LG G2 Review - Brightest LG OLED Yet, But Is It Enough vs QD-OLED?
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- Опубліковано 8 лип 2024
- We review the LG G2, the company's 2022 flagship 4K OLED TV which features "OLED Evo" technology, supplemented by a heat dissipation layer (marketed as "Brightness Booster Max").
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0:00 G2's Secret Weapon
0:23 vs Samsung QD-OLED
1:01 Brightest WRGB OLED!
1:38 vs Sony A90J
1:58 Improvement #1 vs G1
2:50 Improvement #2
3:23 Downgrade #1 vs G1
4:18 Improvement #3
5:13 Worse vs QD-OLED
6:00 HDR quirks
7:18 Gaming powerhouse!
8:00 Downside of 1000 nits
9:00 This remained unfixed.
9:47 Controversial design choice
10:13 Improvement #4
11:20 vs QD-OLED for gaming?
Our review sample is the 65-inch version (model number LG OLED65G2), but the LG G2 is also available in other screen sizes of 55" (OLED55G2), 77" (OLED77G2), 83" (OLED83G2) & a gigantic 97" (OLED97G2).
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@Rick Deckard Yeah, i have but imagine paying 2+ K for a Tv and then spending even more money just " too look better "
@Rick Deckard I don't say it is a bad thing, but some charge a lot of money...
Hi Vincent! became known number zones new miniled sony x95k: 65" 432 zone, 75" 600, 85" 768. Proof avsforum threads sony miniled x95k, page 103, post №2057.
@@neykovmaster No needs a 2k tv either you are right, but no one needs entertainment anyways, no needs to have fun, its not a fundamental need. You buy this because you like it and can afford it. your comment is not only rude but stupid and useless.
@@elmataclachado I’m sorry
Already have my 77in G2 ordered. Can’t wait to get it!
Great review....I am in the purchasing stage so looking forward to your next review of the QD-OLED vs WOLED... thanks for always keeping your review direct and factual. I subscribe to your channel because you tell like you see it...very professional. Your sponsor need to appreciate that point, as well.
how do you like it? Does it make a hissing noise?
Interesting finding about the luminance transition during ABL shifts. I hope you will consider releasing the less compressed video to Patreon after you ultimately make your comparisons of the A95K and S95B with reference. I'd like to get that video at the highest quality. I always look forward to your videos, thanks!!
I think it was APL (average picture level) shifts rather than ABL (automatic brightness limiter), though it may be due to how ABL has been implemented? (At 6:00 in the video.) This put me off the G2. I wonder if it was fixed by LG?
Bought this a few weeks ago and still amazed how beautiful the picture quality of this TV is. Great review!
Grats ... I'm somewhat jealous :-) ... I'll be getting mine by end of this year ... letting firmware and sales prices mature in the meantime ... I'll replace my (16,300 hrs used) 65C7, which still shows breathtaking pictures and without having any issues so far. Have fun :-))
@@marcuscole8796 That's a wise decision. I came from a 5 year old Sony A1 OLED so the leap was huge. :)
Great video once again 👍 the best reviewer no doubt
Thank you Vincent for mentioning on other TVs SoC, and what to expect. I think I will wait next year so all the LG competition can have the approrpriate SoC. I expect I will be able to get a product that I wont regret with the next years model since it will have all the expected features.
And there should be an option to mod the TV's SoC, similar to how certain electronics use cheaper capacitors that burn quicker, with a chance to burn electronics itself. People could just replace the capacitor with higher quality ones, and thus we should be able to get premium parts that match the premium hardware with better SoCs.
However, to reach that level of modification that is considered good, then we need more 3rd party OS'es that can match the quality of Sony in terms of processing as well. I think there is possibly a business opportunity since these TV manufactures that makes the panels are a separate entity and anyone's business can buy their panels if they put them to good use, which as a result increasing the competition to be more competitive for more quality products.
So hypotetically if someone doesnt like OS of samsung, but likes their panels, they should be able to buy their panel and get some reputable 3rd party to install SoC and OS, which I assume would still have warranty. It doesnt only have to be high end, it could also be for low end solutions as well but also may be the person has google at home and wants more google.
So much for that lol
Getting the 65inch G2 from Crampton and Moore and have it pre-calibrated. It is out of stock from their online store at the moment, so waiting for it to come back in stock and then will get it. Thanks Vincent.
I went from a 65" C9 to the 77" G2. I thought about a 65" QD OLED but wanted to go with a bigger screen being I have a dedicated room for my Home theater. My one big negative is the mounting hardware. The mount itself is great, but the screws and wall anchors don't seem to be matched well. When we put the Wall Anchors in, the screws would just turn the anchors once they got around half way in, making them useless. We ended up making a secondary wall with pinewood and 3 locations. The upper portion where the mount was to be attached, middle and lower 3rd, so the Tv would sit flush. All the pine board was secured into studs at 3 different locations, and this ended being a much better solution given even if the wall anchors did work since we wouldn't have been able to hit any studs. As for the picture itself, I absolutely love the TV, big improvement over my previous C9. I don't have a PC hooked up to it as my PC is in my office/game room connected to a Samsung Neo G9. However I think this fall when the new GPUs come out I'll build a gaming system for the theater room and any controller based games I'll play on the G2.
