed and they hated him so much they split his body up into different parts and buried them in different places. Hell, its probably both.
No one reply to the bot just report and move on
The Tombs of Nezarec were made by the Fallen to contain the relics after they became too much of a problem for them.
You clearly don't watch anime.
The William Wallace approach
Cutting up and scattering the remains is a pretty popular way to deal with immortal beings I suppose
I love the Drifter. He is probably my favorite character in Destiney since Cayde-6.
Eris and him seem to be the most interesting and even seem to make a good couple 😂
@@majesticmajestic7058 I ship Moondust and Rat.
Him and Mithrax have been my top 2 since Cayde died
Even though he’s not the hunter vanguard I like to pretend that he is, everything about him just screams Hunter and he’s just a swell guy
@@LaLloronaVThe is a hunter in lore but technically speaking there is no hunter vanguard unless you take the old lore about how whoever kills the hunter vanguard become the new one in which case technically the crow is
I’ve got a theory: since one of the relics was found in the fourth tomb, it could stand to reason that this was true of the other tombs as well. Eido did say that the tombs were “well known” after all. Since there were 8 relics recovered in Plunder I think that there were eight tombs of Nezarec, all of which had their relics taken from them at one point or another.
Also, I wonder how the acolytes will react when they learn that we killed their god Nezarec, and that the affects of his relics are really because of the witch who first killed him.
The more i hear about Nez the more i believe it possible for Osiris to be a human incubator. I find it hard to believe that drinkin the nezcafe wouldnt have any bad side effects. #nezziethechestburster
Bungie likes to use mythology and tweak and twist, stories and lore. What's the Egyptian story of Osiris? Symbolism. Due to his story, Osiris was a symbol of life and death, associated with resurrection and the afterlife in Egyptian mythology. Not only did Osiris rule the afterlife, he also had the power to grant life. Furious, Seth cut Osiris's body into fourteen pieces. To make sure that the body was never found again, he hurled the pieces all over Egypt.
I do belive that their writing is degrading tho, so..
@@bannedmann4469 I guess Witch Queen is garage
@@bannedmann4469cap
I don’t think any side effects would have anything to do with nezarec himself. All Mithrax did was take the relic’s emanating darkness energy and, as saint put it, “turned it into a more agreeable state”. If he ate the body parts directly then I could speculate differently but so far the relics served a convenient source of very condensed darkness energy that could be manipulated.
I don't think the Drifter has lied about any of his 'gets'. I think eventually we will get to go to all the places he has visited. He is without a doubt the most travelled and most interesting NPC and vendor we have
That would be interesting for sure. I also like that one of his gets is just cookies that contain void energy, hence null cookies. Doesn’t sound very tasty
@@LegiamasC-OnTwitta but shit if you gotta survive stick with him. He maybe a shit cook, but at least he knows what will and will not kill him if he eats it for some reason.
@@tuttuti123 he probably did a lot of testing when the time called for it, probably just gets his ghost on standby and gets to munchin lol
@@LegiamasC-OnTwitta it's interesting how his ghost can still function as a ghost despite being silenced or something, got some vex fuckery happened to it. That, or man just got superuser access to his ghost.
@@tuttuti123 He's a master engineer, and probably one of the oldest guardians we know, he probably just found a mute setting or he told it to be quiet.
Byf is the reason I still play destiny. Everytime I stop playing for months, it's a byf video that gets me interested again. I hope one day bungie memorializes the lore masters in game because without byf and the others I'd bet a good chunk of current players wouldn't exist.
Right, I quit after collecting all the exotics in D1 and Byf reading the books of sorrow, brought me back.
Someone didn't play Witch Queen
@@majesticmajestic7058 WQ is trash?
