Steroids has a lot of benefits, particularly for muscle recovery and strength. Personally, as an athlete I use anabolic steroids to speed up recovery from intense training or injuries. They also really help in rebuilding muscle tissue and enhancing performance.
Test Enan is commonly used in hormone replacement therapy to address low testosterone levels, promoting muscle growth and improving overall well-being. Tren, on the other hand, greatly enhances muscle size and strength. Speeds up recovery from injuries as well.
Totally agree. Steroids helped me recover faster and maintain muscle mass, especially during intense training or after injury. It's amazing how they can support bone health as well, which is crucial for people with conditions like osteoporosis.
There’s no doubt to the benefits of steroids. Honestly, it has greatly impacted my life. It played a major role in achieving my desired physique. People should learn not to abuse these substances and act like they are all bad.
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When I was on Tren Ace, I went to the movie cinemas and had to walk out with in 15 minutes with fiery rage. The sound of other people eating their popcorn and chips drove me insane, I was close to snapping. I went home had a protein shake , took some Valium and went to sleep 😂😂😂 As much as I loved the results from Tren, I’m an endurance cardio junkie.. for that reason I probably won’t try it again anytime soon..
Last time I ran Tren a guy flicked me off. I did a U turn , found him at a red light and jumped on the hood of his car like King Kong. The fear in that guys eyes
@@Joelssarmsgotta love dudes like this. As if no bodybuilder has ever learned to box, and who tf actually cares. This is America, ANYONE can buy a gun
I ran tren years ago. First dose, my chest got real tight. Couldn't stop coughing. Felt like my heart was about to blow out. Very scary! Not scary enough apparently because I kept using it but when that cycle was over, never used it again. Tren could make Ben Shapiro feel like he's Connor McGregor.
@@Stoic1976 if you can try cutting down on carbs close to bedtime. Tren has a bad habit of metabolizing carbs extremely well and that produces heat. The other side of the coin is it can make you go hypo glycemic very easily if you don’t watch your diet. If you are on trend and you chug a bunch of grape juice for example, it will put you on the floor.
TNT 400 (200mg Test & 200mg Tren) is really all you need. Any more & the sides are just too much to handle. Tren under 200, you're pretty much a superhero. Tren over 200, you literally feel like a super villain, mentally.
Imo 100mg of tren ace is all you need with your test. At that dose the sides aren't too bad and it's still extremely potent. The dosage given to cattle is 200mg/week. As someone with naturally high metabolism when I used tren I think the highest I ever went was 200/week and I quickly went back down to like 120-150mg/week after experiencing the increase in side effects. I wasn't even eating enough to keep up with the power of 120mg tren/week on top of deca and 500 test. If I ever use tren again I'm gonna use 50mg/week and maybe go up to 75 if I feel like it's worth it.
Body temp increase, u sweat a lot easier. Especially in your sleep. Which also adds to the basic insomnia. Then there’s increased irritation and paranoia, which some people deal with better than others, but it’s there. But the benefits are like magic.
@@jaredboyd2957 Enanthate seems to be easier to deal with, probably bc it doesn’t peak so hard. Acetate seems stronger but u gotta pin more often and with more volume. I tried A first and it sneaks up on you.
@@z72248 I've heard that some people handle tren e better. But if you take too much or don't like how it makes you feel you're in for feeling that way for a solid month after stopping tren e. So people should keep that in mind. If someone is going to try tren I'd recommend starting with ace at 50-75mg/week. Then see how they feel after two weeks or so. That dose might sound low compared to what most people are taking but most people are using way more than necessary and can get great results off 75/week.
@@WolfgangN.2 THIS! Test E for overal tolerance. Also you save yourself from injections. First time goers should bite the bullet and keep the dose low for a while as it makes it way to your system. Then slowly but surely MAYBE increase it ever so slightly if you don't see results. I would go ACE, as the results are super fast and you notice strength increases like lightning. But it almost like getting attacked immediately like rabid animals all at once with the side effects. Double-edged sword.
That depends on genetics. If you're naturally elevated in reactive aggression, steroids and related compounds will make you very disagreeable and potentially even violent. If you're naturally low in reactive aggression you'll become more aggressive but not excessively aggressive. It could even be a bonus for people who are low in aggression to become more aggressive, as aggression can be channelled into ambition and productivity.
Tren didn't do anything to me, I think people that are assholes use the tren excuse to be bigger assholes. Or "roid rage" just because they are idiots who think that just because have some muscle think they can scare other people. All I got was more strength and bigger muscles. I was taking little doses. I decided to stop because I decided to stay healthy
I 100% believe this in the end. It has to be. First of all, there are alot of nice and humble bodybuilders out there. But there ARE a ton of a-hole gym bros as well. These people already have deep insecurities and (not saying this as a blanket statement to gym goers, I am a weightlifter myself) alot of people will attempt to fix this mental insecurity by growing bigger muscles in attempt to be more superior or imposing physically. So these people with insecurities that are assholes go INTO Tren already with a "defect" and the steroid with bring out all of that insecurity for the world to see. You see the strength and muscles from the drug and you get a god complex almost which is part of the rage and asshole behavior. I would love to see an actual psychologist Bodybuilder that DOES steroids to study on this. Because I think it would change the way we view this particular drug and roid rage in general.
Dude so many people need to read comments like this because their is an obvious pattern. Dosages less than 300mg combined with higher test are very doable if you play the cards right and the results are awesome! All the morons going wild on tren are always blasting 400+ mg a week its always the same!
I've never done steroids but I'm a recovering recreation stimulant addict and alcoholic (I've fried my heart enough to put big time steroid use off the table). Anyway I'm shocked at how similar the psychological effects of Tren are to crystal methamphetamine. Super sex drive combined with paranoia. God damn fking nightmare so happy I got clean.
LOL i am not an addict but ran tren and let me tell you, there was a helicptor hovering over my house the entire time i was on tren and everyone was watching me! I swear.
Wow, you are one of the lucky ones, many drugs have such small recovery percentages! I don't know you personally but I'm proud of you for conquering that beast! You probably hear it way to often but what you did was probably one of the hardest things anyone can ever do! You are Bad Ass my friend, keep kicking its ass! You are way stronger than that drug!
Tren does make you paranoid and think your girl is cheating on you. But my gf actually was cheating on me lol wouldn’t have found out without the Tren paranoia
Tren would throw me into a panic attack! Even before the dart was emptied, I would feel this rush throughout my body, and would literally have to just lay on the floor and wait for it to pass! Scary shit!
Back in 2000 we’d buy the tren pellets from veterinarian site. They made a conversion kit you could buy online. Made 60mls of tren ace 💀🤣. Lost a few gfs while on tren 😯. Wish I was in my twenties still.
@@Psupower250u could get the pellets 2yrs ago from Amazon even could get 4,000mg pellets for a while. I made 1,000mg a ml gained 30lbs felt like I could pick up a car angry all the time.
I'm doing sustanon and getting great results and I'm in my 40s and it made me lean out little bit definitely not like tren but it works.people getting a lot of side effects is definitely abusing it and alot is based on clean diet.
@@ADCC-qp2gk Yeah, lots of cat women trying to stay fertile probably -- ha ha! I'd add Metformin too ... TRT/HCG/Metformin -- the trifecta of goodness.
@@chadferreira6799 I've heard of it and searched for it yes, but never got my hands on anything else but dbol and the previous, heard it's good but harsh.
I literally tried everything before Tren. I finally am on my first Tren Ace now. Super low dose though but really makes a difference. I am currently on what 100 mg a week. Took one week to start seeing changes. But that shit will absolutely wig you out bro. One mine you're in love, next minute you're about to fight a crowd of people next minute a song comes on the radio and you tear up. Sheesh. The shit is nuts. Lol
Im on tren now im taking 300 mg of tren E a week and i dont get the feeling of wanting to fight people r any rage but im much stronger and leaner my chest and delts got that full look i don't get the night sweats but i do get the tightness in my chest and hard to breathe feeling and the bad dreams but this stuff definitely works
I think we differ on the definition of “works”. To me natural is the only way. Strength of mind, spirit and body. Discipline, sacrifice, constance, good nutrition, meditation, books. That’s what works.
I am so surprised seeing all this about tren and I believe it 💯. But it doesn’t not work for me like that. I get all the benefits but fuck i dont feel any aggression or any rage. Its fuck smooth as primo like for me and i am still scare to take it to next level. Will be always 200gm per week with test 300mg and i am throwing some primo 100 mg. Fucking amazing shit for me.
Yea, definitaly the sides hit different for everyone. You know what sux for me, is I took Superdrol with Test and got NONE of the dreadful sides that Dbol and Anadrol and Tbol give me (headache, nausea, BACK PUMPS, my god the back pumps). It was great, and I actually saw gains, without even trying. The only side I got was a giant spike in blood pressure, and I was already taking some bp meds to counter the steroids. Superdrol would have been my go-to oral of all time, because it did its job amazingly. But unfortunately the bp and of course live toxicity make it so I have to plan my superdrol blast cycles. So everyone gets good results and some don't. Its different for everyone for sure.
