Cenk Uygur vs Ben Shapiro LIVE at Politicon 2017
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- Опубліковано 29 лип 2017
- Progressive superstar Cenk Uygur takes on conservative Ben Shapiro in a battle of wits, facts, and persuasion across politics, culture and current events!
Moderator: Steve Olikara
Panelists: Cenk Uygur, Ben Shapiro
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Imagine putting your own murder on UA-cam
Dear lord i love the youtube comments. Always sums up exactly what I'm thinking but cant put into words.
Dan north OMG 😂 This made my morning.
@Donald Trump lmfao ya ok he lost a debate with a toad who couldnt use a single fact..... explain to me one thing he said that destroyed Shapiro.... please i welcome it....Cenk literally says random shit that doesn't even make any sense.....give me one just one example of Shapiro being owned.....I'm waiting...
@Donald Trump with 0 examples even with context.... yet he totally ignores politicians taking bribery for years..not only ignoring them but supporting them... which means he helped prove himself an idiot.....btw that wasn't even a point of contention Shapiro didnt even argue that.... I'm waiting for a single example of Cenk owning Ben, I mean the video is right there almost 4 hours of not owning shit........
@Donald Trump btw ask Cenk why he named his tv show after turks from the ottoman empire who left after the destruction they caused renaming themselves the young turks then carried out the armenian genocide.....
This is like underground battle rap for politics.
Darryl Harden lmao
Lol, perfect analogy.
Darryl Harden -isnt a battle supposed to be competitive?
Darryl Harden ya and Shapiro is B-rabbit
And if you knew anything about battle rap there’s a huge difference between winning in the building and winning on cam
I thought I had the playback speed set to 1.5, but then I realized it was just Ben Shapiro talking.
Hahaha yeah, he is a machine gun.
When your opponent can't keep up, you outrun them.
Dude thinks talking faster means he’s winning
Jessica Buchanan no he thinks faster too lol
@@jessicabuchanan1392 cenk didn't stand a chance.
I have to give the young turcks credit for posting this.
The young trucks
@@seshtilirest4748 comedy
Only credit they deserve
You should learn how to better your spelling. Young Turks* I give you no credit you can't spell.
@@seshtilirest4748 comedy gold
I started TYT with a small loan of 4 million dollars.
Turkish Prostitute lol
LMAO the bacon background.
That name is so perfect 😂😂
Anyone else noticed Cenk walked out on stage with a stack of papers and reading it off during the debate?
Cenk cheated and stilled lost... lol
Turkish Prostitute Thanks for adding to the view count.
Shapiro is such a hypocrite. Claims to be pro life... goes on an aimbot assisted kill streak everytime he's handed a mic.
Nuancense this is my favorite
This is honestly one of the best comments I have seen lol. And as far as I see it's the only original joke on here.
Nuancense haha
Nuancense omg perfect comment
Now that is original!
Wonder why cenk hasn’t debated Ben since...
Because ben took a break on certain people lol
I wonder why ben hasn't debated Cenk since.
He should he’d wreck Ben again
Jaden Wiley To each their own
@@charlieduckenfield9186 cenk obviously lost lol
the crowd cheering like they actually know what these guys are talking about
They treat it like it's a sports game rather than a debate of ideas
@@yao052 not hard to do considering how dumb the average lib is.
@@yao052 what makes you think that guy is conservative, nothing in his comment is conservative or implys conservative beliefs
Funny you place yourself above them when you're just like them
Niki Bronson 8 months later, nice comeback
A Jew roasting an Armenian genocide denier. How poetic.
get this man a gold star.. pun much intended
lol
This comment made me die 😂😂😂🤣👍
Ironically Shapiro denies both the Israeli genocide & illegal seven-decade-long occupation in Palestine, as well as Trump funding the Saudi genocide of Yemen.
Ironically you keep using that word, I don't think it means what you think it means
>GOOGLE IT
>YOURE UNEDUCATED
>SOUTHERN STRATEGY
>USA USA USA
this was so embarrassing for Cenk
You missed one @27:56
>TRY TO FOLLOW ALONG
how so we why do u want to celebrate lack of education
thats the problem celebrating stupidity , whats embarrasing is booing him for making a valid point and not understanding the point
tendai ndoro point wasn't valid.
PS3pwns
What's so embarrassing
All facts
The best views TYT get are when their getting roasted.
Ben isn't smart enough to roast anybody. He was super incoherent talking about how giving money to goverment is the same as giving money to a business, not even a high school student would say such a retarded thing.
Grass Hopper His business is politics
@@grasshopper3085 The government is a business, and is not immune to tyranny.
Grass Hopper smarter than you, it seems
@@grasshopper3085 seems you can't spot a roast with a bullseye on it. Xmas must be boring buddy 😂
"Cenk Uygur takes on conservative Ben Shapiro in a battle of wits"
Ben is fighting an unarmed man.
ah ah ah! you forgot to add “progressive superstar”, silly!
As an independent, I thought cenk held his own. To suggest Ben shapiro "destroyed" cenk is intellectually dishonest. They both made great points throughout the entirety of the debate.
"Cenk Uygur takes on conservative Ben Shapiro in a battle of wits"
I think you mean Ben Shapiro executes an unarmed man.
