Other dude: Hangs arround the entire map all the time and poks here and there Thermy: Builds one Battlecruiser at the time while chilling in his base. Wins game
Challenge idea: Contamination Focus on making mass Overseers to Contaminate your opponent. Supplement with other zerg units for defence and support for the Overseers. Utilize the fact Overseers are free of supply and you can have whole carpet of them. In the spirit of "contamination", consider spreading Creep in your opponent's base and potential expansion areas (eg using Overlords, Queen drops, etc) Contaminate sounds like a fun ability that have huge potential if done ad nauseam, but I've seen it being used perhaps only once or twice...
Funny enough since only zerg buildings survive on creep. This strat would work. The only problem is vision is easy to get as is air defense. And this doesn't work ZvZ so it's a bit hard to practice. Would love to see it happen though
Want to really impress me? 200 supply corruptors that melt every building before they can be killed. Could still have some workers with the spore crawler trick. Loved this, keep up the fine work!
TvP mech is so tough in LotV, but it's my favorite MU - thank you uThermal for showing how to play a fun turtle mech style centering around BC as the core unit!!
I believe he's talking about how Widow Mines now gives a "Your forces are under attack/workers are under attack" alert when the mines burrow in view (as opposed to giving the alert after everything you own has already exploded)
Everyone is sharing kid SC1 stories. So here's mine. I used to do 4v4s and would tell them to give me time to mass wraiths (since BCs were a bit too slow and expensive to achieve what im about to say). Since SC1 didn't have large control groups, it was annoying to manage multiple groups as a dumb kid. So instead, I would patrol one in my base, make them all follow him so they clustered together. Then, when maxed out, I'd send him in with them following. He would die first, and they would all spread out at once and destroy the whole area where I unleashed them. And since they were all coming in at exactly the same time together, it was hard for opponents to counter it since they also couldn't have one large control group.
People actually use these strats on the ladder. I've lost to them MANY times. They basically just turtle on a somewhat low worker count, and eventually max out on an ENORMOUS amount of mass voids, or mass BCs, or hell even mass reapers on max upgrades. If you let it take you by surprise, it's just GG because you'll never have enough units to kill their insane deathball. Only way to beat it is outmacro them and keep forcing trades even if they're unfavorable trades.
GM players who think the build is unstoppable when they couldn’t stop Marc in a standard game anyway 😂 The gap between pro (even former) and non-pros is massive. Almost like a difference between master and GM.
thats how i used to play every game... turtle start, bunker push, expand, small air, mass bc, eventually delete everything to make more bc, only play with what i need to defend, then slowly start taking bases, but never show the whole fleet so they think they have a chance, always just barely what is needed to win.
In my mind sounds"The Imperial March" when you complete the comp and atack, he havent a chance vs that ammount of air supply army with no storms, bad move make archons, 20 HT and you fail sure, amazing game anyway
good job. Marc surprised he didn't go carriers. Do you take request? I was thinking mass carriers for your next video similar to this one. Have a great day!!!!1
Next challenge ! You and really low ali (friend or wiever or so, but player) against insane AI, but your ali MUST survive =) How many enemies is up to you ... I believe ur challenging enuf to choose more than one enemy haha =)
Hey Marc! Cheers for another nice episode! :) I asked in the past, would you consider to put back the original death animation with blood & drag doll physic? Instead the black magical death smoke? As it´s one of the best part for years, when watching your play & all the action that is happening! :) I dunno, it feels so empty & dull with out it & missing out sometimes, onto what disappears & what does not, sometimes? :/ A little bet less entertaining as well, as if some music or sound was missing out? Saying it out in a polite way! :)
I feel like you weren't using yamato much at all until the very end.. maybe on purpose? Also i think building armor and turret range are good upgrades for this build especially since you have fewer defensive units at the point when these upgrades aren't that expensive nor using upgrade cooldowns/timers that you want (armory)
Yeah, outright mass tempests seems like it would have a similar issue to carriers--being shredded by Yamatos at the start of the fight. I honestly don't know what protoss does against mass BCs. A mix of Tempests and Void Rays maybe? Carriers aren't any good here, even if they live. BC armor blocks most of the interceptors' damage. Zerg can substantially outnumber BCs with tough Corruptors. It's sort of the entire reason the unit exists. I haven't played sc2 in a long time, what spells does the Mothership have now? Stasis would be a huge deal.
