𝗪𝗔𝗥𝗡𝗜𝗡𝗚: LG Secretly Overhaul This OLED Feature on C3 & G3… Should You Buy C2 Instead?

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  • Опубліковано 23 лип 2024
  • LG has changed a key feature on the C3 & G3 OLEDs, which may push some buyers to get the C2 instead. Get Surfshark VPN at surfshark.deals/HDTVTest - Enter promo code HDTVTest for 83% off and 3 extra months FREE.
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    1:10 Bad News
    1:53 How You're Affected
    4:33 HDR Games Affected
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  • @camarykaren
    @camarykaren Рік тому +251

    Well this is a deal breaker for me. Watching Ozark on my LG G1 was unbearable at times with the dimming ,which I didn't notice so much on my LG C9. Thanks so much Vincent for the heads up with this huge change . Once again consumers are always on the short end of the stick . Hopefully ,there's a work around.
    Thanks for your honest and hard work.

    • @TPRErik
      @TPRErik Рік тому +3

      The C9 definitely has it as well. I had to disable it.

    • @samuelgalindo46
      @samuelgalindo46 Рік тому +1

      Well said, @RON B

    • @Piasecznik72
      @Piasecznik72 Рік тому +11

      I'm using CX as PC monitor and TPC was a nightmare until I disabled it. I wanted to wait for C3 or G3 launch to buy it as replacement for few other TV sets I have but now I know I will never do that. Thanks Vincent.

    • @malazan6004
      @malazan6004 Рік тому +5

      ​@@Piasecznik72do you use BFI? C2 and C3 also have bfi 120hz missing .... They keep removing features

    • @camarykaren
      @camarykaren Рік тому

      @Robert Kowalski Hopefully, Vincent can find a work around and find a way to disable it.

  • @tayjn
    @tayjn Рік тому +231

    This sucks. If the option remains available to Hollywood studios then it should be available to consumers as well. Otherwise they’re going to be grading content in a way that doesn’t reflect how it actually looks on any retail LG OLED

    • @gorak9000
      @gorak9000 Рік тому +41

      It looks like they just added a second password that gives you the full service menu, and changed it so the old password gives you no options to change anything now. I'm sure the new password will leak, or someone will look in the firmware and find it.

    • @FilippoTarpini
      @FilippoTarpini Рік тому +39

      Only Tom Cruise knows the password

    • @gorak9000
      @gorak9000 Рік тому +18

      It's also only a 4 digit password. If you knew 10 people that had the TV and had an automated way of trying combinations, you could have the password in a few hours.

    • @roba.8907
      @roba.8907 Рік тому +6

      @@gorak9000 Thanks for sharing the info since this otherwise would have been a deal breaker for many of us. Totally agree it probably won’t take long before it’s crack and leaked…

    • @junior-OG
      @junior-OG Рік тому +2

      @@FilippoTarpini 🤣

  • @jasons6499
    @jasons6499 Рік тому +95

    They need to fix the algorithm to detect low light scenes not being mistaken for static screens

    • @vitiok78
      @vitiok78 Рік тому

      They are too dumb for that unfortunately

    • @loki76
      @loki76 Рік тому +10

      Vincent said he will test this when he gets his own samples. To see if LG did something to instead compensate for this problem. Better hope they did.

    • @Sandurz
      @Sandurz Рік тому +8

      for real, 99% of people would never turn it off if it actually worked

  • @CarnivoryHODL
    @CarnivoryHODL Рік тому +207

    Unless they fixed this feature, LG’s taking a big step backwards.

    • @jerryx2000
      @jerryx2000 Рік тому +7

      Its surely due to the EU power regulation. LG is forced to do so. Same as engine exhaust noise.

    • @semtexxl4023
      @semtexxl4023 Рік тому +9

      It seems higher the number less and less control and features you get: C2: No BFI 120Hz.... now C3 has NO TPC/APL control. Pretty “cool” LG?!

    • @alexkotlar2327
      @alexkotlar2327 Рік тому +10

      @@jerryx2000 this is not true

    • @mankat6562
      @mankat6562 Рік тому +2

      Blame the youtube creators for pointing this out

    • @darylkeam7670
      @darylkeam7670 Рік тому +1

      ​​@@jerryx2000 No it is not and u know it, dont play stupid.😂

  • @444chroma
    @444chroma Рік тому +221

    I understand closing the loophole to push a C2 into behaving like a G2, but to remove controls for TPC and GSR that's going too far

    • @SLICK8116
      @SLICK8116 Рік тому +6

      The nerve😂

    • @dante19890
      @dante19890 Рік тому +13

      That would make the c3 oled inferior to the previous C series models

    • @malazan6004
      @malazan6004 Рік тому +9

      ​@@dante19890c3 is inferior in some ways intact c2 also is as both are missing BFI at 120hz but cx and c1 have it. BFI to me is a game changer especially at 60 to 120hz

    • @dante19890
      @dante19890 Рік тому +3

      @@malazan6004 its been a trend that the c series have gotten worse since the c1

    • @arthur78
      @arthur78 Рік тому +1

      ​@@malazan6004 yup C1 is the best so far in my opinion, thanks to 120Hz BFI (mostly only relevant for high-end PC gamers who can run their games at stable 120fps). I bought two C1s to keep one as a backup!