@@RandomHistory
Ben is only capable of destroying college kids. When he interviews with the big boys he embarrasses himself. Watch the interview with Andrew Neil.
@@floki5605 Ben's most famous moments were outside college
Watch his debate with Cenk Uyghur.
TYT needs to remove this. Reported for gore and cruelty to a sweaty water buffalo.
+Matal Hey that's not very nice, Ben didn't do that bad!
Brion Foulke
I don't know man, if Ben can beat someone so bad that the opponent's channel 'loses' their livestream after Ben brings up a jaw-smacking point, I'd say it was that bad.
Brion Foulke Ben was cruel to pick on a guy half his IQ. This was brutal. Cenk thought this was his show where he could play with his own tone and sarcastically accuse his opponent via childish repetition. He effectively called Cenk and his show a hooker utilizing his own argument. Savage.
+Matal No I don't agree, I think it was a pretty even debate. Ben didn't actually do that well, and some of his points kind of fell flat. The same is true of Cenk, but he has his strong moments as well. The hooker comment was a nice zinger, but I don't think it had much meaning.
Brion Foulke Deep down, I expected a greater smack down than the performance that Shapiro put on. That said, even with my liberal hat on, I would say 50% of the debate went in Shapiro's favor, about 20 to Cenk with the remainder pretty even or going to neither. I just don't see the even score man. Cenk's message delivery falls apart as he tries to scrap together a coherent argument. His identity politics rebuttal is painful to watch. He screams "it's called America. Usa. Usa. Usa."
Cenk calls himself a progressive super star in the description. Wow.
Over Killa it's my freedumb to buy off the government waaaaah Ben shapiro 2017
Very humble of him, Lol
Doesnt Matter Exactly, IQ is genetic.
GOOFY LUCK cenk is a progressive idiot. (If you know what progressive slots are you'll understand my comment)
Kar stodes it was a joke
When you listen to Cenk on 2x speed and Ben on .5x speed.
Suddenly Bens points seem way more stupid, cuz they are.
@John Dough Sorry for having valid points
@John Dough You know it’s sad to see how bankrupt the right wing is of ideas, when they have to resort to ad hominem attacks
@John Dough First of all it's hilarious that you'll attack me for making a generalization and then generalize that minute percentage of BLM protests that turned violent as all liberals. Secondly I apologize for stereotyping you as right wing without knowing but I don't know that you can complain as you categorized me as a liberal which is something I don't identify as. Finally, Cenk insulting the crowd, was probably not the best way to win them over, has nothing to do with what we're talking about but if ya wanna talk about that I suppose we can.
@John Dough That's fine, just don't get pissy with me because I casually called you a right winger, when you just throw around political labels like confetti. Congratulations you like one democrat, I hate 95% of the politicians in DC and my political center isn't derived from saying nominally nice things about members of a party I should not like based on my beliefs.
Ben Shapiro is guilty
Of slaughtering a bison
You're delusional if you think ben won the debate
@@danteghazizadeh1656Objectively what in the hell criteria did Cenk satisfy that convinced you he won?
@@maninthewilderness3208 he gave good answers to all of Ben's strawmans and ben couldn't come up with good responses. Just because cenk talked loudly and got heated doesnt mean he lost
@@danteghazizadeh1656 dude you watched a different debate than the rest of us. Im not gonna say cenk got slaughtered, but he definitely didn't win!
@@TonyMontana-lh5bp explain how. Explain which policy ben beat cenk on.
Ben didn't use any lube in this debate, he raw dogged Cenk
“A fool takes no pleasure in understanding but only in expressing his opinion.” Proverbs 18:2
Ben Shapiro in a nut shell
@@koshka02 remind me which ones paid by a billionaire to be told what to think ?
@@BlankyLover9000 huh?
@@BlankyLover9000 We all get paid to think, you’re going to have to be more specific.
@@Luis_GonzaIez right wingers specifically get paid by billionaires to spread propaganda. lying is where all the money's at.
Ben destroyed you. That's the only reason I liked the video.
Lol 😂 me too
Wrong
Cenk destroyed Ben! Were we watching the same video? Wow reading thru these comments I’m shocked. I guess we all still hear what we want to hear. I thought Cenk kicked ass. Ben is smart but he came up with very poor rebuttals.
@@laralovesliam pls tell me the instances where Cenk "destroyed" Ben, I'd like to know.... go ahead I'm waiting....
@@keshavleitan7800 I think your talking to Cenks alt because there is no way they genuinely think this
ben destroyed cenk...I just dont get how cenk is so delusional, that he actually tried to debate Ben friggin Shapiro
Eclipse Thesun Shapiro has since embarrassed and discredited himself
Oh Poor Cenk, What an embarrassment
Embarrassing is shapiro who cant fully grasp the difference between a business loan, and bribing money in politics? 😂😂😂 u calll that a win because the crowd is stupid.
I like how Ben seems to have borderline personality disorder when it comes to debated points that are not all or nothing.
Cenk says "history tells us that a higher tax rate doesn't stifle economic growth"
Ben responds "well, then why don't we just make taxes 100%? Huh?"
Crazy.
Tuxedo Mask did you even watch the debate, Cenk got wrecked.
Yeah we get it, if you're left, Shapiro got killed, if you're a neocon, Cenk got burnt, what ever side you're own, you can jerk off to your opinion no matter what, the problem with that kind of idiotic behavior, is that you're not listening to both sides, you're jerking off in your echo chamber and that's what neocons do the best.