I think age and experience has a lot to do with it too, more than we give it credit. I ran Tren a lot over almost 15 yrs. In my 20s, yeah I was irritable, fight mode, gfs pissed you off, parents pissed you off, road rage roid rage, etc. In my late 30s things were much diff. I ran Tren a lot by this time, and hefty doses every cycle. At that age, life’s doing good, career is good, muscle memory and muscle maturity is getting better year by year. I don’t even really get mad, unless it’s seriously big deal. Oh and I don’t have a wife or gf by choice too which makes shit 100 times better not having a nagging vagina near you 24/7. Your girl can’t piss you off if you don’t have a girl 🤘🏽
💯💯💯💯💯💯. I ran tren in my 20s and always caused me problems with my girls(plural) 😂 and at work. I’m 31 and single now running my own business and it’s fucking great. Bit worried about my hairline but the pumps are unbeatable 😂😂
The only issues I ever had on Tren was was vivid horrible nightmares. Bro the scariest dream’s possible but I couldn’t wake up. Actually I remember at the time it was kinda cool got lean and strong AF. 10/10 would recommend
I didn't experience the cough, but you would notice almost a supression of breathing sometimes. You feel the stress on your lungs.....but does it work as expected.....if you stack it with a little test and don't go overboard....yea it works. 😂 when you're off though it's going to suck losing about 80% of it.
@jahvooz2971 i was on for 4 weeks. Strength went through the roof but I don't have the best body type where tren really shines. I put on weight years ago that I'm trying to get off. I wasn't a fan of doing injections every other day either
@MarylandGuy-ey3st I did run test as well. I got strong aF but stopped after a month. My aggression went through the roof, and I don't like that. Every other day, injections sucks too. That was a major chore. I think I'm going to stick to trt and that's it. I can't imagine the amount of damage all these compounds are doing to my body
First time I ever took tren was tren enanthate and I got every side effect going lol hard to breath like breathing through a straw , severe heart burn , anger through the roof , high anxiety , stomach cramps, insomnia , paranoia, but strength went through the roof , roid rage . Took tren ace after a while after having break and was fine , went back too tren enwnthate years later and I was fine was the first run , also yes libido goes sky high but gets too much after a while
That's imo a pretty mild cycle. 300 is low dose test. The 200 Tren is not low dose, but pretty normal/intermediate. 50mg Anavar is a normal dose. Overall I'd probably call it not novice, but on the end of novice beginning of intermediate. You've got a light test base, a light oral, & Tren at a proper dose. I definitely wouldn't tell somebody to run this in their first few cycles because of the Tren.
The compounds are every 3rd day btw. That was important to add. This is my cruising dose. I cycle off the var in the winter. Ive done my share of 1000mg of test with other supplemental compounds and find that this combo works for me.. im able to maintain 10% bf shredded as hell 6,1 190lbs.. the one downside is stamina while on the tren.. blood pressure is a little high and you get winded quik from the tren.. i mainly train calisthenics with bench , squat dead lift once a week
@Jordan Thomas libido is ridiculous, im 34 and have more get and go than in highschool. If your under 25 and train hard. This cycle will blow you the f up. Even if it were dosed once a week. If your running enanthate compounds i would suggest every 4th day to pin for a aggressive first cycle.. you dont really need the anavar if your just starting out. Youll easily gain 20lbs in 10 weeks if coming from natty. Do yourself a favor and get bloodwork done at 6 weeks to see how your reacting
@Thomas Watson nice brotha! I'm 33 and I am not new to anabolics I am new to tren so I'm giving it a go In a week! 200 tren 400 test. Alot of people say do tren higher keep the test low but that just doesn't seem right to me. I will throw the var in at around week 4 at 50mg. And I'll be running sarms to combat sides. as for pct, I'll start hcg 2 weeks before I finish cycle and I have clomid and arimidex. Solid?
I’m like that with kids without tren but honestly believe I’m better emotionally when I’m on tren. Everyone says if your already aggressive then don’t touch it but I realy find it has opposite effect with me
I’ve had multiple personality cycles. I’m running currently and I’m so chilled haven’t done it in years Cycles I were running years ago I was horrible and vile
Bullshit, I have done extended cycles of tren. many times with zero "roid Rage" or other negative sides . I did have a few gi tract issues, even unstoppable hiccups on occasion but nothing major.
no one mentions the fact that the cardarine rats also took it for a 1/3 of their lifespans. it would be the equivalent of a human taking it for 30 years straight. flawed study indeed
I couldn’t agree with the first person more- crazy libido, crazy strength gains, leaning effect, but my f*cking god the side effects. The only steroid that gave me mental side effects. I had to quit using it. I was living in LA, training at Gold’s Venice, had a cake easy job making good money, was getting laid left and right, and I was the unhappiest person in the world on tren. I would burst into tears on my way to work out of the blue, and would transition to utterly losing it at people in LA traffic. I could barely hold my tongue at work, I felt I was on the brink of getting fired every second of the day. I looked great and definitely had my best training sessions of all time on tren, but I couldn’t handle it mentally and quit. Did a total of 3 10-week cycles before I called it quits with that stuff.
Haha yeah you look amazing but at what cost. I left an 18 year relationship while on tren, I couldn’t control myself. Wanted to fuck everything that moved. I lost my mind completely. Was a walking time bomb. A crazy experience.
A guy in my gym raged at me on trenbolone, cos he was jealous of me for being genetically gifted at building muscle an having a good shape. Yes steroid users are envious of genetically gifted bodybuilders, an tren is the Cocaine of steroids. Tren an test should be permanently discontinued.
@@chrismagnussen4304 What did you like better about Ace? I work with a few guys that pin. It's interesting cause it's a mixed bag here. Some like fast Tren, some slow Tren. They've all got their reasonings. Personally I haven't pinned it yet. I'm too much in love with Deca lol. I'm not trying to pin both Deca & Tren in the same cycle.
Same Bro. I ran 50 MG every day and didn't experience much and had 4 different sources of tren. I did get some lack of empathy . None of the Etreme things that 80% of people mention. It is OK but , not sure why people don't just that LR3. I know it is like 5 or 6x the Price but, LR3 is the Best on the Planet and that is not Disputed.
Same Bro. I ran 50 MG every day and didn't experience much and had 4 different sources of tren. I did get some lack of empathy . None of the Etreme things that 80% of people mention. It is OK but , not sure why people don't just that LR3. I know it is like 5 or 6x the Price but, LR3 is the Best on the Planet and that is not Disputed.
Gotta love the comments in the comment section 😂 “Tren almost made me punch out 95% of the people in the mall because they were talking. Oh and mad me soooooo PARANOID & couldn’t breathe , but it made me strong. I LOVE IT” 🤣
Tren is on another level but every now and then id get the cough and it scared me to death caused anxiety thats why i stopped. I could handle all the side affects but when it hits your lungs after pinning that put me off
I never took tren... Twenty years ago I had a bottle but gave it to a friend and couldn't believe how it altered his body, hell even his face. Just hearing how it makes you, mentally, I know it isn't anything I'll ever take or be interested in. I'm as pissy and easily annoyed naturally as I care to be lol... 475mg test/week is plenty good for me
Yeah man, I’m the same. I’m on 300mg of T per week split into two doses and that’s plenty for me. I’m a Jiu-Jitsu and Muay Thai practitioner on top of going to the gym, swimming and running, plus a full time career. I feel 25 from being healthy, eating right, working my ass off and being a Martial Artist. And why mess up a good thing? Some things don’t need to be fixed. Testosterone Cypionate is more than enough to live a great life in your older age.
Not 1 IFBB pro who took REAL PARABOLAN speaks about this shit. Maybe its the longer ester, or the fact that they took 3 amps a week at 76mg…and it was REAL.
The tren rage he described sounds similar to a side effect I've gotten from Xanax before. It felt like my ability to let anything slide had left me, like any little thing would just set me off, and then I wouldn't even remember it afterwards. I know the blacking out part is specific to the Xanax, but the first part seemed familiar from his decription.
NEVER use xanax, even tren, trenbolone it's the opposite effect of Xanax, Xanax keeps u down half sleeping so u can not take drugs or get in trouble, tren makes u 🚀
I used to run tren for 3 months at lower dosages I don’t even remember the mg I was that long ago. I never got any bad sides until the end I had night sweats, now I would only run it at very short intervals, like 3-7 days max. And to run it while your young and developing a family, relationship, and brain is a bad idea. I was a door man at the time too and I have never been in a fight i always got punched in the back of the head stopping fights.
This sounds like when guys use testosterone for the first time… ego goes through the roof… I used tren for 7 weeks. 175mg. Strenght went through the roof, but I had insomnia for the 7 weeks. It is not worth it.
I ran ttm for 3 months. Never felt better. Was so confused when everyone was warning me that it’ll make me a crazy mad man but it did the opposite. I was so happy and forgiving, I felt like a freekin god mentally and physically.. other then the night sweats 😅
@@Alex2012295 wait till 12 weeks in which I hope isn't the case for ya cause it'll be stupid to run tren that long. Usually 6-8 week cycles works best back in the day. get it in your system get off it. Especially since it plummets your testosterone aggressively
The thing is. I want to actually know the honest true dosages these people are taking when having these crazy stories. Inexperienced steroid users always will jack up their dosages, even without experimenting for the first time with the compound. I have a feeling 50% or more people who are having these stories had high dosages of both Test and Tren.
