feel really bad for that dude who said he’s been training for 7 years and then said “even though you can’t tell” even tho he looks great. people are just blinded by social media standards and feel bad about themselves bc they compare themselves to influencers
I thought I wasn't making any progress at all. I didn't feel like I'd changed after several years, then I realized that other guys arms were looking oddly skinny to me now. The change is so gradual you don't notice it.
I would've loved for him to interview some women too. Alot of women who start taking steroids don't realize how badly they lose the feminine qualities that they should be proud to embrace
There is a very small percentage of natty ifbb pros. More than likely people you never heard of and they’ll never be competing for the Olympia, but they’re out there
I'm so happy you took the time to make this vid. As a woman, Ive only seen videos talking about the female side of influencing and how much it can effect our self esteem, you dont often think about the other side and how men are effected. I got off social media about 2 weeks ago, I can't tell you the emotional difference it makes.
@@avy1 until they snap out of their delusion. That's my point, both are delusions and you would be surprised how fast an "optimist" that is not well informed can be tempted as well.
Dude, this video was so dishonest, and how honest are young people, male or female generally at that age. Most of these kids were regurgitating the general base line premise that all bodybuilders say and we’re just repeating the same shit buzz words that they hear. The black market, statistics and numbers say that 70% of this video is actually on them and lying. The black market numbers don’t support the statistics of how many people said yes and no in this video and wills testimony himself
My Son passed a little over a year ago at 29 from Cancer. Has been into building and competing in shows for about 5 years. He moved in with me to work with me a few years ago and found out he was on black market steroids. Not sure what he was taking but couple years later he was gone. No idea how long he had been on them he was a college wrestler and they kept pushing him to move up to unhealthy weight class to fill heavyweight position. I raised hell with the coach and he backed off he knew what he had coming lol. Son moved on from wrestling to get focus on building and pro competition. Our young men need leadership and only so much parents can do as they seek out influences outside of the home but ultimately its up to them to choose the life they desire. Ive been bodybuilding for the last 10 years with breaks for other endeavors and a nasty relapse w alcoholism. I wouldnt consider steroids as I accept my limitations and either Im blessed genetically or just put in the work and make healthy decisions but at 49 I continue to be in the best shape of my life! Praying for these young people to love themselves and see a bigger picture. But if thats what you want by all means knock yourself out! Rest easy Jr! 🙏✊❤
The dude at the beginning who said he is on it - wow, many kids barely going to a gym look better. Also many do not believe in genetics - some people do not need juice, ot is real, the just have miostatin mutation and that's it, those guys barely ned to train and have great gains.
I have a degree in Physical Education, I'm 33 years old, and I've been in a gym basically since I was 14. For someone who had a lot of passion for training, it's normal to consider it an option, but I was always conscious about my life and health. My education was always focused on health, not beauty. I've never used steroids, and I'm happy with my choice. I had an accident 5 years ago and have been inactive since then. I want to start training again, and your video came at the right time. It’s an inspiration for many people. Being natural is being happy, it’s being healthy-that's what really matters throughout life. Priorities always change, life hits hard, and things happen beyond our control, don't chose somethig for a passsional momment oir influence, you can regreat later. Don't use steroids.
What I've noticed 1. People don't really understand steroids and their implications. 2. Influencers who are open to using them don't often give you the negatives
There is also an interesting psychological effect that people underestimate how likely it is that they will have negativ side effects compared to similar people.
@@LukaLegend77 I’m middle aged so that isn’t a problem, but a lot of this crap is directed towards younger folks who are in a more impressionable long time of their lives.
Nah that's the best circumstance to do it. You gotta committ to the bit of being like that huge guy in the incredibles hunched in his tiny office cubicle.
13:00 -- just 21 years old and the guy looks like 30, only one year of natural training, for the "aesthetics"... gosh this is sad... we truly live in a superficial society. I don't blame him.
He said that he's been on steroids for 12 weeks at that time, I don't think it was enough time to make him look so much older. Probably genetics and facial hair. Though, he will probably look 40 in a couple years then, lol
He's 21 years old. That's precisely the age where you think you know everything and then 5-10 years later you realize you knew absolutely nothing at all. He said 70 and I was like oh gosh, he's so naive. More like 40, 50?? Like dude, your body is not going to withstand 25+ years of steroid use. Not happening. Interesting world we live in. A combination of people wanting instant gratification and an excessive need to look how everyone else looks and have what everyone else has. So disturbing it's almost like a movie. I haven't been a real social media user for 2+ years now and had no idea that this is what's been going on.
@@freetheworld001 It's like the bodybuilder at the end said, why would you put your body through that when you're not pro. At least the pro bodybuilders have a goal and and impressive physique, actually testing the limits of the human body. That 21yo just does it to get likes on instagram. I'm glad I grew up without social media
tbf as someone who does not use any form of social media maybe i am wrong, but does this stuff not appear on his feed constantly because he interacts with it? isnt the feed designed to show you stuff you engage with? could he in theory just unsubscribe from these roided fitness influencers and find others who are natural and try to "tune" his feed towards those peoples as rolemodels? best would probably be to stop using it alltogether, but with it being an addiction of that generation thats probably easier saId than done, but i always thought you have some sort of influence on whats shown on your feed depending on what content you engage with. might just be naive thinking on my part though, no idea.
Yeah I feel bad for him. Don’t know why the editor zoomed into his hands shaking, just no need to try and mock him for being nervous for being on camera or interviewed etc. Dudes 17 he needs to be guided and nurtured.
@@juliusfahlbusch3168 The way social media feeds are engineered, will often target your insecurities. The way we consume media is often negative focused, or basically risk aversion. Rather than viewing positive things, you're more likely to view things you AREN'T or that you can't achieve etc. You're slowely feeding yourself unrealistic goals and over times your views get warped. It's never a quick process and usually takes a bit of time, but it's insanely effective and it's why social media can be so ridiculousely lucrative. Especially impressionable teenagers, they are already insecure in who they are, they're trying to find themselves in the world, so they're really easy to convince. This isn't new at all to our society, but we haven't taken advantage or abused this fact to quite the extent that it's being done today.
As someone who's been taking steroids for almost 10 years now it has nothing to do with social media, i simply love being swole hahah + i enjoy the lifestyle and seeing the progress. Not everyone likes the idea of busting their ass in the gym daily for years, just to get minimal progress.
He is small for roid users, but hes already starting to get that roids look to him 12 weeks in. The whole body changes hitting that fast is kinda scary ngl
@@GooberPlatoonwhat is the "steroids look"? I'm more ripped and vascular than this guy and people always assume I'm on something. Caffeine is the only performance enhancing drug I've ever used
Yesterday I saw a very sad scenario that I don’t wish on anyone. A man in his late 40’s in a hospital room, after having a stroke, and his wife next to him. This guy is my husband’s buddy from his men’s Bible study group, and we went to visit him at the hospital. His poor wife was by his side taking care of him, cleaning the drool and the tears off his face, because right now he can’t move his arms good enough for that. Yesterday he was finally mumbling, last week he wasn’t even able to talk. The nurse was telling him that he needs to start practicing swallowing his saliva again, while he still has the tube of the tracheotomy attached to his neck. Thank God this couple doesn’t have kids, if they did, the kids would probably be high schoolers by now, or even older. It really broke my heart, and I started crying when we left the hospital. I made my husband promise that we would start to exercise more and eat healthier, because I don’t think I can be as strong as that woman and see the man I love go through all that. That’s to avoid the normal risk of heart disease or stroke, without even adding steroids, and increasing that chance - especially at a younger age. My husband’s friend is a healthy guy, healthy weight, he used to run daily. Like Will said, your priorities will change as you get older. Right now you don’t have a partner and you want to look strong and fit, but when you find that someone (because you will), then you won’t want to die early and leave them alone. Even worse, if you increase your chances of disease, you will likely have a lot of health complications that your loved one(s) will have to endure with you, before you whither away. It’s not like the young man said, that you live healthy until your 70, instead of dying of old age at 90. Chronic diseases eat up your quality of life, one day at a time. Not worth it, guys.
I've been getting steroid accusations since I was 16, I didn't start lifting until I was 20 😅 and I was getting even more accusations then. I didn't start gear until 23 and that's actually around the time I stopped getting as many accusations 😂 I can't imagine lifting at all and having people think I'm natty
You should do a video on people who are 50-70 who have done steroids to see if they regret it. Sad to hear that kid say “I’ll just call it quits at 70 instead of live to 90”
That one dude said it perfectly, why use roids and put yourself throught it if you dont plan on competing. So many guys shortening their lives just to sit at their 9-5
Sometimes for monetary reasons. When you’re jacked, you’ll more likely gain more followers on social media. More people are gonna buy your workout programs. You’ll have a better chance of getting a sponsor like gymshark and some supplement brand. And like it or not, being jacked means that you’ll be perceived as having more credibility when it comes to fitness and exercise. Who do you think more people would listen to for fitness advice? A skinnyfat natty who has a PhD in sports science, or a jacked dude with 3d delts and an 8 pack abs?
