This is me. Months & months. Tried 12 step. Quit. Therapy & EMDR helped so much. So much loss. Kicked out of relationship & home. Friends are all conditional. Thank you for this.
This channel deserves more subscribers just as much as more people need this life saving/changing information. Thank you Tim & staff who make this channel possible, God Bless. I would love to see the Bible teachings come back at the end!
It is fast becoming popular. Subscription has almost doubled in the last 2 months since I discovered this channel. I am excited about starting the LIFT program soon. Let us continue to like, share & subscribe. Let the healing continue 😊
Father God, we thank you for Tim. He helped me put together the pieces of my life. I survived a long term narcissist relationship but struggling to recover because I wasn't aware of childhood trauma. I am thankful for Tim's videos. 😊
I love the Bible lessons. Its always so helpful to see that even though these ancient people also struggled there was/is always hope. It keeps me going.
Thank you Tim, that was very helpful. I appreciate your insight. It's like you know me without knowing me. I must be a text book case. losing hope is a slippery slope.
my father took his own life when I was 14- I have struggled with self-harm and suicidal ideation/hospitilizations... thank you so much for talking about this
Thank you for giving a voice to those of us who cannot get serious help because we don't actually jump but are "only" in enough pain to dream about jumping. I don't believe there is help for those who fall into the category of suicidal ideation. The pain is excruciating but responsibility is, apparently, even stronger that the pain. No help is the consequence of being responsible.
Thank you very much, i just lost my best friend to suïcide and we both had the same core wound so she felt like my soulmate and it send me straight to my trauma. It did open my eyes, shook heaven and earth for me but in the proces i found God. She wrote me a farewell letter. It happend about 6 weeks ago and yesterday i really really felt the pain for the first time about how much i miss her and how much i really wanted to save her and how dangerous this is for me. The thought i wasn't allowed to think. That maybe i could also not make it. The abuse she and i had to endure when we were children was very covert and narcisistic and leads to loads of shame while at the same time everybody is telling you how lucky you are and it is very easy to get very very confused by this type of abuse. The pain of hearing about her hanging herself, she must have been planning this for at least 3 months...changing life insurance etc writing at least 12 letters...the guilt of not having been able to be there for her in order to really help her...the loss of the most important connection i had with another human beïng on this planet...it was so painfull and at the same time so much filled with love for her that it send me straight to the place where i was hiding my deepest pain. It smashed through many walls in my ego-mind and all of a sudden i could see how i was mistreated and how it had affected me. First i got really angry and then i got scared and then i got paranoid and then...somethimg beautiful happened: it was as if a spirit told me to take some magic mushroom. It sounds controversial, but it felt like the only way out of a very bad place and desperate situations ask for desperate measures and i felt very empowered like i was a shaman and as if the whisper to take the plant medicine was the whisper from God. My addiction is smoking tobacco with marihuana and psylocibine i see as a gift from God for the desperate soul who wants to feel Him. And so, in a state of fear and paranoia i took the plant medicine and i started meditating using ritual music and candles and incense, doing pranayame and beïng very conscious and present. And then there was a total eclipse of my heart because all of a sudden the veil lifted from my eyes and i could see that everything is consciousness, everything started with consciousness and matter followed from consciousness and how beautifully everything is connected and i could feel how i am connected to everything and all of a sudden i realised how much love there is in pain and in anger and in everything. And i felt so gratefull for all of it, even for those who i thought were my enemies and that there was nothing to forgive because it was all trauma, unconsciousness and i felt so sorry for them and i wanted to help them raise their vibration and find God. And i felt how the love of God is in everything, the whole universe i vibrating with it and i felt like he wanted me to know just how much he loves me and that i am very much wanted. And in the weeks that followed i felt that God stayed with me, giving me guidance. I meditate and ask for guidance. I usually call him spirit though because to me to talk about him is too much of the devine masculinity only and i have to honor the feminine aspect as well. But in general i don't care how to call the devine creator of everything. The ever dancing spirit of life. Though i feel like i am just at the ending of a cycle and i feel so vulnerable and i feel so much pain and at the brink of beginning a new chapter in my life, i feel si much devine love and i feel protected and guided by God. And there is a new kind of trust, i have a devine father and a devine mother and both are standing behind me with their hand on my shoulders, telling me that i can go just really really slow this time. Not like before: quitting in a harsh wat...this time will be different because i can allow myself to smoke for now...with presence and love for the self, thinking that just maybe there will be a better way for me to live and relax in the future. Working towards it slowly, with tenderness and patience. Caring for the spiritual part, i neglected that part and i need soulfood even more than just real food. That is what my body believes. And so the spirit wants to go fast, but the body still holds the old believes and so i have to go slow, i allow myself to linger and reflect and question everything with a lot of understanding. Just knowing what the trauma did to me alone took away a lot of shame. That allowed me to find God and that gives me so much more strength and understanding. Sometimes the deepest pain leads to the greatest love and that is a devine miracle to me. Because i didn't expect to find God there, in the midst of so much pain and grief. Don't be afraid to feel, to receive and to let go, because everything must flow.
