I thought when you put a sub in free air, it only can take half of the advertised rms rating. In this case, 600 watts half of that 1200 watts. Therefore in an enclosure that is specifically made for that subwoofer, it should take it’s advertised rms rating.
Ya and depending on the design of the soft parts, some can take more or less power in free air. So the 50% rms is just a general guideline. The more the sub moves out the gap and frequency there of, the hotter the coil gets. Its a shitty way of testing subs as its not on an even playing field.
That would be cool if you could review a pops subwoofer. They’ve been around since the 80s. Look up pops speakers Chicago. They were all handmade in Chicago when old man pops was still alive. His son runs it now.
Careful tugging on voice coil wires ppl. Got a couple slices in my hand cause they weren’t all the way loose but unwound so I grabbed and pulled and they’re so thin it can break skin like razor wire
I'm sure if you got another one and ran it on the 40 Hertz torture test it would probably do fine I think you messed it up by jamming 7,500 watts through it for the DB test
It started smoking after the last db test. I'm sure running 6-7k through a 1200 rms sub didn't have any effect on the sub before you did that torture test 🤦🏼
@@amordeweso lmmfao calm down princess. Like you just said "that are better made". There's a difference between well built subs and budget subs. Lmmfao let's talk about who the 🤡 is lmmfao. That sub is a cheap sub dummy
Love to see the Savard H.O. 15. Ds18 ZX 15. PowerBass XXL 15. Resilient Sounds Gold V2 15. Subs on the channel. Have seen little to no coverage on the first three at all. These subs have some folks interest. Thanks for another great video dude. Cant wait for the next.
@@ParkerTheBassheaddid you have any input on a good power cell for under $200 I’m looking to get one instead of a capacitor this time around and would appreciate some advice thanks again Awsome videos as always
When are you going to review the Stinger series subwoofers? Really affordable and well built.. Just grabbed the 12 stinger with its prefab box waiting on it to get here 💯
I agree with that. When you bottom out the former, depending on how it damaged the end of the former, it can cause an open coil, or other issues to the wire at the end of the former.
I was thinking the same thing and next subwoofer he really needs to try a Resilient Sounds subwoofer. Parker has never once tested a Resilient Sounds subwoofer and for the money it's the best subwoofer around. I have 2 18" Resilient Sounds Platinum subwoofers and there very loud. They have a 3" aluminum flatwound 8 layer voice coil. I'm Ryan Bass For Life.
Look u am a fan of hyanka and their potential. The 15in I believe is 800rms but for 130 bucks it sounds great and gets down low. I am in contact with the company and have been giving them advise and changes to their subwoofers. Their new subwoofer the bsc 12 I did a video on and a few rms test and it went through 5 minutes. I have also been working with certain vega. Try their new VMAXX 15 I just did a video on that and it was great. (Don’t bottom out so badly)
Nice subwoofer for the price but too bad it blew on 800rms watts. Parker get another one and don't test it with over 7000rms watts and don't bottom it first and just test 800rms watts on a 40hz test tone for 4 minutes and see if it does the same thing. I'm very curious and I think other people would love to see that. Than if it makes it 800rms try 1200rms watts.
I got a pair of the H Yanka BSF 12's in a 3.5 CuFt ported box tuned to 35 HTZ. I'm pushing them with a D4S JP8 and they sound very good. Ive put them through hell and back and they still keep banging 😂
Do a Planet Audio review. For one hundred, they sell a 15 incher. I recently put a PA 10" on 1500 watts and it slaps like a SOB. I had the sub in my shop for a year or so on low watts before putting the power to it though so it was broken it real nice.
I'd like to see a review of the new Audiocontrol subs. My coworker has a pair of AC 10's that hit but I want to know if theyre worth the high price tag.