What improvements have you noticed over the C9? I'm on a C8 and itching to pull the trigger, just need to get it past the wife!
Can u go into like a "Vincent mode" and explain in detail how much better it is than the c9. I have a 77 c9 n been waiting for the Sony a90j to go down in price. I have the g1 in 55 but don't see a big improvement over my c9 ,maybe a bit clearer . ty
@@camarykaren there wont really be a big improvement from a woled to another. It is a bit brighter yes.. but its just white light anyway and u will lose even more colour saturation bright hdr scenes.
750nits is the sweet spot for woled and it was designed that way.
@@camarykaren I'm no tech expert like Vincent but I'll do what I can from an average person's point of view. It's noticeably brighter in all aspects. That's the most obvious, both in SDR and in HDR. Everything just has little more punch in terms of color and detail. Probably do to the increased brightness of the panel. In my theater room when I'm watching movies or shows at night I run it with a bias back light on only So during certain scenes say in space where they pan to a large star or in a dark scenes when they pan to a bright light say a flashlight, it can be almost blinding. I never got that with my C9. Motion seems a bit smoother, still have a bit of that OLED judder when panning during scenes but it's not as bad. Also the ABL, hasn't been noticed at all. My C9 especially in prolonged dark scenes it would kick in all the time. Then there's the obvious, screen size. 77" is much more immersive then the 65". I moved up my seats in the room to keep the same viewing distance as when I had my C9. So the combination of all those factors make a big difference in overall experience. I felt the weak link in my home theater has always been the immersion factor of the TV. Now that' no longer the case. Now if only streaming services would upgrade their bitrate on their audio.
@@ThaiNguyen-mh8eu Why would you move the seating, you've effectively just offset the whole benefit of a larger screen?
I have bought a Sony QD OLED and a LG G2…The LG G2 Wins hands down with picture quality.
LG G2 for me, looks great! Personally don’t like Samsung, would have got Sony A95k in a heart beat had it got the 4x 2.1 ports and few better game features, which I don’t understand how they are not the best at gaming with having Ps5 under their roof!
this is my next TV great video !! i Will wait until prices drop first awesome bit of kit from LG
I'm waiting the video at the end but "in progress" from months.. it's needed these BFriday days! ;)
Everyone on the internet think the Samsung S95b QD OLED is an oversaturated mess bcos of ur last vid on the Tv😆can’t wait for ur full review of the Tv💪🏽
You should have seen the G2 pre-calibrated, a blueish mess.
Just look it up on Rtings...
A much too cool color temp of 7000 K -boosting blue tint.
And gamma is too high at 2.28 Making dark scenes appear crushed.
It only takes a whole community of people who don't know a single thing about TV's to start the myth that LG is accurate out of the box.
When Vincent talks about S95B it's pre- calibration
When he talks about LG G2, it's after calibration.
Sadly 90% of his subs have no idea what I just said.
They only pick up on certain things "LG GOOD, SAMSUNG BAD"
Who's everyone?
@@MMTT7sALd almost. Like almost anyone on his last video's comment section. I mean it wasnt wrong, but again, its not as severe as ppl makes it look like
@@Lasse3 You can't 3D LUT calibrate the S95B though. Also, Samsung's DTM can't be truly turned off, no matter what. In addition, even attempting to calibrate correctly with Calman gives incorrect results as the TV fucks with test patterns.
@@collinjgreen I've said that a thousand times already.
Undefeatable DTM, with HGIG = Double tonemapping.
I would not recommend the S95B for console gamers, that's for sure!
Thanks as always Vincent for your honest n hard work. Any chance we can get a LG G2 vs Sony A90j full review.
that we expect that will happen ;)
Would love this myself.
the videos jus keep getting more interesting
I love watching your fantastic high end TV reviews on my secondary TN screen lol
No TV is worth upgrading 1 year later.
Totally
Depends on what you're looking for and whether you're buying flagship, mid-tier or entry level. I own a C1 and a G2. The G2 is a slight upgrade in terms of the software, but where is shines over the C1 is brightness. The G2 lights up my whole apartment. I finally have an OLED I can feel confident using in daytime lighting.
@BTICronox yeah the C1 is great value right now.
I had actually saved up for an S95B, but I can get a LG C1 77" for that kinda money.
I'm really on the fence here,
- get the better image? or get a muuuch larger only slightly inferior image?
Can be had for the same price..!
I'm using my 4K 60Hz TV for 2 years now, and I spent $60 changing backlit LED (Samsung model) I hate it, because why broken after 1 year. Fuc
@@Lasse3 C1 more immerssive bigger & much more accurate, more true to content creators intention. Picture quality on C1 is epic enough + screen size. In Slovakia 77" C1 2399 Euro with LG cashback 500Euro; great price no brainer. I reccomend to calibrate it by profi service, by best calibrator available. Mine A80j after calibration has 3x better picture.
I am waiting for the Panasonic LZ2000 here in the UK. Wish they'd get on with it and get it out to reviewers.
Will be best OLED 2022 most most probably. I am between this or Sony Qd Oled or MiniLed for end year purchase. I use to prefer Sony due to Google TV
Any plans to do a A95k vs G2 side by side comparison?
I would have thought this would have been a very popular and important comparison... Thanks for all that you do!
