60 Characteristics of Complex Trauma - Part 23/33 - Afraid To Be A Burden
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People from Complex Trauma were often made to feel they were a burden as children. This can keep them from asking for necessary help in adult life, which can result in thinking they have to be self-sufficient, but that is impossible. So, they set themselves up for failure. What can they do to change?
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Anyone else laughing bitterly when he reads off the long “maybe this happened in your childhood. Or maybe THIS!” ..... and each and every one on the list applies to you 😓😓😓
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Here. 💯💥
It’s like: “ STOP READING THAT LIST!”
Yup. 💯
i dont think its funny no
I was so neglected by my narcissistic parents and became necessarily so self-sufficient from such a young age that it truly amazes me that I even survived! Hugs to all my fellow survivors 🤗
Same.
And it turns out, hyper-independence is a red flag and causes problems in relationships. :(
@@TruthOnly24 that’s true. Thanks for pointing that out. Helps me to be thankful.
Hugs! 💕
I can relate.. my childhood was similar.. mum passed away giving birth.. dad left me with his mother and widowed sister and went away remarried.. my aunt abused me verbally physically emotionally everyday a peaceful day was happiness.. I used to wake up fearing what's it gonna be today... My family was heavily religious.. church every Sunday without fail Bible study etc., But no kindness inside home... I was a maid mostly.. my education was stopped on and off... Before the night of my public exam there was major fight episode at home I cried all night hardly slept and by god's grace passed my exam.. my grandmother passed away at my 19yrsvand i was sent out of home... I became an orphan overnight..😢.. I was homeless slept in chairs in railway station and bus stations found a job stayed in hostel built myself from nothing.. ended up marrying a narcissist..😂 the cycle continued and I broke it.. homeless with a kid... Again I built myself up for my kid's sake and am a lawyer now.. working on securing financial stability for my kid.. educating her on this toxic relationships hope she has a good life.. as lon as am alive am gonna make sure she becomes a decent human being.
@@TruthOnly24hi, i was one. Made it out but battling demons.
When even a ride home from school is too much to ask for as an eight year-old child, clean clothes, necessary medical care ect....well, just the bare minimum as an adult seems good enough. We, the unloved children, grow up to be adults that settle for much less than our birthright and potential. We are the perpetual under-achievers.
You are so right. Spot on.
Very true
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If this happened to you😢. My heart cries with you 😮❤.
Vary very TRUE.But we have to recover and Flourish!!s Is our
responsibility to be free and happy!! Best wishes to all.
My wife and I have just started researching this. At first her therapist thought it was BPD or covert Narc tendencies but they don't really line up. Her family history looks and smells exactly like complex trains and I'm so happy I found this channel. Everyone else has told me to run. I do not and will not run. If we can figure out what's happening together, it will be for no lack of trying. I love her and don't want to abandon her like every single person in her life, including her family. I'm hoping we can learn to work through this together. It's hard when someone believes things that never happened. Has to watch a video of what was said before accepting reality. It's hard never knowing from one day to the next what to expect. She's an amazing person. When things are good, they are so good. Just need to get past the "triggers" that set her back in a mindset she's still with her abusive family or abusive ex.Thanks for the great content!!!
What kind of things would she think did ir didn't happen? Like would it be everyday things (I just cleaned that or was just holding my keys but they are gone) or human interactions like who said what and or the other person's intent? Does paranoid thinking affect her? Does she remember her childhood very well? I gave hundreds of questions and I apologize it's just that I am struggling to help myself so I can be a good mom to my 6 and 4 year old girls. I unfortunately fit into almost every category of this lecture as the child AND the parent. Which breaks my heart. I have been on this journey for awhile and bpd was where I truly felt I belonged until cptsd came along a few months ago.any insight would be helpful. Thank you and thank you for not running.
Traits that predict and cause illness:
1. Automatic concern for other people's (emotional) needs above your own
2. A rigid identification with duty, role, and responsibility
3. Repressed (and/or suppressed) emotions
4. (Self-limiting) beliefs
5. Responsibility for other people's emotions
6. "I must NEVER disappoint ANYONE..."
So,
when there’s a disagreement,
when I need to say YES
or when I need to say NO,
when I need to state my needs,
and ask for them to be met...
When I need to create boundaries...
There's a possibility and a probability,
that someone will inevitably,
most likely,
be disappointed in me...
So I engage in every encounter,
interaction, and relationship...
In a way that ensures,
that the person disappointed in me...
NEVER
ends up being me!
I aim to never repress,
never suppress.
I aim to never lose parts of myself.
Radical honesty only:
100% of the time.
Always,
all ways.
I NO LONGER
HAVE MY VOICE SILENCED.
I ROAR!!!
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7) poverty/no resources/no way to improve one's fiancial class ... because money can buy a person out of their problems, money is the shovel that digs a person out of hell.
Outstanding! Beautiful to see!
@@emmalouie1663 What???? Way outta left field there fella. Wanna try and rephrase that or something?
The fear of "being a burden", "burdening others" or how sick it makes me feel to even consider asking for or accepting help is a thought and feeling that crosses my mind multiple times every single day.
Get called narcissist every day by my ex wife and daughter, they made me this person!!
So go to a counsellor.
@@JGalegriaare you being intentionally obtuse?
Practice! Getting healthy takes a lot of time and practice. It’s a life-long full-time job. One of my mantras is from Dr. Wayne Dyer and he said… ‘I’m better than I used to be!’
. I'm sorry friend, but research tells us that the seeds of narcissism are planted in childhood. When you are ready to learn, I suggest you explore this possibility.
Needs in my childhood home were seen as being selfish and ungrateful. Other people have it worse.
the problem with that thought process for me was always "at what point is it bad enough for you to care?" and the answer turned out to be "never" and that's when I realized they just don't give a shit
To quote 'other people have it worse', is irrelevant and invalidating. It really pisses me off when people say this, of course other people may have it worse, but it doesn't mean that you are not suffering. It's a cop out. It's not a competition, there is no scale of pain/suffering, if it affects us, that's reality.
same lol
It makes sense; even in "lucky" situations when the parents do their best to provide all the basic stuff for their kid (spending their hard earned money to keep them safe, fed, dressed, clean & healthy), when the child voices extra needs & wants, that may be perceived as you say - ungrateful, bratty, selfish, spoiled kid behavior. Providing goods & care happens at one level, cultivating child's autonomy & individuality at another.
