Kingdom Hearts: Chain of Memories - Novel vs. Game
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0:00:00 - Intro
0:05:07 - Volume 1: Sora's Story Part 1
0:21:00 - Volume 2: Sora's Story Part 2
0:41:49 - Volume 3: Reverse/Rebirth
1:06:49 - Closing Thoughts
Music used (in order):
"Just Wondering" from Kingdom Hearts Re:Chain of Memories (2007)
"Naminé" from Kingdom Hearts Re:Chain of Memories
"March-A-Long" from Kingdom Hearts Re:Chain of Memories
"Piccolo Resto" from Kingdom Hearts Re:Chain of Memories
"Thirteenth Discretion" from Kingdom Hearts Re:Chain of Memories
"Hand in Hand" from Kingdom Hearts Re:Chain of Memories
"Traverse Town" from Kingdom Hearts Re:Chain of Memories
"The 13th Struggle" from Kingdom Hearts Re:Chain of Memories
"The 13th Floor" from Kingdom Hearts Re:Chain of Memories
"Welcome to Wonderland" from Kingdom Hearts (2002)
"A Day in Agrabah" from Kingdom Hearts
"The Fight for My Friends" from Kingdom Hearts Re:Chain of Memories
"A Very Small Wish" from Kingdom Hearts Re:Chain of Memories
"Disquieting" from Kingdom Hearts Re:Chain of Memories
"The Force in You" from Kingdom Hearts Re:Chain of Memories
"Hollow Bastion" from Kingdom Hearts Re:Chain of Memories
"Scherzo di Notte" from Kingdom Hearts Re:Chain of Memories
"Merlin's Magical House" from Kingdom Hearts
"Winnie the Pooh" from Kingdom Hearts
"Lazy Afternoons" from Kingdom Hearts Re:Chain of Memories
"Scent of Silence" from Kingdom Hearts Re:Chain of Memories
"Destiny Islands" from Kingdom Hearts Re:Chain of Memories
"Struggle Away" from Kingdom Hearts Re:Chain of Memories
"Face It!" from Kingdom Hearts Re:Chain of Memories
"Forgotten Challenge" from Kingdom Hearts Re:Chain of Memories
"Night of the Dark Dream" from Kingdom Hearts Birth by Sleep Final Mix (2011)
"Castle Oblivion" from Kingdom Hearts Re:Chain of Memories
"Scythe of Petals" from Kingdom Hearts Re:Chain of Memories
"Riku" from Kingdom Hearts II (2005)
"Monstrous Monstro" from Kingdom Hearts Re:Chain of Memories
"Night of Fate" from Kingdom Hearts
"The Nightmare" from Kingdom Hearts 3D: Dream Drop Distance (2012)
"Revenge of Chaos" from Kingdom Hearts Re:Chain of Memories
"A Walk in Andante" from Kingdom Hearts II - Ігри
My head canon will be that Pinnochio's nose grew when he said "Oh, so you're alone." cause hes literally standing right next to him, making him not alone. Riku just read too much into it 😂
Honestly, I love the decision of using KH3's data greeting feature to recreate the original scenes along the muffled distorted version of the Sountrack. It was both clever, but also effectly disturbing. Really capture what those passing were going for with the fuzy unerving fake and vague memories.
6:55 The passage about how Marly passing through Sora felt familiar could also be a reference to how Xemnas as the Unknown in KH1FM passed through Sora in a similar manner to sample his memories like Marly did.
Of course, Kairi passing through him makes sense too.
Could also be Ventus though I doubt planning for BBS started that early
@@LimeChana The CoM novel was originally released before KH2 even came out in Japan so yeah it can't be Ven
@@cillbipher2613bbs was also planned, especially that part, before kh2 released. Because roxas existed at all. But it was still most likely referencing kiari because they both passed through his heart in those scenes. Kiari left her heart in his, and Marluxia went through memories, which we know are stored in the heart.
I’ve always felt Riku Replica was underrated as a character. Hearing his experience from his perspective in the novel was quite interesting and endearing. I have even more appreciation for his character now.
He might not be the most important in terms of being a character, but I think in terms of the themes of identity and subsequent tragedy his character introduces and explores, that's really important to the core of several other major characters and even some whole games and y'all need to acknowledge and respect him more.
Great idea using the photo mode to create the scenes that weren't in game!
Agreed! Came to the Comments to say this myself.
Can you please make more of these just having you explain these is really fun for some reason.