Cenk got his water buffalo ass handed to him... lol.
34:00 Wow! Cenk predicted Trump’s 2017 tax cuts.
Ten fold.
Yeah, I only donated 5 bucks and he slashed my taxes. Hell yeah
A lot of his predictions have come true...
Love how Ben just goes "okay" after Cenk barely acknowledges his handshake.
LOL Agreed. That guy has no business even being on the same stage as Ben.
He completely killed him.
I liked the part where Chenk said "for those who didn't follow you can google it' Felt pain from hearing that piece of shit pompous line.
WOW the literal exact same video on the daily wire has more views and is demonetized and this one is monetized. Is there UA-cam political bias hmmmmmmm i don’t know 🤷🏻♂️
*lilv728*
Maybe this was a problem 3 months ago, but it does have ads as of writing this comment. While I was checking though, I noticed that this video has about 10x more dislikes while having less total views, all of this despite them being the same video 🤷🏻♂️
Do more research...your sample size is a bit small...
@@Kyle_Schaff any video uploaded by chanel named after a genocidal movement would recive the same amount dislikes its nothing to be surprised about
richy koshy you cant even google and find the government on the first page. The Young Turk means to enact radical change in a group. This has nothing to do with the name, only miss-placed hate.
No tyt has four times as many subscribers dumbass
Ben! Stop. Wild buffaloes are endangered species. Google it!
Magnificent Cow bruh i saw your other comments all your comments are killing me.
you mean your COVFEFE haha
Did your comment "Another genocide for Cenk to deny" get deleted??? That was the best one
Bitches love crying over leftism 'till Russians soldiers start dragging mattresses out into the streets of Berlin.
hahahah best comment i've seen all year!!
When I’m sad I come and listen to this
Hey bro.
Lmao same. Ben is the best.
Me too homie
The Joker: Ben is not much smarter than Cenk, otherwise he would have pointed out Cenk's logical fallacies (which are ENDLESS).
Ben is just another right-wing radio jock, parroting the same tired neocon lines claiming a free market, when it's obviously under Cronyism.
Ben knows the trees, but misses the forest.
"My wife has to go through a thousand years of medical training" -Ben Shapiro
Is Ben Shapiro's wife a vampire?
Well, Ben is quite pastie. Lol
He exaggerates a lot, if not outright lies. Except when he tells the truth.
Insulting the audience makes you look *really* unprofessional.
The audience had their minds made up before these people even spoke. They weren’t laughing so hard once Cenk explained monetary circulation.
did you google it LMAO
Can't blame the guy when the audience can't keep up with simple logic.
Hahaha Simple logic? Because clearly any rational person would dogmatically agree with Keynesian economics and anyone purporting a different economic theory only does so because they're an idiot. Alrighty then. Clearly the Shapiro supporters are the only close minded ones ;)
Shapiro is a dick and his books suck.
he LITERALLY called himself "superstar" in the description...
We all know Cenk wrote that himself
R u surprised?
You don’t think a staff person wrote that description? I’d imagine writing captions is probably not part of Cenk’s regular duties.
We all know that he is deluded beyond redemption - he actually supported Obama.
He doesn't run the whole network, my friend. He has production staff and people who do all the posting the channel. I am 99 percent sure that he is not responsible for writing video descriptions. It is probably the person or people who edit the videos who post them and promote them.
“We were expecting 1000 people. There are 3000 people in this room.”
Ah, life before 2020.
The moderators facial expression when Ben went full on attack mode was legendary 51:07
Min Shapiro.
Search "young ben shapiro gets defeated by a punching bag"
A timestamp woulda made your comment legendary 😆👌🏼
@@elderlord5164 🤣🤣🤣
"Cenk won the debate. Don't believe me? Google it!!!"
-Cenk Uyger
Googled it and saw that he lost. BEN > cenk shit
"BenShapirowonbecausehetalksreallyfastandsaysthingsthattherightdoesn'tquestioneventhoughwhathearguesagasinstisoftenastrawman."
-Ben Shapiro
Tim Symons Ben never said that... Google it...
Shady ass Channel. They are deleting comments.
Cenk just admit that you are a Sore LOSER!
I agree Cenk won, because he spent the bulk of his time making his points and explaining them, whereas Ben spent much of his time asking Cenk questions.
TYT is probably gonna regret posting this.
Not likely, since self awareness and self - criticism doesn´t exist in their smug little SJW - universe.
They´re absolutely convinced that everything they say, and do, is the correct and final truth.
They are, according to themselves, the pinnacle of evolution and fact based intellectual discourse.
A Young Turk can´t be wrong - it´s impossible.
And if you don´t believe them - just Google it.
The Colonel nah they wont. They're too stupid even collectively realized chunk lost.
+BadGuy "...minimize the humiliation while they're looking transparent and Nobel too."
*noble
If you asked me I wanted to know more about Cenk after this debate meaning Cenk is probably going to get more publicity after this.
^because dumbasses want to get to know other dumbasses.
Shapiro interrupted Cenk dozens of times because Cenk was exposing the idiocy of his assertions. Cenk did not need to interrupt Shapiro even once. Cenk clearly won the debate!
You didn't listen to the debate did you?