All of this applies to me. I had to keep my parents from killing each other. I remember the violent fights when I was three years old and I was afraid I was going to die. I was an only child and it never got better until I went off to college. I still suffer from mental health issues and isolate. I never ask for help because there is always a price to pay and I regret asking. ❤️ I wish the best to all who had to face these fears
Please try EMDR and/or neurofeedback treatments….both helped my scapegoated husband who was emotionally/psychologically/physically abused for years….you deserve to heal and be happy ☺️🌼🌼
Blessings to you, and thank you.💜
I feel this
This is my life as well. But you know what? At 68 now, I HAVE to ask for help! I am going to take it very slow and thoughtfully.
Jesus... I'm sorry that happened to you.
“I shouldn’t help you if you’re lazy or procrastinating.”
That’s why I don’t ask for help. I’m afraid of being judged.
Was just about to comment about this. You’re absolutely spot on. He’s miscommunicating. Massive weak spot in his bedside manner and tact and frankly skill. He at the very least, he should have qualified making those observations of procrastination or manipulation as a way to adjust or guide his relationship to that client or patient. This is indeed a very common element of current broken paternalistic authoritarian severe outdated Canadian culture. Obviously to be stable in life laziness and procrastination isn’t helpful, but often IS ITSELF the result of complex trauma.. the paralyzing fear / incapacity of doing anything on their own..
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Same here
Where has this video been all my life?!!!
My childhood home had so much dysfunction that I couldn’t bring myself to have kids. I didn’t think I had the tools to not mess them up. I’ve felt damaged and shame all my life.😖
Thank u, thank u, thank YOU!❤
I was so scared of becoming the same as my Father ( abusive verbally and physically since I and my brother was 3 ) , walking on eggshells every day, wanting to escape but couldn’t etc I put off having a child with every excuse to my wife. When a beautiful boy was unexpectedly born when I was 38 , I was so loving . But , I had this haunting feeling because of stress. I decided to divorce my wife and let her have full access when he was 2 ( so it was not too late).Her family is so supportive. I wanted to give him a good life away from me. I moved to another country . I stay in touch and visited him for many years and gave him love and care. But I wanted to ‘ spare him ‘ from me on a daily basis. My brother committed suicide at 41. My father ruined my life . He affected my personality, character, social life, career . I’m now 64 and still have panic attacks. I’ve never taken drugs. But sleeping pills numb .
Same
But, believe me you are an amazing soul. Because, you never wanted to pass on this immense pain and agony to your children, I would like to congratulate you for doing and amazing favour to yourself, your future kids and to this world. Wish you all the best with all the love and care for you from bottom of my heart ❤🎉💋..
This is exactly my story. I've never had anyone in my circle of friends who could relate to this feeling. Reading your comment is precious (and also bringing a lot of emotion...) ❤
Me too Julia
The "you never want to be too much for people because youre afraid they'll abandon you". I have CPTSD and chronic fatigue from being so self sufficient. I was horrifically afraid of being a burden and therefore neber asked for help. Now Im sick and its still hard to ask my husband.
💜 same here!
One thing for thought consideration.
You can know what happened to make you the way you are, but asking for help from your spouse is a moment of vulnerability that you trust they will help to look after you. To not ask is saying you think they are not capable. The only thing you need is to acknowledge their help and allow that they will do it their way which may not be perfect or what you completely wanted. Hopefully with some give and take a balance will be reached where the mountain of must do tasks are Re-distributed in a way that works for all.
I have to say, UA-cam videos have been really good at showing all of us one thing if nothing else: none of us are alone. I don't know how many times I've had the myth of "and I thought I was the only one" obliterated right before my own eyes in just the past few months. What a mess! Heartbreaking to see so many suffering from trauma as children. Only silver lining to this that I've found so far is the community that has spawned as a result of people wanting to be free of this and help others to do the same. I've found that just having a vocabulary which helps express all of this has freed me up quite a bit to better comprehend my own traumas and let them go. Truth will set you free, but it'll usually piss you off really good first.
Yes! The truth is initially totally retraumatising as it breaks!
Yeah, its not me after all.
Perfectly said.
This conference has been therapeutic like nothing else has been for me
Holy moly...learning about this now, being middle aged... well, better to be at the party late versus never showing up lol. Still alive, there are always opportunities to grow. Thank you for putting information out here for us!
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Totally agree. I just found this. Very helpful for myself as my kids. Definitely will be watching all videos.
If I may add a more subtle one to the list - a family situation where the children get overnourished, overprotected, over-cared for, but otherwise the environment is pretty cramping, so they become accustomed to sit passively on the receiving side.
They are taught high, noble human & moral values to the detriment of authenticity and so they become overly-polite and overly-grateful for all the care, love and attention they receive, however they don't dare to ask for anything more (if anything, out of politeness they refuse some of the goods they are being offered). Everything they receive is wonderful and can't help but feeling grateful, even if it's not necessarily something they wished for (but hey - it's still very nice and is rightly perceived as valuable) and in time their own needs and wants atrophy and wither after having been repeatedly overlooked.
So in adult life the difficulty is not being in tune with their own needs, not knowing what they want, not knowing that they can ask for what they want, but unconsciously continuing to expect to receive everything, which of course doesn't happen any more (without a clear reason, since this passive mode of operation is still unconscious), which in turn produces great anxiety.
The standard “big ‘Christian’ family” dynamic
This comment is so concise and so very spot on that I applauded after reading it. You have perfectly described my (possibly) soon- to- be ex. Mid- sixties and still being raised by his mom. Enmeshment....
I can stand behind this as the general theme of my life from as early as I can remember.
Profound & well articulated insight here!! Thank you
I never learned to make my needd known therefore i never learn to ask for help.I grew up in poverty and alcohoism so learned to be self sufficient, unseen and unheard.In my marriage i carried my fears alone but i ended up with major depression and alcoholism.I tried sobriety without a support sysfem in place and had no one when my husband died i returned to alcohol briefly after 16 years of sobriety.My 2nd marriage was to a narcissist who literally exhausted me like a 2 year old child.It was not a healthy relationship..I tried to end my life but thank god i didn't succeed.Now i find out about CPSTD and it make sense.