U should do the x to Grand Master more often, it has been over two month now. I like your content in general but it kind of feels like you have just abondon all your x to Grand Master fans. Sadge
The plate at the bottom of the main-2nd base ramp? It's to prevent some bs rushes that only some races could pull off and some races literally couldn't defend
@@randomguypi-uf2jc people usually destroy the plates to avoid mismicroing while A-moving around. These rock can be annoying if you're trying to A-move around enemy units, and you instead click the rock.
When I was trying to learn to play sc2 almost every game was someone doing something strange like this and I absolutely hated it. Because you are just delaying my loss and I learned nothing.
If you're new to sc2 and just starting to learn the basics your opponent's build doesn't matter too much, focusing on improving your basics like actually spending your money and not being supply blocked is way more important :)
@@uThermal True, but I also want to feel rewarded for improving. I could easily just play against the AI every game, because even between gold and low diamond it is still more about just not getting supply blocked and use of resources. I play to have fun. Getting owned by bs like a million widow mines everywhere and 2x simultanius drops + 2x nukes at the same time... that just isn't fun. I am sure it is for the smurf. And sc2 is full of this stuff at lower level, at least the EU servers.
@@uThermal Also unironically, if you wanted to make sc2 more approachable for newcomers, you would make a ranking category for 10 minutes no fighting or 'no fog of war' because f losing just because you are inexperienced and haven't yet played every race for 500 hours.
mark, all i hear is bullshit bullshit bullshit starcraft 2. seriously, your insane genius builds with starcraft are refreshing. since you started playing bar, now (very drunk) i hope your genius can bring an actual differecne because playing against players or ai both is boring.
Now, imagine if you are real commander of 33 battlecruisers with 500 people on board on each ship... 16 500 people lol you will start walking like Putin :D :D
The kid in me that used to play original Starcraft only by maxing out on BC's is smiling so nicely. Thank you, Marc! This was really enjoyable.
Mass Guardians, Carriers, or BCs, The only strategy I knew when I was a kid haha
lol I actually did that too, that time BC was 8 pop and I always played 2 full groups
men of culture. true gamers
Always rocked the str8 BC army. Battle cruiser operational!
One game I did this with carriers. Then I left one enemy supply depot alive and covered every square inch of the map in pylons.
I remember playing SC1 as a kid and maxing out BC's on 1 starport, not even considering I could build more than 1 starport.
haha same
And kept doing that for soooo long. Too relatable.
a man of culture
"And waste resources what kind of maniac does that?" -kid me probably.
Me thinking y make workers when I already got these and y make another base when I can fly my base hahaha were would I be if I had guidance early
Other dude: Hangs arround the entire map all the time and poks here and there
Thermy: Builds one Battlecruiser at the time while chilling in his base.
Wins game
Work smarter, not harder.
This is pretty much what I used to do in every match
And now you see that against a top 75 grand master 🔥
so real 🙏🙏
Challenge idea: Contamination
Focus on making mass Overseers to Contaminate your opponent. Supplement with other zerg units for defence and support for the Overseers. Utilize the fact Overseers are free of supply and you can have whole carpet of them.
In the spirit of "contamination", consider spreading Creep in your opponent's base and potential expansion areas (eg using Overlords, Queen drops, etc)
Contaminate sounds like a fun ability that have huge potential if done ad nauseam, but I've seen it being used perhaps only once or twice...
This seems like a fun strategy.
Funny enough since only zerg buildings survive on creep. This strat would work. The only problem is vision is easy to get as is air defense. And this doesn't work ZvZ so it's a bit hard to practice. Would love to see it happen though
I'm a simple Terran, I see BC, I upvote
Oh hey this is how I play the campaign.
