Sundown Xv3 Vs Deaf Bonce 3012R | Is Sundown Worth the Extra $100? | Head to Head
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Both are very impressive...as much as the sundown wins,the deaf bonce is also no joke at all....I love the way it handled different frequencies without any pressure
Through the video, The Deafbonce just sounds cleaner and stronger
That’s right sound quality and bass
That Sundown is an absolute monster. And in my mind if you're getting a sub that expensive for a matching system, another $100 is no big deal.
Yes sir that’s what I did went wit the Sundown x12 v3
SUNDOWN FTW💥🔊
Correct! I have 2 X series V2s on a 3500 RMS amplifier and my entire car is shaking apart.
lmfao.. its funny how people havn't a clue what they're talking about..
these subs are basicly the same but re branded.. with very very VERY minimal changes (almost nothing)
the changes are completely aesthetic
@@theonewhowas7709 you mean the Sundown Xv2 and the Xv3s right? Yeah they are almost the same sub. The defbonce sub is however totally different. Different material quality and everything.
You're the man Parker! Savard HiQ is my current favorite sub, love to see you put one through the paces...
I LOVE LOVE LOVE the true 5min power test! ABSOLUTELY AWSOME! CHannel is improving. Im subscribed now. 2 thumbs up Parker!
I appreciate that!!
Bro u always smiling it's good to no u luv wat u do keep up the good work n keep bringing them videos
Beautiful comparison,keep up the good work you came a long ways!
Brother !! Your awesome man the content gets better and better appreciate the time you put in to it 😁 !!! Just got my first taramps amp thanks to your videos
Your videos are always so entertaining. Love your content man!
Great vid Parker! I just got on your fb page. I’m all about daily. I really liked the sound of that Db. Always wanted to try their subs. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
I agree with Derek. I always remembered Parker your first name but not the last part. It's makes it easier finding your channel 👍👍 great comparison and thanks for all your content
Thanks man!! Yeah should be for the best
I like how you do the db test. I wish other channels would do the same. The higher db is most likely due to what i mentioned in my previous statement having to do with the vc configuration 1 being xmax limited due to that while the other isent. U kind of answered your own question in the vid with out relizing it. Once again you can see the difference that makes on the winISD graphs also.
Been a while since I've watched a video parker. Loving the reviews though bro, they keep getting better and better with time. Good stuff!
Thanks man I appreciate you!!
Been loving your content for a while. I personally love deaf bonce but Sundown has just such a good rep. I guess deaf bonce does too, but vid was awesome!
Another dope video!!! Think I'm going DB on this one, I always get my sub suggestions from Parker, and my amplifier recommendations from Big D Wiz. They haven't led me wrong yet!!! 👍
Deaf Bonce for me. That German engineering is definitely a force. I have 3 Deaf Bonce 4518r 18s running on 3 Deaf Bonce 6k's. No complaints at all!
Deaf Bonce is Russian though?
Russian
It's Russian.
@@user-wm9iu7co8s It's Russian
Ground Zero is German and they make some absolute Monster Subs
Xmax= coil travel while still in the magnet. Xmech= max total possable mechanical movement. Great video thanks JV 😎
Better or worse I have to say Deaf Bonce makes a hell of a sub for the money. Thanks for another great vid. 👍
Brad bounce china made USA now doesn't make any subwoofers any more not even kicker from Stillwater Oklahoma design usat . No longer USA products. Only china made now .
Yo parker..
I think before you start comp the deafbounce to win ..
Yo Parker you did a nice build for the show .. it reminded me of the 04 Daytona build off I won first place 6 hour build I did a wall dB platinum series subs and amps 2 12" 2 15" hit 168.36. I am doing my first build since 08 for my son graduating next year I'm doing a 07 Yukon got 16 highs and 8 mid subs , going to rebuild my 2 12" dB platinum series for bac and 2 8" pandas for the front...
Great vid as always very helpful but how about the zv6 vs the 4515 you might want to use a larger amp for that test but I bet that would be a vid to watch for everyday entertainment keepup the good work
The Sundown basket is functional. Forced cooling. Best basket in car audio bar none. I really prefer the traditional gasket ring also. I build walls and invert sometimes. Sometimes it's the small things.
