Everything Wrong With Ghostbusters II In 23 Minutes or Less
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- Опубліковано 18 бер 2024
- With another new Ghostbusters film coming up with Frozen Empire, we decided to go looking for sins in Ghostbusters II!
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Is it sad that the idea of a whole group of people not believing that a very public event happened no longer seems unrealistic to me?
Ooof... yeah
doctor who always have this, dispite the daleks, autons and cybermen have invaded mutiple times people are still surpised by aliens
Well, it's like some not wanting to believe Jan 6 for what it was... or the ufo conspiracies that actually the govt says is true with those hearings.
@@topmandog1 Although it did occasionally subvert the trope. Like the one Christmas ep with 10 & Donna where everyone in London shelters at home because the last several Xmases have been total nightmares.
@@jasonblalock4429 yeah they were some of the best episodes, such as turn left
Lewis' speech in the courtroom is pretty hilarious. "I don't blame them. Because one time I turned into a dog and they helped me."
I always lose it with the judges face after he says that 🤣🤣🤣
"thanks louis. That was short, but pointless."
"Do I?" "No, we've helped them out enough already."
"Thank you Lewis you have done enough to help them already"
They didn't ransomly select the Scoleri Brothers in the sewer. The Scoleri Brothers haunted the court house but weren't powerful enough. The slime in courtroom gave them enough energy to manifest fully.
CinemaSin not even bothering to be accurate anymore.
Oooooooooooooohhhh!
Brought to you by "Ghostbusters frozen empire" in theaters this weekend & honor Harold Ramis legacy
& better stick around for a bonus end credit scene
@@babytoshiro7014I've rarely watched any of their stuff anymore
They've said in their EWW Cinemasins that they are assholes and not to be taken seriously
*Welcome to another episode of "THIS HASN'T BEEN SINNED YET?!"*
There are billions of movies out there. Probably less good ones, but still a lot :D
You better take a look at this
I like how this movie gave Egon more of a personality than the first one.
And Ray and Winston and Janine and Lenny and everybody except for Moranis and Murray....
[Egon] Low bar! I mean, technically any value is greater than 0...
Contradicted his "I'm always serious" line several times though.
@@jedijones That always bothered me too, until I remembered it's an improv comedy and he's literally handed a candy bar in that scene, in the first movie, which does maintain in the second: "He's Weakening!" "He's back in the painting!" Does Cobalt(whatever the fuck)....He is the serious one in the second one. "Two in the box, ready to go, we be fast and they be slow.....
Why I love this movie more than the first. More character to our character.
🎶 Do…Re…Egon 🎶
That should’ve taken 10 sins off at least.
Agreed!
One of my favorite gags of all time
@@ShrivenzaleMan, I was in orchestra my entire school time and EVERY time "Do-Re" came up I'd ALWAYS chime in with EGON!!!!
Nah
Totally the best gag of the movie
I don’t think slimer was ever really evil just chaotic
Definitely chaotic neutral.
Fun Fact: Slimer is the ghost of John Belushi.
So accurate. But this reminds me that in the animated show, he was even a good guy. Or at least a friend to the Ghostbusters.
Slimer was always a pet and mascot. He never hurt Peter in the first film. The Real Ghostbusters pilot episode takes place right after Marshmallow Man incident. Slimer becomes their good buddy then.
21:45 - "I'm questioning why there is no Dana."
Because.....
There is no Dana, only Zuul!😊
16:40 - At the beginning of the movie, Vigo says "Find me a child" not instructing him to bring him the child. NOW he's commanding him to BRING him the child that he found.
Though the pram having a life of its own strongly implies Oscar was already chosen and therefore Vigo should be saying he already has a child in mind.
Vigo shouldn't need to micromanage. If your sink is clogged and you tell someone to call a plumber, they don't just call them to chat about their day.
@@ferd617 If your sink is clogged with goo, who ya gonna call?
@@ObsessiveGeek If you're gabegivens, I guess Miss Cleo apparently! Until someone tells you to HIRE the plumber. 😉
0:43 Imagine Ivan Ooze as the main villain of Ghostbusters.