@@zahinazham you are right in that aspect being on steroids can help you make money on social media or if youre trying to be a pro bodybuilder but you can get plenty of social media followers as a fitness influencer just being natural. you can look amazing natural too
The ending, I felt like you read my mind like a book. Started gym in my 15, thought i hit my peak in my 19 and i thought there's no life outside bodybuilding. 2 workouts a day, committed to diet and sleep and bought my first Ana, went straight to my gym partner and got humiliated, so grateful for this. Wasted all of that and never looked back. Had a breakup coming year and left gym completely. Today, I'm still perfectly fit with no gym for prolly 6+ years and those who were on roids in my gym either looks bad as possible or no longer alive. I have seen so many people not even reaching their 40s and that's more than enough for me to say NO to it for rest of my life. "Your priorities change" you just spoke the hardest truth for 99% of people.
This guy goes to my gym. He coaches his younger brother who is probably 12-14 years old. He will literally be panting out of breath sitting down on the quad extension machine while his brother does calf raises beside him. I do not think I have ever seen him actually work out but he is always sweaty and out of breath...
Yes gasp and better bodies is a body building brand. He is having trouble breathing because he’s training hard and using the gear to the fullest potential.
I feel like this is the dude version of "would you try ozempic" or "have you considered plastic surgery" for women. It really shows how all of us are looks obsessed and social media is killing individuality and self confidence.
@@cirilomedina1474why wouldn’t it be different though? We know for a fact steroids are unhealthy to the point where studies lead to IQ degradation. Semaglutides have been around and haven’t had drastic negative effects like that
What does it mean by 60% heart failure? 60% chance of getting a heart attack now or 60 % of your heart is not functioning properly? (Sorry for my poor English)
he's talking about EF (ejection fraction) for left heart ventricle. It's measuring % of blood pumped vs blood left in the ventricle during/after heart beat. If you get under 40%, that's usually an indicator of heart failure. You need implants for your heart to work properly, high risk of heart attacks, etc...).
I do. No shame. I lost a bunch of weight and have shaped up since. My perception of my body changes on an almost daily basis so I know not to believe myself on the bad days. Other people I know have noticed and given me compliments. I have my goals and will keep working towards those while in the meantime feeling pretty great and accomplished. Don't believe your lying eyes!
@@gladitsnotme Considering those calling him a dick are also males, it doesn’t really work that way. In the same way not all women fill themselves with Botox
I think a lot of them are embarrassed to admit theyre on it and it doesn’t really show lol. It wont really without years of it or hard work too, but you can def just do steroids and casually lift and look pretty natural I think.
@@Zulay092 no shit Sherlock? He loves lifting, so he looks up lifting content. It's almost impossible for algorithm driven platforms to look at nuances. So to look up lifting and only pull natty? These algorithms are not designed for that.
heh, well it really seems true. Hypersexuality leads to less discriminating tastes. They seem to get especially obsessed with the transgenders. Steroids are a drug of the mind as well as the body. The side effects are real, but the responsibility is still yours alone.
fitness influencers have done catastrophic to this generations physical health by their use and peddling of gear. Disgusting. That last guy with the huge forearms saying "why put your body through the stress of being a competitive bodybuilder if you're not going to compete" which hits the nail on the head.
@@maggiepp7997 I agree, it makes the people who actually made real natural results always feel small even though they're actually big and strong and have actually done better job than all these fake insecure roiders.
I dunno how old you are but as a 34 yo dude who been lifting for the last 20 years, people were using gear way before social media, i dont think the ratio changed.
@@yoanbertrand7926 It did change and demographic has expanded as well. Before it were some dedicated bodybuilders, lifters, bouncers and insecure morons. Social media pulled in many young and valuable people who wouldn't do it if they didn't see super jacked guys on daily basis. It has similar effect as super hot girls on social media, magazines, adverts etc. has on women.
Its not just that but also culture around it. I saw a guy on Instagram saying he was working out for 7 years. He had great arms, abs and shoulders but his pecs were super weird and small. My instant thought was that he has weird anatomy but overall its good. Man was i not prepared for that comment section..... EVERYBODY was piling up on him that he was just not working out at all, how crappy his training is etc. Its not just influencers, culture has to change around what a good body is.
i feel like organ issues are pretty commonly brought up by a lot of people. It's pretty common knowledge. I'd say gyno is less commonly known about than the added stress on organs.
Fr bro I'm 23 and just looking to loose weight 😂 but building muscle is something else, for these guys it's like becoming richer and richer and never ending place
Putting fitness side for one second, you are actually a really good interviewer. Your follow up questions get people to open up and explain more without leading them down a path.
Will, I’m a life long natural lifter at 56 years old. You are very wise. Thank you for speaking out. The younger generation needs more influencers like you.
It’s so sad to see people say they would be happy to shorten their lives to look good for a few years. People are worth so much more than how they look.
If you're scared of comparing yourself to others, it means you subconsciously know that you're inferior to them. Comparison and competition is essential in all aspects of life.
@@RashFever26 I agree in part on what you said, but it doesn't mean that if I don't compare my self to others, I'm automatically inferior to them... maybe I'm just focused on me. At the end of the day I live by me and for me, so ok comparing for the sake of doing better, but it doesn't have to become an obsession in a way that I start living by that. Healthy comparison could be okay, but I think focusing of yourself and who you were yesterday is a better way of comparing yourself with "someone else".
In the words of my older brother when I asked him about steroids as I grew up: "Just workout hard and don't be a bitch". Never even looked at steroids after that
It's only the first thing he sees on social media because he's searching for that all the time. I've never seen a picture of a jacked dude on my Instagram
I feel like depression is also leading a lot of guys towards taking steroids. Lot of depressed guys don't expect to make it to 30, let alone 60, so they say "why the hell not?"
Nothing to do with depression. They are all looking for a fast road to being jacked. The problem is that most of them do not understand how unnatural it looks.
@@Art-is-craftan inferiority complex is definitely linked to depression, I don't see how you can argue otherwise. Feeling insignificant and disillusioned with the world one is born into
@@BigBadJerryRogers Most users of steroids just want the look and want a quick road to it. Nothing else. Some could be depressed but that is not the majority. Most want the athletic look without the athletics.
@@Art-is-craft it's quite literally been proven that a good majority of men who start taking steroids usually have mental health problems/depression. Why are you trying to deny real statistics and objective facts?? 😂😂
If you don't have the self-control to avoid pushing yourself too hard in the gym, something like Primo would probably decrease injury risk by enabling you to recover from the excessive training you were going to do anyway.
@@revert5651 I'm no expert but I don't think they weaken your tendons. I think steroids can grow your muscles at such a fast rate that your tendons can't keep up and that's when the injuries start to happen
@@revert5651 training with insufficiently recovered muscles also risks muscle tears. I think the net effect of relatively refined steroids could be beneficial for some people.
I’m 19 myself and I was close to take steroids not too long ago. I already informed myself about what to take and already looked at studies and even had them in my shopping card at one point. Social media is not so much the problem that it influences me directly, it’s much more the people around me who think you have to be 220 pounds lean and jacked. I’m much more confident taking my shirt off but people saying “you skinny” or “this and that guy is so much bigger and better then you” really hurt when you hear it too often cause I’m really giving my best. Why am I not on gear now? It’s because of people like you who do videos like that and because of my ex bf who always complemented me for my physique and also another boi a few days ago who liked how I look and said I’m “hot”. It’s people like you and them that always get me back on track so thank you, really
If you train properly for enough years, even if you look "skinny" for the average gym rats, you would still be way hotter and muscular than at least 80% of males
Stay healthy kiddo (I say as a 35 year old woman)! You're beautiful as you are. Keeping fit without 'roids is SO much hotter. Being Big isn't necessary for being sexy or for being athletic. Lift safe. Eat healthy. Sleep well. Win :)
Also, the teen kids didn't once say he sees those same really jacked people in person, he just referred to social media. They can't any longer see the difference between real life and the total fakeness of social media. So imagine that goes with they don't think about the consequences at all.
What if you only did 1 heavily controlled cycle? Is your life ruined at that point? Should someone just call it quits because they used steroids once? Should they dig a grave and sit in it until they succumb to the inevitable repercussions of their misguided decisions?
