How To Test and Diagnose Relays and Wiring [4 & 5 Pin]

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  • @thegrave2000
    @thegrave2000 2 місяці тому +16

    Finally someone who explains in detail how relays work and how to test them. Thanks a lot, appreciate it!

  • @markiefufu
    @markiefufu Рік тому +29

    I'm glad I ran across your video. I tried watching other videos and reading how-tos. None of them made sense to me as they weren't explaining how the relay works. They were only showing how to test with whatever relay they had on hand. It didn't help at all. After your video, I can test my relays in seconds and now that's I know how they work I'll never forget this how.

    • @jctedsap
      @jctedsap 3 місяці тому +1

      My thoughts exactly! Have played with automotive electrical for decades and never understood relays. Not anymore.

  • @teenice894
    @teenice894 8 місяців тому +15

    Ive been wrenching for 10yrs and been avoiding electrical testing. Time to take it head on as I'm doing lots of repairs as a side job for extra income. Once i master my diagnosis skills my price is going up!

    • @tmo2798
      @tmo2798 3 місяці тому +1

      Let's call it a 'consultation'.

  • @artis813
    @artis813 Рік тому +16

    This was a great and simple explanation of how relays works and how to troubleshoot if the relay is good. Thanks. Keep it up.

  • @tonya6915
    @tonya6915 24 дні тому +4

    Some one said, why he talks so much. If you really want to learn something. Then listen to the whole thing. Anyway I loved the video. Now I know how to check relays. Thank you so much for your time.

  • @ramindadseresht4074
    @ramindadseresht4074 Рік тому +11

    You can even use a flat 9 volt battery and perform the tests. It worked for me. Excellent video man👍

  • @DuelistMandroid
    @DuelistMandroid Рік тому +6

    Best relay testing video on the internet!❤ Thanks for sharing this.

    • @Shoptoolreviews
      @Shoptoolreviews  Рік тому +2

      Wow, thank you! That's why we do it. Thanks for watching.

  • @jamdc2000
    @jamdc2000 2 роки тому +8

    This video goes straight into favourites,
    thanks Tim, and take care.

  • @dancin4
    @dancin4 Рік тому +15

    Relays and solenoids are considered high current switches a lot of people are unaware of this. Yes the control side 85/86 is switched by the computer most times in an automotive application. Great video and I love that meter.

  • @SparkyGentle1
    @SparkyGentle1 Рік тому

    Thanks!

    • @Shoptoolreviews
      @Shoptoolreviews  Рік тому

      You bet! Glad we could help. Thanks for watching and thanks for gift.

  • @wiretamer5710
    @wiretamer5710 6 місяців тому +1

    Watch half a dozen of these, and yours is the one that worked for me. Thank you.

  • @energy102
    @energy102 Рік тому +5

    The best and most complete explanation I've seen. Thank you.

  • @s.j.5850
    @s.j.5850 15 днів тому

    Good basic information on how a relay works. Thanks for showing the Kaweets multimeter, it's the first time I'm seeing it. Look forward to more of your videos.

  • @edwardpurcell2905
    @edwardpurcell2905 9 місяців тому +2

    This actually sense to me now. I still have questions and some confusion as to why a relay works for a short period then stops. However I now can begin going back through my system

  • @theroastbeefking
    @theroastbeefking 4 місяці тому +1

    So glad i found this video. I finally understand how relays work. Thank you

  • @markyakubovsky3380
    @markyakubovsky3380 9 місяців тому +2

    Great stuff man.. Thx!! I am sitting here at my desk with my fluke and power supply feeling like an absolute Genius thanks to you..

  • @abdirahmanhabib398
    @abdirahmanhabib398 Рік тому +2

    This is just superb. Well explained nothing unnecessary and to the point. Thanks.

  • @louisroman7134
    @louisroman7134 2 роки тому +3

    Thanks for sharing, it's helping get out of the rabbit hole.

  • @fixityourself5713
    @fixityourself5713 10 місяців тому +1

    I been wanting to learn the process and this was an excellent video. Thanks!

  • @kordellsouthall7805
    @kordellsouthall7805 Рік тому +1

    Appreciate the video. This is what I struggle with at school. I understand it now.