Finally a relatable pro I can watch
PURE BC-s
why?
BC why not
Hah
my man
top t ier
i see what you did there +1
Want to really impress me? 200 supply corruptors that melt every building before they can be killed. Could still have some workers with the spore crawler trick. Loved this, keep up the fine work!
26:45 Protoss needs the archon toilet for that s**t lol
This makes me feel old
The archon toilet is very cathartic
Yea.. I miss that.. times when the Mothership was actually useful.
BEAUTIFUL!!! THE NEOSTEEL ARMADA HAS ARRIVED LOL
I'd love to see this with Behemoth Battlecruisers from Starcraft 1
Who called in the fleet? uThermal. He called in THE fleet.
You shoulda asked him right after you finished the 32nd BC "do you know what the counter to 32 BC's is?"
33 BC :)
TvP mech is so tough in LotV, but it's my favorite MU - thank you uThermal for showing how to play a fun turtle mech style centering around BC as the core unit!!
Those are not BCs.... they're the eraser tool from Paint.
lol wow. There used to be a tool in some paint program I used forever ago where you could nuke the screen to delete everything and start over.
@AceOverlords KidPix was the name of that program.
@@TwistyTrav WOW! Your right. Thanks for that trip down memory lane.
SC2 YT Gold. Thank you Marc for a beautiful demonstration of Terran Exterminatus!
Pretty sure it is not a flock...
It is a MURDER of BCs... :P
Seems like a Pride to me.
An Annihilation of BCs
a Doom of BCs
A Yama-ton of BCs
The fake forgotten tanks was 300iq haha love it
-Battlecruiser Operational.
- Good day Commander
- Set the course
- Take it slow.
Shame you don't have the line formation advance like BAR has. That would be amazing to keep out of those storm clumps.
This was really fun to watch. Thx Thermy!
5:48 The widow mine drop makes a sound??? WHAT?????? What do you mean, Uthermal??? What sound??? When??? O.o
I believe he's talking about how Widow Mines now gives a "Your forces are under attack/workers are under attack" alert when the mines burrow in view (as opposed to giving the alert after everything you own has already exploded)
@@QJrocks Thanks. I had no idea about this.
Everyone is sharing kid SC1 stories. So here's mine. I used to do 4v4s and would tell them to give me time to mass wraiths (since BCs were a bit too slow and expensive to achieve what im about to say). Since SC1 didn't have large control groups, it was annoying to manage multiple groups as a dumb kid.
So instead, I would patrol one in my base, make them all follow him so they clustered together. Then, when maxed out, I'd send him in with them following.
He would die first, and they would all spread out at once and destroy the whole area where I unleashed them. And since they were all coming in at exactly the same time together, it was hard for opponents to counter it since they also couldn't have one large control group.
This is the kind of match I wanted to see immediately after seeing the game you refer to in this video :P
People actually use these strats on the ladder. I've lost to them MANY times. They basically just turtle on a somewhat low worker count, and eventually max out on an ENORMOUS amount of mass voids, or mass BCs, or hell even mass reapers on max upgrades.
If you let it take you by surprise, it's just GG because you'll never have enough units to kill their insane deathball. Only way to beat it is outmacro them and keep forcing trades even if they're unfavorable trades.
Some Russian players like to do mass BCs on random team games where they first kill their teamate, and then the opponents.
What about scouting? It Takes Long time to Build deathballs, and getting Hit by surprise just means did Zero scout
Bro had the whole gothic battlefleet lmao
that protoss army just melts like butter as u fly over it
i am just wondering why he didn't transitioned to sky units after seeing a bunch of BCs
likely a bot opponent. it kept maining stalkers for 25 minutes after seeing BCs and tanks, no grandmaster.
@@Woogieboog Do you actually believe that?
