What I love about this video is how you take full accountability for your mistakes and are completely honest about what happened! You even reveal how even some of the top subs can face certain death under the wrong conditions. Much respect for this!
i one time didnt keep my secondary agm battery charged after gutting my system out and i killed the battery. went to finaly charge it one day and didnt hold a charge at all. 400 dollar mistake
Recone and you'll love it. Just an honest oops. 3500 watts clean power and you'll never have a problem. They're not Super Saiyan subs they're just high motor Force drivers but they still need to be used correctly. Great video and accountability. You didn't even blame sundown and it very much could have been quality control as well. A lot of people are going to chime in to your videos and your respect will grow because of how candid you are.
That sounds about right from what I've read on the car audio pages a good 3-inch coil sub will take 3-4k rms clean once you start pushing them above that it will work, but it's like how long will it still keep pounding with that much power
@@madscientist6869 possibly double RMS and clipping (regardless of what the clip indicator on the amplifier showed). Slight clip at double RMS or playing an octave below tuning. So many factors and variables about a subwoofer blowing. 90% of the time it's user error. Manufacture defects absolutely happen. But I build for a living and I've never blown a z-sub and I personally run zv5 drivers. Personally put 20,000 clamped to 4 18s. Never a blown sub.
i love how easy going and honest you are, especially with the mistake being made and admitting to it and not blaming anyone else. i got into your vids because i was trying to upgrade my 10 year old system. ive been running 2 alpine type Rs in a ported box on a hifonics 1700.1 for since and it still pounds lol. after watching a ton of youtube i just ordered a sundown 15 xv3 and jp23v2. cant wait. thanks for the vids
This is why I run 4" coil drivers once I go past 3k RMS per sub. No matter what you do a 3" coil can only handle so much heat where the 4" coil has a lot more surface area.
@@________GHOST________ Excursion really doesn't mean much in a ported enclosure. Besides a properly designed driver with a 4" coil can have just as much Xmax/Xmech as a 3" coil driver.
@@________GHOST________ excursion isn't everything. Motor force, piston & suspension durability, and power handling, in the proper enclosure, is what nets good results. Subs hardly move at tuning frequency, thier ability to compress air with great force becomes the main factor when trying to get dumb loud. Large excursion drivers compromise peak motor strength for linearity. It's a direct compromise.
@@cfrazier8400 guess your wrong. You are talking about a neo motor that has a ton more cooling than a normal ferrite vented pole. Hint, never assume someone doesn't know what they are talking about.
Likely the fact that the coil heated up too rapidly and expanded being that flat wire coils have to go through a heating/ cooling process during break in. If it's not done or not done properly the flat wires (being so close to each other) won't let the coils glue offgass properly and will trap gasses between the layers causing the wire layers to bulge outward or inwards. Round wire coils don't do this as often as they have more gap between the wires allowing for gasses to escape a bit easier.. Some companies perform the off gassing heating/ cooling process in steps at the factory to the coils themselves before assembly of the whole sub, I'm not sure if Sundown does this to their subs to prevent coil failure but I know a few companies that do. Not a Sundown fan myself but still a bummer to see subs go bad
Might also have to do with the enclosure was not made for this sub. He always uses same box and puts different subs in it. Not really really showing a subs potential in a box not built to spec and tuned to the fs of the sub
We're not going to lie to each other, he always took the same shitty box to do his tests while doing his showoff and the only thing he showed us today is the OVER X-MAXX that his sound box will force his subwoofer to do...very brilliant
This is interesting, my zv6 is still working just fine but stinks pretty bad. I have pics of the coil and she definitely got hot. Had no idea about this flat coil break in shit.
Parker, I had talked to the Audio apex guys at one of the shows and they told me that they could arrange an appointment for me to bring my subs in to their shop in Nc where they would recone it while I hung around out in town. They said that would cost (approx. $100 a piece) I know you don't live to far off from there so it could be an option. It would make an awesome video to if they let you film some. Something to think about.
This is why I swear by running in subs as you would an engine, give it time to get hot and cold a heap of times before going full send to allow the glue properly set on the VC plus loosening the soft parts
He broke it in for like a week. He did it right. That coil was just a defective coil. It happens to the best of them. Every one in a thousand is gonna be defective for whatever reason. Sundown needs to take care of the man and send him a new sub. He spent $1000 on that thing and it lasted a week.
You live in North Carolina close to Sundown themselves. I would go get it re-coned rather than wait and buy another. I think a lot of other people feel the same way. Love the videos and keep bassing on!!!