@@lazyvoid7107 yeah I took a break for years haven't played since the red war it was byf that just got me to buy all the dlc lmao. Out of all the campaigns in game rn witch queen is my favorite
Idk what I'm looking forward to most, Nezarec possibly coming back or Savathûn coming back. Big possibilities either way, just hope Bungie don't fuck it up
I don't mind savathun coming back. Maybe it's part of her plan that if she was somehow resurrected back, that means that we actually got further than she initially thought and we actually survived long enough for us to warrant her coming back and asking her shitton of question. Savathun got a lot to say, and we got a lot of questions now than ever.
I would love to see both come back. Would open up so many opportunities for more story unveiling and possibly some lovely banter between the two.
I wonder what the Lucent hives reaction to the traveler dying is?
Shit I forgot about them, I hope they’re dealing with this traveler situation well lol
@@robotafflicition The old ways die hard. I'm sure they'll try to turn it inside out on the next Inversion Day.
@@BiZkWiK87 Do they celebrate inversion day? I kinda always thought that was an Oryx-descended Hive holiday only... Though now that I think about it, considering Savathun made a whole temple to Oryx, her Hive celebrating his greatest accomplishment isn't that weird.
@@fjnordthedwarf4004 I'm mainly spit-balling. But I bet it's not outside the realm of possibility.
@@fjnordthedwarf4004 I mean that makes sense, but it seems like a bit of a troll considering the chosen guardian of the temple was aluk-hul, which makes me doubt if she seriously intended to foster worship with basically the antichrist of Oryx being there all the time
Nezarec feels much more like cosmic being separate from light and dark. But it just so happens to choose to be a deciple. His psychic abilities and "hobby" feel more eldritch than anything.
I could see Nezarec being one of the Old Ones from the Lovecraftian mythos
It seems Nezarec is really a god in the literal sense to me - he creates the vessels he inhabits, but his soul is not totally bound to them, hence why he can speak to you after he has been killed
Tbh it was a damn shame that we didn't get a post quest line with the drifter and eris after we killed nez
Why am I getting the feeling Nezarec isn't truely dead. It seems like each time he dies he gets bulkier, as a "God of Pain" wouldn't killing him just give him cause to get stronger each death (better then Taniks)? And if that's the case could The Witness also bring back Nezarec and Rhulk to give them a Zenkai boost?
*cough*cough* Doomsday
He did die, but he doesn’t stay dead. I mean, what is death to paracausal beings anyways? It’s not like it was a final death.
He's not dead. Because he feeds on pain and fear, he is practically invulnerable. As long as pain or fear exists, he will live on.
@@trevorjarvis3846 I've missed a few videos, so I missed that part
Taniks, the Disciple has competition, it seems
It seems like nezarec is basically a non corporeal nightmare entity that dies, goes into nightmare mode and then gets a body somehow over and over again. He has tombs across the universe since every body he has has to die eventually
what
why does his body have to die eventually? Disciple hood probably means immortality. so his body is immortal
IMO someone kept killing his bodies
@@SUPERDESERTOPIUM idk, I mean it’s all interpretations of him but each time we see or hear of nezarec before actually facing him, the look varies. Like in the season of the plunder he is depicted looking very human in the tomb, on the helmet the horns are much rounder, and the eliksni see him as a shapeshifting nightmare animal
The 4th Tomb of Nezarec would be a pretty dope dungeon, a sort of continuation to really drive home the fact that Nezarec isn’t dead after the events of Root of Nightmares.
Hey Byf, do you think there’s something to say about Nessa’s choice of attire? The thing that stands out to me is the way it’s described as “robe like”. If it isn’t exactly a robe, could it be similar to what we’ve seen on the veiled statues? Just a crazy thought. Also, no idea if you’ll see this but it’s worth the shot.
P.S. Qugu lore book from the raid? Could Nezarec be a Qugu? Maybe the mentioned sibling in it? I’ll stop blathering now.
I need more Byf's Drifter impersonation!
Thank you as always Lore Daddy!
I love the idea of meeting Nessa, and us having an uncomfortable conversation about Nezarec.