"All the things I have missed! The Black Plague! The Spanish Inquisition! ... The Brady Bunch Reunion!"
I’d watch the heck outta that haha
You do realize Ghostbusters 2 came out before the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers movie
Ivan Ooze from the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers Movie?
@@5ftOfRageclearly, what's your point? It's called having an imagination.
Will he want his autograph book when he meets the Ghostbusters?
22:17 "A person is smart but people are dumb panicky animals and you know it." - Agent K from Men In Black
*RIP to Wilhelm von Homburg, Hank J. Deutschendorf II, Max von Sydow, David Margulies, Janet Margolin, and of course Harold Ramis and Ivan Reitman.*
P.S. No sin off for Louis's testimony?! "...But I don't blame them. Because one time, I turned into a dog and they helped me. Thank you."
The fact that the second name on your list was one of the two child actors who played Oscar makes me sad.
Thanks Louis, that was short, but pointless 😐
@@AdmRose He didn't pass until 2017 so he was 29 at his passing. Not a full life, but he didn't die as a child at least.
@@barkboingfloom The cause of death was suicide. But should you ever experience the death of someone under the age of 30, perhaps you will remember this comment and find comfort knowing that at least they didn't die as a child.
Takes TWO Von's to play a proper Vigo.
In the commentary someone points out "There's no smoking in this one." To which Harold Ramis replies "No. We did ecstasy." I thought he was joking until I saw Orange County where Ramis convincingly portrays a man on ecstasy.
I remember that commentary well!
"We had part of a Slinky. But I straightened it."
Very cheerful.
This movie is quotable as hell
@@Smokey1419 My mother didn't believe in toys....or mainly Vigo's.
As a kid, I SWORE Egon said "epidermis" and that has stuck with me all these years 😂
The sin here, as always, is..... kids. *ding*
I can't believe Peter set Egon up for that joke
How could you have misheard that? There’s a vas deferens between the two words!
@@SinDesignshahaha i get your jokes funny humans 😂🤣
4:51
That is Egon speaking, not Winston. That's one sin for not knowing which Ghostbusters are which.
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*Ding!*
The absolute lack of effort and made up sins that CinemaSins does actually reminds me that this channel is supposed to be a joke.
@@ZrankFappaHExcept it isnt. That is just what the hardcore simping cinemasins fans wants you to believe. Cinemasins themselves have said many times they arent a joke, they arent a parody, they are a movie critic channel.
Those are the subtitles from the DVD, not subtitles created by CinemaSins. I used to watch all my movies with subtitles on and I still remember seeing that.
Ghostbusters 2 is one of those movies that I loved so much as a kid that I kind of naturally let a lot of the plot holes slide as an adult.
I freaked out when they were using a NES Max to control the statue of liberty when I saw it in the theater and it still makes me laugh today even though it's completely ridiculous.
It had Turbo functionality. Totally made sense to my 11-year old brain.
I believe the reason Janosz targets Oscar in particular is because he already had a crush on Dana before Vigo influenced him. His devotion to Vigo isn't superceded by his desire to be with her, so he kills two birds with one stone (despite the fact that he thinks stealing her child will just not matter after Vigo takes him over, and Dana will just agree to be Janosz' wife, lol.)
I know people generally poke fun at this movie, that it’s a big step down from the first… but I was 6 when this came to theatres and saw it a year later when we rented it… and I really enjoyed it. Thought it was scarier than the first and had fun movie. Maybe if I saw it in my teens or as an adult I would have scoffed at the premise, but the underground scenes and the stuff with Oscar left a big impression. Love both the originals
It was scarier than the first one.
I loved the visuals when I was a kid. Only thing I didn't like was the Bobby Brown song. I remember getting the cassette when I was 5, listening to "On My Own" and thinking it sucked compared to Ray Parker Jr.'s. I have since 180ed my opinion about it and find it to be my favorite Bobby Brown song.
The bath tub scene sure left an impression on me. No trauma whatsoever.