Bummer. Excited to see you test the big boy subs. Don't get me wrong, I like the budget subs also. I'm running DC Elite XL'S in my jeep and for now a JLW6V3 in my daily. But I'm thinking of getting something that slams a little harder for the daily (I have a JP23 amp just sitting around) I was kinda looking at the Sundown Xv3. Only cause Sundowns are on sale. Heck I might get some bigger subs for the jeep and put the Elite's in the daily. If I go that route I'll have to get some more lithium and a 20k or so also for the jeep. I have enough electrical in the daily for my 6k I'm already using in the jeep. Decisions, decisions lol. Also considering Deaf Bonce, but I really like DC. Tell you what though if I was Jacob I would send you a new Zv6. Love what you are doing, keep it up.
Just a little side note to anyone Who doesn't know but but taking your Box for example that is tuned to 32 it can only safely play down to 24 hertz So when playing decaf Songs need to be careful on high power Because under that frequency the sub is not controlled anymore by the Box and The subwoofer suspension alone is controlling it and it and can cause over Excursion ( bottoming out or jumping the gap)
I'd enjoy a recone video... I reconed my X12's after watching a couple you tube videos and it was a surprisingly easy job with just some printer paper and proper glues.
8 Layer Coil Typically Expand And Contract More During Heat Cycles Since There Are More Layers Ontop Of Each Other. If It Expands Too Fast / Heats Up Too Fast It Has A Slight Chance Of Unwinding. I Think That May Have Been A Defect Becasue You Would Have Smelt It First. I've Been Basing On Some 8 Layer Coil Subs For Over A Year And They Start To Stink Every Time I'm Getting The Coil Temps Too High.
That black glue some manufacturers use is really good for holding together at high power , no sub single sub is going to handle an 8k amp all day long , 8000 watts is a lot of heat !!!
Got mine on a crescendo 4K, boxed tuned to 32.25 htz. I tested it at 40 hz 0db and getting no clipping playing it loud. Smelled the glue a little when I was breaking it in. But now it doesent smell at all and the spider has loosened up. Sounds great. Sundown only rated the sub at 2500 watts. I was told a 4K was plenty for it
I have a zv6 15" on a half ohm load. It's powered by a Synergy 2.1 d. Supposedly before box rise is getting between 3 to 3.5 k. I also done a SPL recon for this to get a higher FS it seems like it's louder than the original cone. I'm curious about your enclosure what is the internal cubic foot and did you do a slot port? I listen to a lot of metal with some EDM
95 lbs is not easy to carry around but not easy on the daily driver either if you own two or more. Thank goodness for Neo magnets. Bummer about the sub. But made for an interesting vid! 👍🏻
yes get this some attention im looking into psi subs but don't see a whole lot of in depth reviews. any video of them does bang hard, but I just wanna see this style of review lol
Those are comp subs who runs 4” coils and 10k daily? I would love to but who has the money to do it shit would cost $10k easy unless you do a bunch of cheap Brazilian crap!! A pair of those need a Korean 12k-20k to get the best out of them! If all you got is a normal 1500 watt amp forget it you want even tickle them!
i just sold my 2 sa-10's i've been pushing 2k-rms on for 8yrs, they never had any issues. Clearly, tripling the rated wattage is playing with fire... i still want a zv6 tho
It’s easy to do trust me you can recone it I did my first one on a zv5 and it went right in perfect I used paper for the shims and it’s still going that’s been almost 2 years ago
Should make a short video of all your 12s in a line from smallest to biggest motor. Id like to see a side by side comparison of the Jensen js12 and the sundown zv6
Here I am in the middle of the night thinking about subwoofers 🔊 😂 Was planning on doing 8-12 vxf15’s but I wanna play windy lows. And what sub has the most Xmax to get low? Sundown! Now these subs are quite a bit more expensive, like 2.5 times more for the Xv3 , or almost 4x more for the zv6. At this point, I might just have to wait until I figure out which way to go.
my DB 3015 is eating my MD8k. I’m kinda surprised I haven’t blown it yet. im clipping it too when I music demo for my friends. I cant even imagine 2 of those beast in my Subi. Happy Thanksgiving Parker!
Definitely an eye opener. I will be running 2 sundown nsv5 on a taramps 8k bass and was just thinking about doubling up on the amp until now. 4K watts each of clean power should be plenty
4k is definitely all you need but this wasn't because of the size of the amp, it was either enclosure wrong size, amp clipping, or defective sub-I've had a scv7500 per sub at .5 ohm and below using ZV5s, ZV6s, and NSV4s and never had this happen.
instantly you can hear how much more louder this zv6 sub is in comparison to all the other that have gone before it cuz damn it's vibration G the roof and garage easily twice as much as any sub prior... sick as fook man. Buzzin. I'm only a couple minster in btw.. man i love this issh: )
The x and zv use the exact same surround, so one can not be taller than the other, also the x and zv are both assembled here in the US, also making your box bigger doesn't mean louder
You should check out Resilient Sounds... I upgraded to RS team 18s over zv5 18s and I'm loving them. 5k rms rated... Easily they take 10k from everything I've seen about em.
