From the television series "Star Trek," Season 1, Episode 2, "Charlie X," a nit that makes us wonder exactly what Captain Kirk was doing in that turbolift with that young man.
Ya creepy AF...and thru the years I always suspected that for that special effect...it may have been as simple (and quite creepily effective) as putting on a pantyhose over the actress's face lmao...think about it! ;D
What's interesting is in "Where no man has gone before" the producers decided to do an unbroken interior shot of the turbolift doors closing at a corridor, ascending to the bridge, and opening where we can clearly see the bridge and view screen. It's a very convincing shot except if you listen carefuly, you can hear the sounds of the stage crew moving the false corridor wall out of the way as the turbolift is rising.
Charlies powers destroy the USS Antares make laughing crewman disappear make all phasers disappear remove crew woman face make Mr Spock sing Bilbo Baggins so I think Changing kirks uniform in the turbo lift would not be a problem lol
I use to watch all trek in the day TOS,TNG,DS9,Voyager, and Enterprise , I have never watch one episode of STD as soon as I saw the Klingons new look I vowed I am out, and from what I have heard I have saved myself a lot of pain. The Orville is my new trek some episodes in season 1/2 pushed it a bit with woke crap but S3 seems to gotten rid that crap.
Time is compressed in a TV episode. What is one hour on TV could represent days worth of events. The episode where Kirk became Kirok took place over the course of months. So it isn't unreasonable to assume that Kirk halted the turbo lift on deck two, where his quarters are, to change shirts before proceeding to the bridge. Maybe he noticed an odor on his yellow shirt.
It means: continuity error. That is, because this show was produced on a tight budget and schedule, they did not have the luxury of correcting slight mistakes such as this. The bridge part of the scene may have been filmed on a different day than the entering the lift part, and there really is no 'tubo lift'. It is just another small set that doesn't really move. In 1966 they were just hoping the show would last another season. They could have had no idea that 50 years later there would be youtube and DVD boxed sets and that legions of trekkies with nothing better to do would be picking over every frame of the show looking for things like this!
Really. I mean... how old is he? 15? I've seen other videos, where the scenes were taken out of context, and cut to make the characters appear gay. You hit the nail on the head in describing these bottom-feeders. And even if, with a snowball's chance in hell, that they were right... WHO CARES? If this sort of thing gives you the giggles... I gotta wonder just how low your maturity level is.
@@philbertchow5425 Ahhhhhh... the ol "fun at parties" line. Please get a new insult. You kids have worn that out. So, I'm guessing, like the other school girls that giggle over that... you're 15 too? Yeah... I am fun at parties, like all the other mature adults I roll with. I eagerly await your next lame insult. When you're done, you can go ahead and claim your badly-needed UA-cam victory, as long it it makes you feel a little less shitty about yourself.
"I am on my way to the bridge now." Kirk speaks slow, relaxed, there is no urgency. So he simply changed his shirt on his way to the bridge. Nothing special about. Well, yes, it is an error, but why making such a wave if it can be explained.
The turbo lift scene. Hmm. Maybe Kirk decided to stop off at his quarters to change his stinky uniform shirt so now it's green? Great way to explain the lack of continuity.
Kirk: "Computer, green tunic #4." It's an offshoot of transporter technology. Mishaps were not uncommon. For example, a portion of the clothing would sometimes materialize under the skin; this was especially uncomfortable with undergarments.
Kind of like the Robinsons clothes washer in Lost In Space. You just dump the dirty clothes in. Turn it on for 10 seconds and the clothes come out clean folded and sealed in plastic bags
The reason for this is simple (kinda like the "What Color is the Dress"), the early S.T. shirts were green under normal lighting, but when using different type of lights would show up as being gold in color!
for context, Charlie can manipulate items and people. So in universe, he could of just changed Kirk from captain clothes to lazy clothes to humiliate him. In reality, two days of shooting and a terrible continuity error
Here’s what [could’ve] happened in the turbo lift; Charley said “I don’t like that shirt…I like this one much better.” When they arrived on the bridge…a different shirt! Only in this episode could this inconsistency be explained away!
I saw/read somewhere in an interview that William Shatner ahated that mustard yellow shirt - note the huge zipper up the left side - and absolutely refused to wear it anymore. Hence the green one, which I always thought suited him best.