You serious?
Why am I even watching this on TYT? There are more views on Dailywires channel? Man when a replacement of UA-cam and GOOGLE overall comes out. Immediate switch.
533watts let’s be honest the video and audio quality is much better on the tyt video
Duck duck go
bitchute
When you insult the audience and are surprised when you get booed
Audience was being biased
Tropics 317 Or maybe you're a little biased against the audience?
Syphaxis If I were biased towards the audience I would definitely be in favor of Ben Shapiro’s side, so i’m not being biased. I think at one point the audience was just waiting doe Ben to say anything logical to clap and shout for fun.
So they're biased in favor of logic?
Syphaxis “i think at one point they were just waiting for Ben to say anything logic in order to clap and shout for fun”. I think i had to restate that for you since you’re obviously looking for a strawman
Genocide denier gets smashed by a Jew
11 million is more accurate number.
Jack Doe you're definitely not a human being with some deep seated issues
Joe Miller it's not even a humorous joke. It's ridiculous and mundane
the joke was about the Armenian genocide dorks
pornhub exclusive
I love how Cenk sensed he was losing near the end and starting chanting “USA, USA, USA” and there was dead silence. His ace up the sleeve was trying to pander to patriotism and even then, the audience was smarter than that. How embarrassing.
Too bad it wound up being a joker card instead 😂
TYT: "Progressive superstar Cenk Uygur" In Germany we say: Self-praise stinks.
Lmao you realize that TYT didnt hire the moderator right?
These are the people who think Ben is smart
Narcissistic piece of lib.
I don't know that I've seen it as bad as that on conservative videos but they will title their videos in annoying ways like: Liberal proffessor tries to debate Dinesh, fails miserably or Ben Shapiro destroys snowflakes. I like Ben, I like Dinesh D'Souza but I wish people could be a bit more modest with their video titles.
@@hexstan179 What does the moderator have to do with OP's comment?
I mean you have to give props to TYT for not taking down the video, not taking off likes or comments, and even uploading this video.
You don't understand TYT.
They are all about AIR-TIME, not being right.
They know that there's no such thing as bad publicity, which is why they have been spamming up UA-cam since the site went up around 2006.
Cenk realized that there's no limit to how much video-content he can upload, and that you can't win an argument against someone who uploads more content in an hour than there are hours in a DAY... there will always be an armhy of idiots who eat it up.
Then he sponsored his UA-cam content, so that it would spam up everone's sidebar with recommented TYT videos.
Finally UA-cam stopped paying for views, and so TYT has been disappearing ever since.
So give props for bare minimum? Le lol.
@@SovereignStatesman TYT doesn't even run live shows all day... and Shapiro hardly ever knows what he is talking about.
TYT also understands the UA-cam algorithms, hence why their shows are easily distributed.
Then, they have in depth analysis, even bringing people like Shapiro and Prager onto their show... something which Ben seems too scared to do.
Cenk also regularly thanks his coworkers for their time, and dedication to spreading their own message using the Platform TYT provides...
Do you even watch TYT videos?
yea and ben put out like 30 seconds of one point....says a lot. Look the only real difference between these two is that ben is an individualist and the turks tend to care about collectivism and looking at policy from a perspective of everyone, not just the richest.
Why wouldn’t they. Cenk did great against Ben lol
Literally the only credit I can give Cenk is that he at least uploaded this to his channel. I mean, he's clearly uploaded it under the delusional pretense of believing that he won, but he still uploaded it
Ben Shapiro didn't even respond with inteligent responses... He either makes a bunch of shit up or oversimplifies and skews arguements. He never directly addresses any of the questions...
Devin McLaughlin yeah and you support "Google it"
Aaron Filibeck and what's wrong with that? Sure.. I think he phrased it poorly but his point behind that was that we are so accustomed to Google as all of our main search engine..... To the point where saying Google it is synonomous to saying... Research it. Cenk did provide facts and explained them. But in a debate obviously you are verbally saying those facts.... Not showing them directly... So he is saying if you doubt what I am saying just research it and see it for yourself. that doesn't take away from his points and argument at all. The phrasing wasn't the best but it wasn't an outright wrong thing to say necessarly either.
GhastlyCloud 775 I the USA part I agree was overboard and unecessary but the google part as i already explainrd was phrased poorly but has a valid meaning behind it.
Next time you have the same impulse that inspired that comment, first, watch the same debate we all did, and then think to yourself, "must not say something that exposes a total lack of comprehension on the Internet again."
"I believe in capitalism, it makes good sneakers" best sentence
I can’t believe The Young Turks would upload Cenk losing the debate on their own channel. I give them props.
They thought he won
@@VerticalStrafes thats the level of stupidity by the young turks....
maybe its because they’re honest unlike Shapiro…
@@carstarsarstenstesenn maybe it's because they are re-trying the worst catastrophe of the twentieth century...... without looking at it....
Carsten Kuehn Theyre both honest, but Shapiro is the only one that’s correct.
Sorry Cenk, you lost this one quite badly. In fairness, he deserves a lot credit for debating Shapiro.
He had balls for a man who pretends to have them
Cenk lost, but he beat the spread. He wasn't nearly as bad as I thought he was going to be. Besides calling the audience stupid and chanting USA, he did better than expected.