It happened to two x series I got from them early this year, it is not your fault. I reconed them. It happened with the first in about 10 mins of playing the second after a few hours of playtime. The coil seperated and was not burnt in the least. on both of them.......
Respect bud rebuild it with a 8+layer spider pack get a 8k+ coil and spl cone with mega roll u won't be disappointed we did that with a skar dnr it's clear over 150db alone 😉(in chevy Silverado)
That High Pitch Bass Line In That Song Is Exsactly What Heats My Coils Up Badly. When I'm At 32-33Hz Port That Song Slams The Low Bass In That Song And You Hear The Port. When It Goes Into That High Pitch Bass Part The Subs Move Alot And You Hear The Subs Not The Port. It Moves Alot But Doesn't Really Get That Loud. I Have To EQ Those High Pitch Bass In That Song / Turn Bass Knob Down During Those Parts.
Go with DD 99series or Z and you will love it.. cone area will do the work Had 95 esp @DD m5 0,5ohm and took it like champ then bought DD 99series that thing is a beast
Hi im new to this but wanting to get subwoofers but I have a question please can you listen to subwoofers for hours or do you need to let them cool down I'm looking at low power subwoofers and not showing off just my personal use probably a 12 inch with about 300 to 500 watts any information is truly appreciated thank you for your time and have a great day fred
So happy I didn't buy one those subs. The zv5 has the same problem with it falling apart. I will go with the xv3 subs, they seem to be more durable and since you say they sound the same, I really wanted someone to voice their opinion on the subs.
It's not the sub in general or that it was too much power for too long-either he was clipping, the enclosure was wrong, or it was a defected sub. I'm running a scv7500 @.5 ohm per ZV6 right now, and I've ran a 7500 per sub @.3 with my ZV5s and NSV4s for years without ever having this issue. You can't let one bad sub sway your judgment, even good brands have defects here and there.
I would call Sundown. I won the Zv6-12 in the raffle at the show this year and I have a CAB-45 on it. I beat on it every day. Jacob Fuller will figure something out. They have the best warranty on there equipment. I would just call and let them know what happened or drop by there.
Parker please do a video with you buying the parts from lord of bass and rebuilding a sub and show us how to measure and decide what parts and sizes to buy. Doesn't have to be that sundown it could be any basket
@@JasonKerlin ah okay, only reason i was gonna get a v2 is because that would make the RMS 1000 watts under my amp rms, i have a 4000rms memphas audio amp
Parker, please give me your oppinion on this. I have a taramps MD 1800.1 . Shall I get an Xv2D2 sub and wire it down to 1 Ohm or can I get away with geting an Xv3D1 and wire it down to 0.5 Ohm without frying the amp? I'm willing to take the chance, I wont blame you if it fries, but if you say it will fail 100% then I wouldn't try. I just want to enjoy one beast like this and I think that if I wire it to 1 Ohm the MD 1800.1 won't provide enough power for it after impedance rise.
what a shame, that speaker can take power, but what learnt from my nsv4, 1 week wasn't near enough time to break those spiders in, try two months... would of been under incredible forces
Damn that sucks!!! Recone it and sell it. Get a nice 4 inch coil sub like the B2 Audio Rampage if your wanting to abuse the hell out of a sub. 3 inch are nice for SPL and music but if you really want to abuse a sub gotta go 4 inch.
I got two of the discontinued team series. The 5000 rms a piece, I got the last two from a company. None of the ZV s can beat them. I'm even knocking off trucks with 4 - 15 ,most speakers they making now are no more than 2000rms ,.so think of my two that's 10k rms and they 12s ,and these Brazilian amps ain't ready to push them rite .I had to get a real Korean amp to get them rite
I heard that they have been having this happening a lot with this specific subwoofer and version of it. I do realize you pushed a lot of power through it but I've been hearing this has been happening. But for me that is unfortunate because I was looking at one of these but I may go with the x v3 I got a Jp23 to hookto it thinking of going with 2 12s n 2 jp23 amps to push them
I want the 45series behind these Sundowns!! No disrespect to Sundown, ZV6 is beautiful!! Sorry it broke, my favorite version of Coca-Cola is 18-21Hz on 1 15" Machete Sport V2 on Crescendo Symphony S1 & XS D7500 @rest.
D4 sound gonna give u another sub... no worry.. 🙈 wich i dont think .. seeing clip light @ 7:40.. 7:43.. and the box to small for that thick motor.... not enough cooling..