@ Lynette Chamas. Actually the reason that the production crew on the original Star Trek TV series had William Shatner wear a green wrap-around shirt sometimes was to hide his weight gain. Shatner, despite working out whenever he had time for it, had difficulty keeping his weight down. So the production staff decided that the best way to hide his weight gain was to have him wear the green velour wrap-around shirt which would hide his weight gain better than the yellow shirt.
In a way a Voyager episode was a whole episode cf continuity errors but done entirely on purpose. I can't recall the name but it involved an anomoly causing sections of Voyager to existi in different parts of time. Then there was "Twisted".
The TOS command uniforms were actually lime green velour, a particular shade that was basically incompatible with the combination of color film, film-to-video conversion, NTSC broadcast color, and studio lighting of the day, to the point where it mostly appeared gold. Every now and then there would be a scene with a spot light (like this entrance to the bridge scene) or natural light on location that would reveal the proper green. Star Trek was not the only sci-fi series of the day to have this problem: "Athena from the green dimension" on "Lost in Space" also ended up gold on the late 60s color TV screens.
This is a result of how TV shows and movies are made. Events that are supposed to occur within a few minutes of each other may actual be filmed hours, days, or weeks apart if its a movie. Also, reshoots. Normally a continuity director would catch these IF there is a budget for one.
Charlie found the colour displeasing so changed it, using the same kung fu powers as Master Betty, who is a great magician and can change your clothes from black to red and back again
That makes *us* wonder? Who's *us*? Were you actually trying to correlate the change of shirt to a possible homosexual encounter between the captain and Charlie? The ONLY thing that makes *me* wonder is the amount of pimples on your face that you have left to pop, Phil. Grow up.
You know, I've seen this episode of Star Trek many times and I never caught that. Makes you wonder what happened in between scenes that caused a wardrobe change. He spill coffee on his shirt?
Stuff like this gets called out in now and then, but you know, I because I didn't notice didn't make Star Trek any less enjoyable. But I guess some have to get there moments of fame by pointing out these little flaws. Enjoy yourself.
In fairness, Charlie did have the power to transmute matter. His expression was due to the transport that had brought him to the Enterprise contacting the ship to let them know about Charlie's abilities.
I'm probably wrong but I imagine that he may have spilled or stained the shirt somehow in between scenes being filmed and they just gave him another one of his shirts and just sort of hoped it wouldn't be noticed? I assume they didn't make a crap ton of the uniforms and had just enough that each actor had at least one or two they could wear and was probably made for their size.
" Eh, Charlie?, I meant to go to my quarters and change my shirt..........perhaps can you do your " Magic" on me ?." " with your permission, .......what shirt Captain ?." " My green wrap around will do." " OK , Captain, call it done." " Er, eh Thank you, Charlie." " Any time, Captain."😂 Kirk with a different shirt enters the bridge with Charlie, mystery solved.
Well, I sheepishly confess, that I've been watching ST:TOS for about that long (since later childhood in the mid-ish-1970s), and it's the first I've noticed it. Ahem.
What happens on the the turbolift doesn't always stay on the the turbolift. It does frequently smell like someone left a few smelly ones go in there on the way up
In fairness, Kirk's standard uniform was green, too - it's just a number of factors made it look yellow-gold on actual film and TV sets. The green wraparound tunic was of a different material that made its intended coloration stick out better.
Maybe the turbolift has the same clothes changing feature as the batpoles from the Adam West Batman series.
A s both shows were on at the same time, what else could it be?
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If the transporter room can have food delivery slots, the turbolift can have a clothes closet.
So Kirk steps out of the turbolift wearing the Batman outfit, looks down, and says “Damn! Not again!”
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Charli obously changed Kirk's shirt with his mind powers and he was scared someone would notice
Never thought of that as an excuse..I buy it
Brilliant answer!
Continuity problems aside, this episode scared me when I was little. The no face woman terrified me!
Ya creepy AF...and thru the years I always suspected that for that special effect...it may have been as simple (and quite creepily effective) as putting on a pantyhose over the actress's face lmao...think about it! ;D
The original series loved pantyhose. FJB
@@denniskirk4055 I don't care how it was done. The thought of having no face seriously scared me when I was little!
Sacred me too, you’re not the only one.
The faceless crew lady scene was my absolute first exposure to Star Trek. I was up past my bedtime, and that sight got be heading back to bed pronto.
What's interesting is in "Where no man has gone before" the producers decided to do an unbroken interior shot of the turbolift doors closing at a corridor, ascending to the bridge, and opening where we can clearly see the bridge and view screen. It's a very convincing shot except if you listen carefuly, you can hear the sounds of the stage crew moving the false corridor wall out of the way as the turbolift is rising.