Man, I’m glad this side of information is also being released to the masses. I am a natural competitive bodybuilder in Australia and have been training for over a decade. The amount of young kids I have come into my gym and asking or enquiring about steroids because of seeing influencers on social media. Also the train of thought that “It’s healthier to do it this way” bruh… Thanks Will for making this video ❤
I'm 39. Started TRT within this year. It was not due to a desire for mussel growth, but due to low libido, low energy and tendency to depression. TRT has helped me a lot, and the side effects have been liveable. I am happy I never did it when I was young, but also happy that it is helping me now.
I respect the guys with shittier physiques that didn't lie about their steroid usage, more than the bigger guys that clearly lied about it. And there was quite a few of them.
@linussorensen00 bro... welcome to African genetics... plenty guys from African heritage who've never ever been to the gym looking better than guys that regularly go! He could be using but he legit most likely isn't and is just built to be a tank.
Im almost 35 and going to the gym since I was 23. The natty potential is higher then most would think by just being smart about the traininglifestyle and being consistent.
When people say, "I've reached my natty potential," I hear, "I no longer want to make changes to my diet, exercise, or lifestyle." They are nowhere near their actual, physical limits.
Yeah you fail to realize we are talking about western civilization here. Everything from the moment you are born and grow in this culture is all about me. What can I do to get the maximum results with the least amount of work. Who can I back stab to gain for myself? What’s lifted that message more than anything ever before is social media. So no matter what you’re gonna have people who would rather have their 15 mins of fame than to live a humble life.
What if you don't reach your natty potential but get to a physique that you really like and feel happy with? I just want to put on 20lbs of muscle or honestly even 15lbs would be great for me.
Steroids make you look more like a real man. If you don't have a high level without taking anything, using steroids actually helps you look like a man. Women want men, not boys.
Just want to clear up what dude said in the video. Steroids aren't turning you gay, you were already gay. The increased libido side effect just pulled you out the closet
21 year old trained for 1 year natural, starts doing steroids, "i don't mind taking a bit off my life, rather be strong and get to 70, than 90 and decrepit". Bro if you take for 70 years you're not going to get close to that age, and if not, then you're not trading strength for age, as when you stop, you're not really stronger when your hormones do not help you anymore. It's crazy that so many steroid users rationalize because they imagine they are gonna live for 100 years without, and steroids will only take a couple of "bad" years off in the end of their life, bro that's not how it works, getting a blood clot in the brain at 27, dying from liver or kidney failure at 32, or getting a massive heart attack at 44 is not anything like you imagine now is it? Waking up from a coma at 34 to live the rest of your life as a vegetable with major brain damage is not like this..
this is the biggest misconception that exists. they think that it’ll shave a few bad years off their life. no. it takes away from your healthy years. you’ll age to be miserable faster.
@@JT-yx7vfthese guys don’t know what they’re talking about. They don’t consider these people having different genetics. What are their family’s genetic outliers? Do they have heart conditions in the family? Is there other common issues? People just think “steroids and die”.
Great video, excellent message at the end. Social media is destroying true human happiness which is not dependent on physical appearance. The majority of a human being's life is lived on the inside
1 year natty before gear kid genuinely made me sad. I’m in my 30s, been training for years, already have a wife and kids and STILL any time i think about gear immediately talk myself out of it because i know i can improve my diet and training and still dont want the extra risks. That said nearly every damn day social media makes me think about it
Then get off social media, or create a new account and don't follow or look at that type of shit. It's probably the best thing you can do for both your mental and physical health.
Being able to lift 500lbs is a crazy achievement tho. I get why its attractive to some people. But I want kids and a fairly long life so steroids is a no no
Lifting 500lbs isnt, but looking good is. Finding a partner in the current hellscape is near impossible if you dont look good, and the standards have gotten so warped that even being lean with a good amount of muscle isnt cutting it anymore.
@@taylorhillard4868 you sure tho? Tom Holland has a lean physique, not a LOT of muscle but I bet the ladies are loving his physique. So I think that being above average is enough. Have a six pack, a good chest and good legs and you’re good Id say
@@NandoFIT-df8ly No he didn't stop spreading lies. Jeff is currently on a one year journey to see his full natural potential. Watch the video before commenting nonsense.
@@NandoFIT-df8lylol no he didn't he was just talking about steroids, he competes tested in the natural divisions. If you watched his video he talks about why he wouldn't take them and he considered it a long time ago.
I've reached my genetic ceiling once in my lifetime when I was around age 26 after lifting for around 10 years. It is hard to do. As an advanced lifter you have to be really in tune with your body to know when to change things up here and there to keep making small gains over time as it feels like you are navigating your way carefully around plateau after plateau. But in doing so I got way bigger then I ever thought I could and literally no one believed I was natural lol
Good on you will for being an influencer that’s honest about steroids, and honestly crazy that most of these ppl are thinking about the really insignificant consequences like hair loss and acne but not the life threatening consequences. Having no ambitions of professional bodybuilding and risking your life simply to look better will always be an insane choice for me that people make
I don’t think he’s aware that he’s falling into the trap though. He just said I wanna be like random guys on social media. Probably to get girls or to just appear bigger for his friends. But in all honesty, I don’t think most girls wanna date a guy that looks as big as the rock. He’ll find that out the hard way when he still gets no girls
A marble sculptor made their art through hardwork and perseverance. If they can reveal the beauty of a stone with only a hammer and chisel, you can reveal your beauty with just dumbells and barbells.
I'm 70.Took 44 radiation treatments for prostate cancer. Dr. Won't even let me take testostorone supplements. But I still lift weights and want to be swole! I wont quit!! 5 grams creatine everyday, 200 grams of protein everyday. 💪
"Just workout and eat, it's literally that simple" - Love ihat. It really comes down to working out for health vs. working out for aesthetics. Both can be achieved naturally, the difference is time.
it's that simple FOR SOME people, i responded extremely well to lifting when i was younger, but i saw waaaaaaaaay too many people who didn't respond well to training and i could totally see them getting on steroids just to see SOMETHING happen to their body
@@notimportant3686 I agree that everyone is different, but I also say that everyone needs to find what works for them. I'm 61 and have been working out inconsistently my whole life. Only NOW am I seeing progress because I am being more consistent with minimal workouts and better nutrition. My goal is to be healthy first, the benefit of that is looking great. I look better now than I ever have. In my younger years I was tempted by steroids because I wasn't willing to put the work into it as much as it required, but never crossed that line. I still think, "Should I? I probably won't live long enough to suffer the side effects, but it could kill me faster".
"Just workout and eat" is great advice to look like Kyriakos Grizzly. The amount of mental energy needed to spend on food restriction alone is like 90% of bodybuilding.
@@notimportant3686Nah its like that for all people. Were all human beings with potential and limitations. Calories in vs calories out. Move more eat less it really is very simple. Quality of food also matters. Eat better
Social media is such a big problem, no matter the community youre in u are always exposed to the best of the best at what you do, making you feel bad about yourself, deleting all of media except obv youtube has been one of the best decisions ive made
@@rafmatt1607you must be delusional 😂… nobody I’ve ever seen gasping after a set like that! I’ve only seen juice heads do this, it’s the roid breath gasp!
shoutout to the 1 guy at 18min who talked about not wanting to cheapen his achievements. Nothing compares to the confidence, discipline, self-respect, and character that's built from putting in the work yourself and not relying on something else to do it for you.
hit the nail on the head 🎯, it's why I've never considered taking steroids, A) because of the potential health issues B) because I'd rather work hard at something and know I earnt it rather than taking the easy route, I would never be satisfied doing that
yeah, if all else fails my pride and stubbornness of wanting to achieve everything myself would never let me touch steroids id rather be less muscular and know I did it myself
Nice one. Recently discovered your channel through your colab with magnus and really admire how you are using your platform to curiously and kindly investigate challenging issues.
Absolute legend with this video mate. The amount of people you've swayed into not doing PEDs with this thought provoking social analysis is life-changing, as I'd say the majority of people considering likely are impulsive in nature and don't really think about/probably ignore the long-term/cons. Your message at the end was chef's kiss.
@@conormayweather5474 yes there is definitely something wrong with taking test wtf. Where are you hearing this from. If you take test from a young enough age(before 30 at least) your balls will shrivel up and your body will stop telling the testes glands to produce testostorone naturally. Some people may have to take external testostorone for their entire lives and struggle with erectile dysfunction. Dont fucking take test unless your doctor says you need it.
@@conormayweather5474exogenous test is just as bad as any other steroid. Youre still gonna experience side effects while on it and hormone deficiencies when you get off of it
No. Its not the problem. The way they talk about steroids and social media. Is social medias fault. They blame it all on social media. Dont be influenced- that simple.
great Video man, good to see you educating people honestly. i would say 95% of male gym goers at least consider it, but videos like this pound home the point that its not worth it. Guy near the end who made a great point also, if you're not competing, why wold you even put yourself through that .
Thank you for creating such an educational video and I loved the care you have for gym-goers to be mindful of their health. All respect and regards from Scotland
"Would you ever take steroids?'
