21:43 "...mistaking Bill Murray for a ghost and blast his ass." Immediately made me think of Zombieland where he was mistaken for a real zombie and shot by Jesse Eisenberg 😂
“Kumail Nanjiani does more in this movie than he does in the Eternals.” That and the writers wanted him to have fun instead of being boring and depressing.
@@mohdamerulaidilbinrazisahm7317 that's sort of the case for most of the cast in the film. They all tried, but the fact that theres so many eternals, they are mostly underdeveloped characters with little personality, so the audience don't really care about a lot of them
@@rorylynch7775 It was a real shame, too. That ghost chick had the potential to be a really awesome character. But it was super obvious what her plot line was going to be, and there wasn't much to her besides that.
Unironically, the idea of a bunch of backyard ghostbusters existing all over the USA needing to coordinate to tackle one giant threat would have been a great story for the sequel to Afterlife.
it was unbelievable. defeat teh baddie walk outside ice thawing and people outside yea that always happens the very asshiole who wants to shut teh ghostbusters down is there as well yea sure whatever these idiots in hollyweird expect too much from us and the hard core ghostbuster fans are delusional to expect us to be satisfied with a pos movie full of memberries for stage one Alzheimer folks who need them toi hold onto what lil reality they can deal with . Time to check in a bunch of Ghostbusters into a special home.
Movie title should have been Frozen Afternoon, especially as the "Empire" lasted slightly less time than an afternoon. Age of Ultron had the same problem, it consisted of a Few Days of Ultron.
Easy, the scriptwriter and effects team were ambitious but the studio execs would never allow the age rating to be bumped up through blood and people outside of the intro dying. Just like the brutality of Transformers being OK because it's not people or human blood that appears on screen.
@@Japaneseanimeguy Makes sense, but then if I were the writer I would have adjusted the scene to take away the icicles entirely and just have the place freeze up, or people freezing up. They already had that in the flashback at the start of the movie with the frozen guys locked in the room, so just do it again.
I was more bothered by the fact that she apparently was able to melt brass in pot on the stove. A standard ass kitchen stove, that does not get anywhere near hot enough to melt brass.
@@TurinAlexander 1k plus to heat up brass / bronze where the hell is her heat protection. Legit that kinda heatr ya gonna be wearing soem protection to keep from 3rd degree burns. I love to see a gatekeeper Ghostbuster who is how dare ya point out facts do teh same in a kitchen. Hey reality check Cast iron cookware can withstand high temperatures, up to 650°F, making it suitable for most heat sources. However, some cast iron can withstand temperatures of up to 1,500°F before significant damage occurs. For example, cooking a cast iron skillet directly over an open charcoal grill flame can heat it to around 700°F. However, enameled cast iron pans, like Le Creuset Dutch ovens, may only be safe up to 500°F due to their coating. The melting point of brass is 1,700° F. Since brass is an alloy of copper, it maintains a relatively low melting point. Brass also requires specialized furnace equipment to provide a proper melt. Hey lets melt brass in a kitchen UH NO Toxic fumes www.wikihow.com/Melt-Brass#:~:text=Purchase%20a%20metal%20melting%20furnace,the%20brass%20easier%20to%20pour. Yea Idiots in the Fandom obviously dont know real science. its all a cosplay to make them feel special like they matter and teh world is about them. Yea go ahead make ya wannabe ghost hunting channels . we wil just lol at ya crybabies who are out of touch with reality
And dip the coils without said molten brass clump up with impurities. It painted itself without sticking the layers. If ny is being frozen by a demon, how the hell did the molten stay liquid long enough.
@@Moefongoe Well it couldn't have been that cold out, considering there are random shots later where you still see people still hanging around outside by hot dog carts and stuff instead of holing up in literally any building with central heating.
Sin you missed: When Phoebe is upgrading her proton pack, she chops the station’s fire-pole up to melt its pieces. Yet a few scenes later, we see the fire-pole still in one piece.
Man that Omni magazine sin is a legitimately awesome point. I would watch the hell out of a movie where some rando decides to build a pack and then start a competing business.
I had asked my dad if he wanted to watch Frozen Empire when it came to our local theater, he said yeah. When we went, I took my Ghostbusters costume I bought from Spirit Halloween (outfit, proton pack, PKE Meter, the works) & put it on in the parking lot. I walked thru the doors & surprised the workers. One guy said "lemme guess, Ghostbusters?" to which I replied "that or Sex & The City, whichever comes first" 😁 They had said they never expected to see anyone in costume for any movies there. They took pictures & we cracked jokes. It was fun. I had always wanted to go to a premier dressed up in costume. And to do it with my dad was even greater.
I was under the impression that she went there to play both sides by herself. You see her reaching across the board to move a piece before the ghost moves it for her
The slime was PINK in Ghostbusters 2. Physical effects supervisor Chuck Gasper created different colored batches of the slime, which was made from Methacel, a vegetable-based gel, and food coloring. Director Ivan Reitman chose Pink.
My problem with this film is that it feels like we are missing an entire section of the story. Big ghost breaks free and then it’s just final battle time. They really should’ve had more ghost busting. The only ghost to get caught the standard way is the one at the beginning of the film.
It's a common problem in movies that struggle to balance like 20 main characters. It takes them over half the film to do what another movie might have accomplished in the first 30 minutes. They built up Garraka in the marketing like he was going to be this really cool threat, and we spent significantly more time with a ghost that just possesses chairs and trash bags and stuff.
Would love a Ghostbusters movie about the ethics of Ghostbusting. Like how some Ghostbusters would want to capture any spirit malevolent or not, while others would see some spirits as good and benevolent. I think it would be an interesting take to see the Ghostbusters fighting to save some ghosts from a rival company.
This entire plot reminds me of the cartoon episode where a powerful spirit was trapped instde a musical stone that only Winston could shut down and was done in the museum too.
