The human-form replicator Niam explains to Doctor Weir of the Atlantis expedition how his people were created. Stargate and Stargate Atlantis are copyright MGM.
It's all the Ancients' fault: 1. They refused to confront the Ori, allowing them to ascend and gain ultimate power. 2. They colonized the Pegasus Galaxy, but their DNA was assimilated by the Iratus Bug creating the Wraith, they then allowed the Wraith to steal their technology and conquer the Pegasus galaxy, and failed to stop them. 3. They created the Replicators as a weapon to destroy the Wraith, and lost control of them. 4. Upon returning to the MW, they learned to ascend, but littered the galaxy with a network of Stargates, including leaving one on P3X 888, allowing the Goa'uld to access to them as well as left behind Ancient tech, giving them the tools to conquer the MW galaxy.
The ancients from stargate have their own page on the neglectful precursors page of tvtropes. Its not like they couldn't have cleaned up the tech they left behind after they ascended since they did interfere when Merlin tried to make a ascended being killing device.
Loki Darksong I think the point was no matter where you go the same crap happens over and Over again. And with Jack building the ARG the ancients had to have encountered some as well.
the dude who build the android (which created replicatorblocks than) had found maybe an old acient research lab? or maybe that was one of those surviving Ancient settled zivilisations, they had spread all over?
You gotta give some mad fucking props for the Milky Way replicators after watching this one. Asurans were engineered by the Ancients at the height of their technological advances, while Milky Way replicators evolved on their own, and at incredibly fast rate. Universe could've used the replicator threat again, sadly they never got around to.
+Volthoom They evolved that quickly because they had Reese's body (the origin of the replicators in the Milky Way). I just watched that episode with a friend and one of the Replicators says "We made ourselves in Reese's image".
2. I mean the same weapon was used on them and it worked a few times so we all know its possible. A friend of mine once told me, "the smarter someone gets the dumber they become" and the Alterans are prime examples.
I believe that if you watch that episode with reese again, you will figure out what I did, the planet they found her on was one colonized by preascended, and reese was and experiment of her "Fathers", that got out of hand even for them. A race of transplanted humans could not have gotten that far advanced. When the episode was made we did not know too much about the gate builders yet. The tolans were the most advanced humans who had come from earth eons ago, because they had no dark ages.
One of the Ancients came back to Milky Way and continued the experiments on replicators. He created the human-form replicator/android called Reese. She on the other hand created Milky Way replicators.
@@theleanbusinessman5431 The Alterans never cleaned up after themselves, leaving extremely dangerous technologies pretty much everywhere for just anyone to blow themselves up with, and it's obvious due to how they treated the Asurians that they had no regard for sentient life in any form apart from themselves.
I feel like the best solution would be to ask the replicators for one of the many copies of the city they have, move all the human stuff onto it, then give them the original to destroy. Bam, no problem.
That blond one gets jettisoned out of a ship and since he is a machine, he doesnt suffocate from lack of oxygen in the atmosphere or freeze. He just nonchalantly and patiently floats through space with a creepy look on a face, knowing that he will eventually reach his destination.
MrCommentz, what you say is partially true, but Reese was created by an Ancient. She was based on the same technology. So she could also replicate and create blocks from metal. She created the milky-way replicators, which eventually created human kind replicators. So it does fit in the story.
The ancients are much older than the Asgard. They occupied and populated vast amounts of galaxies. It would be impossible to gather/destroy all their technologies.
Don't forget that, the Atlantis expedition reactivated the Asurans, they would have remained on their homeworld, doing nothing. The Ancients wanted to destroy the replicators because they knew how dangerous they can be.
Pity the Ancients never learned to grow wiser before they made all these messes. They had the smarts to play god, but not the wisdom to refrain from doing so and causing so many problems for others. They were like children playing with toys of technology. Heedless, thoughtless, and irresponsible. A lesson lost on most humans too.
You could say the the replicators in sg1 where the weapon that the ancients had desired to fight against the wraith. I mean those bug form replicators were the perfect weapon against any technologically advance civilization. capable of assimilating tech they come across and then improving its capabilities beyond it original function. On top of that they are able to replicate exponentially having overwhelming numbers.