"I'm on steroids."
"Really?"
Ruined that man's day lmao
Will is just gaslighting him. Will is a fake natty.
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Is it possible to gains muscle like sam sulek without steroids?
@@KarinEmala No
That’s 95 percent of guys they don’t look like it cause they don’t eat
feel really bad for that dude who said he’s been training for 7 years and then said “even though you can’t tell” even tho he looks great. people are just blinded by social media standards and feel bad about themselves bc they compare themselves to influencers
Comparison is the thief of joy
I thought I wasn't making any progress at all. I didn't feel like I'd changed after several years, then I realized that other guys arms were looking oddly skinny to me now.
The change is so gradual you don't notice it.
I heard Greg Doucette(hope I spelt that right) say, "Comparing yourself to other is the thief of joy". Something I thought were wise words.
I kinda thought he was just referring to himself being in a sweatshirt at the time...
I would've loved for him to interview some women too. Alot of women who start taking steroids don't realize how badly they lose the feminine qualities that they should be proud to embrace
"he's an ifbb pro and he's natural" i guess people really are gullible
But he's the same nationality as me, so there's no way he's using steroids!!!
Tbh I think Jeff seid turned pro naturally. You can't do it today since the standards are crazy
@@pus915 Jeff Seid wasn't natural in 2011.
There is a very small percentage of natty ifbb pros. More than likely people you never heard of and they’ll never be competing for the Olympia, but they’re out there
@@vanechi Dude seriously? You think his nationality is going to stop him from taking gear? This aint the 60`s , dont you have eyes?
I'm so happy you took the time to make this vid. As a woman, Ive only seen videos talking about the female side of influencing and how much it can effect our self esteem, you dont often think about the other side and how men are effected. I got off social media about 2 weeks ago, I can't tell you the emotional difference it makes.
Yeah you are smart keep on this way
Temporary gains, life long regrets.
Facts
Well said. Completely messes up the body's balance.
Spoken like someone who truly has no idea on the subject xD
No regrets here! 😝
Life is temporary
Poor Indian dude. Thinking that IFBB Pro is natural. Hes been completely hoodwinked.
The way he described LA Fitness was SPOT ON.
it's better to be too optimistic over what you can achieve naturally than to be pessimistic about it
@@avy1 both are bad, both lead to body dysmorphia
@@Crazy09starkillorsure but pessimism will cause 18 year olds to hop on gear. Optimists will just think they’re small.
Haha fr 😂
@@avy1 until they snap out of their delusion. That's my point, both are delusions and you would be surprised how fast an "optimist" that is not well informed can be tempted as well.
This video is actually way sadder than I thought.
It was better than I thought, a lot of people looked into the harmful long term effects on the body
Dysmorphia is wild..sad that these kids are feeling this way at their age.
Really is
Dude, this video was so dishonest, and how honest are young people, male or female generally at that age. Most of these kids were regurgitating the general base line premise that all bodybuilders say and we’re just repeating the same shit buzz words that they hear. The black market, statistics and numbers say that 70% of this video is actually on them and lying. The black market numbers don’t support the statistics of how many people said yes and no in this video and wills testimony himself
Lmao off at all of the average looking kids on steroids
My Son passed a little over a year ago at 29 from Cancer. Has been into building and competing in shows for about 5 years. He moved in with me to work with me a few years ago and found out he was on black market steroids. Not sure what he was taking but couple years later he was gone. No idea how long he had been on them he was a college wrestler and they kept pushing him to move up to unhealthy weight class to fill heavyweight position. I raised hell with the coach and he backed off he knew what he had coming lol. Son moved on from wrestling to get focus on building and pro competition. Our young men need leadership and only so much parents can do as they seek out influences outside of the home but ultimately its up to them to choose the life they desire. Ive been bodybuilding for the last 10 years with breaks for other endeavors and a nasty relapse w alcoholism. I wouldnt consider steroids as I accept my limitations and either Im blessed genetically or just put in the work and make healthy decisions but at 49 I continue to be in the best shape of my life! Praying for these young people to love themselves and see a bigger picture. But if thats what you want by all means knock yourself out! Rest easy Jr! 🙏✊❤
Wow that's so sad. I wish you all he best 😔🙏
😢
I go to the gym to improve my health. Taking steroids would be contradictory, so a big NO for me.
How often do you do serious cardio then? Cuz adding a bunch of muscle.. really doesn't mean much, generally speaking, to your health.
@@SoulMaxxing twice a week, plus I use the bicycle for many of my daily routes.
@@SoulMaxxingdumbest shit ive read today
What about trt for later in life?
😇 👼 😇
The needle bin in the gym is crazy I’ve never heard of that
It's required for diabetics and other people with medical issues. It's a suggested OSHA health and safety practice.
PureGym in the uk have them
This one gyn I went to had one in the bathroom. It was literally installed for roid usage because someone kept leaving their needles in the trash.
@Mac-og2hj yeah was gonna say Pure have them, which is good... although why the hell people are pinning at the gym vs home is insane... 😂
It’s wild, but it’s better than people throwing it in the trash and giving employees a nasty infection when they are throwing the bags out.
Insecurity is killing this world.
The dude at the beginning who said he is on it - wow, many kids barely going to a gym look better. Also many do not believe in genetics - some people do not need juice, ot is real, the just have miostatin mutation and that's it, those guys barely ned to train and have great gains.
(((insecurity)))
Probably more so our environments and the chemicals in it, mainly our food.
@@snugzgiddens3238 this also is true.
And Envy
I have a degree in Physical Education, I'm 33 years old, and I've been in a gym basically since I was 14. For someone who had a lot of passion for training, it's normal to consider it an option, but I was always conscious about my life and health. My education was always focused on health, not beauty. I've never used steroids, and I'm happy with my choice. I had an accident 5 years ago and have been inactive since then. I want to start training again, and your video came at the right time. It’s an inspiration for many people. Being natural is being happy, it’s being healthy-that's what really matters throughout life. Priorities always change, life hits hard, and things happen beyond our control, don't chose somethig for a passsional momment oir influence, you can regreat later. Don't use steroids.
What I've noticed
1. People don't really understand steroids and their implications.
2. Influencers who are open to using them don't often give you the negatives
I agree
Except Noel Deyzel the goat
90% promote them, by thier lifestyle and making tiktoks videos about them injecting it and saying side effets are getting jacked
There is also an interesting psychological effect that people underestimate how likely it is that they will have negativ side effects compared to similar people.
@@DKsHighlights THE GOAT fr
Social media is poison.
Been looking for this comment, take the like
You are inside one, genius
I started working out way before social media even existed, and I was still tempted by steroids lol
or just think for yourself n stop being so impressionable
@@LukaLegend77 I’m middle aged so that isn’t a problem, but a lot of this crap is directed towards younger folks who are in a more impressionable long time of their lives.
Imagine getting yolked on steroids just to go work a 9-5 desk job
Nah that's the best circumstance to do it. You gotta committ to the bit of being like that huge guy in the incredibles hunched in his tiny office cubicle.
you sound fat
Worst yet: imagine taking steroids and not getting jacked and just looking like an average dude. Bummer.
@@FitnessAfter40 Almost as if it still requires hard work when you're using something.
@@JT-yx7vfdef isn’t hard work. You gotta put in about half so if you still can’t do it then it says a lot
13:00 -- just 21 years old and the guy looks like 30, only one year of natural training, for the "aesthetics"... gosh this is sad... we truly live in a superficial society. I don't blame him.
Doesnt look 30 tf
@@Hoodrichpablo8he looks 30, but facial hair makes people look older too.
He said that he's been on steroids for 12 weeks at that time, I don't think it was enough time to make him look so much older. Probably genetics and facial hair. Though, he will probably look 40 in a couple years then, lol
He literally looks 22 y'all are weird.
Like if he shaved theyd put him in a Nickelodeon or Disney show about being in highschool and call him "16"
“70 is good enough” get back to me when you’re in your 60s and it feels like time just flew by.
He's 21 years old. That's precisely the age where you think you know everything and then 5-10 years later you realize you knew absolutely nothing at all. He said 70 and I was like oh gosh, he's so naive. More like 40, 50?? Like dude, your body is not going to withstand 25+ years of steroid use. Not happening.
Interesting world we live in. A combination of people wanting instant gratification and an excessive need to look how everyone else looks and have what everyone else has. So disturbing it's almost like a movie. I haven't been a real social media user for 2+ years now and had no idea that this is what's been going on.
@@freetheworld001 looking like everyone else is easy, because everyone is fat 😂.