Well the producers were fans of The Real Ghostbusters and said they wanted this movie to be more like an episode of the cartoon, so I guess they succeeded.
@@khankake9576 One of the weakest but one of the most iconic. Maybe that is just my opinion. I will stand by it. No matter what anyone says. Fight me. I liked that he returned here. But Bill Murray should be burried/retired someday. He had like 2 or 3 minutes of screen time. 2 scenes. He was just here to grab a paycheck and so people come to watch the movie. Come and watch the movie because he is in it. He contributed nothing whatsoever to the plot. He was doing experiments he did in the first movie. Blink and you missed this. And then strolled in from nowhere to the headquarters and be useless again. Same in Afterlife. In Antman and the Wasp: Quantumania as well. He was in a single scene. And was pretty much whisked off. There was like one more mention of him there but that was pretty much it... He is really wasted nowadays. He really fell since his time in Groundhog Day...
7:00 One thing you missed here, it has not held ghosts since 1984. The ghosts captured in 1984 were released and the Ghostbusters were shut down until 1989. So it only housed ghosts caught since 1989.
To be fair, the containment unit had 198 traps fed into from Summerville, which contained Gozer and all of its minions, which included 2, class-6 possessors, Vinz Chlortho and Zuul.
I don't think those traps were emptied into the containment unit - if they had, then Gozer would be loose again, trying to take over the world. I just assumed they are still buried in the ground in Summerville. It's been established that the ghost traps have an apparently very long lasting power supply (I remember Egon saying in GB2 that the batteries in the proton packs alone had a half life of 10,000 years or something like that).
I was honestly pretty pleased with the movie. It's by no mean a great film but, really, the first Ghostbusters already had a very light plot with very convenient plot devices and with a completely wonky lore. We all love it mainly because of the characters/cast in this particular overall concept. Frozen Empire feels like an old Ghostbusters cartoon episode. We all know it's not the real deal but it's still light-hearted fun.
15:45 reminds me of that Ghostbuster Videogame where you eventually DO have to deal with the Library Ghost. she blocks your shots with a bunch of books, making it rather frustrating, but not really hard.
it doesn't take long when ya in a place to pick up such things. in the south ya get into calling folks Mr and Miss as that is how folks are addressed . esp if ya a kid
6:57: There is an opportunity for another sin here- I beg to differ about the ghost count in the storage grid. Walter Peck made the ConEd worker shut the grid off in the original film, releasing the ghosts caught up to that point. Unless the Ghostbusters very rapidly repaired and refilled that grid, there should not be that many ghosts in there. *DING*
how did walter pech get into teh office . I just know walter had to have a judge in his pocket. A Reality check . SO Ghostbusters face Gozer Choose your Destruction Ray thinks Stay Puft . Why didn't Stay Puft appear on the spot vs walk Oh hey uh a he walked teh streets of NYC to go to kill the ghostbusters did Gozer as Stay Puft make sure not to step on folks and styuff i mean lets be real the damage and loss of life . just being real folks Unless teh judge is paid off so Mr ConEd man Walter told ya to turn if off . right ? Yes ! Walter Peck you are responsible for 400 Million dollars in damages and the loss of 30 civilians the court fines you 900 Million Dollars and in the case of the 30 deaths thanks to you that will be handled in a separate court case if it was me the judgement is 30 life sentences Ray , Egon, Winston, Peter . your free to go . The Govt walks in and says hey we wanna fund ya research and here is some bank we as the fellas are taken down by the govt to steal the technology , yea conspiracy time
I liked Afterlife because the connection and tribute to Egon but honestly….this franchise can’t move forward with these kids and mom being the core group of Ghostbusters. I mean seriously?
The girl was cool, but she's too old now to be the precocious but awkward pre-teen that no one listens to because she's too young even though she's totally right anymore. That was kinda what made her character likable in Afterlife. She's just kind of a brat in Frozen Throne.
@@blackbirdfrost I don't have a major problem with her character but she CAN NOT lead this franchise in future movies and she is the focal point right now. She isn't that strong of a character that audiences want to see in a GB film moving forward.
@MrMJmusicLover I liked Afterlife before it became a shot for shot remake of 84. Then, the whole movie is pointless. Same with Frozen Empire. The Spenglers are only there because of their last name. Even Phoebe is pointless when the research team was revealed. Why was she not part of it? Movie sucked
The diner scene where podcast and phoebe try to capture melody proved how this doesn’t work. It’s two kids with nuclear explosives on their backs….trying to catch a ghost in a public diner.
Garraka waging war on humanity despite only having beef with the king is like with Lamia where Zeus basically goes “ok so you’ve been forced to eat every child we’ve had, now I’ll turn you into a snake lady with extra powers everyone forgets exist so you can take revenge on Hera” only for Lamia to take revenge by becoming what is basically a boogeyman that also on top of eating children lures men into her home to kill them despite that having nothing to do with revenge at all
Melting point for brass is 1700 F - dipping those sensitive electronics in molten brass wouldn't simply gum them up, it would vaporize most of them, never mind you can't melt brass in the oven.
The one sin I actually expected while watching the movie, didn’t make it. I totally heard in my head “The Ghostbusters graduated from the Prometheus school of running away from things” when the possessor tried to run them over with the ECTO.
I wanted to love this movie but i was so bored i was taken out of the movie. I found what point i was taken out was when Phoebe sees the ghost girl at the diner after they got the call. After that, i checked out. Those 2 are boring af.