If ever there was an episode that needed God in it, this is the one... but I didn't here you talk about Him? Maybe I missed it? I love how you include readings from the Bible in other videos I have watched
I would really like to thank you from the bottom of my heart for this video and covering this very touching topic. I have had a very close friend of mine whom who had committed suicide and have had a lot's of questions and wondering concerns of what everyone else has asked and that's WHY . And this video has somewhat answered those questions. So I ask you to keep up the good work you do and please keep sharing these videos that you are making.
I'm unlikely to commit suicide. But the thought of being dead is not a threat. It' is a promise. This will end. A gift. And yes I've been in therapy and have long been doing all I know to do. Still, when the time comes, it will be a relief.
The most shocking part is that people think that suicide is the problem but in reality it seems the solution to “end all problems “. Therefore just because the ideation is gone doesn’t mean someone is better. Aldo suicide is not hitting rock bottom. When I was at the bottom I didn’t have the physical nor mental strength to plan for it. It was only months later when my physical and mental health “stabilized” that I tried.
My mother passed away last year due to all the reasons in the video. Thanks Tim and team, this just make me realise again there was not much more i could do, the damage was already done. You can get caught in the trap of ' could i have done anything more'. I took my mother in my home in the last weeks and spoke openly about her thoughts. Unfortunately she saw no other way out of the pain by the time she was 60. Lots of gratitude for sharing this video to help other,
This video is a great resource for non-suicidal people to help suicidal people. Not so helpful for people who are currently, personally suicidal and looking for resources on how to help themselves.
At the moment I'm just feeling so stuck in life it just makes the most logical sense. The funny part is I've been doing a lot of work on myself over the past 2 years or so and I've never felt better about myself mentally but can't ignore outside of that everything is going to crap. So my brain gets all super logical and makes it very clear with this high level of uncertainty about the future, checking out today seems justifiable. In my case anyway. Gonna just keep moving on though cause who knows
Thankyou Tim, for all your great advice regarding trauma, been listening this afternoon, and appreciate your advice, which is prolific, been very helpful!🎉🎉🎉🎉❤❤❤life is very challenging when you have trauma and chemical addiction and all that goes with!!🎉🎉🎉🎉
Yup. Fantastic video. Very informative and well presented. I'm curious to know what recovery looks like if someone has multiple deeper causes active at the same time.
Please Mr. Fletscher, make a video about disability and quiting work because of c ptsd. So many issues and problems come up because of not able to work.
So true. I can definitely recognize myself in the cortex suicide group. I say : ok i lost hope. But just don't grap hopelessness. I remind myself that I don't know. And be present. Looke at beauty as i fall apart. Then... oh i feel much better😅
Often I've noticed that anyone will say they are willing to listen to people in crisis. Of course it feels heroic to save someone from the brink....but rarely will anyone be willing listen when it's not yet an emergency. It's not fun or heroic to hear out a boorish childhood trauma story that may need more than one sitting and to build ties with a pertain that is estranged from their family. It's not as rewarding to be neighborly or a remote friend. Of course therapists are out there but they can't replace someone making you feel included
You always say: ' talk to somebody' but what if in your life all your family is dead and you have no access to intimacy because every one you meet is a stranger. Its true I live in the Philippines and have no one of my own race around. I 'escaped' Western Europe because of the high level of narcissism there. In 40 years no single sane friend or warmth. Dont have cash for online therapy and do not have access to the USA where there is more consciousness and help. I am totally isolated and no chance of finding anyone to attach too, or even talk too in a day. Its unbearable brain famine and then WITH complex trauma to digest. Completely isolated in a strange low-concious culture, with people looking at you like an ATM, being scammeded multiple times by 'friends' because I was looking for closeness. Being the ATM -stranger in a low-minded very dissociated strange culture with no escape. Like an isolation death sentence NOW WHAT???