@BuuZeroC Asurans are Replicators, the originals also took on a human form, they just did it in a different manner, these Replicators were designed to kill Wrath and become the most advanced form they could take, thus why they resemble Ancients. The "original" Replicators were an accident made from toys.
My feeling of ancients is this: imagine the most arrogant, intelligent and narcissistic person you know. And that's your average Ancient. Oh yeah and they were either a light dictatorship or strongly aristocratic society.
What I don't understand is if the Ancients wanted to annihilate the Replicators they created, why did they have to decimate an entire planet? To me that seems pretty wasteful given how they could just use replicator disruptors without causing such wholesale destruction. Unless of course this was before they invented them but surely there has to be better ways than this.
+Krinkut Origiona The ancients dint anticipate the nanites to evolve to human form, they wanted to use it microscopically. At the time i believe they dint have any kind of shutdown sequence, or developed any, and only the wraith knew how. The asurans were probably destroyed for suggesting the destruction of the human population as a means to fight the wraith.
Why not just program them to face the wraith purely in combat and nothing else, the asurans kick ass while the ancients do the ethics, a 60 million year old civilization that can't program, wtf.
They didn't really program replicators, they programmed self-replicating, intelligent nanovirus bots that evolved into replicators as a result of their persistent attempts to improve. The Asurans were an accident, and seemed too unpredictable in the long run to risk working with. With regards to destroying them, it was a pretty cheap method at least, given that they had practically infinite power for their ships, and it took millenia for the Asurans to recover (and still without the ability to actually do anything, so they could always do it again later when they did eventually recover). Presumably they didn't want to make them vulnerable to some of the smarter Wraith, since they've proven adept at working with viruses and machine coding anyways; as a result, they might have a base code that's too difficult to tamper with effectively.
I might have taken the aggression programming down a notch or two after dealing with the wraith to a point of making reasonable negotiations that benefits both.
Is it just me or did the various _Stargate_ series each express an anti-robot/android/AI sentiment? With the exception of Daniel Jackson, I can't remember *anyone* pushing back against the "It's just a machine." argument.
What I never understood is why they did not just ask the expedition team to delete their anger routines. I mean, they possess Atlantis, so they must be able to do that.
No, rather that the Replicators didn't ask the expedition team to do it. I mean, they admitted they hated their anger subroutine, and given that they're smart machines, why not take the chance to delete it?
Didn't the Wraith already found a way to forego the aggressive programming? Wasn't that why they were no long at war with the Wraith until McKay reactivated it?
***** Ok how is it that the replicators had 10,000 years to find a way to get rid of this code and couldn't find a solution despite all their advanced technology and intelligence. Yet McKay was able to override this program with 21st century computer hardware.
Just look at how many ships the Ancients used to destroy the replicators... This must have been relatively early on in the war for them to still have that many ships readily available and not out fighting the Wraith
Their ships stood no change against wraith motherships and cruisers. Most likely they weren't even introduced into any fights. I can't comprehend it. The most advanced race that a species could evolve to and they couldn't make proper shields. And their weapons based on slow drones instead of powerful beam weapons that could cripple enemies in matter of seconds.
Actually, we can't comprehend real production capabilites of spacefaring civilization. Wraith ships grew like live creatures from seeds, they could create millions of cruisers from one planet... Although, this this show is outdated (and has some logical mistakes), Ancients would produce automated ships on automated factories too... It's like difference between us with factories and Stone Age primitives with, well, stones...
What if the SGA agreed to remove this aggression program in favor of a more protective and constructive one. How would the story change and what would be the result?
the name of our story is D.A.R.Y.L., the ancients chose to destroy us because we would not become the weapon that they wished to have, we seek the one who stayed behind
Not evolved. They were technologically advanced compared to us Terrans. The evolved ones were those that ascended and yet, those weren’t that much more evolved.
So they had a beef with the ancients. Were any ancients living on Atlantis, I could understand them wanting to destroy it. But seeing as there were no ancients living there, destroying it would be pointless as no wrong doers would be punished by that action. Building a weapon that could dissipate energy, thereby killing ascended beings would be more profitable.
I realize you wrote this comment two years ago so mine might be irrelevant. However the Asurans (Pegasus galaxy replicators) were jealous of the Earthlings because the earthlings were seen as the Ancient's "favorite child". If you understand what I mean.
