Me too. Even if i don't have time to watch the video i'll just click it and throw a like on it to help with the channel. Dude has been an older brother to us for decades now. Just showing us cool games and yelling at us when we're stupid. Forgiving us when we're absurd and pissing him off. He's a solid guy.
I feel like Noob should've played this out, if he can stall with 5 carriers or straight up kill the terran army until he gets one more round from the stargate's he would've a shoot to win this game.
yeah I agree, I have no idea why he would play a 30 minute game and then NOT try to make it work with the carriers. Like did he have to poop right at that second??
The terran player simply retreats with his tank army, splits it off to go and kill all the protoss bases, and then comes back with a massive goliath count. 5 carriers simply is not enough at that stage of the game, especially if they're fresh. Protoss had very little to work with in terms of position, as the terran had two very fresh bases and they can pump infinite goliaths off of them. It's all about positioning, a starcraft calculator would call that game a 98% loss.
@@seraphimconcordant By the time terran can field a good enough goliath army protoss would have 10 carriers not 5, and with 10 carriers anything is possible. Im not saying it was a protoss favoured position but Noob had some plays left in this game.
24:45 the panic sieging that terrans are addicted to really needs to be addressed. If he just puts the vultures in front on hold position, moves his unsieged tanks up and to the right, sieges a few of them in open areas away from the already sieged tanks, terran loses maybe 5 tanks in that fight and protoss has to back up. Instead he sieges his clumped tanks in between other already sieged tanks and loses 14 tanks for no reason.
I agree with you in spirit. But I think at the time they realize they need to siege, they no longer have the time to set up correctly. Terran needs to set up where the protoss attacks. You can't be set up everywhere. At that time, Terran needs to defend the entire height of the map. In this case, Terrans sets up after he sees the protoss move in. I think the question here is: would Terran do better if he didn't siege. And I think the answer is no. This is still a better trade for Terran. They start both maxxed out and they end the engage at 145 to 165 supply. The Terran is 20 supply up after the engage and the Protoss has more supply currently building than the Terran. So in this case, I think it was the right call.
@@eriks2962 He would have done better if he didnt siege those tanks right there, they could have moved back for 2-3 seconds and then sieged and he would have lost less. Sieging more tanks in a clump at the same time in a position where you already have 8 sieged tanks in range, doesnt add much more damage, they will all shoot at the same single unit on the same frame. And they all die to 1 storm and 1 zealot.
Really like this game, excellent set up defense for our Terran player, well turret placement, extra wraith for killing shuttles etc. I am so impressed for the big spider mine set up as well for the bottom two bases.
Aty. When I've seen you left SCII cast I thought it was a loss. But no. Thank you for bringing me back to SCI, as a viewer at least. My fascination with RTS has started from Starcraft back in the early 2000's, and it has determined my life for a large.
loved that the protoss noticed the scv movement and immediately conferred correctly the zealot was going to the wrong starting location and changed it almost immediatly to moving to top right
17:15 "I only miss some things some of the time". Its ok to be human :) Even when there is an observer who isn't trying to talk at the same time, some things will slip by, it's basically impossible to never miss anything.
19:00 you attack down and split the map, thats fine for terran. If you attack the main which is mined out already protoss gets 3/4 of the map and you lose.
I was wondering "Why is his vulture game kinda weak?" a bit of the way through. Like Shinee lost an unnecessary amount of siege tanks from failing to spider mine parts of the map. He had his siege tanks sitting in a defensive position doing nothing for a while when he could have scouted with vultures to see if an attack was actually coming. Then you explained that he's low on minerals and just couldn't afford it.
@@JadeSune you only need attack upgrades in pvt, and you need to play unit heavy if you sit back and wait for upgrades you are letting terran win i think
i think he quit too early those 5 carriers are not gonna lose to 6 goliaths and before more get across the map the next 5 would be out...that said i also think recall is too much of a gamble, stasis and a few storms can clean up chunks of terran army almost without risk to your units
Why GG? wth? He still coulda won if he played it out. Maybe loosing the main wouldve been brutal but there were gates in the other main... Could've still remade everything. HAd like a 5 K bank
Making turrets and placing mines where someone could drop something in your base is very old tactic. Don't get it why is Arty so amazed by it. We were doing it 20 years ago...