@@jimb.7523 L take, On Our Own is still 🔥
The Ghostbusters team just enjoyed their very enthusiastic walks.
Alucard approves.
The biggest sin is that there was no mention of Vigo the Carpathian in Ghostbusters afterlife.
Frozen empire will.
@@kylec.8350I hope so, GB2 deserves some more love.
Why would there be, there is no reason he wasn't critical to the plot
@timewarriorsaga The choas he brought to the city should have had so sort of after effect on the city but then nothing from part 1 was explained in part 2
@@kylec.8350I seen frozen empire n it did not mention him at all
5:35 Vigo would rock at the concert with his Black Metal Band.
Honest Trailers.
Damn, I love the haunted train scene.
As a child, that _terrified_ me
Not to mention those horrific floating heads with the grimaced faces. I had to fast forward that moment or look away until I was in my late teens.
Well at the end with the Statue of liberty, maybe they just use the same thing they use to get her to the museum to get her back to Ellis Island?
"Scary Poppins".... chefs kiss
Sister to Carrie Poppins from Last Jedi.
The Masters of the Universe movie came out in 1987, so the He-Man references aren't so off.
Yeah, but very few people saw that movie and even fewer liked it.
Didn't it also come out quite late?
I liked it.
@@chrislorusso433 9 year-olds liked it, which is why they'd be chanting for He-Man.
I'd say Louis throwing the stream just made the crowd cheer which created more positivity
The Statue of Liberty sequence is extremely imaginative and so well done. Iconic almost. I was hoping for a sin off for that part.
Agreed - that shit blew my damn mind as a kid. That shot where she’s walking down the street and you can see her size relative to the surrounding buildings gives me chills every time.
7:45 biggest sin is you guys haven’t sinned my cousin Vinny yet? Don’t make me tell Joe Pesci
No tell him he hasn’t sinned Goodfellas
@@TheBandit025Novasoooo let’s round up to 100 sins then, deal?
You aint George Carlin praying to him so nothing would happen.
That's because My Cousin Vinny has no sins.
@@Rockhound6165 Minus how dumb the cops are thinking two Yankees killed an African American
17:11 God, baby Oscar on the ledge traumatized so many movie goers at the time. 😱
I’ve had nightmares about this scene.
Back in the 1980s when suing for every trifling matter was a hobby. Baby Oscar needs to be the Millennial Mascot of public safety.
As an 80's baby I can confirm in fact He-Man was still popular
He-man was a couple of years from extinction because of The Ninja Turtles, hence the painting reverse at the end.
I love Egon’s shit eating grin after the “Do Re Egon” part. Like he’s so proud of that one.
That Legal Eagle name drop is the crossover we need to see.
Legal Eagle has already done a video on the courtroom scene
The last time I was this early, Disney wasn't making remakes
When you're trying to be clever, but aren't clever enough to know that Disney's first remake of a film was the Jungle Book in 94.
@@Ozzymandius1 it's called hyperbole Ozzy. Try applying that cleverness you speak of more often.
@@Ozzymandius1my dude, I think that was kinda the whole point of op's joke, though maybe your addition of factually how long it's been since the mouse *didn't* do a remake adds to the humor?
4:51 you put Winston instead of Egon. Sin for you cinemasins (ding)
I think the best part of the part with Peter's tv show is that had Vigo succeeded Milton would have been 100% correct.
And then the other guest was within just a few months of the failed reboot that nearly killed the franchise.
Well holy shit. I NEVER realised that!!
Funny thing about slimer; the movies never called him that, the movie documentation only refer to him as Onionhead. It was the audience that called him slimer, which was then adopted by The Real Ghostbusters animated series.
They literally credit him as slimer in the end credits ua-cam.com/video/u-wQnisqH0o/v-deo.htmlsi=1fudv_xs_VV6ybIR
Come on…the Statue of Liberty literally breaking thru a barrier of hatred with an entire crowd singing along…movie moments don’t get much more feel-good than that.