  • @tombryant7955
    @tombryant7955 Рік тому +4

    I didn't have a 12-volt battery so I used a 12v battery tender for power. It performed both tests perfectly without worrying about damaging the relays.

  • @joeellison-z2n
    @joeellison-z2n 5 місяців тому +1

    Great video, I always knew what a relay did just didn’t know how it did it Thanks for talking in layman’s terms.

  • @josephbragg1162
    @josephbragg1162 2 місяці тому

    Great video. I was looking into buying a new multimeter and this new one with chargeable battery and the auto feature looks amazing and only being 40 something dollars on Amazon is a great buy. Thank you. I'm buying one now.

  • @nicholasscurti8001
    @nicholasscurti8001 Рік тому +4

    I had a little understanding of relays, when I tried to add fog/driving lights on my '72 Toyota Corolla & a little background in electronics. However, I never completely understood what the numbers stood for & exactly which terminals did what, even though I successfully wired the lights. Now, as an old guy, you helped really understand. Thanks!!!

    • @markiefufu
      @markiefufu Рік тому

      I'm in the exact same situation. Took electronic classes in HS and learned more in the army. Being in my late 50s, I am finally a pro with relays. Lol.

  • @topeka409
    @topeka409 6 місяців тому

    Diagnostic question maybe answered from this video. I had clicking lights in the interior and windshield wipers. They drained my battery. I am going to try this now! Thanks for the great video. Easy to understand

  • @ThunderbirdRocket
    @ThunderbirdRocket Рік тому +2

    Super helpful ! Extraordinary detail !! I learned lots !!! Thanks mate !!!!

  • @hittz8331
    @hittz8331 Рік тому +1

    Great video guys. I learned alot and got more understanding on the subject. Thanks Much

  • @jontnoneya3404
    @jontnoneya3404 9 місяців тому

    This was really cool - I would love to see more about this. Specifically how you walk through a real problem when it's not some major component like a relay or a fuse.
    I'm dealing with a fuel pump that's not working. Motorcycle sat for 8 years with fuel in the tank so I knew I needed to replace it. Since I was already in the tank, I replaced everything previously in the tank....the fuel pump, pressure regulator, fuel filter, float sending unit, all fuel hoses, wiring harness. Now the problem is when I turn on the ignition, the pump still doesn't sound. I added 2 gal of gas and still nothing. I even made a long hook so I could manually change the float sending unit and the level on the fuel gauge didn't change.
    SO I'm thinking it's not getting any power to the pump. Fuses were fine - I checked the continuity and they're great. Changed both relays cuz they're old and cheap....still nothing. NOW I'm going to have to test the voltage at the relay and walk it forward but I don't know exactly how to do that. I'm also thinking I should check the plug on the outside of the tank that delivers power inside the tank. However I tried doing that but I'm honestly not sure if what I'm seeing is what it should be. It's confusing when you've never done this stuff.

  • @victormendoza6306
    @victormendoza6306 Рік тому

    Loved this video show something how easy it is to test relay before replacing in a wrong way

  • @AlvinDelaPaz-ni3jd
    @AlvinDelaPaz-ni3jd Місяць тому

    Thank you so much for the clear and easy tutorial.

  • @kleenmaint
    @kleenmaint Рік тому +6

    Thanks. You explained the 87a which the other videos didn't make as clear. I ordered a repair manual. I hope the wiring diagrams are helpful. Getting prepped so when my starter doesn't turn over next time I can see if bypassing the relay will work and start to narrow down my problem.

  • @meirzeevi3618
    @meirzeevi3618 Рік тому +2

    Best explanation ever . Thanks a lot

  • @samuelbrooks7854
    @samuelbrooks7854 11 місяців тому +1

    thank you for your video it been a big help

  • @MikeyMack303
    @MikeyMack303 11 місяців тому

    Thank you. That was a very good demonstration of those types of relays.

  • @moturcu4226
    @moturcu4226 29 днів тому

    100% clear explanation.

  • @alfredoverno9674
    @alfredoverno9674 8 місяців тому +3

    Sir, YOU make this video easy to watch. your teaching mannerisms are most helpful. thank you for breaking it down to my level. great stuff. I subbed based on this video.

  • @bobbyg4100
    @bobbyg4100 11 місяців тому

    Excellent Video, great explanation of Relay functions. Love the test board and your Stainless Table to write on . Great Camera angle also 🙏God Bless You.