Nessa: So, you are the fabled Guardian everyone talks about.
Us: Yes, and who are you?
Nessa: I am Nessa, Acolyte of Nezarec.
Us: Oh! Nezarec! I've met them!
Nessa: You did? But they're dead...
Us: Yeah I know, I killed them.
Nessa: What? But you were only Risen like, 8 years ago. I've been searching for the remains since the Dark Age!
Us: Yeah, the Traveler Hyperbeam'd the Witness' ship and started the resurrection process, I and a couple of my buddies went in, finished it, and killed Nezarec.
Nessa: You resurrected Nezarec, the God I believe with my whole heart in, just to kill them!?
Us: Yeah... they were giving off bad vibes over on Neptune.
Nessa:... I might be in a bit over my head here, aren't I.
Us: Yeah, Nezzy's like, the 5th Disciple we've killed of the Witness.
Nessa: 5TH!?
Technically we’ve only killed three disciples so far. Rhulk, Calus, and Nezarec. We’re not really sure who any of the other Disciples are, but we ARE, however, made known of one in “The Cave” lore entry for RoN.
And no, Eramis is not a disciple, not even close. She’s moreso a piggybacker
@@twelved4983 he’s probably counting oryx and savathun even though they aren’t disciples lmao
Idk why I love this dialogue 😂
@@MumboJumboZXC I am referring to Oryx and Savathûn. They aren't explicitly Disciples, but they are honorary ones imo.
Byf: Here's what Drifter had to say:
Drifter: bomBOMMM-ba-ba-ba-bomBOMMMM
This NEVER gets old 😂😂😂😂
I really hope Drifter gets involved again in a future season.
For a brief moment I had thought that when you said the "Drifter had this to say" and it cut to him singing the tune I thought that was going to be it and I had a chuckle.
Byf I reminded myself when you told about the whispers of Nezarec on Neomuna when he mentioning "lttle ones" which you interpreted as the vex but I remebered Rhulk calling us guardians "little ones" in one of the many random voice lines you hear during the final encounter. Destiny Lore Vault has that recorded (of course). Idk if that changes anything but I liked to point that out.
This makes total sense why eramis is collecting the parts. It’s so the witnesses could reassemble nez.
While that theory is awesome....we used the pieces we took from eramis to bring Osiris back to consciousness.
So that kind amakes it harder to believe...but...what if by using them on osiris....we tied nezarec to him, that as long as he's alive..nezarec exists in this reality
@@zhikari3231 It’s not really a theory though. It’s latex out in front of us. In plunder eramis is collecting the parts of nez for the witness but we take them first causing the witness to punish eramis by converting one of her people into scorn. We didnt know the witness had nez’s head until the raid so it makes sense why the witness sent eramis to collect the body parts now.
Hey Byf! I wish you knew how much you've been a comfort to my life over the years. I really mean it.
We all need to keep in mind the Driver does have tyes to the 9 and does do their bidding from time to time. Before this is all said and done I'm almost sure the 9 will have a part to play.
In the shin malphur lore drifter told him he found the relic in a far planet cold enough to snuff your light, so why guessing earth, mars or the shore? It clearly references the lore card about drifter's team dying in a cold planet to some alien paracausal totem. And if i recall correctly it was an exosolar planet, but dont quote me on that
Glad to hear Shin again
I have a feeling they’ve kept gambit around all this time is because the drifter is mad important to the story long term wise
Could be possible that the tombs of Nezarec are places of worship, given that there is an altar in the fourth and that it houses a relic which the acolytes find pretty valuable.
Any lore involving the Drifter I sit down with my snacks and LISTEN. Bro is too cool.
Recently ive been watching all the old lore videos about Drifter, good to see a more recent one.
I'd love if they gave us a season based around the Dredgens
“Season of Yor”
How’s that sound?