It was to be expected. Anyone who saw his "interview" with Sam Harris knows what happens when he is faced with someone who's intellect outclasses his own.
The real question is: Does Cenk at least have the balls to admit he lost?
(Kind of hard to imagine from somebody who has to act through mores lies in a day than most people in a life time. Or maybe he is that stupid. I dunno)
We must not have been watching the same debate. All Ben had was straw men arguments and ad hominem attacks.
I googled it. Google said Cenk lost.
Aaa R 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Aaa R lmao we know that
I also Googled it and it said Cenk won.
Cenk won? The dude was raped. Ben looked him in the eyes and made Cenk call him daddy.
I looked it up on Pornhub and it brought me to the rape section
I didn't know Ben's wife was a doctor
“My wife’s not a doctor.”
-Sen Bapiro
@@edgarbachman9037 my wife -borat
I’m late but first time watching this video and this comment took me out 😂😂😂😂😂
Shapiro: *coughs*
Crowd: WOOOOOOO!
Nightwing_AD Picture the debate without an audience and you would still have Ben absolutely walloping Cenk.
@@elijahrobbins3220 probably true
Elijah Robbins That’s seriously delusional.
LuLu Louise Did you not watch the debate?😂
Cenk: *farts*
Crowd: WhhhooooOoooooOOoo!!!!
Cenk - Here's a free tip. When your at a free and open debate, which usually only draws the more educated people, don't call your audience uneducated because they don't agree with you.
he borrowed a page out of Ann Coulters playbook and he called them uneducated because they seemed unfamiliar with the concept of money getting more or less recycled in the economy depending, maybe they should grow some skin because facts dont care about your emotions.
The concept he proposed was preposterous. I will say, I haven't heard it described in detail, only as Cenk defined it (feel free to post a link with better detail, I couldn't find one).
Phil Robertson
It is extremely simple. If you give money to wealthy people they will 'invest' it -- and this may, or may not, lead to economic improvement. If you give money to poor people they will spend it -- this means that the money flows through the economy immediately.
boggistthecat - Wouldn't it be better to give companies the money to invest in additional workers and higher wages which can then be subject to payroll taxes, puts people to work, increases GDP, personal wealth growth, and spurs innovation rather than just giving handouts to those who do not produce while maintaining a safety net for those who cannot?
Except that doesn't happen. They don't invest in workers anymore. Their goal, naturally, is the bottom-line, even it means cutting corners.
They invest in outsourcing production to countries with people that will accept lower wages and work conditions, technology to replace humans with automation, and lower wages and hours for workers that are still clinging on to their payrolls.
There has been very little innovative progress, since companies rarely take risks like they used to. Instead, they rely on tiny improvements on a proven system for steady revenue. Sure smaller startups may drive the progress of innovation, but they just get gobbled up by older, bigger, and richer corporations that don't know what to do with it and squander it.
Look at Apple. Ever since Steve Jobs died, the company hasn't really come out with anything really new. Its basically the same old phone with new bells and whistles. No real radical changes in the last few years, aside from the Apple Watch
I hate how political events are represented as a concert or show. People screaming and cheering without listening to the arguments. Shut up and listen to comprehend, don't just blindly woo for the person who seems right.
Red Bricks thank you I completely agree. I support Ben but I still wanted to hear Cenk. I wish they would have just shut up
Red Bricks it's not because he seems right it's because he is right and cenk can't debate worth shit lol
Red Bricks i see your point but how do you know what theyre thinking...youre assuming theyre all too dumb to think about things
Damion Scarberry No its because Ben "sounds" right because he seemingly speaks more intelligently and turns the argument into extremes that sound to the audience like something they should cheer for. The audience legitimally doesnt understand what Ben is saying, it just sounds right to them and resonates with their "understanding" of life
Vast majority of people are stupid. There, I said it. It's true. And they're not concentrated on one side or the other. IQ has no political bias.
Better than the presidential debate on many levels
Ben Shapiro destroyed Cenk, I’m not sure how much Cenk actually knows what he’s talking about.
“The Young Turks gets laughed at, schooled and booed for an hour”
fallansaint what were you watching lol
@@tookie36 His description is accurate. The degree to which Ben won this cannot be overstated.
talking points and gotcha lines don't equate to facts. Ben lost handedly.
Funny how if this was the other way around the right would be crying for months straight talking about "muh free speech"
@@11moleman Losing a debate does not imply an infringement on free speech... Are you living under a rock?
Cenk getting frustrated with the crowd was a sign of weakness. While I don't necessarily agree with Ben, he definitely was the better position.
Andrew Hidalgo bcuz most of the crowd was hanging on every little word he said.
The crowd was obviously hostile before they even began, regardless of the points either side made. You could tell that much even before the two walked on stage.
JackgarPrime If you watch Politcon 2016, Cenk had the audience on his side when he made personal attacks against Dinesh but Cenk was unprepared when he realized they weren't on his side, made evident by frequently insulting the audiences' intelligence
Andrew Hidalgo The crowd was stupid.
Only part of the story. Ben Shapiro was vulgar, petty, ad hominem. And more often.
28:41 way to go Cenk, alienate the audience. All jokes aside though props to both of them for starying remotely civil. Their was a few little moments but overall it was a good debate.
Agreed, like your comment :).
Alienating the audience was the side effect of sticking to his point and not just telling them what they want to hear.