Very interesting. The 12 year mark, especially. WTH? Twelve is pretty young to have issues like this. I mean that. That was news. I missed the whole 12 needs thing. I’ll be ggling. I tried 12 steps. I needed more. Still do. This ‘peekaboo SI sucks. Damn! The shame of shames.
@@Sarahwithanh444mine began around 9… It went away even if the abuse continued, I found ways to cope as I got older. Eating well (for me, that’s carnivorous way of life due to autoimmune issues) and going no contact with narcissists has really changed my life for the better. I wish you healing, truly.
Early teens I started self harming to control the pain. Something else snapped in me. When I was little I was sad and wanted to die, then I choked it all down with anger and hurting myself.
9:22 Yes, a very tough topic. I love what you share, your discernment and wisdom. Im working through my complex trauma as my only child committed suicide. I know i passed mine on to him. My son was almost 22. I firmly believe that his marijuana use also played a huge roll as it has been found that THC interferes with the development of the pre-frontal cortex. I can say firmly he was not depressed and did not give any indication he felt suicidal. I will say he had had a bad day that day and his estranged girlfriend texted him he was a loser and he should kill himself. I own my part and make amends by staying sober and living my program. I went back to school and have received my chemical dependency license. Thank you for all of your great vieeos! And thank you for making this video on a very difficult topic. God bless you.❤️🙏
31:56 Mate, you spoke well. However, to reduce the CPTSD only to childhood trauma is not just lazy, it’s downright stupid. People suffer CPTSD for many other reasons because society is as it is. People who fought in wars, for example- why nobody talks about emotional injury? And where the hell have you been since 2020? Friends and families turned against one another, increase in prices, joblessness, dissolution of every ounce of human decency, dissolution of trust in medical professionals, Police, law, scientists…you fucking name it. For 4 years now. So. In conclusion, give me a fucking break.
He's not reducing it to only childhood trauma but it is the core issue. Once the childhood trauma is addressed, one gains the tools/skills to handle trauma in adulthood that you have mentioned. So, as is everything, it's on a spectrum.
@@lukedegraaf1186 Wow ! I had no idea it was an actual punishable crime to kill yourself. I guess my assumption was because the perpetrator is no longer alive. To punish the family is a very interesting deterrent as well as punishment for the crime.
@@allencollins6031 even here I think. Knew first minute of '20,(and before).Trying to take the good because real sincere good are so few. Discernment on full. Pretty overwhelming.
Phone crisis line and talk about it. Maybe they can tell you what's going on with you. Or tell your doctor. Don't be shy. That is what they are there for. 🙋🏼♀️💖
Its very hard to kill yourself, the last time I took a bowl, cocktail of pills and I was OK after, that time I was extremely sick and suffering severely, well that was kind of a miracle, maybe the bowl was not full enough! Don't do it , it's a very bad deal, but I understand totally!❤❤❤
This is me. Months & months. Tried 12 step. Quit. Therapy & EMDR helped so much. So much loss. Kicked out of relationship & home. Friends are all conditional. Thank you for this.
This channel deserves more subscribers just as much as more people need this life saving/changing information. Thank you Tim & staff who make this channel possible, God Bless. I would love to see the Bible teachings come back at the end!
I second the reincorporation of bible teachings at the end !
It is fast becoming popular. Subscription has almost doubled in the last 2 months since I discovered this channel. I am excited about starting the LIFT program soon. Let us continue to like, share & subscribe. Let the healing continue 😊
Father God, we thank you for Tim. He helped me put together the pieces of my life. I survived a long term narcissist relationship but struggling to recover because I wasn't aware of childhood trauma. I am thankful for Tim's videos. 😊
I love the Bible lessons. Its always so helpful to see that even though these ancient people also struggled there was/is always hope. It keeps me going.