Feels good to have great genetics and not using chemicals as a crutch. Shit is lame as hell all the people talking about their cycles. Have fun using yourself as a lab rat.
And by the way I am (61) years young still cruising along with hip problems only because I was hit by a car in Florida 2014 and it took me a little out of my game , I trying to decide to get hip surgery or a other more natural Approach , I have as they say bone on bone so all my workouts are sitting down still looking mean and lean for my young age, its all about taking extra good care of the body inside out most important of all lots of Asian herbology and Chinese , Good Luck too all cruisers out there!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Nah...Not true. Back in the early 80's I saw multiple guys Lose their shit on Test, orals and equipoise plus other stacks. This one buddy (who I'd known for my entire life and still do) had these exact symptoms. I don't doubt that tren is worse but these people were around way back.
Yeah but what we're they dosing? You can't come to that conclusion unless you know for sure how much they were taking. And what they were stacking with.
Never done tren because I’m too worried about what it will do to me mentally. I did DECA which made me get paranoid and really irritable. No violence or rage but I was ALWAYS grouchy and wanted to be left alone. I want to do tren for a cutting cycle next year with primo. Any advice everyone? I’m a moody guy usually. I get annoyed very easily.
@@lanceduke3522 your point? I’m asking for legitimate feedback from people. Frankly I responded pretty damn well to it. I’m here to ask about tren. You have any actual input or just looking to be a prick?
Leave it Alone, it turns you into an arrogant monster, if your the Jealous/insecure type don't touch it, this personal trainer lashed out on me in the Gym, he tried to Apologise afterwards, cos he knew it was the drugs, we will NEVER be civilise or friends again.
@@breaks3085 I’m jealous but not insecure. I know they typically go hand in hand but for me it’s jealous and competitive. I probably shouldn’t touch it if it causes shit like that for people. I already can be like that. Italian problems
I must be an outlier (which is weird because I have bipolar disorder type 1) and I started out taking 400 mgs Tren/EOD Ace w/750 mgs Sustanon, 400 mgs Masteron E, & 40 mgs oral Winni/day. Yes I did experience trensomnia, perpetually drenched in sweat even after an ice cold shower, after I ran outta the Tren Ace I switched to 500 mgs Tren E/week, 750 mgs Sustanon,/week 600 mgs EQ,/week & 40 mgs Dbol daily, 50 mgs Proviron daily, & 750-1,000 IU/week and I didn't even once flip out even remotely as close as I do when I'm completely off gear but I'm manic, so being Manic from having Bipolar Disorder type 1 made me rage out a million times worse than Tren Ace or Tren E ever did.
At around the 18 minute mark they started talking about the mind changes. What if someone kept a small dose, like 20-50mg/week long term. Could it potentially be good?
I literally just got off of Trent 300 mg a week most amazing compound I've ever taken obviously threw the roof sex drive but it calmed me down I'm usually angry on the trend I was like yeah I don't care I'm just going to go to the gym and fuck this is great I miss Tren... Only issue that I had was and if you don't know about it and it hit you it's the trend but it will fuck your stomach up when you'll get heartburn like you've never believed
Guess i was LUCKY? which is a matter of values n perspective...... i never had any issues with Tren, with that bein said i never dosed over 200 mg a week. Never took it longer than 6 weeks straight n that was the toughest deal for me DO TO 😂THE AMAZING OUTCOMES PRODUCED WITH ITS USE.
I've watched the most composed, brilliant guys who can " handle their shit"...take tren and it messed with their brain chemistry so bad that long after esters have cleared it was half a year to see them back to normal. No one is saying it happens to everyone. But the ramifications beyond road rage are barely discussed. And I doubt you can handle your shut because you make ignorant comments like that. Too dumb to realize that picking a fight with an 80 year old at a grocery store is NOT handling yourself 😢
@jarrod diffley Then they shouldn't run tren. They shouldn't go on a worldwide tour telling everyone else not to run tren.I run 500mg and only get heartburn and night sweats. So being composed is irrelevant. Peanuts kill people everyday. You don't see people with peanut allergies telling everyone else not to eat peanuts.
This is also with ANY steroid. Also can we all agree that practically everyone at some time has gone crazy with their doses? Like don't blame any steroid for your inability to manage dosages. Hell that even goes for ANY drug in the world. Obviously if you abuse Tren, your going to experience the side effects at the worst. Taking properly dosages of Tren, I am sure, will not be anything like taking a crap ton.
Absolutely this applies to TREN ACE...NoT tren enanthate. Acetate drops too quik n hard on the body system. Plus the haggard cough Tren enanthate is a different drug
Worse side effect I got from tren was back acne. Had it for a year after I stopped even. Also did sleep for month straight. Actually started visually hallucinating at work. Crazy horny, but test alone did that too lol.
Just describing a regular 20 something years old. Taking tren later like 30-40s, doesn’t change much as the brain is fully developed and if you are emotions=short tempered or stable , it will not effect. Describing psychological sides for a 20 something is not reliable.
I don't do gear but I'm fascinated with all PEDs , strangely enough this was a buprenorphine injection gone wrong, sucks buns but addicts are addicts and drugs are drugs as ive learned from the fitness industry
@@wydellbirchwood9146 there is a common lie that has been circulating for a good 15+ years that Suboxone (bupe+naloxone) when injected will not cause analgesia, euphoria, or any sort of "high." This would supposedly be due to the naloxone (narcan) present in the mixture. The thing is though that buprenorphine has a higher binding affinity to the opioid receptors than naloxone does , basically "rendering it totally inert" as we used to say on the forums. I know for a fact it does absolutely work and the effect is slightly stronger and slightly more euphoric than sublingual ROA. How do I know this? Well obviously if I am still doing it at age 29 with Suboxone strips just like I was doing it when I was 15 with the "stop sign + octagons" ...it must definitely work lol. Now that I have not done illicit opioids for 10 years, but instead have been injecting 2-4 mg of suboxone per day (at times it was as low as .7 mg per day for long intervals as well) it still to this very day has not decreased in effect , potency , or have i even gained tolerance. Although when injecting Suboxone I always lived by the code that LESS IS MORE and instead of making one high dose injection at once I opted for smaller dosed more frequent injections. My childhood drug buddy would never listen to me and instead, when he was out of heroin and money, he would shoot 4-8mg aka the entire strip all at once. Which you just can't do for sooooo many reasons, well you could do anything it's just stupid and pointless though. What was the result of him doing these large dose injections as opposed to the very small ones (.15-.3 mg) like me?? Well he claimed he never felt much, caused a massive tolerance for literally no reason, lost every damn vein before the age of 19 (because Suboxone has cornstarch in it and an injection of over 3mg in a 1ml syringe would result in a thick orangey gummy like solution that would clap the plunger down instead of just smoothly sliding , and this unfortunately resulted in many failed highs and extra complications for NO reason. Now that all being said , NEVER INJECT SUBOXONE , take it under your tongue like a good boy please , I might not be dead from opioids but 15 years later I have lost many of my veins as well and am looking like the same ass hat he was back then sitting in this hospital bed trying to get into a rehab for shooting subs 😕. The only thing I found intriguing which made no sense to me is that by doing many drug tests daily at times, I learned that IV buprenorphines half life is much shorter than sublingual ingestion. This meant it cleared drug tests quicker.....usually by a whole day and a half to two days, possibly more. This would also normally indicate that you should be withdrawing from IV much quicker than sublingual right?!? Well NOPE! It in fact did not. Strangely enough , it takes approximately 16 hours for me to start feeling the onset of bupe withdrawal (sweaty butt, aching back, chills/flashes) when taken sublingually and it also takes oddly exactly 15.5 hours for me to start withdrawing from IV bupe. Why? Only the bupe gods know Thats it , tried and tested true knowledge of a commonly misconceived drug by a buprenorphine junkie himself 🧐. Please nobody do this , just like most drugs NOT EVER WORTH IT. God bless you stay safe
I did that ONCE... Like your friend, I did probably a half and all I could feel was a sudden rush of terror and panic as I felt the bogies surge through my veins. I'm almost through 6 years of abuse. Haven't touched h in almost 6 years but for the life of me, couldn't get off the subs. I switched to zubsolv 1.4mg and take half sublingually a day and in 2 weeks, step down to the lowest mil. I feel your plight dude... It's a rough way to go when u advise the thing used in most rehabs to help people come off opiates. Best wishes to ya and know you are blessed. The Lord has favor over you cuz you're still here. Be safe man and take care of yourself! You can do it. When the pain of staying the same is greater than your fear of change, you will change and things will be better. Maybe not at first but if your like me, I fucked everybody over around me and had nobody but myself and God to depend on. It took years to build my life again but I've got all that a man could need now in a girl, a new child, job,, food, shelter, a bank account and I did it without a 12 step hustle. God is sufficient for us man. 💯💪🙋
The harshest sideeffect of tren is the risk of developing cardiomyophaty. This is an effect that has been seen on eco-cardiograms. It should be usef in very short cycles if any.