Can’t wait to see the QN90B 43” review
Solid review 👍 also good advice on waiting for next years mediatek chipset for Sony TVs.
There’s Vincent 🥇 & there’s everyone else 🥈
Cheers for the video.
I've watched a bunch of your OLED reviews. I was leaning towards the Samsung s95b, but then started leaning towards the a80j because of the price. The 1 thing that has made me hesitate buying a new smart TV is the fact that I don't know how it will handle OTA broadcasts, which is mostly 1080i and 30fps in my area. My old plasma renders OTA pretty good.
if u mainly watching low quality sd content dont even upgrade.. cuz it wont be an upgrade.
Only buy a new tv if u going to watch new high quality HDR content and gaming
@@dante19890 Fully agreed ... nevertheless Netflix since 2017 is offering 4K Dolby Vision content and so does Disney+ ... as from my point of view after 5 years now it's about time to upgrade the viewing experience to HDR.
@@dante19890 great advice because the old HD 108-0 Tv's did SDR and HD cable much clearer picture without motion and no grif effect or blooming that i noticed
Thanks for the review Vincent. I'm tossing between the C2 and G2 in a 77. The price difference in Canada once they actually start shipping is usually pretty large. I will wait til you can do a full comparison between the 2 even though if money wasn't an issue, the G2 would be a no brainer. And thank you for being one of the only professional reviewers who actually calibrates review panels so they're on an equal playing field.
@@nocapcryptoo The 77 inch G1 unfortunately in Canada is still going for $5000. We don't have pricing on the C2 but C1s are down to $3500. I'm coming from a 65 C8 and wanted to get the most for my dollar. What did you hear about the G1 being better than the C2?
If it was reasonable, could someone in Canada drive across the border to purchase, or would you have to pay any duties?
@@carlmclemore6104 No warranty. So if anything happens to the set you're screwed sadly.
Which did you end up getting? I'm also torn between the 77" C2 and 77" G2 in Canada, and I can't wait for 77" QD-OLEDs to come out due to time constraints since I need something within a month. It's $4k CAD vs $7k CAD essentially (C2 vs G2).
@@Hyperfluxe Actually because of a huge price difference, I ended up just picking up a C1. The difference in price for the 77 inch size between the c1/2 was about $1500. Now the price has gone down for the C2 so it's now a great deal and I'd go thay route if I was buying today.
The G2 is still $3000 more and that's just not worth it imo.
The sane and rational among us appreciate the critical analysis and insight your work offers, keep on keeping on 👍
Looking to upgrade my 65” KS9000 with no surround sound later this year to an 83” A90J with the HT-A9 and SW5 sub.
Great video. When's the QD-OLED VS WRGB OLED video coming out?
It would be nice if you could also do videos about 2022 mini LED TVs. A lot of people don't want OLED and are interested in new mini LED models like the TCL C83/C93 or Samsung QN90B/QN95B.
In hdr, the peak brightness of the primary color is less than 50% of white, so the white wash out is worse, right? And in vivid mode, is the high gradation clipping and sunken near black still there?
adding the heat dissipation plate was the right move. But I really am waiting to see the QD-OLED vs W-OLED. I recently viewed the S955B at best buy and it look like a qled with perfect blacks and better detail. I was wowed by the samsung sauce. But after about 10 min you could really see the over saturation. Hoping the A95K will have the heat dissipation plate and accurate picture mode. If so it will be a killer TV.
Theres no over-saturation- thats only out of the box. Source, I own one, and made some small tweaks. Its amazing how these things get parroted online. Its not like their FALD QLEDS but actually has that higher color volume without oversaturation.
@@Ford-wt8rn pretty sure HDTV tested this and tried tweaking the settings to get it right and ended up with an s curve
Get a sony xD samsung tends to blow the color to make it “pretty”
@@platano4924 Yeah who would want a pretty TV
I want dull and lifeless!
@@ArtVandelayOfficial over saturated is not real pretty.. which is why i put it in quotation… to be color accurate is not dull or lifeless it shows the color has best possible and as the director intended
Any chance for a comparison with the Sony A90J or A90K, since they use the same panels and also have a heatsink like the G2?
Last year LG offered a free LG XBOOM PL5 speaker with any purchase of a LG OLED C1/G1. I never noticed, but the speaker wasn't setup properly by default in the TV. Volume was set to 0 and it was being used in a surround sound mode. Sometimes it didn't Auto Connect via Bluetooth. So center channel audio for dialogue was terrible. After some tinkering everything works as intended, but it wasn't easy. You have to set it to simultaneous audio and pump up the volume. Then you can switch to the AI Pro sound setting. You will hear a slight echo/reverb in the dialogue, which is the delay going over bluetooth vs the built-in wired audio. Set the delay to 10-25 msec, until the reverb is gone. You might have to connect via bluetooth every time you turn on the TV and Speaker. Maybe turn on the TV first, and then the speaker after 10 seconds, so it auto connects.
Do we know why the removed BFI at 120hz?
That flicker from different scene brightness looks very distracting.. but to another topic, could you do kind of classic vs. today tv battle.. I'm very interested to see how old Sony xe9305/xe930 compares against todays oled/qd oled/microled tv's.. side by side.. max & full screen brightness is still top notch and I imagine that game mode image quality is not compromised..(vs some other new tv's)
To go even further, I would be really interested to see old high-quality Sony trinitron TV vs some modern TVs. Also, some high quality plasma vs modern (be it QLED or OLED). That would be really interesting, especially when it comes to trinitrons.