As usual, great content, always interesting thank you for keeping us watching and entertained your videos are full of useful knowledge helping us know what to stay away from
I've heard people say it's the SKAR killer I have two 12' SKARS, TWO SKAR tritium bullets and my 4 6'8s are kicker comp and I haven't had a problem out of any of it
The sub isn't too bad, if you held it at RMS it would probably be fine. And a free air test isnt really realistic as most are never used like that. But if I were to buy a budget 15" it would be Skar or American Bass.
Hey Parker. So apparently Pioneer has a new subwoofer out now boasting 1800w RMS. I would love to see you put that thing to the test! I highly doubt it will measure up to those claims. But would like to see how it performs. God bless
Would love to see a review of the RI Audio “15 inch sub they are a huge step up from Skar the RI is a 1ohm 3inch voice coil and a 200oz magnet for only $40-50 dollars more and said to be the best budget 15! Thanks 🙏
For the money, that’s a decent sub if it sounds good. I don’t think subs are rated for free air so if it takes the rms power in a proper enclosure, then it is well engineered. Any sub that takes way more power than rated without affecting its performance makes me wonder if there was much engineering at all. On the other hand, for UA-cam purposes, its fun seeing some smoke
Well, I think some brands like boss and this style sub that you tested (cheaper) they have their place for sq low power and when grouped you can have a nice sounding sq build, but if you want to move a lot of air, you know as well as I do these will not last even in groups or multiple subs setup
I love the videos bro. But it seems to me you beat the sub up good before it even had a chance at the 40hz rms test. I mean honestly who’s gonna by a $130 sub looking to do 6 to 7,000 watts burst through it. The coil was already done before the test 🤷🏾♂️. You can’t buy a Honda accord looking for hellcat power from the dealer bro. But nevertheless I love the channel and content💪🏾💪🏾. KEEP BASSIN ON 🔊🔊
Those WLLDSE subs are awesome they take way more than RMS power. I have the 10" version and it still has a 3" voice coil. The H Yanka sub is no good in my opinion. better off with the WLLDSE sub.
I think HiYanka is a hit or miss but from my experience I bought 2 12s and they do just fine and boxing was actually super well, but ive seen youtubers get them in super messed up boxing and what not.
I would love to see a earthquake DBXI subwoofer in these tests. I have one and it has hands down the farthest excursion on ANY subwoofer. Thanx for the content my dude
These test are not stupid and i run a test tone when tuning my system and need to know if it can handle the rms rating or not. Love my avatar 12 btw parker thanks for that review.
Ok ive been doing car audio for over 20 years and i am in the firm belief that any sub would blow if you bottom out the voice coil to many times and from the sound of it you bottomed out that sub to much , they are ment to take heat cycles not taking hits to the coil , but thats just my opinion..
Parker why is your voltage in the 13s? It should be charging at 14.4 since it's a Toyota. And it's definitely not because that sub is taking that power 😂
I have a skar amp rp1500.1 it has blew 3 lower grade subs with it turned down and the speakers was used I want a budget friendly sub thinking about a skar 12 but I would love to see what you would recommend or anyone else here the amp seems like it wants a big sub
I’m surprised by both of those China subs I mean for a budget system and not insane power they def are a good deal, for a little more I’d go American bass titan in 12, I have one in my daily off a sundown 1k only at 2ohms and it gets down! Keep up the great videos makes for an awesome Sunday morning my dude
Ya cause fi is gonna give this number nutz anything to completely half as and add more stupid to the industry as parker guesses his way through what he stays accepted as some truth or bs
What do you expect.... You sent 7k watts thru a 1200w speaker. Then you sent 800w during free air when it should have only took 600w I don't think this deserves a negative rating. The sub handled more than ever interested, and did so BRAND NEW
First let me say I love what you do Parker for the car audio community! But, if a sub is rated 1200w rms/2400w peak(which you really can't go by peak numbers), I would think it would blow if your throwing 8000w burps at it lol. So you can't really be mad if a sub that's rated 1200w blows after it gets slammed with 8000w. Just sayin.