Charlies powers
destroy the USS Antares
make laughing crewman disappear
make all phasers disappear
remove crew woman face
make Mr Spock sing Bilbo Baggins
so I think Changing kirks uniform in the turbo lift would not be a problem lol
Make Yeoman Rand's uniform disappear😍FJB
Over-aging a crew-woman, turning poor Tina Lawton into a iguana...
I think it was the SS Antares.
What happens in the Turbo Lift, stays in the Turbo Lift!😮
Despite these errors I can still watch these episodes over, and over, and over again. Newer shows, even Star Trek, one viewing is more than enough!
I use to watch all trek in the day TOS,TNG,DS9,Voyager, and Enterprise , I have never watch one episode of STD as soon as I saw the Klingons new look I vowed I am out, and from what I have heard I have saved myself a lot of pain. The Orville is my new trek some episodes in season 1/2 pushed it a bit with woke crap but S3 seems to gotten rid that crap.
When I watch shows, ST included, I don’t sit there analyzing every second what might be different. I just enjoy what I am watching.
@@ntal5859 season 3 of picard seems to have made some decent trek, no alex kurtzman
Maybe they did it on purpose just to screw with everybody who is paying attention.
To be fair Charlie X is one of the terrible episodes. I am required to watch it because I am a obsessed
Time is compressed in a TV episode. What is one hour on TV could represent days worth of events. The episode where Kirk became Kirok took place over the course of months.
So it isn't unreasonable to assume that Kirk halted the turbo lift on deck two, where his quarters are, to change shirts before proceeding to the bridge. Maybe he noticed an odor on his yellow shirt.
When did Kirk become kirok?
@@001SpecialAgent "The Paradise Syndrome," s03e03.
THANK YOU for mentioning time compression! So many people think the events in an episode happen in 30 minutes or an hour.
Nah, it’s a continuity error
@@charlesameyer1 Obviously. But not one that can't be explained in-world.
It means: continuity error. That is, because this show was produced on a tight budget and schedule, they did not have the luxury of correcting slight mistakes such as this. The bridge part of the scene may have been filmed on a different day than the entering the lift part, and there really is no 'tubo lift'. It is just another small set that doesn't really move. In 1966 they were just hoping the show would last another season. They could have had no idea that 50 years later there would be youtube and DVD boxed sets and that legions of trekkies with nothing better to do would be picking over every frame of the show looking for things like this!
Really. I mean... how old is he? 15?
I've seen other videos, where the scenes were taken out of context, and cut to make the characters appear gay. You hit the nail on the head in describing these bottom-feeders. And even if, with a snowball's chance in hell, that they were right... WHO CARES? If this sort of thing gives you the giggles... I gotta wonder just how low your maturity level is.
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You’re fun at parties, aren’t you.
@@philbertchow5425 Ahhhhhh... the ol "fun at parties" line. Please get a new insult. You kids have worn that out.
So, I'm guessing, like the other school girls that giggle over that... you're 15 too?
Yeah... I am fun at parties, like all the other mature adults I roll with. I eagerly await your next lame insult. When you're done, you can go ahead and claim your badly-needed UA-cam victory, as long it it makes you feel a little less shitty about yourself.
Wet blankets who don't like jokes 🖖
"I am on my way to the bridge now." Kirk speaks slow, relaxed, there is no urgency. So he simply changed his shirt on his way to the bridge. Nothing special about.
Well, yes, it is an error, but why making such a wave if it can be explained.
The turbo lift scene. Hmm. Maybe Kirk decided to stop off at his quarters to change his stinky uniform shirt so now it's green? Great way to explain the lack of continuity.
@@roncaruso931 do you look at everything in sexual terms?
Kirk and Charlie engaged discreetly during the turbo-lift, so Kirk changed his clothes.
I think Kirk stopped off in his quarters and changed his shirt really really really quick. Ha
Kirk: "Computer, green tunic #4." It's an offshoot of transporter technology. Mishaps were not uncommon. For example, a portion of the clothing would sometimes materialize under the skin; this was especially uncomfortable with undergarments.
Wow you’re right I never noticed that before
Kind of like the Robinsons clothes washer in Lost In Space. You just dump the dirty clothes in. Turn it on for 10 seconds and the clothes come out clean folded and sealed in plastic bags
Not only different but upgraded with gold leaf. More dress-uniform style.