Remember before the incredibly contrived and undeservedly OP Wraith were added to the story and villains actually had meaning? We could say the Asgard were OP but they were mostly neutral until the Replicators drove them to extinction/suicide. But those replicators would have never been in the Milky Way if not for the Ancients and the Ancients would not have developed them if not for the Wraith with their absurd abilities. Had the Ancients retooled from exploration to war even just long enough to defeat the Wraith, they wouldn't have needed the Replicators at all. But, even if they still made them, they could have then removed their aggression since the Wraith threat would be gone. In the end, the true villain in all of this are the writers. I love the concept of and the show of Star Gate overall but there were some bad plot holes and writing in the show at times.
I disagree, they were beaten easier than the block replicators. Also the human form replicators that were with the block replicators were bullet proof. The Asurans were not which makes the block replicators stronger because they created human form replicators that were bullet proof.
10,000 years ago: The Ancients had technology that was better, then The federation in Star Trek. When they left for earth after protecting their city at the bottom of the ocean, They united with the newly evolved Humans causing the Myth of a city that sank to the bottom of the ocean. Daniel Jackson (in StarGate SG-1 discovered that an extra code was required to go to Atlantis. In the movie that was about 10 years ago!
I remember from that episode in Stargate Universe they'd mentioned that a SUPERIOR being or Race managed to create a planet just like that. (Snap of a finger) who were they talking about?
They did not specify a particular race in SGU that created the planet. The humans aboard Destiny claimed that because Destiny was not aware of the location of this planet and it did not have a Stargate (which would naturally have been placed there by the seeding ships if it were a natural planet), that it must be an artificial planet. As a result, they surmised that an incredibly powerful race using incredibly advanced technology must have just designed and built the planet, but since there were no markers saying "built by X", they could not say who did it.
James Kapahua I do not believe that they were ever even planning to revisit that mystery. It looked to me like a one-off episode in much the same way that many SG-1 and SGA episodes were one-offs with a random species or planet that provided interesting materials or questions, but were never mentioned again.
James Kapahua because people were too stupid to understand a masterpiece like SGU . That is why those human beings watch mindless sex , murder , teenage tv shows . So dont be surprised for the low watch ratings when producers cancelled the show . Also there were supposed to be another atlantis season but got cancelled too . As a stargate fan , I was very happy for seeing deadlier and realistic aliens in universe . Those blue aquatic aliens and the ones in the forest episode where those small things killed everyone on the planet . Was it alternative timeline ? Universe has the darkest atmosphere . Sg1 and atlantis have this cheerful tone . Both are about aliens while universe is about people in destiny .
I just dont get it man, they could have told the replicators : "Okay please allow us to leave atlantis before you destroy it, we have no reason to fight you, in fact if you need assistance with removing the aggressive protocol Dr Mckay or any of our scientists can assist, but please allow us to leave the city, we want no aggression or war with you".
I bet the alternans deactivated them destroyed them, and then the wrath came along and reactivated them.. hopping to steal the alternans knowledge that they have..
I think Stargate introduced the replicators in a very confusing way, it's either that or I'm the one confused between both kinds of replicators: 1- in SG-1, the replicators are introduced as a bug-like species, they are fast to replicate, able to assimilate any technology for their own purpose, and if not destroyed within far distance: easy to infect other ships. 2- Later, in one episode, the Asgard were able to trap the replicators in a time bubble, slowing them down and preventing them from leaving it, the replicators used that time to evolve into a human form and are much more powerful, later, the Galaxy were able to defeat the replicators under the leadership of Carter's replica (using the weapon on Dakkara), permanently ending their threat in the Milky Way Galaxy. 3- Again, the replicators show up on the Pegasus Galaxy, yet somehow they are in human form, and they don't use infection to replicate within the enemy's environment, and the question is: why ??? if the replicators in the Pegasus galaxy have the same origin of the replicators in the Milky way galaxy then doesn't that mean that they should appear as the original Bug-like species? the only ones who evolved to look like humans were the ones in the Milky Way, so how did the ones in the Pegasus Galaxy evolve as such ? Also, and it's important to repeat that question again: why don't the replicators on the Pegasus galaxy have the ability to infect & replicate ??