I would love to see a comparison between 2017/2018 oledTV vs 2022 OLED TV. I own a LG C7 from 2017
Does it benefit you in anyway to have both vrr and freesync on at the same time as shown in this?
LG bravo 👏 👏. I still enjoy my C9. It looks very good to me and I haven’t checked any other TVs directly to go crazy and want to upgrade. My movies and games look great. I want to see what Panasonic offers
Forget Panasonic. Scummy company. Pulled their stuff from several markets and outsourced tons of their stuff too. They have terrible support and rma and rarely fix their software bugs.
Yup, still loving my C9 as well. See no real reason to upgrade, unless it's QD-OLED 2nd gen or 3rd gen.
I also love my LG G1 65" amazing gaming experience and quality of the movies look amazing
@@Dr.WhetFarts I own Panasonic DP-UB9004 and I’m very happy with it. I had to send my device to Panasonic for repair which went smoothly. But I have no experience with their tvs, so I’m just observing
Excellent review mr Vincent but if I didn't have the G1 I would have get this G2 1000 nits just WOW
Losing too much color volume to get there though. Not worth it.
@@brucecarter6205 lol 😂 I just say 1000 nits where did u come from with that
Hi Vince, I"m purchasing the LG G2 83" OLED, tomorrow. However, I'm getting feedback about the flush mount that is included and will not work for proper viewing. I can only mount over my living room fireplace mantle, therefore viewing angle would be about 30-degrees below/5-feet to the bottom edge of the screen. Will I need to purchase a wall mount that angles downward? Thank you for your advice?
You are so based, all your opinions made with real, factual, measured data and objective standards. And people still comparing your opinions to others "master calibrators" like 1 x 1. 🙄 Gosh
The successor to the A95K next year or a Panasonic equivalent could be very interesting with the new MediaTek chipset and a properly driven QD-OLED panel in 77“.
Does parasonic support hgig?
@@helloguy8934 yep
This is exactly what i’m waiting for :)
Does the new Mediatek chipset support more hdmi 2.1 ports?
@@matthieu634 Damn. Parasonic is sounding pretty dope now. How is the input lag?
Watched this on my LG B7 OLED TV and at 0:35 I was a bit confused: was the lingering white box part of the video or my screen retaining that image?
Would you recommend I put a backlight strip of some kind behind a 77" LG G2 if I'm using the wall mount it came with on a N8 grey wall?
Hi Vincent, would love to know your thoughts on the best gaming TV of 2022. I’m stuck trying to decide between the LG G2 and Samsung S95B. Best wishes!
Yeah, same here, except stuck between G2, C2 (55" or 42"), Philips 807, Panasonic LZ1500, ASUS PG42UQ, and S95B. That QD- vs W-OLED shootout would help narrow things down!
The G2 could be the pinnacle of RGB TV's. So bright, Good noise reduction to handle low-bit rate sources and any 'better TV' next Year (2023) will only be far more expensive with less value in any improvements.
Can you elaborate ? I’m debating getting g2 or waiting
@@peopleperson7263 I feel that which TV you find best in the end is always going to be subjective or how much of a movie fan you are. The G2 just strikes me as amazing value for the features and future-proofing you're getting: and I have had to demo it but only very crudely in a store because I'm admittedly just a casual viewer in the end in terms of TV but I do want good Standard definition upscaling where possible. So while Sony's A95 might be better (even slightly brighter) for some, it's over £600 more the value doesn't cut it for me.
@@netweed09 I got the c2 !
Hi Vincent,
is the VRR problem solved?
Best regards
Was looking forward to your comparison review of the QD-OLED vs WOLED??
Did you test latency in 4:3? Just wondering if the c2's input lag in that aspect ratio transferred over to the g2.
4:3 on a modern telly? Are you retro gaming?
@@trevhib yes, and there appears to be a bug where 4:3 content drastically increases input lag on the c2.
@@Thirdeye413 Cool. Not sure what it is with new TVs, some steps forwards and some steps back!
@@Thirdeye413 I've seen this problem on a my life in gaming video. It was such an issue, he returned the c2 for a C1. Because he couldn't stand the lag.
Yep, if 4:3 has a weird lag penalty, I'm not interested.
Of course its not enough to fight QD OLEDs increased color volume and true RGB panel, as well as slightly higher brightness
Color gamut too. 90% bt.2020
@@helloguy8934 that too, I really dont understand how are they comparable at the same price, in some places G2 is actually more expensive :D
Doesnt matter when samsung did it wrong. Over saturated and fake. ( you know tv sense its in %10 mode like a WV emission test) You will see REAL QD-OLED power with A95K
@@sneikiusas If samsung didn't stupidly deveate from reference in filmmaker mode. Or fuck up hgig it'd be an easy choice. I'm interested to see the a95k versus the g2 in games. I imagine the a95k will probably come out on top though despite no hgig.