He has a chill voice. What a vibe to work to. I still want him to make a BBS treasure guide just because... I'd sit and listen and screech at all the chests I missed
45:13 I freaking love that even parroting other people’s lies makes Pinnochio’s nose grow, whether he knows they’re lies or not.
God how useful would this be in real life
The Riku replica segment actually made me cry the first time I read it. I really just love how the novels get you more in the characters heads and how they also focus more on the characters you dont really think about.
I like how wildly out of character Sora is in Namine's fanfiction memories she creates for Riku Replica.
Also, how did the writers look at CoM and decide RR hadn't suffered enough?!
I actually think the fact that Hook doesn’t act like Hook at all during his fight makes him creepier. It’s like Ansem or the darkness or whatever is merely using Hook’s image in order to further dig deeper into Riku’s insecurities.
43:20 I like how you made a room in Re:Chain specifically to illustrate Riku's secret spot. It might have been a small detail to most, but I appreciate the effort.
He didn't make that room. It's the save room you find at the end of each world after you beat the boss.
The real question is, did he just beat maleficence to get there, or just went to the next floor and walked backward
@@zero1zerolast393 true.
Idiot he didn't make that room.
The "heartless that don't attack" line could also be referring to Halloween Town. The heartless there don't initially attack SDG when they arrive.
Yay! More talking about the novels! While they are sometimes a little simplistic and definitely not always canon accurate, they add a lot of fun insights.
18:20 I don't see that as a writing mistake, I mean, it could be, but I think it's more interesting if you take it as intentional or at least a happy accident.
Because that implies that Sora sees all of what Riku did in KH1 as "being possessed by Ansem" and hasn't really come to terms with the fact that Riku was doing those things on purpose. To purposefully hurt Sora. So it's not only in character for Sora (who is the #1 Riku apologist) but also adds a little nuance. Again, could just be a happy accident, but I like it. ^^
43:00 Yeah, I read it the same way. I think this line in the novels is still good though, because I think "keeping Kairi all to himself" is showing how Riku is really only seeing Kairi as a possession to hold over Sora. It's the way he wins over Sora, by keeping/saving Kairi. Cause he's definitely not considering Kairi's personhood through all this. So while I would like to see that line expanded on or maybe written slightly differently, I also see how it works and shows how dark and confusing Riku's feelings were at the time.
46:41 It's a shame you left out the next part of Riku's thoughts there "Right, because Kairi would only think of Sora. But I was the same. When Sora and I were together we could go anywhere. I really believed that. And then, with Kairi, who had to know something about the outside world...together, there was nowhere we couldn't go." because they are just MWAH (chef's kiss) and while yes, Riku is absolutely being a little shit, it's great insight into what he's feeling and what his hopes and dreams are.
Love the editing you did for the Repliku stuff! That was a great way to visualize it. I just love Repliku's screwy memories in this novels. Sora's as well. It's interesting seeing them go through this brain fog.
Great video, Pat!
Honestly thank you for bringing up the rest of Riku's thoughts at 46:41 . It was a little jarring to hear him skip over it when it seems very important to what Riku's headspace was like and calls back to the KH1 novel where he thinks similarly about asking Sora to go with him when their world fell. Otherwise, yes, it's a great video!
KH2 novels are so interesting, you need to cover them! Not only do they do their own thing, but some of the new scenarios added in the novels were later implemented into kh2's final mix. like the scene with namine, riku and axel in twilight town, and roxas and axel's goodbye scene.
it's not surprising that kanemaki was later hired to be a scenario writer for 358/2 days.
oh man, the riku replica sections were a treat, nicely done! loved the effort you made by remaking them in data greeting, and eerie bg music was a nice touch!
These parts are also interesting since it gives me a bit of insight to why kanemaki was interesting in exploring the concept of replicas while scenario writing for 358. since, if i remember correctly, it was her idea to make xion a replica.
I’m really liking these novel adaptations videos, keep it up, it’s actually somehow reigniting my appreciation for KH by hearing you go into them and then me, later on, reading them myself.