He's not wrong tho lmao
In fairness, they won’t shut up and listen to at least see whether they agree or disagree.
😂😂
Shapiro is the king of talking as fast as possible with an audience that loves him so much that they'll cheer whenever he says something somewhat "profound"
Cenk: "if you don't have healthCare, you die."
Prolife Shapiro: "It costs too much and takes my freedom of choice."
"Progressive superstar Cenk Uygur takes on conservative Ben Shapiro in a battle of wits, facts, and persuasion across politics, culture and current events!" - The only place Uygur won, was in TYT video description.
You are like chee chee chee chee rony they make at home
Ben won the battle but lost the war. The republican party is clearly corrupt & rotten to the core. Ben defended money in politics, the iraq war, denied the wallstreet crash, said universal healthcare is pointing guns at doctors, etc.
His stances have aged badly while Cenk was right all along, despite being clumsy that day & being overtalked by Ben.
@@tomswanson5480 Biden has been a huge step forward from the shit show the past 4 years but since he's a corporate hack & bluedog, the progress has been very limited.
The checks he got out have helped me alot & I paid off my car.
He used the defense production act to get out more vaccines.
But otherwise we still need a progressive
@@tomswanson5480 because nobody will hire me & my last job was terrible. I don't have the energy to get up early everyday & bust my ass.
I do work at Postmates & have delivery days.
Also trumps covid bills were huge bailouts for the banks, your side has no room to talk.
@@tomswanson5480 being a corporate slave is opposite of freedom. You sound like you embody the toxic workaholic mindset that plagues America, that tells us we live to work instead of work to live.
Genk was so cringey at the end talking about equality and chanting USA lmao
yeah becuase equality is such horrible idea.
because USA sucks right? move to russia already!
I agreed with almost everything Cenk said but he really is a terrible debater.
Quique No, because he's fighting for a ghost. We already have equality. That's like me saying I'm fighting for the womens right to vote. That ship already sailed. Equality of opportunity is alive and well here in the US
ben Majercak Yeah man like how are you just going to say "google it" when you're on stage like wtf
This was a great debate
Shapiro destroyed him
No
THIS COMMENT SAYING BEN SHAPIRO WON THE DEBATE WILL BE DELETED FOR THE 5TH TIME SHORTLY
We dem Boyz still here dumb ass
Melissa Martell I'm just as surprised as you!
UA-cam has been circulating top comments for years now.
Shady channel, deleting people comments.
Been 5 hours, it's still here. Why didn't they delete this one, hmm?
Imagine if I wrote "google it" on every essay in high school, college, and graduate school.
6.0 GPA student.
It's the same as saying "that's a fact and to not say so is lying."
But did you even try googling it?
During a debate where you have very limited time, and the audience wants to boo actual facts... you don't have the time to explain it to them with crayons. If you choose to be ignorant of the facts when you can easily verify them in a matter of minutes... you can't really be helped.
@@JayS-js6xb I somewhat get what you mean because I can never think of stuff off the top of my head, but Ben Shapiro almost always has an exact source for his information, and if your going to be in a debate at politicon, you should probably come prepared with your sources and be able to think over the booes. (I'm not someone who could, but I'm also not up there debating)
@@JayS-js6xb So Ben can and Cenk can't.
51:12 brutal
More like false equivalence, the military industrial complex and fossil fuel companies spending billions in one election cycle is further evidence.
Dylan Hammer ok then, who do you think has more control in an election cycle, the right getting donations from corporations, or the left getting money from unions, while controlling 80%+ of the media coverage? Answer: the left.
Cenk was sweating up there. I would be too. Great debate.
I love when Dems state they love free college, turn around and laugh at Andrew Yang's Freedom Dividend, and then bitch when anyone says less government and less taxes putting money and power back to the people. This is why I've shifted from Left to middle. Here I sit.
Join the red!
@Almumin Republican red!
@Almumin Did you just say Trump was a communist? Hahaha
Almumin ever heard of John McCain? He was the first one to push for that
Almumin disaster relief is Socialism now? I’m missing where the Government owns the means of production.
Hahahahaha Ben called Cenk a prostitute!!!!
Honestly I think that was the low point for Ben. It was the only place where he wasn't really making any point.
ZIaman let Ben have his bullshit time he hasn't ever really had that plus it was pretty funny
ZIaman no he was using Cenk's argument against him, pretty funny
RESPECT MAH AUTHORITAH he was making the point of how ridiculous Cenk's argument was. You can't say just because you have given money to a political candidate you believe in whether it's money or support automatically makes you guilty of bribery. That's the problem with the left is they automatically assume any support for the right has ill intent when they themselves do almost everything they criticize the right for. Like Ben said Democrats take money from special interests such as unions just as much as republicans yet its only a problem when republicans do it. Demonizing people who have different opinions makes you an asshole is what he was trying to say.
Next the taxing 100% is because Cenk said we had better economic growth when individuals were taxes 90% which is why the lowest point in our economy was in the late 70s because other countries finally recovered from WW2 and were producing things. The only reason America had growth during the 50s and 60s high taxes was because the US and Russia were the only countries producing things. All the other countries were devastated from war.
Cenk is a political prostitute. Selling lies to his audience to make some blood money.
When you call the audience uneducated and racist,that's automatic loss..