@@helloguy8934 a95k should be brighter and more accurate, but 1000 dollar difference is too much for me. So I ordered 65 inch s95b, cant wait
I was already struggling to choose between the JZ2000, LZ2000 and A95K… now there’s a spanner in the works - I’m thinking of considering a G2 after watching this video . A shootout cannot come soon enough 😭
LZ 2000 vs A95K 😉 but G2 doesn't look bad. I have advice 77-83" G2 cannot go wrong. Size & price leader from all 3 & better calibrate it too.
@@milanklco Cheers for the advice . Not too sure whether I will get calibration or not so I don’t mind paying a bit more for better out of the box accuracy. I also feel like there’s less panel lottery issues with the Panasonic or Sony but I could be wrong . I’m also intrigued by the better sound options they present . The G2 definitely needs a sound system to go with it , the LZ2000 doesn’t and the Sony can work a centre channel speaker and I’ve heard mostly good things about pairing Sony oleds with their surround system .
Panasonic have stepped up their gaming performance but lg is much better than Sony when it comes to gaming .
Decisions , decisions , decisions 😂
@@bilvah2914 I talked to mine calibrator, and heard top calibrators that each set not model or brand is different in colour accurancy, so do yourself relief and sure consider calibration. Mine A80J is 3x more nice after calibration, contrast on SDR is next level & colours too, same goes for HDR. So anyhow whichever model you mentioned will be great. And yes bigger size panel over smaller more expenssive any day 🙂 Even C2 83" is better option as LZ2000 65" . Like really best if price is similar G2. Really size size size & calibration. Sony A80K 77" wont be slouch too 😉 . 3300-500 will be for 83"C2 in end of 2022, 77" A80K or C2 will go for around 2100-200. And 1200-300 65" C2 or A75k - A80k Sony Oleds my estimations. If you consider top models 77" LZ 2000 and 83" G2. There is no world for A95k 65" same price. Sure next year is 77" QD Oled officially announced by Samsung, it will be here in 2023. I would be greeting it with 83" G2 or LZ 2000 77" if money is no object 😃 good luck & have fun 🙂
@@milanklco thank you and glad to hear your happy with your calibration . All the best
@@milanklco where do you buy the panasonic lz2000 oled? can't find it anywhere
At the end you said to compare this to QD-OLED but my issue with QD-OLED is that it doesn’t come in a 77”, it is insane that Samsung chose 55” for a flagship TV size, I understand the 64” because that is the most popular size but if you are paying for the newest tech you are also going to want the nicest and biggest TV. So making a 65” and a 77” or 83” would have made way more sense than a 55”
its to do with yield percentage...there still getting less then 20% yield so smaller sizes are better financially untill the processes and yield is improved
0:54 "to achieve higher pick brightness than what conventional OLED TV's are capable off"
Panasonic started this heatsink idea years ago and they still doing it 😉
Peak.
@@musguelha14 Sometimes I don't understand myself 😁
panazonic sucks dick unless you want a TV for 90 days at the cheapest price
I preferred the state of WRGB panels 3 or 4 years ago when the 5-10% grey uniformity was not good, but it was barely noticeable unless you are watching very dark content in a pitch black room.
Now we have what can only be described as much worse white uniformity on every panel. The pink tint on the "evo" panels on C1/G1 from last year and now again this year is noticeable from in front if you use the screen at all on a pure white screen. It isn't just a purely side on issue.
My older B7 has perfect white uniformity. I find my C1 quite distracting to use sometimes.
Is the c1 the cx? Because I have a cx and don’t have that problem. However I will say oranges and some skin tones I don’t like. I don’t know if the reds are over saturated but I don’t like it
@@yourmommashouse nope, different models
i have a C1 (non evo) and notice nothing off and i watch a lot at night in a pitch dark room
@@Hypno_BPM yep it is the C1s with evo panels that have the issue
To get rid of the pink tint, reduce green and blue in the white point balance until it goes away, its a simple fix that Ninjician has videos of.
😁Thanks for the Video, Can’t wait for Sony new QD-OLED 😃
With the nits lowered to 1000 instead of the original 1500 is the image retention closer to the G2 or is it still bad on the S95B?
Not bad LG but QD OLED is on another level. Really blown away by my S95B. Especially with my 3090. PC gaming has never been better!
Based on what I’ve seen from many reviewers, the S95B is a bright, but very inaccurate TV.
Hi I'm thinking of buying it for myself but from what I see in reviews, the images in it looks orangy. For you, is it bothersome to look at if you compare other tvs to it?
@@Sonola777 I'm not huge on accuracy because we don't watch test patterns. I actually enjoy a brighter image on the OLED.
@@adrianrondumanig1946 I don't see that at all. It's most likely the camera being used. It's truly the next generation display. It's really hard to capture what you see in person on camera.
@@NexGenTek Dunno if you seen Vincent's video. But the issue is it's deveating from reference in filmmaker mode. Reference is what the director intends you to see. Samsung has always been pretty shit about this. And they have blacklisted Vincent.
Vincent - When are we going to see the S95B review?! You already released 2 videos on S95B recently but no full review yet, instead we got review of LG G2!
When is Z9K released? A couple more months? I'm very curious about that one.
Vincent what can we do to make HGIG work properly on our 77in LG G2 oled tv, It is currently broken! And can you please make a video to talk about this problem. It would really help out a lot. Thanks man you’re the best.