@Helen so sorry that narc saw you coming a mile away. Thank God you got out
Be strong 😍
Keep healing....you are so worth it...I wish you all the best...
Addiction is the result of repetition compulsion attempting to work out trauma ineffectively. Problem drinking/drug abuse is effective while under the influence, but the failure loop that leads substance abuse to addiction is because it wears off. This is the same mechanism that drives serial killing in most cases (sublimated rage toward the mother that doesn’t establish safety because it doesn’t eliminate it’s object). Pay attention next time some kid shoots up his whole family… If he gets the mother he usually calls the popo himself and surrenders calmly, even politely.
AA is a functional workaround for narcissism. Moral inventory accountability and self examination for people who don’t do that otherwise. I’m not shaming you I had 30 years in and out with 6 1/2 as the longest stretch until I even realized my trauma-which narcissists of course seal off and just need help living in polite society (and will stop drinking if they have a steady stream of “newcomers” upon whom to prey and next to whom to feel superior). Getting squirrelly without meetings is jonesIng for supply. The concept of terminal uniqueness and “I had to stop playing God - - who the fuck ever heard or ever thought like that but I was told “fake it till you make it“ which was a very unnatural sounding thing but of course is perfectly natural to a narcissist.
Anyway what I’m saying is we all have some of it in us and maybe before calling your ex a narcissist or feeling superior to the person who keeps getting six months and relapsing (probably because they don’t need narcissism anonymous but need to get the goddamn narcissists who are still extracting marrow out of their lives) give a bit of thought to what kind of group can’t acknowledge it’s leadership (paraphrased) “lest problems of property or prestige divert [us] from [our] primary purpose”.
I have Borderline Personality Disorder, Chronic Depression, PTSD, AuDHD and in the process of getting diagnosed with Williams Syndrome. I have the Destroyer self-critic and it’s honestly unbearable sometimes. I always surrounded myself with mentally ill people because they feel comfortable and familiar. Now I have a boyfriend who is perfectly healthy, had a happy childhood and recently inner critics came up in conversation and he told me his inner voice is kind. I almost cried..
I’m curious how does he manage the relationship
curious why u almost cried.
. thought experiment...and i just noticed you dont use posseive "my self-critic" because i was gonna reword it to
"my self-critic has been historicially desctructive"...
the goal : taking the "is" out . the solidity. before the 'clay' was kiln fired. hardend... into "Destroyer". opening up potential for change
and if im making sense. this hopefully shows how these "word puzzles" could be a tool...
the activity is the same as in head but the paper dont fight back...
even changin 1 word ...hungry instead of starving is is a good example
On the flipside of all of this, you were somehow a match to him energetically so that likely means you've done shittonnes of healing and worked hard on yourself! Kudos to you!
As a grown man I teared up at the last two sentences. It's just unimaginable for me to have a kind inner voice.
What is Williams syndrome ?
You hit the nail on the head about how Western culture creates these problems. The indigenous children I live with are still raised by extended family in a village they don't want to leave unless necessary for economic survival. This is in the Andes of Ecuador. Every day I am impressed by the relative self-confidence, cooperation, courtesy and calmness of the children, teens and adults. I always can tell when a child was raised by parents alone in a city or another country. Those kids are whiney, clingy, demanding, territorial, interrupt and have tantrums. If I happen to ask, indeed I will be told that this child was not raised in the village with their extended family. They were raised more in alignment with our Western values and nuclear family system.
Not in Australia. Rates of family violence, childhood abuse and neglect in Indigenous populations are high. That's why Australian government intervention happened. It was very heavy handed and arguably discriminatory. But it wasn't baseles
This is what happened when his people were fleeced, beaten, raped and abused, separated from their lands and their lives with one of the most brutal genocides in history perpetrated by the British colonizers.
Drugs, alcohol, violence...COMPLEX TRAUMA
It is more than studied.
Ahhhh
It's really amazing how he can make sense out of things we normalized or at least thought/think were/are fairly "normal" thanks to our upbringing. I always feel like Tim "gets me" in a way that so many others never have- including myself. 🙁
I became self-sufficient in my mid-teens bc I was sick of my parents and others holding anything they ever did for me over my head. Even if it came to buying deodorant, shampoo, basic necessities or something I would pay for it. If I bought something for my parents when they asked (or not) - always being the daughter that thought I could buy or earn their love in hope of even have them "like me", I wouldn't accept their money. They, on the other hand, expected me to pay them back- with tax, to the penny. Prior to me independently buying my own necessities and beyond, my mom would write the price on a tube of toothpaste or anything she happened to buy whether I asked for it or not with black Sharpie marker so I would know what she did for me and that I owed her $_____. It was helpful in learning how much things cost and prepared me for 'the real world', but the reason behind it was more out of spite than educating.
To this day, people who know me will often comment "I know you don't like gifts/ help/ people doing stuff for you, but will you please at least allow me to do_____?" I get a sickening/ anxious physical reaction any time someone wants to do XYZ. I've tried practicing allowing help or whatever, but always find myself defaulting to my typical mindset because it's an unbearable idea or one I ruminate about and can't move past until I've "repaid them". Birthdays and holidays are dreadful. I love to give and do what I can for others, but receiving/ accepting gives me tremendous anxiety. I always say "do something for me by not doing anything for me and that will make me feel good." My therapist helped give me the perspective that I was essentially depriving others of the same joy I find and cherish in helping others if I don't allow them the opportunity to help me somehow. Sorry for the novel.
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Someone told me that I'm a "people pleaser" the other day and I've been thinking about it ever since. I don't know what caused this video to be suggested to me, but damn it hits home.
I remember my mother asking me every time I cried or needed anything, "what do you want from me?" She was so annoyed or angry with me anytime I needed her, that I stopped bothering her. Then she got mad at me when I grew up and moved away and didnt keep in touch with her as often as she wanted. I couldnt win with her.
I don’t know any Christian that speaks like this. With this truth, awareness, and care for the human experience. And doesn’t force their religion on you with fear mongering. I have been surrounded by Christians that believe it would be sinful to bring any of this up. The spiritual bypassing is strong and a survival technique with them. It’s also deeply conditioned in me. Modern Christianity has in itself become so abusive and neglectful of the human experience in many different sects of the religion. So I subscribe because it’s refreshing to finally hear the truth…from a Christian. But I feel reluctant and that I must be carefully discerning to receive teachings from a Christian at the same time 🥺 spiritual trauma cuts deep.