@@BHarris25 Fitness influencers on TikTok/UA-cam/Instagram are not fat bud
@@freetheworld001 It's like the bodybuilder at the end said, why would you put your body through that when you're not pro. At least the pro bodybuilders have a goal and and impressive physique, actually testing the limits of the human body. That 21yo just does it to get likes on instagram. I'm glad I grew up without social media
70 is average but this guy's inflated ego thinks 90 is average... he lives to his 50s and 60s now and thinks he's going to be 70s and 80s
Bless that first kid’s heart. At 17 years old, I love that he was honest and made it known how much social media plays a role in influencing.
tbf as someone who does not use any form of social media maybe i am wrong, but does this stuff not appear on his feed constantly because he interacts with it? isnt the feed designed to show you stuff you engage with? could he in theory just unsubscribe from these roided fitness influencers and find others who are natural and try to "tune" his feed towards those peoples as rolemodels? best would probably be to stop using it alltogether, but with it being an addiction of that generation thats probably easier saId than done, but i always thought you have some sort of influence on whats shown on your feed depending on what content you engage with. might just be naive thinking on my part though, no idea.
Yeah I feel bad for him. Don’t know why the editor zoomed into his hands shaking, just no need to try and mock him for being nervous for being on camera or interviewed etc. Dudes 17 he needs to be guided and nurtured.
@@juliusfahlbusch3168 The way social media feeds are engineered, will often target your insecurities. The way we consume media is often negative focused, or basically risk aversion. Rather than viewing positive things, you're more likely to view things you AREN'T or that you can't achieve etc. You're slowely feeding yourself unrealistic goals and over times your views get warped. It's never a quick process and usually takes a bit of time, but it's insanely effective and it's why social media can be so ridiculousely lucrative.
Especially impressionable teenagers, they are already insecure in who they are, they're trying to find themselves in the world, so they're really easy to convince. This isn't new at all to our society, but we haven't taken advantage or abused this fact to quite the extent that it's being done today.
@@juliusfahlbusch3168 whatever you look at the most will be fed to you, correct.
As someone who's been taking steroids for almost 10 years now it has nothing to do with social media, i simply love being swole hahah + i enjoy the lifestyle and seeing the progress. Not everyone likes the idea of busting their ass in the gym daily for years, just to get minimal progress.
Asking if you'll consider using steroids to someone who is on steroids is the worst insult ever lol
He is small for roid users, but hes already starting to get that roids look to him 12 weeks in. The whole body changes hitting that fast is kinda scary ngl
@@GooberPlatoonin a year he's going to look like 49 probably older
@@jago09and much bigger
@@GooberPlatoonwhat is the "steroids look"? I'm more ripped and vascular than this guy and people always assume I'm on something. Caffeine is the only performance enhancing drug I've ever used
Don’t do steroids
Yesterday I saw a very sad scenario that I don’t wish on anyone. A man in his late 40’s in a hospital room, after having a stroke, and his wife next to him. This guy is my husband’s buddy from his men’s Bible study group, and we went to visit him at the hospital. His poor wife was by his side taking care of him, cleaning the drool and the tears off his face, because right now he can’t move his arms good enough for that. Yesterday he was finally mumbling, last week he wasn’t even able to talk. The nurse was telling him that he needs to start practicing swallowing his saliva again, while he still has the tube of the tracheotomy attached to his neck. Thank God this couple doesn’t have kids, if they did, the kids would probably be high schoolers by now, or even older. It really broke my heart, and I started crying when we left the hospital. I made my husband promise that we would start to exercise more and eat healthier, because I don’t think I can be as strong as that woman and see the man I love go through all that. That’s to avoid the normal risk of heart disease or stroke, without even adding steroids, and increasing that chance - especially at a younger age. My husband’s friend is a healthy guy, healthy weight, he used to run daily.
Like Will said, your priorities will change as you get older. Right now you don’t have a partner and you want to look strong and fit, but when you find that someone (because you will), then you won’t want to die early and leave them alone. Even worse, if you increase your chances of disease, you will likely have a lot of health complications that your loved one(s) will have to endure with you, before you whither away. It’s not like the young man said, that you live healthy until your 70, instead of dying of old age at 90. Chronic diseases eat up your quality of life, one day at a time. Not worth it, guys.
Is there ANYTHING WORSE than being on roids and looking natural? This has to be as bad as smoking. Zero upsides with all the downsides.
Stupid comment
😂😂100%
Bruh... MOST people on roids look natural... 😂😂😂 A lot of people that use gear don't have NEAR enough knowledge on it, etc. smh. 🤦🏼♂️
I've been getting steroid accusations since I was 16, I didn't start lifting until I was 20 😅 and I was getting even more accusations then. I didn't start gear until 23 and that's actually around the time I stopped getting as many accusations 😂
I can't imagine lifting at all and having people think I'm natty
@@MDR2657 Getting what you paid for as a jackass 😂😂
You should do a video on people who are 50-70 who have done steroids to see if they regret it. Sad to hear that kid say “I’ll just call it quits at 70 instead of live to 90”
The closer they get to 70, ill bet most will be regretting their decision.
It's sad seeing people past their 70s who basically aren't human anymore.
Bros gonna get to 70. Have multiple health issues and regret his decisions 💀
Shame they’ll be missing out on two extra decades of mental, physical deterioration and social isolation
I think 70 is generous. Many steroid users have died at like 40-50 and some much earlier
That one dude said it perfectly, why use roids and put yourself throught it if you dont plan on competing. So many guys shortening their lives just to sit at their 9-5
I used to work with this dude that was doing trt and hgh and looked like crap. He worked at Amazon with me and constantly tried to sell me trt
Sometimes for monetary reasons. When you’re jacked, you’ll more likely gain more followers on social media. More people are gonna buy your workout programs. You’ll have a better chance of getting a sponsor like gymshark and some supplement brand.
And like it or not, being jacked means that you’ll be perceived as having more credibility when it comes to fitness and exercise. Who do you think more people would listen to for fitness advice? A skinnyfat natty who has a PhD in sports science, or a jacked dude with 3d delts and an 8 pack abs?
@@zahinazham you are right in that aspect being on steroids can help you make money on social media or if youre trying to be a pro bodybuilder but you can get plenty of social media followers as a fitness influencer just being natural. you can look amazing natural too
Especially the ones who don’t see any decent results. Blows my mind. Body dysmorphia is a real thing though.
@@bilindabutcher8913 definitely. Especially the more mature audience. But the kids dont look at credentials. They look at physique
The ending, I felt like you read my mind like a book.
Started gym in my 15, thought i hit my peak in my 19 and i thought there's no life outside bodybuilding.
2 workouts a day, committed to diet and sleep and bought my first Ana, went straight to my gym partner and got humiliated, so grateful for this. Wasted all of that and never looked back.
Had a breakup coming year and left gym completely.
Today, I'm still perfectly fit with no gym for prolly 6+ years and those who were on roids in my gym either looks bad as possible or no longer alive.
I have seen so many people not even reaching their 40s and that's more than enough for me to say NO to it for rest of my life.
"Your priorities change" you just spoke the hardest truth for 99% of people.
The guy on steroids who can barley breath having “gasp” on his shirt is ironic
Only thing this guy runs from is a treadmill.
Also that bro doesn't even have a lot of hair to lose, guess he wants to be bald by the time he is 23.
He sounds like if he got into an argument he might pass out
This guy goes to my gym. He coaches his younger brother who is probably 12-14 years old. He will literally be panting out of breath sitting down on the quad extension machine while his brother does calf raises beside him. I do not think I have ever seen him actually work out but he is always sweaty and out of breath...
Yes gasp and better bodies is a body building brand. He is having trouble breathing because he’s training hard and using the gear to the fullest potential.
I feel like this is the dude version of "would you try ozempic" or "have you considered plastic surgery" for women. It really shows how all of us are looks obsessed and social media is killing individuality and self confidence.
Exactly, it’s the same concept. But steroids are demonized while ozempic and surgeries are common topics for women 🤷🏻♂️
@@cirilomedina1474they are insane.
@@cirilomedina1474why wouldn’t it be different though? We know for a fact steroids are unhealthy to the point where studies lead to IQ degradation. Semaglutides have been around and haven’t had drastic negative effects like that
@@cirilomedina1474lol ozempic is NOT a common topic for women 😂
@@miaomiaou_ come live in California then say that 🤷🏻♂️🤣🤦🏻♂️
I have done about 20 cycles in 30's. I'm 54 now. I have 60% heart failure. DONT DO IT.
wow. maybe you need to talk to that 21 year old.
What does it mean by 60% heart failure? 60% chance of getting a heart attack now or 60 % of your heart is not functioning properly? (Sorry for my poor English)
When you say cycle how much dose and of what types were you taking at once, thanks
@@Yatoplayjay It means his heart has 40% win rate
he's talking about EF (ejection fraction) for left heart ventricle. It's measuring % of blood pumped vs blood left in the ventricle during/after heart beat.