Love watching pro level Toss players with 4k resources banked completely skip over Corsair's disruption web ability and su!c!de dive thousands of minerals of units into turrets over and over. Like there's a campaign level that specifically teaches you about this lol
I am so glad arty has been so dedicated to this game and puts content out everyday. I look forward to his input and the videos
Artosis is like Godzilla: We are getting the chills when he appears :D
definitely one of the most on point dropship snipes i've seen in awhile
Carrier making structures, shuttle shooters.. You're making your own slang for this game Arty.
You'd expect nothing less from the inventor of crazy zerg.
I heard he’s cooking up crazy toss too.
I’m a simple man, I see an artosis drop, I click
Same! ;)
Me too. Even if i don't have time to watch the video i'll just click it and throw a like on it to help with the channel. Dude has been an older brother to us for decades now. Just showing us cool games and yelling at us when we're stupid. Forgiving us when we're absurd and pissing him off. He's a solid guy.
I see an artosis drop, I get chills
I thought this said "a single man"
Omg thank you for uploading! My lunch hasn’t been the same without artosis casts showing up in my algo
“Officer, that guy did it!” - points to high templar
loved to see a long terran vs protoss game😎
it's a long game but being played too safe by both of them
I feel like Noob should've played this out, if he can stall with 5 carriers or straight up kill the terran army until he gets one more round from the stargate's he would've a shoot to win this game.
yeah I agree, I have no idea why he would play a 30 minute game and then NOT try to make it work with the carriers. Like did he have to poop right at that second??
Seems like IdrA type rage-quitting with the all of flying units. :D
Saaame. I was shocked that he gg'd.
The terran player simply retreats with his tank army, splits it off to go and kill all the protoss bases, and then comes back with a massive goliath count. 5 carriers simply is not enough at that stage of the game, especially if they're fresh. Protoss had very little to work with in terms of position, as the terran had two very fresh bases and they can pump infinite goliaths off of them. It's all about positioning, a starcraft calculator would call that game a 98% loss.
@@seraphimconcordant By the time terran can field a good enough goliath army protoss would have 10 carriers not 5, and with 10 carriers anything is possible.
Im not saying it was a protoss favoured position but Noob had some plays left in this game.
24:45 the panic sieging that terrans are addicted to really needs to be addressed. If he just puts the vultures in front on hold position, moves his unsieged tanks up and to the right, sieges a few of them in open areas away from the already sieged tanks, terran loses maybe 5 tanks in that fight and protoss has to back up.
Instead he sieges his clumped tanks in between other already sieged tanks and loses 14 tanks for no reason.
He should have put spider mines in that region to slow protoss down, but I don't know if he had the minerals for it.
I agree with you in spirit. But I think at the time they realize they need to siege, they no longer have the time to set up correctly.
Terran needs to set up where the protoss attacks. You can't be set up everywhere. At that time, Terran needs to defend the entire height of the map. In this case, Terrans sets up after he sees the protoss move in.
I think the question here is: would Terran do better if he didn't siege. And I think the answer is no. This is still a better trade for Terran. They start both maxxed out and they end the engage at 145 to 165 supply. The Terran is 20 supply up after the engage and the Protoss has more supply currently building than the Terran. So in this case, I think it was the right call.
@@eriks2962 He would have done better if he didnt siege those tanks right there, they could have moved back for 2-3 seconds and then sieged and he would have lost less.
Sieging more tanks in a clump at the same time in a position where you already have 8 sieged tanks in range, doesnt add much more damage, they will all shoot at the same single unit on the same frame. And they all die to 1 storm and 1 zealot.
Really like this game, excellent set up defense for our Terran player, well turret placement, extra wraith for killing shuttles etc. I am so impressed for the big spider mine set up as well for the bottom two bases.
I'll never get sick of watching these.
At the very end, when it was said and done, I was overcome by chills.
Aty. When I've seen you left SCII cast I thought it was a loss. But no. Thank you for bringing me back to SCI, as a viewer at least. My fascination with RTS has started from Starcraft back in the early 2000's, and it has determined my life for a large.
loved that the protoss noticed the scv movement and immediately conferred correctly the zealot was going to the wrong starting location and changed it almost immediatly to moving to top right
Every failed dropship/shuttle that cost above 400+ minerals could have been a hidden CC/Nexus somewhere on the map :D
Man, it feels good to watch new starcraft every single day.
the hey guys is a higher and higher note every vid
"Hay guys! Mickey Tossis here. Ha-ha!"
Then it resets back to low, every so often.
I like that shine is repairing his Tanks and stuff!
As shania twain once pondered, "Where have all the SCVs gone?"
17:15 "I only miss some things some of the time".