The Replica sections actually gave me goosebumps
Great as always
Some thoughts I had while listening to this:
Regarding the scene where Sora mentions Riku's Darkness Suit was a sign of him being possessed by Ansem, I'm actually inclined to think this isn't a continuity error. Not saying Sora was right, because Riku definitely wasn't possessed yet at the time of their first battle in Hollow Bastion, as Pat pointed out, but rather, I think this is Sora CHOOSING to believe that Riku was already possessed at this point. Why do I think this? Well, as Tennelle Flowers pointed out in his video analyzing Riku, Sora has a persistent habit of ignoring, denying, or rationalizing all of Riku's evil actions. He seems to sincerely believe, or at least sincerely wants to believe, that Riku only did what he did because he was being manipulated or controlled by evil characters like Maleficent and Ansem. This draws a parallel to how Eraqus in Dark Road insists that Darkness only exists in people if it forces its way inside them. He, like Sora, refuses to believe that the people he loves, the people he respects, could just naturally have darkness inside them as a product of their personality and desires. As such, since Sora's first real fight with Riku at Hollow Bastion has him attempt to murder Sora (hence the slow-motion drama of Riku's Dark Firaga in that scene), Sora insisting that Riku only did that because he was possessed at the time is absolutely in-character for Sora. I think he is effectively in denial about how Riku really did try to do some really bad stuff in that game of his own free will.
My Top 5 Guesses for what world they end up at after talking to Namine: Twilight Town, Disney Castle, Traverse Town, Hollow Bastion, World that Never Was
Monstro?! Lmao.
And yes! I would love to see you cover the next novel! Great video!
Was not expecting to see you here Jaru! What a nice surprise!
@@owenbridgers I'm a KH Boomer at heart! xD
I wonder if them talking about the heartless being sluggish and not attacking first is a reference to a Sleeping darkness room card or Stagnant Space where the heartless all move slowly? It would be a cool but maybe slightly out of place nod to the game mechanics,
Also I love Roxas zooming past on the skateboard and Riku angrily trying to chase him down
I loved that you kept the visuals in-line with the story to the point of relying on custom datagrams to stick to the commitment. I really did appreciate all of the attention to detail you seemed to put into every shot and clip for over an hour. Well done!
That whole section with Replica was amazingly imo. Very existential and kinda terrifying...
If Kingdom Hearts somehow released a high budget visual novel akin to Type Moon.... Yeah I would buy it tbh XD I like how these stories add in novel thoughts into the scenes of the games! Also VERY VERY GREAT JOB with the way you composed the Repliku scenes, it felt very creepy the way you used music like I'm just a kid watching something on an old CRT, a recording of me watching on an old CRT
WOW that repliku chapter was REALLY creepy. I don't know how to describe it, just the concept and the way it's described, helped by the piano destiny islands and, kind of hilarious but well done KH3 snaps, just sent shivers down my spine, very unnerving.
It's similar to the kind of feelings I felt listening to everywhere at the end of time but nowhere near as intense obviously. Something about that things sentience ebbing and flowing is just, ugh.
Haven’t even gotten into the first minute but I know I’m gonna love this video
Using photo mode to explain new scenes was genius, wow! Great video, I can't tell how annoying these are to make but I certainly have a lot of fun hearing your thoughts on the novels. I'm really fond on the novels, 358/2 Days especially. That has A LOT of changes from the game and cutscene movie
The bbs novel is one that is highly recommended looking into it has a lot of cool moments included giving Vanitas a backstory that makes me want to punch Xehanort more than usual it was my introduction to bbs and it’s definitely the best out of the novels I’ve read
It's actually really nice knowing that Riku and Naminé's relationship is given some more depth in the novel. Riku has had strong mixed feelings towards Kairi and Naminé. Naminé meanwhile just wanted to be acknowledged and cared about. It's pretty much canon that the remnants of the heart the Riku Replica was starting to create ended up in the actual Riku. After the Replica died, Riku began to genuinely start liking Naminé not just because she was like Kairi, but for her differences as well. I can only imagine how them working together for a year trying to get Sora's memories back must have been. Skip forward to KH3 and Riku is reminiscing about the Replica and his own feelings towards Naminé. At the end of the game, he's even the one to bring her to the Destiny Islands.
Wow, the Repliku stuff is pretty fascinating. This makes me wish (more than I did before) they'd done more with him in KH3, considering they brought him up again. You did a great job portraying the eerie/dreamlike mood while he was reliving fake memories that weren't even his.
Also, would love a KH2 novel video!! These are funny, informative and super easy to watch.
Dude, why is KH1 Riku/Repliku so much of a yandere in the novels? "Kairi would only think of Sora", "Why won't you let me have Naminé?". Like, dude, chill
Early to a pat video, loving it. I can’t wait to see the comments on the Days Manga, they changes there were hilarious. Plus the heartless bosses go down in a few swings in the manga which I wish they did in game
I really enjoy these recaps, hearing the differences in adaptations is fun and I especially enjoyed the extra effort you put in for the data greeting sections!