They don´t have the same orign. The replicator in Pegasus and the replicator in Ida are from different creators. The replicator at Pegasus are created by the Lanteans to figth the wraith,the replicator in Ida are created by a Android as a toy.
The way I always saw it, the Ancients made the Pegasus Replicators, then the Ancients left the Pegasus galaxy, but they did keep some of the research and technology. Ancient technology was then found, and without fully understanding the technology the replicators were recreated.
as ascended it shouldn't take them much time. also we can see here that older doesn't mean brighter fairer or better. Even after they left this plane of existence the ancients continued to punish other races of this plane for using the technology they left behind.(Ascension-sg1-s5ep3). Imposining their own laws in the lower plane, on races who know nothing about it. if they can do that, they can clean their messes up, without any problem
![SG Atlantis - Horizon & Replicator Retaliation [HD]](/img/n.gif)
It's all the Ancients' fault:
1. They refused to confront the Ori, allowing them to ascend and gain ultimate power.
2. They colonized the Pegasus Galaxy, but their DNA was assimilated by the Iratus Bug creating the Wraith, they then allowed the Wraith to steal their technology and conquer the Pegasus galaxy, and failed to stop them.
3. They created the Replicators as a weapon to destroy the Wraith, and lost control of them.
4. Upon returning to the MW, they learned to ascend, but littered the galaxy with a network of Stargates, including leaving one on P3X 888, allowing the Goa'uld to access to them as well as left behind Ancient tech, giving them the tools to conquer the MW galaxy.
Well, it's easy to critisize others then to do stuff like seed Galaxy with life. I doubt you could do better ^^
The ancients from stargate have their own page on the neglectful precursors page of tvtropes.
Its not like they couldn't have cleaned up the tech they left behind after they ascended since they did interfere when Merlin tried to make a ascended being killing device.
Give me all the knowledge of the ancients and technology and I think I could do one better.
For being one of the greatest civilizations in history, they were pretty fucking dumb. Shortsighted, to be specific.
We are all shortsighted in the eyes of history.
Aquaman must be pissed about that whole "destroy Atlantis" stuff.
Oh boy, he was the avatar of rage for the whole series!
@@Dloin Who?
Wrong movie clown
The only question with this is an earlier episode of Stargate SG1 that showed The Replicators as a toy that went amok.
different Replicators
Yeah, that's kind of confusing, really. There's the Mily Way Replicators, and the Pegasus Replicators.
Loki Darksong I think the point was no matter where you go the same crap happens over and Over again. And with Jack building the ARG the ancients had to have encountered some as well.
the dude who build the android (which created replicatorblocks than) had found maybe an old acient research lab? or maybe that was one of those surviving Ancient settled zivilisations, they had spread all over?
Yeah as Aik said, whoever created Reese was most likely an ancient who came back from the Pegasus galaxy.
This show had so much potential.
it did last 5 years, big mistake was cancelling it for sgu.
@@thehantavirus So true
You gotta give some mad fucking props for the Milky Way replicators after watching this one. Asurans were engineered by the Ancients at the height of their technological advances, while Milky Way replicators evolved on their own, and at incredibly fast rate.
Universe could've used the replicator threat again, sadly they never got around to.
+Volthoom They evolved that quickly because they had Reese's body (the origin of the replicators in the Milky Way). I just watched that episode with a friend and one of the Replicators says "We made ourselves in Reese's image".
And Reese was most likely created by one of the Ancient scientists who worked on these Replicators.
And they reversed the Asgard time dilation field that allowed them to evolve REALLY fast inside the bubble.
Actually they disevolution and then went forward again.
2. I mean the same weapon was used on them and it worked a few times so we all know its possible. A friend of mine once told me, "the smarter someone gets the dumber they become" and the Alterans are prime examples.
Remember when the replicators were terrifying insect robots instead of mopey androids with daddy issues?
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Yeah definitely preferred those ones
Good times
Different replicators from a different source, don't forget the original replicators also eventually developed into human forms with anger issues.
@@theleanbusinessman5431oh hell nah 😂
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Nanomachines, son.
