HOW TO Stealth Attack, Steal, and Surprise in Baldur's Gate 3
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In this video, we go over how to Stealth Attack, what obscure means, how to steal from NPCs, how to get the Surprise Round or Ambush in my comprehensive breakdown on HOW TO Stealth Attack, Steal, and Surprise in Baldur's Gate 3
0:00 Intro & TL;DW
1:48 How to Sneak
5:02 Best Method for Stealing
8:57 How to Ambush/Surprise
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Worth remembering that simply getting one of your characters to stand within 5feet (1.5m) of a target enables your Rogue to utilise sneak attack. This is irrespective of whether your rogue is in stealth mode or not.
(As long as you don't have disadvantage on the attack roll--unless Larian threw that caveat out.)
A cool thing about it, you can use an invisible summon like tricksters mage hand or pact of the chain for guaranteed stealth attacks. Since they are invisible and never trigger combat, they can walk next to any enemy with no walk distance restriction.
@@justkillgamez1882 You can make attack rolls with Mage Hand?
@@JJ-qo7th I’m saying you can trigger stealth attacks without the rogue needing to hide, by having the mage hand simply stand next to your target. Mage hand does do like, 1 damage.
@@JJ-qo7thyou are correct. They did make that still correct in the game.
In the first 35 seconds you made stealth make sense to me, didn’t know you could hold shift to see enemy vision and always burned my sneak action
Something helpful to know about cones of vision, darker red means you have to do a stealth check while a brighter red means you are seen as clear as day, kicking you out of stealth.
3:40 Shows it off well, I’m pretty sure dark vision is important, so that’s why the goblins cone is so bright even when looking into the dark.
Edit: It’s sometimes really hard to tell between the reds with different coloured ground
This is my number 1 complaint with stealth. The difference is so subtle I swear I’ve never even been able to see the difference, and been frustrated every time I immediately get booted out of a hide action. Larian needs to rework this aspect of stealth/hiding.
I agree, just make it orange or yellow if they are going to kick you out of stealth.
I also cannot see the difference and seen to always get caught even with a stealth bonus of 12-15. how can you possibly sneak all the way into the center of the Steel Watcher factory?
didn't even notice there were 2 areas till u mentioned it
My first playthrough has been mostly sneaking with Astarion so already knew these tricks. Some things that also help:
- using minor illusion is a great way of making other NPCs turn around. If you're talking with a vendor, they won't be triggered by the illusion so you can easily have them isolated for stealing.
- Minor illusion, with a lot of patience and skill, can also be used to isolate non-hostile NPCs to allow for a quiet assassination. Very useful in areas such as the goblin camp, moonrise tower or rivington. The trick is to use it again after the NPC has said something about the illusion so they get taunted by your next iteration.
- If you manage to start a fight with someone isolated and stun them they won't trigger alarms. I managed to kill one of the steel guardians without it even responding to my attacks.
- Remember to hide your corpses. Other NPCs may accuse you of murder if they see them.
- Travelling back to camp is a great way to let things get calm again.
How do hide corpses
@@ssosso79 pick them up and take them elsewhere
@@danielalvarezberdugo1622 didn't know you could pocket bodies
@@ssosso79 they're heavy but at least a few patches ago you could. Haven't played in a while
@@ssosso79Depending on their weight, and how much carrying capacity you have, you can right-click on a corpse and “pick up” from the menu. That places them into your inventory. From there you can place them into any type of container: chest, pouch, and my favorite the fish bucket. You must open the container first and drag the body/ies to the window.
Once in a container you can send it to camp. From the camp chest you can open any other container and drag the body/ies between open container windows to stockpile corpses. Ray of Frost will turn blood on the ground to water, after it thaws out in a few turns. However a blood pool doesn’t seem to trigger NPCs.
I will not be answering any questions… 🫣☠️🤫
Finally! A straight to the point video that explains the stealth system from A to Z. Thanks, that was SO helpful 🙏
I like using my assassin to pick off all the low health mobs, one shot, cunning hide and often running away to camp. Then, when it is just the big mobs left, we charge in and splat them. I can also use CC spells like Tasha's laughter to make sure that I don't take damage from the few big guys that are left.
Another great video! I really like your presentation style, and how clear and concise your delivery is concerning the topic. Thanks.