20 mg a pellet if i remember average dose was two pellets a dose 40 mg, not sure exactly not sure on frequency in bovines, I JUST KNOW GYM BROS DO A LOT MORE THAN THE CATTLE 😂
Tren affects everyone diffrent. Tren does not make me crazy or irritable. I love tren and have been on a low dose for over 20 years and absolutley love it. Tren mixed with Test is perfect combo! Does not effect eveyone the same don't forget that
@@betterplacetobe7896 Yes but only 1cc a week mixed with my test from doctor. Get my blood checked every 6 months. Blood always looks great. I work out 7 days a week. 49 years old. 4 miles a day ok treadmill. And 1 body part a day heavy and low reps. Sex twice a day. Still living good. Started steroids in my early 20s. Always the smallest kid in my class. I stay around 210 and never really had the genes to get big. My body is so used to it. My doc just bleep saying. Just keep doing what you doing. Blood looks great and your healthy as can be. Never had to take an estrogen blocker or give blood.
@@redbeardbrad1 Thank you for answering, good for you my friend. At least you are checking your bloodwork, 90% of people I know are on gear and they never check their bloodwork or blood pressure. I do 4 bloodwork per year, check blood pressure 4-6 times per week, once per year echocardiogram, 5 months ago I had a stress test and a CT calcium score and everything is optimal.
I'm 48 ran Tren ace for 12 weeks 100mg eod along with 100mg Test prop eod. No sides what so ever just felt great on it training 6 days a week didnt want to leave the gym session's were awesome. Sweated like fuck tho no cough but could feel it burning in my throat. Shame its so bad for you or I'd run it every cycle.
I am another person that ran a cycle of Tren and it was horrible! I was ready to start punching people in a grocery store, was suicidal. My cousin has ran gear for 20 years, when I told him he said get off that shit NOW! Got great results, ran Test C with Masterone after and did good but not the same!
Ya know, 17 year olds will see this and hear "we do not advocate using tren and it is very dangerous, DO NOT DO IT!!!" and be like, "haha, tren gains go burrrr". My old ass at 33 be like "what ever you say my guy, fuck that shit, sounds terrible" XD
Tren always made me feel like I was the best me, so empathetic, loving, friendly, meanwhile those closest to me saw a whole different me and even friends of mine online that don't even see me in person would ask if I was okay. Tren is the only steroid that causes any kind of psychosis and it is super sneaky. Tren is also the only anabolic I have ever felt any kind of addiction like symptoms for. Just having tren in the house will have you telling yourself you should do "a little run".. Yes, it does work but no it isn't worth it. Plus wait until you struggle to come while boning your wife. Yet another fun side of tren
zero problems for me on 200 mg of tren ace and week and 400 mg of test. I do semorlin peptide daily as well. but first week I was hot at night but since then no big side effects other than hard to stay hydrated and have muscle cramps often
Ive been powerlifting for a couple months consistent and see no need for tren or peds at all. Keep clean diet, strict lifting, lifting heavy and safe 4-5 days a week and im already filling my frame out and am almost double in strength. High weight low reps for thin guys. You dont need it give it time
Steroids has a lot of benefits, particularly for muscle recovery and strength. Personally, as an athlete I use anabolic steroids to speed up recovery from intense training or injuries. They also really help in rebuilding muscle tissue and enhancing performance.
Test Enan is commonly used in hormone replacement therapy to address low testosterone levels, promoting muscle growth and improving overall well-being. Tren, on the other hand, greatly enhances muscle size and strength. Speeds up recovery from injuries as well.
Totally agree. Steroids helped me recover faster and maintain muscle mass, especially during intense training or after injury. It's amazing how they can support bone health as well, which is crucial for people with conditions like osteoporosis.
There’s no doubt to the benefits of steroids. Honestly, it has greatly impacted my life. It played a major role in achieving my desired physique. People should learn not to abuse these substances and act like they are all bad.
Hey everyone, I’m looking for reliable sources for both steroids and protein supplements. I know it’s crucial to be cautious with these, especially with steroids, so I want to make sure I’m getting them from trustworthy sources. For protein supplements, I’m also interested in recommendations for reputable brands. Any suggestions or advice on where to find safe and high quality options?
Jeremyproteins is the person you want. He's the most knowledgeable about muscle-building supplements that I know.
Toblerone is also very effective in adding size
lmao
I can't find I injectable Toblerone...any sources
@@macaroni.raviolioral only unfortunately 🤣
When I was on Tren Ace, I went to the movie cinemas and had to walk out with in 15 minutes with fiery rage. The sound of other people eating their popcorn and chips drove me insane, I was close to snapping. I went home had a protein shake , took some Valium and went to sleep 😂😂😂
As much as I loved the results from Tren, I’m an endurance cardio junkie.. for that reason I probably won’t try it again anytime soon..
I thought I was the only one that got annoyed at the sound of chewing. I don't take Tren, but I am irritable by nature.
Where did you get the tren?
@@coreylopina23from his local Costco pharmacy
Wow!!! I've found my people!!! I see red when somebody is crunching on food near me. Drives me insane!!! That's without tren
Damn! 😂
Last time I ran Tren a guy flicked me off. I did a U turn , found him at a red light and jumped on the hood of his car like King Kong. The fear in that guys eyes
Goddamm I wish you had tried that on a boxer. Seeing roid heads get smacked up is hilarious
@@philinn4788oh myyy 😭 you have a point 100% but damn just enjoy the story 😹
@@Joelssarmsgotta love dudes like this. As if no bodybuilder has ever learned to box, and who tf actually cares. This is America, ANYONE can buy a gun
@@coltonkosto98 "This" is not America. You may live in America. This is the internet; not everyone from here lives in America.
@@philinn4788 boxing and street fighting are two different things. Just because somebody can box don't mean he can't catch them hands in the streets.
I ran tren years ago. First dose, my chest got real tight. Couldn't stop coughing. Felt like my heart was about to blow out. Very scary! Not scary enough apparently because I kept using it but when that cycle was over, never used it again. Tren could make Ben Shapiro feel like he's Connor McGregor.
Sounds like you main lined it. Done that before. Tren lung
@@Stoic1976 that's what I assume happened too. Inadvertently hit a blood vessel.
@@misterssippi601 recently quit halfway thru, can’t stand the night sweats. Been 2 weeks and I’m still sleeping on towels
@@Stoic1976 if you can try cutting down on carbs close to bedtime. Tren has a bad habit of metabolizing carbs extremely well and that produces heat.
The other side of the coin is it can make you go hypo glycemic very easily if you don’t watch your diet. If you are on trend and you chug a bunch of grape juice for example, it will put you on the floor.
Hit that vein with the shot brother.. That's SO DAM SCARY..
TNT 400 (200mg Test & 200mg Tren) is really all you need. Any more & the sides are just too much to handle. Tren under 200, you're pretty much a superhero. Tren over 200, you literally feel like a super villain, mentally.
Healthy diet and training thats what you need
Everyone is different but I agree with you.
I'm on 200mg tren e
300mg test e
Feel great
@@hshwhwbwhwhw3364 k buddy 👍
I agree. Less is always more
Imo 100mg of tren ace is all you need with your test. At that dose the sides aren't too bad and it's still extremely potent. The dosage given to cattle is 200mg/week. As someone with naturally high metabolism when I used tren I think the highest I ever went was 200/week and I quickly went back down to like 120-150mg/week after experiencing the increase in side effects. I wasn't even eating enough to keep up with the power of 120mg tren/week on top of deca and 500 test. If I ever use tren again I'm gonna use 50mg/week and maybe go up to 75 if I feel like it's worth it.
Body temp increase, u sweat a lot easier. Especially in your sleep. Which also adds to the basic insomnia. Then there’s increased irritation and paranoia, which some people deal with better than others, but it’s there.
But the benefits are like magic.
I have to try this magic they call Tren at least once.
@@jaredboyd2957 Enanthate seems to be easier to deal with, probably bc it doesn’t peak so hard. Acetate seems stronger but u gotta pin more often and with more volume. I tried A first and it sneaks up on you.
@@z72248 I've heard that some people handle tren e better. But if you take too much or don't like how it makes you feel you're in for feeling that way for a solid month after stopping tren e. So people should keep that in mind. If someone is going to try tren I'd recommend starting with ace at 50-75mg/week. Then see how they feel after two weeks or so. That dose might sound low compared to what most people are taking but most people are using way more than necessary and can get great results off 75/week.
@@WolfgangN.2 THIS! Test E for overal tolerance. Also you save yourself from injections. First time goers should bite the bullet and keep the dose low for a while as it makes it way to your system. Then slowly but surely MAYBE increase it ever so slightly if you don't see results.
I would go ACE, as the results are super fast and you notice strength increases like lightning. But it almost like getting attacked immediately like rabid animals all at once with the side effects. Double-edged sword.
@@WolfgangN.2 ima try what u said and stay at least 75 all the way through... gonna start my first cycle on tren n test
Tren is bad . I competed for 20 years and tren makes you just evil . It literally changes your brain chemistry .
You can always spot the Tren goblins at my gym they got that 1000 mile stare
That depends on genetics. If you're naturally elevated in reactive aggression, steroids and related compounds will make you very disagreeable and potentially even violent. If you're naturally low in reactive aggression you'll become more aggressive but not excessively aggressive.