Charlie and those mind powers again..
It was always green, it's the lighting that changed the color to gold.
What happens in the turbolift, stays in the turbolift.
That turbolift is badass. Even picks your wardrobe. I wonder if they shower in there on the way up.
The reason for this is simple (kinda like the "What Color is the Dress"), the early S.T. shirts were green under normal lighting, but when using different type of lights would show up as being gold in color!
Imagine if Kirk got in the turbolift but then someone else got out at the bridge.
for context, Charlie can manipulate items and people. So in universe, he could of just changed Kirk from captain clothes to lazy clothes to humiliate him. In reality, two days of shooting and a terrible continuity error
Kirk got the upper hand by not noticing it.
Brokeback turbolift 🤠
HE'S MAGIC.
Not just a cabin boy
a STAR Cabin Boy..!
Here’s what [could’ve] happened in the turbo lift; Charley said “I don’t like that shirt…I like this one much better.” When they arrived on the bridge…a different shirt! Only in this episode could this inconsistency be explained away!
Actually in, "The Squire of Gothos", it could've happened and been explained in the same way... if Trelaine so willed it.
I saw/read somewhere in an interview that William Shatner ahated that mustard yellow shirt - note the huge zipper up the left side - and absolutely refused to wear it anymore. Hence the green one, which I always thought suited him best.
@ Lynette Chamas. Actually the reason that the production crew on the original Star Trek TV series had William Shatner wear a green wrap-around shirt sometimes was to hide his weight gain. Shatner, despite working out whenever he had time for it, had difficulty keeping his weight down. So the production staff decided that the best way to hide his weight gain was to have him wear the green velour wrap-around shirt which would hide his weight gain better than the yellow shirt.
Oops.
This is what is called a Continuity Error. Very prevalent in shows of that era.
In a way a Voyager episode was a whole episode cf continuity errors but done entirely on purpose. I can't recall the name but it involved an anomoly causing sections of Voyager to existi in different parts of time. Then there was "Twisted".
The shirt change of Kirk happens in several episodes.
Charlie is capable of a lot!!.....Maybe he changed Kirk's shirt for him! ....lol...
The TOS command uniforms were actually lime green velour, a particular shade that was basically incompatible with the combination of color film, film-to-video conversion, NTSC broadcast color, and studio lighting of the day, to the point where it mostly appeared gold. Every now and then there would be a scene with a spot light (like this entrance to the bridge scene) or natural light on location that would reveal the proper green. Star Trek was not the only sci-fi series of the day to have this problem: "Athena from the green dimension" on "Lost in Space" also ended up gold on the late 60s color TV screens.
True. The first thing I thought, too. But the design of the 2 shirts is entirely different.
If that's the case, how do you explain scenes where a green-shirted Kirk is seen along with gold-shirted peers?
Well, it was the 1960s. A different era.
Unhealthy and disturbing father-son relationships were apparently quite commonplace.
This is a result of how TV shows and movies are made. Events that are supposed to occur within a few minutes of each other may actual be filmed hours, days, or weeks apart if its a movie. Also, reshoots. Normally a continuity director would catch these IF there is a budget for one.
Charlie found the colour displeasing so changed it, using the same kung fu powers as Master Betty, who is a great magician and can change your clothes from black to red and back again
That makes *us* wonder? Who's *us*?
Were you actually trying to correlate the change of shirt to a possible homosexual encounter between the captain and Charlie?
The ONLY thing that makes *me* wonder is the amount of pimples on your face that you have left to pop, Phil. Grow up.
It could have been worse; Charlie could've removed Kirk's pants! 😮
You know, I've seen this episode of Star Trek many times and I never caught that. Makes you wonder what happened in between scenes that caused a wardrobe change. He spill coffee on his shirt?
Apparently they stopped off at the captain's quarters....and then resumed to the bridge......not that there's anything wrong with that.
The turbolifts on the Enterprise have 'emergency change of shirt' compartments, exclusively for the captain's use. To meet special protocols.
In other words, what happens in the turbolift STAYS in the turbolift.
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Stuff like this gets called out in now and then, but you know, I because I didn't notice didn't make Star Trek any less enjoyable. But I guess some have to get there moments of fame by pointing out these little flaws. Enjoy yourself.
In fairness, Charlie did have the power to transmute matter. His expression was due to the transport that had brought him to the Enterprise contacting the ship to let them know about Charlie's abilities.