It would be appreciated if you could test a resilient sounds gold 12. I just bought one and I can’t install it yet. I’m waiting on a box and would really love to know how well it does on your test thank you Parker.
There are so many brands out there these days. Most youtube guys just go after the same stuff. I love that you bring all brands to your channel..
I thought when you put a sub in free air, it only can take half of the advertised rms rating. In this case, 600 watts half of that 1200 watts. Therefore in an enclosure that is specifically made for that subwoofer, it should take it’s advertised rms rating.
Open air testing doesn't offer back pressure, the pressure needed to hold the woofer back when pushing. Your statement is 100% correct.
Ya and depending on the design of the soft parts, some can take more or less power in free air. So the 50% rms is just a general guideline. The more the sub moves out the gap and frequency there of, the hotter the coil gets. Its a shitty way of testing subs as its not on an even playing field.
That would be cool if you could review a pops subwoofer. They’ve been around since the 80s. Look up pops speakers Chicago. They were all handmade in Chicago when old man pops was still alive. His son runs it now.
I agree nobody has a pops review especially the higher end subs they bang for sure.
Definitely a quality sub
My buddy had 4, 6×9 pops in his Chevy Caprice and boy you would have thought he had 2 12s but they were just 6×9 straight bangin
Thats a chicago brand
@@rhurtadorh32 Homemade Flemarket Brand that everyone used here in Chicago in the 90s
Careful tugging on voice coil wires ppl. Got a couple slices in my hand cause they weren’t all the way loose but unwound so I grabbed and pulled and they’re so thin it can break skin like razor wire
I'm sure if you got another one and ran it on the 40 Hertz torture test it would probably do fine I think you messed it up by jamming 7,500 watts through it for the DB test
It started smoking after the last db test. I'm sure running 6-7k through a 1200 rms sub didn't have any effect on the sub before you did that torture test 🤦🏼
Yet every other sub he does it to that’s made well seems to survive 🤡
And if you’re blind which obviously you are was only like 7-800rms it’s straight junk 🤡🤡
@@amordeweso lmmfao calm down princess. Like you just said "that are better made". There's a difference between well built subs and budget subs. Lmmfao let's talk about who the 🤡 is lmmfao. That sub is a cheap sub dummy
@@amordeweso dummy watch the video. When he did the db test he ran over 7k to it. You can not be this dumb lmmfao
@@amordeweso you probably run skar still thinking you something lmmfao 🤡🗑️ ass
I've had 2 of them for about a year. About to get 2 more. Run them all on a smart 3k at 1 ohm. I think 750 rms will be plenty.
Love to see the Savard H.O. 15.
Ds18 ZX 15.
PowerBass XXL 15.
Resilient Sounds Gold V2 15. Subs on the channel. Have seen little to no coverage on the first three at all. These subs have some folks interest. Thanks for another great video dude. Cant wait for the next.
I want another budget sub shootout for 2024.
Or even better, bass package shootouts (sub + amp combos)
I love it when you showcase the "cheaper" subs for us po' folks! Whether it works or not! 😂 Great show buddy! 👏🏼👏🏼🤘🏻
Early Sunday morning review? Nice! Thanks Parker 👍
Yessir!
@@ParkerTheBassheaddid you have any input on a good power cell for under $200 I’m looking to get one instead of a capacitor this time around and would appreciate some advice thanks again Awsome videos as always
When are you going to review the Stinger series subwoofers? Really affordable and well built..
Just grabbed the 12 stinger with its prefab box waiting on it to get here 💯
I'm with ya, they came out shortly after I got the skar 12 preloaded for my woman. I wish I'd known, but I can't lie the lil sdr 12 does pretty well
I would think it bottoming out that hard had a part of the coil coming apart so quick
Idk I bottom out every single sub that I test
Lies. You dont bottom out the nicer subs you have.
I agree with that. When you bottom out the former, depending on how it damaged the end of the former, it can cause an open coil, or other issues to the wire at the end of the former.