I thought using the data greeting for scenes that are unique to the book or don't have a lot of cutscenes material was super cool!! I've always been interested in the books, and I would definitely watch a whole series of this if you end up doing more of the novel/game comparisons.
Great video!! I'd love to see more of these!
love these types of videos!! they're just... really, really neat.
From your description, a 'glob of repeat worlds' makes me really think of the world of darkness from the end of KH1.
Wish I could've called out of work yesterday to watch this as soon as it dropped, great stuff as always.
Yes I would greatly appreciate you reading the Kh2 novel. There is like an entire new subplot that takes up a good half of the novel featuring Axel Riku and namine as their own trio. Some scenes there even inspired FM scenes.
Vexen: *is less conventionally attractive than the rest of the Organization*
COM Novelization: _And I took that personally._
Highly enjoy the visuals you added for the Repliku bits! Another great video.
I think the KH2 novels are the best out of all of the ones I've read so far! (Really only missing BBS and Union X) So I absolutely recommend them. There's a lot of behind the scenes moments with a certain trio (I won't spoil it, but it's not a group you'd expect to be working with each other!) and those were my favorite parts of the story.
Great video. Definitely worth the wait. I have been thinking about buying the novels and hearing you talk about them is very interesting.
I like your Novel vs. Game videos so I'd love to see more :D great use of music and KH3's editor to set the mood
I greatly enjoyed hearing about the novel considering I never would have read it myself. Interesting how many forms of media this story is presented in.
The fact that the replica seems a bit sentient is unnerving. It’s not like it’s personally just changes, it actually contemplated what it’s seeing.
22:10 So, does that mean in the novel continuity, Belle could potentially have a Nobody? Ellbex?
Memories aren't real people but their hearts were extracted for Ansem's keyblade weren't they? But the bodies stayed there
This is awesome! You have yourself a new subscriber!
Very much enjoyed the book coverage your breakdown gives me everything I want to know about what the novels bring to the table. Hope to see more when you are feeling up to it.
Great video. The best KH content on the internet. I really hope you give DDD another chance. I think that game (as well as Re-com) are very underrated
18:45 Donald was real for this.
I think my favorite part of these books is the small quips the author makes about something that clearly annoyed them/caught their attention in the games. Like the part about how they keep rehashing Darkside.
I'm down to see a vid on the KH2 novelizations. I don't usually read game novelizations, so seeing how these played out has been fascinating from an adaptation perspective. I'm used to games being the "final" part of the book->movie->game adaptation chain, and the reverse of that usual flow has a lot of interesting challenges to overcome that are completely different than the usual.
This was a really fun video! I really love looking at the differences between the different versions of the KH story, so it was cool to see such an in depth look. I would LOVE if you did a similar vid for the kh2 novels because there are some really interesting additions that make the kh2 novels (imo) the best of the bunch.
This video is the whole definition of "i expected copper, but never expected to find gold"
The clever use of the Data greeting for the storytelling alings so well with the small changes or interesting portions of the plot in the manga.
Top tier video 🗿
I like the scene recreations using the KH3 photo sandbox.
Sorry it took so long for me to watch this! I was actually watching it along with your Gameboy COM playthrough so I could compare this video to GBA COM as well, but I got too impatient and watched the rest of this video lol
Your editing is so thorough! Thank you for all of your hard work!!!!!
Honestly I hope you cover all the novels this way. Not a lot of people cover them so even though I've already read them it's interesting to hear other people's thoughts
im late to this but id love to see more of these types of videos! its super interesting to see all of the changes :D
I’ve really enjoyed both of these novel break downs
This series slaps, would love to see more!
Love these novel videos!! Ive always been interested in the changes and added characterization in them
I was here before 100 views
Oh you were?
Im, also here
Here at 208
Good job
Been missing your videos pat 💙
I’m replaying through Re:Chain of Memories right now and my brother thinks I’m a masochist because he hates the card mechanic lol
Hearing about all the differences between the games and the novels is super interesting. I’d only recently watched a friend play through most the whole series so all these bits of supplemental material and remixes of the original stories are so interesting to learn about and think about!