What’s gonna hit the nasty lows for slowed n rebassed music? Money not really an option I’m doing 2 15s in a slot port tuned to 28 I have a design but can redesign box if subs need less/more air space. Right now my design is 6.64 on sub side so after bracing and subs should be 6.1 for two 15s.
I like both of them for different reasons. They both have great applications.
Love the vids bro! Thinking of putting 2 X12 V3’s in the camaro with a 8k taramp like you but no idea what I’m doing😂
I would def be happy with either one! Great video man
I like that Sundown. I just like to be different. Everyone around here runs Sundown. I been watching Deaf Bonce and actually was going to buy a couple of 3012's but they were out of stock at the time, same goes for B2 Audio. So I decided on two DC Elite XL 12's. Now I'm getting ready to put a decent system in my daily. One of those would work. I have about 4 mono amplifiers with a range of different wattage that are capable of running .5 ohm. Already been on your Facebook page. Congrats on that. I'd like to see you test some DC subs. If I get a suburban next year I'm going to try and do some lvl6 DC subs. Keep doing what you're doing. Much love brother.
How do you like those elite 12s? Are you still running them, how do they hit lows, are they musical?
I did the elite 12xl s they are louder a little but cant handle as much power as the dbs
Good job Parker. N I like the name change. Old one didn't bother me a bit so what ever floats your boat in that respect.
I've been subscribed, just liked your facebook page, and am commenting to let you know. Thank you for all the information you have provided for me to make my various setups over time happen and run properly
Great vid my man, I'd roll with the Deaf Bonce. I'd love to see you test an American Bass Xmaxxx Monster 12 though!!!
Listening to the motor on the subs is just amazing
Enjoyed the vid man! Keep it up
Damn Parker congratulations 40k
Thank you!!
Fingers crossed man! A dual 2 ohm would work great in my Neon! I've got a soundigital evo2 3k I could get that thing flexing with! 💪🏽
Great work on the videos. Awesome job.
So I'm definitely trying to be apart of the audio scene. I've always been banging some 12s since I started driving, always tried to get my foot in the door but lack of the needed money has always been the downfall. Ive been subbed for awhile and seen what youve been doing on these and I wanted to ask if you had any words of encouragement or some tips or anything to help lol. Thanks ahead of time parker
dude u really inspired me to get good car audio when i’m 16. i’m thinking a sundown 12 with a taramps amp and pioneer door speakers
Don't go with pioneer door speakers. I've owned 4 different pairs of pioneers. I even purchased some carbon fiber cone pioneer like 5 years back and I switched to nvx speakers and what a difference. I'm sure there are other brands that provide better speakers. I've always been a pioneer head unit fan but definitely not their speakers. Just use another product and save the money and time
Look go with some db mids or if you don’t wanna spend the money skar pro audio mids are good if you tune them right paired with the right tweeter
@@matthewnicaud6498 skar mids are definitely good I have two of them on amp them mf loud asf.
Changing your name should get more subscribers fingers crossed for you bro I love the content I wish you would do more speaker comparisons and amp dynos to your arsenal but always love the vids and new subwoofers I know you have to spend alot and that is appreciated
Great video Parker! The name change fits you quite well! That seemed to be a great standoff between the two. I personally would probably lean toward DB for my every day. Only for the fact I'm on full tilt at all times I'm in my truck and with the limited space I believe would be great. The DB is a little more eye catching as well with the colors, the dust cap and that beautiful beauty ring! I prefer 12's cuz it gives you a broad low and high note range! You sir are doing a great job! Bass on brother!
what was his name before?
@@zanechristiansenhis full real name
Love what you do man keep it up
Thank you Brendan
@@ParkerTheBasshead you should play all there by Jeezy and going crazy by Jeezy
Id like to see you try this same battery of tests on an Audiopipe BDC4 please and thank you! I know you messed with them in the past, Id sure like to see you play with a 15 inch version.. with the 3.3 inch coils and bigger suspension they are quite the upgrade over the 12 inch with 3 inch coil! Keep up the great work my man!
I would love a sub like that Parker 🖐🤞 thats awesome you are giving back to the basshead community, hell yea 👍 another banger vid.
Great video sir. Keep em comin!!
Try the RMS test on one of the Pride Audio subwoofers. Those are beasts as well. I’d go with a deaf bonce sub because I’ve never experienced owning one of those!!