When you remember that the 1984 original and 1989 sequel both reminded the kids in the theater that adults were to be entertained, too. How? By subtle porno references, of course! First film, believe it or not, featured an uncredited Ron Jeremy as a bystander looking up at the explosive Firehouse on North Moore Street just as Ecto-1 comes into frame. He's to the extreme left of the screen looking like live action Mario. Some porn flicks were still shot in NYC back when principal photography for Ghostbusters occurred. So dear old Ivan Reitman probably thought: HEY, BILL'S A FAN OF RON. LET'S HAVE HIM CAMEO!😂 Speaking of Mr. Murray, where's the porn reference in GHOSTBUSTERS 2, you ask? Just after bathtub slimer tries to cop a feel from Dana, she flees with baby Oscar to Peter's place. Funny how her character had no qualms about running to HIM and no other Ghostbuster at that moment! At any rate, there's a moment where Peter has Dana in his bedroom with Oscar, and he name drops a certain Italian Erotica actress whose videotapes he happens to own. Go look up the scene, then Google Image her WORK.😂❤
21:52 The proton pack uses "a stream of highly focused and radially polarized protons" which can be considered plasma, and fire (or rather the flame) is also plasma, so it makes sense that Nadeem can control it.
and yet in Ghostbusters 2 Ray and Winston are doing childrens parties with these devices Ray is Hey Winston watch the pack i gotta hit teh head . Some hot woman is hitting On Winston as he is not watching the pack as a kid starts to flip soem buttons and switches and his dad was a oh they are jokes as he pushes a button and says hey brad i am gonna catch ya opps melts Brad . Yea uh huh
The big issue I have with this film is that so much was cut it hinders the film quite a lot. So much shit in the trailers that actually should’ve been there. Ugh.
4:06 -- There is so much traffic at that intersection at any daylight hour you could never drive that fast without going on the sidewalks... which I have seen at that intersection.
Ok, so that red thing can posses a lion that's made of stone or whatever and so it moves as a lion because that's the shape, although its just a piece of rock. Why it doesn't do the same when posses the vaccum cleaner or other stuff? it can clearly make stuff change it's original shape, in this case, just a sitting lion that may not have certain parts of it's body even sculpted. EDIT: well, there's the jumping pizza, so, I think it's a bit selective.
I was thinking the same thing when you did that cutaway with the ferris wheel. Actually there's a few things in this video that you said that I was actually thinking while watching a movie.
The last fifteen seconds of this video is priceless.... I'm sorry.The last minute and a 1/2 where you changed the voices out.I was dying laughing on everything and I almost had to replay at 5. 6 times
8:09 Another curious thing about this chess position before the checkmate, look at where Melody's knight is. Why didn't Phoebe take it with her G pawn? Even with the light square bishop guarding it, Phoebe would still be up the exchange. What move did she make instead? 9:12, How did the checkmate happen soon after this? What was guarding the queen? I ask of course, because if we go back to when she moved the pinned knight, Melody somehow has 2 light square bishops and no dark square bishop. We clearly see the king behind the queen, meaning that she's not guarded by a rook. The only way she could be covered in this position is with a dark square bishop on A3. Now it's possible that the bishop pinning the knight to the king was meant to BE on A3 instead of A4, which would make the knight move legal, stupid but legal.
I loved the ghostbusters growing up and yes I'm sad that the writing in newer movies is so spoon fed now. but normally I wouldn't be on you side about the Paul Rudd comment and i wasn't planning on it. that being said then you had to make the mac in me joke from Paul Rudd and Connan's long history of clips and I laughed for SOOO long. I'm removing ten sins off of you. well played cinemasins well played.
I wondered the same thing about the stone lion. We watched Pheobe obliterate it earlier in the movie but now it's suddenly back and pristine again like nothing happened? It's pulling the same ex-machina bulls#%t as the Statue of Liberty in Ghostbusters II. * DING! * Also, the continued presence of the gray lady at the library suggests that the events of the video game, in which she was finally trapped, were not officially canon which is a sin in and of itself. * DING! *
Didn't even Dan Aykroyd or someone acknowledge that the game was basically meant to be Ghostbusters 3? Although it would be funny to see them try to acknowledge the rookie character in the newer movies. "Yeah, we had a fifth Ghostbuster. Dude went on like one adventure with us and then just quit."
@maryannclementiii-uw5pk Yep, I remember that guy. We never did find out his name either. In fact come to think of it, he never really said much of anything. Freakin' wierdo.
Eh, Slimer's been around since movie one, and he's neutral-to-good; and the whole Statue of Liberty setpiece in the second film was pretty soundly fighting the supernatural with the supernatural. Ghostbusters has always been about a ragtag band of nerds fighting the supernatural with whatever they could get their hands on, really. 'Science' just happens to usually be page one of the nerd playbook.
Ladder 8 doesn’t carry hose, their Firehouse was originally a double house during the year it took place, and the front pieces on their helmets should be red.
@@MICHAEL-vy3ch It is supposed to be the same helmet Tully wore. The one she wears in the 2016 movie was inspired by the original one. I'm not sure how anyone came to the conclusion that it was supposed to be the other way around.
4:25 bc sully ditched his plane in the Hudson - a calm River. Something already documented as very much a doable thing. See aeroflot 366. Half a century before sully’s and done by a captain more than half of sully’s age. But also bc he was highly introverted and a license deal would be difficult with his personality. If anyone is getting a license deal it’s it’s the pilot from the Gimli Glider
Love it! Biggest sin for me though... in a city full of ghosts, that's been almost-destroyed by giant ghosts multiple times, where everyone knows (from near-death experiences) ghosts are real... the city has invested zero effort in a government anti-ghost force and the mayor is going off on / trying to fire the totally underfunded private anti-ghost unit. Which gets stupider in the lion scene were the police there were about to... what... shoot bullets into the giant statue that got possessed? What is the logic behind blaming the ghostbusters while having zero backup plan to deal with ghosts if they do, in fact, clap off.
don't expect this channel to know that kind of stuff. its all about longer videos, more "sins", and clicks and likes and subscribers, nothing to do with content
The biggest problem with these sequels is trying to turn Ghostbusters into a family movie franchise, the second biggest problem with these sequels is that it treats the ghost busters legacy a bit too seriously. Ghostbusters is an 80s comedy ala Animal house. Not an epic adventure, and it loses a bit of its identity every time they try to make it such
"The cold never bothered us anyway." - Ghostbusters probably
Elsa
Elsa. 😂
I can see Venkman saying it.