GM players who think the build is unstoppable when they couldn’t stop Marc in a standard game anyway 😂
The gap between pro (even former) and non-pros is massive. Almost like a difference between master and GM.
it is. bigger. It always goes exponential
@@pirds102010 no it doesnt lol. it goes the exact opposite
Go 200 supply of sentries
thats how i used to play every game... turtle start, bunker push, expand, small air, mass bc, eventually delete everything to make more bc, only play with what i need to defend, then slowly start taking bases, but never show the whole fleet so they think they have a chance, always just barely what is needed to win.
In my mind sounds"The Imperial March" when you complete the comp and atack, he havent a chance vs that ammount of air supply army with no storms, bad move make archons, 20 HT and you fail sure, amazing game anyway
I love the off game commentary!
8:29 another observer goes past the banshee
If I was that protoss player, I wouldn't have quit the game. I'd keep watching that armada evaporating my whole base)
I still do this in every 4v4 ranked pissing off my teammates every single match for no units or help until the end game
There is always that guy in 4v4's. So, I used to spam mass lings to cripple opponents and buy time for my turtle ally.
literally the same build my older brother does lol
Anytime I see someone play mass bc I wonder why they don't get 1 or 2 ravens for the anti armor missle
Big grubby fan but I find myself loving your content too keep it up big dog!
the tried and true terran strategy all terrans should do!
uThermal is doing God's work.
You are crazy Marc! 😂
pain in the a..
despicable mono-unit army.
straight from the twitch stream :)
Me: flying 9000km from germany to vietnam to sit here and watch thermi.
You cant make that shit up
200/200 liberators would eat this before breakfast. a break fast shake
i'd like to see 33 carriers into a-move into hands of
Very satisfying final battle
Meanwhile I'm over here getting my first racks at 10 minutes. High-level SC play is just something else man.
This is going to rock.
good job. Marc surprised he didn't go carriers. Do you take request? I was thinking mass carriers for your next video similar to this one. Have a great day!!!!1
Carriers get demolished by BCs. With even numbers, a third of the carriers die in the first few seconds to Yamato cannons.
Great idea and game!
Too bad you didn't try it when the Archon Toilet was a thing... :P
Beware!
Rumbling, Rumbling, it's coming!
Rumbling, Rumbling!
Coming for you!
Rumbling, Rumbling, it's coming!
Rumbling, Rumbling!
Next challenge ! You and really low ali (friend or wiever or so, but player) against insane AI, but your ali MUST survive =) How many enemies is up to you ... I believe ur challenging enuf to choose more than one enemy haha =)
Hey Marc! Cheers for another nice episode! :)
I asked in the past, would you consider to put back the original death animation with blood & drag doll physic? Instead the black magical death smoke?
As it´s one of the best part for years, when watching your play & all the action that is happening! :)
I dunno, it feels so empty & dull with out it & missing out sometimes, onto what disappears & what does not, sometimes? :/
A little bet less entertaining as well, as if some music or sound was missing out? Saying it out in a polite way! :)
This game: I get so far ahead I could win with anything, then I build lots of BC, like all videoes of this type....
Great audio quality.
Awesome video
Its ironic since the previous game your units lost was double
That was fun as heck.
Ah, so nice to see a decent BC count 😍
An artistic display, Odyseus.
need to change your name to forscience lol. Awesome vid
Your Move, Gumiho!
Cattlebrusiers RULE!
Build gateways... Bill Gates(way).bWhy did I hear the latter...
The real question, what do protoss taste like?
I feel like you weren't using yamato much at all until the very end.. maybe on purpose? Also i think building armor and turret range are good upgrades for this build especially since you have fewer defensive units at the point when these upgrades aren't that expensive nor using upgrade cooldowns/timers that you want (armory)
very heroic raven
perfect ladder build
Totally normal Terran gameplay
I remember playing sc1 with dmatrixed BC erase the map
A GM loses both of its adepts at minute 2
Banger
If your opponent let you live long enough to mass BCS, they deserve to lose.