I have the x15 v2 and yeah sundown kicks the rest now I liked this it was a real good comparison really let’s you know the right direction to go but I got a quick question if you have got time and can answer it Parker I know your busy man what would be two 12s In a sealed box’s could put on my synergy wfo2.10 dyno shows it made like 4500 watts but it’s 2250 watt amp I’ve looked t a few but there are so many and most are for ported I have a ported 15 and was wanting some of the old school tight hitting bass a couple 12s could give me ! Thanks if you can
PARKER.. Try the B2 Audio Rage XL 12. It’s rated @2500 rms. But it has a extra huge spider and xl dustcap to keep the sub cooler when pushing the hell out of it.. The sub basket and spider is the most beautiful sub you’re going to ever see. The price is same as sundown pretty much. You need to test it!!!!
Honestly love both subs. I'm a statistics and number kind of guy. I would go with the deaf bonce. 1db gain for 100$ more... granted you didnt have to push the sundown as hard as the DB to get the numbers. Sundown always conservatively rates their subs. DB seems to hit the nail on the head with their ratings. For the amount of power the sundown took it almost seems like you would have to give it more than what it is rated get the decibels you pulled from the spl meter. Sundown probably louder I bet the Deaf Bonce is more than likely more musical > spl with this particular sub
The sundown is WAY more musical, and it has better spl. Sundown is just better all around lol.
@bailey2517 not budget wise, but sundown is better all around everywhere else. Lol.
@@ChickenJoe24 I _kinda_ take back what I said. The sundown has less distortion at high volumes, especially while playing lows. But it is not as punchy. The DB sounds better on kick drum type sounds where your feel it is your chest. Really just depends on what type of music you listen to.
Sundown underestimates their ratings by A LOTTTT. I’ve seen people double the rated rms with no issues
@bailey2517 I have a x-12 v3 and I listen to a lot of suicide boys and it really really hits at only half the rms my friend has a skar 15 only at 1500rms but my 12 hits harder at half volume than that did at max at least I feel like it did
both are awesome but im into the down. i just bought a pair of Nvx 12 with box would like to know if i should buy a better box and which amp is a good recommend to buy
Been wanting another system ever since my quad coil 15" RE XXX and my JL 1200.1 amp got stolen about 20 years ago. But guessing I'll never have another system. Those have to be some of the best subs ever in existence. I watched some of my friends take it to competitions and passing it among each other for years then I bought it and was playing it loud daily for probably four or five years before it got stolen and was still playing like new.
Wow great video once again brother that Sundown is a Beast an the DB there wasn't much of a difference between the two the Sundown definitely had your plate moving more and then once I watched more of the video on decibel reading's I seen why I think I want to invest in a SPL meter my kids broke my old one 🙄
So i bought super tweeter and spliced it onto my door speakers but it isnt pushing that much treble as i want it to. How can i push more treble onto my tweeters? HELP ME PLEASE
From Walmart subs to these? I'm proud of what you do👍😎
I wonder how the CT Sounds Exo would compare to these. I love my Strato but would be happy to upgrade to that DB should I be lucky enough to win
You should try testing out soundqubed hdx4 . Just curious if it can handle its rms rating.
Those xv3s are insane!
Run your fs parimiters from each sub through win ISD and you will see the huge difference between the 2 just like in your vid when u show the voice coils.
Which one you like?
@@deezsquuezeorg I bought 18" xv3s
@@cartruck1070 I have a box design for two 15s tuned to 28fb 6.64cuft on sub side assuming 6.1 after sub & bracing displacement. Will the sundown x hit the lows the best for price point?
What are your thoughts on the Ground Zero (GZRW) 12XSPL? Bought it as my first "loud" sub shall we say, but don't seem to find too many reviews on them.
I know im choosing DB
Apocalypse. Bc i own 2 of the exact same sub.
Great video parker like the new name basshead
I almost grab that bass knob threw the phone ....lol that tone test 💪🏻
I'm curious about the Orion HCCA Black Coil. I do have a 15" version.
How well will the HCCA do at RMS power?
Great video as usual. Plus I love the give aways 😊
i have a Misubishi Eclipse and id like more bass than my pair of Jl w3 8s. im considering a pair of sundown x8s or this sundown x12. which should i go for or if something else what should that be?
Both good looking subs. The DB definitely needs a boot on the motor that would make it look a little bit better.