This has to be the 5th video I watched of yours randomly searching for bg3 topics. Subbed
Playing my first ranged play-through, Rogue w/ Assassin subclass. This was very helpful! And it seems with recent patches the Assassin traits work now.
Great video, just started my first play through, and I always play as a rogue / assassin first. This vid is very useful. Thanks.
Watched a lot of your content. Upfronting info (and it being great info) is very much appreciated. Subbed!
Vary comprehensive guide thanks! Exactly what I was looking for.
Thank you for this. Just bought the game with no prior experience with anything related to dnd. I wanted to make a sneaky illusionist wizard as my first playthrough.
Thank you. Learned some new things and was reminded of the little things ❤
Thank you this was really helpful. I've had some ambushes go wrong cause when combat had started, some of my characters were still hidden and they didn't get on the combat log so they would all lose their turn.
thanks dude i been waiting on this ❤
Just started as a rogue, having a blast and will probably do gloomstalker like you’ve mentioned in a previous video. Perfect timing!
I have a build for that too! Happy to help my bro
Thank you for always upfronting your info ❤️😊
I spent like an hour testing stealth/surprise mechanics a few days ago because the whole thing was just baffling and inconsistent to me. TL:DR if you're trying to get a Surprise round, for the love of god people, CROUCH FIRST, then turn on turn based mode (this way you don't have to wait the full round to get your actions back before you attack), THEN attack.
If you attack without being crouched, even from a blind spot, it very consistently wouldn't activate a surprise round for some reason. But when I crouched first it would almost ALWAYS do it. Having turn based mode on seemed to make it near 100% consistent too but I have no idea why.
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Also if you want to end a fight while in stealth/invis/etc but don't want to run away and go back to camp to end the fight for whatever reason, sometimes enemies will end the combat encounter the first time they can't find you. But a lot of the time they'll keep the fight going. I found that intentionally putting myself back into their detection radius then PASSING the check to reveal would usually end the combat if they didn't find me (obviously when my character failed the check they'd get revealed and the fight would keep going), so if the AI starts acting stupid but the combat won't end, you can try that too.
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And finally, the thing that's rolled to see if they detect you or not when you're hiding/invis mid combat and they're trying to reveal you is a Dex save (I think), NOT a Stealth check. Stealth check is for just staying out of sight in general, dex save when someone is actively using an action or whatever to try and reveal you. I learned the hard way that constantly rolling 30+ stealth checks from Pass Without A Trace wasn't doing anything to keep me from being revealed that way.
EDIT: All of this was tested on patch 3. Patch 4 just came out, I didn't see anything in it that would make me think the mechanics have changed in any way, but maybe there's something I missed in there.
I dont think it is a Dex saving throw. Just stealh checks as always, but havent checked yet
Another bit of note to add is that if you one-shot an enemy the other enemies won't get surprised, however if you only damage the first enemy you likely will surprise the whole group.
There are some instances where they don't get surprised either way and there I believe that it's got to do with the proximity of the enemies to each other (specifically if the targeted enemy can be seen by the others). I tried to do a bit testing, but it still seems a little inconsistent to me during some encounters. Generally though, performing a stealth attack on your enemy but not killing them will get the surprise does land.
Love your content! Keep up the great work
I needed this, thank you. I'm new to the genre.
Looking to try my hand at a Rogue character after seeing how strong Astarian was in my early campaign tests.
Thanks for the info. This will definitely make sneaking through areas a lot less stressful.
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This video gave me an idea to try. I'm going to see if I can use the dressing screens that are sometimes found in bedrooms to block npc lines of sight. That might be the closest thing to the old bucket on head trick.
Thank you for the info ❤❤❤
Not sure if this got patched or not in the recent update but if you initiate conversation with someone then switch to another character you can hold person on the person you want to steal from for infinite time to steal, you can even split gold in their inventory to make the chances better
Sick stealing combo I do is have some play music, then run around and steal everything. Worked well for stealing the idol in the grove as well.
Oh wow, you read my mind - I was curious about surprised mechanics as I do my next playthrough. Thank you very much.
As always love your work thank you
Thank you so much man!
@@italianspartacussuper concise, personable guy, smooth as butter voice. Love you man! 😊
Thanks for the quality content as always 🙌
Great video, thanks!