I still haven't seen a QD OLED in person yet & the C2 & G2 launch in Australia later this month. I still use a CX for gaming & a C1 as my theatre room TV & I honestly don't bother with BFI since I'm not sure how to use it on my C1 for my 4K BD without that horrid "trumotion" unnatural frame rate(24fps forever!) that gives me motion sickness.
When you enable BFI is 1 of the options in the Trumotion settings. When you enable BFI, you won't be enabling that motion sickness inducing fake frames. Rather, it will imitate a CRT TV by inputting rolling scan black screen to increase motion clarity at the expense of a dimmer looking screen. So there will be no unnatural motion at all. But... At 60fps, it's useless for movies due to the framerate being at 24fps. You need 120Hz of BFI to be useful for a majority of framerate content such as 24, 30, 60 and 120Hz.
Please, test the VRR gamma flicker on the Samsung QD-Oled too when doing the comparison.
Don't worry I am sure he will find some fault on S95B.
I have had two s95bs, I loved it but that flicker sure does kill the tv for me. I returned my first because I thought it was an issue with the panel I got, then realized it does it on everything. I just traded it in today for a g2, waiting on that to get here. I liked the brightness but my god does the flicker annoy the hell out of me. I can’t unsee it, and even notice it in movies now. I really wanted to love the tv, but that has been a major issue for me and pushed me to return to lg. The different bugs combined with the slowness of the ui really put the nail in the coffin for myself, although it might not bother others as much
@@levidavidson1508 if you see it on movies then it's not the VRR flickering, it another problem, since movies don't use VRR. I heard the TV has a brightness flicker issue, maybe that is what you noticed
Just wished we could get 42" G2.
Hello 👋 I have the Sony X85J, I switched to every option on both Sony PlayStation 5 and TV settings but still shows 60hz while others change the same settings and 120 hz at YUV422 while mine is stuck at RGB how do I change that?
How is it unfortunate for QD-OLED to have higher brightness?
Not sure he said that. I would assume that his words were more towards unfortunately for LG, the QD-OLEDS are better.
It is unfortunate for LG display, that QD oled released, so the G2 is not the brightest. Don't read into what isn't there
@CONSOLES GUY. Ah so you didn't catch that color saturation is lost at high brightness in hdr on this lg, mostly cus LGTV test didn't mention it.
@CONSOLES GUY. yeah that's an issue by itself though would you prefer tone mapping or terrible full field brightness with loss of color in hdr? It's a pick and choose but when the negatives aren't mentioned in the actual review how would some even know
I gather that in the image retention test that the Samsung S95B is displaying higher nits (from the description as being at "full blast") than the LG G2. I wonder how the Samsung would do if it were held back to displaying the same nits as the LG.
Seriously. The discrepancies in this “review” are absurd. He said he was “saving” white subpixel dilution for a future video. This is the review! Come on now.
@@blueversace4447 yeah the lg sponsor is clear for some of us…
And banding or burn in issues?
My 2017 has a blue burn in/band in the lower screen.
- lpcm 5.1 audio still marked as 7.1 via eARC, making rear sound come out of side speakers in 7.1 sound systems?
- Is multi channel lpcm working now via eARC on Samsung soundbars q950t/a or q990b?
- No more added delay for dolby mat for Xbox one?
Wish you could give some attention to loss of color volume and color gamut in G2 compared to G1 due to increased pressure on white subpixel.
That’s always going to happen in ANY tv, choose your option. I prefer the loss of some color for higher white point
@@tears2040 that sucks , i’d prefer the opposite, deeper colors for slight dimmer picture that will look fine in dark rooms anyways (which is how i game)
@StreaMRoLLeR: We're saving it for the WRGB vs QD-OLED comparison. :-)
@@hdtvtest You're such a tease Vincent ;-)
@@darius9534 it has less color volume then previous wrgb oled tvs as it's white sub pixel is pushing harder. It dilutes color further. It's why it still didn't beat the a90j in yellow and orange flames as Vincent explained. He is saving the comparison of showing the dilution/color volume against qd oled as he stated. But the reason wrgb oled tvs have less color volume is due to the white sub pixel. Since lg is pushing it harder with nothing in place to combat it like sony who does quad sub pixel boosting. Well you will notice the loss of color in brighter colors.
Keeping my 65 C1 until QD-OLED matures. C2 and G2 are not enough of an upgrade.
That's the smart path. Never buy year one tech (AV gear or cars); always wait for the second gen. Always.
That said, I went from a Vizio OLED65-H1 to the 77" G2 and couldn't be happier. No QD-OLED at that size and being a hardcore game and movie buff, right now, this was the best choice for me. If SONY or SAMSUNG offered a QD at 77" I would have waited.
By the time they do, if not a bit after, I'm sure LG will trounce them with their QD offerings.
But why did they remove black frame insertion at 120hz? i wanted that feature for gaming on my console.. now i am waiting for a new that has it
G2 or g1 for gaming on ps5, sports and some movie watching?
Is it true for the image retention test the S95 was going brighter, so it doesn’t necessarily have more image retention for the same APL? White subpixel dilution is also increased on this vs older models.
LGTV test said he wanted to put it in the comparison only on one of the other replies. Probably to give it that award and hoped no one noticed.
I can't believe that removed 120hz BFI! Best gaming feature, what's even the point in doing that?
