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  • A non-believer comes face to face with the God of the Bible.
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    This was my first video. I truly thought this would be the be-all and end-all of my contribution to UA-cam, but once this was out, the ideas didn't stop coming.
    Spoiler alert: things got better over the years.

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  • @legion1a
    @legion1a 5 років тому +2468

    God sacrificed God to God to save God's creations from God.

    • @shaxjack4717
      @shaxjack4717 5 років тому +151

      Yea that's about it... But keep this in mind... These people are not mentally stable... Indoctrination can be incredibly damaging...

    • @elroyfudbucker6806
      @elroyfudbucker6806 5 років тому +22

      Legion1a Thank god

    • @artzarr5032
      @artzarr5032 5 років тому +1

      😳

    • @averageskeletonremover2415
      @averageskeletonremover2415 5 років тому +16

      *self harm is bad*

    • @blackholesun9068
      @blackholesun9068 4 роки тому +35

      If you had a kid playing with insects like that, you’d have him seen by a psychiatrist! Religion knows that most people are self centered and they’ll eat bs up if they think it’s all about them! Humans are bound to extinction!

  • @GWhizard
    @GWhizard 6 років тому +3135

    I'm tired of being made to feel guilty just for being born.

    • @karelkrajicek6607
      @karelkrajicek6607 5 років тому +205

      Of course you are guilty: you are white, so its your fault that there was black slavery, you are men, so its your fault that women in Muslim countries suffer, you are Christian, so its your fault that there were crusades 1000 years ago, you are Jew so its your fault that Jesus died, you are human, so its your fault that Eve eat apple from tree. You are mammal, so its your fault that dinosaurs went extinct. You live on earth, so you should be thankful that the star that was here before sun exploded and created materials in your body.

    • @tastyloaf5487
      @tastyloaf5487 5 років тому +92

      @@karelkrajicek6607 I assume you're being facetious.

    • @tastyloaf5487
      @tastyloaf5487 5 років тому +157

      This was why I was so happy when my Mum became an atheist at age 60.
      She had suffered SO MUCH at the hands of the Catholic church, being caned by nuns, threatened with Hell....
      Atheism was my first step towards emotional freedom.

    • @Sarahmint
      @Sarahmint 5 років тому +30

      Christianity is not the only religion now where you must appologize

    • @TheTeufelhunden68
      @TheTeufelhunden68 5 років тому +16

      @@karelkrajicek6607 That was funny!!!

  • @daverobson3084
    @daverobson3084 6 років тому +2728

    God purchased forgiveness by himself, from himself, and using himself as the currency to pay himself. Perfectly logical.

    • @davidhatcher7016
      @davidhatcher7016 6 років тому +17

      Dave Robson yes lol

    • @kazimahmudurrahman323
      @kazimahmudurrahman323 5 років тому +13

      So why don't u read Quran since there is nothing like this logic in Quran

    • @kazimahmudurrahman323
      @kazimahmudurrahman323 5 років тому +2

      @Buddy3439 actually not did u read it?

    • @bottosrob
      @bottosrob 5 років тому +86

      Kazi Mahmudur Rahman doesn’t Muhammad raise into the sky on a fiery chariot or horse?

    • @darklogic6998
      @darklogic6998 5 років тому +56

      @@bottosrob By holding the ankle of a flying horse. He also split the moon in half. It is the Bible that the guy rode to heaven in a chariot lol. I'm pretty sure at least.
      Edit: It does not say ankle in the Quran or Hadith, so I have no clue where I got that from. Still doesn't make it any more believable though.

  • @DoubleBob
    @DoubleBob 10 років тому +2362

    The existence of such an entity would be a far greater horror than every Cthullhu mythos. Just imagine: An omnipotent, all mighty diety, suffering from a psychosis and schizophrenia, having a lust for murder, suffering and pain. Torn apart between its different alter egos. Oscilating between endless cruelty and endless love.
    It is always there, everywhere. A constant factor in space and time and beyond. Neverending, unforgiving. You can't stop it. You will suffer if you deny it. And all of atheists and all the lack of evidence is just his plot to make you deny it, so he can torture you for ever.
    This is just grim.

    • @PatrickGreeneFearwriter
      @PatrickGreeneFearwriter 10 років тому +173

      If there's any love in such a being, his behavior demonstrates that he is far from omnipotent, IMO.

    • @artsHscience
      @artsHscience 10 років тому +190

      Putting it that way just makes YHWH sound really cool now!
      My favorite horror entity!

    • @kakarotcabage3573
      @kakarotcabage3573 10 років тому +48

      very good analysis

    • @stevenunua2118
      @stevenunua2118 10 років тому +12

      What? Take a look at the world condition and tell me god is not real!

    • @PatrickGreeneFearwriter
      @PatrickGreeneFearwriter 10 років тому +134

      Okay, looking... God is not real.

  • @jahrasta4907
    @jahrasta4907 5 років тому +1299

    My christian pastor talked all kinds of shit about my former religion (LDS). Then I applied the same scrutiny to christianity. It became clear that BS comes in any flavor you want. Glad to have my life back after 40 years of mental bondage.

    • @Jadinandrews
      @Jadinandrews 5 років тому +39

      Jesus, 40 years? How hard was it to break out of old ways of thinking?

    • @freshairkaboom8171
      @freshairkaboom8171 5 років тому +19

      Happy for you mate! Enjoy the rest of your life!

    • @MysticManifesting
      @MysticManifesting 5 років тому +28

      Good for you. I used to attend a "spiritual warfare" church. They talked as much about Satan as Jesus. I walked away from fundamentalist Christianity in my mid-30s. What a burden off my back. I returned to God in my mid-50s, but as a mystic. Totally different flavor. Delicious. Filling. And life-changing. And free of guilt, shame, and condemnation.

    • @freshairkaboom8171
      @freshairkaboom8171 5 років тому +12

      @@MysticManifesting Mystic? Do you believe in fairy magic? Come on, reality is far more interesting, just look what science has discovered and will continue to discover about the universe you and I live in. Think about it, we are one of the only known ways in which the universe is observing and understanding itself. Every single atom in your body was once inside a star that went supernova. We are literally star dust.
      No need to bring in a god to the equation - also, by spreading your beliefs in such a god, you are effectively adding to the numbers of stupid, ignorant, homophobic religious people out there, regardless of whether or not you believe that stuff, so you should still feel guilt unless you have proof to back up your belief.

    • @MysticManifesting
      @MysticManifesting 5 років тому +22

      @@freshairkaboom8171 You don't know what I believe, so you should stick to writing about your own experience and leave mine alone.

  • @fireburn1512
    @fireburn1512 7 років тому +1321

    that stick figure has more Logic than most people i know

    • @francoisworrell9384
      @francoisworrell9384 6 років тому +13

      Cause it is drawn using 1s and 0s :)

    • @tastyloaf5487
      @tastyloaf5487 5 років тому +10

      @@francoisworrell9384 Hmm, interesting. Depending on how you arrange the 1s and 0s, you get:
      111110 = 62
      111101 = 61
      111011 = 59
      110111 = 55
      101111 = 47
      Damn! I was hoping we'd find 42.

    • @bekacynthia
      @bekacynthia 5 років тому +1

      Clive Byrne LOL 👏👏🤣🤣

    • @thiruvalluvar3880
      @thiruvalluvar3880 5 років тому +3

      @@tastyloaf5487 101010 =42

    • @dabla6768
      @dabla6768 5 років тому +1

      😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @Phoenix0F8
    @Phoenix0F8 4 роки тому +597

    This perfectly articulates the rage that's been boiling up from inside me for the past three years. My dad is a pastor in one of the few christian sects that actually believes the whole bible verbatim, my whole family still professes christianity, but I just can't do it anymore. The entire system is a fucking nightmare.
    It makes me so angry that otherwise rational and sane people choose to believe in such a nonsensical system and actually praise the god of that system as some sort of merciful and just being when, if he existed, his maturity wouldn't be very far beyond that of a human toddler.

    • @deesalmon9632
      @deesalmon9632 4 роки тому +20

      No hun, you have to just let them be. Dont let them detract from the happiness you can have with this new freedom. Let them know where you stand,.tell them its non-negotiable and go be happy. Dont allow anyone to steal your joy.
      It's been about 10 yrs for me....it will get better

    • @brijo1327
      @brijo1327 4 роки тому +5

      @@deesalmon9632 love that idea! It may only be temporary but at least it's fun 😂

    • @alukuhito
      @alukuhito 4 роки тому +18

      If they believe in the Bible in a literal sense, then how do they deal with the contradictions? I bet there are lots of verses you could have them questioning themselves with.

    • @christinafidance340
      @christinafidance340 3 роки тому +13

      I feel the exact same way. My husband is a complete Bible-Thumper and he likes to get this: get drunk every night and start arguments with me that usually begin with “The Bible says...” and ends with me either taking a walk or popping in a pair of headphones until he finally passes out! It’s utterly RIDICULOUS! Great man otherwise.... takes great care of me and our home, is adventurous and a lot of fun.... I think the whole Bible thing is just because he knows it presses my buttons, but I hardly think that any of his fellow Christians think it’s appropriate to get sh!tfaced and then use the Bible as a way to start senseless arguments! UGH!!! God, help me!!! Lol

    • @elihenley6982
      @elihenley6982 3 роки тому +11

      @@alukuhito contradictions in the Bible don’t make them confused. The average atheist is far more literate in actual biblical knowledge than the average Christian. These people go into church on Sunday/flip on their Bible study on their tv or phone and listen to a preacher/worship leader give them anecdotes of christians, cute little Bible stories, and inspirational lectures. They never flip through a Bible long enough or with enough attentiveness to actually 1.) find out about the contradictions and mandated killings in the Bible and 2.) even if they found it, their explanation of why it’s in there and what it means is skewed by church leaders. “It’s out of context” or “it was a different time with different objective morality” no matter if they have scriptural or real world evidence or not.