@Caleb Smith I like it, corrupted guardians could be an enemy we could fight
They're hardly relevant at this point, that would just be a waste of a season in a year where the seasons are very important
@@momoosa7408 I feel like making a.i guardians might be a bit of a stretch for a season. Maybe use the lucent hive and make a splinter group of dredgens
When we are finished with final shape there is space for that, cleaning up our system, going after rouge guardians before finally leaving Sol as humanity supposed to
Man drifter does sound like he is more of an adventurer, with a mysterious background similar to xur.
Drifter is my favorite character, any lore on him is appreciated!
Hello Sir Byf o7 First of all, I LOVE your vids. Been a huge fan ever since and I believe my first vid of you I watched was the story of destiny up to shadowkeep. I want to mention, that I overheard some guys of my fireteam who were in a conversation about Root of Nightmares and the Savathun Mission: 2 truths 1 lie. Savathun stated in one Mission: Soon youll be able to move/shift planets around. They connected it to the Macrocosm encounter which blew my mind. Also I replayed the Legacy of Shadowkeep and it gave a new insight for me, knowing my ghost was controlled by the witness and knowing of the witness motives and plans felt totally new. Keep up your AWESOME work. Much love.
Nezerak is the nightmare aka tormenting. Perhaps he dies at any world he is tormenting and gathers power till it brings him back. Like a sacrifice to the Darkness, this may also make it harder to stop him. I just wonder why Nezerak is not fallen. It looks like the Witness makes a Discipline for each rase he's destroying.
love byf i need a lifetime of these
Byf doing the Drifter voice made my day XD
So glad they revisited the whole 4th tomb of Nezarec thing
I got a couple thoughts about this. First, Eris probably taught Mythrax how to make the Nez tea which was over my head on the season. I'm like how did he know how to make that? And second,I think there were 7 tombs because Bungie, and one relic never had a second tomb because it was cast off into space I think.
Oh and Nessa is for sure named after Nezarec
Byf uploaded, its story time!!
I have a question. We saw in the Plunder cutscene that Nezarec got chopped up by Fallen long ago, after Mithrax’s mom found his corpse.
Since the tombs seem to be of Fallen origin, isn’t it possible that they were constructed after Nezarec was defiled? Like they chopped him up, wore the pieces/gained power from them, and then made tombs to worship the guy who gave them their power?
Drifter is the best character in D2. The best way to exist.
Tankis, Nezarec... Are they truly gone?! Who knows!
Whoever called you Lore Daddy was right on the money ❤
From that intro it just hit me, in a way, Kelograth now has a buddy for someone who has died and came back and died again now lol
Perfect timing with the master mode release ;)
are you going to do a full video like what you done with origins to shadow keep? that is amazing . You're destiny movies are great
I’d love to know what Nezarec was like before the Witness found him. A history in him like the one we got for Rhulk would be fantastic. Although, I think the devs want to keep him a little more mysterious so he still seems like some kind of demon.
My fear is that in game - I doubt the devs would do this - the tombs of Nezarec correspond to campaigns he’s taken on on behalf of the Witness. His influence does seem more insidious once he’s “dead” after all and none of the lore tabs we’ve been reading so far have indicated that he’s been “alive” for any of them.
…wait, maybe he’s never been alive at all? Maybe he’s a manifestation of the worst memories held by the darkness itself? The psion ritual we were reading about recently were that woman’s lover was offered to Nezarec because “he was powerful” could be them offering up a vessel for Nezarec to inhabit.
Nezarec infiltrates, dies, and remains around psychically so he’s untouchable? Sounds like a thing a Disciple would do.
(Haven't watched the video jet) I expect a Nezarec season about the acolytes and drifter. Drifter seems to know a lot more about Nazarec than He let's on and I would absolutly love a new drifter-centric season. He is one of my favorite characters.
I will only accept this if I get my spare rations back, and if the drifter sings more theme music poorly
I just want to broach the subject of Ulan Tan for a second. With the themes of light and dark having some kind crossing or meeting and the raid armor looking a lot like the markings on Ulan Tan’s ship, should we not be taking another look into his philosophy. He got things more right than just about anybody it seems.