If you get under 40%, that's usually an indicator of heart failure. You need implants for your heart to work properly, high risk of heart attacks, etc...).
I was not expecting how young these guys were gonna be. This video really shows how easily insecurity can destroy you
social media will be the biggest downfall to this generation.
It already is.
Too late….😂😂😂
Men are all wanting steroids and women are getting wild surgeries.
Happened since Covid buddy
The pendulum will swing, and the generation after them will stay off of social media I believe
Lots of dudes on here not knowing they have body dysmorphia
I know I have body dysmorphia but there’s still not much you can do about it
I do. No shame. I lost a bunch of weight and have shaped up since. My perception of my body changes on an almost daily basis so I know not to believe myself on the bad days. Other people I know have noticed and given me compliments. I have my goals and will keep working towards those while in the meantime feeling pretty great and accomplished. Don't believe your lying eyes!
That 21 year old - A YEAR INTO TRAINING. I feel so bad for him.
@@Ghajahhayou can unplug from your unhealthy lifestyle and go another way
Ken Burridge has body dysmorphia thats why he is an Onlyfans fraudster!
Training for a year at 21 years old and then hopping on a cycle is the dumbest thing I"ve heard this year. My god... Idiotic behaviour.
Exactly. "F my beginner gains!" 😅
They are 21. Ofc many of them will do the dumbest things.
Males ☕
@@gladitsnotme Considering those calling him a dick are also males, it doesn’t really work that way. In the same way not all women fill themselves with Botox
I know a dude who never even trained and hopped on. Started taking them the day he set foot in the gym. Ridiculous.
7:50 big bro cannot say 4 words without being exhausted :(
Most of these dudes are already on it. Especially the ones that look 40 but are 22. That’s wild.
It's insane how old most of these guys look
Gen Z is the oldest looking gen ever because they keep getting scammed into doing all this dumb stuff with chemicals.
I think a lot of them are embarrassed to admit theyre on it and it doesn’t really show lol. It wont really without years of it or hard work too, but you can def just do steroids and casually lift and look pretty natural I think.
That 21 yo Asian is probably on it. He looks way too old to be 21
Facts
Shoutout to the 17 year old kid: YOU'RE FXCKING KILLING IT DUDE!!!
He definitely is
Thank you bro
Yeah, but the only reason he's social media feed shows buff guys, it's because hes been searching and clicking on that content. it's not a coincidence
@@Zulay092 no shit Sherlock? He loves lifting, so he looks up lifting content.
It's almost impossible for algorithm driven platforms to look at nuances. So to look up lifting and only pull natty? These algorithms are not designed for that.
Suomi!
Imagine tellings your mrs, "its not my fault, the roids made me gay".
“Was my Blood pressure medication I can get a dr note tone!” 😂…
heh, well it really seems true. Hypersexuality leads to less discriminating tastes. They seem to get especially obsessed with the transgenders. Steroids are a drug of the mind as well as the body. The side effects are real, but the responsibility is still yours alone.
Did your roids make you type that idiotic statement linking steroids and gay sexuality?
Idk why but saying “the mrs” is cute
Hahaha
"90 is too old 70 is long enough" bro good luck even getting there.
I’ve always lived by the saying “ take shortcuts, get cut short” steroids is a prime example
Exactly
Ehh, for some people, like strongmen, it’s worth it.
Some people just want to live differently.
@@thetechrealistyah for sure idk peoples choices are there own it’s not the worst thing
fitness influencers have done catastrophic to this generations physical health by their use and peddling of gear. Disgusting. That last guy with the huge forearms saying "why put your body through the stress of being a competitive bodybuilder if you're not going to compete" which hits the nail on the head.
The worst is the denying of use, and making an average joe think it’s achievable naturally…
@@maggiepp7997 I agree, it makes the people who actually made real natural results always feel small even though they're actually big and strong and have actually done better job than all these fake insecure roiders.
I dunno how old you are but as a 34 yo dude who been lifting for the last 20 years, people were using gear way before social media, i dont think the ratio changed.
@@yoanbertrand7926 It did change and demographic has expanded as well. Before it were some dedicated bodybuilders, lifters, bouncers and insecure morons. Social media pulled in many young and valuable people who wouldn't do it if they didn't see super jacked guys on daily basis. It has similar effect as super hot girls on social media, magazines, adverts etc. has on women.
Its not just that but also culture around it. I saw a guy on Instagram saying he was working out for 7 years. He had great arms, abs and shoulders but his pecs were super weird and small. My instant thought was that he has weird anatomy but overall its good. Man was i not prepared for that comment section..... EVERYBODY was piling up on him that he was just not working out at all, how crappy his training is etc. Its not just influencers, culture has to change around what a good body is.
People worry about their hair, acne, libido, gyno but what they fail to understand is the difficulties on your organs. Most importantly, the heart.
i feel like organ issues are pretty commonly brought up by a lot of people. It's pretty common knowledge. I'd say gyno is less commonly known about than the added stress on organs.
You can't see the heart.
That’s why you do cardiac scans if you’re going to juicing
The heart is also a muscle, that's why it also grows, with gear use.
13:28
no most important is the brain retardation
Dude on steroids couldn’t catch his breath... his shirt gasp is ironic 😂😂😂😂
To the 17 year old at the beginning comparison is the thief of joy he should be proud of the results he’s gotten so far naturally
It is alarming his mind went immediately to "oh there are guys online my age that are bigger," instead of just taking the compliment 😢
Fkn oath 🙌🏽🔥
Fr bro I'm 23 and just looking to loose weight 😂 but building muscle is something else, for these guys it's like becoming richer and richer and never ending place
Putting fitness side for one second, you are actually a really good interviewer. Your follow up questions get people to open up and explain more without leading them down a path.
11:56 "No i want my health" says the dude with roid rash
He does a great job if not just letting disinformation or vague statements just go by like they’re all valid
Will, I’m a life long natural lifter at 56 years old. You are very wise. Thank you for speaking out. The younger generation needs more influencers like you.
It’s scary how many people even “consider” it. It’s never worth it
The guy saying "alot of the side effects can be mitigated" breathing hella heavy tells me otherwise lol
I was tinking the same thing.
Yooooo I didn't notice lmao@@julinaonYT
Yes, he certainly wasn't after a heavy set or work out. You know, like you typically are in a gym
The dude is working out...
@@julinaonYT kekek
8:45 homosexual tendencies due to steroids? Now I get Dr. Mike's behavior...
😂😂😂😂
I was thinking about that lmao
This is a WILD take and portraying someone's sexuality as being a negative side effect is not it!
@nammond cry abt it 😂
@@susbrody5983 no just completely unresearched and makes the speaker looks uneducated and ignorant. No crying, everyone is grown. Just an advice ☺️
It’s so sad to see people say they would be happy to shorten their lives to look good for a few years. People are worth so much more than how they look.
Social Media
You never tried or looked at the health benefits apparently, change your mind.
yeah dude, we need them to live longer for the sake of capitalism. We don’t care how they look!
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@zolo4600 this entire social media effect to get big via roids is capitalism!
2:00 , those shaking hands 😂
normal if you have just done exercises🤷♂️
Lmao you saw that
Comparison is the thief of joy. Be proud of your progress and don't destroy your life guys.
Orrrrr do what you want, but inform yourself and know the risks.
If you're scared of comparing yourself to others, it means you subconsciously know that you're inferior to them. Comparison and competition is essential in all aspects of life.
@@RashFever26 I agree in part on what you said, but it doesn't mean that if I don't compare my self to others, I'm automatically inferior to them... maybe I'm just focused on me. At the end of the day I live by me and for me, so ok comparing for the sake of doing better, but it doesn't have to become an obsession in a way that I start living by that.
Healthy comparison could be okay, but I think focusing of yourself and who you were yesterday is a better way of comparing yourself with "someone else".
@@GoldenChildBHwhen you do what you want you’ll end up getting certain things you don’t want
@@RashFever26My internal organs are superior to their's. Good luck with that XXXL heart trying to pump blood through an obese amount of muscle.
Bro you’re wild for the dance moves during the sexuality talk with Derek 😂😂😂
Dude seriously 🤣🤣🤣 i saw that and came straight to the comments section
😂😂😂
In the words of my older brother when I asked him about steroids as I grew up: "Just workout hard and don't be a bitch".
Never even looked at steroids after that
Best advice about steroid use ever
plot twist. he was on steroids
amen
@@doyourownresearch7297😂
Easy when you have good genetics lol
The first guy who admitted to roids can barely even breath or talk. DONT DO ROIDS KIDS !
"When i go on Instagram the first thing i see is a jacked dude".
If that's basis behind your decisions in life, get off social media.
@Cheese1111-b1yI am into jacked dudes and not the ladies. There's no other understandable reason to be looking at that stuff.