Its ok to be human :) Even when there is an observer who isn't trying to talk at the same time, some things will slip by, it's basically impossible to never miss anything.
10:30 Somebody warn his wife to watch out for additional mines when she flies her shuttle in 😂😂😂
appreciate the quick reminder of zealot probe breakpoints until u get to 4 ranged goons.
nOOB, with his bank, could have tried Hallucination on a couple arbitiers and try to flood into the main base.
Speed is my new favorite
I wish just once Arty would do a cast with a Terran and he replaces 'spider mines' with 'deez nuts'.
Great game, great cast
Who needs american politics when you can have starcraft chills
Every Day Artosis!
Ty RT❤
I wana see flash vs soulkey next!
WHERE DID THEIR HAIR GO
"White chocolate bars and scrotum guns...."
Hype me up for the mine setup in right bottom base ... miss the 3x shuttle drop :/
A new Artosis Cast? Chills.
Shinee is my favorite player because of his big balls aura, ngl
second longer game in the row!
Where dey at tho?
3:43 Does it really matter though? He can just repair it, and I'm glad Shiny actually did it, don't see it as often as I should.
all these things about Terran having only two 3-4 minute windows to win the game are true except for Flash! He just wins :D
19:00 you attack down and split the map, thats fine for terran. If you attack the main which is mined out already protoss gets 3/4 of the map and you lose.
Great game!
Noob didn't listen to the electorate
I was wondering "Why is his vulture game kinda weak?" a bit of the way through. Like Shinee lost an unnecessary amount of siege tanks from failing to spider mine parts of the map. He had his siege tanks sitting in a defensive position doing nothing for a while when he could have scouted with vultures to see if an attack was actually coming.
Then you explained that he's low on minerals and just couldn't afford it.
6:20 what is with that randomly perfect Dragoon inteception movement? He only gets vision around 6:22
Like Arty was saying, the meta is at a point where you just walk your goons back at a specific time because the dropship is expected then.
great game!
Noob is not so much of a Noob.
What happened to flash!?
Why is he banned from ASL ???
a couple of no shows or sth in previous ASL seasons
He should make SSL next season. He's not banned from that, eh?
@@robrs8631 Lame. I was hoping for something more controversial, like caught using steroids or something 😆
Also because he lied about losing a game that he in fact won lol
GG. also, please translate the opening chit-chat
I like bad attitude shiny
Great game
I'm going to be laying a lot of mines in my base, if you know what I mean. 😉
8:25 / 31:49 time jump
13:31 / 31:49
How was he banned from ASL?
Yep
Why do Protoss seem to neglect upgrades so often? Why not double forge in the late game every time and get 3/3/3? Is the APM better spent elsewhere?
The shield upgrades are very expensive
Usually people ignore them
@@dj_koen1265 yeah but even just weapons and armor, they often seem to be way behind the Terran in upgrades.
@@JadeSune you only need attack upgrades in pvt, and you need to play unit heavy
if you sit back and wait for upgrades you are letting terran win i think
shartosis
Terran need to learn to not just A-move tanks like the Russians do.
i think he quit too early those 5 carriers are not gonna lose to 6 goliaths and before more get across the map the next 5 would be out...that said i also think recall is too much of a gamble, stasis and a few storms can clean up chunks of terran army almost without risk to your units
Pooptosis
Whys he banned from ASL?
you missed the recall at the bottom 27:28
That was probably a drop made with those 3 shuttles he has left.
For the algo
Instant Chills, just add water
Bit of a weak gg there I feel ... I mean, the game wasn't beyond hope.
Hey RT! Did you know that birds are dinosaurs?
ggs
GG
Fifty sixth!??
Spoilers
25+ min game, ends with +1 shielding... I'm so done with pro level protoss, disgusting.
Zerg is so HYPE!
gg
Corsairs + Dweb with dark templars is a great counter against a mech terran
Why GG? wth? He still coulda won if he played it out. Maybe loosing the main wouldve been brutal but there were gates in the other main... Could've still remade everything. HAd like a 5 K bank
Zerg is weak
Why is he clicking and highlighting everything 5 times a second? Whats the gain of that?
fartosis
What an excellent game.
First?!
Making turrets and placing mines where someone could drop something in your base is very old tactic. Don't get it why is Arty so amazed by it. We were doing it 20 years ago...
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Love watching pro level Toss players with 4k resources banked completely skip over Corsair's disruption web ability and su!c!de dive thousands of minerals of units into turrets over and over. Like there's a campaign level that specifically teaches you about this lol
Great game