One thing I have done in regard to Christianity is to study the Gnostic Chritians. They have a fascinating perspective on Christ and most of their writings date to a time that was closer to the time Christ was alive than the actual standardized Bible.
It’s deeper than SA
@@user-zb8lz9vs2d you’re right. Sorry if you’ve had to experience multiple complex traumas to understand these comparisons. But you are completely correct!
When I was younger I had to care for my sisters children, my little sister and my mom. I took care of everything. I wasn't allowed to voice my thoughts. I wasn't allowed to say this is too hard. It's too much for me. Anything I said to be heard was quickly snuffed out. I was told I was ungrateful, a bad child, I was to be obedient. Seen and not heard. If I didn't obey and needed help one day they would abandon me. The only reason I was born was to serve.
I have felt like Cinderella my whole life except for not having a protective fairy nor a Prince. I just meet big babies but, of course, they never showed up like that. They revealed once they have me hooked. Never wanted babies because I had to take care of my younger sister and always blamed for their misdeeds. I was a mother and a maid before becoming a woman. I can't trust neither men nor women.
I hope you have freed yourself?
Well I got 18 out of 18, top of the class for being a burden. No wonder it is so hard 🤨
I got 21 out of 18...extra credit😉
Oooh, this one really hit home. I cannot thank you enough for making these videos freely available to the public. The insights you share have been profoundly eye-opening and amazing in their timing right now in my life. I've learnt more about myself and my entire family dynamic from you than from 18 years of counselling and self-help books. Thank you, thank you, thank you.
I've said the pretty much the same thing. I learned and come to understand more in 30 minutes of listening to Tim than I have in 20+ years of consistent therapy, hospitalizations and being on medications.
@@JustJ-Me will it be forgotten to quick a blip thats gone wasnt able to root securely into memory
I know! It’s been life changing for me!😊
@@kristinvazquez231not for me it hasn’t. These were the beginning of a new life ❤
These characteristics are like layers of my persona or pages in my book, just being aware of them is helpful
My mom took me out of school to watch my 3 younger sisters. Then later I wasn't alowed to say thats what happened.
I have to say, as a person is is very hostile towards Christianity because of childhood trauma, you as a pastor is not like most Christians I've met. You are knowledgeable. You understand human psychology better than most pastors. You display humility and true love and understanding. ❤❤❤ thank you. Even though I don't believe in God, you display the ki d of love that most people claim is "Godly".
Very interesting talk as usual, have learnt so much from Tim. I don't rely on other ppl for anything and have always been self sufficient. For me this is normal but listening to these talks makes me realize how different I am to ppl that don't have a background of trauma.
Usually they don't know what trauma is!
Thank you for all the work you’re doing for those of us with complex trauma. I’m not religious but I find myself really enjoying the biblical stories, also.
Me too
I have read the whole Bible but it was decades ago. I remember I enjoyed Proverbs and Exclesiastes and got scared and confused with Revelations ( Apocalypse).
God is the only reason im still here. Keep reading the stories, they are about you!
Tim Fletcher is the man i wish i saw many years ago. But still today he is of great help. Thank you for your knowledge and wisdom.
There are safe people out there?
@Pam, my thoughts exactly
@Pam yes, I had that question bubbling up as he spoke. I ask “Tim, how do you know or recognize who is safe?” It surely depends on whether they understand deeply traumatized people and can validate, guide, encourage, soothe and shine the light of healing on their soul. But that would have to be a super human….it would be supra human…..that would be Creation, God!! No rejection there. I see how unshakeable faith develops - the belief in an unconditionally loving God. To your point Pam, I haven’t found a safe person on my road to recovery because in my aura are deep needs that attract people who, after a short while reject, abandon, disrespect, abuse me…..it seems like a never-ending cycle/circle. I wish you healing & all the best 💕
@@AllIn1Studio hey thanks for your reply..its so helpful to know another person has experienced a similar thing..no contact has helped me alot and yes praying to God but once you leave the cave its like they are waiting to attack..but they do it in such a subtle way you dont see it comming then its back to the drawing board..people have learned to manipulate empathic people and use it
For their own advantage..this is now a worldl wide problem..but at some point
A bigger bully will get the smaller ones
Then there might be a change..but not until they become targets themselves
What can we do?..walk the narrow path and let God take us to safety
Our Father gave us the Councillor
The Holy Spirit which is the spirit of Truth ..cuz once you see it you CANT
Unsee it..Good Luck to you my friend
Your words help those that need to hear them..peace..BOSTON
I don't think so LOL.
Yes most of them are damaged people like us. Our advantage of being traumatized is compassion and understanding
I married someone who also let me know not to have needs. Guess that was all I knew. The marriage did not last. I see that I still worry about being "needy" and don't think this will ever go away.
That's why everyone says you have to develop love of self, and then all the world can be your support! A good relationship with yourself can be enough, i believe.
Yes I learned to love myself when I really was able to receive Christ love for me about 4 years ago. I'm 64.
It has to be enough. If it weren't enough, the loneliness would kill the person. Everyone needs a support system and it's soul crushing without one
I see my parents in some of these descriptions but most importantly I see myself in some and that's the only aspect that I can change. Myself. My parenting.
And now I'm a textbook Dismissive avoidant who can't even stand others. I'm hyper independent and get very suspicious of other people's help. I constantly question what's their motive. They have to be after something
Moral of story be perfect parent. 😂🤣🥂🥂. Basically we all have flaws and as long as you own it and work on it you are an amazing parent!!
I was raised to believe that everyone else's needs must be met before my own, but to ask for anything myself was selfish and greedy. The family that I abandoned to reclaim my sanity still tries to contact me, but at this point late in my life, I'm too busy making up for lost time. My life is pretty incredible now. I am alone, and maybe too psychologically damaged to be lonely. I do not expect to ever have a safe, loving relationship with a man. I do think about it, but I firmly believe that safe, healthy relationships only happen in fantasy novels, which is why they're called fantasy novels.
You must have money if your life is "incredible" because I've always known money would have been a solution to my situation.