By initiating combat with only one party member, while the other three hang back where they are still unseen, you can initiate a stealth attack with each member of your party separately. Just remember to take control of your other party members when its your turn and youll be able to take control and make a new stealth attack (you may not be using an actual "sneak attack" but youll still get advantage and the first strike) Then just do it again for each memeber of your party. I start fights like this whenever possible
good explainer on surprise and stealth. this is one of the reasons why assassins are one of the best classes in the game.
i think something worth mentioning here for stealthers are items that shed light/put you in clear light.
Solid video
Thanks for the video
I got less than a minute into this video and already learned something, that I can see people's view by holding shift. All this time, I thought you could only see someone's view by sneaking, so I was just guessing and sometimes would waste a turn in combat sneaking somewhere where someone could see me. I've put quite a bit of time into this game and hadn't done a lot of stealth, so that's why I'm watching this video. I'm wanting to do a stealthy character (a gloomstalker hunter/assassin rogue) and was very bad a sneaking around. I'm hoping this video will help me sneak better.
Bro SAAAAME
I pretty much never use turn based mode. Turns out I should. Especially when I'm doing an evil run to make the most of stealing EVERYTHING
So helpful!
Glad you think so!
Good grief! I had no idea until watching this video that you could press shift to check vision cones. Also, I never thought to use turn-based mode for misdemeanor stealing. All this time I've been so stressed out, grinding my teeth during the infuriatingly languid dice throw and subsequent additions of eternal bonuses while rolling for a lockpicking check in the vicinity of a moving sentry. Because of that, I figured out that you can trap non-hostile sentries with your other characters simply by blocking their path. Maybe useful cheese for something else, but now rendered unnecessary! Thank you for the enlightenment! I'm such a dummy!
U get my sub for having a TL/DW
Super helpful. Reviewed again for my second playthrough now. Still don't have the mechanics of surprise completely down though. Like when a whole town is hostile to me I dont think i can get surprise anymore maybe?
I generally steal scrolls and convert them to cash in order to buy the stuff thats too heavy to steal reliably ... then I steal the scrolls back. 😂
I have a pouch with about 75 assorted scrolls that my party shares in combat and while thieving.
Nice, thanks.
Thanks!!
I'm lv 3 n not familiar with these games... so absolutely nothing is Straight Forward for me right now. Any n all advice is greatly appreciated. I'm pretty lost.
I laughed like a loon when you pronounced Brazier like Brassiere, so witty! 🤣
I felt that critical miss in my soul
If you have a fighter or tank next to the target you try to kill you get an advantage in stealth meaning you can do extra damage with stealth attacks ranged or melee do not sleep on posions or other buffs before combat.
None of this works if you enter into an area where some event has already happened in the game to trigger all the enemies to be hostile to your presence, no matter how good your stealth skills are. All enemies immediately initiate combat mode even though you have not failed a stealth check and none of them spotted you.
invisibility lets you get the drop on them still
Yep its useless, like all the major fights for example in the greyforge, you are literally surrounded by everyone, how the fuck are you gonna stealth that?
Lol 3:13 don't touch my brassiere 😂
The comment I was looking for 😂
My gosh. I’ve got almost 100 hours in this game. I’ve been so frustrated with stealth. I had no idea until now turning off lights and putting out fires helps.
I’m a dummy.
I've been using fog to steal lol
How do you avoid going into dialogue after attacking from stealth - ie "you attacked a guard,: go to jail, persuasion check, or bribe .."
Kill them and make sure nobody else sees you. And even then, it still may happen because a Goblin really far away technically had line of sight on you through a crack in the wall.
Pretty sure this just got patched. Waiting for all my mods to update before I test myself.
I wish people knew how to properly pronounce brazier and melee. :p still love the content
Thanks, Im still fairly early. The thing I am slightly confused about is, whenever I have tried to sneak up to someone, spent some time setting up an ambush, its broken out into a cut scene/dialogue when I get close enough. Are those moments just unavoidable ?
I'm a beginner and the problem with stealth is, when I get into key fights, my gloomstalker is in the middle of everything, and there's no way for me to hide/stealth.
Have your mage cast invisibility on them or drink an invisible potion. Also there are a few items that give invisibility
If you do one-shot an enemy with an ambush attack do other nearby enemies not get alerted? And what if you don't one-shot him but you use silence beforehand?
wow, can’t believe I’ve played almost 200hrs and only just realized how the obscured and stealth roll mechanics worked 😅
that little sun/moon icon is definitely never explained in game, so thanks for pointing that out!