I believe that if you watch that episode with reese again, you will figure out what I did, the planet they found her on was one colonized by preascended, and reese was and experiment of her "Fathers", that got out of hand even for them. A race of transplanted humans could not have gotten that far advanced. When the episode was made we did not know too much about the gate builders yet. The tolans were the most advanced humans who had come from earth eons ago, because they had no dark ages.
One of the Ancients came back to Milky Way and continued the experiments on replicators. He created the human-form replicator/android called Reese. She on the other hand created Milky Way replicators.
It doesn't matter if they were Ori or Alteran, the Ancients were pricks.
Wait what??!?
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The Alterans never cleaned up after themselves, leaving extremely dangerous technologies pretty much everywhere for just anyone to blow themselves up with, and it's obvious due to how they treated the Asurians that they had no regard for sentient life in any form apart from themselves.
I prefer the other version of their creation...
The Hot Black Chick from SG1
I feel like the best solution would be to ask the replicators for one of the many copies of the city they have, move all the human stuff onto it, then give them the original to destroy. Bam, no problem.
Was thinking the same thing.
That blond one gets jettisoned out of a ship and since he is a machine, he doesnt suffocate from lack of oxygen in the atmosphere or freeze. He just nonchalantly and patiently floats through space with a creepy look on a face, knowing that he will eventually reach his destination.
So the Ancients basically wanted to create a mass of more controllable Milky Way type Replicators to fight the Wraith.
It was only suggested that Reese's creator was an ancient. It was never stated that they knew her creator was an ancient.
MrCommentz, what you say is partially true, but Reese was created by an Ancient. She was based on the same technology. So she could also replicate and create blocks from metal. She created the milky-way replicators, which eventually created human kind replicators. So it does fit in the story.
THANK YOU! my thoughts exacly
The ancients are much older than the Asgard. They occupied and populated vast amounts of galaxies. It would be impossible to gather/destroy all their technologies.
i love this episode!
Don't forget that, the Atlantis expedition reactivated the Asurans, they would have remained on their homeworld, doing nothing. The Ancients wanted to destroy the replicators because they knew how dangerous they can be.
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Pity the Ancients never learned to grow wiser before they made all these messes.
They had the smarts to play god, but not the wisdom to refrain from doing so and causing so many problems for others.
They were like children playing with toys of technology. Heedless, thoughtless, and irresponsible.
A lesson lost on most humans too.
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They were ahead looking forward. We are behind looking at what they chose to abandon.
The Replicators' origin story is almost similar to The White Walkers' origin story in Game of Thrones.
You could say the the replicators in sg1 where the weapon that the ancients had desired to fight against the wraith. I mean those bug form replicators were the perfect weapon against any technologically advance civilization. capable of assimilating tech they come across and then improving its capabilities beyond it original function. On top of that they are able to replicate exponentially having overwhelming numbers.
i totally agree with u Mosh, and i love that episode, especially when Sheppard is like whats take to kill this guy :)
veryveryveryveryvery gooooood video
@BuuZeroC Asurans are Replicators, the originals also took on a human form, they just did it in a different manner, these Replicators were designed to kill Wrath and become the most advanced form they could take, thus why they resemble Ancients. The "original" Replicators were an accident made from toys.
Reese was made by an Ancient....that's why she had the power to make the replicator "bugs"
Who?
@@theleanbusinessman5431 Reese, the person/android responsible for the Milky Way replicators
I get this odd feeling that maybe the Ancients weren't that nice guys
My feeling of ancients is this: imagine the most arrogant, intelligent and narcissistic person you know. And that's your average Ancient. Oh yeah and they were either a light dictatorship or strongly aristocratic society.
They were very irresponsible, that's for sure
What I don't understand is if the Ancients wanted to annihilate the Replicators they created, why did they have to decimate an entire planet? To me that seems pretty wasteful given how they could just use replicator disruptors without causing such wholesale destruction. Unless of course this was before they invented them but surely there has to be better ways than this.
+Krinkut Origiona The ancients dint anticipate the nanites to evolve to human form, they wanted to use it microscopically. At the time i believe they dint have any kind of shutdown sequence, or developed any, and only the wraith knew how. The asurans were probably destroyed for suggesting the destruction of the human population as a means to fight the wraith.
