Hi there, so glad I found your video, thanks for helping us, the newbies...Questions!! Should I consider closed cell foam? I hear it has a higher R value, but I'm worried about the weight and if it could damage the metal walls, since it is very rigid. Thanks man...cheers.
Hey there! Thank you for the comment but trust me, I am as much of a newbie as anyone... no expert here, just a bunch of opinions : ). I would not worry about damaging the metal as long as you leave enough room for the foam to expand and don’t spray too thick all at one time, coat in thinner layers. Closed cell is good on the moisture front. It’s what I went with and would go with again. Hope your project goes well!
The nailers that I am foaming around were screwed straight into bare metal. 3 wood to metal self drilling screws; one bottom/top/middle. I believe they were 1/4-20, 1 1/4” long zinc coated for rust resistance. Do what feels right to you though 👍 best of luck!
Biggest reason was to not reduce the interior height of the van which was already a little tight for me. Additionally I didn’t feel (and still don’t feel) that it really would have added much comfort to the living space.
Haha, don’t accuse me of being an expert! I will say that is not exactly correct based on my experience. It all has to do with where you park. I.e. if you park on asphalt on a hot summer day the heat is going to radiate from the road and the floor of the van will warm up. In the cold the floor does get a little cold. These are both to the touch, when you walk around barefoot. I honestly found that just putting a rug down made it easier to clean the van and mitigated these very slight discomforts. If the road is hot enough to heat the floor than your van is going to be hot no matter what... same goes for the floor. For me the interior height was most important.
The road noise was significantly less from foaming the walls, ceiling, and wheel wells. I’m not sure the floor would cut the house much more as there technically is a wood and tar paper barrier fixed to the metal sheet which dampens extra noise, furthermore the undercoating sprayed on the bottom of the van is thick and does a fairly good job dampening noise as well. I wouldn’t expect much of an improvement from spraying the floor.... spraying the flimsy metal on the sides and ceilings helps a ton!
E Deuce thanks for the question. I installed the front fan prior to spray foaming, I decided to add a second for air circulation after spray foaming. Having done it both ways I will say doing it after is easier to get a really nice fit, just costs you a little foam.
Hey mate, wondering if you could donate a sample of your two pack sprayfoam offcut to my channel. I want to get a bunch from different sources and test for any chemical outgassing. Cheers
Sorry Brendon, this was sprayed over a year and a half ago. We have no more off cuts. The best I could do is scrape off some really small pieces that are still expose on the frame. Not sure the quantity you need for an adequate sample but happy to help if possible.
@@GetBusyBuilding if you don't mind, that would be great. How tiny would the bits be? I'm fairly sure I should be able to test even a small amount. Message my name at gmail. Cheers
@@wolfie26 I haven't yet, in a cpl months I will be comparing outgassing and insulation in a video.... the thing with it is... I believe if the diy system of two pressurized cans are used it might be fine or it might not. Mainly for the reason the two chemicals might not be evenly metered, depending on temperature/viscosity/age etc. This could leave unreacted chemical. So it's a gamble. I would expect that in most circumstances the fully professional ones that use metering pumps should be ok. If I was considering spray foam, I'd probably just do it with steam and DIY single can foam as in my video.
Thank you for the detailed info in the video as well as the comments!
Got a link To the stuff you used? I have a transit which is a nightmare of ribs.
How is the foam working now? 4yrs in?
good channel and videos how many foam kits did you use? thanks
Used one foam kit and a bunch of great stuff bottles (probably about 15 bottles)
... I believe it was the 600 board foot kit
Hi there, so glad I found your video, thanks for helping us, the newbies...Questions!!
Should I consider closed cell foam? I hear it has a higher R value, but I'm worried about the weight and if it could damage the metal walls, since it is very rigid.
Thanks man...cheers.