Truth!@@beenburning4993
I was thinking the same thing and next subwoofer he really needs to try a Resilient Sounds subwoofer. Parker has never once tested a Resilient Sounds subwoofer and for the money it's the best subwoofer around. I have 2 18" Resilient Sounds Platinum subwoofers and there very loud. They have a 3" aluminum flatwound 8 layer voice coil. I'm Ryan Bass For Life.
Look u am a fan of hyanka and their potential. The 15in I believe is 800rms but for 130 bucks it sounds great and gets down low. I am in contact with the company and have been giving them advise and changes to their subwoofers. Their new subwoofer the bsc 12 I did a video on and a few rms test and it went through 5 minutes. I have also been working with certain vega. Try their new VMAXX 15 I just did a video on that and it was great. (Don’t bottom out so badly)
DS18 EXL XX12d4 best subs I've ever owned. Had them over a year and they're still amazing. Might be worth it to feature it some day.
How is the sound
The 6-7k watt bottom outs i would say started that damage, would like to see it same test after a less brutal break in period..
make a review on bass habit p380
I would love to see a comparison video between the H Yanka and the WLLSDE sub..
Nice subwoofer for the price but too bad it blew on 800rms watts. Parker get another one and don't test it with over 7000rms watts and don't bottom it first and just test 800rms watts on a 40hz test tone for 4 minutes and see if it does the same thing. I'm very curious and I think other people would love to see that. Than if it makes it 800rms try 1200rms watts.
It didn't blow on 800 watts. It was toast before that. it just so happens it failed at 800 watts.
I got a pair of the H Yanka BSF 12's in a 3.5 CuFt ported box tuned to 35 HTZ. I'm pushing them with a D4S JP8 and they sound very good. Ive put them through hell and back and they still keep banging 😂
The sub sound surprisingly good didn't expect that
Because it was made in the same chinese factory with sundown
Please Review the TARGA Audio CBR 15 inch sub from SA
DAM THEY STILL AROUND😮
You should try a Powerbass xxl 12" from South Africa
cant get them shipped to the US i tried to do that and review them on my channel
ahh that sucks man
@@Zachecker
@@clay3232 Ik 😞 I really wanted the powerbass assassin
the assassin is way better than the xxl that i recommended you'll never go wrong with it
@@Zachecker
Ehh, that last spl test did damage....like to see a brand new one on the torture test or at least a broken in one.....
On normal everyday music I've beat on 2 of their 12s for a while and haven't had any issues. About 750 rms on each.
Love mine 2000 what's on 2 12s 7months strong no issues
I wanted to add a cheap 15 to my home theater set-up. Glad i went with the Skar SDR 15 for 106.
Can you try a svr 15 skar on rated
still better than power acoustik crunch boss Pyle
Haha fair enough 😂
To be fair the 2005 power acoustik motor and fbx series were some beast!
Installed loads of Gothic and mofo subs for people. Never disappointed by power acoustic
Do a Planet Audio review. For one hundred, they sell a 15 incher. I recently put a PA 10" on 1500 watts and it slaps like a SOB. I had the sub in my shop for a year or so on low watts before putting the power to it though so it was broken it real nice.
I'd like to see a review of the new Audiocontrol subs. My coworker has a pair of AC 10's that hit but I want to know if theyre worth the high price tag.
Can’t ever miss a video from good ol Parker
Kinda curious to see how these hold up next to the Power Acoustik MOFO 15’s.
As usual, great content, always interesting thank you for keeping us watching and entertained your videos are full of useful knowledge helping us know what to stay away from
I've heard people say it's the SKAR killer I have two 12' SKARS, TWO SKAR tritium bullets and my 4 6'8s are kicker comp and I haven't had a problem out of any of it
It probably would have done rated power if you didn't put 7000 watts to it before
i think its crazy being that u usually get a dirtier signal at 2ohm seems like it would handle less power lol
The sub isn't too bad, if you held it at RMS it would probably be fine. And a free air test isnt really realistic as most are never used like that. But if I were to buy a budget 15" it would be Skar or American Bass.