  • @fix135
    @fix135 6 місяців тому +5

    My only quibble is that it's not a resistor between 85 and 86, it's a coil that, when energized, creates the magnetic field to pull the relay switch to close the 87 and 30 contacts.

    • @bernardocisneros4402
      @bernardocisneros4402 2 місяці тому

      Some relays have a resistor across 85 and 86 to mitigate the destroying effects of a back EMF spike. Some relays even use diodes instead of resistors

  • @jeffcantley9203
    @jeffcantley9203 Рік тому

    Very nice presentation with model straight to the point an extremely easy to understand thank you so much.

  • @martymcmannis6581
    @martymcmannis6581 3 місяці тому

    Great job letting us know about them explanation went a long ways
    Thanks a lot

  • @benniedonald
    @benniedonald Рік тому +1

    Best video on relays I have seen yet. ❤l

  • @johnnielewis9896
    @johnnielewis9896 7 місяців тому +2

    thanks a lot...and the key is infrequently review and/or practice this application in order to retain it... peace

  • @WarriorsPhoto
    @WarriorsPhoto Місяць тому +1

    Amazing video. 😊
    Electrical on cars is simple. At least the basics are. 😊😂😊

  • @apolomauai7890
    @apolomauai7890 Рік тому

    very good demonstration, made me understand, great guy!

  • @fryefamilyband
    @fryefamilyband 10 місяців тому

    Very thorough! Thanks so much!

  • @JulioSerrano-hr6sz
    @JulioSerrano-hr6sz Рік тому +1

    Thenk you for the video is helpful God bless you.

  • @seanmiller8507
    @seanmiller8507 5 місяців тому

    Great video! Smart and thorough! 5 star rating and thumbs up!

  • @laskeysikazwe1770
    @laskeysikazwe1770 Місяць тому

    Wow, professionally explained and quite informative 👏👏👏👏

  • @lasorelay
    @lasorelay 11 місяців тому

    Good Testing! Very helpful for me

  • @BeldenTopo
    @BeldenTopo 4 місяці тому

    Love this explanation ❤️💯
    Very clear

  • @theprofessor5584
    @theprofessor5584 Рік тому

    Great video on electrical relays

  • @StormitheTC
    @StormitheTC 4 місяці тому +1

    This was a great video. Thank you.
    I’m wondering…can you then reverse and remove a component from this? If it’s a 5 prong feeding a faulty antitheft system preventing a vehicle from starting, can we eliminate the system and put a four prong to bypass?

  • @mikebren11
    @mikebren11 5 місяців тому

    Outstanding, well done!

  • @DieselMike
    @DieselMike Рік тому

    Excellent, excellent video.

  • @danielcookeb90
    @danielcookeb90 Місяць тому

    Great video my friend. Well put. Maybe some more specific examples as used in the switching process' in the car would really embed the learning. Knowing there is a high and low side is key, but how they interact in the different automotive situations ( indicators, pumps, etc ) exactly wouldbegreat, but maybe that video would be too long!
    Super video, I'm ordering the crocodile clips!

  • @jamesmasona4234
    @jamesmasona4234 8 місяців тому

    thanks so much for valuable information my car can now start, it was showing all those symptoms

  • @effdeeash
    @effdeeash Рік тому

    Thanks for this video, with your help I think I just found the reason for my car not starting. 🎉

    • @Shoptoolreviews
      @Shoptoolreviews  Рік тому

      Great to hear! That's why we do it. Thanks for sharing.

    • @Nicole-dj3jf
      @Nicole-dj3jf Рік тому

      Question my battery cable end keeps coming loose alternator changed funs fine for a month then bam everything dies battery was 13 when started alternator shows 15 amps im getting so upset paying all these people to fix my car the battery end is not the normal ends that most vars have please help 2011 3.6 chevy Malibu ltz any help please

    • @konstantin-big
      @konstantin-big 11 днів тому

      @@Nicole-dj3jf
      Hey
      Did you find the solution on your problem????

  • @zimway57
    @zimway57 Рік тому +1

    Can I just use a spare 12 volt mower battery with some alligator clip wires to energize the relay while testing? Do I risk damaging relay? GREAT video and explanation

  • @seus1985
    @seus1985 Місяць тому

    Thank you sir for the help

    • @Shoptoolreviews
      @Shoptoolreviews  Місяць тому

      You're very welcome. Glad we could help. Thanks for watching.