It could even be a bonus for people who are low in aggression to become more aggressive, as aggression can be channelled into ambition and productivity.
With lifting you have either attended Trenn state university or you have not, the key is if you choose to go is make your stay brief and productive.
Tren didn't do anything to me, I think people that are assholes use the tren excuse to be bigger assholes. Or "roid rage" just because they are idiots who think that just because have some muscle think they can scare other people. All I got was more strength and bigger muscles. I was taking little doses. I decided to stop because I decided to stay healthy
I know right, these videos are cringy. It's just another compound
I agree with you... but even at low dosages, you still think it's unhealthy - say 200mg/wk for 8 weeks - a year?
Sorry... I was asking you a question- your opinion?
I 100% believe this in the end. It has to be. First of all, there are alot of nice and humble bodybuilders out there. But there ARE a ton of a-hole gym bros as well. These people already have deep insecurities and (not saying this as a blanket statement to gym goers, I am a weightlifter myself) alot of people will attempt to fix this mental insecurity by growing bigger muscles in attempt to be more superior or imposing physically. So these people with insecurities that are assholes go INTO Tren already with a "defect" and the steroid with bring out all of that insecurity for the world to see. You see the strength and muscles from the drug and you get a god complex almost which is part of the rage and asshole behavior.
I would love to see an actual psychologist Bodybuilder that DOES steroids to study on this. Because I think it would change the way we view this particular drug and roid rage in general.
@@tombonaroo4417 ........apparently you have never tried it.
I took 200mg tren a week and 500mg test e for 15 weeks, I had no side effects and unbelievable results.
did you had gyno or hair loss?
@@mayan9714 Tren doesnt give you gyno, but it can produces milk out of your tits, hair loss definitly!, and you get grandpa cardio, with Trensomnia
Dude so many people need to read comments like this because their is an obvious pattern. Dosages less than 300mg combined with higher test are very doable if you play the cards right and the results are awesome! All the morons going wild on tren are always blasting 400+ mg a week its always the same!
Mel Gibson is that you???
Do not take tren.. put in the work.. and focus on health wellness and longevity..
Don't take Tren or deca... all the other stuff is good
I've never done steroids but I'm a recovering recreation stimulant addict and alcoholic (I've fried my heart enough to put big time steroid use off the table). Anyway I'm shocked at how similar the psychological effects of Tren are to crystal methamphetamine. Super sex drive combined with paranoia. God damn fking nightmare so happy I got clean.
LOL i am not an addict but ran tren and let me tell you, there was a helicptor hovering over my house the entire time i was on tren and everyone was watching me! I swear.
@@biztranfsbo throw meth into that equation and you're running down your street barefoot at two in the morning knocking on neighbors doors
Wow, you are one of the lucky ones, many drugs have such small recovery percentages! I don't know you personally but I'm proud of you for conquering that beast! You probably hear it way to often but what you did was probably one of the hardest things anyone can ever do! You are Bad Ass my friend, keep kicking its ass! You are way stronger than that drug!
@@thejester6976 thank you brother. Appreciate that message very much.
Meth doesn't really classify as a recreational stimulant, but congrats.
Tren does make you paranoid and think your girl is cheating on you. But my gf actually was cheating on me lol wouldn’t have found out without the Tren paranoia
Rubish with the subtle sleeve lifts showin the arms….Always a bro! Haha
If irritable avoid the grocery store if on Tren. Bidenomics will set you off.
Tren would throw me into a panic attack! Even before the dart was emptied, I would feel this rush throughout my body, and would literally have to just lay on the floor and wait for it to pass! Scary shit!
Thats heroin dude 😂
Sex drive on tren in INSANE
Back in 2000 we’d buy the tren pellets from veterinarian site. They made a conversion kit you could buy online. Made 60mls of tren ace 💀🤣. Lost a few gfs while on tren 😯. Wish I was in my twenties still.
Good ole Finaplix! Used it a few times in the 90’s along with finajet. Parabolin from France was hard to get back in the day
Damn that sounds fuckin awesome
@@Psupower250u could get the pellets 2yrs ago from Amazon even could get 4,000mg pellets for a while. I made 1,000mg a ml gained 30lbs felt like I could pick up a car angry all the time.
I was called Finaplix..... crush put under tongue.
I'm doing sustanon and getting great results and I'm in my 40s and it made me lean out little bit definitely not like tren but it works.people getting a lot of side effects is definitely abusing it and alot is based on clean diet.
Sus is a great TRT treatment -- Tren is not. Stay on the Sus, eat right, exercise, and you'll be just fine (throw some HCG in there too) ...
@@mbdulka hcg so hard to get right now such high demand and a shortage in Florida
@@ADCC-qp2gk Yeah, lots of cat women trying to stay fertile probably -- ha ha! I'd add Metformin too ... TRT/HCG/Metformin -- the trifecta of goodness.
So I’m 42 starting sustanon 350 does it work how long should I do it for
Sustanon for girls and gay guys. 😂 Super trembolone is the real deal 🎉
Tren is the Oxycontin of the 'roid game.
Yeah especially in pill form.
@@chadferreira6799 I've heard of it and searched for it yes, but never got my hands on anything else but dbol and the previous, heard it's good but harsh.
@@chadferreira6799 I heard that from others too haha.
Is Winstrol losing popularity? My favorite liver toxic oral.
@@taylorwilkey97inyectable es igual de toxico.
It baffles me when I hear about people talk about irritability and other symptoms of trend. I literally have none of them. I feel amazing.
It doesn't come without a price brother.
@@TonyJay504he knows this, along with every gear head on earth
TRT = Tren Replacement Therapy
I literally tried everything before Tren. I finally am on my first Tren Ace now. Super low dose though but really makes a difference. I am currently on what 100 mg a week. Took one week to start seeing changes. But that shit will absolutely wig you out bro. One mine you're in love, next minute you're about to fight a crowd of people next minute a song comes on the radio and you tear up. Sheesh. The shit is nuts. Lol
100 per week? Yea thats super low. Still getting results?
I'm about to start my first tren cycle next week, so nervous, your post really helped, will tren slow down my bulk? Thanks bro
That sounds awful holy shit.
Sounds like me on my period. Damn 😂
The tearing up at a song/movie etc sounds like high estrogen. Are you sure you've even got Trenbolone? It is usually the complete opposite to that!
Im on tren now im taking 300 mg of tren E a week and i dont get the feeling of wanting to fight people r any rage but im much stronger and leaner my chest and delts got that full look i don't get the night sweats but i do get the tightness in my chest and hard to breathe feeling and the bad dreams but this stuff definitely works
I think we differ on the definition of “works”. To me natural is the only way. Strength of mind, spirit and body. Discipline, sacrifice, constance, good nutrition, meditation, books. That’s what works.
@@oceanriccard your in the wrong section....God, religion.... 2 blocks on the right.
I am so surprised seeing all this about tren and I believe it 💯. But it doesn’t not work for me like that. I get all the benefits but fuck i dont feel any aggression or any rage. Its fuck smooth as primo like for me and i am still scare to take it to next level. Will be always 200gm per week with test 300mg and i am throwing some primo 100 mg. Fucking amazing shit for me.
samem been on it for hella months. tren only tho.
That's what I'm starting next week🤞
I’ve ran several cycles. Tren ace and tren enth and never have gotten sides other than sweating my balls off and insomnia.
Yea, definitaly the sides hit different for everyone. You know what sux for me, is I took Superdrol with Test and got NONE of the dreadful sides that Dbol and Anadrol and Tbol give me (headache, nausea, BACK PUMPS, my god the back pumps). It was great, and I actually saw gains, without even trying. The only side I got was a giant spike in blood pressure, and I was already taking some bp meds to counter the steroids.
Superdrol would have been my go-to oral of all time, because it did its job amazingly. But unfortunately the bp and of course live toxicity make it so I have to plan my superdrol blast cycles. So everyone gets good results and some don't. Its different for everyone for sure.
I can’t believe people are so stupid to use this type of shit especially teenagers and people in their 20s!!!!
I think age and experience has a lot to do with it too, more than we give it credit. I ran Tren a lot over almost 15 yrs. In my 20s, yeah I was irritable, fight mode, gfs pissed you off, parents pissed you off, road rage roid rage, etc. In my late 30s things were much diff. I ran Tren a lot by this time, and hefty doses every cycle. At that age, life’s doing good, career is good, muscle memory and muscle maturity is getting better year by year. I don’t even really get mad, unless it’s seriously big deal. Oh and I don’t have a wife or gf by choice too which makes shit 100 times better not having a nagging vagina near you 24/7. Your girl can’t piss you off if you don’t have a girl 🤘🏽
💯💯💯💯💯💯. I ran tren in my 20s and always caused me problems with my girls(plural) 😂 and at work. I’m 31 and single now running my own business and it’s fucking great. Bit worried about my hairline but the pumps are unbeatable 😂😂
What about your boyfriend though?