QBN37 I agree, have we learned anything from this election.
QBN37 I agree, have we learned anything from this election.
Nowhere in the video he "called" uneducated and racist.
QBN37 your an automatic loss
28.40 "if youre uneducated dont make it obvious".
Does this mean he have 3.3mil uneducated subscriber? lol
Cenk is always on point. On point of losing every debate 😂
Props to you for uploading this
Re-title "Cenk's Funeral" death by hebrew hammer
The moderator lost.
Omfg thank you for that comment
If Googling something only takes a second why did not Cenk do this before hand and actually cite the supporting evidence. Using Google as some sort of mysterious fact athority is still committing the appeal to authority fallacy. This is not an actual fact reference but baseless claim that there in lies the fact. It's the "non-citation" citation, "Google it, I'm right".
How about you come prepare to provide the actual facts, not mere citation appeals to a search engine.
Looked up Hebrew Hammer for shits and giggles. It looks fuckin amazing.
Social Liberal Pepe
Citations please?
I feel like cenk learned more here than he ever did.
Unfortunately, it was about how our educational system is failing.
Chunk Yogurt learned more than he never did.
LOLOLOL LOLOLOLOL he learned to never forget the lube.
They both did
FEELINGS lost-facts won-tail between Cenks legs as he takes long walk of shame home.
"The Hebrew Hammer" indeed.
Ben doesnt speak hebrew and he only represents fascism not Judaism if he wasnt jewish he would have been a great Nazi
The Hebrew nazi soy boy indeed
@@tommench4848 That's like a total slander lol
@@jermholio “Hebrew Nazi” - juicy contradiction
@@jamescurth701 does that mean he has disavowed his nationalist socialist party and wants to stay in California because he appreciates all the diversity and democracy? 🤔
Steven is an amazing host/introducer I've seen props to you.
Cenk took an L.
When he focused on Social Justice, Pc Outrage and Indentity Politics, I think you're right, but when he talked about universal Healthcare and taxes, I think Cenk was a 100% right. You can disagree, but thats my position.
Thumthumz agreed
Loreaver you both are delusional to think that cenk won
He meaning Cenk is on point when it comes to Social Deomocarazy
Ben won on everything, but health care. Absolutely wonderful debate!
Why is Cenk always insulting the audience?
arkoraa they're obviously mostly right duhh imagine what Ben would say if it was full of lefts
Biased audience
arkoraa because he lost...Goggle it
because they dared to laugh at him!
+Chief Cano Watch Ben's debate with Sally Kohn. The audience is tilted to the left there. Ben doesn't go low for a pathetic reason like the audience mostly not agreeing with him, unlike Cenk. Says a lot about the two of them.
This is the only TYT video I have ever liked.
Self-proclaimed "progressive superstar" receives unapologetic evisceration from rhetorical savant.
RIP cenk, surprised this wasn't on pornhub
Michael Sosa they don't allow rape
Michael Sosa 😂😂😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂😂😂
I'm ten minutes into the video and the crowd is annoying as hell.
I agree. In the future, someone should edit these debates to cut out the audience. The crowd seems to think they're at a rap battle and not a debate.
10 seconds into Ben talking and I am annoyed as hell.
@@HammerStern0 that's what we have devolved into.
@@brucethedruid took you that long?
Bruce Wilson cenk couldnt even say three words without looking up for applause lmao
Get Kyle to debate Shapiro
Talk about putting yourself on blast on your own channel. 🤦🏻♂️ 🤣👍✌️
Every time Cenk said "Of Coarse" I did a shot of tequila and was drunk by the end of the debate, it was fun.
Vienna Waits4U hahahah
"Of COURSE I'm right!" --Cenk's version of fact-checking
Look up freedomtoons cenk. It'll come up with something on gun control. The Cenk impersonation is very funny.
Every time Ben sounded like a snively know-it-all I did a shot of tequila and was sent to the hospital for alcohol poisoning.
Ben absolutely destroyed Cenk
eastonhfc what debate were you watching?
not according to the rageaholic who is a republican
Emperor Alvis the earth is flat....
Emperor Alvis How so?
only in wonderland
"I contend that for a nation to try to tax itself into prosperity is like a man standing in a bucket and trying to lift himself up by the handle."
Soooo we just need a big enough bucket?
@@alexacosta2774 Loved your comment. Hard to tell if there is sarcasm. Internet is a wild place.
You're an idiot.
@@7Lace77 No you are. Lmao 😂
@@yurifrommw215 No, you. 🤔 lol
we need a rematch!
this was the BEST debate!
Learned a TON!
Peter Chan Jr something I really don’t understand is how people say Cenk lost.
@@samcpea95 losing or winning is opinion based when it comes to debate.
it's not a sport with rules or a scoreboard.
It's just sharing ideas. Who you think won or lost is up to the viewer's own judgement
Cenk cant debate.
Failed at debating Sam Harris.
Pwned HIMSELF debating Ann Coulter (really let his racism go on that one)
And got dominated by Ben Shapiro.
You "pwned" yourself when you said "pwned"
+Iron Mark That wasn't a "debate" with Sam Harris, it was a conversation and I thought a pretty interesting one.
Don't forget Dinesh D'Souza, a below average intellect that looked like Einstein with Cenk in the room.