Is Olaf the ice demon, then?
Let 'em Ghoooooost. Let 'em Ghoooooooooooooooost.
21:43 "...mistaking Bill Murray for a ghost and blast his ass." Immediately made me think of Zombieland where he was mistaken for a real zombie and shot by Jesse Eisenberg 😂
I'm pretty sure that's the joke.
Uh, that's still tender.
He got Murrayed 😂
“Kumail Nanjiani does more in this movie than he does in the Eternals.”
That and the writers wanted him to have fun instead of being boring and depressing.
Hey that diverse director was the perfect fit for a superhero movie…🤦♂️
I liked him in Eternals. Such a shame that the script was underwhelming
@@mohdamerulaidilbinrazisahm7317 that's sort of the case for most of the cast in the film. They all tried, but the fact that theres so many eternals, they are mostly underdeveloped characters with little personality, so the audience don't really care about a lot of them
Hahahah that's not saying much tho.
@@rorylynch7775 It was a real shame, too. That ghost chick had the potential to be a really awesome character. But it was super obvious what her plot line was going to be, and there wasn't much to her besides that.
Unironically, the idea of a bunch of backyard ghostbusters existing all over the USA needing to coordinate to tackle one giant threat would have been a great story for the sequel to Afterlife.
it was unbelievable. defeat teh baddie walk outside ice thawing and people outside yea that always happens the very asshiole who wants to shut teh ghostbusters down is there as well yea sure whatever
these idiots in hollyweird expect too much from us and the hard core ghostbuster fans are delusional to expect us to be satisfied with a pos movie full of memberries for stage one Alzheimer folks who need them toi hold onto what lil reality they can deal with . Time to check in a bunch of Ghostbusters into a special home.
Movie title should have been Frozen Afternoon, especially as the "Empire" lasted slightly less time than an afternoon.
Age of Ultron had the same problem, it consisted of a Few Days of Ultron.
I thought they would at least freeze the Empire State building and have a big fight there but no
At least Ultron was more threatening.
Based off of the existing trend of how long the First Reich, Second, and Third lasted, that's longer than the Fourth would last.
It's called frozen empire cause NYC is called the empire State
Fr 😂
Yeah, from the first time I saw those huge icicles stabbing up from the beach in the trailers I wondered how no one got skewered, lol.
Easy, the scriptwriter and effects team were ambitious but the studio execs would never allow the age rating to be bumped up through blood and people outside of the intro dying. Just like the brutality of Transformers being OK because it's not people or human blood that appears on screen.
@@Japaneseanimeguy Makes sense, but then if I were the writer I would have adjusted the scene to take away the icicles entirely and just have the place freeze up, or people freezing up. They already had that in the flashback at the start of the movie with the frozen guys locked in the room, so just do it again.
I think the fact that Phoebe only upgraded her proton pack and not the others deserves sins of their own.
I was more bothered by the fact that she apparently was able to melt brass in pot on the stove. A standard ass kitchen stove, that does not get anywhere near hot enough to melt brass.
@@TurinAlexander 1k plus to heat up brass / bronze where the hell is her heat protection. Legit that kinda heatr ya gonna be wearing soem protection to keep from 3rd degree burns. I love to see a gatekeeper Ghostbuster who is how dare ya point out facts do teh same in a kitchen. Hey reality check
Cast iron cookware can withstand high temperatures, up to 650°F, making it suitable for most heat sources. However, some cast iron can withstand temperatures of up to 1,500°F before significant damage occurs. For example, cooking a cast iron skillet directly over an open charcoal grill flame can heat it to around 700°F. However, enameled cast iron pans, like Le Creuset Dutch ovens, may only be safe up to 500°F due to their coating.
The melting point of brass is 1,700° F. Since brass is an alloy of copper, it maintains a relatively low melting point. Brass also requires specialized furnace equipment to provide a proper melt.
Hey lets melt brass in a kitchen UH NO Toxic fumes
www.wikihow.com/Melt-Brass#:~:text=Purchase%20a%20metal%20melting%20furnace,the%20brass%20easier%20to%20pour.
Yea Idiots in the Fandom obviously dont know real science. its all a cosplay to make them feel special like they matter and teh world is about them.
Yea go ahead make ya wannabe ghost hunting channels . we wil just lol at ya crybabies who are out of touch with reality
Also Also, which firepole did she cut that one piece off of? If Kumail tried going down that pole he woulda been fucked.
And dip the coils without said molten brass clump up with impurities. It painted itself without sticking the layers. If ny is being frozen by a demon, how the hell did the molten stay liquid long enough.
@@Moefongoe Well it couldn't have been that cold out, considering there are random shots later where you still see people still hanging around outside by hot dog carts and stuff instead of holing up in literally any building with central heating.
The amount of meta from the Mac and me joke will live in my head just like an alien watching a child in a wheelchair
Sin you missed: When Phoebe is upgrading her proton pack, she chops the station’s fire-pole up to melt its pieces. Yet a few scenes later, we see the fire-pole still in one piece.
we actually see more than one after that.
fire houses would have multiple poles
There are two (maybe three) poles. Would've been nice if team dumb could've made that clear.
Firehouse has 3
Came here to post this! They used it TWICE after she cut it, right at chest height mind you.
Man that Omni magazine sin is a legitimately awesome point. I would watch the hell out of a movie where some rando decides to build a pack and then start a competing business.