Hey there! Thank you for the comment but trust me, I am as much of a newbie as anyone... no expert here, just a bunch of opinions : ). I would not worry about damaging the metal as long as you leave enough room for the foam to expand and don’t spray too thick all at one time, coat in thinner layers. Closed cell is good on the moisture front. It’s what I went with and would go with again. Hope your project goes well!
@@GetBusyBuilding how long would you wait between layers? is it a few hours, or day?
Nice job. How is it working out for you now?
The spray foam worked great for maintaining a good temp in the van, definitely happy to have gone that route
Did you just screw the wood boards into bare metal? Did you use wood screws? I want to use the same set up.
The nailers that I am foaming around were screwed straight into bare metal. 3 wood to metal self drilling screws; one bottom/top/middle. I believe they were 1/4-20, 1 1/4” long zinc coated for rust resistance. Do what feels right to you though 👍 best of luck!
Why did you not spray the floor?
Biggest reason was to not reduce the interior height of the van which was already a little tight for me. Additionally I didn’t feel (and still don’t feel) that it really would have added much comfort to the living space.
Haha, don’t accuse me of being an expert! I will say that is not exactly correct based on my experience. It all has to do with where you park. I.e. if you park on asphalt on a hot summer day the heat is going to radiate from the road and the floor of the van will warm up. In the cold the floor does get a little cold. These are both to the touch, when you walk around barefoot. I honestly found that just putting a rug down made it easier to clean the van and mitigated these very slight discomforts. If the road is hot enough to heat the floor than your van is going to be hot no matter what... same goes for the floor. For me the interior height was most important.
The road noise was significantly less from foaming the walls, ceiling, and wheel wells. I’m not sure the floor would cut the house much more as there technically is a wood and tar paper barrier fixed to the metal sheet which dampens extra noise, furthermore the undercoating sprayed on the bottom of the van is thick and does a fairly good job dampening noise as well. I wouldn’t expect much of an improvement from spraying the floor.... spraying the flimsy metal on the sides and ceilings helps a ton!
@@GetBusyBuilding maybe spray from the bottom
Do you knohw what kind of R-value the foam provides?
I would place the r-value approximately 4.5-6 per inch... best guestimate
Curious as to why you didn't install the ceiling fan before you did the spray foam ... what was your rationale?
E Deuce thanks for the question. I installed the front fan prior to spray foaming, I decided to add a second for air circulation after spray foaming. Having done it both ways I will say doing it after is easier to get a really nice fit, just costs you a little foam.
Did you spray foam the floors?
Nope, I addressed why in some of the other comments
The thumb nail looks a complete mess.
Haha it was pretty messy in person too. Overall a good first experience with the spray foam kit.
Very inconsistent coverage. Not a thought out nor quality job at all.
Thankfully the world has you to set them right, you can rest your worries
Hey mate, wondering if you could donate a sample of your two pack sprayfoam offcut to my channel. I want to get a bunch from different sources and test for any chemical outgassing. Cheers
Sorry Brendon, this was sprayed over a year and a half ago. We have no more off cuts. The best I could do is scrape off some really small pieces that are still expose on the frame. Not sure the quantity you need for an adequate sample but happy to help if possible.
@@GetBusyBuilding if you don't mind, that would be great. How tiny would the bits be? I'm fairly sure I should be able to test even a small amount. Message my name at gmail. Cheers
Brendon Tait Hey, did you ever run that test? I am debating installing the foam.
@@wolfie26 I haven't yet, in a cpl months I will be comparing outgassing and insulation in a video.... the thing with it is... I believe if the diy system of two pressurized cans are used it might be fine or it might not. Mainly for the reason the two chemicals might not be evenly metered, depending on temperature/viscosity/age etc. This could leave unreacted chemical. So it's a gamble. I would expect that in most circumstances the fully professional ones that use metering pumps should be ok. If I was considering spray foam, I'd probably just do it with steam and DIY single can foam as in my video.
Brendon Tait yes, I watched your video. I agree, it is a gamble.