  • @mastermo141
    @mastermo141 9 років тому +272

    I *fucking* love this channel.

    • @mikemudimba5531
      @mikemudimba5531 7 років тому +4

      Me too. The voices are amazing

    • @anthonymercadante8170
      @anthonymercadante8170 6 років тому

      Try to look at it this way, there is I AM...and to mock the Almighty condemns those who created this bullshit to HELL....science dictates that Man can now create a one celled organism therefore if you extrapolate that into all that is, coupled with the fact that there is a Golden ratio...ua-cam.com/video/4VrcO6JaMrM/v-deo.html which, if you look at the fact that there is math involved anyone can clearly come to the healthy conclusion that there is Intelligent Design...AKA GOD, YAHWEH, CHRIST.....MERRY CHRISTMAS.....I HOPE I PAST THE TEST LORD.....if there is anything else I can do to prove to these people that you do in fact exist help me type it ...I am your instrument ......YEAH, HERE'S ONE FOR YOU.....BLESSED ARE THOSE WHO DON'T SEE AND YET BELIEVE,....THERE IS ALSO FRACTALS IN NATURE,....THEY DIDN'T JUST COME UP OUT OF THE PRIMEVAL SWAMP AND DECIDE TO CONFORM TO SCIENCE AND MATHEMATICAL EQUATIONS...WTF!!!

    • @anonymouse4793
      @anonymouse4793 6 років тому

      +Anthony Mercadante
      Only if you are childhood brainwashed with fear to believe in bullshit in the first place.
      Your religious brainwashing has made you a gullible moron.

    • @ryangainey94
      @ryangainey94 6 років тому +1

      +Anthony Mercadante Look, I don't think anyone argues that there are truly amazing things in the universe. The laws of physics and mathematics that from the basics work without fail, logic and life, and much of the natural construction and of the beauty of much of the world. These are truly marvelous things -- the existence of life itself here is like a miracle.
      But! For all that there are perfect and well-ordered things that exist beyond human knowledge and comprehension in the natural world, we also know of the far greater number of imperfections.
      The male reproductive system is designed to enable a single male to impregnate hundreds of thousands if not millions of women a day, yet it is sinful to waste seed, have sex before marriage, or for a man to have sex with anyone other than his wife. Yet this is all by some intelligent design. All right.
      What about the natural tendency towards entropy? You can clean your house and it will get dirty again without you even trying to dirty it again. An untended garden or abandoned house will continue to be reclaimed by the wild nature from which it came. And evolution favors the positive mutations that enable reproductions of a species, this is known -- but what is often overlooked is that a great many malignant mutations occur as well that will doom the creatures at hand. The chance that a man falls into a radioactive toxic waste vat and emerges with any super-abilities is a statistically much lower chance than winning the lottery, by several magnitudes. Evolution doesn't appear to be intelligently guided at all -- it's purely based on luck. And what about quantum physics and mathematics? Some equations that haven't been disproven seem to insinuate that a particle can physically be in more than one place at once, a concept which in itself makes almost no sense at all. And the realm of quantum physics spreads far greater than the knowledge we have of all of our accumulated science and math.
      For every thing you can find that seems truly amazing as a sign of some greater divine law and order, you find so much more with natures that are inherently chaotic! But Christians ignore the chaotic part. They want to cherry-pick and defend their religion by pointing to all of the good things that happen, while dismissing the obviously more morally reprehensible sections of their Bible. But they have to realize that if their creator God truly is responsible for the creation of everything and is omnipotent and omniscient and whichever else, that that God is just as responsible for the bad things that happen as the good! Yeah, yeah, sure, there's the Devil... But God created the Devil and he didn't have to do that... He didn't have to put evil around... But that's not a rabbit hole I feel like going down today.
      When a plane crashes with 200 people in it and 199 of them die and 1 baby survives, Christians will say hallelujah and praise their God to be responsible for saving the miracle child that lives through the crash. Does it occur to no one that God could have prevented the whole crash in the first place? And that if he chose not to, and deliberately killed off 199 people, that constitutes a tragedy and an act of violence? Why would a loving God command the vast majority of things he's stated to command?
      People are really just thanking the tyrant they fear for sparing someone from his wrath rather than just killing everyone. And as a reward for believing in God and doing as God commands, you get to go to a place where you can keep serving God in this capacity forever. Because it's supposed to be an honor. You're rewarded for your worship by getting to worship and do more work once you're dead, or you're punished with a lake of fire. An intelligent designer apparently made something this convoluted and unfair sounding because he loves us... uh huh...
      Anyways. My point is that there are many things you can point to that are NOT intelligently designed at all as well wherever you go. If there is in fact a God that created everything, he is just as responsible for the shitty designs as he is for the brilliant ones. And why would he have shitty designs in the first place if he's omniscient? You can easily arrive at all sorts of paradoxes with God in this manner.

    • @D-Reality
      @D-Reality Місяць тому

      +1!!!

  • @MarkoFelix
    @MarkoFelix 10 років тому +986

    dude everyone in my world thinks im crazy and evil for being an atheist :/

    • @sonicsuns
      @sonicsuns 10 років тому +98

      *hugs* =(

    • @PatrickGreeneFearwriter
      @PatrickGreeneFearwriter 10 років тому +85

      Not me bro. Stay strong.

    • @myollinir
      @myollinir 9 років тому +51

      ROY Markovik just being an atheist means you don't believe ONE thing
      it's what else that you value that makes you crazy or not, but not believing definitely gives you one less crazy point, we are here with you. i'm in the same boat and surrounded by christian family friends and others

    • @hawkeye2958
      @hawkeye2958 8 років тому +3

      I think you're creating enemies in your mind that don't exist

    • @Jonqen
      @Jonqen 7 років тому +23

      Come to sweden

  • @NonStampCollector
    @NonStampCollector  12 років тому +156

    If a disembodied entity appeared before me and said "I'm a teapot! I'm a teapot! I'm a teapot!" I'd go and get my head read. A check-up from the neck up.
    If anyone meets a god, and it tells them personally the theology of Christianity, then I'd recommend they do the same. It's about the most insane idea around.

    • @MarcusCollins69
      @MarcusCollins69 Рік тому +5

      even then, so what? It doesn't deserve mine or anyone's worship if it were real.

    • @noone3216
      @noone3216 Місяць тому +2

      I forget who said it, but: "if you talk to god, that's fine. If god talks back, seek mental help".

  • @benbenben123ben
    @benbenben123ben 11 місяців тому +96

    I’m so thankful that God gave us all the opportunity to go to hell, and we don’t even have to do anything. We were just born with that gift!

    • @NonStampCollector
      @NonStampCollector  11 місяців тому +50

      It's grace.
      We're all so shit that we don't even deserve hell. Yet we receive it freely. I'm so grateful that God wouldn't send me somewhere worse. I think I'll become a worshipful believer.

    • @Bojan12
      @Bojan12 8 місяців тому +2

      None goes to Hell for other sins but their own however other sins will have impact on you

    • @benbenben123ben
      @benbenben123ben 8 місяців тому +4

      @@Bojan12 Sounds really fair. Truly, a superb way of running things from an all knowing being. Lol Some person definitely didn’t just make all this up!

    • @Bojan12
      @Bojan12 8 місяців тому +1

      @@benbenben123ben Nobody made it up. That is just how things works and if you have observed life you would see it

    • @benbenben123ben
      @benbenben123ben 8 місяців тому +2

      @@Bojan12 bruh, I just wouldn’t be going around calling it “sin” like a Bible thumper.
      It just is what it is. Humans being humans. We have natural drives that can make us do some perceived antisocial stuff, but they are also responsible for the perceived good things.
      Also, more on point of your original comment. It would not be fair to have someone else’s sin affect a person in such a way that they themselves sin and make themselves go to hell. Not a perfect system. It’s just bad design. But hey, thank god that he sent himself be a sacrifice to himself to appease his own anger towards us. Lol What “just” god would accept a sacrifice of somebody who allegedly was pure. Also, what is the freaking point of all of it? It’s pointless. Life makes more sense when evolution is the lens you use to view the world.
      So yes, religion is just people making stuff up.

  • @charlestownsend9280
    @charlestownsend9280 10 місяців тому +153

    "Haven't you read my book?"
    Most people in history: "I can't read."

    • @charlestownsend9280
      @charlestownsend9280 3 місяці тому +4

      @Talk-jn7xo that's true according to modern Christian theology but the Bible never makes any clause for those who don't believe and have never heard or babies and children, just the blanket statement that the only way to avoid hell is believing in Jesus. The idea that those who never heard about the right god automatically get a free pass is one of the many things Christianity has added to what they claim is the perfect word of god, because it's the 9nly way the system isn't completely immoral and ridiculous, although it does kind of make the concept of evangelism and spreading the religion completely self defeating, and also jesus in general.