Boots are terrible, we want to get rid of heat from the coil not keep it
I got the a sundown x12v3 . Been playing it for 3 weeks. Is a beast .
I need to learn how to re cone . Parker your vids the best man
Hey bro I love your videos that you do about all of the different subwoofer I just ordered my self a AMERICAN BASS XLF 12 2ohm my question to you is can you tell me how do I connect this subwoofer to a 2Ohm amplifier please and thank you.
The flex on that sundown tho 😱🤯
Have you tried the Toro Fierce 12S sub at length? Mine sounds really good with a CT1500.1 amp. Awesome videos man!!🔊🔊🔊🔊
Impressed with the DB for being cheaper and having a smaller magnet and less xmax and yet handled 2600 rms,and was only a little off on the spl test.
It handles more than 2600rms
@@mikeythanos right my bad 2800 😮.Pretty crazy no doubt.
It’s rated at 2800rms
Videos still banging sundown is always crazy sub. Deafbonce is coming to the top though. Keep them coming
Yo Parker what editing program do you use? i was thinking about making some vids.
Parker, would you bring the DB by sundown so we can pull actual t/s parameters off it?
Those spots on the coil is definitely from clipping. Also xmax doesn't determine overall excursion whatsoever. Xmax is just a formula of linear excursion the coil staying within the gap and it's calculated by the winding width of the coil minus the top plate thickness divided by 2. So a 50mm tall coil windings with a 12.5 mm (1/2") top plate would be 18.75mm of xmax and same exact coil with a thicker 25mm (1") top plate Would be 12.5mm xmax. So the deaf bonce either has a shorter winding width or a thicker top plate or both, xmech is the mechanical limits of the motor basically to peak to peak, and I'd say likely the Sundown can move more peak to peak than the deaf bonce but that extra excursion may or may not noticably hurt sound quality whether that's better that comes down to the users opinion and what there looking for. There's people that say it's stupid but personally even tho sound quality is important the huge motors and insane excursion is what I look for in a sub...call me shallow lol, Bass is more than just function it's also a visual thing you want it to look badass too..., not many bassheads do not include form along with the function when choosing a sub!? They want both!!!!
Well I just learned something
Would you try the 40hz test on the Audiopipe BDC 4? I have had mines almost 2yrs now & would love to know how much they can take. I have 4 & two 3000 watt Taramps.
Savard states that their 12” HiQ subwoofer can handle 1700 watts rms, and significantly more with clean power. This is for a sub $300 subwoofer! I would love for you to test one to see if their claims are legit.
I agree and I have been eying 15 inch Hi q for sometime cause tbe price cant be beat.
@@justinhandy8219 I’ve got the 12” and love it!! Have it on a JP8 and it barely is Luke warm to the touch after half an hour of high volume!
I've got the DB 3512R and so far it has me smiling just fine. I'll try sundown eventually just to see what all the fuss is about.
Also the Apocalypse name looks good on a sticker...lmao
I'm trying to find some loud 6.5 or 8inch subs to go in my Nissan cube but I don't have a lot of space
Great video!! What would be my choice? Deaf Bonce. Sound quality is almost as impressive as the Sundown and aesthetically it’s great eye candy.
Dirty commie subs
Maybe Deaf Bonce determines the Xmax differently like Sundown. It seems to be, at Sundown that 100 mm peak-to-peak Xmech excursion means the excursion limit just before damage or just before bottoming out, and they determined the Xmax just as the half of it. At deaf Bonce is pretty plausible that the Xmax is defined as a one-way excursion at 70 percent of BL, so, if it is true, then Xmech or peak-to-peak excursion is in the most case when Xmax is defined at 70 percent of BL can be counted out as (Xmax + Xmax / 2) x 2. So, for deaf Bonce: (19 + 19 / 2) x 2 = (19 + 9.5) x 2 = 28.5 x 2 = 57 mm - this is the theoretical peak-to-peak excursion limit for Deaf Bonce - still just a little bit more like the Sundown's Xmax... Sound-wise: Deaf Bonce really sounded more musical, so, if I have to define which I will use for what, then Sundown just for competitions or shows, and Deaf Bonce also for competitions or shows + as a daily sub too, so...
What do you mean by unload ?
Did the Deaf Bonce bottom out the coil or just spider over excursion noise?