It happened in the comics. A guy created Ghost Smashers with his own equipment basted off of stolen plans. Later, he joined up with the team.
@@NekoFallenwhat’s the title
I had asked my dad if he wanted to watch Frozen Empire when it came to our local theater, he said yeah. When we went, I took my Ghostbusters costume I bought from Spirit Halloween (outfit, proton pack, PKE Meter, the works) & put it on in the parking lot. I walked thru the doors & surprised the workers. One guy said "lemme guess, Ghostbusters?" to which I replied "that or Sex & The City, whichever comes first" 😁 They had said they never expected to see anyone in costume for any movies there. They took pictures & we cracked jokes. It was fun. I had always wanted to go to a premier dressed up in costume. And to do it with my dad was even greater.
Wholesome story ❤ I bet your father had so much fun with you!
Have a wonderfull day!
What is the search feature on "proton pack"? I've never seen that in a comment.
Slappy, how old are you?
Aww, that's so cute, you and your dad must have had a fun day.
Omg that’s so cool! I love dressing up to go to the movies! I’m gonna go to Beetlejuice Beetlejuice with his striped jacket and a green wig 😅
You didn't add a sin for when Phoebe visits the park alone at night with her chess board? That made no sense at all. Well worthy of a sin.
I was under the impression that she went there to play both sides by herself. You see her reaching across the board to move a piece before the ghost moves it for her
I figured she was hoping Egon would play. But fair sin.
Nothing in this movie or the last made ANY SENSE
@@Bjjgg-t1z That's because the writing has been terrible
@ghostbusterscollector8593 well yeah no shit. Even though i give gb 2 a pass, it started back then
The slime was PINK in Ghostbusters 2. Physical effects supervisor Chuck Gasper created different colored batches of the slime, which was made from Methacel, a vegetable-based gel, and food coloring. Director Ivan Reitman chose Pink.
The slime in GB2 was wildly inconsistent. In some shots it looks like Pepto, and in others, looks like really thick Cabernet.
Methocel is the trademarked spelling. A simplification of methylcellulose. Also, it's Gaspar not Gasper.
NEEERRRRRRRDD!!!!
Sorry. I watch way too much Cinemasins, and just couldn't help myself; because I too, am now an asshole.
@@LextheRobot"Gasper, not Gasper"? 🤔
@@RirtyDascalMmm...chocolate D'oh!!
Ghostbusters just wanted to go for a walk.
A very enthusiastic walk.
Love the Hellsing reference
Love the Hellsing reference
Mom: "Trevor, put Phoebe back on the phone."
Trevor: "She said she was going for a wa..."
Mom: "NOOO!!!!"
My problem with this film is that it feels like we are missing an entire section of the story. Big ghost breaks free and then it’s just final battle time. They really should’ve had more ghost busting. The only ghost to get caught the standard way is the one at the beginning of the film.
I agree insteadof more ghostbusting it was we need to check boxes
It's a common problem in movies that struggle to balance like 20 main characters. It takes them over half the film to do what another movie might have accomplished in the first 30 minutes. They built up Garraka in the marketing like he was going to be this really cool threat, and we spent significantly more time with a ghost that just possesses chairs and trash bags and stuff.
NYC should’ve been frozen for atleast 20-30 minutes. With the Spengler family saving the rest of the team.
It was really more like Frozen District
It was good movie
Yep. And the Age of Ultron was like 40% the Age of Vision.
very chilly residential area
Tiny empire😅
Frozen Block.
Would love a Ghostbusters movie about the ethics of Ghostbusting. Like how some Ghostbusters would want to capture any spirit malevolent or not, while others would see some spirits as good and benevolent. I think it would be an interesting take to see the Ghostbusters fighting to save some ghosts from a rival company.
They do hint at other “Ghostbusters” with the introduction of the Fire Masters
I thought that was what they were going for with ghost girl. Then they didn’t really do nothing about it.
This entire plot reminds me of the cartoon episode where a powerful spirit was trapped instde a musical stone that only Winston could shut down and was done in the museum too.
Wasn't there one where the stone lion came to life, too? I know there was one where appliances got posessed.
Well the producers were fans of The Real Ghostbusters and said they wanted this movie to be more like an episode of the cartoon, so I guess they succeeded.
You sinned the fact that the Mini Pufts weren't controlled by Garraka, yet you didn't sin the fact that neither was Slimer.
Yeah, I was looking for a comment that mentioned this! Poor Slimer isn’t even mentioned in this vid XD
Slimer is too powerful to be controlled by anybody. The director didn't even put him in the movie, he added himself.
Slimer is one of the weakest ghosts in the entire franchise.
@@Farzlepot yeeeeeeessssss he’s always been my favourite lmao he’s too strong 😭
@@khankake9576 One of the weakest but one of the most iconic. Maybe that is just my opinion. I will stand by it. No matter what anyone says. Fight me. I liked that he returned here.
But Bill Murray should be burried/retired someday. He had like 2 or 3 minutes of screen time. 2 scenes. He was just here to grab a paycheck and so people come to watch the movie. Come and watch the movie because he is in it. He contributed nothing whatsoever to the plot. He was doing experiments he did in the first movie. Blink and you missed this. And then strolled in from nowhere to the headquarters and be useless again. Same in Afterlife. In Antman and the Wasp: Quantumania as well. He was in a single scene. And was pretty much whisked off. There was like one more mention of him there but that was pretty much it... He is really wasted nowadays. He really fell since his time in Groundhog Day...
0:45 The Day After Tomorrow freezing of people scared the crap out of me when I was a kid.
@@rexlumontad5644 ok
7:00 One thing you missed here, it has not held ghosts since 1984. The ghosts captured in 1984 were released and the Ghostbusters were shut down until 1989. So it only housed ghosts caught since 1989.