No doubt you stood on it as many have said which is obviously the right thing to do. I don't know of anyone else doing with subs what you are. Speakers have, Life of Speed with Mike Angel, but subs have only the budget end videos. What about talking to others? I seen PSI, but then Resilient Sounds, DD, DC Audio, Deaf Bounce ( I know you have done vs. Sundown), and idk maybe Pride. All big boys so people can get a real feel for the big money before it is spent. Get each company to throw out one big boy to go against the others head to head one box and one amp. Specs are not to far off for any of them I would say. Maybe a box 4.5 cubes tuned at 30 hertz with a simple 5K amp so they are safe from an very understandable "Parker excitement" lol. Just an idea and all respect with last comment as I am more than guilty of blowing subs myself due to had to know what it can really do. Love of the bass is expensive right all. Hope you read and take into consideration as I think it could be your biggest video ever, a one hour special or something I for one would love to watch with good set of headphones a few times I think. Great work and oh well in this game what's a $900 mistake really?!🤔. It is $900😉
The spider differant colors on z vs x series. Some can't tell tge difference sundiwn should color tge dustcap letters or put a z or x on dustcap to tell difference on series.
I think sundown should step up and warranty it out. Would've never considered them till your videos... now not so sure. Would've liked to see what this could handle.
It's the port area and volume of the encloser that's way to small for the box the box your using is more of an SPL box for that sub and will be loudest in the 40hz range vs 30hz range
The reason you blew the sub was cuz the box you put it in it's not the right size the port area was way too small and it heated the coil up way too much
Coca-Cola has claimed more than one of my subs. Sorry to hear you had some bad luck on this one. Raffle off the sub as a rebuild. I’d be in on that.
I just might man! Thank. Your X show up yet?
@@ParkerTheBasshead no sir, but I am on the edge of my seat!
I was just going to suggest that 🔥🔥🔥
Mannnn I was just about to say the same thing!!!! Coca-cola is just a earth shake in Shittttt breakin song
I ripped the song off UA-cam put in in audacity and removed the distortion. Now I can play it full tilt no smell and way less heat to the coil
What I love about this video is how you take full accountability for your mistakes and are completely honest about what happened! You even reveal how even some of the top subs can face certain death under the wrong conditions. Much respect for this!
i one time didnt keep my secondary agm battery charged after gutting my system out and i killed the battery. went to finaly charge it one day and didnt hold a charge at all. 400 dollar mistake
Just recone it fr
@Trav Hamler exactly
He cooked the sundown but didn’t blame them? 🤔 hmmm starting to feel like a couple people are against dc audio.
Recone and you'll love it. Just an honest oops. 3500 watts clean power and you'll never have a problem. They're not Super Saiyan subs they're just high motor Force drivers but they still need to be used correctly. Great video and accountability. You didn't even blame sundown and it very much could have been quality control as well. A lot of people are going to chime in to your videos and your respect will grow because of how candid you are.
What was the oops just hooking it up ..
Thanks man means a lot!!
That sounds about right from what I've read on the car audio pages a good 3-inch coil sub will take 3-4k rms clean once you start pushing them above that it will work, but it's like how long will it still keep pounding with that much power
@@madscientist6869 possibly double RMS and clipping (regardless of what the clip indicator on the amplifier showed). Slight clip at double RMS or playing an octave below tuning. So many factors and variables about a subwoofer blowing. 90% of the time it's user error. Manufacture defects absolutely happen. But I build for a living and I've never blown a z-sub and I personally run zv5 drivers. Personally put 20,000 clamped to 4 18s. Never a blown sub.
@@DibeezyTheGifted thouse amps start flashing the clip light at .8 tdh soo there was no clipping just way tomuch power before brake in
As Big D would say, "You Big Dummie!." 🤣🤣🤣
that fred sanford
i love how easy going and honest you are, especially with the mistake being made and admitting to it and not blaming anyone else. i got into your vids because i was trying to upgrade my 10 year old system. ive been running 2 alpine type Rs in a ported box on a hifonics 1700.1 for since and it still pounds lol. after watching a ton of youtube i just ordered a sundown 15 xv3 and jp23v2. cant wait. thanks for the vids
Thanks for your honesty and not making excuses!
I just love how far your videos have come bro great work
This is why I run 4" coil drivers once I go past 3k RMS per sub.
No matter what you do a 3" coil can only handle so much heat where the 4" coil has a lot more surface area.
The problem with your idea here if you switch to 4 inch coil YOU WILL LOSE EXCURSION BIG TIME SO GOOD LUCK WITH THAT ONE LOLOL
@@________GHOST________ Excursion really doesn't mean much in a ported enclosure. Besides a properly designed driver with a 4" coil can have just as much Xmax/Xmech as a 3" coil driver.
@@________GHOST________ excursion isn't everything. Motor force, piston & suspension durability, and power handling, in the proper enclosure, is what nets good results. Subs hardly move at tuning frequency, thier ability to compress air with great force becomes the main factor when trying to get dumb loud. Large excursion drivers compromise peak motor strength for linearity. It's a direct compromise.