If you move beyond your fear, love will find you. Stay honest and you'll attract authenticity. The pressures to be in a loving relationship need not apply. Friendship is a place to begin. Either way, you're not too damaged to be loved.
So good. These talks are so healing for the world 🌎 hope it reaches everyone who needs it ❤️
Great timing for this video. I have this fear of being a burden and priding myself on being independent but learnt here that being interdependent is the answer. I realise how important it is to ask for help and get needs met and it is not a sign of weakness. Thank you for this teaching.
I can hear and acknowledge it regularly, but putting it into practice/ applying it is a whole other story for me.
All I attract are NPD so thanks , but I’ll continue to stay alone until I can see there are no more NPD !
We all can be selfish especially when we want space and tranquility-
But I think the best thing is to get rid of NPD completely because they WANT ALL THE ATTENTION!!!! You need a little , but they need an insurmountable AMOUNT that never ends !!!
oh damn... 18 characteristics and ALL of them match me pretty good... :/
Edit. 18 characteristics of parents also match very well, but the strong one is no. 12 "Expected you to learn something the first time and do it perfectly" oh yeah when i think about it in that moment i feel like it was in my bloody childhood all the time (oh actually it is still present when i would do something in presence of that narcisistic father), it was so strong, and it cause so much damage i can't even start doing anything new i want or i would like to do, when i try to learn new skills i got kinda stuck after very short time(sometimes i even got stuck in my mind before i start doing it, i just think oh yeah would be nice to do it or learn this or that but nah its nor for me, i cant learn it, it wont work for me...), because when i see what professionals can do and what i did after my firsts tries i feel resigned, that im bad, worse, and never achieve anything in that thing
I am from an orphanage but my adoptive family had a lot of conflict and issues. I identify with a lot of this. Therapist helped though this information is very good. Thanks for this upload!
I see Tim and his talks as the parts of self compassion being discovered and drawn closer together. Hopefully one day soon we will be able to feel some compassion for the child in us that had to endure and survive. In a way we have to see, hear, feel, accept and love that inner child in the same way that we would hopefully do if we saw a child go through the same things today and Infront of us. What would you do if you saw a child in distress, sad, angry, lonely and so on?
I'm so good at picking up on others' needs and emotions. I'm quick to give others what I felt I never received and desired or needed. I can't seem to allow myself the same compassion though.
I love your series, especially towards the end of each episode when you bring characters from the Bible into your teachings. We are all broken and I thank God for His guidance and for inspiring others to help us also. Thank you!
It's the other way round for me. Bible talk makes me switch a video off immediately.
Boy is this triggering. This is like therapy, one video to be digested for a long time. Tim Fletcher, thank you so much for these videos. Your overwhelming well of knowledge and empathy is priceless. You do inspire me to do more for others. God bless you ❤.
so you may help feed the 2o yr old their soup, but that DOESNT mean you arent going to help them, its just going to be a different type of help.... its a very fine line between helping and enabling
Or the parents didn’t want another child and told you growing up and constantly reminded you through your life that you were a mistake but they kept you anyway and l must be grateful for it!
Or you were the only child to a single mother (unmarried) and the mother was forced to move back in with her parents and they abused her nonstop. Yelling at her about how she could be so stupid. So there were two female narcissistic people in my house: my mother and grandmother. My grandfather was powerless and only on rare occasions did he stand up to them. And each time I got sick I was yelled at. Had to go to school with pneumonia too. In 2nd grade.
I can’t even make it through this, it’s so painful. I feel both the hurt of how my parents fell short… and the pain of realizing how many of these same things I’ve done to my own children because I didn’t know how damaging it was.
Well, it's probably healing to tell your own children that you messed up sometimes. The thing is Narcissists do not apologize for anything ever. My mother hates me. My older brother committed su*cide.
"we are becoming an increasingly fractured society..." yeah, thats part of the plan, its by DESIGN...
I was " middle class" with a narc mom so her neglect of me was under the radar. Anyone else experience that?
Yes, it goes even further under the radar when “upper-middle class”. Emotional abuse/neglect is impossibly visible to anyone on the outside because you’ve been given so much. (Money, that is)
You’re not alone ❤
@@buchrisss your kind words mean a lot. Thank u
No. We were low-class so being poor was always the excuse she used. But she always had money for wine and cigarettes and her cable TV. What I had were very selfish parents that had no relationship skills so they got divorced. My mother then had a boyfriend who I thought was intimidating and he died in a drunk driving accident apparently... my mother went on to marry someone with more money who doesn't mind her alcoholism. My older brother committed su*c*de. My parents didn't do things like help me research scholarships or they didn't have real interest in my education. But by "under the radar" I think a lot of people do not see what the Narcissists are doing. Nobody really cares. My mother was always viewed as a victim and "a saint" my mother reserved her hatred for my brother and myself it seems. People like her because she doesn't treat THEM like shyt. It's just me who she calls "a Biotch"... abuse is like that. It's reserved for the TARGET. Not everybody is the narcissists target.
I hesitated to click on this because I can’t believe my parents were narcissistic in any way - but then I kept listening and he mentioned every single scenario I lived and continue to live in. I had a suicidal mother whom I was always afraid would disappear or kill herself - I did everything in my power to keep her happy so I never allowed myself to have any needs. My dad was a workaholic who coped with my mother’s depression and suicidal ideation by staying away.
This is exactly how I feel every day. I had no idea this was my problem despite being keenly aware I was raised by a narcissistic sociopath.
This video has come to me at the absolutely most perfect time, it was exactly what I needed to understand, thank you!
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This man speaks the truth.
Very insightful.
I had my closest friend recently tell me that she needed a break from talking to me and it triggered feeling like a burden. I know it comes from my childhood. My mother was a narcissist. I can't seem to forgive this friend. I understand that she needed alone time but I cannot get rid of the feeling of being a burden. I'm not sure I want to forgive her.
i didnt. in the apocalypse? yeah, they're out. did it hurt?
yes.