The Impression was that thousands died in the flash frost . but i guess that didn't happen huh
@@yukinagato6761 between that and COVID there should have been plenty who don't take the light beam.
To be fair, the containment unit had 198 traps fed into from Summerville, which contained Gozer and all of its minions, which included 2, class-6 possessors, Vinz Chlortho and Zuul.
The fact that you counted that deserves a sin
How do you now💀?
I don't think those traps were emptied into the containment unit - if they had, then Gozer would be loose again, trying to take over the world. I just assumed they are still buried in the ground in Summerville. It's been established that the ghost traps have an apparently very long lasting power supply (I remember Egon saying in GB2 that the batteries in the proton packs alone had a half life of 10,000 years or something like that).
I was honestly pretty pleased with the movie.
It's by no mean a great film but, really, the first Ghostbusters already had a very light plot with very convenient plot devices and with a completely wonky lore. We all love it mainly because of the characters/cast in this particular overall concept.
Frozen Empire feels like an old Ghostbusters cartoon episode. We all know it's not the real deal but it's still light-hearted fun.
Ah yes your hand would totally be ok after touching an object that is supposed to be “absolute zero”
15:45 reminds me of that Ghostbuster Videogame where you eventually DO have to deal with the Library Ghost.
she blocks your shots with a bunch of books, making it rather frustrating, but not really hard.
Phoebe is supposed to be Spanglers granddaughter, but when she says "the hells kitchen sewer dragon", she's clearly channeling Stanz
Shes been spending a lot more time with Ray now that they’re in NYC, so she’s probably picked up a lot from him
it doesn't take long when ya in a place to pick up such things. in the south ya get into calling folks Mr and Miss as that is how folks are addressed . esp if ya a kid
Spengler after Oswald Spengler historian.
I've been waiting for this video since the credits rolled in the theater.
same
This movie exists. _DING!_
0:21 George R.R. Martin is still busy writing up some messed up lore about Elden Ring and its DLC, Shadow of the Erdtree.
6:57: There is an opportunity for another sin here- I beg to differ about the ghost count in the storage grid. Walter Peck made the ConEd worker shut the grid off in the original film, releasing the ghosts caught up to that point. Unless the Ghostbusters very rapidly repaired and refilled that grid, there should not be that many ghosts in there. *DING*
how did walter pech get into teh office . I just know walter had to have a judge in his pocket.
A Reality check . SO
Ghostbusters face Gozer
Choose your Destruction
Ray thinks Stay Puft
. Why didn't Stay Puft appear on the spot vs walk
Oh hey uh a he walked teh streets of NYC to go to kill the ghostbusters did Gozer as Stay Puft make sure not to step on folks and styuff i mean lets be real the damage and loss of life . just being real folks
Unless teh judge is paid off so Mr ConEd man Walter told ya to turn if off . right ? Yes !
Walter Peck you are responsible for 400 Million dollars in damages and the loss of 30 civilians the court fines you 900 Million Dollars and in the case of the 30 deaths thanks to you that will be handled in a separate court case if it was me the judgement is 30 life sentences
Ray , Egon, Winston, Peter . your free to go .
The Govt walks in and says hey we wanna fund ya research and here is some bank we as the fellas are taken down by the govt to steal the technology , yea conspiracy time
I liked Afterlife because the connection and tribute to Egon but honestly….this franchise can’t move forward with these kids and mom being the core group of Ghostbusters. I mean seriously?
The girl was cool, but she's too old now to be the precocious but awkward pre-teen that no one listens to because she's too young even though she's totally right anymore. That was kinda what made her character likable in Afterlife. She's just kind of a brat in Frozen Throne.
I saw that movie.....The end finale was the only part that really lived up to the name GHOSTBUSTERS.
@@blackbirdfrost I don't have a major problem with her character but she CAN NOT lead this franchise in future movies and she is the focal point right now. She isn't that strong of a character that audiences want to see in a GB film moving forward.
@MrMJmusicLover I liked Afterlife before it became a shot for shot remake of 84. Then, the whole movie is pointless. Same with Frozen Empire. The Spenglers are only there because of their last name. Even Phoebe is pointless when the research team was revealed. Why was she not part of it?
Movie sucked
The diner scene where podcast and phoebe try to capture melody proved how this doesn’t work. It’s two kids with nuclear explosives on their backs….trying to catch a ghost in a public diner.
Great timing! Literally watched this a few nights ago.
Garraka waging war on humanity despite only having beef with the king is like with Lamia where Zeus basically goes “ok so you’ve been forced to eat every child we’ve had, now I’ll turn you into a snake lady with extra powers everyone forgets exist so you can take revenge on Hera” only for Lamia to take revenge by becoming what is basically a boogeyman that also on top of eating children lures men into her home to kill them despite that having nothing to do with revenge at all
Yeah, those ancient gods are unstable as F*CK.
Melting point for brass is 1700 F - dipping those sensitive electronics in molten brass wouldn't simply gum them up, it would vaporize most of them, never mind you can't melt brass in the oven.
@4:35 - I would love to see a Ghostbuster movie where there's competition from other Egons out there.
4:32 I like to believe egon put a patent on the proton pack
Wouldn't just have to tweak things just a little and call it something else to get around that though?
Patents only last 20 years, it would be expired by now.
The Ghostbusters song was literally in Ghostbusters 2 so yeah it's feasible.
Finally something good again 👍
Yes exactly!! It seems like it's been a while. Always have great videos tho!
Awesome Work Bro, Thanks!!! Greetings from Helsinki, Finland
2:02 Yugi: I summon Hell’s Kitchen Sewer Dragon, in attack mode! 🐉
Not so fast geardog24! You've activated my Ghost Trap, a costly mistake!
Omg you mentioned Angles in the Outfield, will you please sin that movie???
"Marjory the Trash Heap." I see what you did there.