Guess you've never heard of a ddz.
@@cfrazier8400 guess your wrong.
You are talking about a neo motor that has a ton more cooling than a normal ferrite vented pole.
Hint, never assume someone doesn't know what they are talking about.
Likely the fact that the coil heated up too rapidly and expanded being that flat wire coils have to go through a heating/ cooling process during break in. If it's not done or not done properly the flat wires (being so close to each other) won't let the coils glue offgass properly and will trap gasses between the layers causing the wire layers to bulge outward or inwards. Round wire coils don't do this as often as they have more gap between the wires allowing for gasses to escape a bit easier..
Some companies perform the off gassing heating/ cooling process in steps at the factory to the coils themselves before assembly of the whole sub, I'm not sure if Sundown does this to their subs to prevent coil failure but I know a few companies that do.
Not a Sundown fan myself but still a bummer to see subs go bad
Might also have to do with the enclosure was not made for this sub. He always uses same box and puts different subs in it. Not really really showing a subs potential in a box not built to spec and tuned to the fs of the sub
We're not going to lie to each other, he always took the same shitty box to do his tests while doing his showoff and the only thing he showed us today is the OVER X-MAXX that his sound box will force his subwoofer to do...very brilliant
This is interesting, my zv6 is still working just fine but stinks pretty bad. I have pics of the coil and she definitely got hot. Had no idea about this flat coil break in shit.
My zv5s never did that. I had an 8k on each fresh out of the box. Sounds like defective sub, there was no clipping present
How long can you play on max volume? Does it overheat with 8k each
Parker, I had talked to the Audio apex guys at one of the shows and they told me that they could arrange an appointment for me to bring my subs in to their shop in Nc where they would recone it while I hung around out in town. They said that would cost (approx. $100 a piece) I know you don't live to far off from there so it could be an option. It would make an awesome video to if they let you film some. Something to think about.
I was gonna comment to hit up Audio Apex they will get him squared away
That's cheap
@@33bigggman That was labor the recones are normal price on top of that.
@@60wayland2010 $900 sub in the trash can vs. $500 for a rework. If you are going to play with a big dog, sometimes you have to feed it....
I remember when I made that mistake with my Zv5 I was so sad. Then i ended up buying a nightshade v.4 lol easier to carry around as well :)
Hey bro!
We all appreciate your dedication to this channel and most of all your honesty.
Take it ez
Thank man!!
@@ParkerTheBasshead
Just stating facts bro.
Have a great day.
This is why I swear by running in subs as you would an engine, give it time to get hot and cold a heap of times before going full send to allow the glue properly set on the VC plus loosening the soft parts
He broke it in for like a week. He did it right. That coil was just a defective coil. It happens to the best of them. Every one in a thousand is gonna be defective for whatever reason. Sundown needs to take care of the man and send him a new sub. He spent $1000 on that thing and it lasted a week.
😬😬😬 She gone 🔥💨💨
You live in North Carolina close to Sundown themselves. I would go get it re-coned rather than wait and buy another. I think a lot of other people feel the same way. Love the videos and keep bassing on!!!
Bummer. Excited to see you test the big boy subs. Don't get me wrong, I like the budget subs also. I'm running DC Elite XL'S in my jeep and for now a JLW6V3 in my daily. But I'm thinking of getting something that slams a little harder for the daily (I have a JP23 amp just sitting around) I was kinda looking at the Sundown Xv3. Only cause Sundowns are on sale. Heck I might get some bigger subs for the jeep and put the Elite's in the daily. If I go that route I'll have to get some more lithium and a 20k or so also for the jeep. I have enough electrical in the daily for my 6k I'm already using in the jeep. Decisions, decisions lol. Also considering Deaf Bonce, but I really like DC. Tell you what though if I was Jacob I would send you a new Zv6. Love what you are doing, keep it up.
Just a little side note to anyone Who doesn't know but but taking your Box for example that is tuned to 32 it can only safely play down to 24 hertz So when playing decaf Songs need to be careful on high power Because under that frequency the sub is not controlled anymore by the Box and The subwoofer suspension alone is controlling it and it and can cause over Excursion ( bottoming out or jumping the gap)
Dammm what a bummer Parker. Mistakes happen. Keep it pushing 💪💪
I'd enjoy a recone video... I reconed my X12's after watching a couple you tube videos and it was a surprisingly easy job with just some printer paper and proper glues.
8 Layer Coil Typically Expand And Contract More During Heat Cycles Since There Are More Layers Ontop Of Each Other. If It Expands Too Fast / Heats Up Too Fast It Has A Slight Chance Of Unwinding. I Think That May Have Been A Defect Becasue You Would Have Smelt It First. I've Been Basing On Some 8 Layer Coil Subs For Over A Year And They Start To Stink Every Time I'm Getting The Coil Temps Too High.