She is unable to be a supportive friend. Let her go and keep working on the fears. You are worth someone's time, energy and care
You need to find friends who are invested in recovery
Also had a friend say this to me .. when I was in need she told me she had her own needs she was dealing with .. it hurt .. but now I see and respect her for this .. when we are sinking we can cling to others who might also be drowning .. and they simply cannot be there for us .. if it’s repetitive that people can’t be there for us .. that’s a friendship to let go of ☮️
I also think when we have gone through trauma we can sometimes also overshare and dump all our problems on one person and it can become an incessant loop . It’s a hard one, finding the balance . We need to share but it’s also hard if someone is only hearing about problems too . My twin-sister soMetiems lets me know this compassionately . I’m sure your friend cares .. perhaps she was just letting you kindly knkw she didn’t have any more capacity .
Thank you Tim, I appreciate your teachings.
Asking family to help and it’s toxic!!! Truth! Be prepared to move out of comfort zone!!! True after abuse!!!
This guy hits the spot again. He’s as good as Berne brown. Really he articulates everything that ptsd people go through.
I really appreciate and, for what’s worth, I agree with the theory of trauma explained. I puzzled about the connection with Christianity: a culture which hinges on making people feel wrong and guilty, which perpetrated abuse of power and protected the abusers from the law. I’m Italian and I’ve seen the extensive damage made by Catholics within my family and in the broader society. Catholics need to traumatize children in order to have adults seeking a safe person or entity to turn to. The Bible keeps swinging between atrocities and beatitudes, impossible to reconcile unless you give up your common sense, I.e. unless you turn yourself into a sheep, for the happiness of you pastor.
Toxic parents have been often subject of psychological violence by the church: this is what I witnessed.
Everytime I was sick my mom was magically sick. From I was a toddler to now (23 years old). So if anyone (family, her work friends) called asking how I am, she’d divert the attention to how she’s more sick and how taking care of me made her more stressed because I was sick and no one was there to take care of her. Mind you she would only emote/show symptoms the moment they’d ask about me/I’d cry in pain/ask for pain management so it was pretty obvious of her faking it. It was like the scene in Midsommar when Dani was crying and all the women gathered around her and started crying to brainwash her..
I remember my mom just absolutely screaming at me at the top of her lungs because I woke her up in the morning once (the first time I remember it happening), I wasnt more than 3-4 years old... and that was just the beginning of a whole lot of bad memories
Regarding why we do not ask help…I would add another reason, and that is when you ask the help, then people ask you to help in return with something, that is too much and you don’t want to disappoint them with saying “no”. Plus I personally do not want to have a feeling like I owe something. What’s the trauma behind that?
I didn’t listen yet but I grew up in a home where there was no love or nurture. We were looked at as work. My parents sacrificed a lot to give us what we wanted (material stuff) but never what we needed. Now I find it so hard to meet my children’s needs. I’m very dysfunctional and selfish. I’m very aware of my toxic behavior but find it hard to cope with day to day life sometimes. I believe I also have undiagnosed ASD or ADHD. Easy tasks are very complex to me and I’m emotionally immature. My children deserve so much better. My almost 18 year old daughter (had her at 19) says they couldn’t have picked a better mom. I think she says that to make me feel better. I wish I had more help.
Same childhood for me and my 18yr old son and 16yr old daughter say the same thing yet I feel the same way as you described also. Love to you ❤
It has helped me to study EIP: emotionally immature parents. I understand my own childhood beliefs and also understand what I passed on to my children, thus to my grandchildren.
I started crying after the 18th. I have c-ptsd with dissasociation with amnesia and multiple personality disorder.my dad took a crow bar after me, into the restaurant where I worked, I was sitting having tea with gus the manager and dad came in an slammed that table and 1half inch away from my nose. And said I'll be sitting out there waiting for you. , I went there for help cause I worked there and we got a plan made. I went to a safe house and yheother ones went on a high speed chase with the cops chasing them. 157 miles an hr they were going and he tried to crunch into them so they stopped. My dad went yanked that door open, grabbed Cindy my girlfriend, and was ready to pound on her with the crow bar but the guys wouldn't let go of her legs to keep her in, by then the cops were there., but I called on my friends and we made a plan to get me to a safe place. I thank those people, I would be dead at 14yrs old. He said I'll get u before yr 18. And I was visiting my brother . Thank you! I found this channel , and I subbed and shared. ❤ ✌ 🌞
I was so deeply into this pattern of trying to do things perfectly and meeting everyone's needs while having no needs of my own, I ended up nearly dying from rare heart condition. After my health was compromised and I was disabled I was left penniless and alone while the people I loved and trusted the most were smearing me. No one helped me because no one knew what was actually happening. It was awful and illuminating.
Beingvraised to ignore my needs and never be a burden is also a burden as a parent because when youre kids ask for help, you unknowingly pass all this down to them.."oh, let me tell you how hard i had it". This also produces more shame and guilt for the poor job i did as a parent. We are not burdens and they are not burdens.
Thank you so much. This is going to be so helpful in my life. God Bless your ministry
Unfortunately in a selfish world we are driven to be independent. Neighbors don’t hardly help anymore , everyone is selfish and lazy and puts a cash price to every deed .
It's so sad that i have all the signs you listed
These seminars are just pure Gold. Thanks for your teachings.
Yay!!! I'm a victim😂😂😂
Thought I had it all figured out... Back to the drawing board. Life is a ruthless cycle. Live it right and you'll welcome death. Nap time will be glorious! Great video.
My heart fills with joy when I see two people with such common sense discussing for millions to see on what is basically mass hysteria at this point. Thank you TCN ‼️
We have the opportunity to heal! 🙏🏼
It must have been hard; staying in line
Knowing your influences insisted all the time
It must have been strange; living in blue
And see me shut down as though
It was an easy thing to do
But you could tell where I had been
By the way I held my gun
Trying to write anything
While being mocked by an off beat drum.
But I was not honest
I was not healthy
I was not honest, honest
You did the right thing
Covered your scars
Challenged your faith
And closed your eyes driving cars
For all that they knew
You were safe home
But you went through hell
Whenever you were left alone
But you could see where I had been
From the pictures that they took
I tried to look positive at things
Faced myself but didn't look
That was not honest
I was not healthy
I am not honest, honest
I wish you could see
Yourself through my eyes
There's no need to cling
To unnecessary lies
The voice in your head
Whose spirit you stole
Left you for dead
But you dug the hole
And I can tell where you had been
From the marks around your wrists
The red water washed around your sins
But are you as pure as this?