The one sin I actually expected while watching the movie, didn’t make it. I totally heard in my head “The Ghostbusters graduated from the Prometheus school of running away from things” when the possessor tried to run them over with the ECTO.
The next Ghostbusters' movie should involve the extreme Ghostbusters.
Jeff Kline and Richard Raynis send their regards.
This Ghostbusters movie should have been the Extreme versions.
The next ghostbusters movie should not be made. Tired of these garbage movies. They should've stopped after 1988
I kid you not, I just got around to watching this movie LAST NIGHT. Talk about perfect timing lol.
I appreciated the "Searching for Bobby Fischer" reference, love that movie. 👍
I wanted to love this movie but i was so bored i was taken out of the movie. I found what point i was taken out was when Phoebe sees the ghost girl at the diner after they got the call. After that, i checked out. Those 2 are boring af.
The pacing was just so clunky. Too many characters.
Garraka, my favorite mortal combat character. This crossover stuff is getting crazy.
When you remember that the 1984 original and 1989 sequel both reminded the kids in the theater that adults were to be entertained, too.
How? By subtle porno references, of course! First film, believe it or not, featured an uncredited Ron Jeremy as a bystander looking up at the explosive Firehouse on North Moore Street just as Ecto-1 comes into frame. He's to the extreme left of the screen looking like live action Mario. Some porn flicks were still shot in NYC back when principal photography for Ghostbusters occurred. So dear old Ivan Reitman probably thought: HEY, BILL'S A FAN OF RON. LET'S HAVE HIM CAMEO!😂
Speaking of Mr. Murray, where's the porn reference in GHOSTBUSTERS 2, you ask?
Just after bathtub slimer tries to cop a feel from Dana, she flees with baby Oscar to Peter's place. Funny how her character had no qualms about running to HIM and no other Ghostbuster at that moment! At any rate, there's a moment where Peter has Dana in his bedroom with Oscar, and he name drops a certain Italian Erotica actress whose videotapes he happens to own. Go look up the scene, then Google Image her WORK.😂❤
I just got braces put on me. This makes the aftermath much more bearable.
Loves the Cloverfield shot in the end
19:01 - Michael J. Fox did this in The Frighteners to take on ghostly Jake Busey.
I hadn't known this movie existed and I wish I could rewind time 5 minutes.
Lol @ CGI Aim assist... I love it! Love the videos! Keep'em coming.
21:52 The proton pack uses "a stream of highly focused and radially polarized protons" which can be considered plasma, and fire (or rather the flame) is also plasma, so it makes sense that Nadeem can control it.
and yet in Ghostbusters 2 Ray and Winston are doing childrens parties with these devices
Ray is Hey Winston watch the pack i gotta hit teh head . Some hot woman is hitting On Winston as he is not watching the pack as a kid starts to flip soem buttons and switches and his dad was a oh they are jokes as he pushes a button and says hey brad i am gonna catch ya opps melts Brad . Yea uh huh
When ghosts were gone they became Crime Busters using the proton packs are quite powerful and lethal.
I know it's still early, but please sin 'An American Werewolf in London' and 'Beetlejuice' this October 🙏
Guess the cold never bothered the Ghostbusters anyway.
The crossing the streams thing happened in previous films in the franchise!
The big issue I have with this film is that so much was cut it hinders the film quite a lot. So much shit in the trailers that actually should’ve been there. Ugh.
I saw this movie just now on Netflix. Bill Murray, Dan Akroyd, and Ernie Hudson still got it. RIP Harold Ramis 🪦
Been looking forward to this one 😅
You might get a cold chill on this sin also drop a sin for bringing the mascot slimer back after not bein in "Afterlife"
Who finally got the chance to do something that seamlessly took the Possesor ghost out!
Afterlife had a Slimer ripoff.
@@Tim.Stotelmeyer Ripoff? Stand in and more dangerous.
THE COLD NEVER BOTHERED US ANYWAY!
4:06 -- There is so much traffic at that intersection at any daylight hour you could never drive that fast without going on the sidewalks... which I have seen at that intersection.
When you guys do your Twisters sins, please add this one. In the first scene, and throughout the move, the CB radios aren’t even plugged into antennas
Red slime?!🤨 IT'S PINK SLIME
47 minutes go by, and Bill Murray finally shows up!
Please do The Sandlot
I wanna see more 80's movies. He does too many modern ones.
Ok, so that red thing can posses a lion that's made of stone or whatever and so it moves as a lion because that's the shape, although its just a piece of rock. Why it doesn't do the same when posses the vaccum cleaner or other stuff? it can clearly make stuff change it's original shape, in this case, just a sitting lion that may not have certain parts of it's body even sculpted.
EDIT: well, there's the jumping pizza, so, I think it's a bit selective.
Can you imagine what smelly, stinky, horrifying end the Possessor ghost got trapped in when Slimer devoured it whole?
Is it possible that the ghost has no imagination?
I was thinking the same thing when you did that cutaway with the ferris wheel. Actually there's a few things in this video that you said that I was actually thinking while watching a movie.
Remove a sin for the fire hoses - those are for attaching to water mains inside the building.
The last fifteen seconds of this video is priceless.... I'm sorry.The last minute and a 1/2 where you changed the voices out.I was dying laughing on everything and I almost had to replay at 5. 6 times
8:09 Another curious thing about this chess position before the checkmate, look at where Melody's knight is. Why didn't Phoebe take it with her G pawn? Even with the light square bishop guarding it, Phoebe would still be up the exchange. What move did she make instead?
9:12, How did the checkmate happen soon after this? What was guarding the queen? I ask of course, because if we go back to when she moved the pinned knight, Melody somehow has 2 light square bishops and no dark square bishop. We clearly see the king behind the queen, meaning that she's not guarded by a rook. The only way she could be covered in this position is with a dark square bishop on A3. Now it's possible that the bishop pinning the knight to the king was meant to BE on A3 instead of A4, which would make the knight move legal, stupid but legal.