  • @DanielFitzpatrick03
    @DanielFitzpatrick03 Рік тому +19

    That's a deal-breaker for me. Thank you @HDTVTest for reporting it!

  • @Danne89
    @Danne89 Рік тому +93

    Horrible decision by LG unless they (as you said) fixed this or added something else in the menus. I was gunning for a C3 77" and was looking forward to not having a black screen for 5 seconds every time I start my AppleTV (as it is on my C1 65"). Now I'm considering buying a C2 instead and living with the black delay. I can't live with dimming.

    • @SomeUserNameBlahBlah
      @SomeUserNameBlahBlah Рік тому

      LG said the option to disable will be present for Hollywood TVs. Meaning, the C3 and G3 will still dim for consumer products.

    • @JackBusiness89
      @JackBusiness89 Рік тому +9

      @@SomeUserNameBlahBlah I don't think that's what he meant. I think he meant a very specific line of G3's will be sold to production companies with those options readily available in the service menu.

    • @iamski
      @iamski Рік тому

      They did this to escape numerous warranty claims since they now cover burn-in.
      Which also tells me they’re afraid obviously, they can’t guarantee burn-in is no longer an issue anymore. It’s pure greed only.

    • @SomeUserNameBlahBlah
      @SomeUserNameBlahBlah Рік тому +2

      @@iamski I don't think it's greed. No company wants to sell products which will break shortly after purchase. This would cause LG to go under from bad branding.

    • @dontpokethebear3893
      @dontpokethebear3893 Рік тому +4

      Just buy a decent tv made by Sony instead.

  • @JouMxyzptlk
    @JouMxyzptlk Рік тому +27

    Thank you for that piece of information! I HOOOOPPPEEE they moved that options to the main menu so we don't need the service menu any more. But I doubt LG would go to this level of customer wish...

    • @JackBusiness89
      @JackBusiness89 Рік тому +3

      T
      I don't think that's going to happen anytime soon though.

    • @jarekzahary
      @jarekzahary Рік тому

      hope is the mother of fools

  • @LShortcuts
    @LShortcuts Рік тому +4

    How to check the chip type:
    1. Open UA-cam.
    2. Within UA-cam go to Settings (UA-cam settings, not the TV settings) > App version
    3. Under Device, the chip type should be listed.

  • @IV-A
    @IV-A Рік тому +19

    My LG B9 auto dimming was absolute deal breaker. I disabled it year ago. If they do not have the option of disabling it in the future I will not buying their tvs.
    Or fix the algorythm that it will NEVER dim a MOVING IMAGE.

    • @eternalbeing3339
      @eternalbeing3339 Рік тому

      Exactly what i said. I was going to return my b9 because the dimming was so bad. Disabling it made it usable.

    • @IV-A
      @IV-A Рік тому

      @@eternalbeing3339 to be honest it took me years to see the dimmin but In movies like Dune and The Northman the dimming was really bad. The northman was the last straw.

  • @E_Rice
    @E_Rice Рік тому +3

    Thank you, Vincent. Huge info presented here. Get it together LG.

  • @spuchoa
    @spuchoa Рік тому +40

    This is a dealbreaker for me, I will wait for the QD Oled reviews and decide between Sony or Samsung. Thank you for the video Vincent!

    • @MrlspPrt
      @MrlspPrt Рік тому +5

      Since I'm not that wealthy, I'll just see for the Samsung one, if it's as bad as the last year model, then I'll stay with my 2016 TV (I need a car too, so whatever it happens it's a win to me).

    • @32toddv
      @32toddv Рік тому

      Remember Samsung display makes the Sony qd OLED panel,Sony just does the processing

    • @rahb2096
      @rahb2096 Рік тому +2

      @@MrlspPrt it’s silly people still have this opinion. Whether it’s claiming the build is bad, not having the tv on auto color, or just not putting their tv offline or if they updated not accessing the service menu and changing the brightness back.

    • @MrlspPrt
      @MrlspPrt Рік тому +2

      ​@@rahb2096 I'm really concerned about the bent panels, I don't live in a first world country, here in México companies can easily ignore you if they can because going to the authority is a pain in the *ss, I'm waiting for filling a claim against a retailer who refused to exchange a RAM kit I tested with Memtest, while they tested it with the Windows built-in software. The RAM was "just" $175.00 USD, imagine if the same happens with a $1500.00 USD TV. That's why I'm so concerned about its quality, the rest can be solved, just as you said.

  • @Simon_Hawkshaw
    @Simon_Hawkshaw Рік тому +1

    Thank you for sharing this information with us all. I am sure this change in the LG menu options will certainly reduce sales.