@@Haha-nv5gm yeah hair’s ship sailed. Rock the bald look. It works. At 38 I been battling it since early 20s
Stepping out the closet...? 😁
@@mikenewedge you seem interested
The only issues I ever had on Tren was was vivid horrible nightmares. Bro the scariest dream’s possible but I couldn’t wake up. Actually I remember at the time it was kinda cool got lean and strong AF. 10/10 would recommend
That’s the only negative side affects I get. I mean horrible unthinkable nightmares and they are so random
@@brandonerwin3019 need
Stay cool during sleep and hydrate before bed and guarantee the nightmare end
Tren is the devils blood.
U described it on the best way as possible😂😂
Literally what some guy told me. It’s the devil.
I didn't experience the cough, but you would notice almost a supression of breathing sometimes. You feel the stress on your lungs.....but does it work as expected.....if you stack it with a little test and don't go overboard....yea it works. 😂 when you're off though it's going to suck losing about 80% of it.
I remember on Tren I could workout for 3 hours and not be tired. I would leave the gym because hunger was so overwhelming
I ran Tren A years ago with zero side effects. I was 27 at the time. Im 33 now and about to go back on tomorrow
how did it go ?
@jahvooz2971 i was on for 4 weeks. Strength went through the roof but I don't have the best body type where tren really shines. I put on weight years ago that I'm trying to get off. I wasn't a fan of doing injections every other day either
I hope you ran a test base too 😬
@MarylandGuy-ey3st I did run test as well. I got strong aF but stopped after a month. My aggression went through the roof, and I don't like that. Every other day, injections sucks too. That was a major chore. I think I'm going to stick to trt and that's it. I can't imagine the amount of damage all these compounds are doing to my body
What were your dosages The first time and this second time around?
Trenbaloni sandwiches for all!!
First time I ever took tren was tren enanthate and I got every side effect going lol hard to breath like breathing through a straw , severe heart burn , anger through the roof , high anxiety , stomach cramps, insomnia , paranoia, but strength went through the roof , roid rage .
Took tren ace after a while after having break and was fine , went back too tren enwnthate years later and I was fine was the first run , also yes libido goes sky high but gets too much after a while
300 test , 200 tren enanthate, 50 mg var daily. For intermediate users only. Literally like having a cup of cofee every hour while on cycle. 😂
That's imo a pretty mild cycle.
300 is low dose test.
The 200 Tren is not low dose, but pretty normal/intermediate.
50mg Anavar is a normal dose.
Overall I'd probably call it not novice, but on the end of novice beginning of intermediate.
You've got a light test base, a light oral, & Tren at a proper dose.
I definitely wouldn't tell somebody to run this in their first few cycles because of the Tren.
How were you gains and libido on this cycle? I'm about to run it very similar to this
The compounds are every 3rd day btw. That was important to add. This is my cruising dose. I cycle off the var in the winter. Ive done my share of 1000mg of test with other supplemental compounds and find that this combo works for me.. im able to maintain 10% bf shredded as hell 6,1 190lbs.. the one downside is stamina while on the tren.. blood pressure is a little high and you get winded quik from the tren.. i mainly train calisthenics with bench , squat dead lift once a week
@Jordan Thomas libido is ridiculous, im 34 and have more get and go than in highschool. If your under 25 and train hard. This cycle will blow you the f up. Even if it were dosed once a week. If your running enanthate compounds i would suggest every 4th day to pin for a aggressive first cycle.. you dont really need the anavar if your just starting out. Youll easily gain 20lbs in 10 weeks if coming from natty. Do yourself a favor and get bloodwork done at 6 weeks to see how your reacting
@Thomas Watson nice brotha! I'm 33 and I am not new to anabolics I am new to tren so I'm giving it a go In a week! 200 tren 400 test. Alot of people say do tren higher keep the test low but that just doesn't seem right to me. I will throw the var in at around week 4 at 50mg. And I'll be running sarms to combat sides. as for pct, I'll start hcg 2 weeks before I finish cycle and I have clomid and arimidex. Solid?
I’m like that with kids without tren but honestly believe I’m better emotionally when I’m on tren. Everyone says if your already aggressive then don’t touch it but I realy find it has opposite effect with me
Yes same with me too
Me too!
I’ve had multiple personality cycles.
I’m running currently and I’m so chilled haven’t done it in years
Cycles I were running years ago I was horrible and vile
You have bunk
@@ShinzoX90 not every drug gives the same side effects to everyone guy
Dangerous but worth the risk..... good song by RATT
STAY NATURAL, LONGEVITY IS THE KEY..I LOOK LIKE I'M ON STEROIDS AT 48 YRS OLD, WHEN I WAS 20 , I LOOKED LIKE A ROIDER, MY THUMBNAIL BICEP DON'T LIE
Loool
Looks like a cartoon bicep
@@getmoneychill6462 I MUST BE DOING SOMETHING RIGHT THEN
200 mg tren E was my max and tren ace was no go with terrible Tren cough 100 % for me .
Shit im worried to go from 250 test to 500😂😂 yall are on a whole other level
500 test a week not bad at all compared to Tren.... that would be not be good.
Lol me 2 bro
Im not gonna lie im in with love with tren im gonna need help to stop, and now anavar is a next one that drug is amazing,
Bullshit, I have done extended cycles of tren. many times with zero "roid Rage" or other negative sides . I did have a few gi tract issues, even unstoppable hiccups on occasion but nothing major.
no one mentions the fact that the cardarine rats also took it for a 1/3 of their lifespans. it would be the equivalent of a human taking it for 30 years straight. flawed study indeed
What foods are high in tren?
chicken broccoli rice 😂
Trenbolone sandwich
@@Lambo_567 LoL
Can you explain the dangers of where to find tren?
I couldn’t agree with the first person more- crazy libido, crazy strength gains, leaning effect, but my f*cking god the side effects. The only steroid that gave me mental side effects.
I had to quit using it. I was living in LA, training at Gold’s Venice, had a cake easy job making good money, was getting laid left and right, and I was the unhappiest person in the world on tren.
I would burst into tears on my way to work out of the blue, and would transition to utterly losing it at people in LA traffic. I could barely hold my tongue at work, I felt I was on the brink of getting fired every second of the day. I looked great and definitely had my best training sessions of all time on tren, but I couldn’t handle it mentally and quit. Did a total of 3 10-week cycles before I called it quits with that stuff.
Haha yeah you look amazing but at what cost. I left an 18 year relationship while on tren, I couldn’t control myself. Wanted to fuck everything that moved. I lost my mind completely. Was a walking time bomb. A crazy experience.
A guy in my gym raged at me on trenbolone, cos he was jealous of me for being genetically gifted at building muscle an having a good shape. Yes steroid users are envious of genetically gifted bodybuilders, an tren is the Cocaine of steroids. Tren an test should be permanently discontinued.
Did you try both Tren Ace & Tren Enth?
@@ClickClack_Bam yes, I preferred Ace. I guess that makes it 4 cycles; I forgot about the Tren E.
@@chrismagnussen4304 What did you like better about Ace?
I work with a few guys that pin.
It's interesting cause it's a mixed bag here. Some like fast Tren, some slow Tren. They've all got their reasonings.
Personally I haven't pinned it yet. I'm too much in love with Deca lol. I'm not trying to pin both Deca & Tren in the same cycle.
I punched my cousin on tren. Chased 2 people down. Got arrested. I was 18 19
The ones talking abut Tren looks like they never seen the inside of a gym and eat donuts.
I must be lucky. Took theee cycles and never got annoyed, no rage, no insomnia, no acne. Only thing was increased blood pressure
Yeah but what were your doses?
@@karkkimarkkinat2109 I took 400mg/ week first cycle
Other 2 were at 200 / week
Same Bro. I ran 50 MG every day and didn't experience much and had 4 different sources of tren. I did get some lack of empathy . None of the Etreme things that 80% of people mention. It is OK but , not sure why people don't just that LR3. I know it is like 5 or 6x the Price but, LR3 is the Best on the Planet and that is not Disputed.
Same Bro. I ran 50 MG every day and didn't experience much and had 4 different sources of tren. I did get some lack of empathy . None of the Etreme things that 80% of people mention. It is OK but , not sure why people don't just that LR3. I know it is like 5 or 6x the Price but, LR3 is the Best on the Planet and that is not Disputed.
Then your stuff probably was fake hate to break it to you
Gotta love the comments in the comment section 😂 “Tren almost made me punch out 95% of the people in the mall because they were talking. Oh and mad me soooooo PARANOID & couldn’t breathe , but it made me strong. I LOVE IT” 🤣
If you keep it at 300 mg and only do 6 weeks only it’s awesome. I love Tren but it does give you a attitude
Oh TRT stands for Tren Replacement Trearpy... You have the Tren level of a newborn calf, 100mgs have you up to Belgium Blue stats😂😂
I hate kids as well. I’m 41 and no kids. I got fixed because I hate children.
You messed up you can't practice semen retention,you'll never know of this God given natural power from your seed
First cycle was 500mg Test 500mg Tren Enth. We have a love hate friendship to this day😅
that is a lot my friend...... be safe.