Dont forget about Dinesh
Cenk lost when he started insulting the crowd for not agreeing with his flawed logic.
It would've been terrible to be in that crowd. People constantly screaming after they hear any change in intonation of either one of the guys, even when they haven't made their point yet. How annoying! WTF?! What bunch of sheep!
AliveWithPassion Women
BrainDead, you're living up to your name, there was just as much uproar for Shapiro.
Yeah and then imagine one of the candidates would start screaming at the audience. That would really be annoying. And weird. And misguided. And awkward.
Chrizzie 78 No kidding! When Cenk started actually insulting the crowd I physically recoiled, cringed and gagged. That was literally more cringey than the “AEIOU” segment from House of Cards, and it was real!
agreee.. those are sold/bought sheeps in the town market
This was a really good debate for both fellas
One of the reasons Chenk was so disliked, is because he acted like the crowd never heard words before
I can't help but see the word "con" pointing a Cenk the entire debate...
Andrew Knepper lol bad idea for a backdrop
Also fitting 'POL' was pointed at Ben.
Andrew Knepper moron
Andrew Knepper subliminal messages
you obviously suffer from dyslexia -- besides being just plain stupid
RIP Cenk
Robert Hays boiiiii😂😂
"You just want my wife's servies." She's fully booked lil fella
He could service her better than Ben can 😂 Ben can’t even get her 🐱 wet
I think that tyt is deleting comments that are triggering them :D
VoyagerOne, they sure can, and we can call out their immaturity, some times it's better to cut your losses and admit you list on the day. Buy hey typical double down strategy.
KyleTheFinnegan They can't accept the defeat lmao 😂 just like the 2016 election Lolz 😂
@voyager buahahahah u and Cenk are gay af!!!!!
someone should upload this to pornhub
Sankento what's wrong with a guy watching gay porn? So homophobic.
Chris is Awesome that's the greatest response to the greatest comment I think I've ever read. I literally doubled over laughing. Thank you both!
my proudest fap
They don't allow rape videos on porn hub, do they?
whats ur City?
Shapiro owned you
He did Cenk is a good debater. I want to see Shapiro vs Kulinski (secular talk) it would be a good debate.
How did Ben win when Cenk was right about everything they talked about. I have watched this video a couple times and Ben doesn’t actually have any solutions for issues that were talked about unlike Ben.
@@samcpea95 I think almost every other person that listened to this had a different view than you. I didn't hear a single thing that I thought Cenk was correct about. Ben found the faulty logic (quite quickly and easily) in every argument Cenk made. When Ben asked him direct questions that should have direct simple answers, Cenk never did. He went on diatribes, or simply skirted the direct question. Example, Ben: What is your ideal tax rate then? Cenk: Gives a long story about taxes in the 50's, and then says finding the balanced correct tax rate is what needs to be done. What? So you have no idea? Give a freaking answer. Seriously, there isn't one topic that Cenk even remotely was right about when compared to Ben.
Kyle Kulinski would destroy him
Unfortunately Ben knows that so he probably won't debate him.
Ben gives numbers without context, misleads, and talks very fast. For some reason, people think this equates to being correct.
Stupid ppl only. Not all.
all conservatives are morons who just need someone to agree with them, even if the points they make are awful
Because he is. Cenk yogurt just says “Google it”
@@Zulu_Infinite Ben is definitely not correct. Most of the stuff that comes out of his mouth is BS. This idiot doesn’t believe in regulating drugs. I worked in all FDA regulated industries. Trust me, big Pharma should be regulated. Ben is a straight up racist. I’ve watched him attack ADOS people specifically and generalize the entire race. Ben S. is an unapologetic racist. He’s a very sick individual.
GOOGLE IT!! is not an argument
Oh yeah well why don't we just tax everyone at 100% and then all our problems will be solved answer me that smart guys
AH HAHAHAHHHHH cenk is gay
Bet you didn't Google it.
sure but that's not the argument
If low taxes are so great why not just get rid of taxes?
thats how dumb Bens question was.
Ben mentions his wife is a doc twice per vid that I watch. I’m 10mins in and I already got my first.
This was a great debate. Both guys were able to answer questions and also kept it respectful towards each other. I thought Cenk was going to get destroyed because Ben doesn’t fck around. He did well.
in all seriousness props to TYT for posting this. took fortitude. like releasing your own sex tape wherein you look terrible
the Coult vs AK was much closer, though I believe the conservative took that one as well.
countof3everybodyOD too bad they're deleting pro Shapiro comments
We Slice and Dice yeah they are, I hope someone has been screenshotting.
that's astoundingly pathetic
countof3everybodyOD I know right
We Slice and Dice bullshit your comments are still on.
I can wait to see the ben Shapiro thug life video of this
Dude the first 15 minutes is like 6 thug life moments alone
*103 actually
Well I was going to write something productive but it got erased while typing. Ben, you come off like the snot nosed kid that you are. Cenk, you should have destroyed the arguments the boy brought forth. You let too much slide and could have easily buried him in his rhetoric.
In the end I call it a draw, which is sad because I so disagree with Ben's politics.
Ellis Waugh he didn’t because he can’t. Chunk got smoked, soy boy. Deal with it. Merica’ 😉🇺🇸
@@ewaugh69 lol, you are one of the few. But I respect your opinion