That black glue some manufacturers use is really good for holding together at high power , no sub single sub is going to handle an 8k amp all day long , 8000 watts is a lot of heat !!!
You will never see 8k especially on music maybe for a second but the rise will be all over the place
Inductive reactance (impedance) is entirely different than resistance. Sometimes manufacturers will post DC resistance for convenience.
I just appreciate your honesty in what happened! I love my Sundowns!
Got mine on a crescendo 4K, boxed tuned to 32.25 htz. I tested it at 40 hz 0db and getting no clipping playing it loud. Smelled the glue a little when I was breaking it in. But now it doesent smell at all and the spider has loosened up. Sounds great. Sundown only rated the sub at 2500 watts. I was told a 4K was plenty for it
I have a zv6 15" on a half ohm load. It's powered by a Synergy 2.1 d. Supposedly before box rise is getting between 3 to 3.5 k. I also done a SPL recon for this to get a higher FS it seems like it's louder than the original cone. I'm curious about your enclosure what is the internal cubic foot and did you do a slot port? I listen to a lot of metal with some EDM
That's a bummer man. But hopefully they'll have a v6 recone soon. Hopefully the raffle goes well. 👍
Parker you're a genius, bro you are the sub woofer destroyer if it cant hang you'll be the one that prove the truth of a sub Great Job
We're here to help your channel to be the biggest car audio page!
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95 lbs is not easy to carry around but not easy on the daily driver either if you own two or more.
Thank goodness for Neo magnets.
Bummer about the sub. But made for an interesting vid! 👍🏻
It would be cool if you could do a review on a 12" or a 15" psi platform 5.
Those are bad ass heavy heavy heavy woofers
yes get this some attention im looking into psi subs but don't see a whole lot of in depth reviews. any video of them does bang hard, but I just wanna see this style of review lol
love my platform 5💪
Man i bought a platform 1 15 and a star power 1500 amp and holy shit it blows the doors off my 08 avenger
Those are comp subs who runs 4” coils and 10k daily? I would love to but who has the money to do it shit would cost $10k easy unless you do a bunch of cheap Brazilian crap!! A pair of those need a Korean 12k-20k to get the best out of them! If all you got is a normal 1500 watt amp forget it you want even tickle them!
i just sold my 2 sa-10's i've been pushing 2k-rms on for 8yrs, they never had any issues. Clearly, tripling the rated wattage is playing with fire...
i still want a zv6 tho
If I can run 2.5x power on some Alpine bassline $50 12s for 8 months. I think the sundown should have lasted a lot longer.
It’s easy to do trust me you can recone it I did my first one on a zv5 and it went right in perfect I used paper for the shims and it’s still going that’s been almost 2 years ago
I'm a little speechless. Keep your head up bud you did good love ya man.
Good review I like the honesty
Should make a short video of all your 12s in a line from smallest to biggest motor. Id like to see a side by side comparison of the Jensen js12 and the sundown zv6
Purpose is my favorite color too Parker!!! Keep up the quality content 👌🏼
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Here I am in the middle of the night thinking about subwoofers 🔊 😂
Was planning on doing 8-12 vxf15’s but I wanna play windy lows. And what sub has the most Xmax to get low? Sundown! Now these subs are quite a bit more expensive, like 2.5 times more for the Xv3 , or almost 4x more for the zv6.
At this point, I might just have to wait until I figure out which way to go.
My new zv6 came in the mail and it’s reading 1.3 on both coils . Did you have your sub in parallel when they read.5 and.7?
my DB 3015 is eating my MD8k. I’m kinda surprised I haven’t blown it yet. im clipping it too when I music demo for my friends.
I cant even imagine 2 of those beast in my Subi. Happy Thanksgiving Parker!
How much difference in box size and porting between X and Z subs? I have x and thinking about upgrading for more power handling?
Dream subwoofer😍👌 BASS ON!!!
Definitely an eye opener. I will be running 2 sundown nsv5 on a taramps 8k bass and was just thinking about doubling up on the amp until now. 4K watts each of clean power should be plenty
4k is definitely all you need but this wasn't because of the size of the amp, it was either enclosure wrong size, amp clipping, or defective sub-I've had a scv7500 per sub at .5 ohm and below using ZV5s, ZV6s, and NSV4s and never had this happen.
@@lancewilliams4261 good to know! This is the biggest system I’ve ever done. Most I’ve had is 1 j 13w7 and just had a 12” skar evl on 1500 rms
instantly you can hear how much more louder this zv6 sub is in comparison to all the other that have gone before it cuz damn it's vibration G the roof and garage easily twice as much as any sub prior... sick as fook man. Buzzin. I'm only a couple minster in btw.. man i love this issh: )
The x and zv use the exact same surround, so one can not be taller than the other, also the x and zv are both assembled here in the US, also making your box bigger doesn't mean louder
You should check out Resilient Sounds... I upgraded to RS team 18s over zv5 18s and I'm loving them. 5k rms rated... Easily they take 10k from everything I've seen about em.