    • @charlestownsend9280
      @charlestownsend9280 3 місяці тому +1

      @Talk-jn7xo context shows that he is specifically speaking to the pharisees, not everyone in general. But even if he wasn't that would then contradict the bible when it says that the only way the heaven is through Jesus, therefore belief in Jesus, as was told to everyone in general, is required.
      Except what I said does make sense. If not knowing means that people can get into heaven then why tell anyone about God? Why spread the message of Jesus? If people don't know then they get in and if they do know but aren't convinced then they go to hell. If it works how you say then the best option would be for Christians to never tell people about Jesus.
      Maybe what I said isn't the thing that doesn't make sense but instead the ridiculous requirement to get into heaven, which isn't based on what people do or why they do it but whether or not they've heard a story and accepted it without evidence that doesn't make any sense.
      Also I'm as scared of ending up in hell as I am of bad afterlifes of every other religion. And if a God does turn out to exist and it is the Christian god and I do meet them and they do ask me why (even though they're all knowing so they don't need to ask anything, although that also ruins free will) then I'll say that I didn't believe in them for the same reason I don't believe in any other God or ghosts or magic or psychics or that crystals can heal or alien abductions or that the earth is flat and if God wanted me to believe and is all knowing and all powerful then they could have easily convinced me and I would have believed, so the fault there is with him, instead God chose to give exactly the same evidence as every other religion in history.

    • @charlestownsend9280
      @charlestownsend9280 3 місяці тому +1

      @Talk-jn7xo right, so if you take the view that those who don't know about god still go to heaven (despite the few verses not really proving that and being contradicted by the whole point of Jesus being so that people can go to heaven through him and the bible saying that the 0nly way to heaven is through him) then the church and Christians telling people about god and Jesus and giving everyone bibles and knocking on their doors and yelling on the streets and trying to get their religion taught in schools alongside established facts, etc is making people go to hell and if they didn't do that then more people would end up in heaven. So on your argument it would be better if Christianity disappeared because then no one would go to hell for not blindly believing a crazy unproven story from a book of myths and fairytales that constantly gets history and science wrong. That is the logical conclusion to your argument.
      Although if you're argument is correct I'm now baffled by the point of Jesus if people can just already go to heaven. What is the point of telling someone like me about Jesus? Apparently I was already going to heaven but now cause I've been told about Jesus and just won't believe any crazy story someone tells me, like ghosts, alien abductions, flat earth, anti vax, crystal healing, or what any other religion claims from their book of myths and fairytales, I'm now doomed to be tortured forever by an all loving god. It barely made any sense beforehand (god having to kill himself to stop himself from torturing people forever because of the rules he made knowing that they wouldn't be able to follow them but it 9nly works if they believe it), now the entire religion makes even less sense and has damned more people to hell than it has saved.

    • @charlestownsend9280
      @charlestownsend9280 3 місяці тому

      @Talk-jn7xo did i trigger you by pointing out that your argument makes the entire religion self defeating? Cause your response doesn't address my point.
      So an all knowing and all powerful god can't convince everyone that they exist? Not a very impressive god, sounds more like one that doesn't exist or seems less capable than a regular person.
      Most people who don't believe in god would probably believe if god just appeared and said hi I exist, yet instead god decides to play the longest game of hid3 and seek while getting annoyed at people not believing in them, like some kind of stalker.
      Or is it a no free will thing (which can't exist if god is all knowing), do the people who god knows won't believe have any choice in the matter? How does god determine that they wouldn't believe? And how do you know that is how god does things? If it's not a choice then that doesn't make god look good.
      If god provided the evidence I'd happily believe, just like how I'd believe in ghosts or big foot if any evidence was provided of their existence. But there's also a difference between believing and worshipping or following them. But if god does exist and wants me to know that they exist then my lack of belief is entirely their fault, just luke how it's not the person you like at work fault for not liking you back if you never speak to them or let them know that you exist.

    • @prophecybydefault4708
      @prophecybydefault4708 3 місяці тому +1

      ​@Talk-jn7xo You haven't even addressed anything he's said let alone debunked anything.
      He asked you if people who haven't heard of the bible still go to heaven and if the answer is yes, why spread the gospel if it actively reduces the chances of people getting into heaven?
      Isn't that contradictory and paradoxical?

  • @kurackurackurac
    @kurackurackurac 7 років тому +487

    This is one of the most direct, lucid and correct summoning up of all the inconsistencies and insanities of the Christian theology. Bravo!

    • @davidhatcher7016
      @davidhatcher7016 6 років тому

      Titus yep

    • @davidhatcher7016
      @davidhatcher7016 6 років тому +1

      Cameron Fletcher I know what you mean!

    • @raspiankiado4658
      @raspiankiado4658 5 років тому +13

      That's the Muslim theology as well, and the Jewish one. Basically if you can find an equivalent to a church (place of worship), a bible (texts written by "god" or god like figure), and a priest (the one benefitting from the power they have) they're all as bad as each other.

    • @jahrasta4907
      @jahrasta4907 5 років тому

      Thank you for this clarity.

    • @TheTeufelhunden68
      @TheTeufelhunden68 5 років тому

      @OptimalOptimus50 Read them. There is ALWAYS a sacrifice.

  • @calokid
    @calokid 12 років тому +122

    "You can't just choose to believe something." Why don't more people get that? If I am not supposed to lie, I shouldn't lie to myself about what I can't believe.

  • @nukemaster1
    @nukemaster1 11 років тому +264

    I think it's impossible to watch all NonStampCollector videos and still believe in this stuff :)

    • @petermichael8921
      @petermichael8921 6 років тому +4

      Konrad G I enjoy the ones I've watched. Challenge can also confirm a position.

    • @Butzemann123
      @Butzemann123 6 років тому +34

      It depends on social environment, raising, education, mental state.
      If a thought is planted so deep in your mind, your brain will lie to yourself, to keep that true.
      The brain can drive us to the most irrational behaviour, when we are too convinced of a thought.
      Even the most intelligent among us can fall for this, sadly.

    • @davidhatcher7016
      @davidhatcher7016 6 років тому

      Konrad G yes

    • @RonLarhz
      @RonLarhz 4 роки тому +1

      Sheeple wont exist if speaking logic works for them.

    • @martinmaxwell3508
      @martinmaxwell3508 4 роки тому +2

      Impossible? Bruh i used to watch such a video like this before from this channel,darkmatter25, etc. Im almost become an atheist, but im not anymore, you got to watch cross examined vid, he was likely answered all question this channel asked to theist.

  • @vincentclark5739
    @vincentclark5739 Рік тому +72

    This video came out just 3 years after the beginning of UA-cam. True history here and thank you for making this content for us to see a decade and a half later! I rewatch these a few times a year and they never get old

    • @NonStampCollector
      @NonStampCollector  Рік тому +50

      When I made this I never imagined there would be a second video.

    • @giuseppeagresta1425
      @giuseppeagresta1425 10 місяців тому +19

      ​@@NonStampCollectoryou're an actual legend for still replying to this day
      Your videos are awesome, I've been watching them lately

    • @kelly-bo-belly
      @kelly-bo-belly 10 місяців тому

      @@giuseppeagresta1425that’s what I was thinking. 👍

    • @1eel99
      @1eel99 10 місяців тому +6

      to think this vid was made before i was born…..

    • @carrit8501
      @carrit8501 10 місяців тому +5

      @@1eel99damn thats wild

  • @GauravSharma04
    @GauravSharma04 10 років тому +438

    God designed the universe when he was depressed... and that is why he asked everyone to praise him, just to feel better.. :D

    • @anthonymercadante8170
      @anthonymercadante8170 6 років тому +1

      Try to look at it this way, there is I AM...and to mock the Almighty condemns those who created this bullshit to HELL....science dictates that Man can now create a one celled organism therefore if you extrapolate that into all that is, coupled with the fact that there is a Golden ratio...ua-cam.com/video/4VrcO6JaMrM/v-deo.html which, if you look at the fact that there is math involved anyone can clearly come to the healthy conclusion that there is Intelligent Design...AKA GOD, YAHWEH, CHRIST.....MERRY CHRISTMAS.....I HOPE I PAST THE TEST LORD.....if there is anything else I can do to prove to these people that you do in fact exist help me type it ...I am your instrument ......YEAH, HERE'S ONE FOR YOU.....BLESSED ARE THOSE WHO DON'T SEE AND YET BELIEVE,....THERE IS ALSO FRACTALS IN NATURE,....THEY DIDN'T JUST COME UP OUT OF THE PRIMEVAL SWAMP AND DECIDE TO CONFORM TO SCIENCE AND MATHEMATICAL EQUATIONS...WTF!!!

    • @lopolik
      @lopolik 6 років тому +9

      Yahweh is not the real god get a grip.

    • @BurningApple
      @BurningApple 6 років тому +8

      Tony. What you've posted here holds no water at all. But let's give you the benefit of the doubt and say that there is undeniable proof of ID? What proves it to be Yahweh? Why not Zeus? Vishnu? Allah? What makes the bible true over say greek legend? The Quran?

    • @lopolik
      @lopolik 6 років тому +7

      There is a big possibility that Allah and Yahweh is the same guy, I mean Quran has so many similarities with the bible, that is not so hard to assume Yahweh and Allah are the same.. And the Christ is really not the same guy as Yahweh that is bullshit, no word indicates in the original languages even Yahweh is not mentioned in the New Testament.. Although the Jesus story is probably made up and also note that the bible doesn't really say Yahweh is the supposed creator of the Universe, it was Elohim if you look to hebrew, Elohim meaning GOD (s) Yahweh is always translated as ''the LORD'' not as God.. so..