  • @dawsondemontiney1247
    @dawsondemontiney1247 Місяць тому

    awesome video sir!

  • @MikeSmith-xg5zt
    @MikeSmith-xg5zt 4 місяці тому

    Great video!!! Very informive!!

  • @jalton9416
    @jalton9416 Рік тому

    Excellent video. You are a great teacher.

  • @RobertMattison-pp6uf
    @RobertMattison-pp6uf 8 місяців тому

    Great video, informative on to work with relays.

  • @pitchforkpeasant6219
    @pitchforkpeasant6219 Рік тому

    Awesome video! Amazing how such a simple thing doesnt have such easy to understand videos such as yours👍👍

  • @Hoodozhnik1978
    @Hoodozhnik1978 7 місяців тому

    Wow... Thank you! Amazing video

  • @JoseHernandez-lf6cr
    @JoseHernandez-lf6cr 2 роки тому +2

    Great information 😊

  • @brianhickman9816
    @brianhickman9816 3 місяці тому

    Great video. Thank you

  • @angelgomez7917
    @angelgomez7917 2 роки тому +1

    Nice! For us who enjoy mechanics but not so much electronic

  • @Edward135i
    @Edward135i Місяць тому

    I'd say most ECU's would use grounds to control the relays, that's how all of the aftermarket ones i've used worked to control the fuel injection for instance because they aren't designed to have high amps passing through them.

  • @rcclassiccrawlers4368
    @rcclassiccrawlers4368 Рік тому +1

    Stumbled upon your channel. Very cool episode, learned something I’ve always wanted to know about. Thanks a bunch! Subscribed!!

  • @justanother67camaro32
    @justanother67camaro32 Рік тому

    Go to test power across 85/86 and pop, smoke, awesome!!! Going to guess that's complete junk now. Thanks👍🏻

  • @craigpadley3535
    @craigpadley3535 6 місяців тому

    Thanks Buddy that's helped me a lot 👍

  • @jamesmasona4234
    @jamesmasona4234 8 місяців тому

    thanks so much, that was valuable information

  • @debbied5607
    @debbied5607 8 місяців тому

    Very thorough, Great video. What does it mean when the 87a across 30 open and giving numbers jumping up to 6.7? Does this mean that it’s a bad relay?

  • @CamrynPratt-v9l
    @CamrynPratt-v9l Рік тому

    Excellent informative video thanks. Excellent info and great explanation!!! Thank you!.

  • @rbarr1200
    @rbarr1200 2 роки тому +3

    Nice vid!

  • @thesetruths1404
    @thesetruths1404 Рік тому

    This works sometimes: bang on relay. I had a horn relay that would not work. So I disconnected battery. Tugged, poked, whacked and shook relay. Would not come out. Read it had to be replaced with whole relay tray, or cut out. Hooked up battery to call it a night and presto it worked. I guess it was just stuck with a little corrosion. If does it again I'll drill 3 tiny holes in the top and spray silicone spray into relay to possibly fix corrosion issue for long time.

  • @frederiklansu270
    @frederiklansu270 2 роки тому

    Thanks for de info 👍🏻grts from Belgium

  • @RichardKobylt
    @RichardKobylt Рік тому

    Super helpful ! Thanks..

  • @davymoose3815
    @davymoose3815 8 місяців тому

    I GET IT !
    B/C If your relay is good there might be a problem somewhere else !!!? THANK YOU !!

  • @Photoshop.Expertise
    @Photoshop.Expertise 5 місяців тому

    AWESOME VIDEO!👍🏽🇺🇲 AND THE MOST HELPFUL IN EXCELLENT DETAILS! 👌🏽🇲🇽 YOU EVEN BOTHER TO GIVE US ADVICE AND LINKS ABOUT MULTIMETER THANKS A LOT MAN!
    🇲🇽🤜🏽💥🤛🏼🇺🇲

  • @HotRod4God72
    @HotRod4God72 8 місяців тому

    Great Video 😊. Im checking a random no start with a single click in a old 96 Toyota Camry. Can a relay switch sometimes work and sometimes not? Any information would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.