  • @kendriiickdaniel
    @kendriiickdaniel Рік тому +7

    bro man you are just the best learned so much from you thank you KING

  • @GokuTheGreat3441
    @GokuTheGreat3441 Рік тому +34

    If you really can not turn off TPC and GSR, then I wouldnt even consider buying a G3, despite its brightness boost, whats the point, if its dimming down anyways...

    • @MrlspPrt
      @MrlspPrt Рік тому +5

      Also, what's the point of the heatsink if they still dimm the screen?

    • @ariefrachmanhakim825
      @ariefrachmanhakim825 Рік тому

      and you will see a dark picture,how annoying😅😅

  • @SilentShadow-ss5xp
    @SilentShadow-ss5xp Рік тому +6

    I consider this a design flaw. If during normal use the image can darken when it shouldn't then suddenly brighten that's a flaw to me. LG should allow this to be disabled and if they want even give a warning that it may degrade the panel and isn't covered under warranty. The end user should be allowed to decide if they want this on or off.

  • @bloomerb4162
    @bloomerb4162 Рік тому +6

    This was a big advantage over other oled brands. Bad move unless they don't really dim now.
    You can't game on an oled with dimming.

  • @CASHJOEYY
    @CASHJOEYY Рік тому

    Waiting on your c3 & G3 reviews thanks for the helpful videos keep ‘em coming

  • @andrewcross5918
    @andrewcross5918 Рік тому +2

    That might be a deal breaker for my plan to go with a G3. S95C may be the way I go but I will be waiting for full reviews that go over this.

  • @carlosh9476
    @carlosh9476 Рік тому +3

    As an owner of a Sony A80J who plays games, ABL is definitely the only thing I absolutely hate about the TV. I wouldn’t get another OLED if I couldn’t turn this off and just take the risk (which is at least lower on recent sets).

  • @juansmeeth
    @juansmeeth Рік тому +51

    Why do LG keep cripping or removing feature from the sets? First they hobble BFI, now they force you to accept auto dimming. As someone who's still waiting for his plasma to die before replacing it with an OLED, this is making me hope it holds on for many more years...

    • @gbej1
      @gbej1 Рік тому +3

      All the brands do the exact same thing

    • @geoffreybassett6741
      @geoffreybassett6741 Рік тому

      @@gbej1 Not anywhere near as aggressively.

    • @MistyKathrine
      @MistyKathrine Рік тому

      Just grab a C1 series OLED.

    • @Tiagocouto12
      @Tiagocouto12 Рік тому +1

      Wait for microled, I still have an LCD and I’m waiting too :b

    • @AusOpening
      @AusOpening Рік тому +1

      @@Tiagocouto12 not for another 5 year until it’s even feasibly affordable

  • @Jedi2016
    @Jedi2016 Рік тому +5

    I hope there's another way to do it that we just haven't found yet. I didn't make the change when I first got my C1, but after I noticed the dimming for the first time, I did it right then and there.

    • @JackBusiness89
      @JackBusiness89 Рік тому

      I have the 77" C1 as well and I haven't had that big of an issue with the brightness but I have the one with the WBE or G1 panel. I didn't change anything in the service menu hell I didn't even access it at all and it's noticeably brighter than my buddies C1 guess I got lucky with the panel lottery! 😃

    • @vitiok78
      @vitiok78 Рік тому +3

      ​@@JackBusiness89 Just watch those movies mentioned in the video in HDR or Dolby Vision and you will see

  • @FakeShempz
    @FakeShempz Рік тому

    Looking forward to your thorough test of the G3/C3 when you have a unit. The auto-dimming issues caused by ASBL/GSR....etc are possibly going to put me off investing in a G3 if they cannot be turned off in the service menu.

  • @RminusOR
    @RminusOR Рік тому +78

    This should be alarming for anyone who already has a C2 as well. They could just push an update at any time taking away this option, which is more likely now that they already have a webos build without
    I'll definitely read up on any updates that will be coming for my C2 going forward (should be doing that anyways)

    • @daviddries8676
      @daviddries8676 Рік тому +11

      Good point, thanks for the tip. Going to turn off auto updates now

    • @MrlspPrt
      @MrlspPrt Рік тому +10

      Samsung be like: you could not live with your own success, where did that bring you? Back to me.

    • @Piasecznik72
      @Piasecznik72 Рік тому +9

      @@MrlspPrt I hate Samsung for taking away funtionality from my TV. It is like thievery. Bought TV with camera built in, 3D capabilities etc and now they are gone.

    • @malazan6004
      @malazan6004 Рік тому +7

      C2 lost 120hz bfi and now c3 loses that AND this... Wish they would stop removing stuff!!

    • @MrlspPrt
      @MrlspPrt Рік тому +1

      ​@@Piasecznik72 and LG is following their same path, but I guess not even a lawsuit is available since their EULAs are generally made thinking on this scenarios.

  • @PierreLeroy76620
    @PierreLeroy76620 Рік тому

    I love your deep dive. It's really great!
    Maybe you could do some work around projector too... ❤️

  • @coveiromaldito7798
    @coveiromaldito7798 Рік тому +1

    Hey Vincent. What's the best oled tv to buy in 2023 ? I've a CX and i was very satisfied with this tv though. I want to make an update this year . Which are do you suggest?