Very quick thing to think about, what of the witness kept his head in that thing in the raid and it just gave him a tormentor body, it makes sense if his paracostal conscience would still more or less reside in his central nervous system, incubating him with a new body to wake and continue his work.
Definitely one of the more confusing lore readings but without a doubt one of the most needed.
Man, Taniks was THIS close to having a true challenger.
Hey Byf while i finishing up the lightfall story on my other character i noticed that the witness back look like the Greek symbol Delta that is used in mathematics to represent the change in a variable, and it is also used to represent the difference between two numbers. just a little thing i noticed.
Noticing a lot of Shrike gameplay recently Byf..
Guess this guy can return how he likes, like another boss I am thinking of.
My ears perked right up after hearing Shin's name. I don't know why but the story behind Shin, Dradgen, The Shadows, and Drifter has captivated me for a while and if I hadn't already had my Hunter set after Cayde, Shin would definitely be the guy I'd go with
Byf saying "rejoice" gave me unsettling Presage flashbacks
Video being 20:20 in length is neat in a satisfying way
I wish we would go into the Lunar pyramid more and delve deeper into Nezzy's tomb there.
Does anyone find odd the fact that Nezarec did not lose his memories or get a ghost after his resurrection from the Traveler?
He just kinda popped into the body that grew from his head I’m guessing. Since he’s been active while dead for a while lol
The drifter was CLEAERLY not at all surprised when it showed Misraakskell had a naughty backstory. Drifter is also good at keeping secrets. He treats Eido like an uncle would a neice. We know that Misraakskell collected pieces of nezarec. I vote the buyer was Misraakskell himself. Thoughts?
Drifter is arguably the coolest and most interesting character in the whole game and we get so little time to uncover things about him or hear from him. Wish he had a bigger place in the story.
Quick point: "exoplanets of sol" is an oxymoron, an exoplanet is any planet outside of our solar system. I'm assuming you meant just an planetoid in the outer reaches like the Oort Cloud or Kuiper Belt
the drifter is just such an interesting character
thank you lore daddy ❤
I really hope we meet shin malphur soon in a upcoming season.
My dream would be for keanu reaves to play him but that'll never happen...
Literally, rest in pieces, Nezarec
In light of everything involving Nezarec and Lightfall, has left me eith a burning question that I’ve delved deep into. Now hear me out, what if Void is actually a darkness power. Not gifted by the traveler, but wrested control of from Nez and the tormentors during the first collapse, wielded by lightbearers similarly to stasis. Destiny 1 had lots of flavor texts talking about how the use of Void was generally frowned upon, but eventually accepted, similar to stasis. Iron Lord Timur, a voidlock, used his void power to mind control enemies, the psions worshipped Nez and use a void power with their psychic abilities, the hive use primarily void light in their larger rituals, and so much more. Nezarec being a ‘commander of the void’, and all of our og vanguards prior to ikora being primarily arc and solar uses makes me beg the question, what if Strand isn’t darkness, but Void is. Would leave us with 2 light, 2 dark, and 1 paracausal subclass. Theres alot more, but i don’t want this to get too long. Just food for thought.
Taniks VS Nezarec = Unending combat
I love Drifter. The Tower may have not trusted him at first, but, he’s more or less a lawful neutral to me. The light sarcasm from Drifter when he relayed what we’d been told about Mithraks being a ruthless and cruel Captain long ago.. you can tell the voice actor has fun playing the charming rogue.
The idea that it is nessa makes a lot of sense but my first though was Erimis. Her father is mentioned at some point in the lore about the relics from what i remember and the long claws etc.
Also something im just thinking couldnt we get ashermear to use the vex net to predict where something like the tombs are or where other important living beings are that are non paracausal.