Your staff was right. This video is much needed. I'm sure you saved many lives tonight ❤
Thank you Tim, that was very helpful. I appreciate your insight. It's like you know me without knowing me. I must be a text book case. losing hope is a slippery slope.
That hopelessness thing shook me.
I’m never gonna do it, but I felt that whole explanation
my father took his own life when I was 14- I have struggled with self-harm and suicidal ideation/hospitilizations... thank you so much for talking about this
you are doing a vital public service
Great information, given with such compassion. Tim Fletcher is like father on earth.
Please keep doing these videos- they are the best trauma information ones I have ever encountered. Thank you
Thank you for giving a voice to those of us who cannot get serious help because we don't actually jump but are "only" in enough pain to dream about jumping. I don't believe there is help for those who fall into the category of suicidal ideation. The pain is excruciating but responsibility is, apparently, even stronger that the pain. No help is the consequence of being responsible.
Thank you Pastor Tim. Your team was right. This topic is timely for me. Your talks have helped me immensely.
Thank you very much, i just lost my best friend to suïcide and we both had the same core wound so she felt like my soulmate and it send me straight to my trauma. It did open my eyes, shook heaven and earth for me but in the proces i found God. She wrote me a farewell letter. It happend about 6 weeks ago and yesterday i really really felt the pain for the first time about how much i miss her and how much i really wanted to save her and how dangerous this is for me. The thought i wasn't allowed to think. That maybe i could also not make it. The abuse she and i had to endure when we were children was very covert and narcisistic and leads to loads of shame while at the same time everybody is telling you how lucky you are and it is very easy to get very very confused by this type of abuse. The pain of hearing about her hanging herself, she must have been planning this for at least 3 months...changing life insurance etc writing at least 12 letters...the guilt of not having been able to be there for her in order to really help her...the loss of the most important connection i had with another human beïng on this planet...it was so painfull and at the same time so much filled with love for her that it send me straight to the place where i was hiding my deepest pain. It smashed through many walls in my ego-mind and all of a sudden i could see how i was mistreated and how it had affected me. First i got really angry and then i got scared and then i got paranoid and then...somethimg beautiful happened: it was as if a spirit told me to take some magic mushroom. It sounds controversial, but it felt like the only way out of a very bad place and desperate situations ask for desperate measures and i felt very empowered like i was a shaman and as if the whisper to take the plant medicine was the whisper from God. My addiction is smoking tobacco with marihuana and psylocibine i see as a gift from God for the desperate soul who wants to feel Him. And so, in a state of fear and paranoia i took the plant medicine and i started meditating using ritual music and candles and incense, doing pranayame and beïng very conscious and present. And then there was a total eclipse of my heart because all of a sudden the veil lifted from my eyes and i could see that everything is consciousness, everything started with consciousness and matter followed from consciousness and how beautifully everything is connected and i could feel how i am connected to everything and all of a sudden i realised how much love there is in pain and in anger and in everything. And i felt so gratefull for all of it, even for those who i thought were my enemies and that there was nothing to forgive because it was all trauma, unconsciousness and i felt so sorry for them and i wanted to help them raise their vibration and find God. And i felt how the love of God is in everything, the whole universe i vibrating with it and i felt like he wanted me to know just how much he loves me and that i am very much wanted.
And in the weeks that followed i felt that God stayed with me, giving me guidance. I meditate and ask for guidance. I usually call him spirit though because to me to talk about him is too much of the devine masculinity only and i have to honor the feminine aspect as well. But in general i don't care how to call the devine creator of everything. The ever dancing spirit of life. Though i feel like i am just at the ending of a cycle and i feel so vulnerable and i feel so much pain and at the brink of beginning a new chapter in my life, i feel si much devine love and i feel protected and guided by God. And there is a new kind of trust, i have a devine father and a devine mother and both are standing behind me with their hand on my shoulders, telling me that i can go just really really slow this time. Not like before: quitting in a harsh wat...this time will be different because i can allow myself to smoke for now...with presence and love for the self, thinking that just maybe there will be a better way for me to live and relax in the future. Working towards it slowly, with tenderness and patience. Caring for the spiritual part, i neglected that part and i need soulfood even more than just real food. That is what my body believes. And so the spirit wants to go fast, but the body still holds the old believes and so i have to go slow, i allow myself to linger and reflect and question everything with a lot of understanding. Just knowing what the trauma did to me alone took away a lot of shame. That allowed me to find God and that gives me so much more strength and understanding. Sometimes the deepest pain leads to the greatest love and that is a devine miracle to me. Because i didn't expect to find God there, in the midst of so much pain and grief. Don't be afraid to feel, to receive and to let go, because everything must flow.