  • @Datenschutz_Datenschutz
    @Datenschutz_Datenschutz Рік тому +6

    Thank you for your content 👍

  • @Xevorg.
    @Xevorg. Рік тому +1

    I don’t know, I deliberately switched the image after playing with the interface and returned back - I didn’t see any difference in brightness. I use OLED CX, I didn’t climb into the service menu at all

  • @SheikhRZTalukder
    @SheikhRZTalukder Рік тому +5

    Lol I love that you used the No Fap joke again 🤣🤣

  • @zaftra
    @zaftra 5 місяців тому +30

    I always find these things AFTER ordering one.

    • @SNMG7664
      @SNMG7664 4 місяці тому

      I was going to buy one in a couple weeks. I don't currently have a TV and was looking to get one right as the C4 was incoming and the prices started dropping. With this though I am not sure I want one

    • @zaftra
      @zaftra 4 місяці тому

      @@SNMG7664 In your case then go for it, at it's best it looks like you can touch the people.

    • @hesow123
      @hesow123 3 місяці тому +1

      Me too I just order c3 hours ago

    • @zaftra
      @zaftra 3 місяці тому

      @@hesow123 it's been great

    • @EL_N0IR_2201
      @EL_N0IR_2201 3 місяці тому

      that's why you should always research BEFORE hand! it will save you lots of headaches trust my advice.

  • @saint6563
    @saint6563 Рік тому +2

    Simply the best.
    Even though the display looks great & measurers well, it's Vincent's deep dive that revel it's limitations.

  • @UnitedRedDevil13
    @UnitedRedDevil13 Рік тому +6

    Is there any update or info on disabling tpc or gsr on the c3?

  • @jrm523
    @jrm523 Рік тому +5

    As someone who purchased a G3, this is infuriating. If you own the tv, you should be able to do what you want with it. If LG is concerned, then they just need to invalidate warranty claims for people who disable auto dimming. I just cant believe we are in 2023 and are still wrestling with auto-dimming. I have not had much time with my tv but truly hope they have resolved the prior issues with it.

  • @watchtvatmyplace6691
    @watchtvatmyplace6691 Рік тому +1

    😢 because of these video's i got a service remote to set tpc to of and it made a world of difference 😄. My Cx looks like new now 😀

  • @bwellington3001
    @bwellington3001 Рік тому +1

    Is there a way to permamently disable TCP on Philips? I have OLED 803 from 2018, there is a service menu with Oled TPC setting, but it restores each time you turn off the tv. A minor inconvinience but still.

  • @BusterDarcy
    @BusterDarcy Рік тому

    Wow I was so close to getting the C2, had no idea about this dimming issue and haven’t seen any mention of it from any of the other channels singing it’s praises. Thanks for the heads up!

    • @Donking508
      @Donking508 Рік тому +1

      You mean the C3? You can turn off the default auto dimming on the C2 in the service menu.

    • @BusterDarcy
      @BusterDarcy Рік тому

      @@Donking508 C2 since I’m unlikely to order a special remote online just to disable one setting.

    • @eldritchtoilets210
      @eldritchtoilets210 Рік тому

      ​@@BusterDarcythere's a hack you can use to get into that menu, using the TV's browser to reach a website that allows you to access the menu where GSR and APL can be disabled. That's how I did it. You don't need the service cpnstrol remote.

  • @PacHunter80
    @PacHunter80 Рік тому +1

    Looking for help on LG G3 -When I go into the LG g3 sound, I set up wired speaker eARC pass through. When I turn off the tv, the tv defaults back to the internal speakers. Each time I turn the tv on, i have to go into the audio setting and redo everything. I’m coming from an LG c9 same set up but never had this issue. All HDMI cables are high quality. After I set it up, it works. But I have to redo it every time.
    Set up hdmi1 ps5
    Hdmi2 eARC
    Hdmi3 Xbox
    And I use Apple TV
    Sent from my iPhone

  • @HiCZoK
    @HiCZoK Рік тому +2

    can you explain. I have c1. If I disable TPC and GSR, do I still need to disable logo luminance in osd or leave it on low ?

  • @mxavi3734
    @mxavi3734 Рік тому +3

    100% A Dealbreaker. I was looking to upgrade to a G3 from a C2 editing monitor. That will likely be the last LG TV I ever buy it seems.

  • @victorbonilla2150
    @victorbonilla2150 Рік тому

    Thanks so much for the useful service remote info, but where can we find the 4 digit code needed to access the service menu?