The moment Vigo was putting up his first speech in the picture I was actually thinking: "This would be a banger opening for a Metal concert!" :D
You guys ever see the side by side pics of now Madonna and vigo! Hilarious
I met Harold Ramis years ago while working at a speciality pharmacy in Glencoe. He lived in the area. He was always my favorite Ghostbuster. 👻
How cool is that?
The river of slime was there the entire time, it served as a backup plan to bring Gozer to our dimension. Vigo just happened to be able to tap into it to increase his own power.
The planned third movie would’ve been called “Ghostbusters in Hell” too
Sigourney on the steps looking ominously into the city is perfect foreshadowing for both the slime absorbing the museum and the door slamming shut. Like, you do know she was one of the best actresses of the 1980's right?
The pink slime consistency is all over the place, sometimes its Pepto Bismol and other times it like sauce you get with fried wontons.
I’ve checked their entire sin catalog, and somehow they’ve never sinned the original South Park movie (Bigger, Longer, Uncut).
Probably cuz every word would be bleep. The say the word fuck A LOT
17:27 Scary mother fuggin poppins.... that's the funniest thing I've ever heard in my life, and the only time you could ever use that Pun. All of the sins off!
"How many people here are a national monument? Raise your hand "
I laughed at that when I was young because I always enjoyed Peter's silliness.
I didn't get the full appreciation of the brilliant joke until decades later in my adulthood. 😂⏳
Murray always got the best lines
"This pink slime basically does what the movie needs it to!" Congratulations on finally figuring out what a McGuffin is!
Except that's not what a mcguffin is and the slime wasn't a mcguffin.
Love the Depeche Mode reference with Martin Gore 😂😂
I wonder how many heads that went over. 🌹DM forever.!
They also got in an SCTV reference (Eugene Levy and Andrea Martin).
6:32 I will say the Winston disappearance in the courtroom scene baffled lots of ppl to where he went. He's a freakin' GB for chrissake, like shouldn't he had been there? But then we heard the actor say how little he was used and paid. They did Ernie Hudson dirty. I think even Dan Aykroyd back him on that.
Winston waited outside with the car. There was a deleted scene.
He's there for moral support, it makes sense that as employees he and Janine may not have been charged with anything. As the legal owners of the business everything falls on the main three.
He got his own lawyer. Just like he said he would in the 1st one.
Ernie Hudson is a national treasure. His roles in Ghostbusters and The Crow made me want to be a better person.
@@TheReubenShowhahaha underrated comment.
Vigo didn't mess with the dark room from the painting in the museum: the photos had his --- in them. He could not have done anything to Winston.
Actually, according to Legal Eagle, My Cousin Vinny portrays very accurate courtroom demeanor.
He-Man was still a thing back in 1989. Watched it before school at a friends.
TMNT was way bigger at that point
Also before school?
Your local network didn’t think that one through well, was typically on during the weekend here.
You right about that
1:12 The Ungrateful Bastard trope in a nutshell in this movie.
Massive missed opportunity, Dana's baby should be special because Dana was possessed by the guardians of gozer. Also, that would have been a great Ghostbusters reboot story... Baby Oscar has some special psychic connection to the Ghost world because his mother was permanently connected to the spiritual world in that whole gatekeeper keymaster thing.
16:55 Vigo wanted a child, and had previously requested a child but was now demanding one - suddenly movie is movieing and there's a deadline. But also, Janosz wants Dana, who happens to have a child. So they each see an opportunity for both to get what they want. "Wife to you and mother to me."