No, you are not honest
You are not healthy
You are not honest, honest
No, you are not honest
You are not healthy
You are not honest, honest
I'm always looking forward to the Christian part at the end.i'm enjoying it thank you
Dammmmmmmmmmn .....oooooh lord have mercy , you nailed it
I don't think my parents were narcs but I have all these feelings and thoughts
My mother is a narcissist and an alcoholic. It wasn't until sometimes in my 20s that I started to connect the dots. Not all Narcissists are the kind that stare at themselves in the mirror. That is just a very SIMPLE pop culture idea of narcissism. In reality narcissism is a deep-rooted personality issue. The relationship I have with my mother is 100% fake. I still talk to her though I shouldn't and maybe in the future if I move to a different city and get busy surrounding myself with new people maybe it will sort itself out. My mother has always treated me differently than she does other people. For example I went over to her house to pull some weeds and transplant some vegetables. Not because I want to HELP HER, I do it because I like to garden and I don't have a garden. Of course I don't have one.. anyhow. I text her tell her I am on my way. I come in and I say hello to her husband's relatives who are visiting from out of state. I politely ask them briefly if they enjoyed their morning adventure driving around the nearby town... then I go outside and garden until it starts to rain a little bit and I come back in for a cup of coffee. The thing is, they entire time my mother is fully engaged in talking to them, she is looking at them, she is paying attention to them. My mother is ignoring me the entire time. She opens the door to let me in but that is it. She doesn't make eye contact she barely says hello. She doesn't say goodbye. To her I am invisible and her husband is okay with it too. Her husband is also okay with treating me like I am invisible. This is a pattern that will never change, they will always treat me in this disrespecting way. I will always be a lesser-class. The thing is having a mother that does this to a person throughout one's entire life it has a real emotional toll. There are educational videos about parental neglect on young children and how those children become withdrawn. It actually changes a person's personality and behavior. I was a very withdrawn child, very quiet, sort of non existent. My mother always wanted me to shut up and not speak. I wasn't meant to communicate at all. I'm much older now. I can see that I was right about her. My mother is a narcissist.
Asking for a friend how do you get healthy interdependence when 99 per event of people has stabbed you in the back?? I agree connections important but when so many people have lied you and hurt you and used you for their own reasoning it’s very difficult to not want to heal on your own and I think you can heal on your own it just takes a very unique individual that can do that and it’s not for the faint of heart and I think some people can do it again it’s just rare!!!
Yes very true. I always try to research on my own and help myself. It’s very hard to trust others when in the past your vulnerabilities or information you shared with supposed trusted adults was used against you
@Sara Fox truths and getting more so that way daily!
@@CMM726 truths!
This is very well explained, thank you sir. This describes me or one of my brothers and sisters 100 percent.
The worst thing is people can see you don’t feel worthy of their help and they shrug and leave you like someone on Everest to die of cold on your own while they continue on their journey with no consequences for their conscience.
That is life though isn't it. There just isn't enough room on top of Mt Everest for everybody and IF everybody were there then "special people" would have to find a new "special place" for only the "select" "special people"... meh. From what I can see in this world is there is no help. Everything that is done is a service for a fee. Even this guy's video links to a website and fee services where you can pay him. It's a scam like everything else.
This really hit home for me - yes to all 18 characteristics. Many thanks for your valuable work. 🦋
I extremely appreciate your videos, the Lord bless you abundantly! Praying for you and your family!! Every single word was amazing, the last part talking about Joseph, so much was similar to my life
I was born to a codependant military covert narc dad and a codependant akcoholic milignant narx so cqlled mom evsryrhing this man is saying has happened to me i lived to the other side and healing. I got a whole lot from this
The "Signs that you have an issue" are things my mother actually told me when I was growing up!! Holy Cow, no wonder I am terrified to ask for help 😞. If I ever asked for help from my family they not only refused, they punished me by cutting me out of the family all together. I once even managed to find a psychologist who treated me the same way. It's amazing what the power of beliefs can create in our lives.
Yeah. PA Dutch culture outright tells you that’s how to be a “good” person. Always work, never need, and if you need anything you need to work more, and if you can’t work, that just means you’re weak and need to work more so you can work more.
Re the Joseph story: If we are told Jacob favored him because he was born to him in his old age then we are told all we need to know. OF COURSE he had a dream that he would be bowed down to - - he was the narcissistic golden child🙄. No mention is made that his father appreciated him being a tattletale (nor, notably, that he parented him appropriately out of that as he should have). From personal experience with my younger half-brother (who also got a larger share of the inheritance though that was sprung as a surprise I was the fool to never consider would be other than simplicity and equanimity) who could never do anything wrong while I could never do anything right I’m quite sure you have a very troublesome misapprehension of what went on - and based only on the details of the story (which I’ve long-forgotten) as you reported them.
Trying to help them get over their hatred?! It’s RIGHT that his father favored him?! What you are describing is narcissistic entitlement, duh. His brothers hated the little shit because he bore false witness against them and they realized they should’ve strangled him in his goddamn crib - which they would’ve done if they were half as awful as what you imply he told his father. I had two stepmothers (and a stepfather) as well so your context brings up an interesting point to me- if Jacob had so many wives yet marriage is a vow between one man and one woman why is it not obvious that 1) there’s no such thing as a messed up kid with a good enough parent and 2) god’s “chosen people“ have been running the original master race con on the rest of humanity for two millennia via gaslighting bibletexts? Rhetorical. Their narcissism had to be familial before it became tribal but there is no doubt that the h’caust was less mimetic scapegoating than posttraumatic retaliatory megalomaniacal tyranny of the AshkeNAZIm by a half-Khazar dictator seeking to take over their brand PROBABLY BECAUSE THEY’D EXCLUDED HIM so cruelly as a child.
Not saying his retaliation wasn’t misdirected/displaced or was even fathomable in actual deed, but narcissists live in a deluded unreality. Having an understandable childhood fantasy for the disappearance of his oppressors was the result of THEIR actively perpetuating a sick intergenerational legacy even if his going completely off the rails with it was not. Pretty sure fiat currency was now the inevitable hyperevolution of a banking system THEY ALSO INFLICTED (moneychangers in the temple) to which the facilitation of exchange of real value has been recklessly entrusted (which by necessitating the legitimacy of arbitrary value) has instead enabled conflagrations of arbitrary value to dilute the meaning of real value and undermine incentive toward it. Life doesn’t LOSE purpose without a made-up god who doesn’t forgive the unrepentant yet drives the pseudomoralistic corrosion of virtue encouraging forgiveness of the unforgivable and unworthy. Victims do forgive, and that’s why they remain victims. Forgiveness is earned not owed and is only to the benefit of the transgressor.