Probably this image isn't what exactly happened. Just image so tiny human brains could comprehend Genocide Ancients commited.
Why not just program them to face the wraith purely in combat and nothing else, the asurans kick ass while the ancients do the ethics, a 60 million year old civilization that can't program, wtf.
They didn't really program replicators, they programmed self-replicating, intelligent nanovirus bots that evolved into replicators as a result of their persistent attempts to improve. The Asurans were an accident, and seemed too unpredictable in the long run to risk working with.
With regards to destroying them, it was a pretty cheap method at least, given that they had practically infinite power for their ships, and it took millenia for the Asurans to recover (and still without the ability to actually do anything, so they could always do it again later when they did eventually recover).
Presumably they didn't want to make them vulnerable to some of the smarter Wraith, since they've proven adept at working with viruses and machine coding anyways; as a result, they might have a base code that's too difficult to tamper with effectively.
Wow! I guess it their version of "No Fate for what we make."
That was the Replicators of the Ida/Milky Way Galaxies. This is the story of the creation of the Pegasus Galaxy Replicators (aka Asurans).
3:26 "Oohh your hand in freezing"
What?
I might have taken the aggression programming down a notch or two after dealing with the wraith to a point of making reasonable negotiations that benefits both.
cool!
Is it just me or did the various _Stargate_ series each express an anti-robot/android/AI sentiment? With the exception of Daniel Jackson, I can't remember *anyone* pushing back against the "It's just a machine." argument.
Wraith>Ancients>Replicators>Everything
What I never understood is why they did not just ask the expedition team to delete their anger routines. I mean, they possess Atlantis, so they must be able to do that.
No, rather that the Replicators didn't ask the expedition team to do it. I mean, they admitted they hated their anger subroutine, and given that they're smart machines, why not take the chance to delete it?
True, but still. Bit of a plot hole there
Didn't the Wraith already found a way to forego the aggressive programming? Wasn't that why they were no long at war with the Wraith until McKay reactivated it?
*****
Ok how is it that the replicators had 10,000 years to find a way to get rid of this code and couldn't find a solution despite all their advanced technology and intelligence. Yet McKay was able to override this program with 21st century computer hardware.
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Well then they're even more incompetent than the Ancients.
You know what I wonder what the series would be like if humanity did start fighting the ancients
Humanity is Ancients.
Just look at how many ships the Ancients used to destroy the replicators... This must have been relatively early on in the war for them to still have that many ships readily available and not out fighting the Wraith
Their ships stood no change against wraith motherships and cruisers. Most likely they weren't even introduced into any fights.
I can't comprehend it. The most advanced race that a species could evolve to and they couldn't make proper shields. And their weapons based on slow drones instead of powerful beam weapons that could cripple enemies in matter of seconds.
Actually, we can't comprehend real production capabilites of spacefaring civilization. Wraith ships grew like live creatures from seeds, they could create millions of cruisers from one planet...
Although, this this show is outdated (and has some logical mistakes), Ancients would produce automated ships on automated factories too...
It's like difference between us with factories and Stone Age primitives with, well, stones...
YES.... IT DOES!
Low-key, I'm wondering if these beings exist in some capacity within our world
Daddy issues do cause all kinds of messy problems. 😂
@Jmaul85 "Leave no trace behind" Killing the Replicators leaves the enormous city of awesome behind.
Those with crazy abilities like merlin.
@Morristownsux That's from the SGA S03E05 - 'Progeny'
The replicators are the Borg secret weapon to invade the A quadrant !
Hallowed are we... Hallowed are the Ori
It still makes no sense to destroy a city where the Ancients no longer are.
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What if the SGA agreed to remove this aggression program in favor of a more protective and constructive one. How would the story change and what would be the result?
the name of our story is D.A.R.Y.L., the ancients chose to destroy us because we would not become the weapon that they wished to have, we seek the one who stayed behind
they need to feed, either on the alterans or humans, but It would be very diffcult to restrain a alteran...
The ancients were highly evolved. Not perfect.
Bruh they were so dumb, how hard could it have been to be like, hey you guys, y’all got our tech and population, go kick some wraith butt
@@trashedtrailers1041 what?
Not evolved. They were technologically advanced compared to us Terrans.