Here are all the audio outtake clips at the end:
1 (23:22): The Untouchables (Paramount Pictures, 1987)
2 (23:31): Speed (20th Century Studios, 1994)
3 (23:40): Veep, "Data" (season 4, episode 3; HBO, 26th April 2015)
4 (23:46): The Matrix (Warner Bros., 1999)
5 (23:58): Hawkeye, "So This Is Christmas?" (episode 6; Disney+, 22nd December 2021)
6 (24:05): Mighty Morphin Power Rangers, "High Five" (season 1, episode 2; Fox Kids, 7th September 1993)
7 (24:11): Beverly Hills Cop III (Paramount Pictures, 1994)
8 (24:17): Die Hard with a Vengeance (20th Century Studios, 1995)
9 (24:33): Ghostbusters (Columbia Pictures, 1984)
10 (24:43): Groundhog Day (Columbia Pictures, 1993)
11 (24:53): The Lion Guard, "The Imaginary Okapi" (season 1, episode 14; Disney Junior, 8th July 2016)
12 (24:59): Aliens (20th Century Studios, 1986)
13 (25:08): Swimming with Sharks (Trimark Pictures, 1994)
Thank you! I've always hoped someone would do this.
@@drakethedragon3164 You're quite welcome, man!
I was hoping for a reference to the last line of Planet of the Apes, where Taylor discovers the Statue of Liberty buried in the sand.
24:40 I never recognized they used that line for Groundhog day. Excellent!
I don’t think Louis’s contribution qualifies as “stolen valor”; he really did think he helped save the day, whereas most perpetrators of stolen valor KNOW they were never police/military/firemen/paranormal exterminators 😅
Also - that's the joke, he thinks he did it all. Sigh....
@@bluelightningnz Oh I understand that part haha
Though I like to think he did in fact break the slime wall as it no longer had the power to resist the blast.
Plus, he declares "I'm with you, guys" as he blasts the slime. That kind of camaraderie must be some pretty powerful positivity against the negative mood slime.
Vigo's full name is listed as "Vigo Von Homburg Deutschendorf" in "Magicians, Martyrs And Madmen." The name is a mix of actors from the movie. Wilhelm von Homburg portrayed Vigo and William T. Deutschendorf and Henry J. Deutschendorf II portrayed Oscar.
11:00 I never understood why they had the Ghostbusters 2 logo on their uniforms and ectomobile. It would be like Superman adding a "2" to his chest in Superman II
Because they had closed and reopened so it was their 2nd turn at their ghostbusting business. It was a rebranding for them.
Because it was their second shot at ghostbusting after being out of business so it was a company rebranding. That's why they don't have 2 in the logo during the birthday scene.
@@wizzydoesdallas3408You don’t see the no ghost logo with three fingers in Afterlife or with four in Frozen Empire.
The obvious answer is so they can sell more merchandise with minimal effort.
Also it's kind of a joke...
6:15 this scene scared the hell me as a kid thanks to the creepy music score playing when turn on this eye lights.
I was seven when this movie came out and I remember thinking even then "He-Man isn't popular anymore."
13:57 I never thought I would hear CinemaSins unironically use the word rizz.
Winston should have suplexed that ghost train
Underrated comment!
But his name isn't Sabin
If Ghost SHIPS make sense, what the hell is the problem with a Ghost TRAIN?
I always assumed that was the *actual* Titanic dredged up off the seabed, and it was just the people disembarking that were ghosts.
Ghost trains are real things. And one is mentioned in the first movie.
The most unbelievable part of this storyline is that the defense industry didn’t notice the portable energy weapon technology and already buy these guys out for a billion dollars.
Leave it up to Peter to why negotiation likely fell through😁
God this movie terrified me as a kid. That slime was far scarier than Alien.
Me too
The old lady ghost with the carriage gave me nightmares.
Janosz was my guy in part 2
“The upper Vest-side”
And beautiful shot at the end with the statue and the two towers in the background.
They could have easily had it so Vigo was specifically targeting Dana because of the residual ectoplasmic whatever she had from the time Gozer got turned into a dog.
Good argument! And the "residual ectoplasmic whatever" gave me a good chuckle. Thank you!
the reason Slimer was changed into a 'good' ghost was to tie into the cartoon series where he was a part of the team
Yes he is
Same reason Winston doesn’t have a mustache in this movie
7:46 actully Legal Eagel sited that as one of the more acurate repersentations of court room procedings, so I think you're in the clear.
Maybe the ghost train was from that Thomas the train episode where a train was punished by people bricking up a wall to keep stuck in a hole. It died there of Boredom and Loneliness.