    • @davidhatcher7016
      @davidhatcher7016 6 років тому +1

      Gaurav Sharma LOL

  • @DrSpooglemon
    @DrSpooglemon 13 років тому +29

    Isn't it fairly common for abusers to say "I'm doing this because I love you"?

    • @allison4882
      @allison4882 4 роки тому +10

      another thing they say is "you made me do it"

    • @lastyhopper2792
      @lastyhopper2792 14 днів тому

      But Jesus is still the best abuser of all abusers on Earth that have ever existed and will exist!

  • @691bm3
    @691bm3 8 років тому +86

    the ad that came up before your video was of this christian movie, "The Messiah". interesting isn't it. maybe its a sign😱 a sign from the magical ghost man in the clouds. i'm S H O O K !!!

    • @NonStampCollector
      @NonStampCollector  8 років тому +43

      Well, take comfort in knowing that by advertising before my video they lost 0.0000000000000001 cents. That'll teach them.

    • @NonStampCollector
      @NonStampCollector  8 років тому +20

      ***** Well, it's nice of you to say so. However, I'm afraid I'd underwhelm. I'd strongly suggest being satisfied upon merely being whelmed, if it ever happens.

    • @nickrondinelli1402
      @nickrondinelli1402 7 років тому +1

      NonStampCollector I made a comment on your theist challenege, but I don't think you will be notified of it so I am telling you here, sorry.

    • @sundayoliver3147
      @sundayoliver3147 Рік тому

      I kind of like the idea of this video somehow electronically leaking into that ad...

  • @lukecavill2556
    @lukecavill2556 5 років тому +48

    I was raised as a fundamentalist Christian. This really made me laugh. Well done guys.

    • @GJikok
      @GJikok 9 місяців тому +2

      Wait like in a haha they are stupid or in a haha the comedy is really good kind of way

    • @D-Reality
      @D-Reality Місяць тому

      🤘🏼😈🤘🏼

  • @NonStampCollector
    @NonStampCollector  12 років тому +20

    @LogiPlush What Adam and Eve did was make it inevitable that no matter what I did, no matter how good my intentions, I was destined for hell. "Sin entered the world through one man,..." "All have sinned and fall short of the glory of god,...."
    So according to scripture, if not for A & E, with my own free will completely in tact, I might have stood a chance. I might have resisted the temptation of the talking snake.
    Thus, my point stands.

    • @MissEasyPeasySleasy
      @MissEasyPeasySleasy 4 роки тому

      Nefaryus Drake no.

    • @nho2x113
      @nho2x113 3 роки тому +1

      Hello, I am a muslim, I just want to know what is your point of view on islam.

    • @lastyhopper2792
      @lastyhopper2792 14 днів тому

      Don't even try to touch Muslims. They'd do death threat if you do the most despicable, unforgivable sin of all: draw a face for Muhammad or Allah.
      Criticize Christianity and Christians respond with love at best, or disdain at worst. Criticize Islam and Muslims retaliate with hate at best and violance at worst.

  • @LucasChoate
    @LucasChoate 9 років тому +94

    As always, your animation skills are like none other! A beautiful piece indeed. Keep up the great work.

  • @thechinadesk
    @thechinadesk 9 років тому +84

    Pretty good. Shows that religion is even more patently absurd than usually imagined!

    • @alukuhito
      @alukuhito 4 роки тому +3

      At least mainstream Christianity anyway.

  • @GReid-ol5gk
    @GReid-ol5gk 8 років тому +144

    I actually prefer this style of animation. Simple, concise, yet gets the point across succinctly. 10/10

    • @davidhatcher7016
      @davidhatcher7016 6 років тому

      G. Reid meh

    • @oscarthemoon
      @oscarthemoon 5 років тому +10

      This is a late reply, and you don’t care but whatever. I feel like it gives more of a raw feeling, the fact that this strangely drawn ms paint thing is presenting such truth

    • @lloydlineske2642
      @lloydlineske2642 Рік тому

      @@oscarthemoon How do you know that person doesn't care? Also this is an even later reply. 😛

  • @amberjewell3894
    @amberjewell3894 Рік тому +28

    I had to deconstruct my whole life in order to escape an abusive, cultish family, but I thought my faith would continue on untouched. An unexpected side-effect was that I was no longer able to passively accept what I'd always been taught. Once I turned the same analysis and reason on the church, the bible, and faith in general, it too fell apart at the seams.

    • @arthurjeremypearson
      @arthurjeremypearson 10 місяців тому

      And if you'd been born longer time ago when everyone was christian, you would probably wind up going to church anyways somewhere else and getting it reinforced. Today we have the luxury of being able to not have to go to church all the time.
      The problem is, now these people are basically abandoned and natural selection will reinforce the tendency to shut down logical thinking. And I'll just be more and more and more of them and they'll vote.
      I don't have a solution. Sorry

  • @ProphetofZod
    @ProphetofZod 8 років тому +79

    Wow! Whenever I feel like I have good ideas to share, I just go back and watch an old NSC video, and it puts me right in my place. You're the absolute boss of UA-cam!

  • @kafirkhan4704
    @kafirkhan4704 9 років тому +147

    I feel sad that so many believe in religion/god. Feel specially sad for my family.

    • @Atheist2022
      @Atheist2022 8 років тому +13

      Me TOO :(

    • @davidhatcher7016
      @davidhatcher7016 6 років тому +9

      Ex-Muslim Atheist same

    • @Incursio214
      @Incursio214 6 років тому +5

      Same most of my family do but I can easily explain and convince them to be atheist but my Spanish vocabulary isn’t good enough and they don’t understand complex English whatsoever :(

    • @davidhatcher7016
      @davidhatcher7016 6 років тому

      @@Incursio214 oh ok lol

    • @whoevencaresbrawecb1139
      @whoevencaresbrawecb1139 5 років тому +1

      Hey internet people I have been avoiding talking about religion with my fam my mom knows I am an atheist but should I try to explain why religion is dumb or just let them think I am the idiot “cherrypicker “ I don’t want to interfere with their hope of heaven because it makes them feel better

  • @juba9575
    @juba9575 3 роки тому +31

    Whosoever is behind this chanel, I LOVE YOU sooo much for promoting logic and common sense.

  • @TomorrowisYesterday
    @TomorrowisYesterday 5 років тому +54

    Why didn't someone show this to me 11 years ago?

    • @nuclearnadal3116
      @nuclearnadal3116 3 роки тому +8

      Yeah I put two and two together when I was 6 but it was with the quran which is way more ridiculous

    • @chinggiskhan6678
      @chinggiskhan6678 3 роки тому +3

      @@nuclearnadal3116 Now now, the Quran is actually just as ridiculous. The Bible has such confusing Instances as:
      - No one can see Yahweh, but also prophets have seen Yahweh, such as Abraham.
      - Yahweh killed all sin in a great flood, then sacrificed himself to himself to kill all sin again after the great flood
      - Yahweh kicked out Adam and Eve for eating the apple of the knowledge of what is good and evil because it was "wrong", even though Adam and Eve didn't know what was right and wrong until they are the apple.

    • @loveableheathen7441
      @loveableheathen7441 3 роки тому +3

      @@chinggiskhan6678 I love that last bit about Adam and eve. Imagine setting out a banquet of food for your children, only there is a juice box full of poison. "Don't drink the juice!" You say as you walk away and close the door behind you. Excellent parenting 😂

  • @DaTwizler
    @DaTwizler 9 років тому +112

    The fact of the matter is this: Most people don't have a choice in what they will believe in. Most people grow up in churches and into certain religions. They develop the same belief system as their parents due to not being able to make that choice for themselves. Because this belief system poisons their minds, their critical thinking, logic, and rationalism suffer as a result of blind faith. Then once they are challenged on their faith, they use the same answers and word play that they were taught to use by people who believe the same thing. Most religious people don't even pick their book up to read it. And when they do, they only read the "good" parts and not the bad parts. They read the same chapters and verses over and over again instead of the ones that actually expose theit religion. Sin according to their bible and their own logic is disobedience to this deity yahweh right? It's a choice that's neither right nor wrong. Yes we all have consequences to our actions, but just because something has a bad consequesnce doesn't mean that the action is wrong. The consequence for being in the army is that you can die. That's a bad consequence for a choice that is neither right nor wrong. If I tell my kid not to jump out into the street when a car comes by, I'm going to make sure he doesn't do it because he will die right in front of me and that will make me responsible. Not him. So if i save him, i can't punish him because he didn't listen. If i tell my kid that he has a choice of whether or not he wants to eat his veggies, and i give good and bad consequences to a neutral choice, then that negates the point of giving a free choice. You can't give good or bad consequences to a neutral choice. "Worship me and go to heaven. Don't worship me and go to hell." "Believe in me and go to heaven. Don't believe in me and go to hell". So basically what religious people argue is that it is morally wrong to not believe in something and give it worship. That's according to their own logic. So basically they admit that they see non belief as morally wrong, thus making the bad consequences that come with it just and reasonable. But how do you believe that something is morally wrong when it doesn't cause chaos? It's not a violent decision that is detrimental in any way, shape, or form. And people who believe in a "god" as the only one true "god", then they are mentally delusional and need mental evaluations.