  • @FearGodBeStillMySoul
    @FearGodBeStillMySoul Рік тому

    I currently have the LG C2 and would like to disable the TPC, have you provided the link for the service remote and the 4 digit service code for the C2? I would greatly appreciate if you can provide both please. Thank you 🙏

  • @helioshelios2177
    @helioshelios2177 Рік тому

    Hi. Could you please help with how to open the factory setting for my LG Nano cell 4k TV as I have a serious issue with colors that could not need fixed from the color menu. Thanks

  • @zenyu94
    @zenyu94 Рік тому +66

    this is one of the deal breakers for OLEDs in general, I honestly don't know why manufacturers haven't figured out a sweet spot for the TPC algorithm after 10 years of OLED TVs on the market

    • @cajampa
      @cajampa Рік тому +6

      And it is not even needed. I disabled the TPC on my 2015 model when i got it
      And i h have been using it as an monitor with crazy hours on it since then with zero burn in.
      Just don't run it on max OLED light 24/7, don't let it get to hot and use basic burn in strategies like screen savers and dark mode in apps.
      Without TPC off no scene is stable and your calibration is pretty much useless.
      And the strict ABL on the OLED already males the calibration less than stable.
      But with TPC on it gets so dark you don't see anything.
      It is pretty much unusable and jarring to see it just dim whenever SO MUCH.

    • @semahj
      @semahj Рік тому +1

      @@cajampa honestly that’s a lot of work compared to a LED I like max brightness

    • @cajampa
      @cajampa Рік тому +10

      @@semahj Honestly that is a very small price to pay for FAR superior picture quality. Using a shitty LCD panel in anything after getting used to perfect inky blacks and infinite contrast of the OLED is a struggle, it just looks so incredible bad when you know how an OLED screen can display content. Also, I have never even been close to wanting more light output anyway. Why blast your eyes with more damaging blue light than necessary.

    • @LiquidusSnake
      @LiquidusSnake Рік тому +2

      @@cajampa just because you can't recognize burn-in doesn't mean you don't have it. all OLEDs will get burn-in, and all of them have burn-in to a certain degree. that's how OLEDs work, each LED is alive and has its own life span, so it dies at a different rate compared to its neighbors. that's what burn in is.

    • @wakaflockaproject
      @wakaflockaproject Рік тому +2

      @@cajampa exactly the Panasonic plasma is even enough for me

  • @khomichuk
    @khomichuk Рік тому

    Was really looking towards purchasing 2023 G3 model , but now I have doubts. Really need to wait until some reviews of this year's G3's to decide if it's still good decision.

  • @vasudevmenon2496
    @vasudevmenon2496 Рік тому

    I thought something happened to Vincent while explaining TPC. LG needs to add those options to advanced settings for both consumers and commercials. It is sad if LG disabled the current hackable methods of c2 models

  • @definingslawek4731
    @definingslawek4731 6 місяців тому

    I entered the factory remote menu on my brand new C3 and tpc and gsr were both OFF by default, but 'dimming' in the other menu was on.

  • @rolandrohde
    @rolandrohde Рік тому

    I have been noticing this weird dimming on my LG CX for years now but never turned it off.
    When buying a new TV I would try to get one that doesn't do this, but am unsure. If Samsung QD Oleds also have this and LG still does...that would leave LED TVs, but I am not sure I could go back to backlight issues and all that...

  • @mathewphillips4185
    @mathewphillips4185 Рік тому

    So with this issue and I want to upgrade my C1 to something new, what would you recommend for 2023 65-in TV?

  • @gertost
    @gertost Рік тому

    So you neee that control to turn it off? But what about burn in risk? I have an lg 65 c2. Is it worth ordering that control and turn off the dimming? Or could it damage my tv. I use my tv mostly for tv channels,movies/series and youtube. Not so much sports and gaming.

  • @gertost
    @gertost Рік тому +8

    Would love to know it the burn in risk is much higher with these settings off. Or if its worth having them off.

    • @ge2719
      @ge2719 Рік тому +1

      ifthe tech is anything like the oled switch, then as wulf dens test shows, you have to leave the thing on a static image none stop for over a year to notice any burn in, and even then its slight.

  • @markel208
    @markel208 8 місяців тому +3

    I need little help lads, don't know what buy, LG C3 or LG G2 ???
    Thank You for help!!

  • @jdejesus0017
    @jdejesus0017 Рік тому

    Quick question. Base on how much you know of the industry do you think there will ever be another 97" G class or C class model. Or do you think the G2 97" was a one of?

  • @janinel2356
    @janinel2356 Рік тому

    Does any know if the C3 and G3 are HDCP 2.2 or 2.3? The C2/G2 were 2.2 but I can't find the specs for the newer models. Thanks!

  • @mosey4650
    @mosey4650 Рік тому +1

    if thye have disabled the feature in C3, will they noit just disable the feature on C2 via firmware update ?

  • @asfakhri
    @asfakhri Рік тому +52

    LG just made it easier to move to Sony's QD-OLED as your next TV lol thanks LG

    • @FractalPrism.
      @FractalPrism. Рік тому +4

      sony tends to lie abt the actual specs of their products DO NOT BUY A SONY TV
      i had the recent sony oled and they claimed it was 4k 120hz, but with both settings on the entire image was blurry and text was hard to read
      they claimed "just put it in 60hz mode or put it in 1080p resolution". Well that would make it NOT a 4k 120hz tv. there is no fix. the lied to my face over and over.
      sony did everything they could to refuse acknowledging the issue was real and dragged their feet to fix the problem, eventually i got 100% of my money back

    • @fancyson0
      @fancyson0 Рік тому +6

      @@FractalPrism. great story

    • @duke62778
      @duke62778 Рік тому

      ​@@FractalPrism. Movie industry uses 60hrtz for their movies so may that's why.