The evolved ones were those that ascended and yet, those weren’t that much more evolved.
@@MrAudienceMember2662015 Another comment that makes.....no sense. In what way were they not highly evolved? Compared to?
@@MrAudienceMember2662015 Bruuuuuhhh
No because in the episode The Defiant one the wraith explains that he had fed upon countless humans, alterans and Wraith alike
So they had a beef with the ancients. Were any ancients living on Atlantis, I could understand them wanting to destroy it. But seeing as there were no ancients living there, destroying it would be pointless as no wrong doers would be punished by that action. Building a weapon that could dissipate energy, thereby killing ascended beings would be more profitable.
Agression...
but if there were ancients living there then they could do nothing, they had a program in them that stopped them from harming ancients
Well, until Mckay messed with their code
I realize you wrote this comment two years ago so mine might be irrelevant. However the Asurans (Pegasus galaxy replicators) were jealous of the Earthlings because the earthlings were seen as the Ancient's "favorite child". If you understand what I mean.
what episode is this? I was thinking it was in season 3
These ones are meaner than the ones in the milkey way
Here I would have asked, Sure can we have this city ship instead?
Creators can end their own inventions!
what episode is it from plz!!!
and we call the replicators monsters
Technically, we call the milky way ones monsters. We call these ones I don't know but, probably not monsters.
it would've been crazy if these replicators evolved past human, since they were the only evolved form they 'knew of'. (i guess ascension counts, tho)
Mark 4:22 “For there is nothing covered that shall not be revealed, and nothing secret that will not be discovered.”
The irony of following stone-age religions, after watching a series with space-age religions.
I am not a replicator, technology, or a clone.
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Is that the man who you held prisoner and stole the information from? And is the 1 holding him prisoner another Jonathan hibbert
... the light ist right - Tyndall Effects.
Remember before the incredibly contrived and undeservedly OP Wraith were added to the story and villains actually had meaning? We could say the Asgard were OP but they were mostly neutral until the Replicators drove them to extinction/suicide. But those replicators would have never been in the Milky Way if not for the Ancients and the Ancients would not have developed them if not for the Wraith with their absurd abilities. Had the Ancients retooled from exploration to war even just long enough to defeat the Wraith, they wouldn't have needed the Replicators at all. But, even if they still made them, they could have then removed their aggression since the Wraith threat would be gone. In the end, the true villain in all of this are the writers. I love the concept of and the show of Star Gate overall but there were some bad plot holes and writing in the show at times.
That doesn't explain why they'd attack Atlantis NOW.
I disagree, they were beaten easier than the block replicators. Also the human form replicators that were with the block replicators were bullet proof. The Asurans were not which makes the block replicators stronger because they created human form replicators that were bullet proof.
10,000 years ago: The Ancients had technology that was better, then The federation in Star Trek. When they left for earth after protecting their city at the bottom of the ocean, They united with the newly evolved Humans causing the Myth of a city that sank to the bottom of the ocean. Daniel Jackson (in StarGate SG-1 discovered that an extra code was required to go to Atlantis. In the movie that was about 10 years ago!
I remember from that episode in Stargate Universe they'd mentioned that a SUPERIOR being or Race managed to create a planet just like that. (Snap of a finger) who were they talking about?
They did not specify a particular race in SGU that created the planet. The humans aboard Destiny claimed that because Destiny was not aware of the location of this planet and it did not have a Stargate (which would naturally have been placed there by the seeding ships if it were a natural planet), that it must be an artificial planet. As a result, they surmised that an incredibly powerful race using incredibly advanced technology must have just designed and built the planet, but since there were no markers saying "built by X", they could not say who did it.
True, but it still bugs me that I am left in the dark since I guess producers decided or thought that ending the show was in there best interest.
I apologize, I meant "their"..
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I do not believe that they were ever even planning to revisit that mystery. It looked to me like a one-off episode in much the same way that many SG-1 and SGA episodes were one-offs with a random species or planet that provided interesting materials or questions, but were never mentioned again.