Nothing untoward happening between Kirk and Charlie, contrary to the innuendo in the narrative. Maybe Kirk has a really runny nose.
Nice - never noticed that before! "What happens in the turbolift stays in the turbolift".
also the green mile and rats di
LOL seen it a 100 times and never noticed it. See Hollywood knows how dumb we are. It’s like Batman and Robin to the Bat cave
Weird how I never noticed that, maybe because my television was black-and-white ?
I love my Star Trek I'm putting my money on a continuity flaw... not a turbo shaft!
He did a Wonder Woman piroette spin turn in the turbolift.
This is nothing compared to Steven Seagal's wardrobe changes while he's driving a car in one of his later terrible movies
Some wardrobe continuity guy obviously got a talking to, if not fired.
I'm probably wrong but I imagine that he may have spilled or stained the shirt somehow in between scenes being filmed and they just gave him another one of his shirts and just sort of hoped it wouldn't be noticed? I assume they didn't make a crap ton of the uniforms and had just enough that each actor had at least one or two they could wear and was probably made for their size.
Because Yeoman Rand was waiting in his quarters with a fresh clean shirt for him. After he kept Charlie waiting outside in the hallway for an hour.
I like that explanation, but he would have had to make it quick since he already announced he was on his way. Now if he had said, "I'm coming soon"...
@@anonygent Kirk was pretty fast when he needed to be.
He doubled back to his quarters, and changed
Brilliant observation. But, those of us who watched this show for over 50 years already knew about this massive blunder. Moving right along...
" Eh, Charlie?, I meant to go to my quarters and change my shirt..........perhaps can you do your " Magic" on me ?."
" with your permission, .......what shirt Captain ?."
" My green wrap around will do."
" OK , Captain, call it done."
" Er, eh Thank you, Charlie."
" Any time, Captain."😂
Kirk with a different shirt enters the bridge with Charlie, mystery solved.
Well, I sheepishly confess, that I've been watching ST:TOS for about that long (since later childhood in the mid-ish-1970s), and it's the first I've noticed it. Ahem.
Oops! They got the wardrobe wrong for the shoot. 🤷♂️
Could be a fun drinking game "TOS continuity errors" 🤓
That is not a drinking game that is called being a binge drinker. !!!
What happens in the turbolift stays in the turbolift.
What happens on the the turbolift doesn't always stay on the the turbolift. It does frequently smell like someone left a few smelly ones go in there on the way up
What happens in the turbo lift...stays in the turbo lift.
Nah mate you just have some "tendancies"
Yeah this is old news. They got the costumes wrong for Kirk on this ep
Eh ... Your thinking too hard about it dude.
obviously his turbo lift left a DNA stain on the other shirt...
Charlie ripped it in the Turbolift and Kirk demanded he get him a new one.
i wouldnt put it past either of them...
I missed that. woudln't it be better in black and white ?
.....Stays in the Turbolift.
who new untill this video I never paid attention CGI could retune the shirt in the next rebooted series
Lol it means they were churning out thirty hours of this show every year
Come on, this kind of stuff is redickulus.
someone farted in the turbolift
....stays on the turbolift.
... stays in the turbolift 😉
Hot times in the turbolift.
So he couldn't simply have remembered he wanted go to his quarters on the way to the bridge to change his tunic?
He could, but in the absence of a long period of time (say, the following day). A uniform change needs to be explained in the story
It’s actually the Batpole.
I don't care, as long as can see Uhura!!!
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How does a lift have a turbo
.....stays on the turbo lift.
Oh good god..... hahaha That's some scary shit!
Wow! 😮 Never caught that.
His shirt turned into a shirt hulk?
Did you also see the flea on the tick?
So, what are you saying 🤔
Inappropriate comment, bro.
He's not a "bro". Just another 15 year old, self-anointed, bromance specialist.
Very Inappropriate. I commented likewise.
LOL " PRICELESS "
Wow, never noticed that one!
Good catch! 😅
Kirk: hold this for me.
FJB & Monkeypox
never noticed that
I never really liked that green uniform Kirk wore in a few episodes of seasons 1 and 2.
In fairness, Kirk's standard uniform was green, too - it's just a number of factors made it look yellow-gold on actual film and TV sets. The green wraparound tunic was of a different material that made its intended coloration stick out better.
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A turbo event! 😅
3 takes.
Oops 😬
Haha