    • @schmockyyyyyyy
      @schmockyyyyyyy Рік тому

      ​@@FractalPrism. when it has hdmi 2.1 they have the lizence and are allowed to say its 4k120hz even if its not sams shait with hdr specs all merketing lies but they gwet away with it

    • @mukti7485
      @mukti7485 Рік тому +1

      Sony crap 😂

  • @brokenwrench404
    @brokenwrench404 Рік тому +3

    Did you ask if they just blocked that from being accessible during the show?

  • @MacikHU
    @MacikHU Рік тому

    there is a Dimming On/Off setting in the service menu in the new 3.30.67 firmware of the C2. Do we know what that does exactly?
    3.30.68 is also available now

  • @ong55663
    @ong55663 Рік тому +3

    Do Panasonic’s OLED TV has this problem?

  • @kalverstukas1414
    @kalverstukas1414 Рік тому +8

    Dear Vincent, please make a comprehensive guide for TPC turning off for all major OLED TV brands, please 👏

  • @shugaroony
    @shugaroony Рік тому

    I bought mine a few months back and have yet to set it up. If I don't connect the tv to the internet, will it keep its default settings?

  • @JaytheP
    @JaytheP Рік тому +42

    Oh no, I only lasted 1 week on my C1 before I had to disable TPC and GSR. I hope there’s a way to still disable them 😢

    • @reviewforthetube6485
      @reviewforthetube6485 Рік тому +9

      Well keep in mind the g3 is gonna be alot brighter ans the c3 need to realize they are pushing these brighter snd brighter so they need to put in safety features or those warranties they now offer are going to be used way to much lol

    • @SLICK8116
      @SLICK8116 Рік тому +3

      Youll live😂

    • @SomeUserNameBlahBlah
      @SomeUserNameBlahBlah Рік тому +6

      @@reviewforthetube6485 That was my first thought. LG is pushing brightness so far to compete with QD-OLED that the TVs are already on the verge of failing.

    • @reviewforthetube6485
      @reviewforthetube6485 Рік тому +2

      @@SomeUserNameBlahBlah yep agreed but there is still an agenda out there so regardless of how good or not good they sre. They will always be backed lg is way to good at promoting there tvs and getting every reviewer I'm the book.

    • @JackBusiness89
      @JackBusiness89 Рік тому +1

      @@reviewforthetube6485 LG is great because the employees at LG Display create such amazing panels. They're not paying reviewers or plotting some evil agenda to screw the consumers. LG is the forerunner of OLED. Liike one commenter said, they're putting in these safely measures for a reason and that reason is to PROTECT THE CONSUMER. That is the primary reason not because they're afraid of replacing TVs through warranty. Nobody wants to pay a thousand dollars+ then wait 3 weeks for LG to fix the issue. What they just did is akin to a responsible parent making sure the gun is hidden and locked away so they can't hurt themselves.

  • @josephnorris4095
    @josephnorris4095 Рік тому +7

    I have to admit, the thought has just occurred to me, what is to stop them from pushing out an update which disables this ability in our C1 and C2s?

  • @HeraBros07
    @HeraBros07 Рік тому

    I noticed the service remote is available for purchase, however, the passcode that is required to get the service menu on the TV, is that provided with the purchase of the remote?
    My LG OLED E6 (still working fine) does in fact do this auto dimming when watching dark scenes in media content and drives me nuts and never knew that this was occurring cause the enabled "feature". A response will be greatly appreciated.
    Love your deep dives on HDTVs!

  • @sanilsarang8643
    @sanilsarang8643 6 місяців тому

    Thank you! That also explains why A80l is darker

  • @user-nm5jk9eb7v
    @user-nm5jk9eb7v Рік тому

    Doesn't the recent firmware update for LG OLED TVs for c1 and c2 change this menu as well, making it impossible to change these parameters?

  • @kurojack6874
    @kurojack6874 Рік тому +33

    Between Sony and LG this year I may just take up reading.

  • @hrod9393
    @hrod9393 Рік тому +5

    This news further confirms my good decision in getting a non OLED monitor Samsung G8 over a OLED TV to be used as a gaming and desktop monitor. No worries about burn in and dimming protocols.

  • @7iesto
    @7iesto Рік тому

    Hi ,Would it be possible to do a test with an A80j ? why ? To see how the technology has developed and whether LG has caught up with the processor. That would certainly interest many

  • @samuraisqrrl
    @samuraisqrrl Рік тому

    Is TPC also more aggressive on larger screens? I feel like I notice it way more on my 77 than on my 55

  • @romeovoid
    @romeovoid Рік тому

    I too was going to pull the trigger on the C3, I just love the inky oled blacks, but not having full control over auto-dimming (and no ATSC at that price) is a deal breaker. I think I'll get the TCL QM8 and save a thousand dollars.