After these videos on the novels, I gotta admit, I'm really interested to see how they handle things in the Kingdom Hearts Union X (Or was it Unchained X when they put it out? Oh well, the one based on the gacha) novel. Especially considering it was released before that game's proper conclusion as well as the fact that the game's protagonist is essentially a silent self-insert with a handful of exceptions until the end. Considering the nature of the mobile games being... well, mobile games, I think novelizations and some additional art they seem to have from time to time would probably be interesting. Or more digestible than 6 hour cutscenes from a mobile game. Same goes for Dark Road too, so I hope they do give that and the rest of UX a novelization adaptation too.
The kh2 novels do have more changes. From world order to cutting worlds, to adapting returning worlds that were cut from the previous novelizations to new scenes.
Honestly, I thought Xaldin said something about being the favorite pupil in his death scene in the KH2 novel too. I guess everyone was Ansem the Wise's favorite. Zexion most likely was for real since he's the baby.
I know you think this won't be as well received as your other videos but I really like this "series" (?), it's interesting. Also appreciate your editing and all your work to creates scenes in Data Greeting, that was definitely noticed. I hope you'll do KH2 when you're done being burned out (and any other novels there are, I thought I was gifted a Days novel, but maybe I"m mistaken). Anyway, I appreciated, thumbs up, well done!
I really liked what you did with the data greeting stuff
Video was great honestly. KH2 novel comparison would be fantastic. Hope it's not literally a whole year until you start it though haha. Keep up the good work my guy
You gave me the best idea for the story of my ps1/gba demake of the Dark Seeker Saga. Ariel is going to be a princess of heart. She should give her voice to Ursula in exchange for legs but she meets Riku who kidnaps her and takes her to Hollow Bastion. It'll make Alice's inclusion a little more interesting anyway, since Riku kidnapped Alice so Maleficent would help him get Kairi back, but since she's not a princess of heart, it'll be a failure of Maleficent that she pushes onto Riku.
The Data Greeting scenes were perfect 😂
regular pat video lets go
10:50 canon order is Agraba before Olympus before Wonderland
Pat says that's insane.
Pat goes to Wonderland and proceeds to use the Genie Jafar card.
"Exactly what I would do" my butt.
Thank you for these novel adaptations pat, I would read them but I don’t know how to read!
I forgot how dirty this novel did Vexen 😭
Glad someone referenced that random wrecked truck at the memory skyscraper
Man I love his long videos
Regular pat never disappoints.
When Sora said the feeling of having someone pass through him felt familiar, he also could have been referring to Xemnas/Enigmatic Figure passing through him at the end of KH1:FM.
The CoM version with the most brutal Vexen death was the manga hands down!
Vexen was the most brutal death in the series period. Even the games version was shocking!
Too bad the manga made Vexen's death pointless with all the replica shenanigans.
@@Drums_of_Liberation I love the joke at the end of the manga when Repliku is followed by hella vexen replicas. I never would have thought that throw away joke would be the setup for the org coming back in 3!
I really liked the Hundred Acre Woods segment. While it is a little confusing cannon-wise, I could imagine the author decided to put it in as a good way to get Sora alone for a little bit and reflect on what's going on, watching as his anxiety of the situation continues to eat away at him without the support of his friends. And it's all in the bright and colorful Winnie the Pooh world, it's great!
The BBS novel has some great new parts in the same way that this CoM does, so I’d love to see a video on that down the line!
omg the kh2 novels so so good, i’d love to see a video on it!
31:13 YES! This was the most important part that I needed to know if it would be in the book or not.
Great vid mate the book is strange
Wow I really like why they did with the replica here. I wouldn’t mind some kind of spin off game or cutscene movie thing about that
I’m down for more novel videos, it’s super cool to see
Great video
Time to finally start the weekly KH book club.
7:00 the “being passed through” line also feels like it could also be a reference to when Xemnas walks through Sora before his fight
You got me with “pummel that thumb-el” Take your like already. Lol
Thanks Pat
The whole "Riku being obsessive over Kairi" thing was weird, but Riku gets a lot of strong character moments in the later books, mainly in KH2 and DDD.
Esta chingon el video I love chain of memories
I see whoever titled the "Reverse/Rebirth" chapters shared the mindset I have for naming my Magikarp for any game I'm running a Gyarados in.
@regularpat idk if you will see this comment among the comments on all of your videos but I really enjoyed this video and the kingdom hearts 1 video comparing with the books. I was wondering if you had planned on continuing this series?
Forgot about the new intro so it was a pleasant surprise
W video as usual
For all that I've avoided picking at Re:R/R differences, hadn't expected the Lexaeus battle to've been adapted that way.