It boggles the mind does it?
dear Vincent, is there APL problem with lg g2? or heatsink solves this problem? I ve purchased a lg c2. it will arrive on Monday. if g2 doest have this problem I can send it back without opening box and purchase this g2 . thanks
Hi Vincent, how's the near black chrominance overshoot on the G2? Is it still an issue?
Having an outstanding order for the G2, wondering if I should shift to QD instead... "Watch video here.. IN PROGESS". DAMN IT VINNY!
Haha, no, another great review and result by Vincent. Your in-depth analysis in your earlier videos and strong points in this one as well. Samsung TV company is really conflicted and this video shows that the S95B was kinda rushed out the door (in fear of being stuck with unproven panels). I suppose the true king is yet to arrive .. the A95K, complete with new panels, heatsink and everything.
Having said that, I'll probably leave my order for the G2 as is and will enjoy in a week or so. I think the longer-image retention due to lack of heatsink and the over-satured/over-brightened colours of the Samsung QD-OLED will bother me more and all for a bit more colour and bit more peak brightness. The Sony is too expensive for my taste and will take even longer to launch. I'm really looking for to the OLED wars next year and for now enjoy my G2.
Oh and LG... give us the option to unlock DTS/DTS HD-MA on this beauty. I don't care if it's a €40 DLC option.. just let us fully enjoy our content. Who knows, perhaps the time is finally here we can enjoy our content on the actual smart-software of the TV instead of relying on player.. who am I kidding.. they're never going to do this and my Nvidia Shield will play anything anyone could ever need.
how do you like your G2?
@@michaellubeck8464 received my G2 almost three weeks ago and it has massive coil whine during specific scenes (guessing panel power levels). Not during bright scenes rather a combination of dark and light. For instance the home screen of my android TV Nvidia shield or the ui of UA-cam on android TV. Black screens with little bright squares.
Whine is gone when eco mode is on (power draw too low) or when the display is in vivid mode (power draw too high). It's not just the menus, also some random scenes in movies and series that have the same power signature.
The store has frozen my return window for me whilst LG is looking into the issue. Thus far no results yet.
@@mmaster23 thanks for this info...i'm going to cancel my G2 and either get the A80K or A95K
@@mmaster23 also i noticed and heard the g2 is washed out due to being too bright in some scenes..my c1 looks perfect.it's weird because we all complained OLED is too dim so they gave us what we asked for - a super bright Oled and now there are some washed out/clipping i think they call it - where the overly bright screen loses color volume or whatever where it's just a bright white light..due to being too bright in some scenes..my guess is the sony oled and qled's are better..i noticed the gallery art on the g2 looked kinda washed out because it was too bright..OLD CRT tv's used to have a lot less drawbacks they were simple technology..can we go back to 1979?..i still remember how amazing my 2005 Magnavox MF337B model looked in 720P ....that was a SHARP picture and that tv lasted for 6 years and still worked perfectly when i gave it up - only ever needed one repair...ah well
@@michaellubeck8464 my issue could be isolated though and any consumer electronics could coil whine for a great number of reasons. I had a pretty good deal on my G2. Given that the numbers for the tv's are quite similar, I'm still sticking with my G2 for now. Samsung's cheating and lack of heatsink is a turn off for me and the A95K is way more expensive for the QD upgrade over the G2.
Its a shame that LG forces consumers to buy the G2 for a better faster WebOS. I think an update could fix this problem. For everyone who doesnt know: G1 WebOS works slow & laggy. Even the WebOS of the C9 works better. What a shame LG!
what resolution is used for the 21:9 mode?
Thanks for the review Vincent! I'm about to pull the trigger on an new TV and I'm torn between the 83" C1 and the 77" G2 available at the same price point. What would you recommend?
83" C1. Always go bigger if you have the space and budget.
@@hdtvtestGreat advice, thanks Vincent!
We just want to know if its better overall choice compared to samsung qd oled
You will need an objective review from somewhere like rtings for that instead of from LGTV test.
The g2 is my first new tv in 10 years. Upgrade from a crapy samsung led. Hope it will last.
I upgraded from a 2012 Plasma to the 77 in G2. Love it.
Vincent, do you know why they killed 120HzBFI off?
Hi Vincent, I purchased LG G2 and wanted to get it calibrated by a professional calibrator. I was told there is bit of an issue with G2's firmware & internal pattern generator. Is it right?
If you can get an 83 inch Sony A90J at a discount for mainly TV and movies and no video games, rather than LG G2, is it a better deal.
The A90J does a good job with gaming ? Not as good as LG but it’s definitely not bad
The question is, when is the Samsung S95B review coming out?
Thank you.
I sell these products for a living and for all the hype leading up to its release I can’t say the QDOLED has lived up to expectations. I would go so far to say the C2 even has a better all-round picture.
I have to agree.
I think the Sony A95K will be the TV to beat as far as OLEDS
It will likely be the best TV of 2022.......and the most expensive. The Sony A95K stand looks hideous though!
@@gbej1 that’s purely your opinion. I think the stand is great
@@micker9830 you mount your tv.
i mean its sony and its also the priciest one. what do you expect ?
@@micker9830 because Sony wants you to appreciate the acoustic surface audio the tv offers. It’s meant as a stand-alone product. I own soundbars too, so tv speakers will never be enough for me, so I just mount the TVs instead. It’s a pain, but if it’s necessary so be it
1:20 "unfortunately" (for LG), you forgot to mention
I found that strange.