    • @thanksbetotap
      @thanksbetotap 7 місяців тому +1

      LG fixed the issue shortly after Vincent released this video.

  • @RicardoVillamar
    @RicardoVillamar 3 місяці тому +3

    I bought the C3 two days ago and DV looks significantly darker compared to my older C1, or even my CX. Try playing “Ozark” and then you’ll see that Marty’s face looks so dark you can’t even see details on the right side of his face when he’s taking to the clients (first episode). And the clients also look really dark. I’ve made sure all the power saving settings are off, and all the extra settings to “brighten” the picture are on and nothing. Same result. So frustrating. Any one else has noticed something similar?

    •  3 місяці тому

      The same for me.
      Bought c3 42” and everything is dark.
      Warning: not access with “new method” service menu because the settings will reset when you reboot the tv.
      Hope that launch another update with better brightness control.
      Everything is darker here, my b9 is 1000x better.
      Just paid 1000u$ for c3 42” (Brasil) and very disappointed.

  • @visceralpsyche
    @visceralpsyche Рік тому +20

    I'm a colourist and I was really looking forward to upgrading my CX to a G3 for the heatsink and true 1000 nit brightness capability. Guess I'll have to look elsewhere.... another sale lost (actually two, since I was also going to buy one for home use). Hope LG reverses this and publicizes that fact. Thanks for the heads up Vincent!

    • @definingslawek4731
      @definingslawek4731 6 місяців тому

      What did you go with?

    • @visceralpsyche
      @visceralpsyche 6 місяців тому

      @@definingslawek4731 I decided to stick with my CX for now. I've read a couple of solution hacks to the G3 but I'd rather let the dust settle and get one when the hack is known and simple.

    • @RedPillAlways
      @RedPillAlways Місяць тому

      LG don't care cause we are the Minority

    • @LukeR1M
      @LukeR1M 6 днів тому

      So which TV did you choose?

    • @visceralpsyche
      @visceralpsyche 6 днів тому +1

      @@LukeR1M Still using my CX at present!

  • @juanblanco7898
    @juanblanco7898 8 місяців тому

    Is possible to do hardware calibration for the Game Optimiser picture mode via the CalMan software or manual adjustments (White Balance 10 Point or 22 Point is what concerns me the most) in the picture mode settings or even service menu?
    I'd be extremely grateful if someone could confirm that.

  • @ianhill20101
    @ianhill20101 6 місяців тому

    Got a g3 on sale and happy with it never seen dimming because i dont put it max brightness, my eyes are for life dont fancy wearing shades indoors

  • @dane4652
    @dane4652 Рік тому +2

    Does the warranty become void if you turn off tcp or change any of the service menu options? I would really appreciate it if anyone could answer this. Also, does the g2 allow in the service menu to turn off auto dimming?

  • @MrCchard27
    @MrCchard27 Рік тому +3

    Is there an increased risk of burn in if I disable TPL on my LG CX? While it will improve Dolby Vision / HDR viewing, do I need to be more careful with static images or SDR viewing?

    • @eternalbeing3339
      @eternalbeing3339 Рік тому

      No. Just disable it, you will realize what you have been missing.

    • @funkaholic1972
      @funkaholic1972 Рік тому

      @@eternalbeing3339 Cool!! How long have you had it disabled now?

  • @keeloraz9452
    @keeloraz9452 Рік тому +2

    Just looking forward to comparaison between Samsung S95C to Song A95L

  • @meexperience7144
    @meexperience7144 Рік тому

    What is the passcode? And does turning TPC off ruin the LG warranty?

  • @liquidsunshine697
    @liquidsunshine697 Рік тому

    Have had my LG C1 for 9 months with 3600+ hours. Only noticed the TPC dimming in the first few months. Since I've never noticed. But recently changed TPC and GSR off. Just in case lol

  • @gamophyte
    @gamophyte 2 місяці тому

    was doing research on the C3, was this walked back? I saw a newer video that never even mentioning the auto dimming issue? Thanks!

  • @lester_s22
    @lester_s22 Рік тому +4

    Then it is much more difficult to do colour calibration on G3, that's really bad.

  • @toddpeterson5904
    @toddpeterson5904 Рік тому +2

    This is quite unfortunate. I have a C2, but that also has an issue because Calman Home for LG doesn't work with the C2's internal pattern generator. So three of my LG OLEDs are C1's so I can calibrate and change the TPC settings. Seems that I will need to look for a new OLED vendor.

    • @raymondzrike2085
      @raymondzrike2085 Рік тому

      The internal pattern generator doesn’t work on C2? Works on my CX. That’s unfortunate if true. I wonder what oled will be the easiest to calibrate now?