Wonderful idea
“…in a castle of pain, I sat on a throne of blood!”
Yeah, hemorrhoids do be like that.
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I like the second one better than the first one because I believe that the second one has more action than the first one.
You believe wrongly.
The original has way better pace and gets into the action much sooner than this one does, there’s rarely a moment that stands still.
King Missile joke? I'm here for it! Great song!
I have a soft spot for that movie. Saw it in theatre back in the days still being a teenie. I had two very entertaining hours on a boring cold day.
He-Man was definitely still that popular. Possibly even more so than that kid represented. Oh the good ole days of.... awkward cartoons made to sell toys.
Slimer is chaotic neutral. He's evil or good, just lives for the anarchy 😂
So Egon explains that if they went any faster in the statue, it would break.
Meanwhile they just slammed its arm into a museum roof and that did nothing i guess
Wouldn't the water have washed off the slime from the inside of the Statue of Liberty while it crossed the harbor?
He-Man was popular in that period, I remember playing with the action figures . Back at my childhood, we didn't care about the unbelievable high number of recycled animations inside an anime .
Assuming weight, when Egon measured the baby to be exactly 24 inches tall in the movie, it is only because the flexible tape measure goes up to 24 inches. I know this because I have the exact same ruler from when I did costume design in college.
3:27 as a HUGE Depeche Mode fan, I laughed right out loud at this. 😂😂😂
So was Alan Rails, the guy who can summon Ghost Trains, was in NY in 1989?
A shame he cant Sin the 2009 video game. Which was for all intence was the unofficial third movie. It followed up on most of the elements found in the first movie.
I laughed super hard at that King missile reference
Murray and yonoshs handshake is so fkn funny omg I just cried alil 😅😢😅😅😅😅
It's like someone who didn't watch the movie came up with half these sins.
This your 1st day here?
Ray you're not sleeping with it are you????
Pedro from Up In Smoke? I hope that's a joke. Yes he played a character named Pedro. But his name is Cheech Marin, as in Cheech and Chong. As in Cheech and Chong's Up In Smoke.
His name was Pedro de pacas in Up in Smoke. It was Cheech in their next movie
@@SergioArellano-yd7ik Yes but this is CinemaSins. And he made that comment as If Cheech was just some extra that you happen to see in a different movie as well. Cheech and Chong are iconic. I don't think anybody thinks of that character as Pedro from Up in Smoke. When I was 8 years old and saw this in the theater I thought to myself "Oh look it's Cheech".
With a few rewrites they could've had Oscar be the child of Dana and Louis, therefore being the offspring of Zuul and Vinz Clortho, and giving Vigo a reason for wanting him specifically
I doubt they could have suggested that for a kids movie, it was supposed to be Peter though they wanted them to be separated so Oscar has an unknown father
ghost nanny - “scary poppins”. nice one!
10:48 notice the name on the screen "Vigo Von Homburg DEUTSCHENDORF. His real actor name is Wilhelm Von Homburg. And the long last name is the actual one of both baby actors who played Oscar.
I'm pretty sure the last name is both of the baby actors' name. :P
“Why would nobody wanna get in on the action if busting makes you feel this good” 🗿
“I would still prefer to see more busting!” 🗿
In germany the kids on the birthday don‘t wait for „He-Man“ but for „Muscle-Man“. I just can‘t say if it was a licencing-issue, because He-Man was known here.
12:50 I mean, come on, "he says the Titanic just arrived" is iconic from GB2 - does the ship have a soul?
That prediction about the world ending 2/14/2016 was interesting, considering that was just a few months before the infamous reboot came out, which, for better or worse, was the next time anything with the name "Ghostbusters" was in theaters. Maybe that was the day they finished making the movie, which nearly destroyed the franchise.
And it was after the release of the most hated trailer on YT for that movie
It’s titled “Answer The Call”
It has no other name.
Ghostbusters 2 was a great movie.
I lost it at Scary Poppins lol!
10:48 I never noticed that before, but Vigo shares the same last name as the actors who played Oscar.