Bro I can constantly get bc by the 5-6 with widow /sege for defense then run by to the min line
19:30 you said he wouldnt be able to focus em down, but, a good protoss would use camera hotkeys to easily focus them down.
Bravo!
mass tempest as a counter? I thought it was voids?
Yeah, outright mass tempests seems like it would have a similar issue to carriers--being shredded by Yamatos at the start of the fight.
I honestly don't know what protoss does against mass BCs. A mix of Tempests and Void Rays maybe? Carriers aren't any good here, even if they live. BC armor blocks most of the interceptors' damage.
Zerg can substantially outnumber BCs with tough Corruptors. It's sort of the entire reason the unit exists.
I haven't played sc2 in a long time, what spells does the Mothership have now? Stasis would be a huge deal.
I like when you do voice over... But the volume keeps going up and down sir.
3:29 that is horrible reaction time for a gm ngl.
U should do the x to Grand Master more often, it has been over two month now. I like your content in general but it kind of feels like you have just abondon all your x to Grand Master fans. Sadge
4:14 whats the point of that rock you're shooting. I see siimilar destructible obstacles on a kot of maps but i dont understand what they do
It's to stop enemy from building stuff to block you from exiting your your own ramp early game. Particularly protoss with 3 pylons
The plate at the bottom of the main-2nd base ramp? It's to prevent some bs rushes that only some races could pull off and some races literally couldn't defend
@@JustSomeRandomGuy42 ohh, that makes a lot of sense, and then you destroy it to build your own stuff.
Thank you fellow random guy
@@randomguypi-uf2jc Hahahaha
You welcome random bro
@@randomguypi-uf2jc people usually destroy the plates to avoid mismicroing while A-moving around. These rock can be annoying if you're trying to A-move around enemy units, and you instead click the rock.
amazing
Hi Marc, mayby its already told. But why not anymore your head in the screen?
Who called in the fleet ? (with a thick russian accent)
awesome :D
BC my fav
This guy played like a bronze leaguer… wasn’t even close. Smurfing is no fun
How to spot someone who doesn't play the game :P
Why have her Not 20 archons in motherships black Hole .......
They removed vortex like 11 years ago, lol
@@EdselsBakedGoods ok lol :) 11 years wow I'm getting old
When I was trying to learn to play sc2 almost every game was someone doing something strange like this and I absolutely hated it. Because you are just delaying my loss and I learned nothing.
If you're new to sc2 and just starting to learn the basics your opponent's build doesn't matter too much, focusing on improving your basics like actually spending your money and not being supply blocked is way more important :)
@@uThermal True, but I also want to feel rewarded for improving. I could easily just play against the AI every game, because even between gold and low diamond it is still more about just not getting supply blocked and use of resources. I play to have fun. Getting owned by bs like a million widow mines everywhere and 2x simultanius drops + 2x nukes at the same time... that just isn't fun. I am sure it is for the smurf. And sc2 is full of this stuff at lower level, at least the EU servers.
@@uThermal Also unironically, if you wanted to make sc2 more approachable for newcomers, you would make a ranking category for 10 minutes no fighting or 'no fog of war' because f losing just because you are inexperienced and haven't yet played every race for 500 hours.
i enjoyed it
bro can invade a planet with this army 💀
mark, all i hear is bullshit bullshit bullshit starcraft 2. seriously, your insane genius builds with starcraft are refreshing. since you started playing bar, now (very drunk) i hope your genius can bring an actual differecne because playing against players or ai both is boring.
What are actually the most cost-effective and most supply-efficiënt units in the game? Can you win vs a grandmaster with nukes only?
I can't believe I watched this with 0,25x speed
til that the plural noun for a group of BCs is a "flock" lol
No, it's not. It's a Murder. As in a Murder of crows.
I think they should patch SC2 and add a repair bay structure for Terran. So you don't have to use SCV's to repair.
Imba
Now, imagine if you are real commander of 33 battlecruisers with 500 people on board on each ship... 16 500 people lol you will start walking like Putin :D :D