    • @bernardocisneros4402
      @bernardocisneros4402 2 місяці тому

      Yes, it's called intermittent operation. It could be the start relay, the starter solenoid, damaged wiring, dirty or corroded battery terminals, corroded wiring, or bad ground etc.

    • @konstantin-big
      @konstantin-big 22 дні тому +1

      I think you haven't relay in that car
      Maybe that clicking is coming from starter???
      Then you need an electrician

    • @HotRod4God72
      @HotRod4God72 22 дні тому

      @konstantin-big ty buddy. I fixed this back in July...It was indeed the starter.

    • @konstantin-big
      @konstantin-big 21 день тому

      @@HotRod4God72
      Ok

  • @laurentiuprisacariu9905
    @laurentiuprisacariu9905 2 місяці тому

    so useful!!

  • @antonioanghelescu4666
    @antonioanghelescu4666 2 місяці тому +1

    I tried to verify my headlight motorcycle relay everything was good until i tried to power it with a 12v parkside battery, when i touched the terminals with the wires it shorted… was the relay bad or did i do something wrong
    I put a wire to 86 on relay and - on battery and another wire on 85 relay and + battery

    • @bernardocisneros4402
      @bernardocisneros4402 2 місяці тому

      You did everything right. Just a coincidence. Unless it was a 6 volt rated relay.

    • @antonioanghelescu4666
      @antonioanghelescu4666 2 місяці тому

      @@bernardocisneros4402 thank you for your reply, it wasn’t a 6 volt relay, i took it off my motorcycle, i guess i am just lucky :)

  • @danielpollard9883
    @danielpollard9883 Рік тому

    U saved me today like thank u

  • @rileyandikeysplaytime5936
    @rileyandikeysplaytime5936 Місяць тому

    What about 87 & 87a "normally open & normally closed" like having an illuminated indicator lamp on when an accessory is in the off position?
    That's how I understood the difference between 4 and 5 pin relays.

  • @dinoquintana4319
    @dinoquintana4319 Рік тому

    Excellent informative video thanks

  • @tomt9543
    @tomt9543 6 місяців тому +2

    Between 85 & 86 you refer to it as a resistor. It’s actually an electromagnetic coil that pulls or releases the pivoting contact point, right? I’m sure has resistance, but it’s not a resistor in typical electronics terms. Great vid though!

    • @bernardocisneros4402
      @bernardocisneros4402 2 місяці тому

      See the answer I gave to @fix135 above. In addition to that, a coil is made of of loops of wire and wire has resistance, so technically it's also a resistor.

  • @Un_brainwashed
    @Un_brainwashed Рік тому

    Great job 👍

  • @anthonycollins9984
    @anthonycollins9984 10 місяців тому

    Because of the way you explained how to test a 4 pin and5 pin
    relay, I believe that I will be able to test a few relays on my
    1999 GMC Sierra truck. I noticed that you used a 12 volt
    battery with two short wires plugged into it. Where can I get
    a battery and the two short wire pieces from? I see that I can get
    the set of wire leads with the alligator ends attached from amazon.

  • @lightbright8888
    @lightbright8888 Рік тому

    Excellent info and great explanation!!! Thank you!

  • @robburdine5429
    @robburdine5429 Рік тому +1

    Helpful but you did not include anything on the last relay type the thin rectangular one. The one I needed that has no numbers marked next to the pins. So I cannot figure out how to check.Any suggestions on what kind of video might have that. What type of relay should I search for? Again helpful but never got to the last one. Shown but not mentioned or discussed so I am clueless on how to fix. If you can please advise. Thank you.

    • @Paul-ns8fr
      @Paul-ns8fr 8 місяців тому

      He said if the prongs line up its 85 and 86 the other prongs are the 85 and 30 the 85 86 are the low side the 85 and 30 are the load side.

  • @davideliasaguayo2744
    @davideliasaguayo2744 Рік тому

    Great video

  • @michaelcrawford7354
    @michaelcrawford7354 4 місяці тому +1

    I have this 5-pin relay that operates the electric chute deflector up and down on my Kubota snow blower. It is located under the hood but for some reason I keep getting water in the relay case and shorting the relay and causing parasitic drain on the battery. Any suggestions on how to eliminate the moisture in the relay case? It has me baffled because this is the only relay that has this problem. TIA

    • @bernardocisneros4402
      @bernardocisneros4402 2 місяці тому

      If water is getting in terminals 85,86,87, and 30, you can pack that with dielectric grease. If water is getting inside the coil housing, then apply RTV around the seam between the coil housing and relay body.