Tren is on another level but every now and then id get the cough and it scared me to death caused anxiety thats why i stopped. I could handle all the side affects but when it hits your lungs after pinning that put me off
I never took tren... Twenty years ago I had a bottle but gave it to a friend and couldn't believe how it altered his body, hell even his face. Just hearing how it makes you, mentally, I know it isn't anything I'll ever take or be interested in. I'm as pissy and easily annoyed naturally as I care to be lol... 475mg test/week is plenty good for me
Yeah man, I’m the same. I’m on 300mg of T per week split into two doses and that’s plenty for me. I’m a Jiu-Jitsu and Muay Thai practitioner on top of going to the gym, swimming and running, plus a full time career. I feel 25 from being healthy, eating right, working my ass off and being a Martial Artist. And why mess up a good thing? Some things don’t need to be fixed. Testosterone Cypionate is more than enough to live a great life in your older age.
Yessir! I'm dosing isocaproate at 250mg/week, Mon / Thurs and i am g2g... i switched to a slower ester for winter
Not 1 IFBB pro who took REAL PARABOLAN speaks about this shit. Maybe its the longer ester, or the fact that they took 3 amps a week at 76mg…and it was REAL.
Tren hard, eat clen, anavar give up dbolishing your goals
The tren rage he described sounds similar to a side effect I've gotten from Xanax before. It felt like my ability to let anything slide had left me, like any little thing would just set me off, and then I wouldn't even remember it afterwards. I know the blacking out part is specific to the Xanax, but the first part seemed familiar from his decription.
Xanax ain't no joke it's important to spread the awareness
can relate. ive had some life-altering bad situations as a result of xanax. that drug should be avoided at all costs.
@@areyoutheregoditsmedave yep you wanna ruin your life possibly? take xanax
NEVER use xanax, even tren, trenbolone it's the opposite effect of Xanax, Xanax keeps u down half sleeping so u can not take drugs or get in trouble, tren makes u 🚀
Isn't xanax ment to do the opposite
Roid rage is not just Tren. Imagine the rage side effect out of Tren and enhancing it 3x. That’s Halotestin😅
Halo should only be done a week or so for hardness before a show or strength before an event
What's the point of body building? The only spectators are other body builders. There's little money in it.
Exactly its a messed up 'sport' at pro level. More of a muscle fashion show and science experiment.
Obviously you don’t lift so you just wouldn’t understand
I used to run tren for 3 months at lower dosages I don’t even remember the mg I was that long ago. I never got any bad sides until the end I had night sweats, now I would only run it at very short intervals, like 3-7 days max. And to run it while your young and developing a family, relationship, and brain is a bad idea. I was a door man at the time too and I have never been in a fight i always got punched in the back of the head stopping fights.
I know guys running it at only 50mg a week & they love it that way.
This sounds like when guys use testosterone for the first time… ego goes through the roof… I used tren for 7 weeks. 175mg. Strenght went through the roof, but I had insomnia for the 7 weeks. It is not worth it.
Drugs is drugs runing by every ego planet earth. 😢
How long ago was this interview? Leo was murdered in his apartment and isnt with us anymore. Leo was so awesome, God rest his soul
I ran ttm for 3 months. Never felt better. Was so confused when everyone was warning me that it’ll make me a crazy mad man but it did the opposite. I was so happy and forgiving, I felt like a freekin god mentally and physically.. other then the night sweats 😅
Meanwhile everyone around you thought you were out of your mind. That is how sneaky tren is
Same currently on 480 a week with 200 test and 325 masteron and I’m 5 weeks in zero sides
Why did you do it for only 3 months?
@@Alex2012295 wait till 12 weeks in which I hope isn't the case for ya cause it'll be stupid to run tren that long. Usually 6-8 week cycles works best back in the day. get it in your system get off it. Especially since it plummets your testosterone aggressively
@@bigchacha1885u don’t run cycles longer than that u have to give your body a break n start pct
These guys did a bad job of deterring people from doing tren lmaoo
Tren is the Meth of steroids, can’t stop hearing about the crazy stories lol.
The thing is. I want to actually know the honest true dosages these people are taking when having these crazy stories. Inexperienced steroid users always will jack up their dosages, even without experimenting for the first time with the compound. I have a feeling 50% or more people who are having these stories had high dosages of both Test and Tren.
Feels good to have great genetics and not using chemicals as a crutch. Shit is lame as hell all the people talking about their cycles. Have fun using yourself as a lab rat.
And by the way I am (61) years young still cruising along with hip problems only because I was hit by a car in Florida 2014 and it took me a little out of my game , I trying to decide to get hip surgery or a other more natural Approach , I have as they say bone on bone so all my workouts are sitting down still looking mean and lean for my young age, its all about taking extra good care of the body inside out most important of all lots of Asian herbology and Chinese , Good Luck too all cruisers out there!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Great job 👏 How much are you cruising on and is it just test or other compounds ,?
Exactly right. Roid rage is absolutely only Tren. Facts
And halo
@@NoName-nq8vc cheque drops
Nah...Not true. Back in the early 80's I saw multiple guys Lose their shit on Test, orals and equipoise plus other stacks. This one buddy (who I'd known for my entire life and still do) had these exact symptoms. I don't doubt that tren is worse but these people were around way back.
And many took only 500 test 300 Deca and 300 EQ and grew like weeds
Yeah but what we're they dosing? You can't come to that conclusion unless you know for sure how much they were taking. And what they were stacking with.
test and EQ?? .. ran that for years and yes back in the 80's... stuff is very mild not harsh at all.
First time I did tren i thought I was gonna have a heart attack, couldn’t sleep, coughed hard, but got a good pump in, 10/10 would Recommend
Nibble don’t eat and you’ll be fine, problem is no one has patience. Life is nothing but roads and paths you decide what’s good for you
Never done tren because I’m too worried about what it will do to me mentally. I did DECA which made me get paranoid and really irritable. No violence or rage but I was ALWAYS grouchy and wanted to be left alone. I want to do tren for a cutting cycle next year with primo. Any advice everyone? I’m a moody guy usually. I get annoyed very easily.
Hahaha, deca the mildest steroid 😂
@@lanceduke3522 your point? I’m asking for legitimate feedback from people. Frankly I responded pretty damn well to it. I’m here to ask about tren. You have any actual input or just looking to be a prick?
@@lanceduke3522 it's true I was same now bk test and feeling ok
Leave it Alone, it turns you into an arrogant monster, if your the Jealous/insecure type don't touch it, this personal trainer lashed out on me in the Gym, he tried to Apologise afterwards, cos he knew it was the drugs, we will NEVER be civilise or friends again.
@@breaks3085 I’m jealous but not insecure. I know they typically go hand in hand but for me it’s jealous and competitive. I probably shouldn’t touch it if it causes shit like that for people. I already can be like that. Italian problems
I must be an outlier (which is weird because I have bipolar disorder type 1) and I started out taking 400 mgs Tren/EOD Ace w/750 mgs Sustanon, 400 mgs Masteron E, & 40 mgs oral Winni/day. Yes I did experience trensomnia, perpetually drenched in sweat even after an ice cold shower, after I ran outta the Tren Ace I switched to 500 mgs Tren E/week, 750 mgs Sustanon,/week 600 mgs EQ,/week & 40 mgs Dbol daily, 50 mgs Proviron daily, & 750-1,000 IU/week and I didn't even once flip out even remotely as close as I do when I'm completely off gear but I'm manic, so being Manic from having Bipolar Disorder type 1 made me rage out a million times worse than Tren Ace or Tren E ever did.
At around the 18 minute mark they started talking about the mind changes. What if someone kept a small dose, like 20-50mg/week long term. Could it potentially be good?
Definitely im on 50mg of tren a week its wicked
How long have you ran this for and did it affect BP?@@colejames2604
yes but include some test C or E.
Tren never really helped with strength or wieght loss...Just night sweats..insomnia and super horny
I literally just got off of Trent 300 mg a week most amazing compound I've ever taken obviously threw the roof sex drive but it calmed me down I'm usually angry on the trend I was like yeah I don't care I'm just going to go to the gym and fuck this is great I miss Tren... Only issue that I had was and if you don't know about it and it hit you it's the trend but it will fuck your stomach up when you'll get heartburn like you've never believed
Incredible video 5 🌟 very interesting and informative 👍
Tren made me suicidal and almost cost me my marriage as well as my life. Stay away
Nsima isn’t on Tren. Tren is on Nsima.
Guess i was LUCKY? which is a matter of values n perspective...... i never had any issues with Tren, with that bein said i never dosed over 200 mg a week. Never took it longer than 6 weeks straight n that was the toughest deal for me DO TO 😂THE AMAZING OUTCOMES PRODUCED WITH ITS USE.
People need to stop talking about tren like it does that to everyone. Quit giving it a bad rap because you can't handle your shit.
I've watched the most composed, brilliant guys who can " handle their shit"...take tren and it messed with their brain chemistry so bad that long after esters have cleared it was half a year to see them back to normal. No one is saying it happens to everyone. But the ramifications beyond road rage are barely discussed. And I doubt you can handle your shut because you make ignorant comments like that. Too dumb to realize that picking a fight with an 80 year old at a grocery store is NOT handling yourself 😢
@jarrod diffley Then they shouldn't run tren. They shouldn't go on a worldwide tour telling everyone else not to run tren.I run 500mg and only get heartburn and night sweats. So being composed is irrelevant. Peanuts kill people everyday. You don't see people with peanut allergies telling everyone else not to eat peanuts.