Fr he wanted to eat that jacked dude the fuc out.
They all look away older than their real age
It's only the first thing he sees on social media because he's searching for that all the time. I've never seen a picture of a jacked dude on my Instagram
That really is the saddest thing i have ever heard somebody say
I feel like depression is also leading a lot of guys towards taking steroids. Lot of depressed guys don't expect to make it to 30, let alone 60, so they say "why the hell not?"
Nothing to do with depression. They are all looking for a fast road to being jacked. The problem is that most of them do not understand how unnatural it looks.
@@Art-is-craftan inferiority complex is definitely linked to depression, I don't see how you can argue otherwise. Feeling insignificant and disillusioned with the world one is born into
@@BigBadJerryRogers
Most users of steroids just want the look and want a quick road to it. Nothing else. Some could be depressed but that is not the majority. Most want the athletic look without the athletics.
@@Art-is-craft it's quite literally been proven that a good majority of men who start taking steroids usually have mental health problems/depression. Why are you trying to deny real statistics and objective facts?? 😂😂
Yup. I've met dudes who say "rather live 50 years as a lion than 80 years as a sheep" and dam when they put it that way..
To that dude who said at 12:33 that steroids will help you minimize risk of injury, it's actually the opposite
If you don't have the self-control to avoid pushing yourself too hard in the gym, something like Primo would probably decrease injury risk by enabling you to recover from the excessive training you were going to do anyway.
@@diablominero steroids weaken your tendons
weak tendons = muscle tears
@@revert5651 I'm no expert but I don't think they weaken your tendons. I think steroids can grow your muscles at such a fast rate that your tendons can't keep up and that's when the injuries start to happen
@@revert5651 training with insufficiently recovered muscles also risks muscle tears. I think the net effect of relatively refined steroids could be beneficial for some people.
@@luigui707 thats what i thought too but no, studies actually say that steroids weaken tendons
The needle bin in the bathroom had me shocked, that’s absolutely wild.
I’m 19 myself and I was close to take steroids not too long ago. I already informed myself about what to take and already looked at studies and even had them in my shopping card at one point. Social media is not so much the problem that it influences me directly, it’s much more the people around me who think you have to be 220 pounds lean and jacked. I’m much more confident taking my shirt off but people saying “you skinny” or “this and that guy is so much bigger and better then you” really hurt when you hear it too often cause I’m really giving my best.
Why am I not on gear now?
It’s because of people like you who do videos like that and because of my ex bf who always complemented me for my physique and also another boi a few days ago who liked how I look and said I’m “hot”. It’s people like you and them that always get me back on track so thank you, really
If you train properly for enough years, even if you look "skinny" for the average gym rats, you would still be way hotter and muscular than at least 80% of males
hey hottie, keep natty and health 😊
No son don't
Stay healthy kiddo (I say as a 35 year old woman)! You're beautiful as you are. Keeping fit without 'roids is SO much hotter. Being Big isn't necessary for being sexy or for being athletic.
Lift safe. Eat healthy. Sleep well. Win :)
It’s insane to me that these kids are juicing. They’re gonna fuck themselves up for life
Yep
Kids are getting their and balls cut off and shouting they are a women.....social pressure?
Well when you have liars like this influencer telling people you can achieve his physique naturally it's no wonder.
Also, the teen kids didn't once say he sees those same really jacked people in person, he just referred to social media. They can't any longer see the difference between real life and the total fakeness of social media. So imagine that goes with they don't think about the consequences at all.
What if you only did 1 heavily controlled cycle? Is your life ruined at that point? Should someone just call it quits because they used steroids once? Should they dig a grave and sit in it until they succumb to the inevitable repercussions of their misguided decisions?
Man, I’m glad this side of information is also being released to the masses. I am a natural competitive bodybuilder in Australia and have been training for over a decade.
The amount of young kids I have come into my gym and asking or enquiring about steroids because of seeing influencers on social media.
Also the train of thought that “It’s healthier to do it this way” bruh…
Thanks Will for making this video ❤
I'm 39. Started TRT within this year. It was not due to a desire for mussel growth, but due to low libido, low energy and tendency to depression. TRT has helped me a lot, and the side effects have been liveable. I am happy I never did it when I was young, but also happy that it is helping me now.
I respect the guys with shittier physiques that didn't lie about their steroid usage, more than the bigger guys that clearly lied about it. And there was quite a few of them.
To be honest I didn't see anyone in this video who was clearly on roids (who denied it) from a physique perspective
@@patmanrick the black guy with a tank top was sus, but else than that most of them checked out imo
@linussorensen00 bro... welcome to African genetics... plenty guys from African heritage who've never ever been to the gym looking better than guys that regularly go! He could be using but he legit most likely isn't and is just built to be a tank.
everyone in this video who said no's physique is 100% attainable naturally
@@NeuroLiftingAnd then those Gargantuan Genitals!!! OMG!!!
Im almost 35 and going to the gym since I was 23. The natty potential is higher then most would think by just being smart about the traininglifestyle and being consistent.
When people say, "I've reached my natty potential," I hear, "I no longer want to make changes to my diet, exercise, or lifestyle." They are nowhere near their actual, physical limits.
Same I've gained 30KG (with a flat stomach but not abs) in 17 years of lifting
Yeah you fail to realize we are talking about western civilization here. Everything from the moment you are born and grow in this culture is all about me. What can I do to get the maximum results with the least amount of work. Who can I back stab to gain for myself? What’s lifted that message more than anything ever before is social media. So no matter what you’re gonna have people who would rather have their 15 mins of fame than to live a humble life.
it just needs 10 years of good training to reach and nowadays people want everything right now
What if you don't reach your natty potential but get to a physique that you really like and feel happy with? I just want to put on 20lbs of muscle or honestly even 15lbs would be great for me.
“You’re not just making a decision for you, you’re making a decision for your future self” awesome quote 👏
😂😂😂
Facts
Social media is the downfall of our society.
No one talks about the side effect of looking 15 years older. These 20 year olds look like they are 35.
And if ur natty you’ll be 35 looking like your 20
@@ronnwar420 word
Exactly that 21 year old at the beginning of the video looks 30 to 35 years old
That's just Americans, they age so ridiculously quick.
Steroids make you look more like a real man. If you don't have a high level without taking anything, using steroids actually helps you look like a man. Women want men, not boys.
8:25 *"They are putting chemicals in bodybuilding and turning the friggins athletes gay!"*
first it was the frogs... now is the men!!!!
😂😂😂😂😂
This
Just want to clear up what dude said in the video.
Steroids aren't turning you gay, you were already gay. The increased libido side effect just pulled you out the closet
This, but unironically.
21 year old trained for 1 year natural, starts doing steroids, "i don't mind taking a bit off my life, rather be strong and get to 70, than 90 and decrepit". Bro if you take for 70 years you're not going to get close to that age, and if not, then you're not trading strength for age, as when you stop, you're not really stronger when your hormones do not help you anymore. It's crazy that so many steroid users rationalize because they imagine they are gonna live for 100 years without, and steroids will only take a couple of "bad" years off in the end of their life, bro that's not how it works, getting a blood clot in the brain at 27, dying from liver or kidney failure at 32, or getting a massive heart attack at 44 is not anything like you imagine now is it? Waking up from a coma at 34 to live the rest of your life as a vegetable with major brain damage is not like this..
Aspirin, water and telmisartan doesn't exist?
They train for 'health'
this is the biggest misconception that exists.
they think that it’ll shave a few bad years off their life. no. it takes away from your healthy years. you’ll age to be miserable faster.
Lol best case scenario, dudes gonna be decrepit at 70 instead
@@JT-yx7vfthese guys don’t know what they’re talking about. They don’t consider these people having different genetics. What are their family’s genetic outliers? Do they have heart conditions in the family? Is there other common issues? People just think “steroids and die”.
Great video, excellent message at the end. Social media is destroying true human happiness which is not dependent on physical appearance. The majority of a human being's life is lived on the inside
1 year natty before gear kid genuinely made me sad. I’m in my 30s, been training for years, already have a wife and kids and STILL any time i think about gear immediately talk myself out of it because i know i can improve my diet and training and still dont want the extra risks.
That said nearly every damn day social media makes me think about it
Wait till 40
so you never get strong
Then get off social media, or create a new account and don't follow or look at that type of shit. It's probably the best thing you can do for both your mental and physical health.
Iam 19 years old and iam also on steroids. But i regret it. But if you once started it you can't stop.
Who said you cant stop @@JA_1337_
i like how they say "have to" like lifting 500 lbs is necessary to sustain life...
Being able to lift 500lbs is a crazy achievement tho. I get why its attractive to some people. But I want kids and a fairly long life so steroids is a no no
Lifting 500lbs isnt, but looking good is. Finding a partner in the current hellscape is near impossible if you dont look good, and the standards have gotten so warped that even being lean with a good amount of muscle isnt cutting it anymore.