When you have two light square bishops, anything can happen.
I have to admit that marshmallow smoking themself is funny.
Noticed how you skipped the Phoebe love interest scenes.
Forced in and unnecessary, it’s good that he skipped them
Then you will have also noticed CinemaSins always skips relationship scenes, no matter the movie or the relationship.
@@Foxtrot369 precisely, they’re almost never necessary, and are forced
@@sledger2066 Then shouldn't they be sinned?
@@Kardur_Wrath_of_the_Abyss it’ll piss people off if he does
21:42 lmao, harsh but hilarious 😂
I loved the ghostbusters growing up and yes I'm sad that the writing in newer movies is so spoon fed now. but normally I wouldn't be on you side about the Paul Rudd comment and i wasn't planning on it. that being said then you had to make the mac in me joke from Paul Rudd and Connan's long history of clips and I laughed for SOOO long. I'm removing ten sins off of you. well played cinemasins well played.
I wondered the same thing about the stone lion. We watched Pheobe obliterate it earlier in the movie but now it's suddenly back and pristine again like nothing happened? It's pulling the same ex-machina bulls#%t as the Statue of Liberty in Ghostbusters II. * DING! *
Also, the continued presence of the gray lady at the library suggests that the events of the video game, in which she was finally trapped, were not officially canon which is a sin in and of itself. * DING! *
Didn't even Dan Aykroyd or someone acknowledge that the game was basically meant to be Ghostbusters 3? Although it would be funny to see them try to acknowledge the rookie character in the newer movies. "Yeah, we had a fifth Ghostbuster. Dude went on like one adventure with us and then just quit."
@maryannclementiii-uw5pk Yep, I remember that guy. We never did find out his name either. In fact come to think of it, he never really said much of anything. Freakin' wierdo.
Im beginning to think there is a non 0 chance CinemaSins has watched at least one Ludwig video and I love that.
I was so hoping you would go over that Chess game in depth and by God you did thanks!!
Good times folks, good times.
ghostbusters the video game adds a ton of lore and i personally love it and consider it canon. gives the library ghost an awesome backstory
Calling her a hooker had me dead!😂
The botez reference is lovely
Ghostbusters was always about science going against the supernatural. This movie changed that by having a supernatural fighter on their side.
Eh, Slimer's been around since movie one, and he's neutral-to-good; and the whole Statue of Liberty setpiece in the second film was pretty soundly fighting the supernatural with the supernatural.
Ghostbusters has always been about a ragtag band of nerds fighting the supernatural with whatever they could get their hands on, really. 'Science' just happens to usually be page one of the nerd playbook.
The marshmallow men remind me more of Rabbids than Minions.
Have you seen the Tobin Spirit Guide? You can get either either hard bound or soft. It looks great.
Ladder 8 doesn’t carry hose, their Firehouse was originally a double house during the year it took place, and the front pieces on their helmets should be red.
Amazing channel
Little fun fact: Apparently the makeshift helmet they put on Nadeem for his interrogation is a jab at the 2016 film
It's funny that they did that, thinking they were making a better movie...
I thought it was the same helmet (made from a colander) that Egon put on Rick Moranis in the very first film.
@@Foxtrot369 Meanwhile, both movies have ghosts that somehow look like dragons.
@@MICHAEL-vy3ch It is supposed to be the same helmet Tully wore. The one she wears in the 2016 movie was inspired by the original one. I'm not sure how anyone came to the conclusion that it was supposed to be the other way around.
4:25 bc sully ditched his plane in the Hudson - a calm River. Something already documented as very much a doable thing. See aeroflot 366. Half a century before sully’s and done by a captain more than half of sully’s age.
But also bc he was highly introverted and a license deal would be difficult with his personality. If anyone is getting a license deal it’s it’s the pilot from the Gimli Glider
The whole movie was all about showing Easter eggs from the og stuff. Who ever made this movie has lost their brain cells
I thought it was a stupid idea to mix Ghostbusrers with Avatar, Last Airbender.
Did he call the slime in Ghostbusters II red?
I wish they'd done this movie closer to the originals.
Love it! Biggest sin for me though... in a city full of ghosts, that's been almost-destroyed by giant ghosts multiple times, where everyone knows (from near-death experiences) ghosts are real... the city has invested zero effort in a government anti-ghost force and the mayor is going off on / trying to fire the totally underfunded private anti-ghost unit. Which gets stupider in the lion scene were the police there were about to... what... shoot bullets into the giant statue that got possessed? What is the logic behind blaming the ghostbusters while having zero backup plan to deal with ghosts if they do, in fact, clap off.
You should do Romeo and Juliet 1996
The first day of fire school is you don't test the temperature with the palm of your hand, if you must touch you use the back of your hand!
I learned that in grade school.
You gotta do the VeggieTales movies. There’s two of them and think both should deserve some justice
Wait...they made another one .....WHYYYYYYYYYY
Btw. I hope he is right 16:40
I didn't even realize this movie had come out.... must have really been popular
Cannibal Girls is Ivan Reitman’s first film
don't expect this channel to know that kind of stuff. its all about longer videos, more "sins", and clicks and likes and subscribers, nothing to do with content
@ 7:05: red slime? RED? IT'S PINK AND YOU KNOW IT, JEREMY 😭
Honestly - and I say this with love - splitting hairs has its place 😅
The biggest problem with these sequels is trying to turn Ghostbusters into a family movie franchise, the second biggest problem with these sequels is that it treats the ghost busters legacy a bit too seriously. Ghostbusters is an 80s comedy ala Animal house. Not an epic adventure, and it loses a bit of its identity every time they try to make it such