It happened to two x series I got from them early this year, it is not your fault. I reconed them. It happened with the first in about 10 mins of playing the second after a few hours of playtime. The coil seperated and was not burnt in the least. on both of them.......
You should do a review on the deaf bonce 4515... I have a brand new one sitting in a box that I would let you review and send it back to me..
Respect bud rebuild it with a 8+layer spider pack get a 8k+ coil and spl cone with mega roll u won't be disappointed we did that with a skar dnr it's clear over 150db alone 😉(in chevy Silverado)
Always wondered how the voice coil glue holds up to the extreme expansion/contraction of CCA wire.
When the glue warms up it becomes softer so in a way it works out
Purple my fav color too..really like that shirt guess ima have to buy one ...you've came along way since the gothic 10 😆
I’ve got one on the way 😁 going to have a pair of SAZ-1500D 15th anniversary amps strapped on it
When you Have that much available amp power always wire your subwoofer up it'll increase the BL and it can handle the amp better
That High Pitch Bass Line In That Song Is Exsactly What Heats My Coils Up Badly. When I'm At 32-33Hz Port That Song Slams The Low Bass In That Song And You Hear The Port. When It Goes Into That High Pitch Bass Part The Subs Move Alot And You Hear The Subs Not The Port. It Moves Alot But Doesn't Really Get That Loud. I Have To EQ Those High Pitch Bass In That Song / Turn Bass Knob Down During Those Parts.
Do u prefer carbon fiber dust cap and cone or Kevlar dust cap and cone??
Go with DD 99series or Z and you will love it..
cone area will do the work
Had 95 esp @DD m5 0,5ohm and took it like champ then bought DD 99series that thing is a beast
That part your car is moving while you put into the box.. wow. Wish i have that one
That's a bummer! Maybe between D4S or Sundown they'll warranty it for a little good publicity. Still a bummer though
Respect for taking responsibility of your mistake, subbed and liked 👍
I appreciate you!!
Hi im new to this but wanting to get subwoofers but I have a question please
can you listen to subwoofers for hours or do you need to let them cool down I'm looking at low power subwoofers and not showing off just my personal use probably a 12 inch with about 300 to 500 watts any information is truly appreciated thank you for your time and have a great day fred
🟢I'ld to LOVE to see you making a review on Pride ST12 subwoofer. Can you do it please?
Do you think if you would have had it inverted it would have held up better. I keep my q class inverted and they stay cool
Re Cone
You can another bad ass interesting video I'd really love to see how to re cone a sundown zv6 they're so recent it'll be a good review as well
I’ve had the same thing happen with my x8 v3 2 times and clean power.
Test B2 Audio RAGE XL 12
So happy I didn't buy one those subs. The zv5 has the same problem with it falling apart. I will go with the xv3 subs, they seem to be more durable and since you say they sound the same, I really wanted someone to voice their opinion on the subs.
It's not the sub in general or that it was too much power for too long-either he was clipping, the enclosure was wrong, or it was a defected sub. I'm running a scv7500 @.5 ohm per ZV6 right now, and I've ran a 7500 per sub @.3 with my ZV5s and NSV4s for years without ever having this issue. You can't let one bad sub sway your judgment, even good brands have defects here and there.
Parker, we didn't expect you to feed that thing sammiches its entire life... Good job man, you took a hit and it will still pay off in the end...
I would call Sundown. I won the Zv6-12 in the raffle at the show this year and I have a CAB-45 on it. I beat on it every day. Jacob Fuller will figure something out. They have the best warranty on there equipment. I would just call and let them know what happened or drop by there.
I’m just here to read the comments from the pros as to what went wrong but keep up the good videos.
Parker please do a video with you buying the parts from lord of bass and rebuilding a sub and show us how to measure and decide what parts and sizes to buy. Doesn't have to be that sundown it could be any basket
All of your subs are inasanely awesome😍🇵🇭🇵🇭
Always wanted to ask why no 10’s or 15’s? Love your content but looking for other sizes
Thats sick, I’ve always been into Skar, but thinking about getting an XV2! Hopefully they sound good lol
The v2 will likely have the same issue. I had two seperate and shed the coil
@@JasonKerlin ah okay, only reason i was gonna get a v2 is because that would make the RMS 1000 watts under my amp rms, i have a 4000rms memphas audio amp
Parker, please give me your oppinion on this. I have a taramps MD 1800.1 . Shall I get an Xv2D2 sub and wire it down to 1 Ohm or can I get away with geting an Xv3D1 and wire it down to 0.5 Ohm without frying the amp? I'm willing to take the chance, I wont blame you if it fries, but if you say it will fail 100% then I wouldn't try. I just want to enjoy one beast like this and I think that if I wire it to 1 Ohm the MD 1800.1 won't provide enough power for it after impedance rise.