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This is also with ANY steroid. Also can we all agree that practically everyone at some time has gone crazy with their doses? Like don't blame any steroid for your inability to manage dosages. Hell that even goes for ANY drug in the world. Obviously if you abuse Tren, your going to experience the side effects at the worst. Taking properly dosages of Tren, I am sure, will not be anything like taking a crap ton.
Calm down, weakling
Absolutely this applies to TREN ACE...NoT tren enanthate.
Acetate drops too quik n hard on the body system. Plus the haggard cough
Tren enanthate is a different drug
No it's not
The psychological side effects I had from Tren with both esters were terrifying
Worse side effect I got from tren was back acne. Had it for a year after I stopped even. Also did sleep for month straight. Actually started visually hallucinating at work. Crazy horny, but test alone did that too lol.
Sounds like the Test not the Tren
Either way sucks for you
@@DnBReece1 no..... test never does that ... Tren .....yes it makes sense.
“Maybe I’m on tren” 😂😂😂
One of the best videos I’ve ever seen on this topoc
Just describing a regular 20 something years old. Taking tren later like 30-40s, doesn’t change much as the brain is fully developed and if you are emotions=short tempered or stable , it will not effect. Describing psychological sides for a 20 something is not reliable.
Perfect timing middle of the day in hospital bed from bad injection ...learning my lesson for the fourth and hopefully final time
What do you mean by bad injection? What happened?
I don't do gear but I'm fascinated with all PEDs , strangely enough this was a buprenorphine injection gone wrong, sucks buns but addicts are addicts and drugs are drugs as ive learned from the fitness industry
@@timmarinelli2962 why not just take the strips orally instead of injection?
@@wydellbirchwood9146 there is a common lie that has been circulating for a good 15+ years that Suboxone (bupe+naloxone) when injected will not cause analgesia, euphoria, or any sort of "high." This would supposedly be due to the naloxone (narcan) present in the mixture. The thing is though that buprenorphine has a higher binding affinity to the opioid receptors than naloxone does , basically "rendering it totally inert" as we used to say on the forums. I know for a fact it does absolutely work and the effect is slightly stronger and slightly more euphoric than sublingual ROA. How do I know this? Well obviously if I am still doing it at age 29 with Suboxone strips just like I was doing it when I was 15 with the "stop sign + octagons" ...it must definitely work lol. Now that I have not done illicit opioids for 10 years, but instead have been injecting 2-4 mg of suboxone per day (at times it was as low as .7 mg per day for long intervals as well) it still to this very day has not decreased in effect , potency , or have i even gained tolerance. Although when injecting Suboxone I always lived by the code that LESS IS MORE and instead of making one high dose injection at once I opted for smaller dosed more frequent injections. My childhood drug buddy would never listen to me and instead, when he was out of heroin and money, he would shoot 4-8mg aka the entire strip all at once. Which you just can't do for sooooo many reasons, well you could do anything it's just stupid and pointless though. What was the result of him doing these large dose injections as opposed to the very small ones (.15-.3 mg) like me?? Well he claimed he never felt much, caused a massive tolerance for literally no reason, lost every damn vein before the age of 19 (because Suboxone has cornstarch in it and an injection of over 3mg in a 1ml syringe would result in a thick orangey gummy like solution that would clap the plunger down instead of just smoothly sliding , and this unfortunately resulted in many failed highs and extra complications for NO reason.
Now that all being said , NEVER INJECT SUBOXONE , take it under your tongue like a good boy please , I might not be dead from opioids but 15 years later I have lost many of my veins as well and am looking like the same ass hat he was back then sitting in this hospital bed trying to get into a rehab for shooting subs 😕.
The only thing I found intriguing which made no sense to me is that by doing many drug tests daily at times, I learned that IV buprenorphines half life is much shorter than sublingual ingestion. This meant it cleared drug tests quicker.....usually by a whole day and a half to two days, possibly more. This would also normally indicate that you should be withdrawing from IV much quicker than sublingual right?!? Well
NOPE! It in fact did not. Strangely enough , it takes approximately 16 hours for me to start feeling the onset of bupe withdrawal (sweaty butt, aching back, chills/flashes) when taken sublingually and it also takes oddly exactly 15.5 hours for me to start withdrawing from IV bupe. Why? Only the bupe gods know
Thats it , tried and tested true knowledge of a commonly misconceived drug by a buprenorphine junkie himself 🧐. Please nobody do this , just like most drugs NOT EVER WORTH IT. God bless you stay safe
I did that ONCE... Like your friend, I did probably a half and all I could feel was a sudden rush of terror and panic as I felt the bogies surge through my veins. I'm almost through 6 years of abuse. Haven't touched h in almost 6 years but for the life of me, couldn't get off the subs. I switched to zubsolv 1.4mg and take half sublingually a day and in 2 weeks, step down to the lowest mil. I feel your plight dude... It's a rough way to go when u advise the thing used in most rehabs to help people come off opiates. Best wishes to ya and know you are blessed. The Lord has favor over you cuz you're still here. Be safe man and take care of yourself! You can do it. When the pain of staying the same is greater than your fear of change, you will change and things will be better. Maybe not at first but if your like me, I fucked everybody over around me and had nobody but myself and God to depend on. It took years to build my life again but I've got all that a man could need now in a girl, a new child, job,, food, shelter, a bank account and I did it without a 12 step hustle. God is sufficient for us man. 💯💪🙋
The harshest sideeffect of tren is the risk of developing cardiomyophaty. This is an effect that has been seen on eco-cardiograms.
It should be usef in very short cycles if any.
smaller dosages be smart.
20 mg a pellet if i remember average dose was two pellets a dose 40 mg, not sure exactly not sure on frequency in bovines, I JUST KNOW GYM BROS DO A LOT MORE THAN THE CATTLE 😂
Tren affects everyone diffrent. Tren does not make me crazy or irritable. I love tren and have been on a low dose for over 20 years and absolutley love it. Tren mixed with Test is perfect combo! Does not effect eveyone the same don't forget that
If I understand you taking Tren for 20 years straight??
@@betterplacetobe7896 Yes but only 1cc a week mixed with my test from doctor. Get my blood checked every 6 months. Blood always looks great. I work out 7 days a week. 49 years old. 4 miles a day ok treadmill. And 1 body part a day heavy and low reps. Sex twice a day. Still living good. Started steroids in my early 20s. Always the smallest kid in my class. I stay around 210 and never really had the genes to get big. My body is so used to it. My doc just bleep saying. Just keep doing what you doing. Blood looks great and your healthy as can be. Never had to take an estrogen blocker or give blood.
I'm tellin ya, even on a cycle using test with tren is KEY.. Little side effects if ANY..
Same
@@redbeardbrad1 Thank you for answering, good for you my friend. At least you are checking your bloodwork, 90% of people I know are on gear and they never check their bloodwork or blood pressure. I do 4 bloodwork per year, check blood pressure 4-6 times per week, once per year echocardiogram, 5 months ago I had a stress test and a CT calcium score and everything is optimal.
I'm 48 ran Tren ace for 12 weeks 100mg eod along with 100mg Test prop eod. No sides what so ever just felt great on it training 6 days a week didnt want to leave the gym session's were awesome. Sweated like fuck tho no cough but could feel it burning in my throat. Shame its so bad for you or I'd run it every cycle.
I am another person that ran a cycle of Tren and it was horrible! I was ready to start punching people in a grocery store, was suicidal. My cousin has ran gear for 20 years, when I told him he said get off that shit NOW! Got great results, ran Test C with Masterone after and did good but not the same!
Ya know, 17 year olds will see this and hear "we do not advocate using tren and it is very dangerous, DO NOT DO IT!!!" and be like, "haha, tren gains go burrrr". My old ass at 33 be like "what ever you say my guy, fuck that shit, sounds terrible" XD
Tren always made me feel like I was the best me, so empathetic, loving, friendly, meanwhile those closest to me saw a whole different me and even friends of mine online that don't even see me in person would ask if I was okay. Tren is the only steroid that causes any kind of psychosis and it is super sneaky. Tren is also the only anabolic I have ever felt any kind of addiction like symptoms for. Just having tren in the house will have you telling yourself you should do "a little run".. Yes, it does work but no it isn't worth it. Plus wait until you struggle to come while boning your wife. Yet another fun side of tren
Cabergoline for the prolactin will solve the cuming issue. But I can identify with everything you said. Those little bottles wisper to me. LOL.
@@VarthLloker tren is evil in a bottle lol
NPP is the same way. Sweat to death and couldn’t nut to save my life
zero problems for me on 200 mg of tren ace and week and 400 mg of test. I do semorlin peptide daily as well. but first week I was hot at night but since then no big side effects other than hard to stay hydrated and have muscle cramps often
Ive been powerlifting for a couple months consistent and see no need for tren or peds at all. Keep clean diet, strict lifting, lifting heavy and safe 4-5 days a week and im already filling my frame out and am almost double in strength. High weight low reps for thin guys. You dont need it give it time