James Kapahua because people were too stupid to understand a masterpiece like SGU . That is why those human beings watch mindless sex , murder , teenage tv shows . So dont be surprised for the low watch ratings when producers cancelled the show . Also there were supposed to be another atlantis season but got cancelled too . As a stargate fan , I was very happy for seeing deadlier and realistic aliens in universe . Those blue aquatic aliens and the ones in the forest episode where those small things killed everyone on the planet . Was it alternative timeline ? Universe has the darkest atmosphere . Sg1 and atlantis have this cheerful tone . Both are about aliens while universe is about people in destiny .
I thought that was because they needed to feed on the Alterans.
episode no. ?
The gates could of done with gene activation like other technology they had..Would have limited the use big time
I just dont get it man, they could have told the replicators : "Okay please allow us to leave atlantis before you destroy it, we have no reason to fight you, in fact if you need assistance with removing the aggressive protocol Dr Mckay or any of our scientists can assist, but please allow us to leave the city, we want no aggression or war with you".
Well you how the saying goes"there only human"
Where only human?
Ancient very cruel things
why did the ancients even give the nanites a personality, it just complicates things
Two groups of replicators? One in each galaxy? One created by the Android Reese another made by the Ancients????
no. you're the machine. be alive sucks, so be happy for that. ;)
i thought reese created the Replicators in season 5 episode 19 where she made them as a toy and they attacked the people of her planet
The original sin. Disclosure TV. Humanity, innocent, is still paying for it.
I bet the alternans deactivated them destroyed them, and then the wrath came along and reactivated them.. hopping to steal the alternans knowledge that they have..
I would like a subtitle.
@jackjones1066 i personally would go with the replicators, but i only recently started watching doctor who.
The construct speak to us through our artistic creation dont you see this ?
So if the "Ancients" created the replacaters then why did SG-1 say it was Rees?
I think Stargate introduced the replicators in a very confusing way, it's either that or I'm the one confused between both kinds of replicators:
1- in SG-1, the replicators are introduced as a bug-like species, they are fast to replicate, able to assimilate any technology for their own purpose, and if not destroyed within far distance: easy to infect other ships.
2- Later, in one episode, the Asgard were able to trap the replicators in a time bubble, slowing them down and preventing them from leaving it, the replicators used that time to evolve into a human form and are much more powerful, later, the Galaxy were able to defeat the replicators under the leadership of Carter's replica (using the weapon on Dakkara), permanently ending their threat in the Milky Way Galaxy.
3- Again, the replicators show up on the Pegasus Galaxy, yet somehow they are in human form, and they don't use infection to replicate within the enemy's environment, and the question is: why ??? if the replicators in the Pegasus galaxy have the same origin of the replicators in the Milky way galaxy then doesn't that mean that they should appear as the original Bug-like species? the only ones who evolved to look like humans were the ones in the Milky Way, so how did the ones in the Pegasus Galaxy evolve as such ?
Also, and it's important to repeat that question again: why don't the replicators on the Pegasus galaxy have the ability to infect & replicate ??
They don´t have the same orign.
The replicator in Pegasus and the replicator in Ida are from different creators.
The replicator at Pegasus are created by the Lanteans to figth the wraith,the replicator in Ida are created by a Android as a toy.
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But did we ever find out what the Android was created for? It can't *just* be a Boba Fett situation.
A Scientist created the android just because he can.
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"Well they might not have made their reasons known to you, Teal'c. After all, you are just a Jaffa." - Jolinar of Malkshur.
The way I always saw it, the Ancients made the Pegasus Replicators, then the Ancients left the Pegasus galaxy, but they did keep some of the research and technology. Ancient technology was then found, and without fully understanding the technology the replicators were recreated.
wasn't the origin of the replicators that 'girl' they found in the SG1 series?
They were different Replicators.
The writers of the show just weren't being very original.
they were different from the replicators in the milky way galaxy.
i'm sorry
@Pelor188
they had no right, they're not people you know, just machines
these are the asura
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the ancients should've used them to create new ships and then sent them out to fight the wraith, surely they would've been able to win the war then
as ascended it shouldn't take them much time. also we can see here that older doesn't mean brighter fairer or better. Even after they left this plane of existence the ancients continued to punish other races of this plane for using the technology they left behind.(Ascension-sg1-s5ep3). Imposining their own laws in the lower plane, on races who know nothing about it. if they can do that, they can clean their messes up, without any problem