It is explained in a tutorial
I am still confused on this: does being outside the sight cone count as hidden for the purpose of triggering surprise? Does it matter if you hide first even if you don’t have to hide to remain unseen?
Most internet postings seem confused about this and the wiki isn’t totally clear. But the wiki language suggests that you have to hide first but it doesn’t matter if you need to hide to be unseen. in other words you don’t have to do a stealth check to induce surprise.
I cannot tell from the gameplay alone how this works.
Re: timestamp 3:20
A brazier ("bray" "zee" "er") is a large metal container to burn coal etc.
A brassiere as you pronounce it is an item of female clothing for storing breasts.
These two things should most certainly not be confused 👍
How do you do the shift thing if your on console
Shenanigans.
Use fog clouds and any disguise I use the helmet from early access you can put it on your party yes you don't have to be wearing it for it to retain the spell then mug the trader and switch your passive on ITS MUGIN TIME!
A brahssier is a woman’s support garment.
A brehzier is a fire holding furniture
Correct me if I’m wrong but wasn’t there an issue with assassin. Since they’re not surprised yet so your sneak attack from your first attack doesn’t double dice?
Yes. It's absolutely obnoxious. I attacked a guy from stealth - no assassin crit - and then they went before me and were never surprised. Makes the entire subclass / build pointless.
they fixed it in patch 5, assassins used to not get their action back on the start of combat, but now it works like it should. You still won’t get auto crits on the first guy you shoot (combat starts after they take damage, so they can’t have the surprised condition) but the surprise round will all crit. If you have Extra Attack from something like Ranger 5, then you sometimes also get the second attack from that in the surprise round as well, meaning you can make up to 4 auto crits at the start of combat, and upwards from there if you use haste/bloodlust
it’s absolutely crucial to get the Alert feat ASAP (or elixir of vigilance in the early game so you can grab sharpshooter) so you always go first, or the Assassin’s ambush will be wasted as the surprise condition expires for any enemy that goes before you.
currently playing an assassin on solo tactician and I just got done murdering everyone in moonrise tower that isn’t a vendor. stealth is crazy strong now!
@@InvaderTroy I didn’t have that problem in patch four or three. The problem I had was the first attack doesn’t count as a Crit. Which means none of those D6s get doubled, and since some fights auto remove the surprise condition (if they were an encounter like the goblin checkpoint you’re still being robbed a round of double d6s.
Which means the only way to get well anything out of your assassin trait/sneak attack is to never use the sneak attack button and turn on ask every time. And I know even in patch five if you don’t always get a sneak attack when you don’t used to sneak attack button some reason, maybe that’s just a bug on my end.
What is the shift key equivalent for the ps5?
R3 or clicking the right stick.
Here is my comment for excellence.
I hope someone comes up with a mod that stops your character from running around walls, climbing on stacks of crates, circling around tables, and in general acting like a circus monkey in order to open a crate directly in front of you. Let me guess... turn-based mode?
Nope. The game seems to have very odd pathing AI for picking stuff up. Since picking an item up is a free action, but takes movement, it seems to go out of its way to use up that movement.
Brassieres ? 🤣
Yeah, I'm lost in the first 30 seconds. Does not EACH ENEMY have a different 'vision cone' (what they can see) based on how close they are to your stealth character, what direction they are currently facing, and various other factors??????? And if Each Enemy has a unique "vision cone," then what precisely is that red blotch telling me?
so sneak attack doesn't cause surprise>
3:14 it's BR-A-zhe-ers, a BRA-zeer is the long name for a bra
shift? im a console player
R3
3:14 FYI, that was a hilarious mispronounciation of the word "braziers". The word you actually pronounced is a term for a womans bra.
P.S. A quick Google search can reveal the proper pronounciation.
Cries harder in Xbox 😭
Why? Game wil come soon to xbone
@@sneakyturtle3257 not soon enough
@@mejudgega true, but they are try to release it this year. So lets hope you and other xbox players can play it very soon
@mejudgega better to get it right. Tbh than release a broken mess
@@ethanpeeples6187 no shit. Doesn’t make me any more patient.
Brazier is pronounced bray-zhr. Brassiere is the long form word for bra lol