I love the 🐈 basshead cat 🐈 lol keep the good work Parker
I was shocked by the rockville audio 10inch under the seat sub with built in amp 800 watt max I bought like 4 months ago sounds pretty good in a nissan versa might get the 12 inch powered sub for under the other seat its 1200 watt max or just get another 10in
parker u need to give us a bass track list bro
those tunes sound off theee charts!
I will definitely take that off your hands thanks for the opportunity
Man I want that sub lol 😂🤣 & That cheesin smile when you held up the camera was hilarious by the way bahahahaha 😂🤣
I have two old-school audiobahn alum12Q Both still in working condition I’ve had them as long as I can remember still my daily use as you know they have the rubber attached to the cone it had a slight tear where the rubber meets the cone I did my homework and I purchased the appropriate flexible glue applied said glue let it sit for longer than needed in the sub sound like they did when they first came out the box but I am looking to have them refurbished technically only one of them needs to be refurbished but I would like to send both so they can be examined do u kno of a place I can ship too!!!! 02744 is my area
Been watching the channel for a little over a year now, just recently got back into car audio...
Your videos are really important to me because of how I shop around before buying....I'm currently building a single 15 build. I started by buying a D4S JP23 amp....Now looking for a sub. A 15 inch around 1500 to 3k rms is what I'm looking for.
It's great to see these subs put through the paces. I appreciate your work!!!
Phenomenal subs...try Nemesis Hectic 12, if it does not pass I might get one of the 2 you just tested or maybe a ZV 6 sundown (06/06) well i now have an xv.3 12 and very happy. it hits very low and hard. powered by a salt4, still in the process of building my lithium bank....
I have four Sundown SA12-D2s on an Orion HCCA SPLX 3k watt in my Acura TL and they slam pretty good. I built the box, but it's old and I need to build a new one.
Nice, how are you liking that amp?
Definately think these two companies are the best at what they do over the entire car audio spectrum.
They have some competition. How about DC audio?
@@jonathantenorio8829 DC Audio is great company as many others are as well. But they havent really stepped out side of what they know works. So you dont really see them doing new patent ideas. Thats why Sundown has alot of new patents with subwoofer basket designs,and Deaf Bonce designing baskets that nobody else is doing
@@garypoole5841 yea your right DC hasn't been producing any new stuff but you can't go wrong with the old stuff. Still kicks butt. So many shows were won because of DC audio came out on top.
As for active production sundown, DB is doing it big time.
Other company's have great woofers too like resilient sounds there subs are actually bigger and do just about the same or more numbers then sundown
Please compare old school Cerwin Vega Stroker 15 or Stroker 18 vs some of these newer subs.
Hey Parker can u share your play list on Spotify???? I would love to have it for my 2 12s cause I don’t know no songs lol with good bass really well I do but only like 20,
i never heard of deaf bonce till met this dude who had 2 12 told me to sit in car and relax when he played music and the bass hit OMG i felt like i couldnt breath how hard they where hitting thats when i fell in love with them
I just bought 2 of the sundown x v3 in 10s can't wait to hear them on the salt 4 .......I'd like to see you test the CT Sounds meso 10 out
Awesome vid bro. I would love to have any 1 of those
You need to put a fi hc 2500 rms subwoofer on video? I understand why you don't because they have to build it but it's only 469 for starters and the xmax is 34 mm I own 2 and having a 18 neo 4.11 built going to see what that puppy does?
I'm thinking of going with 2 Sundown X3 10's on 2 Sundown Salt-2 amps in a Customlowz underseat enclosure for a 2015 Silverado crew cab.
Hell yeah ...custom Lowz builds some serious enclosures..yeeeeeeew, 🤙🤙🤙🤙
Hope y'all know that Justin's not doing custom enclosures anymore... Just top shelf prefabs.
If I was looking at killing it at the 25-45hz range, would you say the DB would be the better sub to go with? I want to go with something that is pretty flat across the board and that doesn’t just excel in a small range of frequencies
Love that that DB sub!
Great test loved it thank you for that.
Absolutely love your videos..very informative and entertaining
U are one brutal guy with those 2 subs !
Do you break in the subs before the testing or just letter buck ?
Im new to your videos just loved how you showed this video started to follow 👍 you should compare their x8v3 with db 8inch sub do it for us guys with a single cab mini truck/ 2 seater cars lol