Life GAINS purpose when our own morality is not stunted by accepting answers to questions we haven’t asked which in turn causes us to stop thinking for ourselves and is no accident. You must realize that religion perpetrates moral abuse and if it were anything good it would not rely so heavily upon being inculcated into minds too young to refuse or consent and would do something about the evil in the world instead of obscuring it by doing nothing except about that which it manufactures for the sake of creating enmity. If pro-lifers were about the sanctity of life then there would be just as much objection to capital punishment as there is to abortion from that bunch. Neither abortion nor capital punishment are great things but the moral person doesn’t need to see his ideal standard reflected back to him in the conduct of others nearly so much as he is just grateful to not be in the position of having taken a life in self-defense or losing a first-degree relative to a capital crime. People against abortion should not have them but the unbelievably deluded fantasy of deific favor so entitled it doesn’t have enough sense to to just leave the next bitch in her own goddamn situation alone to live her own motherfucking life is so far beyond astounding…..the same way they shouldn’t marry someone gay if they are opposed to gay marriage (which was never more than a an endeavor seeking civil parity as I understand it). The realization that life’s purpose is to leave other lives better for our participation in them is lost by the complacent characterless deferral to an imaginary next life of punishment and reward for transgressions and decency in this one. You have some very useful helpful insights otherwise so I’m shocked that you fall for Joseph thinking he is the scapegoat the way the golden always mindblowingly does.
I haven't read your entire comment but, as far as I'm getting a criticism of the Bible story, I totally agree! It's an utter disgrace to finish a beautiful presentation on the theory of trauma (with which I agree with pleasure and relief) with that wicked story that makes little to no sense, delivered with the very same manipulative rhetoric he highlighted as a trait of bad parenting. I'm especially upset by the emphasis with which Tim tells the story to an audience that most likely suffered from trauma: he's telling a triggering story then offering salvation by appealing to an imaginary "father". Disgusting. Christianity lives off of traumatised people, that's why they need to traumatise children with actual violence or mind-boggling stories of violence. The stories of an eternal bipolar "father" are mind-boggling for children and those alone can induce trauma, sense of guilt, fear of speaking up, etc.
@@a0um indeed. And furthermore a person whose mother conceals her likely infidelity or possible rape with some story about having been knocked up by an angel inflicts Folie a deux upon her husband and folie a famille upon her child via a delusion of deific lineage he’d be powerless to not behaviorally/environmentally inherit. And allowing him to stick with that and even be killed for it because by that point she’d realize for the rest of her life among their little band of nutcases she would be the mother of God tells you she was a malignant narcissist and may or may not have been who reveled so much in the victimhood of a grave robbery she cast it as resurrection but for sure that’s all that was. Also explains why god’s so-called chosen people who saw what was going on at the time did not fall for it. That they instead built their own religion around entitlement to exploit the goyim with that gaslighting (bible)text is something else entirely, though for sure it’s Western civ’s defining legacy of cuckoo. Right on, I appreciate your comment. Agreement is somewhat rare, or at least demonstratively so.
I was raised Jewish, and at schul they would teach us the stories from the Torah and Tanak (basically the Old Testament of the bible) and even as a young child I could easily see that the morality of those stories was all fucked up. Often it was in direct contradiction to the morality we were taught from all other venues.
God in the stories always seems to favor the most awful people and punish whole cities or nations of innocent people. I remember wondering about all the children my own age who lived in Sodom and Gomorrah. What had they done to deserve a firey death?
I quit religion when I was 11 because it made no sense at all to me. We have this genocidal God ...and we sit around singing cutesy songs to him on Saturday? Why?
The whole thing (I include all of the Abrahamic religions here) is just worship of the Narcissistic Father in the sky. Traumatized people seek out someone that they hope will be a protector against worse threats, even if that protector is clearly also abusing them.
It has been theorized that this is the actual reason behind circumcision: to traumatize the child or new convert, and thereby create a sort of Stockholm syndrome in them. Women, of course, don't need to be specifically traumatized, since the whole misogynistic culture traumatizes them anyway, from day one, by teaching them that they are objects.
I sincerely hope that the human race can move away from these narcissist-affirming religions in the future.
😩😢😔🤦EXCELLENT!!!🎯 TY💖👏👏👏. PURE VALIDATION!!!💯
My narc mother alone checked 14 out of the 19 types of parents that cause complex trauma.
This guy is good!!! Thanks!!! This is soooo helpful! Dealing with complex PTSD 10 traumas!!! 🤦♀️😢🙏
Thank you for making these videos to help all of us heal.and understand and therefore helping to stop the unhealthy cycles and evolve
Making and contributing and serving your community instead of .......
MIND BLOWN.. Thank you so very much.. 🙂 Your knowledge is greatly appreciated
Sometimes you get to listen what one needs to listen to from time to time. 🎉 Just what is needed to face those fears.thanks man
Once again - thank-you Tim
regarding needs, one thing I learned when you let people help you, give you advice or something, you actually give them the opportunity to prove to themselves how amazing THEY can be. so its not just you taking, its you taking and giving. people like to feel important and capable, and look as someone helping you as you giving them opportunity to shine! this mindset helped me accept and grow, while letting other people also grow.
Thank you so much for all your work! ❤️
Thankyou so very much ,, this explains everything xxxx in tears right now xxx Thankyou god bless xxx
I am The Song Of the Universe!
Today is a Miraculous Wonderfully Magical Day!
I am in my New Earth Divine Crystalline Body!
Thank you for sensical life changing information.
I’m legitimately afraid of how accurately the first 8 minutes of this video described my life. And even more so afraid of how he then proceeded to follow up with NUMEROUS things that described my mom growing up…
This is amazing im i know im walking in my purpose and personal foals and i feel fuilty for it i was born to both narc parents and whole fanilu system i was the scapegoat i went no contact 2 yrs ago and healing
All of the above...
Gratefully, thank you.