    • @toddpeterson5904
      @toddpeterson5904 Рік тому

      @@raymondzrike2085 Since the C2's introduction the iTPG hasn't worked until just recently with a new firmware update. Portrait Displays has not updated their Calman software to work correctly with the C2. Timelines for the LG firmware and Calman software have been constantly delayed for a year. Who knows when Calman will be working. Hopefully soon, but I'm not counting on it.
      Seems like a missed opportunity to me. LG is not Flanders Scientific, so getting their displays into the hands of professional users is a big opportunity. Neglecting firmware, blocking settings, etc. is a bad move, even if you can sell a small number to Hollywood. There are 100x as many people who are film hobbyists, independent filmmakers, corporate, freelance, music video, etc. that are not part of the Hollywood industry.

  • @matusvachula8248
    @matusvachula8248 Рік тому +1

    Hi guys, I just like to ask you for help. Last month I bought SONY 55A83J good price ,screen was perfect, overall great tv. But yesterday when we were watching some football match tv crush down and from that day tv is not working. Whet I turn on tv, screen is black just red led blinking 5 times. I tried to do factory reset by just holding one button behind the tv. But it did not help. Maybe I have done that wrong. That ´s why I am writing this comment. And I am asking for help. Thank you guys

  • @Warfalcon
    @Warfalcon Рік тому +1

    If I hear anything negative about the dimming on C3 I'm out. I cannot stand it on my LG C2. I just bought that remote. Turning it off for good this weekend.

  • @TheAuriconGroup
    @TheAuriconGroup Рік тому

    Is it now possible to disable auto dimming on the 2023, 55 inch LG OLED EVO G3? I do not want to buy it unless a firmware update will let me disable auto dimming. Please let me know. Thank you very much. Jack in Oregon USA.

  • @ilVice
    @ilVice Рік тому

    Ok, that may explain a lot of things. So how do you turn them off on CX?

  • @cemsengul16
    @cemsengul16 11 місяців тому

    You can still disable TPC on the updated G3 but I think that would jeopardize your 5 year panel warranty.

  • @KaLaka16
    @KaLaka16 Рік тому

    Thanks for this video. I'll buy the C2. The information in this video was the difference between buying the C2 or the C3 for me.

  • @BSEUNHIR
    @BSEUNHIR Рік тому +8

    So, they have a completely broken feature, making the display useless for a large amount of content.... and then remove the workaround?
    Good job LG

    • @brianjacox7651
      @brianjacox7651 Рік тому

      How do we know it isn't fixed in these models?

  • @robertbailey2008
    @robertbailey2008 16 днів тому +1

    I need help as the C4 has a different Service menu and I can't find these settings.

  • @akaChriss4L
    @akaChriss4L Рік тому +1

    Honestly what’s new on C3 compared to C2 65 inch TV?

  • @cippolaus
    @cippolaus Місяць тому

    excuse me the question but disabling those 3 setting you increase the risk of oled burning? (however it seems that someone has found the way to disable all those 3 settings on C3/G3 )

  • @fortuneo4303
    @fortuneo4303 Рік тому

    I will go for LG C2 thanks for letting me know this

  • @lovingGodeveryday
    @lovingGodeveryday Рік тому +1

    My question here is it advisable to disabled the TCP?

  • @Face83Time
    @Face83Time Рік тому +5

    Maybe the 2023 Oled don't work that aggressively? Maybe LG has learned and you no longer need the disable function? I'm curious what your tests will say, especially in the House of Dragon scene.

    • @whitecrowuk575
      @whitecrowuk575 Рік тому

      It’s a possibility I guess. I’m running my E9 in vivid 8h a day for past nearly 4 years and no burn in. But I don’t have any static logos present (streaming only).

    • @LEMON48
      @LEMON48 Рік тому

  • @patrickknapp4588
    @patrickknapp4588 Рік тому

    Vince when will you get the LG Oled G3 to test?

  • @TheManCaveMike
    @TheManCaveMike Рік тому +4

    I got my LG C2 yesterday. LOVE IT

    • @Lcss1
      @Lcss1 Рік тому

      did you disabled TPC ?

    • @TheManCaveMike
      @TheManCaveMike Рік тому

      @@Lcss1 Dont recall, I ended up returning it and 2 others due to a flickering issue, 120hz + gsync + vrr +hdr causes flickering, tried many different cables, so did the local best buy. I gave up, settled for the gigabyte M28U and saved the rest for the future release of the rtx 5080 ti

  • @Mojkanal1234
    @Mojkanal1234 Рік тому

    If the Logo dimming is on high does GSR still activate? If so that's a big yikes.

  • @BrandonTisor
    @BrandonTisor Рік тому

    Well, looks like my next TV won't be an LG... I absolutely hate the crappy auto dimming on the LG OLEDs, so if it's unable to be disabled that really sucks.

  • @chunghui8586
    @chunghui8586 Рік тому +1

    I totally agree that LG tends to excel with their second-generation products, but often disappoint with their third-generation releases, such as the LG G2 and LG G3 phones.

    • @xtlm
      @xtlm Рік тому

      But their last phone the V60 was actually quite awesome. I have no idea what gen that was though lol