    • @screengames5307
      @screengames5307 7 років тому +7

      Smart words by a smart man

    • @joeyjoe3235
      @joeyjoe3235 7 років тому +11

      I was born into a Muslim family and don't believe in it so I've been ridiculed by my family

    • @HypercatZ
      @HypercatZ 6 років тому +3

      ...but appreciated by the rest of the world.

    • @stevenmills6502
      @stevenmills6502 5 років тому +1

      I believe that
      A dog is a man's best friend.

    • @lastyhopper2792
      @lastyhopper2792 14 днів тому

      Heh, reminded me of a lot of utterly bad analogies Christians would say.

  • @Blunttalker
    @Blunttalker 3 роки тому +27

    Imagine being an atheist in Nigeria. Of course I'm never coming out. But it's a life in the closet and it's not so cool.

    • @elihenley6982
      @elihenley6982 3 роки тому +3

      I think if theists and atheists alike knew of the internal struggle for you they’d probably see all of this in another light.

    • @sundayoliver3147
      @sundayoliver3147 Рік тому +4

      It must be extremely hard.I hope you have beautiful and loving things in your life also.

    • @IisLasagna
      @IisLasagna Місяць тому +1

      I feel you, Indonesia doesn't recognise Atheism or Agnosticism and although I've come out about it to most of the people I know, I still feel very strongly about how it will never be recognised, even my mother acts like it's just a phase.

    • @Blunttalker
      @Blunttalker Місяць тому

      @@elihenley6982 I’m trying to do that by writing now. Hope it works

    • @Blunttalker
      @Blunttalker Місяць тому

      @@sundayoliver3147 I try.

  • @hammerofscience534
    @hammerofscience534 10 років тому +130

    This should be the first video kids see before Sunday indoctrination, em I mean school starts! Set aside all arguments about science, evolution, etc. Simple common sense can prove to anyone with an open mind that gods are man made. But unfortunately most people of faith seem to have shut down this part of their brains.

    • @stevenunua2118
      @stevenunua2118 10 років тому +6

      Belief closes he mind to intellect and discernment.

    • @Drew15000
      @Drew15000 6 років тому +1

      You believe that steve?

    • @jahrasta4907
      @jahrasta4907 5 років тому +3

      It's a hell of a hallucination.... let's give them credit for that at least. Just do regular drugs instead, that way you can go back to reality the next day.

    • @stevenmills6502
      @stevenmills6502 5 років тому

      Blame hate.

  • @thetooginator153
    @thetooginator153 8 років тому +39

    NonStampCollector is the best at pointing out the absurdities of religion in the best way possible: humor! If someone or something is funny simply by telling the truth, that is the best way to illustrate the flaws. The idea of sacrificing oneself TO oneself to atone for a "crime" supposedly committed by a person's ancestors is completely bonkers! I ESPECIALLY like it how NonStampCollector points out how impossible it is to believe something based on no evidence whatsoever. I couldn't believe in God if I tried! So, the idea is that I end up in Hell because I COULDN'T force myself to believe in Zeus... I mean God? Charming.

    • @NilanMihindukulasooriya
      @NilanMihindukulasooriya 7 років тому

      TheTooginator love this guy tooo

    • @liam6033
      @liam6033 3 роки тому

      Except it wasn't for 'one's appeasement but for the redemption from the sin of one's creation. Plus, the crime that's committed by the ancestors isn't the crime you're judged on bc everyone has sinned. We also gave up on giving evidence when skeptics couldn't accept a reality in which God existed and dismissed everything. Also, you're mixing up paganism with monotheism, Zeus is presented as fiction and has a specific purpose and God isn't fitted to one specific purpose i.e he's not exclusively the God of the sky.

  • @rolirolster
    @rolirolster 7 років тому +49

    Reasoning, logic, balanced inquiry are all good, but they won't prevent you from going to hell. Lolz for that killer line :-D

  • @furiousstyles9066
    @furiousstyles9066 6 років тому +55

    This stuff is hilarious!!!
    RELIGION MAKES ABSOLUTELY NO SENSE AT ALL!!!

    • @travisjazzbo3490
      @travisjazzbo3490 3 роки тому +1

      Watch all of Non Stamp Collector videos... incredible work and TOP NOTCH graphics

    • @mism847
      @mism847 3 роки тому +2

      @@travisjazzbo3490 Will do!

  • @CultOfDusty
    @CultOfDusty 15 років тому +16

    I thought this was pure genius. You said so many things I was planning to say in my videos that now I can just point people to your video instead.

  • @jlinus7251
    @jlinus7251 4 роки тому +13

    I never understood this. God supposedly created us with free will, but then he looms eternal torture over everyone like that somehow gives us a choice. And say if God is real and all us atheists do go to hell, it was because of ignorance not because we were malevolent against him. At least if he came down and made it a 100 percent clear that he was real, then we would be at fault for disobeying him... wtf is this logic.

    • @DynastyUK
      @DynastyUK 4 роки тому +3

      Different times 100's of years ago. People were burnt alive for not believing in god. Religion used as a power to start wars and crusades. And these forced traditions have stayed with us to this day. We should all know better in this day and age.

    • @dudsnewt_4686
      @dudsnewt_4686 4 роки тому

      The opposite is forced to not believe. Look up calvinism. It's worth then with free will

    • @enterkramer
      @enterkramer 3 роки тому

      God knew certain people would end up in hell... and created them anyway. It's impossible to be any more evil than that.

  • @harrrisonpressly9005
    @harrrisonpressly9005 7 років тому +39

    If there was one video that could sum up everything wrong with religion, this is it.

    • @davidhatcher7016
      @davidhatcher7016 6 років тому

      Harrrison Pressly maybe

    • @whoevencaresbrawecb1139
      @whoevencaresbrawecb1139 5 років тому

      And imagine this video is only like basic premise not counting contradictions and all that fun stuff person from 2 years ago

    • @helios2664
      @helios2664 4 роки тому

      Darkmatter2525’s video titled “God’s God,” does a pretty good job as well

    • @alukuhito
      @alukuhito 4 роки тому

      At least the majority of people who subscribe to Abrahamic religions. Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater.

  • @timrichardson4018
    @timrichardson4018 10 років тому +45

    Yep. Why was a human sacrifice necessary? Why could an all powerful, all knowing god who had a need to appease his own anger by sacrificing himself to himself not just simply forgive? There is no apparent reason why he couldn't or wouldn't. Yes, there are many convoluted theological attempts to demonstrate a good reason why Jesus had to die, but they seem very much like grasping at straws and special pleading.

    • @enterkramer
      @enterkramer 3 роки тому +1

      and yet we're demanded to forgive the worst trespasses possible based on our the condition of our own hearts. No blood involved.

    • @liam6033
      @liam6033 3 роки тому

      That'd if you misconstrued his sacrifice on the cross as what you have just laid it out to be. It proves him putting himself at the line and putting his creation before himself.

    • @MsJavaWolf
      @MsJavaWolf Місяць тому

      @@enterkramer Christianity is full of those double standards. We are also instructed by Jesus to feed the hungry, but when atheists bring up how many natural disasters result in the starvation of countless people, Christians don't see anything wrong with God allowing that, even though he could fix the problem in less than a second.

  • @mojobag01
    @mojobag01 10 років тому +32

    For most of the duration of the universe, the molecules currently in my body will be, and will have been, swirling around in space. I rather like that.

    • @adenw.4430
      @adenw.4430 3 роки тому +1

      They already are. You 95% of the molecules you had a year ago are gone.

    • @PBAmygdala2021
      @PBAmygdala2021 3 роки тому +2

      Plot twist: 100% of the molecules you currently have ARE swirling around in space, right now!

    • @mojobag01
      @mojobag01 3 роки тому +1

      @@PBAmygdala2021 Good point well made. I should have said deep space.

    • @timbaker4253
      @timbaker4253 3 роки тому

      There is no outer space. The firmament is a hard covering.

    • @mojobag01
      @mojobag01 3 роки тому +1

      @@timbaker4253 Aw bless!

  • @millevenon5853
    @millevenon5853 4 роки тому +49

    He sacrificed himself to himself 😭😭😭😂😂

    • @gotsukcy
      @gotsukcy 3 роки тому +4

      @@Solleile According to...you?

    • @bostongalden1171
      @bostongalden1171 3 роки тому +1

      @@Solleile no bub. YOU misunderstood the bible.

    • @hueyfreeman6262
      @hueyfreeman6262 3 роки тому

      @@bostongalden1171 according to you

  • @timrichardson4018
    @timrichardson4018 10 років тому +46

    Who ever wrote that god doesn't send people to hell, they chose to go there has not read their bible very closely. In most every scripture in the New Testament that talks about people going to hell, it is explicit that god sends them. Matt. 10:28 makes it clear that god casts people in. Read Jesus' parables about weeping and gnashing of teeth in the outer darkness. In these parables, god judges people and has his servants cast people into this outer darkness. Read Revelation about the final judgment, people are cast into the lake of fire, not jumping in. Nice job trying to get your god off the hook, but your bible disagrees with you.