I feel like this isn’t just Bungie fleshing out Nezarec and his cult further. This may be foreshadowing to a future expansion in which Guardians and the Coaltion must travel to the Acendent Plane and somewhere beyond Sol, to destroy Nezarec completely. As well as spend a season killing off his cult until the very memory of him is torn asunder from reality and thought.
I think it is a better descriptor than they for nezarec because it’s a chimera. In any fantasy ever chimeras are made from other species and amalgamated together.
Time to put Nezarec and Taniks in an octagon and have them fight to the… uh… death.
It's also the FIRST mention of the Drifter in ALL of Lightfall lol.
I was kinda hoping he would cut the video after drifter sang his lil song and been like "oops wrong clip"
I read "drifter's" them saw a B and U and got very concerned for a second
After the recent raid bond you can't be too safe anymore
@MynameisByf I know it has nothing to do with this video. I noticed that when The Witness touches the traveler and has that vision. Near the end, you see the veins (roots) like from the tree. Only they appear to be in a human shape like it's a side view of a chest and a arm. Let me know if anyone else sees it
Byf!! Thank you for bringing me back to destiny. Bungie doesn’t help, you do!! Keep up the great work!
Nezerac: oh boy, I sure do love pain, suffering and chaos! I hope when I die I get turned into a weapon🥰🥰🥰
Mithrax’s mom: he doesn’t need his liver
Mithrax: I made tea
I love the whole idea behind Drifter. But honestly…I hope eventually we learn more about him. Like the season of the Drifter was good-but I still feel like we don’t know much.
Idk I just feel like he’s this big enigma and that Bungie is keeping him that way….just to have him be this mystery that’s ongoing.
Hey Byf has Zavala always had marks or tattoos on both sides of his neck? I only noticed them this week after the weekly quest step
I can confirm that he has. If you check old cutscenes you can see them.
@@FifthHorseman23 Thank you, I found it in the cutscene where he gets saved by crow from perma death by an assassin
I think if we end up having a season where the cult of nezzy boy are the enemies we will probably also see Arnor and other in lore only characters get a time to shine in game proper
So, Nezarec is a pretty big guy, the reliquaries were quite small, and all that was left for the Witness was his head; I’m inclined to believe that either some of his parts have been destroyed or lost, or there are many more tombs or places where Nezarec is scattered across.
Nazarec and Taniks having a death/resurrection competition. 🤷🏽♂️
I wouldnt be surprised if the buyer from Drifter's little adventure was Spider, seeing as they both have previous knowledge of the relics
Wonder if we’ll ever find out what type of guardian drifter is. Maybe he was risen so early he has different supers and doesn’t fall into any of the classes.
I can’t wait for bungie actually show shin. If there any ways to include him in a story.
I've been wondering ever since The drifter first showed up and forsaken.
The thing that he's hauling. Is it like the veil?
Hey byf does anyone know a reason all the deciples spew out dark strand when they die yet?
Posted 30 mins ago? Let's fucking gooooo.
How cool would it be if we had a season dedicated to fighting the Acolytes of Nezerac!?
Wasn't there an entry in Season of the Plunder where Drifter gives something to Eris? I always thought that was the relic from the 4th tomb
He says that he has died before, so maybe he has other tombs for other deaths
Now this makes me back up a lot. Especially from one of the last videos that you did about the Eliksni captain that met that couldn’t sleep.Makes me wonder if it was around the same time that the drifter was at the 4th tomb. Plus if Nezarec is able to whisper from beyond the grave it ,makes me think who was subjected to the whispers and been lied too
Cayde heard the slow whisper so I’m interested on that backstory from his last transmission. I’m still suspicious of the Speaker.
The Armkra, or whish dragons whispered from the grave too.
@@majesticmajestic7058 yes and won’t be surprised that it was Nezarec the whole time talking through them
I'm thinking the drifter could have been to a planetoid and that's where he found it, Eris; Makemake, Quaoar, or Sedna to note a few. they all lay out past the Kuiper belt.