Can you tell us the motor weight and layers when you can. Like pull the boot off? Thanx.
You should do a video comparing the zv6 vs brickhouse. That would be an awesome video
Hopefully you still have warranty for thiis, can't wait for the comparison video
The sub is fixed! Gotta go pick it up this week
what a shame, that speaker can take power, but what learnt from my nsv4, 1 week wasn't near enough time to break those spiders in, try two months... would of been under incredible forces
Damn that sucks!!! Recone it and sell it. Get a nice 4 inch coil sub like the B2 Audio Rampage if your wanting to abuse the hell out of a sub. 3 inch are nice for SPL and music but if you really want to abuse a sub gotta go 4 inch.
I'm sticking to the Xv3. Cheaper and you said it sounds the same. So yeah. If I buy some it will be sundown Xv3
I agree with all the others. Do a recone, it's a great opportunity for another video and it will be just as good as original.
I got two of the discontinued team series. The 5000 rms a piece, I got the last two from a company. None of the ZV s can beat them. I'm even knocking off trucks with 4 - 15 ,most speakers they making now are no more than 2000rms ,.so think of my two that's 10k rms and they 12s ,and these Brazilian amps ain't ready to push them rite .I had to get a real Korean amp to get them rite
I heard that they have been having this happening a lot with this specific subwoofer and version of it. I do realize you pushed a lot of power through it but I've been hearing this has been happening. But for me that is unfortunate because I was looking at one of these but I may go with the x v3 I got a Jp23 to hookto it thinking of going with 2 12s n 2 jp23 amps to push them
I want the 45series behind these Sundowns!! No disrespect to Sundown, ZV6 is beautiful!! Sorry it broke, my favorite version of Coca-Cola is 18-21Hz on 1 15" Machete Sport V2 on Crescendo Symphony S1 & XS D7500 @rest.
Do they offer dual .35 coils in a recone for those?
Take a shot everytime he says "massive" 😂
I really wish you would start reviewing 15 inch subs
No shave November hitting you good keep the beard going
D4 sound gonna give u another sub... no worry.. 🙈 wich i dont think .. seeing clip light @ 7:40.. 7:43.. and the box to small for that thick motor.... not enough cooling..
What kind of amp does the Sundown SV6 need and will I have to upgrade alternators for this thing lol
What amplifier where you pushing with that subwoofer..
$900??!!!!! not a good look for sundown!!
No doubt you stood on it as many have said which is obviously the right thing to do. I don't know of anyone else doing with subs what you are. Speakers have, Life of Speed with Mike Angel, but subs have only the budget end videos. What about talking to others? I seen PSI, but then Resilient Sounds, DD, DC Audio, Deaf Bounce ( I know you have done vs. Sundown), and idk maybe Pride. All big boys so people can get a real feel for the big money before it is spent. Get each company to throw out one big boy to go against the others head to head one box and one amp. Specs are not to far off for any of them I would say. Maybe a box 4.5 cubes tuned at 30 hertz with a simple 5K amp so they are safe from an very understandable "Parker excitement" lol. Just an idea and all respect with last comment as I am more than guilty of blowing subs myself due to had to know what it can really do. Love of the bass is expensive right all. Hope you read and take into consideration as I think it could be your biggest video ever, a one hour special or something I for one would love to watch with good set of headphones a few times I think. Great work and oh well in this game what's a $900 mistake really?!🤔. It is $900😉
What has better lows out of xv3 or zv6?
Welp , We appreciate the contents anyway it's Parker
So whats the best class sundown 12 to use when u only have 3k audiopipe to push it in a extended cab
U series
With a 3inch coil i would put only 3-4K on that thing
The spider differant colors on z vs x series. Some can't tell tge difference sundiwn should color tge dustcap letters or put a z or x on dustcap to tell difference on series.
It's sad that we don't have Swedish Fish here in Sweden.. I love those :(
I think sundown should step up and warranty it out. Would've never considered them till your videos... now not so sure. Would've liked to see what this could handle.
Much better subs out there for that price
@@michaelmosher7902 what are some better subs for that price?
@@jgman6856 Deaf Bounce is my favorite
@@jgman6856 no sub in that price range that’s winning championships. Or killing it in the lanes don’t let them tell you a lie
@@cin5cin1nat3i so what 18 should i buy?
It's the port area and volume of the encloser that's way to small for the box the box your using is more of an SPL box for that sub and will be loudest in the 40hz range vs 30hz range
The reason you blew the sub was cuz the box you put it in it's not the right size the port area was way too small and it heated the coil up way too much