@@taylorhillard4868 you sure tho? Tom Holland has a lean physique, not a LOT of muscle but I bet the ladies are loving his physique. So I think that being above average is enough. Have a six pack, a good chest and good legs and you’re good Id say
@@taylorhillard4868 women aren't attracted to 500 kg of muscle...
@@taylorhillard4868 gay men are attracted to 500 kg of muscle, but you would probably find a partner fine even without the muscle
Jeff Nippard's comment on the natural ceiling was super insightful.
too bad he's not natty anymore. he took some steroids in his latest vid
@@NandoFIT-df8ly?…
@@NandoFIT-df8ly No he didn't stop spreading lies. Jeff is currently on a one year journey to see his full natural potential. Watch the video before commenting nonsense.
@@NandoFIT-df8lylol no he didn't he was just talking about steroids, he competes tested in the natural divisions. If you watched his video he talks about why he wouldn't take them and he considered it a long time ago.
I've reached my genetic ceiling once in my lifetime when I was around age 26 after lifting for around 10 years. It is hard to do. As an advanced lifter you have to be really in tune with your body to know when to change things up here and there to keep making small gains over time as it feels like you are navigating your way carefully around plateau after plateau.
But in doing so I got way bigger then I ever thought I could and literally no one believed I was natural lol
Good on you will for being an influencer that’s honest about steroids, and honestly crazy that most of these ppl are thinking about the really insignificant consequences like hair loss and acne but not the life threatening consequences. Having no ambitions of professional bodybuilding and risking your life simply to look better will always be an insane choice for me that people make
That 17 year old is big! And very self aware and reflective of the impact of social media. Very impressive for his age.
I don’t think he’s aware that he’s falling into the trap though. He just said I wanna be like random guys on social media. Probably to get girls or to just appear bigger for his friends. But in all honesty, I don’t think most girls wanna date a guy that looks as big as the rock. He’ll find that out the hard way when he still gets no girls
Almost every teenager today has a negative view on social media and it's impact.
I am pretty sure 90% of young guys fucking hate social media
Did anyone else think the guys saying they are 21 or 22 look like they are in their early 30s?
I'm 36 and look younger than them lol
I did.👌
I was exactly thinking the same thing.
I thought it was just me. lol
Same I'm 36 and I thought they looked super old 😆
The light that burns twice as bright burns half as long
Really like that saying
Well said
If you ride like lightning, you're going to crash like thunder
Moderation is always key.
My nuclear reactor be like
A marble sculptor made their art through hardwork and perseverance. If they can reveal the beauty of a stone with only a hammer and chisel, you can reveal your beauty with just dumbells and barbells.
My wife works at a fertility clinic. At least 50% of the issues men have with fertility are linked to roids.
I'm 70.Took 44 radiation treatments for prostate cancer. Dr. Won't even let me take testostorone supplements. But I still lift weights and want to be swole! I wont quit!! 5 grams creatine everyday, 200 grams of protein everyday. 💪
thats just what she tells you they all railing her
@@dravenaxe6101do u take steroids?
@@dravenaxe6101draven mains are ruthless
I feel like that's almost a Plus.
You can see the growth in Will by his content recently. Great job
“Steroids?”
“Nah, milk”
Real man
breast milk
@@kyledriscollmusic man milk.
dog milk pogchamp
Breast milk is the tits, 60% whey and hgh
Unless you want to go pro, never take steroids, it's just a waste of good health
The video was class... I love how you specifically followed interviewees' reasonings with Derek's words.
This. This video in particular is so entertaining yet still somewhat professional
"Just workout and eat, it's literally that simple" - Love ihat.
It really comes down to working out for health vs. working out for aesthetics. Both can be achieved naturally, the difference is time.
it's that simple FOR SOME people, i responded extremely well to lifting when i was younger, but i saw waaaaaaaaay too many people who didn't respond well to training and i could totally see them getting on steroids just to see SOMETHING happen to their body
@@notimportant3686 I agree that everyone is different, but I also say that everyone needs to find what works for them. I'm 61 and have been working out inconsistently my whole life. Only NOW am I seeing progress because I am being more consistent with minimal workouts and better nutrition. My goal is to be healthy first, the benefit of that is looking great.
I look better now than I ever have. In my younger years I was tempted by steroids because I wasn't willing to put the work into it as much as it required, but never crossed that line. I still think, "Should I? I probably won't live long enough to suffer the side effects, but it could kill me faster".
"Just workout and eat" is great advice to look like Kyriakos Grizzly.
The amount of mental energy needed to spend on food restriction alone is like 90% of bodybuilding.
@@notimportant3686Nah its like that for all people. Were all human beings with potential and limitations. Calories in vs calories out. Move more eat less it really is very simple. Quality of food also matters. Eat better
Don’t be so naive
Comparison is the ultimate thief of joy.
And I have been robbed blind
Preach!
Not if you’re comparing to yourself in the past. When I look at 18 year old me vs 31 year old me I’m happier
I find it insane how most people struggle to be better than each other. I only struggle to be a better version of me.
-Bob Goff
11:55 "I need my kidneys" most valid response
Social media is such a big problem, no matter the community youre in u are always exposed to the best of the best at what you do, making you feel bad about yourself, deleting all of media except obv youtube has been one of the best decisions ive made
The steroid guy wearing the GASP inc shirt looks like he was gasping for air throughout their whole convo lol.
Do you know why that is? I never hear that when side effects are discussed.
Cause will is so handsome @@darrow_andromeda915
@@darrow_andromeda915probably because he's between sets. 😂 come o n, you can't be serious
@@rafmatt1607 my guy, some
Of the strongest power lifters I know don’t breath that hard between sets when I talk to them.
@@rafmatt1607you must be delusional 😂… nobody I’ve ever seen gasping after a set like that! I’ve only seen juice heads do this, it’s the roid breath gasp!
shoutout to the 1 guy at 18min who talked about not wanting to cheapen his achievements. Nothing compares to the confidence, discipline, self-respect, and character that's built from putting in the work yourself and not relying on something else to do it for you.
hit the nail on the head 🎯, it's why I've never considered taking steroids, A) because of the potential health issues B) because I'd rather work hard at something and know I earnt it rather than taking the easy route, I would never be satisfied doing that
yeah, if all else fails my pride and stubbornness of wanting to achieve everything myself would never let me touch steroids id rather be less muscular and know I did it myself
Amen
Nice one. Recently discovered your channel through your colab with magnus and really admire how you are using your platform to curiously and kindly investigate challenging issues.
14:08 when you’re 25 you might think living to 70 is “good enough”…I’m 62 and living to 70 is NOT good enough 🤦🏼♀️
Absolute legend with this video mate.
The amount of people you've swayed into not doing PEDs with this thought provoking social analysis is life-changing, as I'd say the majority of people considering likely are impulsive in nature and don't really think about/probably ignore the long-term/cons. Your message at the end was chef's kiss.
taking test just to look like an average lifter is wild
Nothing wrong with just test so its not wild at all , now taking all kinds of compounds just to look like an average lifter is wild
@@conormayweather5474 cope 🤡
No it is.. it is wild@@conormayweather5474
@@conormayweather5474 yes there is definitely something wrong with taking test wtf. Where are you hearing this from. If you take test from a young enough age(before 30 at least) your balls will shrivel up and your body will stop telling the testes glands to produce testostorone naturally. Some people may have to take external testostorone for their entire lives and struggle with erectile dysfunction. Dont fucking take test unless your doctor says you need it.
@@conormayweather5474exogenous test is just as bad as any other steroid. Youre still gonna experience side effects while on it and hormone deficiencies when you get off of it
21:25 the 18 year old looking at the 19 year old like "bro you know damn well what youre taking" 😂
"when I go onto social media" that's the problem right there
No. Its not the problem. The way they talk about steroids and social media. Is social medias fault. They blame it all on social media. Dont be influenced- that simple.
The documentary-style content hes pumping out lately is so good
Im loving all the collaboration in the fitness youtube space these days
great Video man, good to see you educating people honestly. i would say 95% of male gym goers at least consider it, but videos like this pound home the point that its not worth it. Guy near the end who made a great point also, if you're not competing, why wold you even put yourself through that .
I'm so glad Will said "don't do it" to that dude! More people with status need to get that message out there!!!❤
Thank you for creating such an educational video and I loved the care you have for gym-goers to be mindful of their health. All respect and regards from Scotland
This is extremely sad. The same as so many young women feeling the need to get BBLs, one of the most dangerous surgeries there is.
What is BBLs?
@@sandboy5880Brazilian butt lifts
@@sandboy5880it’s the surgery to make your butt bigger
15:53 the little syringe in his shoulder😂