    • @chasetharington6630
      @chasetharington6630 10 років тому +1

      Its not there sin that we get punished for its ours. "for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God" here is a example of why God cant just forgive everyone. If me and you were involved in a court case where a school shooter comes in our children's class room and kills them. All of its on video and the person who committed the crime has admitted and at the sentencing the judge just says, well, free to go have a nice day! What! We would be outraged and thus have a real reason to hate that judge. But if the Perfect judge of all the universe doesn't he's a monster. That's why Jesus had to die. he took our punishment on himself and it was okay for God to acquit him after he took our punishment, because he was innocent and still allowing his judgement to be Perfect

    • @timrichardson4018
      @timrichardson4018 9 років тому +19

      chase tharington Yes, we would be outraged at a criminal like that being let go with no justice, yet that is exactly what Christianity offers. Even the worst child rapist and murder can merely repent (sincerely intend never to do it again) and believe the right things about Jesus, and he faces no punishment for his crime. It is outrageous. On the flip side, another person who's worst offense in his life was stealing a package of bubble gum, even though he felt remorse, will burn in hell for all eternity because he never believed the right things about Jesus. This is not justice my friend. Any system that rewards and punishes not based on actions but on belief is definitively unjust.

    • @timrichardson4018
      @timrichardson4018 9 років тому +13

      chase tharington Also, justice is fitting the punishment to the crime. Eternal conscious burning in hell for just ANY sin is not justice. God sends people to hell for all eternity for limited and finite crimes in a comparatively short life. This is the epitome of disproportionate punishment and injustice to the point that it is cruel. If your child "sinned" against you, no matter how bad the offense, you will likely punish him, but you wouldn't build a fire pit and roast him in it forever because he never "repented."

    • @timrichardson4018
      @timrichardson4018 9 років тому +8

      Tim Richardson And any parent who would do so would rightly be viewed as cruel and unloving toward his child

    • @timrichardson4018
      @timrichardson4018 9 років тому +10

      Tim Richardson also, punishing an innocent person, even if that person is the judge, for someone else's crime is not justice either. It is injustice twice! Once for not appropriately sentencing the guilty party, and again for punishing an innocent person. This is called scapegoating, and there is nothing just about it because it removes responsibility from the guilty person and puts in on an innocent. If the goal of justice is rehabilitation and changing people for the better, which it is, then the Christian system is not it. It circumvents justice and allows people to never take ultimate responsibility for their actions. You say we would be outraged at a judge who would let such a guilty person go free. Yes! Yes we would! But Christianity teaches that god does that very thing.

  • @mcflyingfury
    @mcflyingfury 10 місяців тому +15

    Just stumbled upon your channel today. It's amazing how you explain the exact thoughts I've been having for years in such a concise, detailed, and logical way.
    Been a Christian most my life and just recently realized that if God is real, he is the most evil and horrific entity to ever exist, and now that I've made that realization, there's no way I'm ever going to willingly love him. So I guess I don't have to worship him on my knees for eternity anymore lol

    • @NonStampCollector
      @NonStampCollector  10 місяців тому +12

      Yes the channel is going through a big boost today for no reason. The algorithm gods are smiling on me.
      Yep, no point in loving an unpleasant god that doesn't exist.
      I hope this isn't the first of my vids you landed on. It's one of the shittest!

    • @mcflyingfury
      @mcflyingfury 10 місяців тому +5

      @@NonStampCollector After 15 years this absolute chad responds to a comment within an hour. Amazing. And it makes more sense to believe in algorithm gods than all the others haha. This is the second video I've seen of yours, and after watching the first (Quiz Show: Bible Contradictions) I decided to start binging all your videos in order lol.
      The animation obviously isn't as good, but I watch the videos for the intricate and completely logical way you structure your points, and this one isn't bad by any measure.

    • @bryanarevalo7072
      @bryanarevalo7072 10 місяців тому

      @@NonStampCollectorplease come backkkkkkk

    • @amogelangthabangmatlala9139
      @amogelangthabangmatlala9139 9 місяців тому

      @@mcflyingfury wow, you just described everything i did and that i was about to do, crazy, hope you are well on your journey

    • @mcflyingfury
      @mcflyingfury 9 місяців тому

      @@amogelangthabangmatlala9139 I'm doing well, just trying to gather the courage to tell my family about what I've been thinking. It's hard knowing that the majority of my relationships are going to change drastically and for the worse.

  • @thereprehensible435
    @thereprehensible435 3 роки тому +11

    4:26 Yeah, I never understood why God couldn't just forgive people from the start. Or just decide to forgive them, rather than go through that whole Jesus arc... Especially if he knows of the future.

  • @MyChevySonic
    @MyChevySonic 10 років тому +28

    The real beauty of the bible is it's entertaining. Not very useful though.

    • @stevenunua2118
      @stevenunua2118 10 років тому +6

      makes a great door stop or TP if you run out.

    • @CryptoPump610
      @CryptoPump610 9 років тому +3

      pulpbits It's a great study of the mind of a psychopath

    • @stevenunua2118
      @stevenunua2118 9 років тому +2

      ALIEN_LIVES MATTER
      Will make a great text book for future study of the insanity of man.

    • @CryptoPump610
      @CryptoPump610 9 років тому +4

      steve nunua Would say I can't understand how people believe in the bible, but majority of them don't actually know the bible. It wasn't until I started questioning it I begin to really read and study it until I realize it was a book of insane humans in barbaric times.

    • @stevenunua2118
      @stevenunua2118 9 років тому

      ALIEN_LIVES MATTER
      You might like my analogy of belief. sk1951.wordpress.com/2015/08/02/1850/?preview=true&preview_id=1850&preview_nonce=ce733cb83e&post_format=standard

  • @anniesue4456
    @anniesue4456 8 років тому +23

    the perfect book with many lessons on hate intolerance greed lust rape slavery subjugation of females ...... and bad temper trantrums and domestic violence against the people

    • @TJCID22
      @TJCID22 7 років тому +3

      You tell that to a christian and he'll be like "Ah tet tet tet, that was the OLD testament. The new testament doesn't have that". And then you recall that it starts with a guy getting nailed to a cross and spending 3 days in hell and you say "Yeaaaaaaah...right" and then you drop the subject and leave before the madman before you starts getting violent.

    • @liam6033
      @liam6033 3 роки тому

      Lessons against*. Did you really make the claim that it encourages hate, lust and greed while being against it

    • @liam6033
      @liam6033 3 роки тому

      @@TJCID22 It merely described it. Also, you're misconstruing the purposes of wich such things were mentioned.

  • @thedarknessthatcomesbefore4279
    @thedarknessthatcomesbefore4279 4 роки тому +20

    Years old but still priceless. The truth is timeless 👍

  • @howiedick6857
    @howiedick6857 7 років тому +207

    it took me 30 years to figure all these points out by myself, especially the no choice in believing or disbelieving.

    • @davidhatcher7016
      @davidhatcher7016 6 років тому

      Howard Dixon uh huh

    • @MrRedacto
      @MrRedacto 6 років тому +12

      Took me 39, don't feel bad. I didn't even know videos like this existed.

    • @davidhatcher7016
      @davidhatcher7016 6 років тому

      MrRedacto ?

    • @Incursio214
      @Incursio214 6 років тому +5

      Yeah it took me about twelve

    • @jenniegardiner7701
      @jenniegardiner7701 5 років тому +13

      I didn't even know anything about God till I was 12, now at 43, I'm finding out it was all made up?? I wonder how many people developed anxiety and fears after learning about God and his torturous hell?

  • @bn2593
    @bn2593 3 роки тому +19

    This is gold. Thank you for making excellent content😊

  • @henryphilippeaux3566
    @henryphilippeaux3566 3 роки тому +8

    Imagine if I ate an apple from a random man's plot of land, and he cloned himself and then killed that clone instead of calling the cops and having me imprisoned for theft. Then he insisted all of my future progeny worship him every day of their lives, to stave off being imprisoned for that one act of theft which I alone committed.
    And THEN, outside of that, idiots from all over the world would put together the argument I just made, only to respond, "durrr something from nothing herp derp" as if that specifically proves the single religion I just proved to be nonsensical, Christianity, is correct as opposed to mere deism. That's the world we've live in for two millennia. Fuck.

  • @maximuscesar
    @maximuscesar 10 років тому +33

    This video explains everything. Doesn't need anything else to contest christianity.

    • @davidhatcher7016
      @davidhatcher7016 6 років тому +1

      maximuscesar contest

    • @timbaker4253
      @timbaker4253 3 роки тому

      Fake Christianity. This is not what the Bible actually teaches

    • @sundayoliver3147
      @sundayoliver3147 Рік тому

      @@timbaker4253 Read it and weep. It says this and much worse.

  • @vince6252
    @vince6252 11 місяців тому +9

    My 6 year-old daughter tapped on this and listened to it happily.
    Thanks for the very direct, truthful RE class.
    This is much more effective than a PC RE school class.
    We had a chat about it.
    I don't think she's signing up to Christianity.

    • @Rob-fc9wg
      @Rob-fc9wg 9 місяців тому

      Onya mate 👍

  • @aliceslab
    @aliceslab 9 місяців тому +5

    i like how love is constantly trying to make someone miserable, and giving them two bad options as afterlives.
    if we had real freedom we could choose to not be tested, have our own afterlives as alternatives, ect.
    i mean they say free will but sounds like the whole time your under the control of god and condemned before you even realized what happened. born a prisoner who suffers, so freeing yall

    • @Bojan12
      @Bojan12 8 місяців тому

      Only God has completely free will none else

    • @barnabasrsnags4828
      @barnabasrsnags4828 8 місяців тому

      ​@@Bojan12why cant god make a weight he cant lift?