If ever there was an episode that needed God in it, this is the one... but I didn't here you talk about Him? Maybe I missed it? I love how you include readings from the Bible in other videos I have watched
I would really like to thank you from the bottom of my heart for this video and covering this very touching topic.
I have had a very close friend of mine whom who had committed suicide and have had a lot's of questions and wondering concerns of what everyone else has asked and that's WHY .
And this video has somewhat answered those questions. So I ask you to keep up the good work you do and please keep sharing these videos that you are making.
I'm unlikely to commit suicide. But the thought of being dead is not a threat. It' is a promise. This will end. A gift. And yes I've been in therapy and have long been doing all I know to do. Still, when the time comes, it will be a relief.
I feel the same. It sure freaks out folks who don’t ’get it’.
From hope to hopelessness in a moment - I've said this to therapists over the yrs & they've not believed me. Thank you
You did an awesome job
The most shocking part is that people think that suicide is the problem but in reality it seems the solution to “end all problems “. Therefore just because the ideation is gone doesn’t mean someone is better.
Aldo suicide is not hitting rock bottom. When I was at the bottom I didn’t have the physical nor mental strength to plan for it. It was only months later when my physical and mental health “stabilized” that I tried.
My mother passed away last year due to all the reasons in the video. Thanks Tim and team, this just make me realise again there was not much more i could do, the damage was already done. You can get caught in the trap of ' could i have done anything more'. I took my mother in my home in the last weeks and spoke openly about her thoughts. Unfortunately she saw no other way out of the pain by the time she was 60. Lots of gratitude for sharing this video to help other,
This video is a great resource for non-suicidal people to help suicidal people. Not so helpful for people who are currently, personally suicidal and looking for resources on how to help themselves.
At the moment I'm just feeling so stuck in life it just makes the most logical sense. The funny part is I've been doing a lot of work on myself over the past 2 years or so and I've never felt better about myself mentally but can't ignore outside of that everything is going to crap. So my brain gets all super logical and makes it very clear with this high level of uncertainty about the future, checking out today seems justifiable. In my case anyway. Gonna just keep moving on though cause who knows
Thankyou Tim, for all your great advice regarding trauma, been listening this afternoon, and appreciate your advice, which is prolific, been very helpful!🎉🎉🎉🎉❤❤❤life is very challenging when you have trauma and chemical addiction and all that goes with!!🎉🎉🎉🎉
Yup. Fantastic video. Very informative and well presented. I'm curious to know what recovery looks like if someone has multiple deeper causes active at the same time.
Please Mr. Fletscher, make a video about disability and quiting work because of c ptsd. So many issues and problems come up because of not able to work.
Thanks so deeply for this Video!!❤ Blessings from Germany
I’ve attempted and my mom completed suicide when I was 14, which is part of my trauma
37 years sober, alanon 42, no family, just aa and church
So true. I can definitely recognize myself in the cortex suicide group.
I say : ok i lost hope.
But just don't grap hopelessness.
I remind myself that I don't know.
And be present.
Looke at beauty as i fall apart.
Then... oh i feel much better😅
Often I've noticed that anyone will say they are willing to listen to people in crisis. Of course it feels heroic to save someone from the brink....but rarely will anyone be willing listen when it's not yet an emergency. It's not fun or heroic to hear out a boorish childhood trauma story that may need more than one sitting and to build ties with a pertain that is estranged from their family. It's not as rewarding to be neighborly or a remote friend. Of course therapists are out there but they can't replace someone making you feel included
Im done at 63 yrs old. Miserable life....😓
Thank you very much for this briliant wirk..so helpfull ❤
Tim Fletcher has hit 500 vids
You always say: ' talk to somebody' but what if in your life all your family is dead and you have no access to intimacy because every one you meet is a stranger. Its true I live in the Philippines and have no one of my own race around. I 'escaped' Western Europe because of the high level of narcissism there. In 40 years no single sane friend or warmth. Dont have cash for online therapy and do not have access to the USA where there is more consciousness and help. I am totally isolated and no chance of finding anyone to attach too, or even talk too in a day. Its unbearable brain famine and then WITH complex trauma to digest. Completely isolated in a strange low-concious culture, with people looking at you like an ATM, being scammeded multiple times by 'friends' because I was looking for closeness. Being the ATM -stranger in a low-minded very dissociated strange culture with no escape. Like an isolation death sentence NOW WHAT???