"Chinese brand..." So are most of the subs/amps on the market today. Lol
Hey Parker. So apparently Pioneer has a new subwoofer out now boasting 1800w RMS. I would love to see you put that thing to the test! I highly doubt it will measure up to those claims. But would like to see how it performs. God bless
Oh good, I almost bought a pair of these just to see. But now I don't have to...🤣🤣🤣
Buyer beware 😂
Maybe you should do the rms test before the dB test. You bottoming out the coils causes damage to the epoxy and windings on the dB test.
Would love to see a review of the RI Audio “15 inch sub they are a huge step up from Skar the RI is a 1ohm 3inch voice coil and a 200oz magnet for only $40-50 dollars more and said to be the best budget 15! Thanks 🙏
Can you test out more Dayton audio subs ? Like the( HE )series or the Ultimax
For the money, that’s a decent sub if it sounds good. I don’t think subs are rated for free air so if it takes the rms power in a proper enclosure, then it is well engineered. Any sub that takes way more power than rated without affecting its performance makes me wonder if there was much engineering at all.
On the other hand, for UA-cam purposes, its fun seeing some smoke
Well, I think some brands like boss and this style sub that you tested (cheaper) they have their place for sq low power and when grouped you can have a nice sounding sq build, but if you want to move a lot of air, you know as well as I do these will not last even in groups or multiple subs setup
I would love to see a review on the DS18 Hooligan X series sub and also the EXL-XX.
I love the videos bro. But it seems to me you beat the sub up good before it even had a chance at the 40hz rms test. I mean honestly who’s gonna by a $130 sub looking to do 6 to 7,000 watts burst through it. The coil was already done before the test 🤷🏾♂️. You can’t buy a Honda accord looking for hellcat power from the dealer bro. But nevertheless I love the channel and content💪🏾💪🏾. KEEP BASSIN ON 🔊🔊
That bad boy almost good as sundown 😂🤣
Hahahaha
Its know zv6 but A for effort😂
U could get 10 of these for 1 sundown
What's your opinion on the audiopipe pp3 subwoofers
Hmm I haven’t tried them out yet. Maybe I’ll pick one up
Yes please do the head to head test with the wlldse. Thanks for the vids.
2 of these in a proper box would slam real good
Those WLLDSE subs are awesome they take way more than RMS power. I have the 10" version and it still has a 3" voice coil. The H Yanka sub is no good in my opinion. better off with the WLLDSE sub.
8:39 you can hear the coil letting go lol
I bought there hiyanka door speakers coaxal 6.5s 2 ways and they sounded loud and bit bassy off my Sony mex-n4300bt stereo in my Cherokee
I think HiYanka is a hit or miss but from my experience I bought 2 12s and they do just fine and boxing was actually super well, but ive seen youtubers get them in super messed up boxing and what not.
I love the videos what do you do with all the sub baskets when you blow them up because I would love to get them and rebuild them
For 130$ it’s a beast car audio has came a long way in the last decade or so
You should test out the RI AUDIO BD15D1 the baskets look similar which was why I say that. That sub definitely impressed me haha
It's out of here. Parker done killed another one. May it rest in pieces. Lol. Great video. BASS ON my guy
I would love to see a earthquake DBXI subwoofer in these tests. I have one and it has hands down the farthest excursion on ANY subwoofer. Thanx for the content my dude
These test are not stupid and i run a test tone when tuning my system and need to know if it can handle the rms rating or not.
Love my avatar 12 btw parker thanks for that review.
You’re pulling that out like spaghetti!
Yep! 🍝
Italiano spaghetti! And rolling pizza dough
I would love to see you try out a colossal sounds ultra series subwoofer man.
Ok ive been doing car audio for over 20 years and i am in the firm belief that any sub would blow if you bottom out the voice coil to many times and from the sound of it you bottomed out that sub to much , they are ment to take heat cycles not taking hits to the coil , but thats just my opinion..