  • @ASBOmarc
    @ASBOmarc 9 місяців тому +5

    Some dude 2000-5000 years ago; ‘I wonder if I write some crazy shit down people in the future will believe it?’ Sadly this God level troll planted a tree they would never know the shade of.

    • @Bojan12
      @Bojan12 8 місяців тому

      He is a Genius

  • @paulhutchins2699
    @paulhutchins2699 2 місяці тому +5

    NonStampCollector videos never get old - I'm re-watching the whole collection and they're still absolutely spot on!

  • @AndersWelander
    @AndersWelander 6 років тому +49

    I miss the old UA-cam and I miss these kick-ass videos. It's been almost 10 years now. I've seen this one at least 20 times. It's just so brilliant and entertaining.

  • @mamamheus7751
    @mamamheus7751 6 років тому +18

    Just goes to show how ridiculous the whole thing is. The Bible is full of contradictions.

    • @since1876
      @since1876 6 років тому +3

      And, somehow, the readers of it can do the mental gymnastics needed to ignore them.

    • @liam6033
      @liam6033 3 роки тому

      @@since1876 If by doing the mental gymnastics involved by explaining the context and what the verses mean, and how they aren't a contradictions, then you'd be right, I guess.

    • @since1876
      @since1876 3 роки тому

      @@liam6033 there are definitely contradictions. You're just too far gone to see them.

    • @liam6033
      @liam6033 3 роки тому

      @@since1876 The majority of the ones mentioned are either from difference in the ot vs nt in differing covenants or from 2 different perspectives.

    • @since1876
      @since1876 3 роки тому

      @@liam6033 but the new treatment says the entire book is written by god and needs to be obeyed. Meaning ALL of it. So are we allowed to eat shell fish or not? Please note, that's not a question I'm asking. I truly don't give a shit what the bible says about shell fish. Or anything else, for that matter.

  • @georgemissailidis3160
    @georgemissailidis3160 3 роки тому +5

    "I will choose to believe in Christianity, because otherwise I believe I will burn in Hell"
    This is so circular (and even contrary to the moral teachings of Christianity itself, I mean, praising God out of your own self-interest is literally flattery).

    • @Boris99999
      @Boris99999 3 роки тому +2

      Yet that’s exactly what priests and apologists say to people.
      Basically it all comes down to the simplified phrase “believe in Jesus or else...”
      It doesn’t matter if you’re doing good things because you’re afraid of hell or want to get to heaven - it still makes you an insincere and rather unpleasant person. The same goes for those that go to churches for the same reason...

    • @SNORKYMEDIA
      @SNORKYMEDIA 3 роки тому +2

      @@Boris99999 The Mafia boss god

  • @Trainfan1055Janathan
    @Trainfan1055Janathan 5 років тому +8

    This is me having a conversation with my parents.

  • @uncleted470
    @uncleted470 10 місяців тому +6

    I sent this video to a church girl I was dating and she got so mad and broke up with me. I really don’t care. I have made it my life’s mission to educate everyone who associates with me. You can’t be a smart hardworking person but u still believe there’s someone in the sky pulling strings and letting little kids die of cancer.

    • @arthurjeremypearson
      @arthurjeremypearson 10 місяців тому

      The problem is, she votes.
      From her perspective, the logical fallacy that you committed was the ad hominem. You tried to make fun, but it's not fun when you're the butt of the joke.
      This video is pretty good at asking questions instead of making statements, but it's no substitute for in person talking. When she started getting upset watching this video, it didn't stop and ask what was wrong. It kept going. If it was you, you might have empathized with her and backed off a little bit and let her stew. Sometimes these ideas take a while to click, and we have to be patient.
      I'm really trying to say as I'm sorry she broke up with you and she's probably going to go vote Republican

    • @Bojan12
      @Bojan12 8 місяців тому

      You can once you personally get involved with that Being

  • @Joefest99
    @Joefest99 10 років тому +43

    This is NSC's best video! It hits all the key points hard! Well done!

    • @NonStampCollector
      @NonStampCollector  10 років тому +45

      Well, thank you. It was meant to be the only one. I had to make 50 more to get across all the points I missed in this one.

    • @horatiotrismegistus616
      @horatiotrismegistus616 10 років тому +4

      NonStampCollector Thank You.

    • @AazamPossum
      @AazamPossum 8 років тому +7

      You dont have any idea how good this is. This way of putting your points forth. Extremely entertaining and educating.

  • @silvertail7131
    @silvertail7131 Рік тому +5

    Feel this old animation covers a point I find few touch on these days... my understanding of the text is that it suggests the afterlife is one of, service, not the eternal bliss and doing whatever you want that tends to be pushed. Only the location changes, the expectations and roles don't. Like you're going to show up and god holds out a toilet brush... and don't forget to say thank you for the privilege.

  • @A.D.A.M.M
    @A.D.A.M.M 3 роки тому +6

    You are right. why god sacrifice his son to forgive our sins while he can just forgive without all this bloody scenario.

  • @zoutzeder5306
    @zoutzeder5306 3 роки тому +8

    So basically, eternal torture or eternal slavery. Great options we have don’t we.

  • @louistournas120
    @louistournas120 10 років тому +50

    This is the way that ancient people's (jews) brain functioned and so they invented a god that thinks and acts like them.

    • @vgsdomingo1
      @vgsdomingo1 7 років тому +13

      Isn't it strange how every Christian ever has the exact same ideas and feelings as their version of God even though they all claim to be guided by the same one?

    • @RebeckadV
      @RebeckadV 5 років тому +9

      Dude, anti-semitism is not cool. Almost every civilization has at one point or another formed religions. It often starts out as shamanistic beliefs, that then are taken advantage of by rulers to create organized religions made to justify their rulership and keep people in check.

    • @coldbloodedassassin2
      @coldbloodedassassin2 5 років тому

      Also idk how this video can relate to Judaism, hell is a christian concept.

    • @coldbloodedassassin2
      @coldbloodedassassin2 5 років тому

      So yeah bro +3 cringe points for edgy anti-semitic comments bro

    • @tesmith47
      @tesmith47 5 років тому +2

      @@RebeckadV not anti semitic

  • @aerielblair8333
    @aerielblair8333 4 роки тому +7

    woah! this Yahweh guy sounds a lot like my abusive father! fancy that...

    • @ro.m.6432
      @ro.m.6432 4 роки тому

      Well, you cannot hate your abusive father either, can you?
      To be able to hate him, you have to hate life at first.

    • @sundayoliver3147
      @sundayoliver3147 Рік тому

      @@ro.m.6432 False equivalency. You can be grateful to your parents for giving you life, without loving them or their abuse. It takes a while to heal from the abuse, though. Why do you think a god wants to abuse us?

  • @phillipmoore9012
    @phillipmoore9012 8 років тому +13

    Fulke Greville (1554-1628) Elizabethan poet: “Created sick, commanded to be sound.”

  • @NonStampCollector
    @NonStampCollector  12 років тому +1

    @LogiPlush A girl rammed the rear end of my car, once. We got out, had a look, there was minor damage....
    But I couldn't give a damn. I just told her to not worry about it. She insisted on giving me her insurance details, I said don't bother.
    Should I have demanded compensation?
    I once stole chocolate from a convenience store. Should I go to jail for 35 years, or burn in agonizing torture eternally? Or something else?

  • @bobwhite3902
    @bobwhite3902 8 років тому +25

    So much logic!

  • @bekacynthia
    @bekacynthia 12 років тому +4

    This guy that made these videos have a very deep understanding of the bible...I was raised christian and it took me a while to figure that it didnt make any sense. It never ocurred to me that god was jesus, and that if jesus died for us, then it was god sacrificing himself to himself. I was taught this was love and I believed it, until I started to read the bible and thought: wow, god is not exactly what I thought he was!

  • @tomhchappell
    @tomhchappell 4 роки тому +10

    If Heaven is being with God forever, but Hell is being without God forever, I’d rather go to Hell.

    • @gamma3563
      @gamma3563 4 роки тому

      Exactly that’s why hell exist. God isn’t going to force you to live with him for eternity. As you’ve said. You’d rather go to hell. It’s a shame that people think that place will actually be nice.

    • @manofgod7622
      @manofgod7622 4 роки тому +3

      Gamma noone think it’s going to be nice if it exist, but it’s still better than eternal life with arrogant, narcisstic, blood thirsty, killing, war hungry and stupid god.

    • @gamma3563
      @gamma3563 4 роки тому

      An Atheist well then you should really re-read the New Testament, because all those names you attributed to God clearly doesn’t show in his life on earth as a human. He never acted as such, and I’m assuming your taking all the Old Testament as your source for that.
      Well I think it’s pretty obvious, that most people are ignorant to know what he meant/intended. When you ever come to the conclusion he was “evil”.
      Also in order to bring Jesus to earth, and get what he needed done to save humanity. He chose to act accordingly in the OT. We don’t know if there was a way that was more obvious, and less destructive as to which he could have acted, but I think we can conclude that he got his mission done so far.

    • @tomhchappell
      @tomhchappell 4 роки тому +3

      An Atheist It might be good to quit feeding the troll. He can’t know what our lives have been like. Like most believers he thinks the Scriptures are stronger evidence than our personal objective experience.