It's definitely "fortunate" that the technology has made great strides. Lol
@iceagecoming: The same applies to all WRGB OLED TVs with heatsink, including the Panasonic LZ2000.
Will you be reviewing TCL's C935 and C835
I've an C8....Its worthing upgrading? Playing ps5 so VRR will be nice. Question: on Netflix dolby vision I always see some noise in black background...Will this be gone with the G2? And VRR has a flickering problem in this G2 panel when playing on ps5? Sorry for the bad English
I find my LG G1 77 to be too bright in a lot of scenes. With the high contrast, I don't understand why people would want brighter. In a dark room, the G1 can hurt my eyes with the contrast. Am I alone? I am guessing the size makes it even brighter...
fullscreen high apl scenes can still look abit dim on an oled cuz it will trigger abl. But in a dark room ur good to go with an oled.
A80J 65" can hurt my eyes in dark room in some HDR scenes, but in minor occassions. I am not a fan of even higher brightness then A80J or something similar.
I have the same „problem“ in a dark room, but have only a LG C1 77, I also dont understand why it shoud be brighter than that.
And our living room is not dark, we have three big windows here.
You are not alone, i have same thought around that
Yeah, my GX is plenty bright enough. I'm still blown away by how good it is.
Nah , the A95K will be better option this year , cant wait for that tv
For gaming forget it...it will be overpriced and as usual updates will suck that's sony these days....and not to mention the weak ps5 and his flaws...
@@piensluc7444 Yep and only 65 '' max , Now for this year black friday , best option will be LG 83G2
@@piensluc7444 sony tvs always have better Picture quality , better color accuracy , powerful processing , better upscaling, better iOS , better sound quality etc
@@piensluc7444 i heard it'll actually be good for gaming this year it's supposed to be "ps5 ready"
@@piensluc7444 don't you mean the Samsung S95B? Already having software issues
is the compensation done at 500 or 2000 on this G2 panel? i saw another video where it said 2000.
That initial image retention slide was very interesting, and disturbing regarding the Samsung QD Oled. I would not be in the market for a technology this new without some longer term testing and refinement.
The Sony A95K will have a QD-OLED panel ... and ... also a heatsink as the G2 shown here in the video. In case of you are interested in getting the image retention and burn in reduction risk improvement coming along with a heatsink.
Whether in general QD-OLED is as resistant to burn in as LG OLED already is ... or even more resistant ... only time can tell.
@@marcuscole8796 You are right chief !
I'm disappointed that you didn't mention the LG C2's significant problems with retro gaming, such as higher latency with 4:3 aspect ratio and certain resolutions and removal of 4-way zoom. The C1 was considered the best available TV for retro gaming, and the C2 has several significant regressions that make it a poor choice.
You're really a niche audience, probably so much that Vincent isn't even aware of this.
OLED is a poor choice for retro gaming simply because your hardware isn't driving HDMI or display properly, even 360 or PS3 won't look very good in comparison to a standard television. XRGB FRAMEMIESTER and cranking AI Gen4 processor functionality to achieve artificially intensified preset would be a proper method to enhance this, but still might produce what is considered inferior result to it's intended visual output. Observed including on original Xbox
I think LG does a poor job supporting different features, although samsung does it too, I settle with samsung because when it works it does better than LG. still you might find any of them atrocious. my choice is motion clarity and samsung is great but sony is the best just that sony sucks on input latency and lack of features. maybe wait for sony qd oled performance.
Retro gaming = get a CRT..
@@lifelfe Retro gamers aren't plugging composite video cables into their OLED TVs (LG no longer even has analog video inputs), they're using HDMI scalers like the RetroTINK 5X and the OSSC. The Framemeister is old and considered obsolete. CRTs are not really the point, and not practical for most people, especially now that even low-end consumer CRT TVs sell for hundreds of dollars. The C1 was widely sought after in the retro gaming community for being the best digital TV ever made for retro gaming (some purists would argue in favour of plasma instead), and the C2 is a massive step back.
Hang on image retention on the samsung shows burn in could be an issue in later life of qd oled, im waiting for sony to drop the heatsink qd oled then pop to the post office with a mask.
Image retention and burn in are different things brother.
But I get your point. If you need to contact Samsung warranty service, well then good luck with that.
That’s not image burn in, that’s image retention. Also it’s not a race on how fast an OLED clears image retention as long as it clears it in a reasonable manner. This test doesn’t mean the S95B will get burn in whatsoever.
All OLED will have burn in. It's really about when. Most are rated at about 5 years give or take. OLED life is much smaller than LED due to being organic.
@@icemanandbobtechandgaming white pixels for the qd oled panel so chance it ever has burn is next to non existent as well since it was the red sub pixel that had issues.
All phosphor based displays suffer the burn in issue from crt to plasma they had burn in and no white subpixel, oled was aggressive with a white subpixel due to been so dim to save the colours from working so hard now dq oled dumos that white as the rgb does the full show again meaning like a crt and plasma before it burn in but just longer as there no bright white enhancing pixel losing lumen over time creating shaded areas.
When can we expect the woled vs qd oled video?
I got a G1 last year. How long should I keep it at this rate of tech advancement?