    • @konstantin-big
      @konstantin-big 22 дні тому

      You can change the position of the relay so that water does not enter the relay

  • @debby8793
    @debby8793 2 місяці тому +1

    The problem with 85-.86 is that it click sound but it's dirty at the contact therefore, it won't work.

    • @bernardocisneros4402
      @bernardocisneros4402 2 місяці тому

      That's why you should use a continuity test light between 30 & 87 and 30 & 87A. The continuity test light acts as a load to verify the integrity of the circuit.

  • @atheplummer
    @atheplummer 6 місяців тому +1

    Hmm. I've got relays that don't have 87. It has 87A, but not 87. I'm figuring out that this relay is on all the time, but when the control side is activated, it turns off. It is a 4 pin relay.
    The part # is FOOCLE FLS820-012-1B. There are absolutely zero that show up on a google search. The 1A & 1C show up, but not the 1B. Ironically, the others are 5 pin.
    On the front of the relay, there is a white tag that says:
    Red 12V DC
    White Relay control
    Yellow Pump A
    Blue Pump B
    I'm trying to use this relay to control a coil to a plug, for a Plasma spark ignition demonstration.
    I'm using a 12V DC LED strobe light controller to energize the relay, to simulate breaker points to fire a spark plug.
    This one is a head scratcher.

  • @blacksapphire5864
    @blacksapphire5864 4 місяці тому +1

    Can we not use the no 30 when using it for auxiliary light just to supply only the no. 87? Like I'm connecting the 85 to ignition switch and 86 is in the negative? And let the no 30 and 87a alone.

    • @bernardocisneros4402
      @bernardocisneros4402 2 місяці тому

      No, because terminal 30 is what provides power.

    • @konstantin-big
      @konstantin-big 22 дні тому

      ​@@bernardocisneros4402
      You can connect 85 to a switch so you can turn on the light
      86 you can connect to ground
      30 you can connect to B+ battery
      87 you can connect to auxiliary light

    • @bernardocisneros4402
      @bernardocisneros4402 22 дні тому

      @@konstantin-big But they don't want to use 30 and 87. Why use a relay if you're not going to use 30 and 87. You're better off using a butt connector and just using the ignition switch.
      You should always connect 85 to ground and 86 to positive side of control circuit. It will work the other way but it's technically incorrect. The next mechanic will assume 85 is connected to ground because that's what the standard says.

    • @konstantin-big
      @konstantin-big 21 день тому

      @@bernardocisneros4402
      I am a car electrician
      I have been in the profession since 1974
      If you use a relay then you haven't Voltage drop, and you can use a small switch to energize the relay

    • @bernardocisneros4402
      @bernardocisneros4402 11 днів тому

      @@konstantin-big If you've been a car electrician since 1974, then you should know why 85 should be connected to ground and 86 should be the switched terminal. I understand how to use a relay and the why and when to use it. I don't think you understood blacksapphire's question. Using a relay doesn't eliminate voltage drop it only reduces it. You're using a low current circuit to control a higher current circuit. It cuts down on using larger diameter wires but instead of only having one fused circuit, you'll have 2. One for the control side and one for the load side. Not only have I used relays but I've also designed them.

  • @djnagl
    @djnagl Рік тому +1

    Absolutely appreciate your explanation and hard work. I have a question that no one has been able to answer for me. I have a 20A fuel pump fuse that blows as soon as I hit my push/start button of which obviously doesn't allow me to start my car. I replace the fuse and as long as I don't try to start my car it doesn't blow, giving me the chance to check my plugs that go to my fuel pump module and the actual plug for my fuel pump under my back seat. I have power running to both plugs, continuity is fine and my fuse is still good so where is the fault at in this situation thanks in advance?

  • @chrispond5399
    @chrispond5399 Рік тому

    Thank you a great video

  • @thewomble
    @thewomble 10 місяців тому

    Pity the link to Amazon for the multi-meter says unavailable. A very good video explaining relays.