    • @manofgod7622
      @manofgod7622 4 роки тому +2

      Gamma I don’t care about new testament. If christianits didn’t have to kill religious people except christians, christianity would go extinct. after christians had enough power to rule against enough people (plus their kids who were raised to be strict christians, which helped them to make christianity dominant religion, and BTW Islam does the same and look at how fast the religipn grow) THEN they wrote new testament which is nicer and kinder.

  • @PBAmygdala2021
    @PBAmygdala2021 3 роки тому +6

    How much of your public education was spent teaching you logic, reason, critical thinking, skepticism, and a careful examination of the claims of the thousands of religions of the world?...
    For me, it was zero.
    The system is rigged.
    A handful of us are born curious and rational. An even smaller percentage take the time to educate others, for free, in mediums such as UA-cam.
    Thank you, NSC.

  • @nigelsuresh9562
    @nigelsuresh9562 4 роки тому +9

    Holy shit, I just realized God is the original and ultimate Karen/Kevin.

  • @blazer7811
    @blazer7811 11 років тому +8

    LMFAO!! "Well you see, there was this tree, right, which I told them not to eat off of. But they did, so everybody goes to hell"
    xD

  • @DynastyUK
    @DynastyUK 4 роки тому +4

    People argue, WELL WHO CREATED THE UNIVERSE?!. Not the Christian God, simple as. There's been thousands of gods, and nearly all stories and descriptions form the bible are rip offs of previous religions. We are in a time where we should all know better. Hopefully, religion will just die out. Deep down when u think about death, everyone knows there isn't a heaven but there's a part of them so scared they find it easier to believe there is.

    • @quinnard9750
      @quinnard9750 4 роки тому

      Danyal
      Yes he is wired to think differently than the 2.3 billion general public. So what’s your point?

  • @presto709
    @presto709 2 роки тому +3

    @NonStampCollector , Can I please subscribe to you for all eternity and mash the like button over and over infinity times infinity? It would make me so happy.

  • @shinethief3785
    @shinethief3785 2 роки тому +7

    He sacrificed... himself, to... himself.
    So he is the merchant, the customer and the currency all at the same time. Did I crack the trinity?

  • @RenegadeChain
    @RenegadeChain 5 років тому +3

    1:00 - Here's the part where the apologists step in with the "God doesn't send anyone to hell; you send yourself!" As if that has ever made sense.

  • @shugyosha7924
    @shugyosha7924 10 місяців тому +4

    My biggest criticism has always been, if God is omnipotent and created the universe, then he was completely unconstrained. There was no reason to create a system where free will also requires the existence of evil, or where people through their ignorance condemn themselves to torture. If any parent decided to make such weird and cruel situations for their children we wouldn't forgive it, and parents are imperfect and constrained. There's just no excuse if you then go on to say that God is perfect and unconstrained and does it to all humanity. But somehow God is both omnipotent and constrained, so that it didn't have to be this way yet also has to be this way, and we just can't understand it because we're not God.

    • @Bojan12
      @Bojan12 8 місяців тому

      God is above any Law or Parent. Earthly things do not apply to Him. He is Source of all Design so He makes what is what

    • @akosorosz7453
      @akosorosz7453 7 місяців тому +2

      ​@@Bojan12 ur saying God is a dictator and we can't criticize him 🗿

  • @MocnyBrowarek
    @MocnyBrowarek 5 років тому +2

    So Christianity is like North Korea?

  • @anibal5003
    @anibal5003 8 років тому +8

    Thanks for showing how logical, loving, merciful and perfect this Jewish-Christian god is. I'm happy to live without this "nice" character. I hope more and more people can just understand that life without this god becomes a real life.

  • @johneleven25
    @johneleven25 9 років тому +20

    Brilliant!!!!!!!!!

  • @firstgold5111
    @firstgold5111 5 років тому +8

    God selflessly committed suicide to save us from himself. How loving!!

    • @liam6033
      @liam6033 3 роки тому

      from sin, and what he did wasn't equitable to suicide as it was assisted by ppl who hated him. Also, it wasn't from himself it was for where sin could lead you and from the devil.

    • @hueyfreeman6262
      @hueyfreeman6262 3 роки тому

      @@liam6033 christian

  • @marxgospel8145
    @marxgospel8145 8 років тому +28

    Classic dialogue. Demonstrates beautifully the outrageous and absurd doctrines of Christian dogma.

  • @frmrchristian303
    @frmrchristian303 3 роки тому +5

    As I've heard others say, the god portrayed in the bible really is like the typical "abusive husband"! Like a guy that says, "As long as you do exactly as I say, you won't get hurt!" The main difference however, is that we know abusive husbands exist!

  • @arthurdent5067
    @arthurdent5067 9 років тому +9

    For being your first video... I have watched this the most. Thanks for ALL the videos you make!

  • @dewnotbdeceived80
    @dewnotbdeceived80 3 роки тому +5

    My nephew sent a pic of a fortune cookie note years ago with something like this: "the god you are worshiping is not who you think it is" He knew I was questioning things and he said that I was writing the notes. It was quite funny.

  • @chrisbeer5685
    @chrisbeer5685 10 місяців тому +3

    As an atheist, I hope the modern conception of hell (just life with the absence of god) exists. My life would just continue as is.
    And I certainly don't envy the people stuck in church for all of eternity.😂

    • @JustaNaughtyBoy
      @JustaNaughtyBoy 9 місяців тому +1

      The thing is, different versions of Christians believe different things about hell, so sadly, it isn't the 'modern' conception of hell, as there are several versions of what Christians believe that hell is. Some Christians I have chatted to are convinced that I'm not going to hell, which doesn't sound right to me. There will be a lot of smart scientists down there, folk who aren't credulous or gullible, and are not averse to critical thinking along with using rational and sceptical thought. With all that talent down there, I'm pretty sure there will be air con, and some awesome accommodation that has been built to take advantage of the available heat if need be. The benefit of not singing praises to a bigoted, misogynistic, and genocidal god that advocates for permanently owning people as property that its followers are allowed to beat almost to death, at will and with impunity, is an utter godsend. Who the feck would want that tedium for eternity?

  • @NonStampCollector
    @NonStampCollector  12 років тому +1

    @LogiPlush Can you not think of some person who has suffered worse than Jesus apparently did? Suffered to protect others? POW for example? The difference: they died their only death and didn't walk around again later. Their sacrifice is infinitely greater than Jesus', they died completely!
    I'd go through hell too, for my loved ones, if I knew I'd be back in a day and a half with nothing worse than a few scars.
    Sacrifice indeed. More like a bad weekend when compared to people who actually die.

  • @DoorknobHead
    @DoorknobHead 3 роки тому +5

    I did it! I watched them all! ... do I deserve a cookie?
    Fantastic scripts -- no wonder people like this so much.

  • @xxXthekevXxx
    @xxXthekevXxx 6 років тому +8

    Before this video, I got an ad for a *_”rational, scientific, doctor_* Mormon man!” who became a Mormon because he thought it’d be a good idea to make him happy... “rational”...

  • @NonStampCollector
    @NonStampCollector  12 років тому +1

    @LogiPlush It's completely circular.
    God creates a race of being that is deficient in something in which it itself is (obviously) not, then avails itself for worship by said beings on the grounds that it is abundant in whatever quality they were made (by it) deficient in. It's totally ludicrous.
    It wants creatures to find joy in quality X, makes them deficient in it, then "provides" access to quality X to make them happy. And wants to be thanked for doing so. WTF?

  • @Boris99999
    @Boris99999 3 роки тому +5

    Well to be fair if I met a sadistic all powerful creature that demanded my absolute obedience to its will “or else” I would have a really hard time trying to come up with a reason why I wouldn’t listen to this entity!
    Thank goodness I haven’t met any gods so I’ve yet to discover the truth of this world. But if a god exists and he is just like the Bible describes him - may Cthulhu help us all!

  • @veganatheistandmore
    @veganatheistandmore 6 років тому +11

    This was frikn brilliant. Thank you!

  • @NonStampCollector
    @NonStampCollector  12 років тому +1

    @LogiPlush No, it would be sick. It would be weird and sinister at best, but most likely, as I say, indicative of megalomania of an absolutely incredible scale. An infinitely powerful creator, with no limits, decides to create a race of beings LESS than it, so that they will notice that he is MORE than them, so that they can delight in being allowed to marvel at it being MORE than them. The ego needs of this god are simply amazing. Imagine a god with none. It's easy if you try....

  • @tedgrant2
    @tedgrant2 4 роки тому +5

    It all makes sense, except for one tiny detail.
    According to Wikipedia, the story of Adam and Eve is a myth.
    And no Christian has bothered to change it.
    It's not difficult.

  • @SamsundarX
    @SamsundarX 3 роки тому +6

    NSC has the most brilliant sarcasm that I ever witnessed.
    You know, with a few minor tweaks, this video can be shown in church, and will gather much applause because they will agree with Yhwh's logical explanation of everything.

  • @divisiveamerica7764
    @divisiveamerica7764 5 років тому +2

    Fake! The god of the Bible would never explain himself, that dude would have been smitten the moment he questioned god.

  • @davidgray520
    @davidgray520 8 років тому +16

    This is enlightening. Question everything!!

  • @thomas913
    @thomas913 10 місяців тому +4

    Most UA-camrs are embarrassed of their first videos because they are bad or cringey but while this doesn’t have the same polish of your later videos it’s just as good