Parker why is your voltage in the 13s? It should be charging at 14.4 since it's a Toyota. And it's definitely not because that sub is taking that power 😂
I might be one I liked those numbers and mine is a garage car stereo setup
Aloha from Hawaii! Great vid!
I have a skar amp rp1500.1 it has blew 3 lower grade subs with it turned down and the speakers was used I want a budget friendly sub thinking about a skar 12 but I would love to see what you would recommend or anyone else here the amp seems like it wants a big sub
Come on help me out I've been watching your videos for years I live in tn Portland always been a bass head since I was a kid 😊
I’m surprised by both of those China subs I mean for a budget system and not insane power they def are a good deal, for a little more I’d go American bass titan in 12, I have one in my daily off a sundown 1k only at 2ohms and it gets down! Keep up the great videos makes for an awesome Sunday morning my dude
You should see if you can get a good recone, like psi or something for it, and see what it can do.
Have you done a review on your bass knob?? Curious about those. Thanks.
This is crazy ! I never blew a sub in my life and proud of it! lol 😂
I think you broke it before the torture test..... test void.
U never did this test with the skar EVL . I'd like to see that.
Hi, could you please Test the New cerwin Vega vmax 12 :D Thanks, keep it up, nice Videos
Hey what is your opinion on kicker cvx 15 blue stitch are they good?
I liked mine! I have a review on the channel
Can I get a link to it?
Would be cool to see you buy a custom Fi sub and test it out
Ya cause fi is gonna give this number nutz anything to completely half as and add more stupid to the industry as parker guesses his way through what he stays accepted as some truth or bs
Hey parker when the audiopipe txxbdc5 cones out grab that one big jeff should have it soon
How about reviewing a "Funky Pups" sub. I've heard so much about them but has never heard or witnessed one in action 🔊🔊
There trash
I’d like to see a Rockford fosgate t0 review
when are u going to get a custom box? i feel like the reviews would be better if the subs had a better enclosure
HEY PARKER do a review on the resilient sounds gold v2 bro. Greetings from MEXICO
What do you expect.... You sent 7k watts thru a 1200w speaker. Then you sent 800w during free air when it should have only took 600w
I don't think this deserves a negative rating.
The sub handled more than ever interested, and did so BRAND NEW
Love the video's unfortunately you tube didn't let me know about your video's any more
If you over powering it the way you were wouldn't you think it wouldn't hold up probably was damage from all that over powering
I like seeing that jp23/4 in there 👍
Get your heands on some GAS Audio S1 og S2 subs. That would be sick.
Very popular in sweeden and norway :)
First let me say I love what you do Parker for the car audio community! But, if a sub is rated 1200w rms/2400w peak(which you really can't go by peak numbers), I would think it would blow if your throwing 8000w burps at it lol. So you can't really be mad if a sub that's rated 1200w blows after it gets slammed with 8000w. Just sayin.
Please do a review on an Fi Audio subwoofer :)
Love the videos you should compare this too others like what you think it compares too another sub
parker what's your input on American bass Godfathers
Do a review on a MMATTD AUDIO MONSTER
It would be appreciated if you could test a resilient sounds gold 12. I just bought one and I can’t install it yet. I’m waiting on a box and would really love to know how well it does on your test thank you Parker.
I use to have a pair of resilient 12 golds they were great
Is it safe to run a 8 inch and 12 inch subwoofer together on 1 channel? Both 2 ohms equal to 1300 rms and the amp max 1280 rms @ 1 ohms RED1800.5
Will Amazon take that back?
It would work with mine. It's only 125 amps.
I know that bottoms up rebass tore that sub up 😂😭. My 3 evls slam on that exact song.
good video, yeah no more then 500rms on that HiYanka 15 : ]
What's the name of the songs u played when u were testing if it could play into the 20s
Let's go!