Very interesting. The 12 year mark, especially. WTH? Twelve is pretty young to have issues like this. I mean that. That was news. I missed the whole 12 needs thing. I’ll be ggling.
I tried 12 steps. I needed more. Still do. This ‘peekaboo SI sucks. Damn! The shame of shames.
My serious suicidal ideation started around age 11 and has been a lifelong struggle..
@@Sarahwithanh444mine began around 9… It went away even if the abuse continued, I found ways to cope as I got older. Eating well (for me, that’s carnivorous way of life due to autoimmune issues) and going no contact with narcissists has really changed my life for the better. I wish you healing, truly.
Mine started around 8 or 9 as well. I just moved and relapsed. Memories and ideation and rationalisation. Won't stop.
Early teens I started self harming to control the pain. Something else snapped in me. When I was little I was sad and wanted to die, then I choked it all down with anger and hurting myself.
Thankyou
Thank you
can the limbic go calm after the cortex approves of and arrange for carrying out the plan?
9:22 Yes, a very tough topic. I love what you share, your discernment and wisdom. Im working through my complex trauma as my only child committed suicide. I know i passed mine on to him. My son was almost 22. I firmly believe that his marijuana use also played a huge roll as it has been found that THC interferes with the development of the pre-frontal cortex. I can say firmly he was not depressed and did not give any indication he felt suicidal. I will say he had had a bad day that day and his estranged girlfriend texted him he was a loser and he should kill himself. I own my part and make amends by staying sober and living my program. I went back to school and have received my chemical dependency license.
Thank you for all of your great vieeos! And thank you for making this video on a very difficult topic. God bless you.❤️🙏
Not your fault,devil looms large on the earth
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I am being beaten and abused, my father beats and abuses me I am being beaten and abused, my father beats and abuses me 💔
I seem to feel bad about being happy, like ill be punished and it will be taken away.
Some people find God loves us 🙏
My husband took his life two months ago 😢
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I pray for you.
31:56 Mate, you spoke well. However, to reduce the CPTSD only to childhood trauma is not just lazy, it’s downright stupid.
People suffer CPTSD for many other reasons because society is as it is. People who fought in wars, for example- why nobody talks about emotional injury? And where the hell have you been since 2020? Friends and families turned against one another, increase in prices, joblessness, dissolution of every ounce of human decency, dissolution of trust in medical professionals, Police, law, scientists…you fucking name it. For 4 years now.
So. In conclusion, give me a fucking break.
He's not reducing it to only childhood trauma but it is the core issue.
Once the childhood trauma is addressed, one gains the tools/skills to handle trauma in adulthood that you have mentioned.
So, as is everything, it's on a spectrum.
Corruption?
COMMIT? My mother took her own life by suicide. I’ve been left with the thought of if she had been committed to killing herself?
The wording comes from when it was a crime. Punishment would be to stop your family inheriting anything.
@@lukedegraaf1186 Wow ! I had no idea it was an actual punishable crime to kill yourself. I guess my assumption was because the perpetrator is no longer alive. To punish the family is a very interesting deterrent as well as punishment for the crime.
Is anyone awake to the world here?
Yes.
@@allencollins6031 even here I think. Knew first minute of '20,(and before).Trying to take the good because real sincere good are so few. Discernment on full. Pretty overwhelming.
@@mores5780 sure is.
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It retriggered the cptsd with a vengeance
I dont understand whats happening in me
Phone crisis line and talk about it. Maybe they can tell you what's going on with you. Or tell your doctor. Don't be shy. That is what they are there for. 🙋🏼♀️💖
Its very hard to kill yourself, the last time I took a bowl, cocktail of pills and I was OK after, that time I was extremely sick and suffering severely, well that was kind of a miracle, maybe the bowl was not full enough! Don't do it , it's a very bad deal, but I understand totally!❤❤❤
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